WEBVTT - Tesla Slides on Downgrades, Meta Rises, Warner Bros to Split

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, The.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tim Stinibeck along with Carol Masser. Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at some stocks on the move today. With us

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<v Speaker 1>is Bloomberg News Equities reporter Alexandra Semenova. Alex what's on

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<v Speaker 1>your radar today?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, guys, Always great to be on with you. We

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<v Speaker 3>got to, of course, start with Tesla. We're all watching

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<v Speaker 3>that stock after the very public blow up between CEO

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk and President Donald Trump last week. It's actually

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<v Speaker 3>up a little bit today. This comes even as it

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<v Speaker 3>got to downgrades from firms on Wall Street that's Baird

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<v Speaker 3>and Argust Research. Of course, investors have been worried about

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<v Speaker 3>the reputational damage that this political fallout has done for

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<v Speaker 3>the company, and they were also worried about the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that it might not deliver on its Robotaxi promises. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>this is coming at a very difficult time for Tesla.

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<v Speaker 3>Shares are down about twenty seven percent in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>making it the weakest performer of the so called Magnificent

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<v Speaker 3>seven stocks, and they had, of course rallied after the

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<v Speaker 3>election and then peaked in December, and obviously it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a really difficult time for the company. Elon Musk had

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<v Speaker 3>focused so much on his political endeavors in the White

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<v Speaker 3>House and then had this very public fallout. The stock

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<v Speaker 3>fell fourteen percent on Thursday, was its worst day since

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, and obviously now Wall Street is just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to assess the long term damage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What I find notable about this oftentimes, Alex, when

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<v Speaker 1>you see downgrades or double down grades such as this,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see the stock react accordingly. Seems like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this was baked into the stock, given that shares

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<v Speaker 1>fell what close to fifteen percent just last week, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like in this case, the analysts are catching up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you know, analyst downgrades are a contrarian indicator to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously when we saw the kind of sell off

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<v Speaker 3>that we did, there are still people who are big

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<v Speaker 3>believers in this company and who saw it as an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to buy in. One of my sources, Dave Maza,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the CEO of Roundhill Investments, described it really well.

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<v Speaker 3>Companies like Tesla. They don't trade on fundamentals obviously, they

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<v Speaker 3>trade on something he called a dream premium, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's kind of what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, safe to say, one of the big dream but

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<v Speaker 4>maybe also reality Premiums is all things with AI, and

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<v Speaker 4>that leads us to Meta. You are watching Meta today

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<v Speaker 4>and it definitely has an AI connection here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got to talk about this incredible scoop by

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<v Speaker 3>our Bloomberg reporters here. Meta is in talks to make

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<v Speaker 3>a multi billion dollar deal with startup scale Ai. It

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<v Speaker 3>could exceed ten billion dollars in value. This is, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>according to sources familiar with the discussions who chose not

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<v Speaker 3>to be identified due to their proximity to the deal,

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<v Speaker 3>and basically, scale Ai provides data labeling services. It helps

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<v Speaker 3>companies train their machine learning model, so really really big

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<v Speaker 3>investment here for Meta. It also works with customers like

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft and open A. The stock is actually flat today,

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<v Speaker 3>not not big moves across the equity market, so not

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<v Speaker 3>reacting very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is This is a fascinating write up by

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<v Speaker 1>our team including Seth Figgerman and Rachel Metz. Twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>year old AI executive Alexander Wong. He went to Capitol

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<v Speaker 1>Hill to tell policymakers what they needed to do maintain

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<v Speaker 1>US dominance, and now metas set to throw Carol billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars at this startup. It's pretty remarkable to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they talk about, you know, how they've evolved their

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<v Speaker 4>business increasingly relying on high paid contractors with graduate degrees

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<v Speaker 4>to improve AI systems, and has deepened its relationship with

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<v Speaker 4>the US government through defense deals. So Alex giving us

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<v Speaker 4>some context as well. But it's interesting to see a

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<v Speaker 4>very established company like Meta. But the AI grab it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty intense. And when we're talking about maybe as much

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<v Speaker 4>as ten billion dollars, that's some serious money. Let's get

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<v Speaker 4>to I think it's the number one gainer. It has

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<v Speaker 4>been at points during the day in the S and

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<v Speaker 4>P five hundred, the NASDAQ one hundred, Warner Brothers, Discovery,

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<v Speaker 4>you're watching that one as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex, Yeah, this was some interesting news today. It is

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<v Speaker 3>actually splitting into two independent companies, Global Networks and Streaming

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<v Speaker 3>and Studios. Global Networks will include entertainment, sports, and cable

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<v Speaker 3>television brands such as CNN, TNT, and TBS, and it'll

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<v Speaker 3>hold a twenty percent stake in streaming and studios, and

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<v Speaker 3>the separation is actually expected to be completed by mid

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six, allowing each company to pursue its own

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<v Speaker 3>investment deals and kind of operate as separate entities. And

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<v Speaker 3>this was meant to unshackle, you know, it's fast growing

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<v Speaker 3>streaming business from the legacy cable networks that perhaps aren't

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<v Speaker 3>doing as well. Obviously, there's this big there's been this

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<v Speaker 3>big move into streaming services while cable news isn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>as popular anymore and Lust we're generally positive on this deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Benchmark said it was an aggressive buyer on this news.

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<v Speaker 3>Firms like Keeping Capital Markets and Vital Knowledge also said

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<v Speaker 3>it was positive, but the details of the deal aren't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily clear yet. So that's something to watch for here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm old enough. Remember when bigger was

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<v Speaker 1>better just a few years ago, and then now you

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<v Speaker 1>have a company such as Comcasts spinning off its media

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<v Speaker 1>divisions into a couple different companies and figuring out what

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to look like, Alex, I mean, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And we heard Paul Sweeney talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>earlier on Bloomberg Intelligence. At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know what necessarily is going to happen when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to these stocks or the businesses, but a

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<v Speaker 1>sure thing is that the bankers are having a payday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they searched youss such as this, they certainly are,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And it's also been pretty incredible to see

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<v Speaker 3>these massive companies that brought us these very cable networks

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<v Speaker 3>now offer raying into streaming services, and then consumers are

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<v Speaker 3>all kind of getting those packaged up once again. So

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an interesting shift here.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm