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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Ertoris

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios

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Speaker 2: here at eleven pm Eastern on the twenty seventh. We're

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Speaker 2: taking it up till two am. A lot to get

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Speaker 2: to two NFL games to Sega. Got you most of

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Speaker 2: the details just a second ago, and we obviously we

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Speaker 2: got a preview the college football playoff quarterfinals before we

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Speaker 2: get out of here. J mart Hello, I hope you

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Speaker 2: had a great Christmas. Did Santa bring your little girls

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Speaker 2: everything that they were hoping for? I hope you had

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Speaker 2: a great holiday the last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was solid. It was good and health Center

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Speaker 3: for you everything that you wanted.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure everyone asked about the kids. Did

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin get what he wanted from Santa?

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Speaker 3: There was technically only one thing that I asked for

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Speaker 3: and I did indeed get that. So I was with things.

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Speaker 3: But look, man, this was all about just watching watching

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Speaker 3: them and watching you know, the She'll be two in March,

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Speaker 3: but you know started she like a meat. We started

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Speaker 3: opening gifts, which is very interesting, Like I actually almost

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Speaker 3: missed it. I was trying to make coffee for my wife,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden I hear rustling and the

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Speaker 3: not even two year old has gone to the tree

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Speaker 3: and just started unwrapping things. And usually that's not how

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Speaker 3: that works. Usually have to help them and all this,

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Speaker 3: and she was just ripping stuff open. She's a bit bright,

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Speaker 3: like she's she's quick on the draw. She's kind of

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Speaker 3: dangerous in that regard. But it was an absolute blast,

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Speaker 3: just a good time and good time of family, good food.

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Speaker 3: You know. The football kind of stunk, but that's all right.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can't you can't have them all. At

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Speaker 3: least basketball is pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Basketball was good. Spurs beat the thunder.

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Speaker 3: Football I need to talk about that, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, apparently JJ Reddick has headed up to here

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Speaker 2: with Lebron James, even though he didn't call him out

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Speaker 2: by name. And the football did stink, but they're repercussions.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Lions in half a second.

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Speaker 2: But glad to hear you had a great holiday. It's

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Speaker 2: funny you said you only asked for one thing. So

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Speaker 2: I am officially an old man because my wife for

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Speaker 2: weeks asked me what I wanted, and I swear this

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Speaker 2: is the only thing that I asked for. I like to,

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Speaker 2: you know, especially during the summertime, I wear you know,

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Speaker 2: little golf shirts, button down shirts, whatever. We do not

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Speaker 2: have an ironing board, and I said, literally, could we

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Speaker 2: have an iron And my wife's like, oh, just iron

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Speaker 2: it on the kitchen table. It comes out the same.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it doesn't come out the same as a

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Speaker 2: real ironing board. And I literally I said, all I

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Speaker 2: want is literally I want is an I board. I

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Speaker 2: swear in my life, I asked for an ironing board

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Speaker 2: because I said, I'm so tired of these wrinkled shirts

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Speaker 2: that are half wrinkled and I'm doing a wrinkle free

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Speaker 2: well I got a couple, not enough, by the way,

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Speaker 2: the shirt I'm wearing actually is a little bit wrinkled

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Speaker 2: right now because I have not broken out the ironing board.

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Speaker 2: But that was I swear that was the only thing

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Speaker 2: I asked for. Now, you know, you know, ends and

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Speaker 2: family got me a couple of gift cards and stuff,

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Speaker 2: But that when you said you only asked for one thing,

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Speaker 2: it cracked me up because that was me and I'm

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Speaker 2: very much the type of person. I'm like you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm very blessed, like I have what I need. I

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I'm not somebody that asked for much.

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Speaker 2: So when I asked for something, it's like, no, it's

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Speaker 2: something I really want and I probably won't get on

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Speaker 2: my own. So Santa, I won't say he left the

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Speaker 2: ironing board under the tree. Amazon actually was the one

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Speaker 2: who delivered my ironing board, not Santa, and I got

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Speaker 2: it right around New Year.

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Speaker 3: And well, look if you asked for a Yukon.

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Speaker 2: Bowl win, oh no, for our first ten win season

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Speaker 2: in school history. Yeah, that was tough. By the way, random,

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Speaker 2: leave the show before we get Okay, So I woke

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Speaker 2: so I looked at the schedule today. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that Notre Dame opting out of their bowl game isn't lame.

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Speaker 2: It is, but I also looked at the schedule today

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Speaker 2: you know, I still wish Notre Dame had played a

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Speaker 2: happened differently. But I also kind of understand Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: saying we won ten straight to end of the year,

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Speaker 2: We're not going to be part of some made for

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Speaker 2: don't know how to even fully explain it.

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Speaker 3: But I'll say this, I mean, if you just to

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Speaker 3: make your argument stronger, even if I I don't fully

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Speaker 3: Dame's probably a little salty at ESPN because it felt

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Speaker 3: so why are we gonna do something to benefit ESPN

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Speaker 3: in a game that we don't care about. When ESPN

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Speaker 3: kind of threw shade on us, of course, yeah, then

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Speaker 3: they started to back up the whole like, you know,

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, they championed Alabama maybe harder

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Speaker 3: than anybody else. Sure, and I think there's there's that

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Speaker 3: may have actually left them a bit salty on top

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Speaker 2: No doubt, And I want to get some other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Two NFL games are basically final at this point, they

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Speaker 2: are officially final. But yeah, no, I listen the way

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Speaker 2: things broke and we did the whole playoff thing last

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Speaker 2: you know, it was an unfortunate circumstance where there had

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Speaker 2: to be two G five teams. We wish that Miami

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Speaker 2: and if they did, the Notre Dame gets in. But

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Speaker 2: I do think there is something too. You know, you guys,

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Speaker 2: had us at whatever it was, tenth or eleventh going

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Speaker 2: will say this too. Like again, I'm not advocating teams

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Speaker 2: just say we finished with ten straight wins. What could

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Speaker 2: have been where if they go to the Pop Tarts

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Speaker 2: and they lose the game, then it's an off season

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Speaker 2: of you know, we told you Notre Dame didn't belong

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Speaker 2: blub blah bush. So anyway, we don't have to talk

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Speaker 2: hypotheticals with Notre Dame. But I did see the schedule

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Speaker 2: and it was clear for because I will say this, Jamar,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's like that was the game

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Speaker 2: that ESPN was trying to get Notre Dame in BYU

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Speaker 2: versus Notre Dame in this Pop Tarts Bowl that eventually

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Speaker 2: was won by BYU. Notre Dame in BYU were the

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Speaker 2: last two teams left, first two teams left out of

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Speaker 2: the college football playoffs. So I'm just saying it's still lame.

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Speaker 2: I wish they had played some bowl games somewhere, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's to the detriment of their program. The

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Speaker 2: the reps whatever. I don't know if there's any more

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Speaker 2: happened today in the rest of the.

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Speaker 3: World sports, Yeah, I mean not really. I mean I

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Speaker 3: agree with what you're saying. Generally, I will say this,

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Speaker 3: at least the Pop Tarts Bowl was pretty good. It

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Speaker 3: was pretty entertaining game, like Georgia Tech led it most

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got a pretty good finish out of that.

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Speaker 3: Look like both teams actually wanted to win that game.

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Speaker 3: That was nice. I mean, you know, those are two

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Speaker 3: get a pretty good matchup. And I'm just gonna be real.

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Speaker 3: I was excited about Bowl season, but I just haven't

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know what it is. I understandably,

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Speaker 2: This, no doubt. And I'll wrap on this. The games

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Speaker 2: do get better because I you know, I know this

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Speaker 2: and I still do in some capacities during the holidays, Oh,

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Speaker 2: all these bowl games are meaningless. And then you get

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Speaker 2: gonna have some intriguing games into New Year's Day as well,

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Speaker 2: and then obviously the college football playoffs. So anyway, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what. We got another two and a half

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Speaker 2: hours to talk college football, and we will be previewing

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Speaker 2: the four quarterfinals in a little bit. Let's switch gears

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Speaker 2: just very quickly to the NFL games. You know, listen,

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Speaker 2: it's nobody's fault. Well, some of these games are pretty

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Speaker 2: tough to watch. The game that just went final was

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Speaker 2: noteworthy for the reason that Steve Disager just told you.

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Speaker 2: It was the Green Bay Packers and the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore wins forty one to twenty four. No Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Baltimore wins forty one to twenty four. To keep their

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Speaker 2: and I believe have Pittsburgh lose as well tomorrow for

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Speaker 2: them to win the AFC North. They cannot at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they would need Pittsburgh to lose to Cleveland tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: then Baltimore would have to beat them next week. But

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Speaker 2: they are still technically alive for the AFC North. They

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Speaker 2: cannot win a wild card green Bay. They officially, frankly,

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, hand the NFC North

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Speaker 2: to the Chicago Bears. Chicago beat Green Bay in this

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Speaker 2: time slot last week. Chicago plays on Sunday Night, but

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Speaker 2: they clinched the NFC North title with a Green Bay

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Speaker 2: loss tonight. Again. Baltimore forty one, Green Bay twenty four.

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Speaker 2: No Lamar Jackson, no Jordan Love. Don't know if there's

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Speaker 2: a any deep dive thoughts for you, j Mart, but

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Speaker 2: figure will touch on this rule.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, man, Milik Willis played really well. He

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Speaker 3: got hurt late, but he's he has filled in Averan Lee.

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Speaker 3: He's proven to be a really good backup. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: you look at his stat line, Jordan Love wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: played that much better than he did. Sure in this game.

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Speaker 3: This was the Derrick Henry game, And yes I was

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Speaker 3: playing against Derrick Henry in my third place fantasy game today.

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Speaker 3: He put up forty five points. That puts me behind

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Speaker 3: an eight ball going into tomorrow. But that's all right,

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Speaker 3: that's the way it goes. Derek's done this before. When

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know we can. We'll have plenty of

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Speaker 3: They're eleven and five, but they're the most nondescript eleven

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Speaker 2: Well, they'll have to open the playoffs on the road.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. The Houston Texans have clinched a playoff spot.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite Christmas songs. By the way, just

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Speaker 2: the Snoop Dogg Bawl. Is that what we're calling it

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Speaker 2: the excitement, Oh yeah, Tyler Huntley, can you feel the enthusiasm? Baby?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's very easy to go there right now because

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Speaker 3: But in terms of the Lamar thing, I'll tell you

433
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Speaker 3: what did raise my eyebrows. You may think this is insane,

434
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Speaker 3: but when I saw this, I immediately had a reaction.

435
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: John Harball was asked if there was a problem between

436
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Speaker 3: in the relationship between he and Lamar, and he said,

437
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: our relationship is a plus. And my reaction to that

438
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Speaker 3: when I saw the quote was, oh, they're not doing

439
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: well because no one says that sure, Like I don't

440
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 3: know what John harp like. Maybe it is something John

441
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 3: Harball says, But when you say our relationship is a plus,

442
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: that's that seems like you're telling on yourself, like you're

443
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: trying to overstate it's not an a plus. Very few

444
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: relationships are going to be a plus when your team

445
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 3: is barely five hundred and was supposed to do all this,

446
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 3: and maybe you're even on the hot seat now and

447
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 3: he has to some of the fans and all of

448
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Speaker 3: these kinds of things. When he said it was a plus,

449
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: I immediately said, oh, there, this is this right here

450
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: is phony like this. I don't buy this at all

451
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Speaker 3: because the way this was said, it was exaggerated and

452
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: said in such a fake way. Like I just I've

453
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: never heard anybody say our relationship is a plus. And

454
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Speaker 3: if you do say that, I feel like your relationship

455
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: is more like C minus at best. So the report

456
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 3: from the Baltimore Son, you know, I mean, you can

457
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: describe that to a lot of things. There could be

458
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 3: some leaks. There could be some people that are right

459
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: now trying to get to Lamar in a different way subtly,

460
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: maybe break that facade a little bit. There's something wrong,

461
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: but we've known there's something wrong in Baltimore all year.

462
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: And whether or not it's Lamar, or whether or not

463
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Speaker 3: there's something going on in the relationship with the head

464
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Speaker 3: coach and the quarterback and all this kind of stuff,

465
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Speaker 3: it's just not what it was supposed to be this year.

466
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Speaker 3: And when that happens, finger pointing begins. And you know,

467
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: Lamar has kind of skated at times when it comes

468
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Speaker 3: to accountability, and not that he hasn't held himself accountable,

469
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Speaker 3: but a lot of people have kind of blamed others,

470
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Speaker 3: but now a lot more has fallen on him. So

471
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Speaker 3: maybe the media is kind of towing that line a

472
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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just say reading all this, it did feel

474
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Speaker 2: to me like there was somebody in the that is

475
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Speaker 2: either trying to get through to Lamar or trying to

476
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Speaker 2: protect themselves or whatever. I don't I don't get the

477
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Speaker 2: sense that it was John Horball personally. Really quickly. Let

478
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Speaker 2: me ask you this. You know, there's a little of

479
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Speaker 2: the has the John Harball thing run its course? This

480
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Speaker 2: is year crazy. If I just counted correctly, you're eighteen

481
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Speaker 2: for John Harbaugh, and seems like.

482
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Speaker 3: He has not been there that long. But yeah, he's

483
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: been there forever.

484
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Speaker 2: Eight was the first year, So year sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

485
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Speaker 2: somewhere in there. It's been over a decade and a half. Obviously,

486
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl, now well over a decade. It

487
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: is worth noting they did win the division each of

488
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Speaker 2: the last two years, have made the playoffs each of

489
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Speaker 2: the last three, and aren't technically eliminated. I don't feel

490
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Speaker 2: like it's like it's time for a fresh voice. Like,

491
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Speaker 2: like I've been very vocal about how I do kind

492
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Speaker 2: of feel like Sean McDermott, you're on the clock if

493
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Speaker 2: you don't get it done this year. There needs to

494
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Speaker 2: be a new voice in that locker room. I don't

495
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Speaker 2: know that I feel that way about Ball more, but

496
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: it has at least been a conversation. Do you have

497
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Speaker 2: any inkling that that's how you feel or anybody else

498
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Speaker 2: feels in Baltimore.

499
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Speaker 3: I do think that it's probably an emerging sentiment. I

500
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: think that the difference between Seu McDermott and John Harbaugh

501
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: is that Harball has won a Super Bowl as a coach. Sure,

502
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: I think that's really it. Like if he had not,

503
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Speaker 3: if he didn't have that, if you didn't recognize him

504
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 3: as a super Bowl winning coach, I think he would

505
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: have the exact same critique. But because he's actually cashed

506
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: one of these in in the past, I think that

507
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,239
Speaker 3: you're kind of seen differently at that point, because I

508
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: do think that he does deserve some of this, Like

509
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he has a two time MVP at quarterback,

510
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Speaker 3: and you know, they really haven't sniffed an opportunity at

511
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: a super Bowl during this whole run and if we're

512
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: talking about well, you know, he's starting to get older

513
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: now and you know, the athleticism might not be there anymore.

514
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: Isn't taking care of himself. It's like, is it possible

515
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: that this group is out actually going to not win?

516
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 3: And at that point, I think a lot of that

517
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: is gonna fall on John Harball.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be curious, you know, I do think and

519
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: I you know, it's weird. I'll say this, and I

520
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: don't know if this is if this will sound like

521
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: it makes sense. I think a little bit of what

522
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: like I could see next year kind of being a

523
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: make or break here. Lamar Jackson will be going and

524
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 2: he'll be turning twenty nine in January of the you know,

525
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: so in about a month less than a month from now,

526
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: he'll be twenty nine. So you know, listen for the

527
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: way he plays, you know, with the athleticism that he has.

528
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: I do think, you know, you're probably he's gonna hit

529
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, the tail end to the end of his

530
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: prime earlier than most. But I'll say this, I do

531
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Speaker 2: kind of think like part of how they will be

532
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: judged is what the Bills do this this playoffs is

533
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: that crazy like so, and I'll frame it for the audience.

534
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: I think everybody gets it. But the Chiefs, you know,

535
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 2: they're they're made men at this point. We know what

536
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: they've done in the Mahomes eerra and obviously they're probably

537
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: not going to be a factor next year either. But

538
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: it's like, if Josh Allen, your other contemporary at minimum

539
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: makes the Super Bowl, and if he wins it and

540
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: in this wide open season, I do think it puts

541
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more pressure on them next year. Now,

542
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: if Josh Allen just goes into the playoffs and they

543
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: lose in round one, the Bills losing round one, then

544
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's just that cluster of Joe Burrow,

545
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: justin Herbert, all these guys that don't and haven't won

546
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: at the highest level. But I do think there's something

547
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: with the Bills, like if they were to make a run,

548
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: I would think it would put a little bit more

549
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: of a spotlight on the Ravens John Harbaugh and Lamar

550
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: Jackson going into the twenty twenty sixth season.

551
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Speaker 3: Look, so there's some weird analogy for two guys to

552
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Speaker 3: go here. But I was just thinking about this like

553
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: there's the group of women and you don't want to

554
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: be the last one get married. To get married, sure

555
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: and somebody is. And so if the Bills go win

556
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 3: the super Bowl this year, that whole grouping of teams

557
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: to haven't made a Super Bowl changes, Like Burrow has

558
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: been there, We already know what Mahomes is all of

559
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: a sudden, Like the Ravens are kind of just like, man,

560
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: is anybody ever going to marry that person? Like? What

561
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: is wrong there? Like I do think there's a difference

562
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: because I think that they are kind of the two

563
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: bridesmaids everyone is expecting to get married year after year.

564
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: It's Baltimore or Buffalo. It has to be one of them,

565
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: which one has the most pressure on them. The worst

566
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Speaker 3: case scenario for the Ravens is the Bills go win

567
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl this year while they're falling apart like that.

568
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: That is a bad reality because the optics of that

569
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Speaker 3: and how it's going to be discussed and seen fair

570
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: or not is going to be really difficult for them

571
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: to take.

572
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens sort of on the clock. Detroit Lions feels

573
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: like kind of the same. We will discuss them next

574
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: before we do the let's get it over the news desk,

575
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Speaker 2: Steve Sager, what's trending?

576
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Speaker 7: Hello, and Merry Christmas to you, and I consider our

577
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Speaker 7: relationship in a plus.

578
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for the record, Oh lord.

579
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Speaker 7: By the way, John Harbaugh has been around so long.

580
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 7: Last Sunday night, when they gave up two fourth quarter

581
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 7: touchdowns lost to the Patriots. It meant that Harbaugh, in

582
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Speaker 7: his career, lost for the twentieth time after leading by

583
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Speaker 7: double digits in a second half regular season in playoffs,

584
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Speaker 7: more than any other coach in the last thirty plus years,

585
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 7: and eight of those late losses have come in the

586
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Speaker 7: last four seasons.

587
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: To Taga, real quick. I didn't mean to cut you off,

588
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: go ahead, as I always do. What was the reaction

589
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: in the stadium to that fourth down play? And it

590
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: was bad on TV? Even you obviously didn't hear the

591
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: game broadcast, but Kurt Warner was like, come on, man, like, yeah,

592
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Speaker 2: it was that yeah, okay, God that I will add

593
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: though it was you know, it was such a great

594
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: Charger crowd today. It was so loud.

595
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Speaker 7: There was one firefighter who works all the games as

596
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 7: I don't remember it being this loud here.

597
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: And it was.

598
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 7: It was don't do that.

599
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: It is sorry.

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Speaker 7: It has it has been over the last well basically

601
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 7: justin Herbert's career, the last five six years. They have

602
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 7: clearly developed a fan base in LA. I hope so

603
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 7: that I and a lot of others didn't expect to

604
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 7: happen this quickly, quite frankly, because if you've ever lived

605
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 7: in LA you know there are twelve to fourteen professional teams,

606
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 7: and it's just you know, there's Lakers and Dodgers and

607
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 7: everybody else is fighting for scraps.

608
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: And a lot of transplants that have absolutely in the

609
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: NFL's well.

610
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Speaker 7: I mean, look at my co workers here in this building.

611
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 7: We've got a die hard Bears fan, die hard Jets fan,

612
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 7: die hard Broncos fan who's never lived in Denver yet.

613
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 7: And I'm not even talking about you.

614
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Speaker 3: There's another I know. It's just I know what you're.

615
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: Talking about exactly, and on it.

616
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Speaker 7: One guy, when the Rams first move, he just, you know,

617
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: expansion Carolina. I'll get in on the ground for he's

618
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 7: a die hard Carolina fan. And people like this exist

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Speaker 7: all over Los Angeles. So when the NFL goes a

620
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Speaker 7: full generation without having a team here, your point cannot

621
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Speaker 7: be more salient. It's it means that when the Cowboys visit,

622
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Speaker 7: or the Bears or the Packers or whatever they're the visitors,

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Speaker 7: it's just going to be full of those fans. And

624
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 7: it doesn't mean that, you know, when the Eagles had

625
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 7: fans a couple of weeks ago. It doesn't mean people

626
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 7: are traveling three thousand miles to see the game in

627
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Speaker 7: Los Angeles. It means there are Eagles fans that live

628
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Speaker 7: out here, and lots of them. Baltimore won on the road,

629
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Speaker 7: Houston won on the road in the NFL Saturday schedule.

630
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Speaker 7: How about this from Next Gen stats is Derrick Henry

631
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Speaker 7: helped him to the win at Green Bay tonight forty

632
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Speaker 7: one to twenty four. Dereck Henry had one hundred yards

633
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Speaker 7: rushing inside the tackles and another one hundred yards rushing

634
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Speaker 7: outside the tackles. To that, all told, thirty six carries,

635
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 7: two hundred and sixteen yards and four touchdowns. By the way,

636
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 7: no other player in the Next Gen era of the

637
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 7: last decade has done both of those things in the

638
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Speaker 7: same game. Derrick Henry has done it four different games

639
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 7: in the last decade. So with the Packers losing at home.

640
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 7: The Bears clinched the NFC North title. Houston won a

641
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 7: LA twenty to sixteen Texans clinched a playoff spot. The

642
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 7: LA loss clinched the AFC West for Denver, which still

643
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 7: has a chance for the one seed. I mentioned how

644
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 7: great the crowd was. That was one of the questions

645
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 7: to Justin Herbert and the press conference afterwards, and he

646
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 7: apologized for not giving the crowd more. They were so

647
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 7: ready to explode constantly and for three hours, and the

648
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 7: team just laid an egg. There's no other way to

649
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Speaker 7: put it. I mean, the only well, first off, there

650
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Speaker 7: weren't a pile of injuries on top of that, so

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Speaker 7: I guess that's a good thing. And the only other

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Speaker 7: good thing is that it wasn't the last game of

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Speaker 7: the year, because if they went onto the offseason losing

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Speaker 7: this way, that would be a bit crushing to take

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Speaker 7: for them. Twenty sixteen Houston wins. Justin Herbert was sacked

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Speaker 7: five times. Houston got up to the very early fourteen

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Speaker 7: nothing lead. In fact, their first eleven plays they had

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Speaker 7: five first downs. Chargers in their last seven matchups with

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Speaker 7: Houston two and five. Justin Herbert's been sacked over fifty

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Speaker 7: times this year. He's been hit more than any other

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Speaker 7: quarterback in the league. He's been pressured more than any

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Speaker 7: other quarterback in the league, over two hundred and fifty pressures.

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Speaker 7: The makeshift offensive line they've had to work with, I

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Speaker 7: wouldn't want to be Justin Herbert even if I had

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Speaker 7: his talent. They started a guy at left tackle today

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Speaker 7: who's not started at that position in three years in

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Speaker 7: the NFL, and by the time Herbert was hit for

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Speaker 7: the fifth time, they pulled him, a starting tackle was

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Speaker 7: benched for the rest of the game. It was bad

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Speaker 7: and the Charger defense took forever to get their first

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Speaker 7: quarterback hit. The offense their first nine drives, only six

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Speaker 7: first downs. They were down seventeen to three in the

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Speaker 7: third twenty to sixteen. Houston a winner. Rams wide receiver

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Speaker 7: DeVante Adams doubtful for Monday night with a bad hamstring.

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Speaker 7: Rams guard Kevin Dotson out with an ankle injury. There

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Speaker 7: is a late night bowl game, Texas Bowl in Houston

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Speaker 7: has twenty first ranked Houston tied with LSU twenty one

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Speaker 7: twenty one in the third quarter victories for BYU in Virginia,

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Speaker 7: North Texas ranked twenty fifth won the New Mexico Bowl

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Speaker 7: forty nine forty seven over San Diego State. College football

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Speaker 7: victories for East Carolina and Penn State for Army and

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Speaker 7: Fresno State, NHL Tampa Bay and Carolina with wins, and

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Speaker 7: in the NBA New York's Carl Anthony Towns thirty six points,

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Speaker 7: next one at Atlanta one twenty eight, one twenty five

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Speaker 7: and guys. On this Christmas weekend, of course, we saw

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Speaker 7: a lot of white with the uniforms on Christmas. The

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Speaker 7: Vikings with the all white of the first non purple

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Speaker 7: helmet in their franchise history. Broncos were all white, even

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Speaker 7: the helmet. We had the Dallas white helmets.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 7: This Christmas weekend Sunday, Buffalo is wearing the red jerseys

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Speaker 7: forty nine Ers Sunday Night Red throwback jerseys. Monday Night

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Speaker 7: in Atlanta, Falcons throwback red helmets.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Saga, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Ara Tours Jacent Barn broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. As mentioned Baltimore

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Speaker 2: Ravens Organization, maybe at a tipping point, feels the same

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Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions after a Christmas Day Tobacca. We'll

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Speaker 2: discuss that next. Their future and where do they go

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Speaker 2: from here? Fox Sports Radio dor.

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Speaker 1: Listening, no.

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Speaker 2: Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Another one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite Christmas songs.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard this in my life.

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Speaker 2: I think Mary just recorded it in the back. This

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Speaker 2: is you, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: Mary?

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Speaker 3: Okay family either Griffin or Okay?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Mary just furiously googling pop Tarts song.

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Speaker 2: I actually did. Yes, I believe it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I hear the Peter Griffin and it's bringing a smile

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Speaker 2: to my face. No more pop No more Pop Tarts

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Speaker 2: Bowl breakdowns. We already did that BYU gets to win

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Speaker 2: over Georgia Tech in that game. Uh you know, they

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Speaker 2: might be head of the Pop Tarts Bowl next year

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Speaker 2: because they're not headed to the NFL playoffs. Oh Detroit Lyons. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was a bad segue, not very clever, but third

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Speaker 2: straight loss on Christmas Day twenty three to ten is

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Speaker 2: the final margin of victory. Max Brosmer with the victory

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Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Vikings. After completing nine of sixteen passes.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings go three of thirteen on third down, finished

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Speaker 2: with one hundred and sixty one yards of total offense

724
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Speaker 2: and still manage to get the win over the Detroit Lions,

725
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Speaker 2: who have officially been eliminated from the playoffs. J Mart

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Speaker 2: I actually have a pretty lukewarm Lions take. I'll get

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Speaker 2: to in a second, but I want to hear your

728
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: thoughts on that game and the Lions season overall.

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Speaker 3: First all I'm going to say is you know where

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Speaker 3: I stand on the concept of windows, sure of championship windows.

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Speaker 3: I've said this for years on this show. This is

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Speaker 3: another example of it. It doesn't mean that they can't

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Speaker 3: then win next year or anything else, but this idea

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Speaker 3: that all, well, they've got four years to win, they're

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Speaker 3: going to be back. It's just ridiculous. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: the only one that says this. I think even Dan

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Speaker 3: Patrick said this a couple of weeks ago. But like

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Speaker 3: the idea that you're just going to get back, there

739
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: is a graveyard of teams that were supposed to to

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Speaker 3: get back that never got back. It's very hard to

741
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Speaker 3: win and year after year. I think it's forty percent

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Speaker 3: of the playoff team's turnover on average in the NFL

743
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Speaker 3: from year to year, So there are teams that are

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Speaker 3: on the doorstep of winning a Super Bowl that then

745
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: can't even get back to the playoffs next year. I mean, look,

746
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: Kansas City finally succumb to it. They're not going to

747
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: make the playoffs this year. And you look at this

748
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: Lions team. They were supposed to be a juggernaut. They

749
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Speaker 3: lost both their coordinators, the important one being their offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: and we see what's happened. That team that that guy

751
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: went to is going to be a playoff team. Now,

752
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: they had a much easier schedule than did the Lions.

753
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Speaker 3: But then the Lions just I don't know what that was,

754
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: but I think the biggest problem with what we saw

755
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: on Christmas was it was just such a bad performance

756
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: by the Lions in a moment where it did look

757
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: like I think they had like a three percent chance

758
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs anyway, so it may have been

759
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: just kind of academic, but they just that's as bad

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Speaker 3: as I've seen that team look in years. And because

761
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: they're the Lions, it's easy to then be like, oh, yeah,

762
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: this is a Lions, Why do we get excited about this,

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Speaker 3: which is not fair at all because they're still loaded

764
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Speaker 3: with talent and it's not the Lions of fifteen twenty

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Speaker 3: years ago. But there are now flaws in the armor.

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Speaker 3: But that's the thing, like the idea that you're just

767
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Speaker 3: going to get back, that you're just built for the

768
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: next ten years is usually not true. It is true sometimes,

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Speaker 3: but ordinarily like you've got to cash in when you

770
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Speaker 3: have the opportunity because next year is never guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: So this is why I said I have a lukewarm

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Speaker 2: take on the Lions. And this is a weird thing

773
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: for me to say, because the Lions are fourth in

774
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Speaker 2: the NFL and scoring, and they are seventh in total offense.

775
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Speaker 2: I don't think their issues are that complicated. They need

776
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: a real offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: No, I thought you were about to go after Golf,

778
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: So no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, listen, I listen. I think Golf is who he is.

780
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Speaker 2: I certainly think you know.

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Speaker 3: Avi.

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Speaker 2: Look, it was all lined up for them last year.

783
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Speaker 2: You had the two coordinators, you were at home throughout

784
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs. It does not happen. But I look at

785
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: this team. There's so much talent on the offensive side

786
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: of the ball. Jamiir Gibbs, Jamison Williams, David Montgomery, Sam Laporter,

787
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: who obviously I know, has been out but the only reason.

788
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Speaker 3: I preaking missed it. I think we realize how valuable

789
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: he was too, because they have not been the same

790
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Speaker 3: without him.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, And we understand the value of what Ben

792
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Speaker 2: Johnson was, And so I understand that maybe there just

793
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: aren't very many Ben Johnson's out there, and maybe he

794
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: is essentially one of one.

795
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Speaker 3: But like.

796
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Speaker 2: As soon as the first time that I saw Dan

797
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: Campbell with those old man glasses on the sideline looking

798
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Speaker 2: at a play sheet and I'm like, oh, he's calling plays,

799
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, the season's cooked, Like it's done. Like you

800
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: can't have the head coach who I'm pretty sure has

801
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: never been a play caller at any point in his career.

802
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: Maybe he has been, I don't know. But he's the

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Speaker 2: culture guy. He sets the culture. I mean, he's you know,

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Speaker 2: fill in the blank. There's a lot of coaches in

805
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: the NFL like this. There are guys like Kyle Shanahan

806
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: that are play callers, and there are culture guys that

807
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: defer the schematics to to the coordinators. That's who Dan

808
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: Campbell is. And the second that he's looking at a

809
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Speaker 2: play sheet, that's not what he is there to do.

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Speaker 2: And so I listen. I'm not an NFL head coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who the hot coordinators are. It doesn't

812
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 2: feel that complicated to me. Now, obviously the defense needs

813
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: to be fixed as well, But I just I just

814
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Speaker 2: think if you get the you had the coordinator right

815
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Speaker 2: last year, you were the number one seed home field

816
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Speaker 2: advantage throughout the playoffs, even though you didn't take advantage

817
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Speaker 2: of it. Get the coordinator wrong last this year, you

818
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Speaker 2: completely missed the playoffs, And I just think it comes

819
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Speaker 2: down to do you get a real coordinator this offseason

820
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Speaker 2: or do you whiff on that? To me, it's it

821
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Speaker 2: really is that simple. Maybe I'm maybe I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: things too simplistically.

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Speaker 3: So is this the Eagles, you know after they lost

824
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: their two coordinators and came back the next year. Yeah,

825
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Speaker 3: same team then came back with Kellen Moore and won

826
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl bingo.

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Speaker 2: And I've seen that analogy, and I think that, Yes,

828
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Speaker 2: I think with the right offensive coordinator that knows how

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Speaker 2: to use all those pieces, I think they're very much

830
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Speaker 2: back in the mixed next year. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: windows closed.

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Speaker 3: Let me put it that way, Okay, do you again,

833
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Speaker 3: I don't believe in windows I still think that they're

834
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Speaker 3: a good football team. Yeah, so I don't think that

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Speaker 3: the window is closed, door open, because I don't believe

836
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Speaker 3: the house has windows.

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Speaker 2: To begin with, very good Detroit Lions eight and eight

838
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Speaker 2: missed the playoffs. They will play in Chicago in week eighteen.

839
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Speaker 2: They will be playing for nothing. The Chicago Bears have

840
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: already clinched the NFC North thanks to the Packers loss.

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873
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Speaker 3: I have not. As a matter of fact, I need

874
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Speaker 3: to actually do that. By the way, Arnie Spaniard, I heard,

875
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: chose James Madison to win it all, So you're already

876
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: ahead of him as long as you don't pick them.

877
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: You know, Arnie Spanier would be the only one who

878
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: figured out how to fill out a bracket before the

879
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: bracket challenge was even available, so that's probably true.

880
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: He'd probably sent me like three four pages on how

881
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: to do that properly.

882
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: Yes, on a yellow legal pad. He picked James Madison

883
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: to win it all. James Madison is eliminated. One team

884
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: who was never in the playoff, the Michigan Wolverines. So Michigan,

885
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: it's been a certainly an intriguing last couple of weeks.

886
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: We all know by now the situation was sure own

887
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: more it was weird. He gets fired, he gets arrested.

888
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: For the time being, his career is very much on

889
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: the back burner. But I bring it up because Michigan

890
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: has spent last three or so weeks looking for a

891
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: new head coach. And I'll tell you, j mart my

892
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: personal opinion. You know when you're out, when you when

893
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: you when you're on a road trip, when you're on

894
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: a journey, you can make a couple of wrong turns

895
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: along the way and end up in the right location.

896
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: Amen. Brother, I know where you're going. I hadd percent

897
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: with you.

898
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: And that's what I think about Kyle Whitningham's and you

899
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: head coach at Michigan take it away.

900
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: I just I think it's a world class higher It's

901
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 3: a guy that I've wondered about for a long time

902
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: and other jobs. But it's just like he seemed happy

903
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: where he was. But then he said he still wanted

904
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: to coach, but he was going to step down from Utah.

905
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: It just felt like, you know, change of scenery, It's

906
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: time for somebody else. There was at least some talk

907
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: to to coach him waiting there. Uh, you know, was

908
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: maybe going to take another job, and in Utah may

909
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: have kind of said, hey, Kyle is if you're cool

910
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: to go ahead and leave, you know, we can make

911
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: sure we retain this guy or whatever. I don't know

912
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: if that's true, but I think Whittingham was ready for

913
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: a change. I think the university was probably ready for

914
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: a change. It had been a great marriage for a

915
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 3: very very long time. But Whittingham is exactly what Michigan needs,

916
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: not just because he's been able to win at a

917
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: place like Utah so consistently, but because of the kind

918
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: of standard of maturity in the program, like who he

919
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: is as a man, who he is as a coach,

920
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: and how he has led that program is exactly what

921
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: Michigan needs. Actually, it's very comparable you would think to

922
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: like a John Beeline or something like that, Like a

923
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: guy that comes in that has the right kind of

924
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: reputation and considering what Michigan has dealt with that in

925
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: the last handful of years, certainly more being a completely

926
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: different animal than Connor Stallions and you know, all of

927
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. But it is time for Michigan

928
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: to also have a little bit of a reputation change.

929
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: They need an adult in the building. They need somebody

930
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: that can write this ship but also be stable along

931
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 3: the way. So they get a dude that's won, that

932
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: has respect everywhere that he's ever been. Basically everybody will

933
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: state the bona fides of that guy, and on top

934
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: of it, he's exactly the kind of man that Michigan

935
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 3: needs right now to try and write a ship that's rocky.

936
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: So it's funny you bring up the the what's the

937
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: right way to put it the cultural adjustment that Kyle

938
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Whittingham would bring. Credit to Isaac Lohenkron for finding this

939
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: tweet yesterday, which made me laugh out loud. Someone named

940
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: Scott Bell tweeted yesterday after the hire. Kyle Whittingham follows

941
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: five women on Instagram, all are fully clothed, and the

942
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: majority of them are related to him. He has zero

943
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: posts in the last eleven plus years hiring grade A plus. So,

944
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Michigan fans, listen, you know, it's tough in cheek,

945
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: but you know, I so outside of the fact that

946
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: he's a really good coach, that is a huge part

947
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: of it that does need to be stated, is you know,

948
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: that is part of what was needed at Michigan is

949
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: just a completely fresh start. You know, our buddy Bernie

950
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Frattle will be on in two hours. He'll have more

951
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: on this story. But you know, I think one of

952
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: the sentiments that came out throughout this process was that

953
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: basically anyone that had any affiliation to Jim Harbaugh just

954
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 2: was not going to be in the mix for this job.

955
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: So that would be a Jed Fish at Washington, that

956
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: would be Jesse Minter, his defensive coordinator, whatever. But that

957
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: was a big part of it is you needed a

958
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: guy that was squeaky clean, no issues, no whatever. But

959
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: also I will say this that was also part of

960
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: what made this hiring process so tough, is that, you know,

961
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: I think you and I may have talked about I

962
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: don't know if we did, but as part of the

963
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: Sharon More firing, slash, arrests, slash, everything, the University of

964
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Michigan has hired an outside law firm to investigate the

965
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: entire athletic department, And so we don't know what kind

966
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: of skeletons are going to come out from that. And

967
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: on top of that, let's not forget that the ad

968
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: who was making the hire over the last couple of weeks,

969
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, we don't know what his future is at

970
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: the school either, and so that's what made it that

971
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: much more complicated. So to get Kyle Whittingham in this situation,

972
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: to me, it's an eight plus plus. And I said

973
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: this yesterday I was filling in with Dan Bayer. I said,

974
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: when the only argument against the hire is the guy

975
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: is sixty six and we wish we could have him

976
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: for twenty years, but will probably only get him for five. Right,

977
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: that means it's a good hire, yes, and and the

978
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: football stuff speaks for itself. I think the other thing

979
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: to jmrd I'll seeing about this today is, you know

980
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: there are guys at the end of their careers that

981
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: just feel like they need to get a fresh start

982
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: and want to do whatever. And you know you could

983
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: tell that it was in decline for Kyle Winningham won

984
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: ten games this year. You know, the BYU game. I

985
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: don't remember the exact details, but I know that they

986
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: like outgained them by a significant margin and b why

987
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: you needed something crazy to win and blah blah blah.

988
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: This ac well, dude.

989
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: I mean the story of Kyle Whittingham is the last

990
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: few years, for the most part, he couldn't keep his

991
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: quarterback healthy, thank you, Like cam Risen kept getting injured, yep,

992
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 3: and like there's just nothing you can do about that.

993
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: Like and I even think Utah fans even understood that.

994
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: The thing that I think spoke most by the way,

995
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: not to interrupt you, but the thing that most spoke

996
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: to Kyle Whittingham is like I saw comments from like

997
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: USC fans and stuff on the articles about him and

998
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: Oregon fans and stuff like this, and they were like, Man,

999
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 3: we were really looking forward to not having to play

1000
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: his teams, and now he's in our conference, Like again,

1001
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: we thought we had finally escaped to Utah because his

1002
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 3: teams always show up prepared, they're always tough to deal with.

1003
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: We're just so tired of having to play these teams.

1004
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: They are angry at the hire because they know it's good,

1005
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: like Michigan found a way to hire a dude that

1006
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: as soon as I saw this, I was just like,

1007
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: I just wanted to applaud for Michigan. I'm like, I

1008
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: don't know if you deserve this based on the last

1009
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: half decade or so, but man, alive, did you knock

1010
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: this thing out of the park. Well?

1011
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: And I was thinking this too, And you bring up

1012
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: an interesting point about the coaching wedding thing, because I'll

1013
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: be honest, when I saw, you know, Kyle Whittingham, I

1014
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: don't even know what the official release was, but it's

1015
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: like Kyle Whittingham stepping away from Utah. You know, My

1016
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: whole thing was man legendary career, the face of Utah,

1017
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: like sad to see him go. And then he saw

1018
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: the press conference or whatever media availability that he had

1019
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: within the next couple of days where he basically said

1020
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm a free agent. I'm in the transfer portal. It's like, oh,

1021
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: this guy wants to coach again, and so it was

1022
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: just it's interesting. The timing of it all is I

1023
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: understand the concept of the coaching wain, and I understand

1024
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 2: the concept of you don't want to lose the guy

1025
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: that you think is the next in line. I also

1026
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 2: wonder like if they, I guess, technically the Michigan job

1027
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: was open when you know Kyle Whittingham stepped aside or whatever.

1028
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: But I just bring it up because I wonder two things. One,

1029
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: I assume Utah sort of forced him out under the

1030
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: assumption that like, hey, he's not coaching next year, and

1031
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: you know, maybe after a year off he won't want

1032
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: to get back in. So one, I wonder if they thought, oh,

1033
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna get a better job than he already has.

1034
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: And then two, you know, there's it's gonna be two years,

1035
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: three years, four years, five years before we can figure

1036
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: this out. But like I could see the scenario where,

1037
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: you know, if you and I are still hosting in

1038
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: this spot two three years down the road, sitting there saying, Man, Utah,

1039
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: I wonder if they had to do that over, if

1040
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: they would have just said, because like Morgan Scalley might

1041
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: be good, but Kyle Whittingham is really good. And I

1042
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: just think it's interesting how it all played out.

1043
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, just it's such a to me.

1044
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 3: I just saw it and I was just like, man,

1045
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: what a hire. Like there it is right there, Like

1046
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: that's I've been waiting, Like his name doesn't even pop

1047
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: up in coaching searches for the last few years because

1048
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: it's just like he's never going anywhere. You know, he's LDS,

1049
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: he's in Utah, he's happy, he's a different guy, all

1050
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: this other kind of stuff, and look, Utah, man, you

1051
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: better be right, like, good luck with that. Imagine pushing

1052
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: him out the door. But at the same time, it

1053
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: could be just a change of scenery for him too,

1054
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: like eventually you just got to move on from the thing.

1055
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: He loved Utah and he did everything under the sun

1056
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: for them, But we've never seen Kyle Whittingham in a

1057
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: scenario where you know he's going to be able to

1058
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: take money and command a whole lot, he's gonna be

1059
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: able to bring in a different like I understand, it's

1060
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: a great school at Michigan, but you can get top

1061
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: flight athletes at Michigan. We know this, Like it's gonna

1062
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 3: be different for him, Like he hasn't had to play

1063
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: the recruiting game in the Sea, but he's gone through,

1064
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 3: you know, having to get guys to come to Utah,

1065
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 3: and now he has to sell people on coming to Michigan.

1066
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: That's not as hard a task. So I want to

1067
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: see what it looks like on the field when you

1068
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: take what he's done as a coach and then add

1069
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: to it a bunch of five star guys that he

1070
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 3: could never hope to get recruited at Utah. Like he

1071
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: maximized the potential of everybody he coached at Utah. Imagine

1072
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: what he can do at a place like Missige.

1073
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: Well, let's take that a step further. He maximized what

1074
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: he could do at Utah, And I think you can

1075
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: legitimately argue now with the information that we have that

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00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: no one maximized the talent that he had less than

1077
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 2: your own more. And I just bring it up because

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00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, and I think we kind of even joked

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00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: about this last week, and you know, we're understanding that

1080
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: there's people's lives have been impacted and we're trying to

1081
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: be sensitive. It's very clear that's your own More was

1082
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: very distracted, you think, and focused on other things other

1083
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: than his football team, including by the way, it was

1084
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: reported this week that I can't even say it's with

1085
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: a straight face.

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00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't know that I saw this

1087
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: because the laughter right there, I'm like, I'm going to

1088
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: miss something here.

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00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: Well, though, he put the whole team on a social

1090
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: media band and then was slided into everybody's DMS. Yeah,

1091
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: so so the only point I'm trying to make. That's

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00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: that's why I laughed, because it's whatever, the only point

1093
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make. And I know we made this

1094
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: point last week, but like that dude was wildly distracted

1095
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: and they still won nine games. And so you talk

1096
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: about Kyle Whittingham maximizing what was conceivable at Utah and

1097
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: now going to a program that no one would argue

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00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: maximized what they had on that roster. Given what we

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00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: now know, I think there's a lot of reason for

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00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: exciting for Michigan fans, no doubt.

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00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean again, I the argument of him being old,

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00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, okay, so let's say he's there five

1103
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: or seven years. The first off, it's like he's so old.

1104
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I also know that there are reports

1105
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: I've seen these that he skis like black diamond, Oh,

1106
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: that he's in phenomenal shape and all this. Like, dude,

1107
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: he's sixty six, not ninety six. Like, calm down. He

1108
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: can coach for a while. And even if he does

1109
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 3: leave in five to seven years, you don't think he's

1110
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 3: gonna have somebody on that staff that you might want,

1111
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: Like he's gonna completely shift the culture, You're gonna continue

1112
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: to win. I would be stunned if you don't. This

1113
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 3: is the complete opposite of the Brian Kelly higher at LSU,

1114
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: where you weren't sure about the culture fit and all this.

1115
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: Nobody even cares about the culture fit. They just know

1116
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: this is a good dude who's also an incredible coach,

1117
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: and you landed that guy. Like considering it's like, what's

1118
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: going on with the Michigan coaching search, Well, they knew

1119
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: what they were doing. That's that's clearly what it was.

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00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: This is not They were turned down by twenty guys

1121
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: and then they went to their maybe pile and Kyle

1122
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: Whittingham was on it. I imagine there's some schools out there,

1123
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: Like I didn't even know Kyle Whittingham was available, but

1124
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: he probably he may not have been, But this is

1125
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: a job that if anybody has earned the opportunity to

1126
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: do this on this stage and take a position like this,

1127
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: it is Kyle Whittingham.

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Speaker 2: I'd be very curious to see how it all plays out.

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00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, there's a ton more to

1130
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: add other than to say that. I mean, let me

1131
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: put it this way. I've yet and you know, the

1132
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: internet can be a very uh hostile place. Yeah, sure,

1133
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: I really have yet to see anyone make the argument

1134
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: that this isn't a good hire. Like I said, the

1135
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: biggest argument is you might only get him for a

1136
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: couple of years. But guess what a couple things. One

1137
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: he's going to be motivated, which I think is an

1138
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: important part. This isn't again a dude at the end

1139
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: of his career just trying to take a check to

1140
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: keep going. I mean, he was forced out by the

1141
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: place that he literally brought to unprecedented heights. And then two,

1142
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: even if it's only four years, five years, who cares?

1143
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: This is the new world? Uh, you know, I'm just

1144
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: trying to think, you know, good coach leave for either

1145
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: better jobs or the NFL or whatever, and so I'm

1146
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: fascinating to see what happens here. Fox Sports Radio Air

1147
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1148
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 2: By the way, Jay Martin, you know who's another big

1149
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: ten coach in his sixties, the guy who has the

1150
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: number one overall seed in the college football playoff Kurtzcinneti.

1151
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: We'll discuss him. We'll discuss the Hoosiers next, and what

1152
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: are the realistic chances that Indiana wins it all? Will

1153
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox

1154
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

1155
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios, Mary with some unbelievable Christmas music

1156
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,160
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1157
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,160
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1161
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00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,680
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1164
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: football Playoff, which kicks off on Wednesday night. Before we do, though,

1165
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: let's get it over the news desk. Steve Disaga was

1166
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 2: training well.

1167
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 7: The Chicago Bears have clinched the NFC North title thanks

1168
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 7: to the Green Bay loss at home tonight Baltimore forty

1169
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 7: one twenty four the final Derrek Henry two hundred and

1170
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 7: sixteen yards rushing and four tds. Houston beat the Chargers

1171
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 7: in LA twenty to sixteen. That clinches a playoff spot

1172
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 7: in the AFC for the Texans. The LA loss clinches

1173
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 7: the AFC West Crown for Denver. We gone nearly a

1174
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 7: decade with it always being Kansas City winning that division

1175
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 7: no more, and in fact that Broncos still have a

1176
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 7: chance at the one seed. The Chargers in primetime games

1177
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 7: this year had been five to oh. This wasn't technically

1178
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 7: one of those, but it was a standalone game, and

1179
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 7: as we mentioned in an hour one, they late in

1180
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 7: a and maybe most surprising, not at all surprising that

1181
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 7: they didn't score much twenty to sixteen against Houston. The

1182
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 7: Texans have the number one defense in the NFL. Cameron

1183
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 7: Dicker is the Pro Bowl kicker for the AFC in

1184
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 7: his career at that stadium. So far in LA on

1185
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 7: extra points, he had been sixty six of sixty seven.

1186
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 7: He missed a late extra point which kept them behind

1187
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 7: by four. More surprising, he missed a field goal inside

1188
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 7: fifty yards in his career. He had been I believe

1189
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Speaker 7: it was one oh six of oneh eight inside fifty

1190
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 7: yards in his career. This is the most accurate kicker

1191
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 7: in NFL history at ninety four percent. No other kicker

1192
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 7: ever is over ninety percent making field goals in his career.

1193
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 7: Brandon Aubrey's close, Justin Tucker was close, just amazing the

1194
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 7: game in so many areas that the Chargers had in

1195
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 7: the well deserved l today. In fact, the punter JK.

1196
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 7: Scott from Alabama usually good for the Chargers seven punts

1197
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 7: only a thirty nine yard average. They really needed him

1198
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 7: to flip the field in a low scoring defensive battle.

1199
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Speaker 7: By the way, Justin Herbert next to weekend, and we'll

1200
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 7: see if the Chargers play starters now that the Broncos

1201
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 7: have clinched. I don't know things will be different next weekend,

1202
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 7: but Herbert would need sixty six yards passing. Next weekend

1203
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 7: to set an NFL record, passing Peyton Manning for most

1204
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 7: passing yards in your first six seasons in the league.

1205
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 7: The Big Game on Sunday on Fox TV Philadelphia at Buffalo,

1206
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 7: and Patriots running back Trevion Henderson cleared concussion protocol. He'll

1207
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 7: play their game on Sunday. In late night college football

1208
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 7: under seven minutes to go in Houston, twenty first ranked

1209
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 7: Houston leads LSU thirty one twenty eight. In the Texas Bowl,

1210
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 7: Connor Wegman with four touchdown passes Number twelve BYU beat

1211
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 7: Georgia Tech in Orlando twenty five twenty one. Also among

1212
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 7: the eight bowl games for this Saturday, nineteenth rank, Virginia

1213
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 7: won thirteen to seven over Missouri and the Gator Bowl

1214
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 7: in Jacksonville. At the New Mexico Bowl, number twenty five,

1215
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 7: North Texas beat San Diego State forty nine, forty seven

1216
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 7: victories for Penn State and East Caroline wins for Fresno

1217
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 7: States and Army. In the NBA, the late game went

1218
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 7: to the Knicks one twenty eight to one to twenty

1219
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 7: five at Atlanta Carl Anthony Towns thirty six points. Jalen

1220
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 7: Brunson with thirty four. Milwaukee got Giannis Antennacumpo on the court.

1221
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 7: He had twenty nine points in a win at Chicago

1222
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 7: won twelve one to oh three at Houston, thirty points

1223
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 7: for Kevin Durant and the Rockets win against Cleveland. Victories

1224
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 7: for Brooklyn and for Miami. Utah won at San Antonio

1225
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 7: won twenty seven to one fourteen despite thirty two points

1226
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 7: from Victor Wembin Yama. Victories for Sacramento and Phoenix. Orlando

1227
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 7: beat Denver won twenty seven to one twenty six. Nikola

1228
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 7: Jokic a triple double thirty four points, twenty one rebounds

1229
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 7: and twelve assists. In an NHL late game, Colorado is

1230
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 7: tied at Vegas with under five minutes left in regulation

1231
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 7: four to four. Chicago won in a shootout at Dallas

1232
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 7: four to three, and guys in that Baltimore win tonight

1233
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 7: against the Packers. The Ravens became the first team in

1234
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: the history of the NFL to have all this in

1235
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 7: the same game. One running back rushes for at least

1236
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 7: two hundred yards, another running back rushes for at least

1237
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Speaker 7: thirty and the quarterback rush for at least fifty yards.

1238
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 7: There were thirty first downs by the Ravens offense, over

1239
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 7: three hundred yards rushing at Green Bay time of possession,

1240
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 7: over forty minutes for the Ravens.

1241
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox

1242
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday or towards Jason Martin broadcasting

1243
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Sega will be

1244
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: back in about fifteen minutes or so with his extended update.

1245
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 3: J Mark.

1246
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: College football Playoff resumes Wednesday night. Ohio State Miami is

1247
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: the opening game in the Cotton Bowl, then three games

1248
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: on on Thursday, which is New Year's Day. Worth noting,

1249
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: by the way, you and I are in for Jason

1250
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: Smith and Mike Harmon on New Year's Night, so we

1251
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: will be on for the tail end of the Sugar Bowl,

1252
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: which is Old miss and Georgia and recapping all the

1253
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: big games. So really quickly I wanted to ask you,

1254
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: this is that we're entering your college football playoff. The

1255
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl features the number one seeded Indiana Hoosiers and

1256
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: the Alabama Crimson Tide. And I was just curious last

1257
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: year was what it was the first year the college

1258
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: football Playoff, and there was all sorts of weird teams

1259
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: in SMU and whatever. But we got a quarter five,

1260
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: or we got a semi final that featured quite literally

1261
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: four of the biggest brands in the sport Penn State,

1262
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas. What do you think about

1263
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: a world where we could potentially see Indiana, Texas tech

1264
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: schools like that in a college football playoff semi final.

1265
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: Do you think it's a good thing for the sport

1266
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: of college football for a school like Indiana legitimately makes

1267
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: a run or in a world where we're always talking

1268
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: about ratings, you know, Indiana probably doesn't move the needle

1269
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: of the way that say a Georgia Wood in Ohio

1270
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: State would on and on.

1271
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Speaker 3: Well again, I mean, I think that's the point. Like

1272
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 3: it depends on where you are coming from terms of

1273
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 3: being good for college football in the short term. For ratings,

1274
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: it's terrible if Indiana becomes a perennial powerhouse. This is

1275
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 3: the start of it, and there has to be a

1276
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: start before something can become a brand. And I do

1277
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: look at Indiana because they're in the Big Ten. It's

1278
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 3: not like, for instance, like Gonzaga is not going to

1279
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 3: rate the way North Carolina or Duke or going to

1280
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 3: but they're always going to be coming from that conference.

1281
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: And you look at for example, Indiana, at least they're

1282
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: coming from the Big Ten, So I think that that

1283
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 3: helps them a little bit. You can always have a

1284
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: team sort of emerge out of a big conference and

1285
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: if they put together a run for five or six years,

1286
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: it becomes a thing. And the short term for ratings

1287
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: it's terrible. I mean, you want the Ohio States, you

1288
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: want the Oregons, you even want the Alabamas. You want

1289
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: those kind of teams. But this is, you know, the

1290
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: new reality of college football. We know what Texas Tech

1291
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: has done to put themselves in this spot, and they're

1292
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: going to do it again next year, and other teams

1293
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: are then win to continue to do it. Other schools

1294
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: are going to have to do it. We had Kenny

1295
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: Dillingham basically saying I need money in order to, you know,

1296
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: really live up to this contract exactly the way you

1297
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: want me to, which is go win a national championship.

1298
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: We have to play the same game everybody else does.

1299
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: So I don't know, like from a football perspective, it's fine.

1300
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: I don't know that it makes much difference either way.

1301
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 3: If it's Indiana or another team. From the revenue perspective,

1302
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 3: it's obviously in the short term not as good as

1303
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: a big brand. But I guess I just kind of

1304
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 3: shrugged my shoulders and say, you know, perhaps they become

1305
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: a power and we're having a different conversation for now.

1306
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: I think it's just kind of an incomplete We have

1307
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: to see what it looks like and see how it

1308
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: plays out over the next five years or so before

1309
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: we can really determine what we're watching right now.

1310
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a completely different question related to Indiana,

1311
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: and I mentioned this again when I was filling in

1312
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: with Dan Byer yesterday. So Indiana is a they're now

1313
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: to actually a six and a half point favorite against

1314
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: Ali Obama, and we will preview these games later. I

1315
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: think they opened it about like an eight and a

1316
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: half nine point favorite, so the money's coming in on Alabama.

1317
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know how. Let me put it this way. Indiana,

1318
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't even want to do like they're a great story.

1319
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: They are a legitimately great team. Beat Ohio State a

1320
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: few weeks ago in the Big Ten championship game, beat

1321
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: Oregon in the regular season at Austin Stadium.

1322
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: I still j mart uh oh, No, I still do.

1323
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: It's something in my college football brain. I just still

1324
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: as listen, nobody loves Signetty more than I do. Duh,

1325
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoz is probably gonna be the number one overall pick.

1326
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: There is still something in my brain that's just like

1327
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose to Alabama or like, I don't know that.

1328
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: If I was ranking teams that I believe will win

1329
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: the national championship, like I don't, I certainly don't think

1330
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: they'd be in my top three or certainly top two.

1331
01:05:58,520 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 3: Georgia, Ohio State, and.

1332
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd probably say Oregon, even though again, Indiana has

1333
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: two head to head wins over three of those three teams.

1334
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: So I was gonna say really quick. And I think

1335
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: the Alabama thing is a good example of I get it.

1336
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: I like, I get all of it. I've watched the

1337
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: Alabama games. They are not vintage Alabama. They can't run

1338
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: the football. They you know, they they really actually struggled

1339
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: for most of the last month of the season. But

1340
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: you think about all the five stars that were accumulated

1341
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: over all those recruiting classes, many of which recruited by

1342
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: the greatest coach in the history of college football. It's

1343
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: not even an Alabama thing. It is just a I

1344
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: love the Indiana story. They've clearly earned the number one

1345
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: I did. They have such a great personality. But it's

1346
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 2: just I'm not ready to, you know, keep using wedding

1347
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: analogies throughout this show. I don't know that I'm ready

1348
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: to go to to get that, you know, commit myself

1349
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: to the rest of my life for Indiana. I just

1350
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you like? Am I crazy?

1351
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: They have be in Ohio State in Oregon, but I'm like,

1352
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, go ahead.

1353
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: It's just it's impossible to say that you're crazy because

1354
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are going to try

1355
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 3: to talk themselves out of Indiana this week because they're

1356
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: Indiana and the other team is Alabama, and you just think, well,

1357
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 3: when they get on that field and they see those

1358
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 3: Alabama uniforms, they're going to be petrified. I don't think

1359
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen. But I can understand that

1360
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 3: that because that look, that's why money is coming in

1361
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 3: on Alabama. Like it's the same thing. It's just there's

1362
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: a prejudice in favor of this gigantic brand that we've

1363
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 3: watched essentially dominate the sport for the last fifteen years

1364
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 3: or sixteen seventeen years, not winning the title every year,

1365
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 3: but just kind of being that perennial team that's always

1366
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: in the mix. And then you've got Indiana. So I understand.

1367
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if you look at it

1368
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: from a football perspective, Indiana is the better football team.

1369
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: So it's like it's this unc well, man, it's conscious

1370
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: bias because you're even trying to say, like, I shouldn't

1371
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 3: feel this way, but I feel this way. And look,

1372
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: I've thought the exact same thing. I'm just like, man,

1373
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: everybody is decrying Indiana getting into this playoff, will watch

1374
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 3: when they beat Indiana, because this, right here is the

1375
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 3: This is the game Indiana has to win. Like, with

1376
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 3: all due respect to their first round and all this

1377
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: other stuff, Indiana's got to win this one. If they

1378
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: go beat that big brand in that big game and

1379
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,799
Speaker 3: advance again, I think you have a completely different story

1380
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 3: on your hands. I understand that this Alabama team really

1381
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be it shouldn't be seen as an upset,

1382
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 3: But I think there are a lot of general college

1383
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 3: football fans that will still be shocked if they win

1384
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 3: that game.

1385
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be interesting to just it'll be interesting

1386
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: to see how they match up. It'll be interesting to

1387
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: see how the game plays out. By the way, I

1388
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: know it don't keep a ton of BOAL scorers updated,

1389
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: but Houston is up thirty one twenty eight on LSU

1390
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: in the Houston Bowl. Lane Kiffin did make an appearance

1391
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: briefly on the broadcast talking about the LSU coaching job.

1392
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: Didn't really say much of note in that one. By

1393
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: the way, I saw a funny stat Jamart. I'll appreciate

1394
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: this since we were both out on LSU early this year.

1395
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: Per Chris Vanini of The Athletic, first time all season,

1396
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: LSU has scored more than twenty five points against an

1397
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: FBS team all season.

1398
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: Long, so so disgusting.

1399
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's why Lane Kiffin is there and Brian Kelly

1400
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: is not. Really quickly speaking of Old Miss, let me

1401
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, do you have any extra empathy?

1402
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: Like Dan Byer said this to me yesterday, said he

1403
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 2: thinks Old Miss is the best story in college football.

1404
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 2: And they're like they're they're the them in Indiana are

1405
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: the easiest teams to root for I get how it

1406
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: all ended with Lane Kiffin, and maybe again it's just

1407
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 2: my college football of me thinking that it's going to

1408
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: end this weekend for Old Miss, so like so like, yeah,

1409
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like, Okay, I'm happy that

1410
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: they got the home playoff game. I expect them to lose,

1411
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: so maybe I just can't whatever, But are they the

1412
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: best story in the sport? And are you like, because

1413
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 2: of how things ended with Lane Kiffin, has it made

1414
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: you root for Old Miss even more?

1415
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I do think that second point is true.

1416
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: Like it's hard not to root for those that team,

1417
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 3: especially when you start to get the stories from the

1418
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 3: players that they were just kind of so over their head,

1419
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: coach seemingly being checked out for the last month that

1420
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: they were playing, and like he's already looking at where

1421
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: he's headed and he's being courted and he's enjoying this.

1422
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: He's making it all about him and all this sudden stuff,

1423
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 3: like those guys are balling out at the same time

1424
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 3: and they're winning. So yes, I do think that I

1425
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: agree with you, But I mean I'm I'm somebody who

1426
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 3: pig Georgia to win it all, and so I'm still there,

1427
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: so I feel like they have to lose this game,

1428
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: but I think they're going to play their guts out

1429
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: in this game and they have the ability to win it.

1430
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 3: I am with you, I think it probably is going

1431
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 3: to end. I don't think they're gonna get blown out,

1432
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: but I think they might be the sentimental favorites at

1433
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: this point. Not that you hate necessarily a couple of

1434
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 3: the other schools. There are a few that you probably do,

1435
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: but there are some other champions that you'd feel pretty

1436
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 3: good about in this situation, Indiana probably being one of them,

1437
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 3: for example. But I think Ole Miss, just because of

1438
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: the story, you feel bad for the fans. You feel

1439
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 3: bad for all of what's going on, because they just

1440
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: kind of got just dragged around for the last couple

1441
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: of months as if they didn't matter. It was just

1442
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 3: all about their head coach, and so you kind of

1443
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 3: do want them to show out. So I hope even

1444
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 3: if they do lose, that it's really really competitive and

1445
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: good kind of the way that was in the regular season.

1446
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: Last thought on All Miss Georgia, I sent this to

1447
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: you and Ian earlier today. Have we acknowledged that Old

1448
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: Miss and LSU are basically co parenting Charlie Weiss Junior,

1449
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: oh Man and the Olds. Like, I think it's funny.

1450
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this, like I saw some you

1451
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: know headline. It's like Charlie Weiss heads back, Charlie West

1452
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Junior and the Old Miss offensive staff head back to

1453
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: Old Miss to prepare for the playoff, and they had obviously.

1454
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: Gotten on the airplane got.

1455
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think everybody knows, but got on the

1456
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: airplane with Lane Kiffin. Then Lane Kiffin, by you know,

1457
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: because he's such a nice guy, decides to let them

1458
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: coach in the playoff. They coach the opening round, then

1459
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,520
Speaker 2: they go back to LSU to start prepping for offseason

1460
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: portal stuff. And then I saw headline and I was like,

1461
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: they're literally co parenting the staff and it's like Old

1462
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: Mess got it, or I guess LSU technically got him

1463
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: for Christmas, and then LSC or Old Miss gets up

1464
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: for the new year, and then we'll see after that.

1465
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 2: I will say this and Kiffin, I did listen to

1466
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: him on the broadcast tonight. I just happened to be

1467
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: prepping for the show. He said all the right things

1468
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: about wanting Old Miss to win and all that and

1469
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: hope he hope they finish it out. Whatever, I do

1470
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 2: wonder like it was a good jet it was a

1471
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: good gesture, a good sign of faith of him letting

1472
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: them coach that team in the playoff. If they were

1473
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: to somehow beat Georgia and now they're not really able

1474
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: to help LSU in the portal or they're splitting time,

1475
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: I do wonder how annoyed Lane Kiffin would be. I

1476
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: don't think he would stop them from coaching. I just

1477
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting thing of like it was

1478
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 2: a feel good story that all of a sudden, I

1479
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: don't think LSU is too excited about if Old Miss

1480
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: is actually playing beyond this portal opening, which comes the

1481
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: day after the college football semi final, our quarterfinals. Just

1482
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: a thought that I had over the last couple of days.

1483
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, man, if you're looking for sympathy for

1484
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin, I don't know where you're gonna find it,

1485
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: or sympathy for ALSU quite frankly, obviously they're gonna do

1486
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: what's in the best interest of their football team. But

1487
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: they just look like they look like the vultures that

1488
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: have gone and you know, robbed the cradle in many

1489
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 3: respects in this case, so like, look the perfect the

1490
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 3: perfect storyline, like if you were writing the script. The

1491
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 3: perfect storyline is Old Miss goes and wins the national championship.

1492
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 3: Now because kiffen Field felt like he couldn't win at

1493
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 3: Ole Miss. So that's one of the large reasons that

1494
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 3: he goes to LSU. It's gonna be easier there. He

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 3: can get better athletes there, all that other kind of stuff,

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: all the work that he's putting at Old Miss. He

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01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: has to work so much harder to do it there

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: than he has to do at LSU. I just I

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: don't know if I can do this year after year

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: and come close but never actually win a championship. They

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01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: can win the championship where he's not been part of

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: the playoff run at all, which is gonna involve winning

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01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 3: against some big time programs. He's sitting at LSU. They

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01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 3: want a championship and the school that he just abandoned

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 3: one one after he left. Dude, they would write so

1506
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 3: many good books, movies, docket. I couldn't. I hope that

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 3: that's what happens. Quite frankly, I don't think that's what's

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 3: gonna happen. But man alive there would not be a

1509
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 3: better storyline that you could ever find than the one

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: where the jaded X goes on and wins the championship

1511
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: while the guy who's now and you know what he

1512
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: thinks is the Promised Land now has all the more

1513
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: pressure because the school that he left actually won after

1514
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,440
Speaker 3: he left. It would just be phenomenal.

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01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: I will say, Bayer, as I said yesterday, said that

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: that was the best story. I don't know that I

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01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: really had thought it that far through, but yeah, if

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: Ole Miss won the championship despite Lane Kiffin, given how

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01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: he left, that'd be actually about as cool as a

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01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 2: story as we've seen in college sports. Fox Sports Radio

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01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: eritors Jason Martin broadcasting that I from the Fox Sports

1522
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Hour three, we will give our official preview

1523
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: and picks of the four college football playoff games. But

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01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: coming up next, our buddy Steve the Seger rejoins us

1525
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: with his extended update everything you missed throughout the day.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Ready, welcome back, everybody. Sports Radio aer George J.

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01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: S Bart broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios

1528
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: as we do every week around this time. Let's get

1529
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: it over to the news desk to Sega take it away,

1530
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: my friend.

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 7: Christmas music has been awesome on the show.

1532
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: All the Christmas classics.

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, did you say you saw on the sideline at the.

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah he is at this Houston LSU game is a

1535
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: big day for rappers at bowl games.

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 3: You remember you was at Oklahoma Alabama? Sure, because they

1537
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 3: played many Men at the end of at the end

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 3: of the third quarter and then the song that Mary

1539
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 3: Just Came Back is kind of what Alabama rolled out

1540
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 3: to after they finished off the team that you Couldn't Kill.

1541
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: Well, it was funny because many Men was supposed to

1542
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: be the Oklahoma theme song.

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm talking That's what I'm talking about later

1544
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 7: that same night.

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01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1546
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 7: As for the two NFL game, Oh, by the way,

1547
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 7: this late game is the Texas Bowl in Houston. Houston

1548
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 7: is beating LSU thirty eight twenty eight under two minutes

1549
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 7: to go. As for the two NFL games, what a

1550
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 7: performance by Derrick Henry. The Ravens won at Green Bay

1551
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 7: forty one to twenty four. Now, Lamar Jackson, the Ravens quarterback,

1552
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 7: was out tonight with a bruise back, so Tyler Huntly started.

1553
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 7: He had eight carries, sixty yards rushing and a touchdown pass.

1554
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 7: The Packers normal starting quarterback Jordan Love with us out

1555
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 7: with a concussion, so Malik Willis stepped in and despite

1556
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 7: the sore shoulder, and he did have to leave in

1557
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 7: the fourth quarter, Willis had a great game. Eighteen of

1558
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 7: twenty one, two hundred and eighty eight yards, three total touchdowns.

1559
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 7: Willis on the ground on nine carries sixty yards rushing.

1560
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 7: Compare that to Green Bay's Josh Jacobs, who had four

1561
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 7: carries three yards in the loss. So the Packers at

1562
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 7: nine six and one are, according to NFL Network stuck

1563
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 7: as the number seven seed come postseason in a couple weeks.

1564
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 7: Derek Henry's going to be in the Hall of Fame

1565
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 7: one day, and this is one of the stats they

1566
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 7: should throw out there, the kind of game he had tonight,

1567
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 7: thirty six carries, two hundred and sixteen yards, four touchdowns.

1568
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 7: This is now seven different times in his NFL career

1569
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 7: he's had at least two two hundred yards rushing and

1570
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 7: at least two rushing touchdowns the same game. No other

1571
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 7: runner in NFL history has had more than three of those.

1572
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 7: He's had seven.

1573
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 3: Nobody's been better. When you just give him eight thousand carries. Yeah,

1574
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 3: his attrition, like trying to tackle him in the second

1575
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 3: half of games is maybe the most impossible thing that's

1576
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 3: ever been asked of an NFL player.

1577
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 7: We've talked about it on the Sunday Show. His high

1578
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 7: school stats, I forget even looking up the video. Just

1579
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 7: the numbers when he was in the state of Florida

1580
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 7: were atrocious. It just, I mean, I mean that in

1581
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 7: a good way. It just we're inhuman. It just should

1582
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 7: not have happened.

1583
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 2: Well, the funny part was, if I remember correctly, he

1584
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: played at a really small high school, and so there

1585
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 2: were some people that didn't recruit him as a running

1586
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: back because they were like, oh, you know, you played

1587
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 2: in six as, doesn't count in Florida or whatever.

1588
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1589
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: Saban decided to give him the rock.

1590
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 7: I will go back to my college basketball analogy because

1591
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 7: many years ago UNLV was in the Big West and

1592
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 7: kept making the Final four. We keep mentioning this on

1593
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 7: Chris Plank Show. The phrase good is good. It doesn't

1594
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 7: matter if you're in the Big West. It doesn't matter

1595
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,879
Speaker 7: if Dick Derek Henry played it as small my goodness

1596
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 7: as he could. Green Bay, by the way, a real oddity,

1597
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 7: the last three games, they've only had one punt total,

1598
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,919
Speaker 7: and they've lost all three games. Apparently the Cowboys recently

1599
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 7: did that as well. Ap says the only NFL teams

1600
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 7: that have done that since at least nineteen sixty are

1601
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 7: these two. Packers and Cowboys recently three straight games. One

1602
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 7: punt or less in the three and you lose all three.

1603
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 7: Houston beat the Chargers twenty to sixteen in LA. Chargers

1604
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 7: their first three drives today had one first down only

1605
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 7: fifteen yards net by early second quarter. Of their first

1606
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 7: four drives, three of them were three and outs. Texans

1607
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 7: got the two long touchdown passes early for the fourteen

1608
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 7: to nothing lead. And this is the Texans team that

1609
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 7: couldn't move the ball against the Raiders last week that

1610
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 7: were under two hundred and seventy five total yards again

1611
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 7: for the eighth time this year, and yet first seven

1612
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 7: plays today over one hundred and fifty yards by the

1613
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 7: end of the first quarter, and each team had about

1614
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,839
Speaker 7: thirteen plays. Houston was at over one hundred and seventy

1615
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 7: yards and the Chargers with just those fifteen. And the

1616
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 7: Chargers missed a chance for points at the end of

1617
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 7: the first half after an interception. Eventually, twenty to sixteen

1618
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 7: Texans clinch a playoff spot.

1619
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox Sports Radio Air

1620
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 2: Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live for the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1621
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 2: We will come back look at those two NFL games

1622
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: from Saturday and make our college football playoff picks. Fox

1623
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1625
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. I we're three tours Martin, Fox Sports

1626
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: Radio broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes,

1627
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: we are live one am Eastern Time around the country.

1628
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 2: We hope, by the way, should have mettioned off top.

1629
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: Hope everybody had a great Christmas holiday. Hope everybody is

1630
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: hopefully enjoying some downtime here heading into the new year.

1631
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: Jason Martin and I will be on not only until

1632
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 2: two am Eastern tonight, but also ten to two am

1633
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon on New Year's Day,

1634
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: recapping three college football quarterfinals. College football playoff kicks off

1635
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night with the Cotton Bowl Miami in Ohio State.

1636
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: We will make our college FOOTBA playoff picks in a minute.

1637
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk a little NFL we should

1638
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: also mention, by the way, with the new and improved

1639
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,519
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1640
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,000
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1641
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1642
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,840
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1643
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,720
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1644
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: every day, and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio

1645
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: as one of your presets in the iHeart app so

1646
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: it will always pop up at the top of your screen.

1647
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: Two NFL games on Saturday, Houston in the first one

1648
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: to say, you just gave you the details, but let

1649
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 2: me set things up for you. Houston gets the twenty

1650
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 2: to sixteen win. Houston goes up fourteen to nothing in

1651
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 2: the first quarter. Houston goes up fourteen nothing in the

1652
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: first quarter. By the way, speaking of Houston, for those

1653
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: who are keeping track of the late bowl game in

1654
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: the Texas Bowl, the University of Houston has just been

1655
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: an LSU thirty eight thirty five, LSU's final game before

1656
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: the Lane Kiffin era officially gets started. Lane Kiffin was

1657
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: actually at the game in the press box earlier in

1658
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 2: the game doing immedia availability. Back to the NFL, Houston

1659
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: wins twenty to sixteen fourteen to nothing lead in the

1660
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 2: first quarter, they hold on controversial illegal contact penalty by

1661
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: the Chargers right before the two minute warning. Bring it

1662
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: up to say, the Houston Texans do get the win.

1663
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 2: Their a straight win, nine out of ten, and they

1664
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: did clinch a spot in the NFL playoffs. They will

1665
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: be a wild card and I don't want to speak

1666
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: for you, J Mart, but I think you feel like

1667
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: they'll be a pretty live road team as a wildcard

1668
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: team in these playoffs coming up.

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01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I mean I think that that's a

1670
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: team that definitely can travel because that defense is going

1671
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 3: to travel. I mean, they've just brutalized some really good

1672
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and some good offenses at times this year. They

1673
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 3: don't ask the offenses to do too much, but there

1674
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 3: are moments when that offense really shows flashes, when the

1675
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 3: connection is really there from the quarterback and the wide receiver.

1676
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 3: You know, the running game could be a bit spotty,

1677
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 3: but they have a few different backs that can do

1678
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 3: a few different things. And in a conference that definitely

1679
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 3: feels undecided in terms of how it's going to play

1680
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 3: out when we get to the postseason, there's no reason

1681
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 3: to think that they are one of those kind of

1682
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 3: teams you do not want to see because that defense

1683
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 3: is going to be ready for you.

1684
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a very interesting team, and I think,

1685
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 2: you know, third straight playoff appearance, they have been there before.

1686
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: I think you start looking at some of the teams

1687
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: that they could hypothetically match up with. Listen, you know,

1688
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 2: New England Patriots obviously are right now currently in position

1689
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: to get the number one overall. We'll see what happens.

1690
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 2: Your Denver Broncos could get it as well. But I

1691
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 2: mean Patriots, a lot of those guys have never been

1692
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 2: part of a playoff situation. I mean even the Broncos,

1693
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: you know, like right, not trying to crap on your team,

1694
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:12,959
Speaker 2: j Martin.

1695
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 3: I mean, look, man, I don't feel confident about that

1696
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 3: offense right now, and you put that out there. They're

1697
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 3: very similar in that regard. Like the offenses can be

1698
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,879
Speaker 3: a little bit wonky. It can be you're not exactly

1699
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 3: sure from week to week what you were gonna get,

1700
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 3: but you generally are from the defense on both sides.

1701
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I mean, Houston has been

1702
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: even more tenacious than has Denver this year, So you

1703
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: really look at it and you're just like, yeah, I mean,

1704
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: that's the kind of game that you could easily see

1705
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 3: it being like a ten to seven kind of game.

1706
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: It may not be, but that's that. That would just

1707
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 3: be a knockdown, drag out fight. And I'm not even

1708
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 3: sure who I would actually favor in that matchup.

1709
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens. Houston does clinch a playoff spot,

1710
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: they will be a wild card. The Los Angeles Chargers

1711
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: in Buffalo Bills have also clinched wildcard spots. Unless I'm mistaken,

1712
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 2: the only playoff spots still up in the AFC the

1713
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: AFC North. With the Baltimore Ravens win over the Pittsburgh

1714
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 2: Steels over the green Bay Packers on Saturday, Baltimore stays

1715
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: alive in the playoff race. They would need the Steelers

1716
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 2: to lose on Sunday against the Cleveland Browns. If that

1717
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: happens next Sunday, Steelers Ravens would be a winner take

1718
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: all takes the AFC North. Any big takeaways on the

1719
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens taking care of business in green Bay not.

1720
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 3: Really, and green Bay just seems like they're hanging on

1721
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 3: for dear life. The quarterback, of course, has been a

1722
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: you know, you have Malik Willison there, but he played really,

1723
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 3: really well. I don't know that Jordan Love would have

1724
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 3: had a particularly better stat line than that. This was

1725
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 3: a situation where they needed a Michael Parsons or anybody

1726
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 3: that could stop Dereck Henry, especially in a game where

1727
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 3: it's not like you were expecting the passing game to

1728
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: be all that special for Baltion more and guess what

1729
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 3: it wasn't. But Derek Henry had four touchdowns at about

1730
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,839
Speaker 3: eight hundred yards. I think he just had another touchdown

1731
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 3: while I was talking, so like that's the problem. Like

1732
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 3: the defense couldn't stop the run, so it didn't matter.

1733
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 3: These are both teams that I don't really have any

1734
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 3: particular fondness for when it comes to what they could

1735
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 3: potentially do. Even if Baltimore does make the playoffs, Green

1736
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 3: baysing can get that seven seed. But I just kind

1737
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 3: of feel like both of them are just due for

1738
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: a fairly early exit and just kind of like, all right,

1739
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 3: let's reach tool, we'll come back next year because it

1740
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 3: just didn't work out.

1741
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 2: Here injuries played the Green Bay Packers and Baltimore Ravens

1742
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: on Saturday Night. No Lamar Jackson, no Jordan Love and

1743
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: of course no Micah Parsons among others. Speaking of injury

1744
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,480
Speaker 2: ravage teams, we saw a bunch of them on Christmas Day.

1745
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:54,440
Speaker 2: The Jayden Daniels lists, Washington Commanders lose to the Dallas Cowboys.

1746
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: You know, JJ McCarthy was not out of the field.

1747
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 2: They still get to win. This being the minute the Vikings,

1748
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: and of course Kansas City loses not only without Patrick

1749
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: Mahomes but without Gardner Minshew. Set up for an interesting

1750
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Christmas Day where the NFL really six teams that really,

1751
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: outside of the Denver Broncos, there really wasn't all that

1752
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: much to play for or really all that intriguing matchups.

1753
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: Sets up an interesting conversation about where the NFL is

1754
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day, especially relative to the NBA. Charles Barkley

1755
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: with some interesting comments on the NBA versus NFL Christmas

1756
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: Day Land Grab Mary play the sound.

1757
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 8: The NFL got greed and started Christmas game. We used

1758
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 8: to have this day to ourselves, but you know, Roger

1759
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 8: Goodell and them pigs at the NFL always wanted to

1760
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 8: hog every day of the week.

1761
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 3: Now they can't play.

1762
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: The NBA.

1763
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 3: Dude.

1764
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 8: I saw those guys yesterday on the ESPN talk about it,

1765
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 8: and they're right, Christmas is an NBA day.

1766
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: So I have a couple of takes really quick, I'll

1767
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: toss it over you, J.

1768
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 3: Mart.

1769
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone owns any day. I think once

1770
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 2: the NFL decided that they were going to play on

1771
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 2: Christmas Day, you know, there wasn't much the NBA could

1772
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: do about it. Now, how the NFL ended up on

1773
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 2: Christmas Day is another conversation, but basically it was a

1774
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: lot self inflicted stuff by the NBA as far as

1775
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: coming out of the bubble. I've told the story million times,

1776
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: but an NBA wasn't sure if they were gonna start

1777
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: before Christmas Day or not. The NFL plays a game

1778
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, next thing, you know, they realized that

1779
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 2: it's a place that they could put some games. But

1780
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: I will say this, felt like there just wasn't much

1781
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: juice with these Christmas Day games this year, and I

1782
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: think part of it was not very good matchups. I'll

1783
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: say this, Jmrt. I don't know if I'm in the

1784
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: total minority on this. I do think being on Netflix

1785
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: didn't help, like it I yeah, I was gonna say,

1786
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: like I can just say from my own personal experience,

1787
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: I was here in the Fox Sports radio studios for

1788
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: the Commanders Cowboys game, a little bit of the Lions game,

1789
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: and I went home and it was just kind of

1790
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: out of side, out of mind. And admittedly nobody was

1791
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: playing for a ton and maybe if it was Chiefs

1792
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: Bills with Mahomes and Allen, it would have I would

1793
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 2: have defaulted to put the game on. I do wonder

1794
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: if you know, I don't know if I'm gonna go

1795
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: call Roger Goodello pig or anything like that, but you know,

1796
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 2: I do think it's a conversation of it's too much

1797
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 2: of anything, not a good thing. And this felt like

1798
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 2: the first time that I really felt like this Christmas

1799
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: Day thing ain't really clicking the way that I felt

1800
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: like it was even a year or two ago. For

1801
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1802
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the matchups definitely make a difference, right

1803
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 3: and even like you know, Detroit then coming out and

1804
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 3: laying that egg Cowboys are gonna rate because they're the Cowboys,

1805
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 3: but they're out of the playoffs, right out of the

1806
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 3: playoff race, and I'm not sure that you were expecting

1807
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 3: them to be in it when you set this game up,

1808
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 3: but Washington was certainly likely in your head based on

1809
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 3: what they had done last year, and then Denver was

1810
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 3: a playoff team last year in Kansas City is Kansas City,

1811
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 3: so you ended up getting a dog there because you

1812
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 3: didn't even have my homes playing in that game, and

1813
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 3: then that game wasn't very good. But I will say this,

1814
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 3: I personally just didn't care about watching the NFL on

1815
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: Christmas Day, yes, and basically didn't like I didn't go

1816
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: out of my way to do it. I knew I

1817
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 3: wasn't hosting until Saturday, but at the same time, like

1818
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 3: I was with my family, I was doing other things

1819
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 3: to With all due respect to Charles Barkley, I didn't

1820
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 3: watch the NBA very much either that day. I watched

1821
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 3: some of it, but generally it was just like I

1822
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 3: just wanted to do other stuff. And I do think

1823
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 3: that the amount of time or the amount of weeks,

1824
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 3: maybe that's the way to put it, that there feels

1825
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 3: like there's three four days of NFL football, Like I

1826
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 3: just I can't bring myself to sit there that much

1827
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 3: and do that anymore that maybe I would have twenty

1828
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 3: years ago. I don't know, but like it didn't even

1829
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: really necessary. It wasn't even just because the matchups. It

1830
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 3: was just because you know what, no not today. And

1831
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's how most people felt. I'm

1832
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 3: sure a lot of people did tune in. I don't

1833
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 3: know what the numbers are gonna look like, and of

1834
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 3: course Netflix and streaming it changes, you know, how the

1835
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 3: metrics are set up and all that. I get it,

1836
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 3: but I just I just didn't care. That's that's the

1837
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 3: only way I can put it. Is just I did

1838
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 3: not have to host radio that day, and I just

1839
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 3: tuned it out almost entirely, because I knew by the

1840
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 3: time we were coming on, there were gonna be two

1841
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 3: more games played, there were gonna be more bowl games played,

1842
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna be looking ahead to the college football playoff.

1843
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 3: It was just kind of like, here was a day

1844
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 3: of football that I felt like I could pass on

1845
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 3: because I'll be excited for the games tomorrow. Because Sunday

1846
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: you get all of it, You tune into red Zone,

1847
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: you do the whole thing. This day just felt like

1848
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 3: it just felt like one I could skip, and I,

1849
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 3: surprisingly enough, I took that opportunity, and I skipped it.

1850
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: So, you know, probably not too thing for two national

1851
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 2: radio hosts to admit, but sure, I was basically in

1852
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 2: the same boat. And you know, I'll give credit to

1853
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 2: a couple of people. One I remember, even going back

1854
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: to last Christmas, I hosted with VJ. Husky, and he said, like,

1855
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 2: you know, if you remember last year, it was a

1856
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 2: little different because Christmas was on a Wednesday, and we

1857
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 2: had basically come off of a week where you had

1858
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 2: the Thursday NFL game, then you had Saturday games, then

1859
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 2: he had Sunday, then he had Monday, then you're back

1860
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, then you're back on Thursday. And I remember

1861
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 2: us talking about, like, it's just too much. But as

1862
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: far as this year is concerned, So I had this

1863
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 2: thought and we talked about it a little bit, you know,

1864
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 2: the show that I was doing the other day. But

1865
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people feel the same way

1866
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: you do. And what I was saying to somebody was,

1867
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 2: it feels like the NFL is almost like baked into

1868
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 2: the cake of Thanksgiving Day, right of Hey, you know,

1869
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 2: Grandma's gonna be cooking in the kitchen. We're gonna have

1870
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: that Detroit game on early you know, you know, I

1871
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 2: don't mean to be sexist here. Grandma's cooking, guys are

1872
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 2: in the other room. Maybe your place is different. I'm

1873
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 2: just speaking in hypotheticals here. Then you kind of eat,

1874
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 2: you have the cowboys out in the background, You kind

1875
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 2: of sit on the couch, get to digest, and then

1876
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 2: you know, there's a late game whatever. It feels like

1877
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: it's baked into the cake. And I don't think one

1878
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: it just isn't for the NFL, And part of it

1879
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 2: is it's only been for a few years. But I

1880
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: was also thinking about this with the NFL, is that,

1881
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: like Christmas is such a different holiday where oftentimes you're

1882
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 2: going to two or three places you have family over here,

1883
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: but you got family over there. The point that VJ

1884
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 2: brought up, so I'm not a parent, so it's a

1885
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: little bit different for me. But you know he was saying,

1886
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 2: like I was helping my kids put toys together.

1887
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I was too.

1888
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so like you said, the number is still

1889
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: gonna be good. But the other point too with the NBA. Two,

1890
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: why I think the NBA works on Christmas Day besides

1891
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 2: the fact that it's been around forever, Like, let's be honest,

1892
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 2: like you don't have to watch every second of every game, yes,

1893
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,919
Speaker 2: to get the gist of what's going on where Cowboys

1894
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 2: and Commanders. And to your point, we haven't had to

1895
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,560
Speaker 2: talk about it, but if we did, you can't just

1896
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 2: kind of have it on in the background and be

1897
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: like oh yeah, uh yeah, Dack through for three hundred

1898
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 2: and twenty yards and like you kind of gotta be watching.

1899
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 2: And so I do think there is something there where. Yes,

1900
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: the matchups didn't help, and I think we both agree

1901
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 2: that if it was Bill's Chiefs and mahomes Allen, like, yes,

1902
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: we would have tuned in. But I feel like you

1903
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: were not the only one because I know that I

1904
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 2: wasn't the only one. Like I said, I will readily

1905
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 2: admit and if it makes me a bad sports talk

1906
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 2: radio host, I'll admit it. But I went home on

1907
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: Christmas night. I had been here for four hours, and

1908
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, like my wife deserves

1909
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 2: this time, and we put on Home Alone or whatever.

1910
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: And it's no different for people with kids, people with

1911
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 2: why It's like at some point, like you have football

1912
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: and basically five days a week now and it's just like, yeah,

1913
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm just basically making the same

1914
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: point you did. But I hit that wall too, of

1915
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 2: just like I love the NFL, we all do, but

1916
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 2: it's like at some point you do have to make

1917
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Speaker 2: some time for your family, and I don't know that

1918
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: it translates to Christmas quite the same way that it

1919
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: does for Thanksgiving.

1920
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that point about the NBA

1921
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 3: is right when it comes to you don't have to

1922
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 3: watch the entire thing. I remember many many Christmases growing

1923
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 3: up where the Knicks would be on at noon or

1924
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 3: even eleven am, depending on where I was at that point,

1925
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 3: and like it would be on after we had opened gifts,

1926
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 3: would probably even be eating biscuits or something like breakfast,

1927
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 3: late breakfast that we would usually do or something it'd

1928
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 3: be on, and like every once in a while I

1929
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 3: glance up and I'd catch a minute or two and

1930
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 3: I'd watch it. But like you talk about things that are,

1931
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 3: you know, not the things that you say it's sports,

1932
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 3: stock radio is looking My life is more than sports,

1933
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 3: and I think that a lot of people out there

1934
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 3: on a daylight Christmas, I already have to take check.

1935
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 3: Like if I'm gonna be on the air, then that

1936
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 3: makes things a little bit different. I get it, but

1937
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 3: I don't think that people fully appreciate the fact that

1938
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 3: what they see as an escape is not an escape

1939
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 3: for you and me. Sure, when we watch we watch

1940
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 3: sports in terms of, hm, what's gonna give me thirteen minutes? Sure,

1941
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 3: what's gonna give me eight minutes? Like what people use

1942
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 3: to relax is the opposite for us. So, after doing

1943
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 3: everything that we did family wise and all this, look

1944
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 3: at broncos of my team and I watched that game

1945
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 3: via the box score. I mean, I had a live

1946
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 3: v going on, but like I was exhausted, and I was,

1947
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 3: you know, laying with my wife and talking to her,

1948
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,480
Speaker 3: and we were talking about the day and watching videos

1949
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 3: of you know, our one year old on a riding

1950
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 3: toy and all this other kind of stuff, and like

1951
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 3: football just didn't measure up that day because I knew

1952
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 3: there was gonna be more football the next day and

1953
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 3: the next day and the next day, and I was

1954
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to watch a lot that now I was

1955
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 3: gonna be inundated with it again. It just felt like

1956
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:01,799
Speaker 3: it felt like a day that didn't necessarily need my attention,

1957
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 3: and so it just didn't get it.

1958
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, it'll be interesting with the numbers

1959
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 2: again because it's streaming, it'll make it a little bit different.

1960
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think the NFL is gonna stop,

1961
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,719
Speaker 2: and I don't think they're gonna be incentivized to stop.

1962
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: But it did feel like and again, maybe it was

1963
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 2: the games, maybe it was the matchups, but it just

1964
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: felt like first time for me in a while where

1965
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 2: it's just like, dude, at some point, like you said,

1966
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 2: and I think it's a great point by you, is

1967
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 2: we all love what we do, but this job isn't

1968
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: the only thing that we do and it isn't what

1969
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 2: defines us. And first time for a while it felt

1970
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,759
Speaker 2: like I not only did I not watch, I actually

1971
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 2: didn't really feel that guilty. Fox Sports Radio aer toors

1972
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1973
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 2: Four games. We will be watching college football quarterfinals. They

1974
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 2: kick off Wednesday night. Coming up next we will preview

1975
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: them all aer towards Jason Martin.

1976
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 3: Fox Sports.

1977
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Erra toords Jason Martin,

1978
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. It is

1979
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 2: Saturday evening. College football Playoff kicks Off or rekicks off

1980
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,719
Speaker 2: really is a way right way to say it. Wednesday

1981
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: night with the Cotton Bowl Miami in Ohio State. Jason

1982
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 2: Martin and I will be filling in for Jason Smith

1983
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 2: and Mike harmon ten pm Eastern New Year's Day. But

1984
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: as I said, for college football playoff games, since we're

1985
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 2: not gonna be on air, j mart and since it's

1986
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of a slower week seventeen in the NFL,

1987
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 2: figured we go ahead and make our preview and picks.

1988
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Now tell you what Mary I didn't tell you, but

1989
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: give us a little football music.

1990
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 7: Ian.

1991
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 2: What games are we previewing? All right, I know what games?

1992
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 6: But for America, let's go chronological order here, starting on

1993
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 6: New Year's Eve. That's coming Wednesday here Miami. It's taken

1994
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 6: on Ohio State. Ohio State's favored by nine and a half. Here,

1995
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 6: who you guys got I'll start with you, Aaron, so

1996
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 6: I'll be real.

1997
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 2: So what I did pick Indiana to beat Ohio State

1998
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 2: in thee in the Big Ten Championship game. I'm just

1999
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: not sold on Ohio State. I'm gonna make one thing clear.

2000
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 2: I think they probably win. But that Miami defense, that

2001
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 2: defensive front is the real deal. Look at what they

2002
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 2: did against Texas, A and M and Ohio State. Just

2003
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: I really don't feel like they were tested at any

2004
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 2: point this season. Michigan was whatever, Washington was pretty good,

2005
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 2: but they didn't play Oregon, they didn't play Indiana until

2006
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game. I will take Ohio State

2007
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: to win. Actually, you know what, I just filled up

2008
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: my Fox Sports Radio bracket challenge and I called the

2009
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 2: upset with Miami, So I'm gonna stick with that. I'll

2010
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 2: say Miami twenty, Ohio State seventeen.

2011
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 3: Wow. I got Ohio State by at least two touchdowns.

2012
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 2: Wow.

2013
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 3: I definitely believe in it more than you do. I

2014
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 3: know what Miami's capable of, but I just feel like

2015
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 3: Carson Beck is gonna show up and be Carson Beck,

2016
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 3: and I think that's gonna be enough. I just I

2017
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 3: feel much stronger about Ohio State than Miami, even though

2018
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 3: I understand they have a lot of talent on both

2019
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. I just feel like Ohio State

2020
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 3: is gonna be way too much for.

2021
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: Them very well. Could be probably the best defense that

2022
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 2: they've faced, at least since Texas. So I guess Indiana's

2023
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 2: probably pretty good too. So we'll see what happens. I

2024
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 2: do think I don't even know if I picked Miami.

2025
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: I think I was leaning towards picking Miami. So I'm

2026
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 2: just gonna stick with it. I'm just not as sold

2027
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 2: out Ohio State. And by the way, the one thing

2028
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: about Ohio State, I'll say really quickly, I do think

2029
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 2: they're a yearhead of schedule. I mean, Julian's saying first

2030
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 2: year starter Jeremiah Smith as another year. So we'll see

2031
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 2: what happens New Year's Eve in the Cotton Bowl. Ian,

2032
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 2: what's the next game?

2033
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: All right?

2034
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 6: So Aaron, you got the Miami upset? And Jmart with

2035
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,879
Speaker 6: check my bracket real quick. Fox Sports Radio dot iHeart

2036
01:40:57,880 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 6: dot com is where people need to sign up.

2037
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 2: I want to see what I actually picked.

2038
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 6: All right, all right, and then j Mart, you've got them.

2039
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 6: You've got an Ohio State cover on the spread there.

2040
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 6: Next up New Year's Day, Oregon's going to be facing

2041
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 6: Texas Tech.

2042
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 2: There. Oregon's actually favored by two and a half.

2043
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 1: Though.

2044
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 7: We'll start with you this time, j Mart, who you got, Matt.

2045
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 3: This is a situation where Texas Tech has the defense.

2046
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't know that they have the offense. This is

2047
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 3: the game that really will showcase what Dante Moore is

2048
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 3: capable of doing if the hype is justified in terms

2049
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 3: of potential even number one pick in some people's minds

2050
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 3: any NFL draft, if he even decides to declare, which

2051
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 3: could be a different argument depending on where he's going

2052
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,839
Speaker 3: to be slotted, perhaps during a pre draft process or whatever.

2053
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 3: But I just don't know here. I feel like I

2054
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 3: have to. I feel better about Oregon, I think because

2055
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm just not sold on Texas Tech's offense. But the

2056
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 3: thing that scares me a little bit is I'm not

2057
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 3: exactly sold on Oregon's defense either. I'm gonna take Oregon,

2058
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't feel particularly good about it. I think they'll

2059
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 3: I think that they will cover that spread because it's very,

2060
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 3: very small, But this is what I don't feel particularly

2061
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 3: good about either way.

2062
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, to me, actually is the one that

2063
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 2: I am most in some ways most intrigued by. And

2064
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 2: this is the one that I definitely think could easily

2065
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 2: go either way. By the way, I did pick Miami

2066
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 2: in the bracket when I filled it out, so I'm

2067
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 2: just gonna stick with that, even if I think Ohio

2068
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 2: State probably does win. So I'm gonna take Oregon for

2069
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: the same reason that you are, Jmart. Basically Texas Tech. Listen,

2070
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't buy that like Texas Tech played in the

2071
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 2: Big Twelve, they're not good. We said that about Miami

2072
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 2: last week. Look how that worked out, right. But I

2073
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 2: am worried a little bit about that Texas Tech offense.

2074
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 2: I know they scored a lot of points against most

2075
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 2: of their competition, especially when they're starting quarterback played in

2076
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 2: all these games, but I just don't know that it

2077
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's just something about the offense that

2078
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: does concern me. And Oregon, like I do think that

2079
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 2: they are they're obviously more battle tested. It's weird because

2080
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 2: they didn't play Ohio State. They lost to Indiana. But

2081
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 2: you look at some of the teams that Oregon beat

2082
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 2: along the way. They woned Iowa, they took care of

2083
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 2: USC and it wasn't really close. They took care of

2084
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Washington and it wasn't really close. So I will take

2085
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 2: Oregon to win this game as well. I'll tell you what.

2086
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 2: We will come back preview the next two games. We

2087
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 2: still got two games left, two very intriguing games left,

2088
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 2: which we will get to in a minute. Before we do, though,

2089
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 2: why don't we get it over the news desk? Final

2090
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 2: time for our show, Steve de Seger, What is tread Day?

2091
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 2: We'll start with the two NFL games today in LA.

2092
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,839
Speaker 2: Houston beat the Chargers twenty to sixteen. Houston led fourteen

2093
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 2: to nothing early on two long touchdown passes. Texans have

2094
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 2: won eight straight. The Colts are officially eliminated. This clinch

2095
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 2: is a playoff spot for the Texans and the La

2096
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 2: loss clinch the AFC West crownd for Denver. Justin Herbert

2097
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 2: was said five times. Baltimore won tonight at Green Bay

2098
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 2: forty one to twenty four. Ravens still alive at eight

2099
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 2: and eight. Derrick Henry thirty six carries two hundred and

2100
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: sixteen yards rushing four touchdowns. Tyler Huntley tonight's starting quarterback

2101
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson out with the Bruce Beck. Huntley eight

2102
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 2: carries sixty yards and a touchdown pass. This result clinches

2103
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 2: the NFC Nord title for the Chicago Bears. Packers will

2104
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 2: again be the seventh seed in the playoffs.

2105
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 7: By the way, that's three straight years as the seventh

2106
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 7: seed for them, and Derrick Henry joins an elite group

2107
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 7: in NFL history to have at least one hundred yards

2108
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 7: rushing and multiple rushing touchdowns in a game. He's done

2109
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 7: that twenty five times in his career, as did Jim

2110
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 7: Brown and Ladanian Tomlinson. The Big Game on Sunday on

2111
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 7: Fox TV Philadelphia at Buffalo Bill's quarterback Josh Allen is

2112
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 7: due to play despite a foot injury. He practice fully

2113
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 7: on Friday. The weather rain and about forty degrees. The

2114
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 7: Bills are six and one at home getting a new home.

2115
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 7: The new stadium's being built next door, supposed to be

2116
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 7: ready for next year. The other and there's only one

2117
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,839
Speaker 7: other late afternoon game in the NFL Tomorrow. Giants, losers

2118
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 7: of nine straight at Raiders, losers of nine straight. Each

2119
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 7: team two and thirteen. The loser could get the number

2120
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 7: one overall draft choice. The Raiders have been outscored by

2121
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 7: almost one hundred and seventy points this year, worse in

2122
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 7: the NFL. Giants have been outscored by about one hundred points.

2123
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 7: Worst in the NFC. Giants are zero to eight on

2124
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 7: the road going into Tomorrow's matchup Las Vegas, dead last

2125
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 7: in the league in rushing about seventy five yards a game.

2126
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 7: As a team on the ground. College football had eight

2127
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 7: bowl games, including the late one in Houston, which was

2128
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 7: won by twenty first ranked Houston. It edged LSU thirty

2129
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 7: eight thirty five earlier wins for BYU and Virginia. Twenty

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Speaker 7: fifth ranked North Texas won the New Mexico Bowl forty

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Speaker 7: nine to forty seven over San Diego State. East Carolina

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Speaker 7: beat Pittsburgh twenty three seventeen. Pick committed five turnows so

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01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 7: eascu's offense thirteen drives, just eleven first downs, and they

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Speaker 7: won the game. Penn State led at Yankee Stadium sixty

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Speaker 7: three to start the fourth quarter and beat Clemson twenty

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Speaker 7: two to ten. At Fenway Park in Boston, Army led

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Speaker 7: fourteen ten at the half forty one sixteen the final

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01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 7: over Yukon Army for the game fifty six carries, three

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01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 7: hundred and sixty eight yards rushing and five touchdowns on

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Speaker 7: the ground. At the Arizona Bowl in Tucson, Fresno State

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01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 7: kicked four field goals and beat Miami, Ohio eighteen to three.

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Speaker 7: The late NBA game to the Knicks won twenty eight

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Speaker 7: one twenty five at Atlanta carl Anthony Towns thirty six points,

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Speaker 7: Jalen Brunson with thirty four. Milwaukee got Janis Antenacumpo.

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Speaker 2: On the court.

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Speaker 7: He had twenty nine points in a win at Chicago.

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01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 7: Houston got thirty points from Kevin Durant in a win

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Speaker 7: over Cleveland. Victories for Brooklyn and Miami Utah one at

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Speaker 7: San Antonio won twenty seven to one fourteen despite thirty

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Speaker 7: two points from Victor wembn Yama. Victories for Phoenix, Sacramento,

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Speaker 7: and Orlando, which edged Denver one twenty seven one twenty

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01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 7: six despite a triple double from Nicola Jokich. Most of

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Speaker 7: college basketball is still on Christmas break. Most teams resume

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01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 7: on Sunday or Monday, Men's and women's. Among the thirteen

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01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 7: NHL games, Toronto seven to five over Ottawa, Colorado wanted

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01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 7: a shootout at Vegas. Chicago wanted a shootout at Dallas,

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01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 7: LA six to one over Anaheimback.

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Speaker 2: To you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager. Have a

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01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: great evening. No, You'll be back with the fellas on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Arnie Spanier, Chris Plank and Mark Willard and e from

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Speaker 2: Salam Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tors, Jason Martin, take it

2162
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,679
Speaker 2: you till two am Eastern. Bernie Fretto up in twenty

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01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 2: five minutes. We still have two college football playoff games

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01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 2: to preview. Ian What game is up next?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 6: Four pm Eastern time on New Year's Alabama's taken on

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01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 6: Indiana and the Hoosiers. Indiana's favored by six and a

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Speaker 6: half points. Here, Who you got, Aaron, We'll start with you.

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01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 6: So I am gonna take Indiana to win outright. I

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01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 6: don't know if I like them to cover. We talked

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01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 6: about this in hour two. If you missed it, you

2172
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,719
Speaker 6: can check out the podcast. We'll give you full details

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01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 6: on the podcast in a few minutes. I do think

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01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 6: there is something to Alabama. Guy for guy has a

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01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 6: crap ton of talent. But I also do think Alabama

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01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 6: is a fundamentally flawed team. They are a team that

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Speaker 6: has not been able to run the ball all year.

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01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 6: They have holes on their defense, and you know, let's

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01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 6: be honest, listen, good, you know, listen. They took care

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01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 6: of business against Oklahoma. They were the deserving winner in

2181
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 6: that game, but over the last month they were not a.

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01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 2: Good football team, dominated by Oregon seven point win over.

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01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 2: Oregon lost to Oklahoma during the regular season. I mean,

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01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 2: you just go back to the South Carolina game. They

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01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 2: easily could have lost that game. So I think the

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01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 2: one thing about Indiana, they are so fundamentally sound, do

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01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 2: not beat themselves Alabama one through eighty five or whatever

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01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 2: the scholarship numbers are.

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01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 2: I believe it's the talent advantage, but I think Indiana

2191
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 2: does get the win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think Indiana wins. I think the cover.

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01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 3: I think that Look, Bama hasn't been able to run

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01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 3: against anybody. Indiana doesn't let people run against them, so

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01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 3: it's going to be even worse there. So it's all

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01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 3: gonna be on ty Simpson's shoulders. And I just feel

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01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 3: like Indiana can sit back and pick their spots and

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01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 3: probably pick them off a couple of times in this game.

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Speaker 3: I just I think their defense is to sound, and

2200
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 3: to your point, they're just they're fundamentally sound, They're well coached.

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Speaker 3: They're going to go in confident but not arrogant, but

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01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 3: they are going to expect to win the game. They

2203
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 3: also are going to expect to fight. I think they

2204
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 3: are ready to meet this moment. And Alabama is just

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01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 3: very beatable. They're a very flawed team despite being well

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01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 3: coached and all of those things. I just think this

2207
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 3: is going to be that moment where Indiana takes that

2208
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 3: next step in the eyes of a lot of fans.

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Speaker 3: I think they may actually win this thing pretty handily.

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 3: This could be one of those where it's just like,

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01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 3: oh oh, I didn't realize Indiana was this. I think

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01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 3: that might be what we're looking at.

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01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 2: Indiana, by the way, second in the country in turnover margin,

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01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 2: in other words, fewest turnovers relative to the amount that

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01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 2: they create. About that, they have also tied with Texas

2216
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 2: Tech for the fewest total excuse me, They are third

2217
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: in the country in fewest turnovers on the season, by

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01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 2: the way, Number one the Yukon Huskies another conversation for

2219
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,879
Speaker 2: another day, point being they take care of the football

2220
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: really fundamentally sound. I do like Indiana. Go ahead to you,

2221
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 2: all right?

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01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 6: Last one, eight pm Eastern Time in the Sugar Bowl,

2223
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:24,919
Speaker 6: Ole Miss is taken on Georgia.

2224
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 2: The dogs are favored by six and a half. Here,

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01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 2: who you got, j Mart, I.

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01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 3: Mean, I've got Georgia. If I've got Georgia winning at all,

2227
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin all the predictions on the way,

2228
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 3: but I do think the Old Miss story would be incredible.

2229
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 3: I just think George is the most complete team right

2230
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,719
Speaker 3: now in the country. I feel like they are playing

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01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 3: the best of anybody in the country entering everything that

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01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,959
Speaker 3: we're seeing right now as well. I just they feel

2233
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 3: like just an inevitable champion to me, So I can't

2234
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 3: pick Ole Miss despite the fact that I think that

2235
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 3: they will show put up a good fight and that

2236
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 3: might be just a whale of a football game as

2237
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 3: good as the story will be. I've got the dogs.

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01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it earlier. I think Old Miss

2239
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 2: would be winning would be probably the best story of

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Speaker 2: the college football playoff, given how lang Kiffin departed, and

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01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 2: I think, by the way, just would be a really

2242
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 2: interesting narrative if they were to win this game and

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01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: Old Missus staff was still going back and forth going

2244
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 2: into now the middle of January, I don't think it's

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01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: going to be an issue. I actually think you and

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01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 2: I will be on air as this game goes final.

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01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 2: I think this one could be over middle of the

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01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 2: third quarter Georgia and Ole Miss. By the way, of course,

2249
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 2: Old Missus only loss at Georgia earlier this year. So

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Speaker 2: college football quarterfinals kickoff on Wednesday night, j Martin. I

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01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:51,599
Speaker 2: agree on the first game on New Year's Day, which

2252
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 2: is Oregon over Texas Tech. We agree on the Rose Bowl,

2253
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:56,759
Speaker 2: Indian over Alabama. We agree on the late Sugar Bowl,

2254
01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 2: Georgia overall miss We differ on the New Year Eve game.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking Miami. He's taken Ohio State. I sort of

2256
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 2: already regret that pick, but I put it out into

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01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 2: the universe, so there's no turning back.

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01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jays Martin will come back. We'll

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01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:13,879
Speaker 2: wrap the show talk a little bit about Week seventeen

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01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 2: of the NFL. The Saga just told you Bill's Eagles Bears,

2262
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:20,639
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, a couple intriguing matchups. That's next. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Era Torres

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01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 2: Hope everyone had a great Christmas, and hope everybody is

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01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 2: excited for what is following us. That is Bernie Fratto

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Speaker 2: of the Bernie Fratto Show. Bernie is gonna have so

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01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 2: much good stuff on everything going on in the world

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Speaker 2: of sports. We know Bernie is plugged in in the

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01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,719
Speaker 2: world of Michigan athletics of plenty on the higher there

2271
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 2: covered the Detroit Lions plenty on the Lions downfall. I

2272
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 2: think he's gonna have something for you on Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: that you're gonna want to listen to as well. Speaking

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Speaker 2: get off air. J Mart. With two Saturday games and

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01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 2: three Sunday three Thursday games, I should say NFL Slate

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01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 2: Week seventeen a little bit lighter on Sunday. Couple notable

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01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 2: games though.

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Speaker 3: One.

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01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 2: First of all, let me ask you this, Pittsburgh can

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01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 2: clinch the AFC North with a winning Cleveland. I know

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01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 2: how good Miles Garrett is, I know how good the

2289
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 2: defense is. Do the Browns have any chance to win

2290
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 2: this game and force a winner take all AFC North

2291
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 2: Championship game next Sunday?

2292
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 3: Should do because nobody in AFC. North's that good anyway,

2293
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 3: So I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, you know.

2294
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 3: I mean, they gave the Bills a run a week ago,

2295
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,919
Speaker 3: so there's no reason they could do that again. Miles

2296
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 3: wants that sack record against Aaron Rodgers. Maybe he'll get it.

2297
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 3: We'll see. I don't think they'll win the game, but

2298
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 3: stranger things have happened, just because again, I could see

2299
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh laying an egg in this game, but generally I

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01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 3: feel like Pittsburgh's probably gonna win. I also think Garrett

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01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:23,679
Speaker 3: may get sack record as well.

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01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 2: Well, we will see what happens there. Really quickly, let's

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01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 2: get to some of the other noteworthy games. There was

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01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 2: the thought, by the way, oh oh we can we

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01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 2: can't skip in some ways the most noteworthy game of

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01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 2: the day Giants at Vegas. Oh boy, loser the inside

2307
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 2: track to Fernando Mendoza, or at the very least the

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01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 2: number one overall pick. What do you think is gonna

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01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 2: happen in Vegas. I have a buddy, by the way,

2310
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 2: who's a Giants fan who booked a flight out for this.

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01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: He loves Vegas, but I don't know that he knew

2312
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 2: that he was going to be attending the battle for

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01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick between the Giants and the Raiders.

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01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, honestly. I mean I think that

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01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 3: this is like, this is the kind of game where

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 3: you could see Jackson Dart go off yep, actually run

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01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 3: the ball again, and you know he's coming off a

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01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 3: really bad performance. But that was a tough, tough scenario

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01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 3: for him. This Raiders team's trying to tank. Max Crosby's

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01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 3: not gonna play. He's gonna have to have surgery. He's

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01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 3: done for the year. Maybe gentigoes off in this game too,

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01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 3: But I think Jackson Dart likely is kind of the

2323
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 3: difference here because of the multifaceted ways that he can

2324
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 3: attack you. So I kind of like the Giants to

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01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 3: win here because of him.

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01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: So I actually feel the exact same way is to

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01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 2: the degree in which I trust anyone and anything in

2328
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 2: this game, I trust him more than I do Gino

2329
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 2: Smith and that putrid offense to go along with the

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01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 2: future defense. I do actually think the Giants get the win.

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01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 2: What it means for the Raiders, I have no idea.

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01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 2: You know, the Raiders. The worst part of the Raiders

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01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 2: there not only bad, they're not interesting, like I do

2334
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 2: think Jackson Dark kind of makes the Giants interesting when

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01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 2: he's not in the tent. The Raiders are just so bad.

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01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 2: And I don't even know that they'll take Fernando Mendoza

2337
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: or I don't know what they'll do, but I have

2338
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 2: to think that I don't know. There's so bad. Let's

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01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 2: get the only other. By the way, this is the

2340
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 2: only other. As Disagred has told you, late afternoon window game,

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Speaker 2: it is Philadelphia at Buffalo. There was thought that Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen might not play in this game, but he is

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01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 2: expected to go. Philadelphia Eagles have of course, clinched the division.

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01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 2: I guess Buffalo technically is still alive in the AFC

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01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 2: East for the division title. They're one game behind New England.

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01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 2: New England is playing the New York Jets in the

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01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 2: early windows, so if they beat the Jets, New England

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Speaker 2: will clinch the AFC East before Buffalo even takes the field.

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Speaker 2: Any strong opinions on what we will see when the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles travel to Buffalo in the late window Sunday.

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Speaker 3: No, this is just exciting. I mean, it's two playoff teams.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how important a game is generally, Like,

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Speaker 3: I do think that the Patriots go ahead and do

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01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 3: what they have to do there, But I think Buffalo

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01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 3: is playing a little bit better right now than is Philadelphia.

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01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 3: Neither one of the teams I'm like super confident about.

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01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 3: But if you're just looking at both teams, I believe

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 3: in Josh Allen more than I believe in anything else

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01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 3: that's happening on that field right now. So I feel like,

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Speaker 3: if all other things are equal, where the defense hasn't

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01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 3: been quite as advertised, certainly for Philadelphia, I think I

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01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 3: like Buffalo to win that game.

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Speaker 2: I do too, four straight, four straight wins for Buffalo,

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01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 2: but I think more importantly, you know, the thing I've

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Speaker 2: said about Buffalo all year, they get up for big games.

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Speaker 2: And you know, they rally against the Patriots a few

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, but they obviously, you know, took care of

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs when the Chiefs was a big game. They

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01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 2: took care of earlier in the year, the Ravens early

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Speaker 2: on first week of the season. So I do think

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01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 2: they get up for big games, and I do think

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Speaker 2: they win interesting game in the Sunday night game because

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Speaker 2: we have the Chicago Bears The Bears officially clinched the

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 2: NFC North on Saturday night with the Packers loss, but

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01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 2: they are still battling for the number one overall seed

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01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. One team that they're battling for positioning

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Speaker 2: with is the San Francisco forty nine Ers. Both teams

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01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 2: eleven and four. Seattle right now at twelve and three

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01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 2: would have the number one seed if they were to

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Speaker 2: win out. What do you think happens Sunday night in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco? Worth noting by the way, if San Francisco

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Speaker 2: wins this game, they play Seattle in Week eighteen, the

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Speaker 2: final Sunday of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is a nice matchup. I feel

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01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 3: good here for San Francisco honestly, like I think that

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01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 3: Chicago's done what they need to do already. The forty

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Speaker 3: nine Ers, this feels like a game where Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 3: can potentially explode. I don't see brock Party having five

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01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 3: touchdowns to this game the way he did in his

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01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 3: last effort, But I think this could be a big

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01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 3: c Mac game, just an all purpose yards kind of game,

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01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 3: and I could see Caleb coming back down to earth

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01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 3: just a hair maybe throwing a couple to the wrong defense,

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01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 3: to Robert Sola's defense. So I like I like San

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Speaker 3: Francisco in this game.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we got to get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, Mary Mack on the board,

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