1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Ramaswami explained why he feels tech companies choose to hire 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: foreign workers over Americans. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: He boiled it all down to quote culture. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: He wrote in part this, our American culture has venerated 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: mediocrity over excellence for way too long. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: That doesn't start in college, it starts young. A culture 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: that celebrates. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: The prom queen over the math or Olympiad champ, or 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the jock over the valedictorian will not produce the best engineers, 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: he continued. Trump's selection hopefully marks the beginning of a 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: new golden era in America, but only if our culture 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: fully wakes up, a culture that once again prioritizes achievement 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: over normalcy, excellence over mediocrity, nerdiness over conformity, and hard 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: work over laziness. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: Juan Maskin revek Ramaswami in this particular case, I think 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: are exactly right. America's ability to attract talent from around 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: the world is basically our economic superpower. The fact that 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: in particular, we've been able to attract high skilled immigrants 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: quite reliably in this country over the past century or 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: so is why we have this enduring leadership in science, tech, 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: and business. So just as an example, of all Fortune 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: five hundred companies, about half of them were founded by 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: immigrants or the children of immigrants. And of the Nobel 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: laureates American nobel laureates who have received prizes for the 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: hard sciences this century, about forty percent of them are 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: immigrants who came. 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 4: To this country. 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 3: So again, this is our superpower, the publican. 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 5: Here, I wonder what your view on this is because 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: this is happening within the Republican Party. I mean, these 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 5: are two top advisors to Trump the MAGA world, who 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: you know, are kind of framing this as the true 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 5: believers who say, you know, we ask for stricter immigration 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 5: policies that didn't mean coming with a car route for 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 5: high skilled workers that they say are taking American jobs here. 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think, with. 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 6: All due respect to mister Musk and Vivek Brown Miswami, 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 6: they should focus on saving federal dollars for the taxpayers 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 6: and not immigration policy. I understand some of the points 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 6: that Catherine made and I agree to an extent, but 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 6: I think the US should focus more on domestic skill developments. 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 6: Studies also show that H one B one exacerbates employers 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 6: hiring individuals from outside of the country when they can 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 6: potentially hire minorities. For an example, which we know there's 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 6: a shortage in the stem fields. There are a significant 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 6: number of Americans who I think would love opportunities if 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 6: they had the proper training and skills to operate in 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 6: those jobs fairly well, so why not start and focus there. 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 6: I'm not of the support or mindset, Caitlin that we 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 6: should let in more than the sixty plus thousand that 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 6: were already let it into the country. Do we have 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 6: some deficits, I certainly understand that point again to what 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 6: Catherine was sort of alluding to, But I think by 54 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 6: focusing on increased domestic skilled development, you can decrease the 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 6: furtherance of those deficits by virtus saying, you know what, 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 6: we're going to spend more of our time, more of 57 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 6: our dollars educating our own citizens to compete for these jobs, 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 6: versus saying, let's increase to one hundred thousand and maybe 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 6: even more for employers to bring in individuals from India, 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 6: which is a predominant country where many of them come from. 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 6: I don't agree with that at all, and I think 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 6: folks in the MAGA world have every right to be 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,279 Speaker 6: angry with Vivec and Elon. 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 7: Musk to say, I agree with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami. 65 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: I think they're pointing. 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 7: Out the reality that we're living, you could say, and 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 7: I hear Shir Michael's point. I disagree with it though, 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 7: because I think it misses the fact that we want 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 7: to get to the place where we can maximize the 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 7: use of our own talent in this country. Let's bring 71 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 7: in the best of briers from all around the world. 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 7: Let's really make our economy stronger. Let's become even more 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 7: tech dominant, the fact, to elevate the whole country and 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 7: to create more opportunity for Americans of all kinds in 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 7: the tech field. So I don't know why on Earth 76 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 7: we wouldn't want to grab all the time on out there, 77 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 7: especially because if we don't, our competitors will. 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: So what are we going to do now? 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 8: That guy in the corner, Jigger's his name, some kind 80 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 8: of war hero shot down five Germans in one day. 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 8: They say he's a natural born stick and runner man, 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 8: expressing the ason man for the Air Force. 83 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 2: I think you know of any problems with him? Only 84 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: one that's right holding him back. 85 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 9: Major Taylor yegger, sir, we were just talking to Slick 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 9: Air about the sound barrier? 87 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: Is that right? And we feel that the X one 88 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: is ready to have a go at it. 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: We think the X one's got the answer to go 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: beyond mock one if there is any being. 91 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 10: So what do you think? Well, I'll tell you what. 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 10: Half these engineers have never been off the ground, you know. 93 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 10: I mean they're aable to tell you that the sound barrier, 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 10: a brick wall in the sky, will rip your ears 95 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 10: off you try to go through it. Ask me, I 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 10: don't believe the damn thing even exists. 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: Interest drink from mister. 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 10: Yeaga here, No thanks for going. 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 4: So do you think you want to have a go 100 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: at it might? 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 11: But since, as you say, this sound barrier doesn't really exist? 102 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: How much how much you got? 103 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 10: I'm just joking. The Air Force is paying me already, 104 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 10: ain't there right, sir? 105 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: Well? Sure, yeah, hear bets. 106 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 10: And when do we go? 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 9: Well, how about tomorrow morning? I'll be there, see there? 108 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 9: How much are you paying? I think it's two hundred 109 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 9: and eighty dollars a week a month. 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: Look, I'm not against legal immigration. 111 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 6: I think most individuals who voted for Trump aren't necessarily 112 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 6: against legal immigration, as we take is to H one B. 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 6: But Americans didn't vote for Direk Ramaswami. They didn't vote 114 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 6: for Elon Musk. They voted for Donald Trump in part 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 6: because of his tough stands on immigration illegally, but also 116 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 6: because I assume they believe that the President elect wouldn't 117 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 6: increase the number of individuals coming into the country even 118 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 6: legally that could potentially negatively impact or disproportionately affect Americans 119 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 6: as it pertains to certain types of jobs. 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: And so again I go back to. 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 6: My original premise, we need to focus on domestic skill development. 122 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 6: I understand what former Mayor de Blasio was saying. We 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 6: got to bring people in with the goal of getting 124 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 6: to that point maybe in the decade. 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: So I get that, But why. 126 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 6: Not limit the cap where it's at and focus over 127 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 6: the next decade of. 128 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: Increasing skills within our own people. 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 6: Most Americans don't want to see good paying American jobs 130 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 6: growing to people from India or China. 131 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, but wait, the competition, the global competition is happening 132 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 7: right now. And if we don't grab that talent, Shemichael, 133 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 7: I hear you. But if you don't grab the talent 134 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 7: now someone else does. And if you really want to 135 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 7: growth to the economy, so you'll have that opportunity for Americans, 136 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 7: why would you leave talent on the table, you know, 137 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 7: grab what you can now and build toward the goal 138 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 7: you're talking about. 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: It's not either or. 140 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: Catherine Funnel word. 141 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 142 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: I would add that there's basically no evidence that bringing 143 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: in high skill talent over the past century has reduced 144 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: employment for Americans. In fact, the opposite, that these are 145 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: complementary jobs, and that they end up creating these high 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: skill set immigrants who come in, whether they're founding Fortune 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: five hundred companies or otherwise, end up creating a lot 148 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: of opportunities for American workers and making American scientists. 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 12: More for. 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: What Americans? 151 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 6: What a minute? 152 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: What Americans? 153 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 6: Because again to the point that I made earlier, we 154 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 6: know that studies suggest that minorities are underrepresented in these fields. 155 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 6: They are a host of other Americans who are underrepresented 156 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 6: in these fields. 157 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: So perhaps they. 158 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 6: Are creating jobs for some Americans, but it's certainly are 159 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 6: Americans that I know are people who look like me, Catherine, 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 6: with all due respect, So. 161 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: Again I'm bohemanly against this. 162 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 6: We're allowing enough of these people to come into. 163 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: The country as is. These are not substitutes. These are compliments. 164 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: These are compliments. These are not substitutes. 165 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: I agree we need to improve the pipeline for underrepresented 166 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: talent in tech. Okay, doesn't mean, you know, kicking out 167 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: all the global talents. 168 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: Well, we've got one Democrat at the table who agrees. 169 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 13: With Look, the President Electrump said that we should provide 170 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 13: a visa or working permit to everybody who graduates from 171 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 13: an American college. I agree, let's do that. I mean, 172 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 13: we have foreign students who come here who study. All 173 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 13: we're doing is subsidizing other countries, and we're forcing them 174 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 13: to go back and not deploy the talents and skills 175 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 13: they got here in our country. I hope he listens 176 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 13: on immigration to people like Elon Musk Vivic Ramaswami, but 177 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 13: also takes into account his desire to reduce grocery prices, 178 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 13: to reduce housing prices if he wants to accomplish that. 179 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 13: Immigrants play such an important role in our economy across 180 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 13: the continuum, across the skills continuum, right from low skills 181 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 13: jobs hard working to high skills jobs. Founders engineers. 182 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: They're really a. 183 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 13: Big part of what makes America as prosperous as we are. 184 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 13: And as your last panel is said, in many ways, 185 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 13: it's our superpower that we have the best and brightest 186 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 13: and hardest working people from across the world that want 187 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 13: to come here and live the American dream and be 188 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 13: part of our banking our country safer, stronger, and wealthier. 189 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 190 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 14: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on 191 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 14: these people. You've not got a free shot on all 192 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 14: these networks lying about the people. 193 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: The people have had a belly full of it. 194 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 4: I know you don't like hearing that. 195 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: I know you've tried to do everything in the world 196 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. 197 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: It's going to happen. And where do people like that 198 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: go to share the big line? Mega media? 199 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 14: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 200 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 14: these people had a conscience. 201 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 202 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 14: If that answer is to save my country, this country 203 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 14: will be saved. 204 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: Worry use your host, Stephen k Van. 205 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 14: It's Friday, twenty seven December in the Year of Our 206 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 14: Lord twenty twenty four. If it was not on your 207 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 14: Bengo card about we'd have a firestorm on one of 208 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 14: the central issues of facing this. 209 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: Country as we try to make America great again. 210 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 14: This situation about our sovereignty and in the correllary to that, immigration, 211 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 14: particularly legal immigration, is what we're talking about. Then you 212 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 14: haven't been paying attention a firestorm in the last forty 213 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 14: eight hours. We're going to break it all down today 214 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 14: and tomorrow as we do kind of two special worm's 215 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 14: going to be fitting in other news too, particularly the 216 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 14: hunt for the Speaker of the House, Ukraine, the Middle East, 217 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 14: the economy. 218 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: Capital markets, all of it. But we got to focus 219 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: on this. 220 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 14: And right there just a series of lies and misrepresentations. 221 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 14: I have been on this topic, folks for I don't know, 222 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 14: twelve years, fourteen years, right, and it was a central 223 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 14: part of the twenty President Trump's rise to power in 224 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 14: twenty fourteen and fifteen and his victory in sixteen. I 225 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 14: was honored to be, along with Stephen Miller and Jared 226 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 14: Kushner in the room with President Trump when on the 227 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 14: twenty fifth floor at Trump Tower came for the first 228 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 14: time in history, all the tech oligarchs, all of them 229 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 14: came to pay homage to then a President Trump after 230 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 14: this incredible come from behind victory in twenty sixteen, and 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 14: Stephen Miller and I had our little notes and we 232 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 14: were all set to go on HB one visas. We 233 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 14: thought that would be it in the room with these guys, 234 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 14: and Elon was right. There was a meeting put together 235 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 14: by Peter Teel HB one Visas kind of took second 236 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 14: or third place. The central issue they wanted to talk 237 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 14: about was guess what the Chinese Communist Party. Although most 238 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 14: of them were cow telling to the Chinese Commists Party 239 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 14: and trying to figure out how to have a rap 240 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 14: pro chman and to work with these demons. 241 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: They were pretty upset. 242 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 14: They were pretty upfront about how their intellectual property was 243 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 14: being just stolen right in front of them to their face, 244 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 14: and that Obama's administration and previous administrations hadn't done anything 245 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 14: about it, had not done anything about it. Okay, here's 246 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 14: how we're going to break it down. We've got Mark 247 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 14: Koran from the Center of Immigration Studies, I think one 248 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 14: of the top experts of not the top expert in 249 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 14: the country on this HB one visus plus other reports 250 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 14: about foreign labor taking away American jobs. Because everything you 251 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 14: just heard right there in pro HB one visas are 252 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 14: bald faced lies. And I come with this, folks. I 253 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 14: didn't come to this in the last forty hours. Been 254 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 14: working on this one for ten twelve years. It's absolutely outrageous. 255 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 14: American jobs for American citizen workers. 256 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: This is a scam, a total scam. And if we've 257 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: got to have a throwdown, let's have it now. 258 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 14: Like Frankie frank pantationialist and pantagisss in The Godfather, Let's hit. 259 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: Him now while we're strong. 260 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 14: We got Jack Bosova, Rahem Cassam, d Gavin Wax, Marca Corey, 261 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 14: and Laura Lumer, Rosemary Jenks, Darren Beattie. Yep, that is 262 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 14: the twenty seven Yankees right there. We're gonna take a 263 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 14: short commercial break. It's quite appropriate. Johnny Kahn from Breitbart. 264 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 14: One of Andrews's favorite songs, American Heart, the great anthem 265 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 14: of the Tea Party, the precursor to the Trump Revolution. 266 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 14: We're gonna take a short commercial break. We're gonna be 267 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 14: back as we kind of get down into the to 268 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 14: the basics about the right stuff, what it took to 269 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 14: make America great, and what it's gonna take to return 270 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 14: the United States of America and her citizens to their 271 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 14: former greatness. 272 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 15: Short break America America as again. 273 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 14: I'm also for big restrictions on legal immigration until until 274 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 14: Silicon Valley, until these places have I don't know, twenty 275 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 14: percent African American and twenty percent Hispanic and kids that 276 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 14: can go to college, and every college you go to, 277 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 14: every engineering school you go to is flooded with foreign 278 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 14: students taking American jobs. I don't agree with that. American 279 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 14: jobs should be for American cent's. President Trump and I 280 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 14: actually disagree with it. President Trump said a couple of 281 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 14: months ago, he said, hey, uh, you know, on every 282 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 14: every college graduate, right and every graduate of a of 283 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 14: a community college should have a should have a green card. 284 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: Staple to the diploma. I remember he said this. 285 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 14: This is after he came back from having dinner with 286 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 14: David Sachson, these billionaires out and the tech bionaires in 287 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 14: San Francisco. He said, every graduate foreign student graduate and 288 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 14: every graduate foreign student graduate from community college should have 289 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 14: a green card attached to diploma. 290 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: I said President Trump on the show. I said, we 291 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: have tremendous respect for you. We'd love you your base. 292 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: But I've got another recommendation. 293 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 14: I'd like to put an exit visa on every college graduate, 294 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 14: foreign student that graduate from college here in thirty days 295 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 14: to leave and go back home and help make their 296 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 14: nation great again. And we shouldn't take any foreign students 297 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 14: and community colleges. 298 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: That should be. 299 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 14: That should be, that should be for American citizens, particularly 300 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 14: for African Americans in Hispanics. You're never going to get 301 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 14: they're never going to get up the economic chain unless 302 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 14: we do this. This whole thing about oh we want 303 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 14: to get all this and their only geniuses, that's h 304 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 14: one B visas. 305 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: That's not what it's about. 306 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 14: It's about taking American jobs and bringing over essential I 307 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 14: become indentured servants at lower wages. Like I told those 308 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 14: guys room, Hey, if you got an Einstein every twenty 309 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 14: five years, come to us. Maybe we can make an 310 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 14: exception for Einstein. Maybe if it's proven the whole thing's 311 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 14: a scam. The things scam by the Ola Garks and 312 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 14: Silicon Valley to basically take jobs American citizens give them 313 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 14: to what become indentured servants from foreign countries and then 314 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 14: pay them less simple to let them into the to 315 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 14: the to the through the golden door. Gavin wax I 316 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 14: gave that interview to kind of kicked this thing off. 317 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 14: I think it's your gala a week or so ago 318 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 14: that went viral. It was from the Free Press, Barry Weiss, 319 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 14: the Great Free Press. You've been on fire, brother, You're 320 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 14: like one of the you know, you're like one of 321 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 14: the you like Socrates and Athens. I mean, you've been 322 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 14: on fire the last twenty four to forty eight hours 323 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 14: on this very topic. Tell me, what are we actually 324 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 14: talking about? What is the real story here, Gavin, Well, we're. 325 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: Talking about the heart of the MAGA movement. We're talking 326 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 4: about the very core of President Trump's mandate, and it 327 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: is migration, both illegal and legal. And what we've seen 328 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: has been a completely ridiculous shift from any people, including 329 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 4: Vivek Ramaswami, who ran on a campaign of ending the 330 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: H one bat racket, all of a sudden turn a 331 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: new leaf attack American culture, attack Americans, calling them lazy, 332 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: calling them uneducated, calling them in capable of filling these jobs, 333 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 4: when reality, as you mentioned in the open H one 334 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 4: B is a scheme by these big tech companies for 335 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 4: indentured servants. They bring over not the best in the brightest. 336 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: They're bringing over entry level positions, middle level positions to 337 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: fill their companies. They're paying pennies on the dollar. They're 338 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: abusing these workers, giving them little to no benefits. They 339 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: can fire them at any time and send them back home. 340 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: It's basically modern indentured servitude. And in the meantime, we're 341 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: losing hundreds of thousands of what used to be good paying, 342 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: middle class or entry level jobs for Americans, young Americans 343 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: of all stripes and all backgrounds. It's absolutely disgusting. It's 344 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 4: an insult to the American people, and it needs to end. 345 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 4: And I think they open the floodgates yesterday on X 346 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: with comments from any of these tech executives that showed 347 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: their other disdain for the American people, for the heartland, 348 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: for our culture. And this was really turning into a 349 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: class debate. It was turning into what you mentioned, elites 350 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 4: versus the people, elites versus the populists. And they couldn't 351 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: argue on the merits because at the end of the day, 352 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: they simply don't want to pay American wages for American jobs. 353 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 4: They want to pay Indian wages for Indian workers in 354 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: American jobs, and that's grace. 355 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 14: By the way, I'm one of the biggest proponents of India. 356 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 14: I'm still the acting or interim chairman of the Hindu 357 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 14: Republican Association. 358 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 2: I have the greatest respect on the world. 359 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 14: For Modi and Mody is all about making his country great. 360 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 14: He's probably the greatest nationalist on the world stage today. 361 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 14: But I want to get back in a second. We 362 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 14: come back to you in Pasobic about this jack culture 363 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 14: versus Valdictorian culture. 364 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: I got news for the fac The reason. 365 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 14: In the United States is the United States is because 366 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 14: of that the can new attitude of the right stuff, 367 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 14: and that is what is we call jock culture that 368 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 14: was personified in that incredible, incredible movie Come Back, and 369 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 14: I say you just hang right there. 370 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: I want to bring Corcoran in because he knows the facts. 371 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 14: Coacoryin Mark correct me if I'm wrong, and if if 372 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 14: my team can throw up the Guardian story I sent 373 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 14: this morning. There's a Guardian story in April of seventeen 374 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 14: that we finally got an executive order signed. And that's 375 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 14: after three or four months of working every day on 376 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 14: this thing by President Trump. But that executive order kind 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 14: of set us in the right direction, but never actually 378 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 14: got Executo give us the history just from the Trump 379 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 14: era of the H one B visa and why this 380 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 14: is still an issue today, because I thought we'd put 381 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 14: this thing to bed, because here's my point. I won 382 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 14: zero when I was at Breitbart, we covered the story 383 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 14: and of the Disney workers in Orlando that had to 384 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 14: train the H one B visa folks coming in to 385 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 14: take their jobs, and that thing would viral. It's one 386 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 14: of the reasons President Trump won the Republican primary twenty sixteen, 387 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 14: and one of the major reasons he was president of 388 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 14: these United States. Marco Korean from cis. 389 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 12: Well, the place you got to start is that we 390 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 12: the H one B visas are supposedly temporary for skilled workers. 391 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 12: The problem is we give them out by lottery. In 392 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 12: other words, they're numerically capped. There's a certain eighty five 393 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 12: thousand of them a year, but we give them out 394 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 12: randomly to people who submit. We get thousands of applications, 395 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 12: and so what you end up with is a lot 396 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 12: of mediocre talents. What President Trump did in that executive 397 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 12: order that you had worked on was to say, okay, 398 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 12: fellas and DHS come up with a regulation that gives 399 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 12: them out, gives the visas out based on the highest 400 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 12: salary first, in other words, the people that actually the 401 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 12: companies say they value by offering them the most uh 402 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 12: that set that there was a It sat in DHS 403 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 12: for a long time. They were debating whether they were 404 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 12: allowed to do this by law. Then they wrote the 405 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 12: regulation and it just sat in the White House because 406 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 12: regulations have to be approved within the Office of Management 407 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 12: and Budget. And you were there, not me, but as 408 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 12: I understand it, people in the White House sat on 409 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 12: that thing. It was finally they finally pulled the trigger 410 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 12: on it, like a month before the end of the administration. 411 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 12: And what happened is is Biden just canceled the thing. 412 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 12: So this obvious rule that would wipe out these companies 413 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 12: that were, you know, used like Disney visas never happened, 414 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 12: and it still hasn't happened. 415 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 14: This was even a compromise inside the White House at 416 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 14: first for folks like myself, the hardliner said, just the 417 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 14: way the entire program, there's. 418 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: Other programs out there. 419 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 14: If Einstein, if Einstein comes around, if Einstein comes around. 420 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: You know, maybe we'll fit in. 421 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 14: But I am this is to me the people that say, oh, 422 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 14: we got to suck up the best and the brightest 423 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 14: from the world, I said, that's like imperialism. That's imperialism 424 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 14: because we have to allow and help these countries make 425 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 14: them themselves great or you're going to have a world 426 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 14: on fire. One of the problems you got all the 427 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 14: capital and all the talent go to certain nodes, right, 428 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 14: and the oligarch's feet off that use these people as 429 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 14: indentured servants. But even then, even then, agreeing to the 430 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 14: meritocracy point, President Trump pushed that when President Trump looked around, 431 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 14: because remember he's flying sixty. 432 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: Thousand feet because he's running the freaking world. 433 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 14: When he found out it wasn't done after the election, 434 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 14: he said, what in the hell? And that's why in 435 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 14: December twenty twenty, And folks, you remember this show in 436 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 14: December twenty twenty, it was called warrem impeachment, and we 437 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 14: were no. It was basically warwom But that was the 438 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 14: firestorm of the election, of the standing of the election. 439 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 14: The pandemic was still there. President Trump had a couple 440 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 14: of three things in his mind. But realize this has 441 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 14: never been implemented. Mark, and that's why he said, get 442 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 14: this thing done. I don't know how this thing got 443 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 14: held up. And this is the thing about the people 444 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 14: not just in White House with DHS and the administration, 445 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 14: the administrative and deep state that don't want any changes, 446 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 14: and they report to the easy money over lords on 447 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 14: Wall Street and the tech oligarchs. 448 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: Krekorian, Yeah, you know, I think you're showing right. 449 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 12: Stuff is actually a useful example because who helped with 450 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 12: our rocket program. It was German scientists, and so that's 451 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 12: a real thing there. But we had a program to 452 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 12: bring German scientists here to help with that stuff fifteen years. 453 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 12: Over fifteen years, you know how many people we brought here. 454 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 12: One six hundred people, a little more than one hundred 455 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 12: a year. That kind of tech immigration is actually something 456 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 12: that everybody's for. But what we're not, that's nothing like 457 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 12: what we're doing now. We're doing man as foreignization of 458 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 12: our tech industries, and that's not it's bad for American workers, 459 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 12: and it's also bad for American security because this is 460 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 12: an essential national security area broadly, the whole tech area, 461 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 12: and we're you know, bringing we're relying on foreign sources 462 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 12: of talent instead of growing our own talent. There's really 463 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 12: no excuse for it. 464 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: It's no excuse for it. 465 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 14: The reason they want to do it is they want 466 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 14: to bring over indentured servants that don't have the rights 467 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 14: of Americans, that want to bring them over here at 468 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 14: lower wages, and they fire American citizens. And my whole 469 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 14: point if these engineers, the rot is in the engineering schools. 470 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 14: Here's instead of taking American citizens, African Americans, Hispanics, white 471 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 14: working class into these engineering schools who are paying the 472 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 14: particular the land grant universities like schools I went to 473 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 14: where they paying the state tuition, they take the foreign 474 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 14: students because the foreign governments of pay in full freight. 475 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 14: This is because these deadbeat professors right and in their 476 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 14: retirement program, their tenure, that's the paying for it. 477 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: That's the gap. The whole thing, the entire. 478 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 14: Thing, from top to bottom is a total scam, a 479 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 14: total scam. 480 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the right stuff. Kacroyan brought in 481 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 2: hanger a second mark. 482 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 14: We'll go to break you brought up a project paper clip. 483 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a live fire exercise right there. 484 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 14: Jack Psoba, Gavin Wax Raheem Cassam, mark A Coryan on 485 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 14: a Friday in late December twenty twenty four in the 486 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 14: warm room back in a moment. 487 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 15: In take nine. 488 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: Today, use your who Stephen k. 489 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 14: Okay, we got Marco Coran for the Center for Immigration Studies. 490 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: He is the best, in the brightest. 491 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 14: We've got Gavin Wax, the Gavin Wax ra Hugo, Sam 492 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 14: is on deck on Jeryce moment. I got Posto and Jack. 493 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 14: Thanks so much for doing this taking time away from 494 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 14: the family. I know you're trying to take a couple 495 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 14: of days off. You've got a great, great New Day 496 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 14: podcast on MAGA off. Okay, I love. We'll talk about 497 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 14: that for a second. This is a firefight. I want 498 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 14: your assessment, particularly the right stuff of what really made 499 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 14: America great, because that's what that's what magg is about. 500 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: Is the right stuff. 501 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 14: And also, I hate to bring a source subject to 502 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 14: you and Darren Beattie because you're fanboys, the free speech absolutists. 503 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 14: I don't know, man, So tell me give me the 504 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 14: right stuff post So first, and then we'll talk about 505 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 14: free speech absolutism. 506 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 11: Well, Steve, let me just say this, this isn't a firefight. 507 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 11: I saw Axios this morning describing it as a civil 508 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 11: war stuff fight. This isn't a civil war. This is 509 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 11: a clarification. We are clarifying a few things. What does 510 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 11: America First actually mean? Does America first mean something based 511 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 11: on I don't know, spreadsheets. Does it mean an abstract 512 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 11: number that people can pluck out of some study. No, no, no, 513 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 11: absolutely not. America First means the American people first. I 514 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 11: want to be very clear about that, because it seems 515 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 11: like some people still do not get this, even after 516 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 11: all these years. America First means the American people first. 517 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 11: We are not vaccine first. We are not tech company first, 518 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 11: we are not military industrial complex first. 519 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: No, we are American people first. 520 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 11: That is what the nationalist populist movement underpinning MAGA is 521 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 11: all about. All right, So make sure you understand that 522 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 11: if you want to come to the party, if you 523 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 11: want to walk in the door, just understand in where 524 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 11: you're coming in that. If you come over here and 525 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 11: try to tell us America first means something else, at 526 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 11: your wrong. And look, you know, going back to what 527 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 11: makes America America? America is made by the pioneers. America 528 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 11: was made by the adventurers. America was Neil Armstrong. America 529 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 11: was the wild West. America was settling. Here's a couple 530 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 11: of words for you, manifest destiny. Yeah, we are going 531 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 11: to talk manifest Testy. We talk Greenland, we can talk Panama. 532 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 11: Let's talk Canada too while we're at it. We'll talk 533 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 11: all of it. But understand something that this is the 534 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 11: country of adventurers, of explorers, of pioneers, which, by the way, 535 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 11: that pioneering includes pushing out into space. And that's why 536 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 11: so many people have been supportive of SpaceX and Elon 537 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 11: Musk and so many other things. But at the bottom 538 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 11: line is we are not going to lose sight of 539 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 11: the American people that we are fighting for. The MAGA 540 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 11: movement would not exist without the immigration debate, period full stop. 541 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 11: If the immigration debate did not exist, then you could 542 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 11: have President Jeb Bush. And I think maybe some of 543 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 11: these guys would be totally fine with President Jeb Bush. 544 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 11: You know, it's interesting, Steve, to me, by the way 545 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 11: that the CEOs and the Marxists seem to have the 546 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 11: exact same immigration policy. I wonder why that is. I 547 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 11: wonder why that could be. It's very strange to me. 548 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 11: But look, this is about the people who have fought 549 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 11: for this land, who have died for this land, who 550 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 11: have gone overseas, who have been lied to in some 551 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 11: cases like the global war and terror. But the people 552 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 11: who actually have bones in the ground here and fought 553 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 11: for this country. That's what it's about. And so any 554 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 11: and by the way, we are the most welcoming country 555 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 11: in the world. We're the most charitable country in the world. 556 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 11: But don't sit there and tell me that we can't 557 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 11: see if we can't be importing cheap labor from overseas, 558 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 11: because it ain't true, and it never was. 559 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 14: I just want to give a little bit of precision 560 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 14: that it was a great, great rift there. It's American 561 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 14: citizens first, just like in the Roman Republic. It's citizenship. Yes, 562 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 14: you're an American citizen. You get a specialty, you get 563 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 14: a special deal. You not treat it like garbage, like 564 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 14: Biden said, or like the tech ol of garks want 565 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 14: to treat you like garbage. Remember what happened in Disney, Well, 566 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 14: remember it happens all these things. And this is a 567 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 14: whole baldfaced lie. Oh we need the we need the 568 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 14: Einstein's yo. If Einstein shows up somehow, just like Van 569 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 14: or von Braun, give me the rockets. We'll figure out 570 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 14: the CIA will work on Project paper Clip Deuce to 571 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 14: get that guy in here. 572 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: It has nothing to. 573 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 14: Do with that. That is a total scam. And Raheem 574 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 14: and will Upton over at National Polson a magnificent peace 575 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 14: on that. Cokorin's got some other stuff about mercle. We 576 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 14: want to get to a second, but Gavin, I want 577 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 14: to get to this Jack culture versus Valictorian culture. 578 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: Valictorian culture. Dude, we tried that. 579 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 14: That's where these these these weirdos, and that's where there's 580 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 14: a collection of weirdos right from Silicon Valley right tried 581 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 14: to run the country into Biden's saying they've they've had 582 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 14: at it for four years. They got old time religion 583 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 14: with Trump because they saw the tectonic plate shift and 584 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 14: they converted or quasi converted, and. 585 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: That we love we love converts. 586 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 14: We love converts, but like any convert, you kind of 587 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 14: want them sitting in the back couple of aisles to 588 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 14: make sure this conversion actually takes They don't come up 589 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 14: and lead the uh, they don't come up and lead 590 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 14: the congregation in the first week Gavin Wax, what is 591 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 14: your big problem with Vivek's valedictorian culture versus Jack culture? 592 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: Sir, well, listen. It was a total masks off moment 593 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 4: for Vivek. He wasn't talking about the substance of H 594 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 4: one B. He wasn't talking about how it's a scheme 595 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: to bring over, you know, twenty thousand dollars a year 596 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: cooks or thirty thousand dollars a year plumbers. He tried 597 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: to deflect the entire thing and ridicule American culture, American children, 598 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: how they're raised, how they're brought up, talking about you know, 599 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 4: free time, talking about hobbies, talking about sleepovers, talking about 600 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: popular sitcoms from the nineties. It was a very angry screed. 601 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: It was completely anti American and it's nature. It's a 602 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: complete shift from the guy that you know, put on 603 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 4: a cowboy hat and or an American flag vest on 604 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: the campaign trail and just screams of a phoniness and 605 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: this condescending arrogance that's prevalent among these tech oligarchs and 606 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: their allies and politics such as Vivek. I mean, American 607 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: culture does not need to be fixed. That's our largest 608 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: export is American culture. That's our greatest value is our culture, 609 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 4: our freedoms, and the way that we are brought up 610 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: in an environment where you can be creative, where you 611 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: could be dynamic, where you can have fun, where you 612 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: can have a life. You know, we don't need to 613 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 4: imitate the East and these tiger moms and this insane, utilitarian, 614 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 4: soulless culture where everyone's just focused from the moment they're 615 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: born to increase shareholder value or to pump up the 616 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: GDP on the margins and to increase productivity. That's not 617 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: what drives innovation. Innovation that gave birth to Silicon Valley, 618 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: that gave birth to the American tech industry was created 619 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: out of American generations who grew up, you know, and 620 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: the Hippie movement and grew up, you know, loving all 621 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: these different fasts of the American culture, American suburban culture. 622 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: It did not get born in an Indian slum. It 623 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: didn't get born in a tenement in a communist block 624 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 4: tenement outside Beijing. It got born in California during you know, 625 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: the height of Pax Americana. And that's what we need 626 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 4: to return to. We need to return to America looking 627 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 4: like a John Hughes movie and not looking like some 628 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: dystopian hellscape future over you know, ruled over by technocrats 629 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 4: who are bringing in a new underclass of American slave laborers, 630 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: who are bringing down our wages, who are bringing down 631 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: our cost of living or quality of living, and driving 632 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 4: up our cost of living. Meanwhile giving an entire new 633 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 4: voting block to the Marxists like Bill de Blasio who 634 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: want to send this country even further down the path 635 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 4: of third world. Is so Vivek has a totally upside down, 636 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: totally wrong. It makes everyone question what whatever he was 637 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 4: saying on the campaign trail, if it was true, if 638 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 4: it was it was not true, if it was wrong, 639 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 4: if he was being legitimate. But again, don't let them 640 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: gaslight you don't let them lie in smear Americans. This 641 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with bringing the cream of the crop, 642 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 4: top tier talent. They're bringing in plumbers, they're bringing in cooks. 643 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: They're hiring people for sixty thousand dollars entry level jobs 644 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 4: that should be going to young Americans. They're hiring people 645 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: from middle management jobs at one hundred thousand that should 646 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: be going for three hundred thousand. Whatever it may be 647 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: undercutting Americans. If you want the top talent, you get 648 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: the one visa that's going to bring in the Einsteins. Okay, 649 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 4: and we can bring those people in. We can bring 650 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 4: in fifteen hundred over fifteen years, like Operation paper Clip. 651 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 4: It's honestly incredible that the these tech pros are now, 652 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 4: you know, the biggest advocates of bringing over Nazi scientists. 653 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 4: I ever thought i'd see the day, But listen, this 654 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 4: is an issue that is again the core of the 655 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 4: MAGA agenda, and we're going after it hard. We need 656 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 4: to push back on it hard because if they win, 657 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 4: we lose. 658 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 14: And Gavin, you've been pushing back card, just hang on 659 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 14: for a second because I want to get to this 660 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 14: whole thing about shutting you guys down. 661 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: And Laura Lumer is going to join us in the 662 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: in the next hour. 663 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 14: This whole thing, though, even at the Einstein's, you gotta 664 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 14: be very careful. This is this imperialistic mindset that we 665 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 14: don't need, you know, this whole thing. You've got to 666 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 14: take every best in bryce throughout the world. They got 667 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 14: to be here. If you do that, the world's going 668 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 14: to be a bigger nightmare and we're going to have 669 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 14: it's going to be an absoluence a hang one second corecorium. 670 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 14: Just walk me through H one B VISs plus these 671 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 14: new reports you've got out, you're you're the best guy 672 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 14: to actually say how the how the corporatis and the 673 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 14: tech oligarchs and the lords of easy money on Wall Street. 674 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 14: One of their biggest focus is this to make sure 675 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 14: Americans don't have jobs right because they think Americans demand 676 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 14: too many high wages, so they want to bring him 677 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 14: the rest of the world to compete with them, sir. 678 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 12: Well, so they're using immigration basically to discipline Americans and 679 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 12: not be up aty and not ask for high wages. 680 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 12: And it actually starts well before you get to H 681 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 12: one b's. It starts by the mass admission of foreign 682 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 12: students and universities, which is unlimited. There are no numerical 683 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 12: caps on that. And then when they graduate, if they 684 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 12: graduated in a STEM field science and tech, they at 685 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 12: three years of a supposed internship, so they're basically masquerading 686 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 12: as students on a student visa when they're actually just 687 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 12: foreign workers trying to get an H one B visa, 688 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 12: and then they spend the whole time on an H 689 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 12: one b visa, which is temporary, supposedly trying to get 690 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 12: a green card. So really to deal with this, you 691 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 12: need to go upstream and limit the admission of foreign students, 692 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 12: especially in these sensitive fields, but really, frankly in any field, 693 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 12: because otherwise you end up putting in setting in place. 694 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 12: But this pipeline that ends up displacing Americans, they still 695 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 12: get jobs. It's not like this increases the unemployment rate. 696 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 12: What it does is push Americans into other fields, so 697 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 12: they become lawyers or accountants or something else, which are 698 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 12: perfectly honorable things to do. But we need to be 699 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 12: growing domestic tech talent, which we did. For instance, after 700 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 12: Sputnik in the late fifties, the Russians set up the 701 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 12: first satellite, we all freaked out. Schools went big, big 702 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 12: into tech education in elementary school, high school, college, and 703 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 12: the result was, along with a little dash of Werner 704 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 12: von Braun was landing on the moon. That's the model 705 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 12: we need to follow us a little bit of a 706 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 12: handful of genuine Einstein's, but helping out a broad, domestically 707 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 12: developed workforce. 708 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: Real quickly. 709 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 14: Just hit that as one point one million foreign students, 710 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 14: and you know, I don't mind people maybe come over 711 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 14: some limited bases of college, but then immediately they got 712 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 14: to leave to just talk about the scam when they 713 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 14: come the one they're shoving people out because they're not 714 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 14: getting training. 715 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: These folks never leave, Mark. 716 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 12: Yeah, they don't. I mean for a lot of people now, 717 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 12: people from developed countries generally speaking, do go back. If 718 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 12: you know, we're getting students from England or Japan or Korea, 719 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 12: but especially those from India and China use foreign students 720 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 12: bea being a foreign student as a way to live 721 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 12: here permanently. And you know they are even though they're 722 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 12: paying full freight, they're still subsidized because universities don't have 723 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 12: to pay taxes. They're subsidized by the taxpayer, even if 724 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 12: they're private universities. 725 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 4: And that's a resource. 726 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 12: Training at our top universities is a is a vital resource. 727 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 12: And what we're doing is we are devoting that resource 728 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 12: to people from overseas instead of developing our own talent. 729 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,479 Speaker 2: And we've got plenty of it. 730 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 14: Here, Mark, Real quickly, where do people go to get 731 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 14: these new report You're you guys are putting out the 732 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 14: best information. Still where they go because this is gonna 733 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 14: this is this is just the top of the first 734 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 14: inning on this issue. 735 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 12: We're online at c I S dot o RG Center 736 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 12: for Immigration Studies CIS dot org and if people who 737 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 12: like snark and sarcasm can find me on Twitter. It's 738 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 12: spelled X pronounced twitter uh at Mark s as in 739 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 12: Stephen Mark Skricorian. 740 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 14: Brother, you're the best, Todd Bensman, Mark Koran Brother, Arthur 741 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 14: over there, just fantastic, Okay, short break. Gavin's gonna stick 742 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 14: with us? We got posso x pronounced Twitter. I don't know, man, 743 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 14: free speech, absolutism? 744 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: Is it a real thing? 745 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 14: We're asked Gavin Wax, Jack Bosoba, Graheem, Sam's gonna joyus? 746 00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: Lard Loomer all next in the war room, Stephen k ban. 747 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 14: So while Draino was dropped by the war room, we're 748 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 14: going to hit DC on in a moment with Gavin Wax, 749 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 14: Jack Pisobic. I guess it's Jack day, Jack Pisobic, your thoughts. 750 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 14: I want to get to this what's happening over at 751 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 14: Twitter formerly known as X to suppress the voices of 752 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 14: Gavin Wax and Laura Lumer and d C. 753 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 2: Dreiner and yourself, sir, what's going on? 754 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I would love to know what's going on, 755 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 11: because I was told that Twitter was the free speech 756 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 11: arm of the free speech Party. 757 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: I was told that Twitter was PvP. Let's have that 758 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: at Box Popular Live Box Day, Vox popul Live Box Day. 759 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 11: And then all of a sudden, you know, people are 760 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 11: posting polls, people are posting stats, people are going back 761 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 11: and forth, they're having the dialogue, they're having it out. Yeah, 762 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 11: it gets a little heated, of course, it gets a 763 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 11: little heated. But we were told that was the point. 764 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 11: And now all of a sudden, it feels like there's 765 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 11: a rug pulling operation going on, kind of like the 766 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 11: Hawk too, a girl with their a little hocto. 767 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: A going down there, and suddenly it's like, oh, whoa, whoa. No, 768 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 2: not for you guys, No, not for you guys. You 769 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 2: guys getting people get losing their check marks. 770 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 11: Owen Schroyer too, by the way, from the Great Info 771 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 11: Wars the other war room out there, and also losing 772 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 11: his blue check and people trying to figure out what's 773 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 11: going on. How is this all happening at the same time, 774 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 11: And it's if it's predicated on its H one B 775 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 11: situation that I'd really like to know why because I 776 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 11: see China. 777 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 2: They say, Oh, we're losing to China. We're losing. 778 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 11: Guess what, China ain't migrating all of these tech workers in. 779 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 11: They're just doing it by building up their own people 780 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 11: and then bringing some temporary professors over from the US. 781 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: And yeah, they're stealing, and of course they are. 782 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 11: But you know what, Hijinping knows that if he starts 783 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 11: screwing over the Chinese people on MAS, he's going to 784 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 11: be the first one that gets strung up. And by 785 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 11: the way, this whole idea of you know, the nerds 786 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 11: versus the valedictorians and the jocks and all this. Look, look, 787 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 11: we turned the entire country over to the Valedictorians during COVID. 788 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 11: We tried rule by nerd. It was not good, to 789 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 11: say the least, it was horrific. It was a catastrophic failure. 790 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 11: COVID is all of the argument, the test, the experiment 791 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 11: has been run. It was a devastating failure. So please 792 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 11: don't sit there and tell me that this is how 793 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 11: we have to reorient American culture. And by the way, 794 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 11: by the way, you know who did really well during COVID, 795 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 11: the bodybuilders, the jocks, the jim rats. 796 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: Those guys did great. 797 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 14: Yeah, because they stood up and said they're not going 798 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 14: to close down the gym. It's not going to wear 799 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 14: these masks. Hang on one second. By the way, you 800 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 14: think it's turbulent the last couple of days, this is 801 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 14: going to get a lot more heated, I think, and 802 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 14: a lot more turbulent. Particularly look at Capitol Markets, birch 803 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 14: Gold dot com, the end of the dollar Empire, virschel 804 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 14: dot com, slash Bannon, get the modern monetary theory. We're 805 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 14: gonna get your smart on h one B visas and 806 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 14: all the immigration scams they try to run, but also 807 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 14: the monetary scams, modern monetary theory, the idea that broke 808 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 14: the world because we got three hundred trillion dollars of 809 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 14: global debt and we're about to have a big margin. 810 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 14: Call folks, you're going to be ringside for that, and 811 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 14: you're gonna be the smartest guy in the room. Gavin 812 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 14: Wax this whole Uh, how does this How do we 813 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 14: take this since they're suppressing your guys' voices, how do 814 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 14: we move this conversation forward to tell folks we've had 815 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 14: rule by nerd. 816 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: We're not going back there. 817 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 14: America is based upon the right stuff and the superpower. 818 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 14: The young woman at the beginning of the col opens wrong. 819 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 14: Our superpower are American citizens. They're the ones who have, 820 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 14: for every patriot's grave back to the beginning of the Revolution, 821 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 14: have fought for this country, stood up for this country, 822 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 14: and bequeath this country to us. 823 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 4: Brother Wax, Yeah, listen, I mean you're right on the 824 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 4: nose there, Steve. We are a country, after all, we 825 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 4: are a nation, we are a people. We're not just 826 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 4: an economic zone. We're not just a place that you 827 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 4: could extract wealth from and send it back home. This 828 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 4: is a place that's built up by families, communities, neighborhoods, towns, states, 829 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 4: and these are real people. And what has happened over 830 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 4: the last two decades, the last generation or so, is 831 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 4: we've opened our borders. We've flooded this country with illegal 832 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 4: and legal migrants, suppressing our wages. We've flooded this country 833 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 4: with drugs, with opiates. We've sent tons of jobs, good 834 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 4: middle class, working class jobs overseas. Then we told everyone 835 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 4: in these small towns, these forgotten towns. I'm here in 836 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 4: Western PA right now. Tons of towns around here that 837 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 4: have been left behind by the federal government. We told 838 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: these same people, hey, why don't you go learn to code, 839 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 4: Why don't you learn to program that'll get you a job. 840 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 4: Get off your lazy ass and go do some work. 841 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 4: They go into the stem, they go learn, they go 842 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 4: get in tons of debts to get these degrees. They 843 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 4: expect a well paying job waiting for them on the 844 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 4: other side, and what do they get. Instead, they're at 845 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 4: best training their replacement before they get fired, or they're 846 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 4: basically told no, we're not going to hire you. And 847 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 4: that's also under this nexus of DEI, which is completely 848 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: taken over the entire HR industry in this country. And 849 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 4: they are basically telling people, no, you're not going to 850 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 4: be getting these jobs. If you're a white male, you're 851 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 4: not going to be getting these jobs. If you're a 852 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 4: native born American, you're not going to be getting these jobs. 853 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 4: If you expect a decent wage, you're only going to 854 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 4: be getting these jobs if you're working eighty hours a 855 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 4: week for forty hours of pay. It's an incredible slogan 856 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 4: that they're advertising, but that is what it is. It 857 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 4: looks like someone's calling the house, so I'll leave it 858 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 4: at that. 859 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 2: Gavin social media, where do people follow you today? Before 860 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 2: you kicked off Twitter? How do people get to you? 861 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not kicked off, yeah, thankfully, but I did 862 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 4: lose my blue check. It's very very weird. I've been 863 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 4: paying and supporting X since Elon took over. I've been 864 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 4: generally very much a fan of Elon, So what's happened 865 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 4: in recent days is very concerning, to say the least. 866 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 4: I think it just goes to show we've really struck 867 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 4: a nerve with this. But you could follow me at 868 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 4: Gavin wax On on X formerly known as Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, 869 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: all the rest. I'm putting out a lot of content 870 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 4: about this. I'm going to be doing an article very 871 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 4: soon for the National Pulse and Raheem Kassam talking about 872 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 4: this H one B racket, talking about the student visa racket, 873 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 4: talking about how legal quote unquote legal mass migration is 874 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 4: just as horrible for this country in our future as 875 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 4: the illegal immigration. It's two sides of the same coin. 876 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 4: So we got to tackle it. We got to push back. 877 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 4: This is the mandate for MAGA and we can't surrender it. 878 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 14: This is the great realignment of that could be like 879 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 14: nineteen thirty two. That's you have many people and not 880 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 14: be on our side. Before are on a side, and 881 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 14: then you've got people that may be on our side 882 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 14: but are really. 883 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 2: Not on our side. You got to sort all out. 884 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: He's lost the blue check, but he's still special. 885 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we got to bring in these unions. I mean, 886 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 4: they know what they're talking about. We need good middle class, 887 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 4: working class jobs that you could support a family on, 888 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 4: you can own a house on on a single income. 889 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 4: You don't have to get tons of degrees. You don't 890 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 4: have to compete with the world. These are American jobs. 891 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 4: They should only be competed for by other Americans. And 892 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 4: this is our nation, this is our future, and we 893 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 4: shouldn't surrender it for hundreds of thousands of honestly fraud 894 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 4: because what they're doing in India, it's fake degrees from 895 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 4: fake schools. They're coming over here, they're getting on the 896 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 4: job training, and they're strewing over Americans coming from the 897 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 4: top school. So it's not a matter of merit, it's 898 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 4: a matter of shootening wages. 899 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 14: Yeah, thank you, brother, appreciate you. Some of the i 900 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 14: and some of the schools are pretty good. But we'll 901 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 14: get into all that in the second hour. But remember 902 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 14: the superpower of the United States. 903 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 4: What is it. 904 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: It's the American citizen. It's the backbone of our civic society. 905 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 14: The little platoons, and guess what, they're pretty damn good 906 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 14: going to get you through some tight spots. Oligarchs, the 907 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 14: nerds in Silicon Valley should learn that what they're drafting 908 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 14: off short break DC DRAINA On the other side,