1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: From the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is inside the Parker. You give 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: voter number seventy six, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast. 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Parker. What a show we have 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: for you today. We're talking closer with former Major League 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: closer heat Beell. He stopped by also longtime Tiger radio 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: broadcaster Dan Dickerson. He'll drop by as well. Plus foul 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: or fair. Let's go up to lead off. It's getting 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: robbed to keep him on. Rob's hot take on the 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one. If 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: you're still are him and and hard about who the 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: best player in Major League Baseball is? You can pipe down. 15 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: It's Mike Trout. Are you watching? Are you alive? Are 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: you dead? Man? Is he off to a tour and 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: start to the Major League Baseball season? On Tuesday night, Trout, 18 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: playing against the Cleveland Guardians, went two for three, a homer, 19 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: a double, a walk, three RBI's, and yes, Trout is 20 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: raking through the first fourteen games, He's batting three seven 21 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: coming into Wednesday, and he leads the major leagues and 22 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: ops with the one point two three four. Uh. Anthony 23 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Rizzo from the Yankees is second with the one point 24 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: one four four. But man, people forgot about Trout because 25 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: of last year. Uh he only played thirty six game games. 26 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: He had that uh strain right calf and show, Hey, 27 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Oltani stole the show his teammate, so everybody was all 28 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: into Altani and he's the next best thing. And all 29 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Trout does has come out of the box through the 30 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: first fourteen games, just smoking, playing like we've seen him 31 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: do before. And let's think about this in his career, 32 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: a three time American League MVP, nine time All Star, 33 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: I mean, what else can he do? He plays defense, 34 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: he runs the bases, He he hits for power, he 35 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: hits for average. Mike Trout, until further notice, is the 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: best player in baseball. Number two hats off in congratulations 37 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: to Miguel Cabrera, who got his three thousand hit on 38 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Saturday against the Colorado Rockies. What an amazing career. Seventh 39 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: player in Major League Baseball history with five hundred home 40 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: runs and three thousand hits, and you know what, can 41 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: we even one up it and make it even better? 42 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Talk about being an elite company. Miguel Cabrera is now 43 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: only the third player in Major League Baseball history with 44 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: three thousand hits, five hundred home runs and a three 45 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: hundred of better batting average. And the other two guys 46 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Hank Aaron and Willie Mays. Yes, Maggie is in that 47 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: elite company. An incredible career that started with the Marlins 48 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: and took off in Detroit, and he put up incredible 49 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: numbers and it was great to see the way that 50 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: the fans reacted to him in Detroit. An amazing run. Obviously, 51 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Five hundred 52 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: home runs alone get you my vote, and he has 53 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: three thousand hits that gets you my vote. So hats 54 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: off again to Miguel Cabrera and his outstanding career thus 55 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: far number three. The New York Freaking Yankees had their 56 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: own cheating scandal in a mysterious letter that was sent 57 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: to the Yankees and that was made public on Tuesday, 58 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: as a few days before it was scheduled to be 59 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: unsealed by a judge's order. We finally find out that 60 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred wrote to Yankees gm Brian Cashman 61 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: regarding MLB's investigation into cheating allegations against the team. And 62 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, the two biggest revelations from this letter is 63 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: that the Yankees used their dugout phone to relay stolen 64 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: signs in T and six team and Manford appears to 65 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: have hid the truth from the public when he said 66 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: in a statement in two seventeen that the Yankees hadn't cheated. 67 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: How if it's in this letter, And you know it 68 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: was similar to what the Boston Red Sox got caught 69 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: doing when they use electronic equipment and they're cheating scandal, 70 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: including a smart phone to steal communications between teams and 71 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: their players. This is uh, this is stinky. This will 72 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how it plays out. The Astros 73 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: thing was such a big deal. Well fans go off 74 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: on the Yankees or because it's a letter now and 75 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: no one got suspended. I think the Yankees just had 76 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: to pay a fine. This is weird on how this 77 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: plays out, but I get the feeling that it won't 78 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: have the same impact as we saw with the Houston Astros. 79 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: Here comes the big interview listen, Headler cool Now, let's 80 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. Former major league closer Heath Bell, 81 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: who was a star with the San Diego Padres, had 82 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: three tremendous seasons closing games. Heath, welcome to the podcast. 83 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, no no doubt. I want to 84 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: talk about relief pitching with you. I know you retired 85 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: in Who's the best closer in baseball right now? Is 86 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: it Josh Hayter uh with the Milwaukee Brewers or is 87 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: it a wal Just Chapman with the Yankees. Who's the 88 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: best out there? Well, I'd like to say, um, the 89 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Brewers probably have the best closers, but you know, longevity 90 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: right now, it's kind of you have to say Chapman. 91 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think I think hard In 92 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: with the Braves has that mystique of that little craziness 93 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: that um batters don't like and that you know, like 94 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: your screws are looser whatnot. I think Gavin just throws 95 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: hard and she's got nasty stuff, but nobody's really afraid 96 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: of him. Yeah. I look at both of those guys 97 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: that I mentioned in Hater and Chapman and neither giving 98 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: up a run so far as season it's still early. Obviously, 99 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Hater has twelve strikeout Chapman has eleven. Um, you do 100 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: have to be a little crazy and make people feel 101 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: that way, and it's really really a tough job. How 102 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: did you, you know, handle it and what was your 103 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: mentality when you went out there. Well, I was always 104 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: talked to go out there and pretend like you know, um, 105 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: you're it's a one run game, you're up by one. 106 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: You gotta get it done. Nobody's gonna get come from 107 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: behind you. You know that you're basically either gonna win 108 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: the game or lose the game. Will save the game 109 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: or lose the game. And um, you know it was 110 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: for like me on the Mount, I always wanted somebody 111 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: to charge me, and I think people kind of knew that. 112 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything to get people to charge me. 113 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: I just thought it would be really fun if somebody 114 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: was going to charge me. And everybody thought it was 115 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: a little nuts with that, and I just thought it 116 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: would be interesting to see what I would do. But 117 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: I guess that's how they say your screws are loose 118 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: or whatnot, that you kind of you like the weird atmosphere, 119 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, I I like it when the other fans 120 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: booed me as in like I'll give you an example. 121 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: When I was five six years old, we were at 122 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: a ballgame. I think we were watching the California Angels playing. 123 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: My dad looked at me and goes, so, one day 124 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: you could be here, and I said, yeah, I hope 125 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: fifty thou people cheer me or boom me. And he's like, 126 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: why would you want them to boo you? And he goes, 127 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: I said, because I'm playing for the opposing team and 128 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: we're kicking their butt. Hey. I like that mentality. I 129 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid growing up, and I 130 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: don't know if you know this name, but the St. 131 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals had a closer, the Mad Hungarian. I remember 132 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: the Hungarian. Yeoki was his name, and he was he 133 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: was a little nuts in the back of the mount 134 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: and he would come in and slam the ball in 135 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: his glove and it was a great act and he 136 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: used to get people out. And I think that's all 137 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: that matter is when you're a closer, and I think 138 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: so like the Hungarian. It was one of those things 139 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: that it made him do the best he can do. 140 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: And when I ran out of the bullpen and came 141 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: in like a raging bull or whatnot. That was kind 142 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: of like me to get me where I needed to 143 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: be to perform the best. It wasn't like I'm gonna 144 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: scare the other guys. It was just a way for 145 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: me to get to the best of my ability. And 146 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: I think that's how a lot of closers are, you know. 147 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: They they're not like if you're trying to do something 148 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: just to you know, freak the other and the hitters 149 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: out or psychomount, it's not gonna work. The hitters are 150 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: too smart. They're too um too smart for that. Our guest, 151 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: his former major league closed a heat Bell, who of 152 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: course are broken with the Mets in two thousand four, 153 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: three time All Star, two time National League Rolaids Relief 154 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Man Award in two thousand nine, and and the closure. 155 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think Heath gets overlooked. It's a huge job. 156 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: I could always remember I worked in New York during 157 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: the Yankees winning those championships in Mariotto Rivera and and 158 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: I could easily say they wouldn't have won those five 159 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: World Series without Maryanod like he was that important. And 160 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: so forth has only been eight relievers in the Baseball 161 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Do you think that people don't respect 162 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: the reliever or the closure enough. I think it's just 163 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: it's just how the game has kind of moved and 164 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: how it evolved and stuff. We're like ding and wasn't 165 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: that important before and now it's really important. Um, you know, 166 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: it's all about wins. You know, middle relief guys, they're 167 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: starting to get promote it a little bit more. But 168 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, you know, it's uh, it's one 169 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: of those things. Baseball and the Hall of Fame are 170 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: kind of like two separate entities or whatnot. It's kind 171 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: of hard to explain because Major League Baseball has nothing 172 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: to do with all of Fame. I think eventually people 173 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: will get known and all the things that we do 174 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: now we're kind of like is building blocks for the 175 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: next generation that possibly to get into the Hall of Fame. 176 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: But I think people are starting to realize, like even 177 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: at the All Star Game, you're getting mid relief guys 178 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: in there now because those are really important guys. And 179 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: that's why I think at the All Star Game there's 180 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of runs being scored because you 181 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: before you had a bunch of starters and then you 182 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: had a couple, you know, you had two or three 183 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: closers in there, and the starters weren't used to pitching 184 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: like in the seventh inning, just want an him. So 185 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: now you've got guys that are coming in with pressure situations. 186 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: They're used to doing that, so it's harder for the hitters. 187 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. You replaced a legend and Trevor Hoffman, 188 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer there in San Diego, and at 189 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: one point you tied his record, you did at one 190 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: straight saves. What was that like re placing a guy 191 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: like Hoffman, who was, you know, legendary in San Diego. Well, Trevor, 192 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: Trevor is a legend. He's awesome. I've always said in 193 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: San Diego, I never want to be Trevor Hoffman. I 194 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: want to be number two because he's number one. And 195 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: I always joked around saying, you know, I can't fulfill 196 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: his shoes because he wears size fourteen and I wear 197 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: a size thirteen. So I couldn't do that, and I 198 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: just became the best person I could possibly do. And 199 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: then the funny part was when I actually tied his record, 200 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to break his record. I think 201 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: it was a Sunday day game, and it was Trevor 202 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Hoffman day. You know, it was like the bubble head 203 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And with two hours, two hours, with a 204 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: guy on third, I had a groundball, easy groundball to 205 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: the shortstop um Chase Headley, and he yielded it. And 206 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: then he for some odd reasons saw a gopher in 207 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: the infield and threw the ball straight in the ground 208 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: and Adrians as couldn't pick up the ball. The run scored. 209 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: I blew to save. We got I start the next 210 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: guy out. Then we came back and I think Adrian 211 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: had a walk off home run or you know, Trevor Hoffan. 212 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: And people asked me, you could have broke it, and 213 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: I said, honestly, this is Trevor Hoffan's day. I'm just 214 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: honored to tie his record, and there's no way I 215 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: would want to break his record on his day in 216 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: San Diego here. So I just think, you know that 217 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: gopher that popped up in the infield, you know that 218 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: Chase tried to hit Um. I think was great what 219 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: he did or whatnot. And you know, I ended up 220 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: putting another string of like ten saves in a row there. 221 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: But uh, that was kind of the quirkiness about me 222 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: is I was just loving playing baseball. I got to 223 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: do what I dreamed of doing as a little kid. 224 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: I got paid a bunch of money to play a game. 225 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I think a lot of guys 226 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: forget that this is a kid's game that we play ball, 227 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, and we get paid for it. We're a 228 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: bunch of adults playing kids games. So, um, I just 229 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: worked really hard and and did it and did it 230 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: to the best of my ability and got to the top. 231 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: And now you're retired since and you started your own podcast, 232 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: tell us about a heat. Yeah, So I've mostly doing 233 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: about the San Diego Padres, talking about them and how 234 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: their seasons gone, doing a little bit of baseball about 235 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: like the whole league here and there. But I say 236 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: some quirky things, you know, like the unwritten rule and 237 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: that I need to write a book about that. And 238 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: I tell stories, and my stories are a little like, 239 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, like when the first time I made the 240 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: All Star Game is the first time I made the 241 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: All Star Game in my whole life. So I was 242 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: like a kid in a candy store that my Dad's like, Philip, 243 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: this buck, you could have whatever you want or kid 244 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: at Christmas Morning. So, and I'm trying to get the 245 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: fans involved, and occasionally I'm gonna go to some games 246 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: and and interview people there um at Petco Park and 247 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: on the road. So it's gonna be really like fan 248 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: involved and let's have some fun on this podcast. Heath, 249 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: what's the name of the podcast. It's called ringing the Bell. 250 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: All right, ringing the Bell. We appreciate you so much, Heat, 251 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us here on the podcast, and good 252 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: luck with your podcast, my man. All right, thank you, 253 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Take care. Fox Sports Radio has 254 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 255 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and 256 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R 257 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: to listen live. It's time for the Pocket Protector Central 258 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: the Analytic numbers you need to know? Well, maybe Anthony 259 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: Masterson is his name, b S Analytics is his game. 260 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: What do you got for me, Anthony? Been a lot 261 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: of talk about umpires over the last few years, namely 262 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: whether or not you're gonna stick around behind home plate 263 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: or be replaced by robots. If you were watching Sunday 264 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: Night Baseball this week, you saw an apoplectic Kyle Schwarberg 265 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: giving homeplate umpire Angel Hernandez a few pieces of his 266 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: mind after a blown strike three call in the ninth inning. 267 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing, it was a blown call. Fans have 268 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: complained about umpires and the strike zone since the dawn 269 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: of time, but now with the data that we have, 270 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: we can compartmentalize it and prove an up mystic call 271 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: or not. Now, all these umpires are in the big 272 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: leagues for a reason, and an umpire's correct call percentage 273 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: will all be between ninety. Alan Porter has led each 274 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: of the last two seasons at with stat Cast data, 275 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: each pitch is given a whopping eighty nine different attributes, 276 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: the most important for these purposes being that pitches horizontal 277 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: and vertical position as it crosses the plate, and the 278 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: height of the top and bottom of the strike zone. 279 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: You look at the top ten list of miss calls 280 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: since last season and it's a who's who of cursed names. 281 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Greg Gibson, Joe West, Las Diez, and of course the 282 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: aforementioned Hernandez. Now Ethan Singer and Ethan Schwartz. The college 283 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: heroes at the ump score Cards website rated Hernandez effort 284 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: on Sunday night, and it did not make the grade. 285 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: Hernandez was accurate overall, but just seventies with his called strikes, 286 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: meaning eleven of forty eight called strikes were actually balls, 287 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: including the one that set Shoreber off. Now are we 288 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: moving to robot umps. I'll believe it when I see it, 289 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: but for now, umpires are getting the stat cast treatment 290 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: to We've come a long way since quest tech machines 291 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: that ball. It was a big week in the big leagues. 292 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Who's Who's Is it foul or is it fair? And 293 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: Now from MLB bro dot com, here's JR gamble. The 294 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: New York Mets defeated the St. Louis Cardinals three to 295 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: nothing Tuesday night to secure their sixth straight series win. Jr. 296 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: Is it foul or fair to say that new Mets 297 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: owner Stephen Cohen is the best thing that happened to 298 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: the Metropolitans since Dwight Gooden's arrival in Fair. I had 299 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: my skepticism when the billionaire purchased the team from the Wilpons. 300 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: I would have liked to see the ownership team led 301 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: by a rod get a shot, But you have to 302 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: admit everything. Steve Cohen, his touch is turned to goal. 303 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: The Mets are currently sitting at fourteen and five with 304 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the best record in baseball. He's shown the ability to 305 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: play the background where need be, open up his bank 306 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: and check book where need be. He's also showing the 307 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: baseball knowledge to pull the trigger on moves like bringing 308 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: in the season manager like Buck show Walter after Disaster's 309 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: first season. The Lynndor pickup is looking promising as Francisco 310 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: has found his stroke and he's back loving Met fans again, 311 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: getting Starlett Marte, a real baseball player in Duardo Escobar, 312 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: emerging them with guys like franchise cornerstones Peter Alonso, and 313 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: of course a pitching staff that, even without Jacob Degram, 314 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: is quite formidable. The Mets are sitting in first place, 315 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: and the Flushing fans couldn't be any happier. When the 316 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: will Paron sold, the Mets fans overjoyed and had optimism 317 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: that at least they would spend money when needed to 318 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: get over the hump. It was no clearer that Cohen 319 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: usher in a new era and Mess history than when 320 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: he signed mad Max Sherzon to a three year, one 321 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million dollar contract three times cy Young 322 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: Award winner was in the fold. It proved Cohen was 323 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: all in and the Mets are definitely better off for it. 324 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: Money into more money. Now it's time for it. Ain't 325 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: on the basis with love that money, that money, Rob. 326 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: We start off a new week and I'm gonna look 327 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: all West coast action for this one, but a few 328 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: of the teams are going to be on the East Coast, 329 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: not the Dodgers. They're at home against the Detroit Tigers. 330 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: First pitches at ten ten Eastern Tigers. This season a 331 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: few games under five hundred. Dodgers are riding Scott High, 332 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: despite the fact that looked great in Arizona. But nevertheless 333 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: they're still the best team in the National League. Tyler 334 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Anderson goes for Los Angeles and this one. I'm taking 335 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: l A to win it straight up. Also, San Diego 336 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: Padres are in Pittsburgh this weekend to take on the 337 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates. You Darvis is going on Friday afternoon at 338 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: least three thirty Pacific, maybe six thirty Eastern, so he 339 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: goes up against Jack Thomps. I'm taking San Diego and 340 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: that one, despite the fact that their offense has just 341 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: been dismal the season. Handful of guys are batting under 342 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: two hundred in the year, but they're starting pitching has 343 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: been still there. Speaking of starting pitching, I'm also going 344 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: with the Angels. They're in the South side of Chicago 345 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: against the White Sox. Noah Syndergart early on too. No 346 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: record with the twelve r A. He's opposed by Vince 347 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Velaska is who's yet to get a victory of the season. 348 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: You are Ray at seven. When Rob was a newspaper columnist, 349 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: he lived by this motto, if I'm writing, I'm ripping. 350 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Let's bring in a writer and broadcaster, older new All right, now, 351 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: let's welcome to the podcast. Longtime Tigers announcer one of 352 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: the best voices on radio, Mr Dan Dickerson, a friend 353 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: of mine. Dan, Welcome to the podcast, Rob, Thanks for 354 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: having me on. Always gonna talk to you, no doubt 355 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: and big doings going on in Detroit and I just 356 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: a couple of things, obviously, Miguel Cabrera with his three 357 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: thousand hit to go along with five r home runs. 358 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: But before we get there, Dan and I want you 359 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: to talk about Mickey's career and what he's done. I 360 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: love the sound when you guys wanted the radio, and 361 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Boone and the Yankees decided to walk with del 362 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: Cabrero were runners on second and third and two outs 363 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: in a close game, and you were like, did no 364 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: way he's gonna Are you gonna walk him? It sounded 365 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: tongue in cheek, but you understood the Yankees in that situation, 366 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: and absolutely, yeah. I made a joke of it before 367 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: he did. I said, I think the rule is, if 368 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: you're going for three thousand, the first place is open, 369 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: you have to pitch him. And then he put up 370 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: the four fingers and like, oh so yeah. I just 371 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: I got a kick out of the crowd reaction, and 372 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: I made the point of Ron Gardener said he learned 373 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: a long time ago sometimes you just pitched to the 374 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: stars because that's what the fans come to see. But really, 375 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: when you talk to it, you understood why he didn't. 376 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: Talking to a j the next day, It's like there 377 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: wasn't a single manager in the game who would pitch 378 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: to Miguel caberta period. Right right, the score was one nothing. 379 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: Have you got your in the game? Every game, every 380 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: win is so important. Toronto missed the playoffs by one 381 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: games or you think Charlie Montoya couldn't find one game 382 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: where he probably would regretted the decision. He's like, no, 383 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: you have to you have to do execut what he did. 384 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: And I get it, but I we had a little 385 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: fun with the moment. Yeah, oh yeah, it sounded fun 386 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: on the radio. I love listening to it. Just talk 387 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: about Miggie and his accomplishment obviously to get three thousand hits. 388 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, only thirty three players have done 389 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: it in Major League Baseball. Only seven have home runs 390 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: and three thousand hits. I mean, he's had a tremendous career, 391 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. And it's just you know, and the 392 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: impact remains rob even though we know the production is down, 393 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: but the impact that he has on opposing pictures, how 394 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: they pitched to him, how they pitched it around him. 395 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes still it's an outsized impact that he has on 396 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: the guys in that clubhouse and the guys who hit 397 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: around him, and you just every year there's a young 398 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: kid who joins the team or even a veteran and says, 399 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm learning just by watching the Gael Cabre. You know, 400 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: he hasn't been the most vocal leader. That's not his style, 401 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: but he loves talking, hitting with his teammates, and they 402 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: learned that they're willing to sit and talk with them, 403 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna learn something. And I thought, really the neatest 404 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: part of the last two years rob the chase for 405 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: five hundred. We got a chance to talk about all 406 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: the people that he was passing on the leaderboard on 407 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: his way to five hundred. It was fun to be 408 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: able to review all those great names and all of 409 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: their accomplishments, but also to put his accomplishments in perspective. 410 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: And then maybe my favorite moment of the last two 411 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: years or the entire time maybe that he's been in Detroit. 412 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: He was very on Saturday morning to day he got 413 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: the three thousand fit. He's kind of holding court at 414 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: his at his lockers. Now he never does that when 415 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: he was talking with them, so people kind of started 416 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: filtering over and you're thinking, well, he might just kind 417 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: of shut it down here, because again, it's just that's 418 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: not what he does. It's not he just doesn't, you know, 419 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't do the whole lot anyway. So he ends 420 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: up holding court for half an hour, answering every question, laughing, joking, serious, reflective, emotional. 421 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean it was so neat you could tell how 422 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: much it meant to him to accomplish this. And you 423 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: know he's asked who you canna think of when you're 424 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: around first space or where whateverybod should end up on 425 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: your hit. My uncle David Torres, who was his hitting coach, 426 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: who taught him that beautiful opposite field approach. A big 427 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: part of the field approach. Um he kept talking about 428 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: Spencer Torkos and he goes, you guys know how good 429 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: he is. I mean just all the topics that he covered, 430 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: but you can tell it was very special to him. 431 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: And every time he talked about how specially it was 432 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: for him, he went back to one thing, winning because 433 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: that's all he wants to do. And it always gets 434 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: back to winning. And I think he now feels like 435 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: he's on a team that has enough talent to actually 436 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: be in the conversation and he loves that more than anything. 437 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: Our guest is Dan Dickerson, long time Tigers broadcaster. And 438 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: and then when you're when you're as a broadcaster and 439 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: you're ready for this moment, do you prepare? Do you 440 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: want it to be natural? You know everyone it's a 441 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: it's a it's a clip that everyone's gonna here, am 442 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: I right. It's a tough spot to be and you 443 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: don't want it to be too scripted, but you but 444 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: you want it to be memorable. Correct. That's a great 445 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: way to put it right there. I think that you 446 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: just nailed it. And that's the so I've settled, because 447 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: I've been doing this long enough, I've settled on a 448 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: couple of things. So you've got early when they started 449 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: to get into uh, you know, like when they were 450 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna make the postseason. You're very aware of that those 451 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: colleges are going to be replayed. So I remember that 452 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: when they crunched in oh six, first time they made 453 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: it nineteen years I wrote that one out and then 454 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: I basically read it when they pleased, and I'm like, wow, 455 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: that sounded can because it was so you learned, okay, 456 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: react to the moment and then hopefully has something to 457 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: say on the back end. They can you know, try 458 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: to capture the moment. However, you're gonna do that, right, 459 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: So I think that's what with this call. You know 460 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: it's coming, so you can't tell Miguels please get a groundball. 461 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: Singles are right because that's what I'm planning for. Okay, 462 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: So you have to react to the moment. I was 463 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: hoping it was gonna get, you know, the six double, 464 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: because that would have complicated the call. So you react 465 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: to the moment, try to describe the moment, and then yes, 466 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: you do plan out the next part because if you 467 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be special, and you I wanted it to 468 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: be special for him. It sounds funny, but I did. 469 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I don't know if you'll ever listen to it, 470 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: but he'll have this to commemorate the moment. And so 471 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to think of what I wanted to say, 472 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: and then you know, that was kind of what I 473 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 1: came up with, and I did write it down. Now 474 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: I didn't read it, but I wrote it down because 475 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: I didn't. It's not going to be a commemorative call 476 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: or a memorable call if you screw up any part 477 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: of that. So that's how it works. It's like, react 478 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: to the moment, that's all reactive, and just just trust 479 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: that you're gonna describe it well. But you do have 480 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: to plan for the back end of that call and 481 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: what you want to say to try to capture you know, 482 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: how do you try to capture this career and a 483 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: couple of sentences. But that's you know, that's what you 484 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: try to do for all baseball fans in these moments 485 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: are special. Here is the call from Dan Dickinson and 486 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: Miguel Cabrera's three thousand hit upright, Relax, dance, tucks the 487 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: left shoulder as he cats the bat over the right. 488 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: The one one ground ball, they said, in the right 489 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: three thousand for Miguel Cabro raises his arms. Glazie is 490 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the first of hug him. The Tigers dug out empties 491 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: as they charge over the first base and let the 492 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: hug dispensing begin. Oh what an incredible journey from a 493 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: skinny fifteen year old discovered on the dusty fields of 494 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: Maracai to an icon in Motown. Miguel Cabrera, the Pride 495 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: of Venezuela, has joined of the most exclusive clubs containing 496 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: enough best hitters in baseball history. Three thousand hits. Were 497 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: you happy with it, Dan, when you heard it? After? Yes, 498 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: you dread it. Your dread to hear you for the 499 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: first time, I knew I hadn't screwed up. But it's 500 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, how did it actually sound over the years. 501 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: I heard it back. I'm like, Okay, that sounded that. 502 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: It sounded okay, and I got nice feedback. So that's 503 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: all you care about it, you know, if if there's 504 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: no feedback or if it was like okay, but the 505 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: feedback is very nice, So I know I didn't screw 506 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: it up. Seriously, Rob, It's like, don't screw it up. Okay, 507 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: you know that you can do this, don't screw it up. 508 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not surprised that you didn't screw it 509 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: up because you're a tremendous baseball announcer. You know you are. Hey, 510 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: a couple of last things, uh putting Cabrera's career uh 511 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: in focus and obviously is the first ballot Hall of Fame. 512 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean he would get my vote with five home 513 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: runs let loan three thousand hits, he would get I 514 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: vote again. And he also joined in an elite club 515 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: of batting having a three hundred of better batting average. 516 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: Only Willie Mays and Hank Aaron and Miguel Cabrera have 517 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: done that. I mean, you want to talk about the 518 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: kreme dela crema baseball that speaks volumes, doesn't it? Yeah, 519 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: these are manufactured numbers. You've seen the list is the 520 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: only guy with four hundred thirty two doubles at least 521 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: twenty three triples home now, No, no, these are five hundred, 522 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: six hundred three thousand or five hundred three hundred three thousand, 523 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: legit problems numbers that means something. And when you think 524 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: that one group includes Aaron and two holes and the 525 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: other includes Aaron and May's and Miguel's a third in 526 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: each group, it's a it's a wild last thing about 527 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: the Tigers and coming into Wednesday, UH six and ten 528 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: played some good ball last year. What kind of team 529 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: and what can we expect? Can they compete in the Central? Oh? 530 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, especially with the start the White soxcer I mean, 531 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: White Sox are still the team to beat. I don't 532 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: care if they've lost a row or not. There's still 533 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: the team to beat. But I think with the Tigers, 534 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: what they did that, you know, adding not just Rodriguez 535 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: and Bias, but Chaffin and send to after the lockout, 536 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: you've got a well rounded roster. Rob Spencer Torkelsen is 537 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: going to be an impact bat this year. Riley Green 538 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, and it might be mid season before 539 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's a broken bone in his foot. He's 540 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: going to be playing center field, you know. But when 541 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: he comes back, he will be an impact bat. And basically, 542 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: the way I look at it, pitching and defense is 543 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: going to be better. They have to have a good 544 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: enough offense and I'm talking like the middle of the 545 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: pack offense instead of eleventh like it was last year, 546 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: to go with much improved run prevention. The championship teams. 547 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: You know it at pitching and defense, And right now 548 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: the pitching side of the equation is after a very 549 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: good start, even without some key arms, and I think 550 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: that's why this team is going to be absolutely in 551 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: the thicker things right in the September. His name is 552 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Dan Dickerson, one of the best baseball announcers in the country. 553 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: He got does the Tigers in Detroit. And what a 554 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on after such a big moment. Dan, 555 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Appreciate you. I'm always great talking. 556 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Now bringing 557 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: the closer, here's why MLB is better than the NFL 558 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: or NBA, and it isn't even close. Reason Number fifty 559 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: five why Major League Baseball is better than the NBA 560 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: and better than the NFL. And it took place in 561 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: Cincinnati last week when there were some fans who showed 562 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: up with paper bags over their heads. Yes, the Reds 563 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: have been that bad this year. It was in the 564 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: midst of an eleven game losing streak by Cincinnati. Fans 565 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: aren't happy. That's a storied franchise and they care, and 566 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: that they're embarrassed by their franchise and what's going on. 567 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: They've let a lot of great players go. They almost 568 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: made the playoffs a year ago, and now they're dog 569 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: fool and at Red's official tried to get them to 570 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: take off their bags when they were doing a live 571 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: television interview, which was ridiculous. Fans should have the right 572 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: to peacefully protest or make a statement. And bravo to 573 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: the fans in Cincinnati for caring that much to even 574 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: put on a bag, but to go to the games. 575 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: They could have just stayed home instead, they bought tickets 576 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: and they wore their paper bags. And I applaud the 577 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds fans. In the words of New York TV 578 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: legend the late build againson thanking you for your time 579 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: this time until next time rob Parker out he can't 580 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: get it. This could be an inside the Parker to 581 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: see you next weekend. Save bad time, Save Matt station.