1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with IET Radio. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the almost Famous podcast. It's been an 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Ashley Here, we're back breaking down season two, Episode two 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: of The Golden Bachelor. Ashley ratings for that episode one 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: came out drastically lower than last year, which is unfortunate 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: because I really want this show. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: To work well. Last year as in Jones season Oh, 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: Gary season Gary, Okay, yeah, drastically different than Gary. Gary's 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: numbers were so big, what were they like four or 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: five million? 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: Yes, and then the finale had seven point like seven million, 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: and they this is pulling this season so far after 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: the first week was like third in the time slot. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: So damn, it's not good. It's not good. We gotta 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: get it back. We've gotta figure out way. 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: You know. Mail's not the answer though, And like Mel's 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: gonna kill me whenever he comes on this podcast. But 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: it's just like he's a very handsome guy. He's kind 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: of like the he's not There are pluses from Mel 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: and there are pluses from Gary, and like the combination 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: of the two of them is kind of what would 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: make the perfect Golden Bachelor. I know people say that 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: Gary what's perfect golden Bachelor, but then like stuff happens, 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: you know, like divorce really quickly. But like Gary, I mean, 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: like Mel I get is like hot, He's kind of 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: like a hot guy, right, but like he doesn't reek 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: of like emotion. There's not a lot of different levels 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: to him so far. 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: I would yes, I would say it this way too. 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: Gary was the type of guy that my wife could 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: watch and like be like he is so cute, like 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: I want him to find love and he was cute. Yeah, 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: And I'd be like, I'm cheering for him too, Jess, 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: like we were cheering for him together. If she was 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: like that mel guy cute, like I would be like, whoa, 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: like take a step back. 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Totally, because there's a difference between cute and cute. Yeah, 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: and one is one and one is the other. 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: And here has been my argument the whole time. Bachelor people, producers, 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: I know you listen to this because we get in 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: trouble for things, so I know you hear these things. 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: It's not hard, guys, it's not hard. This isn't rocket science. 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: Like you were handed the easiest show to cast in 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: the world. Go with like cute old person, go with 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: that don't try to make your golden Bachelor become hot. 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: That's a weird thing to do. Keep going with cute, 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: keep going with like rootability, keep going with relatability. For 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: all of us out there who have lost grandparents and 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: loved our grandparents and want to watch our grandparents once 51 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: again in a dating world, don't go with people that 52 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: are young enough or attractive enough to make us feel 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 2: weird about watching them. 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: You know what, man, you really just you hit the point. 55 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: That was it and I didn't even realize it. You're right. 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: This this show is a lot more like hot driven 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: than Gary season, which was just sweet driven. 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't know who they pulled or what kind of 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: test they did. You know that this is a huge franchise, 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: it's a big network, large production company. They I know 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: they did some tests behind the scenes on what people 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: were into or not. I don't know who they tested 63 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: and who they pulled. But whoever told them to get 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: away from having grandma's and grandpa's I really and I 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: said this, and I still mean it. I think they 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: could have had a better season if this dude was 67 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: eighty years old with a walker coming into the Bachelor mansion, 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: then they would like a really attractive, middle aged human. 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: Ben, I have no notes for you. That's really well put. 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: You didn't talk about this last week, right, you didn't 71 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: come on Hair, come on Aaron do an episode. Okay. 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: So I did talk to Kathy and Susan about this, 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: and it's really the women that are really rocking it 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: right now. They're a great cast. He's just I just 75 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: don't think that we're not going to get much from him. 76 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I want to cry with Mel. I'm never 77 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: gonna cry with Mel. Like I don't feel bad for 78 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: the guy. Like he's doing great. He's a professional football player. 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: He's into this enough, but he's not like invested into 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: it where we're you know, with Kathy and Susan and 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: that cast and with Gary. If we can kind of 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: put everything else that happened post show away. What happened 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: with that show is we were rooting for them so 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: hard week by week, even the cast who would get eliminated, 85 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: and I remember feeling, oh, I hope you get off 86 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: of this and find like, I hope you get off 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: of this and can date again. This might be insensitive. 88 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about any of these people. You're so right, like, 89 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: they're all very attractive, they're all very well accomplished. If 90 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: they want dates, I know they have people looking to 91 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: date them. Mel. Mel's not hurting for dates. This is 92 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: not his last shot here. 93 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 3: Mel could probably get most women like just into a 94 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: first date situation. I'd say, like most women from like 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: fifty to seventy to go on a date with him. 96 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: I know that he wants a forty five. I'm not 97 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: sure that every forty five year old is going to 98 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: say yes to him. 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: I might beat a different mind space because we're in 100 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: the process of famously available right now, where Deiana and 101 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: Mercedes are going on dates and we're tracking along with 102 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: it and falling along with it. Mel is Mel would 103 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: almost be He's kind of on the fringe, but I 104 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: would lean towards doing it, like setting him up on 105 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: a date with Deanna. Now, Deanna is. 106 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: Younger, spunkier, she's forty three. 107 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: But he is the type of guy that I would say, okay, 108 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: at least go on a date with him, Like I 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: don't think this is going to be marriage, but it's 110 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: a date, and I think she would say yes just 111 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: because she wants to date. Here's the point. I think 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: the show missed the mark. This was a show for 113 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: people to root for and cheer for and to invest 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: into and to be sensitive with, and in a lot 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: of ways, this was a show that if they would 116 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: have done it well for a few seasons, I think 117 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 2: they get a fan base that's protective of the show. Again, 118 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: it's like a cult following where they're invested into it 119 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: and they will protect the show because these cast members 120 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 2: are giving up so much and they're laying their lives 121 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: on the line for the second chance at love, and 122 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: the leads are risking it all by becoming this overnight 123 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: celebrity in their sixties, seventies, eighties, and they don't know 124 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: how to deal with it, and they're corky it dealing 125 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: with it, and their Instagram is cringey, and we're like, 126 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: that is my grandparent. That is the person I'm rooting for. 127 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: I love that person because their ego has gone out 128 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: the door way long ago and they've only gone on 129 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: the show because there was an opportunity to mix life 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: up a bit. And I think the show has completely 131 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: missed a mark for at least for this season, and 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm worried it's gonna be just. 133 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: Done so I after this. Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, 134 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: another thing that I do not like, not to say 135 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: that I don't like mel, but you know what I 136 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: mean is the right fit. Probably not. Something I do 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: not like is the decorations or the way the remodel 138 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: of the houses. I know that they're going to be 139 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: doing a whole show about remodeling the house, but whatever 140 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: in between we're in right now. It is disgusting there. 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: It looks so cheap to the point like where I 142 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: was like, are we even in the Bachelor Mansion or 143 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: it is showing us visuals of the outside and like 144 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: they're having pool parties there and they are living somewhere 145 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: else because it's unrecognizable. There's like light purple paint on 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: just straight up drywall. One of the nice things about 147 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: the Bachelor Mansion was you never saw just like regular 148 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: painted dry wall. There's like stone and brick and well 149 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: wallpaper and lots of ornate things. It looks like they're 150 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: in a regular ass house that could have been built 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: whenever with no style. 152 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like they're in like a fair Field 153 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: and in sweets, which I love to say. Yeah, I 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: love to stay there. Love a Fairfield, big fan I 155 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: don't want to watch a fairfield on television. 156 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: It does not look like a mansion at all. It 157 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: looks like my house anyway. It's also has really poor 158 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: paint colors anyway. 159 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: Very so, here's the good to the season so far. 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: Okay, here's the good. The women are really awesome. They're 161 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: hotter than Ben would probably like. 162 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: Yes, you're spot on. You said it perfectly. Yeah, the 163 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: women are good. They're outspoken. I think they're gonna have 164 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: more drama than past, like the years of the past. 165 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: They're feisty. There is good so far. There is some 166 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: things that are very enjoyable about this season, and we're 167 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: gonna lean into those because I want this again. I'm 168 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: coming from this from a place of not being mad 169 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: at the show. I'm not mad at the show at all. 170 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: They think they think they'm mad at them. I'm not 171 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: mad at them. I just want them to be good 172 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: and I want this show to work what we want 173 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: and I want this show to work. I want The 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: Golden to be a show that I can get into 175 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: because it was fun for my wife and I had 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: to watch together, and right now we're not at that place. 177 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna get to that place this season. 178 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: That doesn't change the fact that I still want it 179 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: to be good. I'm rooting for you, Bachelor, like I'm 180 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: rooting for you deeply for so many reasons. 181 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: He's so Tyra Banks in this moment, like you know 182 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: I was rooting for you, like we were all rooting 183 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: for you. 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I'm 201 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: sorry that her name is slipping me right now, but 202 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: oh it's Andre, Sondra and Andre. That is a very 203 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: unique choice by the parents. But okay, no way, how 204 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: was that even a think Sondra and Andre? Okay, so 205 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: moving beyond that, she was so stunning and I was like, 206 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: not sure about how far she'd get. And then I 207 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: saw her get out a lament and I was like, 208 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: she's so saying she has to go so far. And 209 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: you were like a big fan with knowing nothing about her, 210 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: and were you also so disappointed to yeah, like what 211 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: was that? 212 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: And was like I don't know what we're doing. 213 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then you're Miley and also, well, look 214 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: at the girl that I picked. Yeh, Maya, Maya. She 215 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: got elimined night Wall and yeah, poopsie, Daisy. 216 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: It's a very odd It was a very odd first 217 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: you know week for me. And then you know, obviously 218 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 2: we have this pool party. That's kind of where we 219 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: pick it up. This episode is with yeah, fla effects 220 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: of the pool party and reminiscing on the makeout that 221 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Nicole and mel do in the pool now again. Would 222 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: never claim to be a Bachelor expert. I don't have 223 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: a lot of advice for any new leads coming through 224 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: the show. I have a few things, I would say, 225 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: not a lot when it comes to the logistics of 226 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: it all and how you should navigate it. The only 227 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: thing I ever tell leads. 228 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: Don't kiss in front of the other people. 229 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: The only thing, the only thing, don't kiss in front 230 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: of the other people. If if you don't have to write. 231 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes cocktail parties and staff stuff like it just happens. 232 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: But what he did in that pool, like in the 233 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: back of his mind, one, how do you do that? 234 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: I've never seen that done really on this show before. 235 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: We're like, actually, me neither, not even with one of 236 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: the young people. Dude, Like, very rarely does that happen. 237 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: Like what show do they think they're on? 238 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: They're usually a little bit more discreet about it, you know, 239 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: where like maybe you catch them making out, but like 240 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: it's a one on one moment and everybody can kind 241 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: of see from far away. He was just like, let's 242 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: just straight up make out in bikinis and a bathing 243 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: suit without with everybody seeing it was quite something. 244 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: It's quite something. It's very odd to me because I 245 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: think it sends the wrong message, especially on the first 246 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: week when you're trying to convince these women that you're 247 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: actually there to do this thing. Well, they already know 248 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: the things you've said, and then you say, you know what, 249 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: the good wise decision is here, I'm gonna make out 250 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: with this one. Not just like kisser. I'm gonna go 251 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: all in in front of everybody else floating around me 252 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: in the pool, making everyone else either upset, jealous, angry, 253 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: or feeling very uncomfortable, Like I don't Ashley, if you 254 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: and Jared and I and Jess were at. 255 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: Dinner, could you imagine and we're married and we're still 256 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: and there's nobody to date there, that would still be 257 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: the weirdest thing. 258 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: You and Jared just start making out a dinner like 259 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: going at it. I would feel uncomfortable. 260 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is so strange. Your commentary and passionate 261 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: about Golden is just so good. I like love listening 262 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: to you talk Golden talk more golden to me. 263 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: As if that couldn't be more awkward. 264 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: I just said that, so there is going to be 265 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: This is the shortest episode of all time, by the way, Yeah, 266 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: forty one minutes. I know that. Like during the two 267 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: hour episodes, which crunched down to like an hour and 268 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: a half, we're always like, oh god, it's too long. 269 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: Well this was way too short, where I'm like, did 270 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: I even just watch an episode? Anything happen? We have 271 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: one one on one or kind of two one on 272 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: ones with the Nichole's in there, and then a group date, 273 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: and it looks like we know from the beginning of 274 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: the episode that Debbie will be going on the one 275 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: on one. Uh so that makes sense to me. Debbie 276 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: seemed like a front runner to all of us going 277 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: into it. Let's talk about the group date, though, which 278 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: is so fantastic because it's with our friend Jared Freed. 279 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: Have you ever met Jared. 280 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: I've never met Jared. 281 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh he's great. He's so great. He's hilarious, Like, nobody 282 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: does bachelor comedy better than him. So I'm glad that 283 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: they had him on here. 284 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: It's a great date, it's fun, and I actually walked 285 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: out of that, or not walked out of it. I 286 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: moved on to the next scene of this episode thinking 287 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: I'm impressed with everybody everybody. I thought did well for 288 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: the for the challenge that was given. I thought mel 289 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: handled it well. 290 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: He seemed to be genuinely laughing. Yeah, like he was 291 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: actually making fun of himself, because a lot of people 292 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: do not handle ros well. 293 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: No. I thought it was great, great date. Whatever Nicole 294 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: wins this date, the one on one is not unexpected. 295 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: But again, I would say, you just made out with 296 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: this girl in a pool in front of everybody, Should 297 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: you really be bringing her on the one on one 298 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: date right afterwards after everybody made jokes about you guys 299 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: making out on the pool, probably sending a message of 300 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: either no, this is the only one I'm after, everybody 301 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: else can go home now, or he's just not making 302 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: like strategic decisions on how the feelings of others might 303 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: be affected by the choices he makes. 304 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. And your prediction as to what it is. 305 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: I think he's so into her, Yeah. 306 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: I think, Oh, I think that she is a front runner, 307 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: but I don't think. I don't know what she's gonna win. 308 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: But I do think that he's probably most just on 309 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: the surface attracted to her. Yeah, And I get that 310 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: her energy, her look is very young. So Nicole's date 311 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: is actually oddly fast paced. 312 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: To me. 313 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: It seems as if they are kind of in an 314 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: interview where she's like, yeah, I've been married twice, what 315 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: about you? I don't know thing about you? And then okay, 316 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: and then my answer about like, yeah, you want to 317 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: get married again. It was like, seemed a little interviewee 318 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: and it didn't give me romantic vibes. It gave me like, 319 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: these people want to hook up with each other, but 320 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about beyond yeah. 321 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how romance is going to 322 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: be displayed here. We felt that way with Gary too, 323 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: at least initially in the season. There was a lot 324 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: of very he was Remember he was really good at 325 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: like patting somebody's leg or something, and he just wasn't 326 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: saying a lot. I think there's nerves. I think these 327 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: one on ones are going to kind of be weird 328 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: for a while until they both get in the rhythm 329 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: of having cameras around and talking about things that matter, 330 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: especially in front of others. I right now am still 331 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: if we're comparing and contrasting, based on the cast that's 332 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: available and what we've seen so far, I still think 333 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: Nicole is my front runner. If we had to pick 334 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: at for this week. Now, we do contrast that with 335 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: Mel and Debbie's date, which happens, and I actually do 336 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: feel like there was more romance and a more of 337 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: a connection on that date than what we saw between 338 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: Mel and Nicole one on the Winner's Date or whatever 339 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: they call it. Do you agree? 340 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 3: I do agree. I think this is where Mel's lack 341 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: of emotion is gonna come in, where it's like, the 342 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: dates seem fine, but I don't know how much we're 343 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 3: going to be able to differentiate date to date because 344 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: he is kind of. 345 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: A locked box. Yeah, he's not sharing much. Huh. 346 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 3: No, Debbie, it does feel like a more romantic date. 347 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: I just feel like it's this slower pace, like cooking together, 348 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: eating a meal together like that. It just felt like 349 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: it lent more to an emotional connection. But I'm not 350 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: sure I'm gonna feel a lot of emotional connection. 351 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: Well here's the cool part. What if we do. I'm 352 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: not giving up on it yet. Okay, what if Mel 353 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: breaks down in the middle of this season and he says, 354 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: you know what, this is so overwhelming, It's so hard. 355 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: I got so many great women. I'm a changed man. 356 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: I am opening my life up to try to make 357 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: this work because I care about this person. Then goodness, 358 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: we have one of the best seasons. So that's why 359 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up on it yet. If it opens 360 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: and closes kind of with him being in a closed 361 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: box and these dates just feeling cookie cutter and conversation 362 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: never go anywhere, I'm going to be so mad. And 363 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: I'll make sure to say. 364 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: It's not in me right like you say that there 365 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: was like neither of these dates like made me feel anything. 366 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: No, I think I no, You're you're spot on. 367 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 3: All right, And I'm not trying to hate. I'm not. 368 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: No, I think you're spot on. I'm just saying, okay 369 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: that I think the outcome here that could happen is 370 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: that he has a complete reversal in terms of his 371 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: protecting of himself his care for some of these women, 372 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: and as it gets more emotional and closer to the end, 373 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: maybe he cares enough to actually open up and we 374 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: have this like rising from the ashes, this phoenix type 375 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: moment will where mel all of a sudden captures our 376 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: hearts because we see him become human and we see 377 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: his real self shine. Right now, I'm giving it the 378 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: benefit of it out. This is new, it's on television, 379 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: there's cameras, there's people, it's still early, and so they're 380 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: just not good at it yet and that's okay. 381 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's never gone through a season before. 382 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: No, some people good at it. 383 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: I think Debbie's good at it. 384 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: I think she's great. She seemed very relaxed. 385 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, she's the perfect candidate for the show. She's 386 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: never been married. 387 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great. And there's some others that I think 388 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: just have such big personalities that they'll be fine because 389 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: that's who they are. But there's some I think there 390 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: are some that's going to get kind of pushed aside. 391 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: Kathy and Susan show back up to the Mansion while 392 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: this date is going on. Those two have always been 393 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: good at television. They were good at television from the 394 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: moment they started, and they're good at television now. And 395 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: they are a comedy act of just being together, like 396 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: just the two of them in the same room. There's 397 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: gonna be something that happens that either makes you laugh, cry, 398 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: or shake your head in like awe of something happening. 399 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: And I'm assuming this is the vibrator part for you. Yeah, yes, 400 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 3: well didn't know what a vibrator was. 401 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: There's zero chance. I just don't believe it. Like, you 402 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: don't have to be a connoisseur of them, you don't 403 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: have to like use them, you know what they are? Yeah, 404 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean like you're maybe not Okay, let's say she's 405 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: telling the truth. I love this, Ashley. Kathy and Susan 406 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: have this deep desire we know them personally, We love 407 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: them personally. I have known Kathy and Susan for years 408 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: and smith so many great memories with them, and. 409 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: I really have my first personal body experienced them this 410 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: week and it lived up. It was so good. 411 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: It's so good. They have this deep desire to care 412 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: well and to give advice because they are wise and 413 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: they give great advice, and they want to be that 414 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: kind of influence on not only people our age, but 415 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: also you know people their age who are now going 416 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: on the show, Like this is the perfect role for them. 417 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: I think the show called them and said, hey, you 418 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: got to buy your own plane to get hotel room, 419 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: you got to pay us actually to come on the show, 420 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: but you're gonna get to give advice. And they're both 421 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: like yes, in one hundred percent and you can tell 422 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: that they're genuine in this advice that they're giving these women. 423 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: They care about their experiences. They want these women to 424 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: shine because if you ask the two of them, their 425 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: biggest hope for the Golden Show is that it just 426 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: brings this rejuvenated life to the people coming on it, 427 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: like that they see themselves in a light that's like 428 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: I can do new things. Yeah, it's great. 429 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: It was great. I wish we saw them with with 430 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: mel two because how funny would it be to have 431 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: them interrogate him and crack that egg. 432 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they'd be tough on them. 433 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know Kathy would say the most outrageous things. 434 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: I'd love it. So I don't know. I want to 435 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: be one thousand percent to see them back. Really, I 436 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: love Jesse. They could host this show. 437 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: And yeah it could or would it. 438 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: Get to like it wouldn't be serious enough. 439 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be. I mean, I think it'd just be 440 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: I think they can get serious, but I think it 441 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: would be a lot of like talking over each other the. 442 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: Most talking over each other. But they are seriously best 443 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: best friends, Like when they sat next to each other 444 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: on the bus in Louis the Jonas concert like they 445 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: just their energy between them is so comfortable. It's as 446 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: if like it's the same energy that I have with 447 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: the best friend that I've known for way longer than 448 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: the two of them have known each other. And for 449 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: that kind of bond to happen when you are in 450 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: your seventies, for them, that's wild, especially since like I 451 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: don't know, like you and me think, could I really 452 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: make a best friend in my thirties. I don't know 453 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: if I'm gonna make a best friend in my thirties. 454 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: I can make like some friends. 455 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: But I absolutely adore those two and I do think 456 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: they actually could have huge parts in the show. We're 457 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: all better off when they're on our televisions. We're better 458 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: off when we're listening to them. They still have their podcast. 459 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: We're better off when they are around. And here's the 460 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: cool part about them. When they're on television, especially, there's 461 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: gonna be something that happens that's memorable. This memorable moment 462 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: was the two of them gifting the women vibrators. 463 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: Ben feels awkward. 464 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel awkward to talk about. It does 465 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: a little bit. I think in thought it was going 466 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: to be a bigger like scene. It really was quick. 467 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: We didn't get a lot of like funny one off 468 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: comments or like anybody being like, oh, let me leave, 469 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: Like I think that's what the show is wanting. Nobody 470 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 2: really did that for whatever reason, so it just kind 471 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: of came and went and like that was it. But 472 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: it's absolutely hilarious to me that Kathy and Susan said 473 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: let's bring them a gift. Somebody around somebody said it 474 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: going to be a vibrator and they said, yes, perfect. 475 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny. So do we even have We 476 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: don't even have like a we have a little bit. 477 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: We had the miniest cocktail party before the rose ceremony, 478 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: and it's all about Carol, who I do want to 479 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: see all the Carol. I love Carol. There's something about 480 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: her that I think is she's like, she's pretty, but 481 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 3: she's relatable because she's nervous and she feels awkward around him, 482 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: and we love that she admits this. And I didn't 483 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: know that she was going to get a rose because 484 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 3: one I think that was the first kiss. Her first 485 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: kiss with him was after that conversation, and she was like, 486 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't a make ad, it was just like a 487 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: little kiss. I just felt like he wasn't vibing her, 488 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: and maybe it's because she doesn't like present herself with 489 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: like the ultimate like confidence and she's not suavee like 490 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: I feel like he's expecting a lot of them to be. 491 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: Then there's also so yeah, but she ends up getting 492 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: a rose the last row, and I really think that 493 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: she made not last long. And that's crazy because you 494 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: and I both took her to the very end pretty 495 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: much practically the very end. Another point that I want 496 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: to make about the rose ceremony the kissing of all 497 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: of them, Like when he went down the row and 498 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: he kissed everybody on the lips? What was that? That 499 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: was weird? 500 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 501 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: I don't that was so weird, Like one of them said, 502 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: Cindy was like, I'm not going to kiss him after 503 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: everybody else, so I'm just going to go right in 504 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: for it, like first second in line, super super super weird. 505 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: What's his name from Family Feud? 506 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: Who? 507 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the Family Feud host? No, not Steve Harvey, 508 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: like one of the ogs. He used to embarrass it, 509 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: like it was his shtick that he would kiss like 510 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: all the women in the family on the lips. Before 511 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: the game started. 512 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: That feels that feels like it would definitely not. 513 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: It's just like this whole row of women going lah lah. 514 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: It's very weird to me. 515 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: Richard Dawson. 516 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very like it's almost like cult. Like honestly 517 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: say that. 518 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: It's like we're worshiping a little bit too much. If 519 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: he gets welcome with the line of kisses. 520 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels very, very weird for so many reasons. 521 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like the place this 522 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: season is going. Again, this should be rated elderly television, 523 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: elderly TV. We're turning it into something so different. But 524 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not getting paid to produce a show, 525 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: so who am I to say anything? 526 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: It's true man, all right. My last comment about the 527 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: Rose ceremony was Cindy. Cindy is so and him has 528 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: been throughout the entire episode. Was last week, she's like 529 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: freaking out because she feels like she's falling in love 530 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 3: with him. I really like Cindy. I want him to 531 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: give her as much as she's giving him. Yeah, and 532 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I think this man really likes kind 533 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: of like hard to get, but like not hard to get, 534 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: like if you are physically easy to get, like Nicole, 535 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: I think he's down. If you're like emotionally intense, I 536 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 3: think you might scare him. I think Cindy might scare him. 537 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: I hope she doesn't. 538 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: What if that's a sign of the interest that the 539 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: lead actually has him being there? Yeah, if the lead 540 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: really wants to be there, they will do whatever they 541 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: can to hear everybody's story to the level that somebody's 542 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: able to share it. If the lead doesn't really want 543 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: to be there, which we've had the leads of The 544 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: Bachelor especially do this, they don't really carry conversation. They're 545 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: kind of checked out. They say things that don't really 546 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: make sense just to fill space, and they kiss all 547 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: the time because they don't actually want to talk. They 548 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: don't actually want to invest any heart and soul into 549 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: this thing. So far, I think that's where we're at again. 550 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: I hope that changes. I believe it could change. I 551 00:28:53,200 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: believe people like mel oftentimes can be can learn a lot. 552 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying he has a lot to learn 553 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: in life. I just think this process can teach you 554 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: a lot, and like vulnerabilities come out because real feelings 555 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: start to be felt. And you don't know what to 556 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: do with it, and so you just start breaking. I 557 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: think the most defensive guarded people on this show are 558 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: often the ones that we end up getting the most 559 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: beautiful story from. So I'm hoping for that for mel. 560 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't know though, but I'm hoping for it. 561 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll get it in somewhere or another. 562 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: Never fails. We got the Row ceremony at the pool. 563 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: New location, interesting location, beautiful location. Don'tuh, don't hate it. 564 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: I like it. The pool feels normal natural to me. 565 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: They haven't changed it. Let's just do it out there then, 566 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: all right, So our bracket, how is that doing? 567 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: With the elimination of Monica B Monica, p Amy, and 568 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: Terry go home, I think I'm still in last place 569 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: in the whole six thousand person bracket. 570 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: My lineup leaving this Rose ceremony was that it was 571 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: going to be Carol, Cindy, Debbie, Monica who is eliminated, 572 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: Roxane who's still there, and Nicole. So actually, I'm not 573 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: doing as bad as I thought now that we've gotten 574 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: to this point. 575 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're crushing me, absolutely destroying nobody. Hey, big weird moment. 576 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: Nicole does say during this preview that she wants to 577 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: become an influencer. Nothing can become more cringey to me 578 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: than somebody's saying they want to become an influencer, even 579 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: just any anytime, Like I just don't like it. I 580 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: think you yeah, of course, like, hey, I want to 581 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: become an influencer. I think you're I think I hear that, 582 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: and I say, you you feel like you are a 583 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: type of person that should be influencing others. 584 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: Ben that is so accurate. And also, I mean, I 585 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: can't even describe what I do when people say, like, 586 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: what do you do? Like if a stranger were to 587 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: talk to me, I'm like, I have no idea how 588 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: to describe this. I would never say, oh, I'm an influencer. 589 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: It's just so correct. Yeah, okay, but yeah, Nicole says 590 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: at the kitchen table, I kind of want to be 591 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: more of an influencer. And here's the deal. I remember 592 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 3: watching it. I think what they could have sat downe 593 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: is made it look like she was the one who 594 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: said I want to be more of an influencer, but 595 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: she was actually quoting somebody else. There's a possibility of that, Okay, Like, oh, 596 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: she told me I want to be more of an influencer. 597 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 3: Good point, So it could be her, even though it 598 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: does seem based on character that she might just be 599 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: feeling very young. 600 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: Well, good for her, we should all feel young. 601 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: You're right, no shade, no shade. 602 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: We'll watch for that. We'll watch for some of the 603 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: other things in the preview, males kissing some people. He's 604 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: dancing a lot, obviously, we see some of the women 605 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: start to get after each other a little bit. We'll 606 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: see how this plays out. It's going to be very interesting, Ash, 607 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: I guess to end, let's just pick our top person 608 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: at this point. 609 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: My top person for me, I like Carol, like I 610 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: enjoy watching Carol. I believe that for him, his top 611 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: choice is actually going to be Cheryl. 612 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: Let's go. I don't hate that. I like Debbie and 613 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: Nicole right now, I just think I'm biased based on 614 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: what's happening in the house and what we've seen so far. 615 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: They both, you know, especially Debbie, seems like they could 616 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: actually make something work. Well, we'll be back. We have 617 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: a ton of stuff coming your way. Goodness, gracious, keep 618 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 2: updating the almost famous thread because we have some great episodes. 619 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: You're out there we have some great episodes that are 620 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: out now. 621 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: Been speaking of that, I can't wait to have everybody 622 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: out there here. How Deanna's date at the Jonas concert, which, yes, 623 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: location strange, but it's a podcast dating show. Okay, so 624 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: just be down. I can't wait to hear your recap 625 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: of it because I know how it went in real life. Yeah, 626 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 3: and I have a teaser. Oh, it's out. Okay, it's 627 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 3: gonna be a teaser. Okay, guys, go listen to it 628 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: this weekend. 629 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: It will come out. We have a lot of good 630 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: content on that. We just finished that interview breaking it 631 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: all down. Also, Ashley, on this October fifth, Chris Harrison, 632 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: Wells Adams and myself are going to be together having 633 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: a yacht party and New York City with city cruises. 634 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: We can't wait to see all the people out. It's 635 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun. 636 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, city cruises. Yeah, speaking of that, I 637 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: had a fantastic Jonas experience on a city cruise once. 638 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: It's probably the same boat. 639 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah where they are. 640 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: Wow, A meeting of the worlds, Yes, it was. It 641 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: was a three hundred person like fan event. 642 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what this is. Yeah, it's great. It's really fun, 643 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: and so I think anybody should come out, who's in 644 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: New York or Boston's going to be two nights before 645 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: we're actually going to be recording a show from the 646 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 2: vote as well, so people that are listening to Almost 647 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: Famous who made me live in a different part of 648 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,479 Speaker 2: the country could listen to the event in New York 649 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: here on the Almost Famous feeds. But again, I you know, 650 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: the point of this is doing it so people come, 651 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: so we can see you in person and hang out 652 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: with you. And like Ashley said, you had a great 653 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: event with the Jonases and why thirteen goodness gracious and 654 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: why not? And look at this twelve years later, you're 655 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: still showing up. 656 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: I am a loyal fan. 657 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: You are so loyal, all right. 658 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 3: I guys, I've been Ashley, I've been to leave Sea. 659 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: I follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 660 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.