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Speaker 1: college football. Plenty of college to go, but it is America.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with the National Football League this evening

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football, which ended up being more of a

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Speaker 1: and zero. But I've been thinking about this now since

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift had a ridiculous game. The defense has been

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Speaker 1: just a it's an overarching thing that I've been thinking about,

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Speaker 1: The Eagles have already gotten further than the Bills, because

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Speaker 1: was Jordan Love. I want to talk about him, but

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Speaker 1: first it's good to Kevin figures and find out what's trending.

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Speaker 4: KFE all right, Jason.

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Speaker 5: In Major League Baseball Friday night, Dodgers magic number to

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Speaker 5: clinch the NLS was lower to two after they beat

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Speaker 5: Seattle six to three behind home runs from a Yello

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Speaker 5: Rojas and James Outman. The loss kept the Mariners a

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Speaker 5: game and a half behind Houston in the American League.

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Speaker 5: West Texas was cursed on by Cleveland twelve three. The

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Speaker 5: Astra was lost in Kansas City four to two. Arizona

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Speaker 5: tied with Cincinnati for the final NL wild card after

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Speaker 5: beating the Cubs. Shytown is the second wildcard in our

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Speaker 5: four games, back of the Phillies for the top spot.

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia defeated the Cardinals five to four. You had victories

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Speaker 5: for Toronto, Milwaukee and Tampa Bay, who beat Baltimore seven

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Speaker 5: to one. Tampa and Baltimore tied to top to the

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Speaker 5: Al East Tigers. Miley walth the Angels eleven to two.

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Speaker 5: The big story coming out of Anaheim Angel Star showhial

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Speaker 5: Tiny's locker was cleaned out after the game. The team

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Speaker 5: said it would have an explanation on Saturday. And in

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Speaker 5: college football, Maryland defeated Virginia forty two to fourteen. You

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Speaker 5: had victories for Army and Air Force. Back to Jason Martin.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your k FIG. So what did I miss? By

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Speaker 1: the way, from your perspective, I said, the Dolphins offense,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense, the Niners. What else impressed you in

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Speaker 1: Week one? I was it?

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Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned the Dolphins offense. That was the most number.

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Speaker 5: I was unimpressed with the Charger defense from that standpoint.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I mean, correct me if

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Speaker 5: I'm wrong. Jason is in a brand States supposed to

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Speaker 5: be a defensive coach. Did I get that wrong?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's supposed to be a head coach, which

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Speaker 1: I already thought was a mistake. But yes, that is indeed,

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Speaker 1: that is indeed the case, and that defense has not

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Speaker 1: lived up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I'm slightly, but only slightly, surprised at

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Speaker 5: how bad Denver looked offensively. I thought that Sean Payton

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Speaker 5: would at least have them look at least a little

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Speaker 5: bit of a moticome better. I know that Russell Wilson's

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Speaker 5: completion percentage was solid, but what do you have twenty

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Speaker 5: four to twenty five completions for a buck seventy seven?

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Speaker 5: It's very unbecoming for like a guy who people still

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Speaker 5: think might be a Hall of Fame level quarterback but

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Speaker 5: certainly didn't play up to it last year. And so

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Speaker 5: far not off to a good start against a pretty

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Speaker 5: shaky Raider defensive backfield.

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Speaker 4: So that stood out to me.

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Speaker 1: All right, So when you mentioned the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Denver Broncos fan, So that one cut deep

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Speaker 1: and it was accurate. You're talking about people saying he's

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Do you think there's a possibility

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Speaker 1: you can play your way out of the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: Like if he had never had a career in Denver

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Speaker 1: and for whatever reason hung him up two years ago

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, do you think he has a better case

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Speaker 1: than he does right now? Has he actually hurt his

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Speaker 1: case by the last year, even with Hackett being his coach,

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Speaker 1: and now the way this has started, and even some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that leaked in the offseason with Peyton

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Speaker 1: basically saying, yeah, I kind of get that he's inauthentic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know this if this precipitous fall, at least

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Speaker 5: what it seems like, continues on this track, Let's say

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Speaker 5: his tenure of Denver is just a total disaster, they

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Speaker 5: don't make the postseason, his numbers continue to decline. I

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Speaker 5: do think it's not without without, you know, outside of

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Speaker 5: the rama possibility that he doesn't make the Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame despite winning a Super Bowl, making it back to

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Speaker 5: another putting up you know, just ungodly numbers at times

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Speaker 5: in Seattle, but you know a lot of times it's

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Speaker 5: how you finish and you get off to a great

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Speaker 5: start if you fall off, especially with all the expectations

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Speaker 5: in the world. And it's assumed that Denver, and you

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Speaker 5: know this as a Bronco fan, what were they missing

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Speaker 5: last year? They needed a quarterback, that was all, that

503
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Speaker 5: was the missing piece, and clearly that didn't come to fruition.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I definitely think that it's possible he can

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Speaker 5: play himself out of the Hall of Fame if this

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Speaker 5: thing goes off the rails the next couple of year.

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Speaker 1: Are you worried at all about the Eagles with what

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Speaker 1: I let off with talking about Hurts and the Eagles?

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Speaker 1: And are you worried at all with what you're seeing?

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Speaker 1: Or they're two and oh and you think everything's fine.

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Speaker 4: No, especially with a team like this.

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Speaker 5: And Nick Sirianni addressed it, you know, at the prior

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Speaker 5: the prior week in Week one saying like, you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe we should play our starters in preseason. You know

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Speaker 5: our offense, especially with how theirs is built, with rhythm

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Speaker 5: and timing in the run game and all that. I

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Speaker 5: do think not having preseason snaps has actually hurt them.

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Speaker 5: So they're fortunate and they're talented enough to be able

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Speaker 5: to be two and O and work their way through

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Speaker 5: their issues. They have some injury issues too that can't

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Speaker 5: be you know, left off the table, but I'm not

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Speaker 5: at all concerned, and I'm encouraged by the fact that

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Speaker 5: they're able to play poorly and still be two and

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Speaker 5: oh against Well, I don't think the Vikings are a

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Speaker 5: quality team overall, but I do think the Patriots are

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Speaker 5: a team They're at least going to be in the

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Speaker 5: fight for the majority of the season. So I'm actually

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Speaker 5: encouraged considering that they didn't play preseason and they've looked

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Speaker 5: as bad as they've looked, yet still found a way

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Speaker 5: to be two and oh No.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a decent way look and thought about that.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring it back in. I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about oh Tani maybe after the break, but I

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Speaker 1: was thinking, I mean, what your argument there about the

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Speaker 1: Eagles kind of flips. It's similar. It's like, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: are two to zero, playing poorly. I look at the

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Speaker 1: playing poorly side and say, hmm, is this a narrative

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Speaker 1: that needs to be explored? Not like hot take style,

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Speaker 1: but just is there something we need to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on here. You could look at it the other

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Speaker 1: way and say, yeah, well they beat New England and

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Speaker 1: they beat Minnesota and Minnesota whatever you think of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: This was the record last year and all of that.

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Speaker 1: They were definitely a team that I was waiting to fall.

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Speaker 1: But that was a team that didn't look very good

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Speaker 1: at all against Tampa Bay. And you even had Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this, but Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield came out and said, yeah, I was able to

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Speaker 1: read their hand signals. I knew exactly what they were

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Speaker 1: going to do on defense. That's not good. That's uh,

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Speaker 1: let's just say that's not what you're looking for at all.

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Speaker 1: Let's stay in that division. Though, before we get to

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Speaker 1: the break, I said, I wanted to talk about Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: so let's let's rap about him for a second. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love came in with a lot of eyeballs on him

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Speaker 1: because entering the year, I thought the most interesting storyline

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Speaker 1: was a two prong storyline about and centering around Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: but also centering around the Jordan Love experiment in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: He sat for a couple of years, he kind of

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Speaker 1: heard things being said about him when there was no

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Speaker 1: chance he was going to be playing because Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: was still there and they were even during all the

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Speaker 1: contract stuff and was he going to show up and

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Speaker 1: all of that. There was the storyline, and it just

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Speaker 1: felt like what came out about Jordan Love told you

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Speaker 1: that internally in the building, they didn't have any problem

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Speaker 1: with you thinking he just kind of wasn't it, And

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Speaker 1: it felt like if he was it, then they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have put up with what they put up with with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So Aaron goes to the Jets and yes,

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Speaker 1: we will to open hour two, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And then Jordan Love goes and he has

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Speaker 1: a solid debut. But once Aaron Rodgers the building, everything

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Speaker 1: that you hear about Jordan Love is positive. And I

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Speaker 1: take that well with maybe two grains assault and may

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Speaker 1: really because are they gonna come out and say he's

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Speaker 1: trash or his teammate's gonna come out and say his

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Speaker 1: garbage or his coach is gonna come out and say

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Speaker 1: that he should be thrown on a waste basket. No

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Speaker 1: one is going to say that, even if it were true,

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Speaker 1: because he's still your teammate. I guess there are a

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Speaker 1: few guys that would step out and do that, but

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Speaker 1: not before the guy plays his first game. You could

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Speaker 1: be watching him at practice in a packer's uniform and

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Speaker 1: know in your heart, oh man, he is just not

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Speaker 1: very good, but you're not gonna say that publicly. I

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Speaker 1: always make the same example when I think it was

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule. When Matt Rule took over in Carolina and

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton was still the quarterback at the time, he

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Speaker 1: said all these nice things about Cam Newton, and I

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Speaker 1: saw it reported like, oh, he's definitely on board with camp.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, no, crap, he's on board with him

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Speaker 1: right now. He's still there. He's not going to bury

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Speaker 1: him while he's still an employee, and probably he won't

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Speaker 1: after the fact because he has no experience anyway with

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Speaker 1: which to pull from him to talk about Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: one way or the other. That wasn't to say that

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton was or wasn't what Matt Rule was saying.

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Speaker 1: It was just I mean, what else are you supposed

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Speaker 1: to say about a current member of your organization other

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Speaker 1: than support him. What benefit do you get if you're

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Speaker 1: a Green Bay player and you cut an interview where

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Speaker 1: you say, yeah, Jordan Love's just not very good. That

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Speaker 1: would never happen. So there's a ton of pressure on

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love because of who he's replacing, and really the

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Speaker 1: legacy right because it's it went farv to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: So you got Hall of Famer to Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in the making, but we know he's

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Speaker 1: going to walk right into the Hall of Fame deservedly

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Speaker 1: so and now you got Jordan Love, and how long

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Speaker 1: is he going to have to prove himself? In Week one,

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Speaker 1: he gets Chicago and they beat Chicago, and that's good,

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Speaker 1: and he looks good in the process. His numbers were

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Speaker 1: decent enough. I mean, they weren't knock your socks off outstanding,

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Speaker 1: but he played within himself. That was a solid performance.

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Speaker 1: They win the game by double digits. And it was

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Speaker 1: on the road against Chicago with another guy with a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him in Justin Fields. I would

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Speaker 1: slow down with some of the stuff that I saw

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Speaker 1: this week about well, this is proof of concept. It's like, nah,

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Speaker 1: that was one week. Just like I said, everything that

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Speaker 1: all the analysis that we do, and by we I

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Speaker 1: mean anybody in the media this past week or even

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Speaker 1: this coming week. We need to kind of slow down

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Speaker 1: a bit because there's a lot of football left to

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Speaker 1: be played. One game in the books, but what does

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Speaker 1: that actually say. Well, Jordan Love's next task gets to

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Speaker 1: go to air to Atlanta and play against the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: So he gets the Bears and the Falcons on the

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Speaker 1: road and then he go then he brings New Orleans

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Speaker 1: and the Lions to Lambeau for a month. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: can have a conversation right now. Goodwin, he's one to zero.

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Speaker 1: We got to evaluate him fairly, and that means not

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Speaker 1: placing too much of an expectation on him and not

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Speaker 1: killing him when he has a bad week. He didn't

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Speaker 1: have a bad week. That's a positive. That's all that

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Speaker 1: you really want to see when we come back Otani.

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Speaker 1: I'll read you the piece out of the La Times

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Speaker 1: tonight about Otani and his locker. This doesn't sound great

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Speaker 1: if you're an Angels fan. Apparently they're gonna explain it

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Pertie Fredo. He's out this evening. I

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Speaker 1: thought he will be back next week, of course, hardest

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Speaker 1: workingman in show business. We are live in the Tyraq

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Speaker 1: dot com studios. I'm Jason Martin. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, x whatever. Jmar Radio is where I'm there,

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Speaker 1: all right, So I want to read this directly from

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Speaker 1: the from the Los Angeles Times Sarah Alanzewela about ten

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Speaker 1: to twenty one Pacific time. Most of show hey Otani's

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Speaker 1: personal belongings were missing from his locker inside the Angels

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Speaker 1: clubhouse following the team's eleven to two loss to the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Tigers on Friday night. All of his shoes were gone,

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Speaker 1: as were small personal items he received from friends and teammates.

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Speaker 1: What remained was a singular bottle of cologne, a couple

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Speaker 1: of Angel shirts, and Angels toiletries bag, his Seattle All

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Speaker 1: Star Game duffel bag, and the dust marks left behind

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Speaker 1: by objects that had held their place for so long.

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Speaker 1: Even Otani's water jug was in the garbage. Looking for answers,

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Speaker 1: Reporters lingered in the clubhouse for thirty minutes. The Angels

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Speaker 1: declined to comment on Otani's locker, other than saying they

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Speaker 1: would provide an update Saturday. Otani had been in the

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Speaker 1: stadium and in the clubhouse prior to the Angel's loss,

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Speaker 1: and it ends Otani is set to become a free

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Speaker 1: agent after the World Series unless the Angels resign him.

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Speaker 1: It's possible he's already played his final game in an

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Speaker 1: Angel's uniform. And that's Sarah Aalzuela of the La Times.

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Speaker 1: There's also a story over the last day or so

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Speaker 1: that there is possibly interest from Otani to the Boston

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Speaker 1: Red Sox. I don't know what all this means. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what clearing out his locker means, other than

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Speaker 1: maybe it means he's not going to be doing anything

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Speaker 1: else this season, and you know, the Angels are out

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Speaker 1: of it, so okay, but it definitely gives off the

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Speaker 1: impression of things not being quite right when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the future, if you're an Angels fan hoping that

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Speaker 1: show Heyo Tani was gonna stick around, and there was

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Speaker 1: there was a reason for optimism in the decision making

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Speaker 1: process in terms of keeping him around, because I don't

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Speaker 1: think you keep him around if you have a zero

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Speaker 1: percent chance of bringing him back, and you would have

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Speaker 1: that information, and there was talk he liked that part

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Speaker 1: of the country. He liked being a little bit on

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Speaker 1: a team that was out of the spotlight when it

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Speaker 1: came to not being Yankees like or whatever. But now

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Speaker 1: he's looking at the Red Sox. So if that's true,

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Speaker 1: then the West Coast and the big market and all

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Speaker 1: the eyeballs, all that stuff goes out the window at

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Speaker 1: that point if the Red Sox are in the discussion.

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Speaker 1: It was the same thing we heard. Money wasn't really

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Speaker 1: a big thing for him. I mean, he was gonna

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Speaker 1: be taken care of, but that it wasn't like the

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Speaker 1: be all end all like it could be. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot that's been said, but through it all, we

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Speaker 1: haven't heard anything from Otani that hasn't been a discussion.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a bunch of interviews with show Hey

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Speaker 1: Otani over this situation. It's all kind of been from

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Speaker 1: those that cover the league, those that cover the team,

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Speaker 1: those that have you know, spoken to some of the

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Speaker 1: folks on his side, all of that. But if you've

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Speaker 1: you don't clean out his locker in this way and

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Speaker 1: then say we're going to have an explanation on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: unless the explanation is probably not going to be great,

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Speaker 1: and they're not that explanation is not gonna be Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be somewhere else next year. I assume it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be he shut down for the year. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna he's gonna go ahead and get to the offseason,

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Speaker 1: all of those things. But if you're an Angels fans,

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Speaker 1: now what you want to hear, and if you're anybody else,

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Speaker 1: it just tells you, okay, well he's not coming back.

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Speaker 1: And if indeed that's the case. And all of this

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Speaker 1: has spiraled in a bad way since the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: and since they didn't make any kind of a deal

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Speaker 1: and they did go ahead and keep him around, Ardi

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Speaker 1: moreno now has it sitting on his plate that it

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Speaker 1: comes across more like it was zero percent than we

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Speaker 1: thought it wasn't the fifty to fifty that some people said,

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Speaker 1: or the forty sixty that they did have a shot

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Speaker 1: because of Otani's sort of unique ideas about where he

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Speaker 1: felt like he would be happiest, and he was happy

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Speaker 1: being an angel, and he was happy in all of

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Speaker 1: those scenarios if you got nothing for him, and these

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Speaker 1: things were true at that point, Man, the Angels look bad.

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Speaker 1: They look worse than they have looked on the field

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Speaker 1: since the All Star Break. They look worse than they've

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Speaker 1: looked as an ORGANZTA. I mean, they've paid a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys big money, big names, big money, and they

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Speaker 1: still haven't won with them. We know what Mike trout

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Speaker 1: can do, and Mike Trout's going to go down as

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go down as a player that's been one

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Speaker 1: of the best of all time and he's never played

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Speaker 1: in a meaningful game maybe entire MLB career outside the

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic. And maybe that's the story with Otani.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to keep an eye on that,

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Speaker 1: and I guess wait for the explanation on Saturday when

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Speaker 1: we come back. No explanation needed. The Jets are in trouble.

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Speaker 1: We talk about the story of the week next our

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Speaker 1: two Bernie Frado Show, Bernie's out, Jason Martin is in today.

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Speaker 1: Bernie will be back with us next week. Well deserved

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Speaker 1: evening off, Morning off for me, it's morning. I'm in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: this show without talking about what is easily the story

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Speaker 1: of the week. Now we got a story in college football,

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Speaker 1: actually two and we'll lead the third hour talking about

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Speaker 1: that college football story, you know, the one where you've

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Speaker 1: got multiple networks hosting pregame shows in the same place

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Speaker 1: for the same game, and you've got a coach that's

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Speaker 1: come out and said maybe the dumbest thing you could

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Speaker 1: say going into that game, especially against these guys who

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Speaker 1: do everything they can to create bulletin board material. So

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Dion and Colorado here in a bit.

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Speaker 1: But the story that week in sports is Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Monday Night ratings I think was highest ever.

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Speaker 1: It was a great matchup, we were all excited about it.

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Speaker 1: To get Bill's Jets right out of the gates just

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Speaker 1: felt special. And it's still I mean it's still felt

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Speaker 1: special at the end. You got the overtime finish and

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Speaker 1: all of that, but the backdrop of it is Jets fans.

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Speaker 1: The curse continues because Aaron Rodgers four plays into his career,

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Speaker 1: as a Jet goes down, it's a torn achilles kind

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Speaker 1: of gets twisted around on a tackle and now he's

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Speaker 1: done for the year. And the Jet we mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the first hour of the AFC East just how loaded

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Speaker 1: it was, especially with three teams when it came to

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Speaker 1: being very difficult to pick. And the Patriots are again

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Speaker 1: I understand Patriots are gonna be a nuisance, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they are the kind of team that

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Speaker 1: needs to be in the discussion of winning the division. Now, hey,

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Speaker 1: they gonna beat Miami, we can have a different kind

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Speaker 1: of conversation, but that's still a division game, and there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be some they're gonna beat each other down. Some

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Speaker 1: of these teams are gonna beat each other down. Whoever's

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Speaker 1: the healthiest between I guess at this point probably Buffalo

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Speaker 1: in Miami is Ultimately I still think it to win

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Speaker 1: the division because without Aaron Rodgers, you're going with Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I do want to thank the deities of football for

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Speaker 1: killing off the myriad and you saw coming and then

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Speaker 1: here it is on television, on radio, everywhere you look.

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Speaker 1: The next day we got we have to ask the

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Speaker 1: Tom Brachy question. Now, no, you really don't, you don't,

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Speaker 1: you don't, please don't. Is there a universe where you

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Speaker 1: could see him doing it? Yeah, of course, because he's

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But I actually think this is this one.

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Speaker 1: It's time to let this one go. Let him have

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Speaker 1: his year where he pops up here and there, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, next year, let him begin his broadcast career.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the next phase of his life. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's let the man retire. Let's not immediately try to

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Speaker 1: find a way to get him back into the league immediately.

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Speaker 1: I understand why you would want to do that, but

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Speaker 1: I would even say that if you watched that last

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Speaker 1: season with the Bucks, he wasn't quite the same. He

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Speaker 1: was still good don't get me wrong, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: quite the same this Jets team. What's painful about this

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Speaker 1: for Jets fans, the most painful is you had a

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Speaker 1: team that was already made, that was a quarterback away,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of knew it last year. You did

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Speaker 1: what you needed to do in the draft. You acquired

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Speaker 1: who you needed to acquire. The defense stout Salah looks

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Speaker 1: like he can be your guy. Everything felt right. You

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Speaker 1: get a good draft pick in Brice Hall, he goes

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Speaker 1: down with the injury, but now he's back. You also

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Speaker 1: add Dalvin Cook to butcher stat backfield a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: We already know what Garret Wilson can be for you.

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Speaker 1: You feel good about it, and you bring in Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and you get Alan Lazard and Lazard is no

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Speaker 1: slouch team. He might not be a real number one,

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Speaker 1: but he is definitely a two slash three at worst

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Speaker 1: on just about any team in the league. He's big,

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Speaker 1: and he has great rapport with Rogers, so that was

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Speaker 1: just going to be a smart mixture. Anyway, everything felt

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Speaker 1: like it was there for something momentous, something historic. Could

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Speaker 1: they win a Super Bowl? I have my doubts, but

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Speaker 1: the fact that you could ask the question and not

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Speaker 1: be laughed out of the rooms, know you what it

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Speaker 1: meant what this season could be for the Jets, And

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Speaker 1: that's just it's not a franchise you talk about in

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Speaker 1: those terms. And Aaron goes down and it feels like, well,

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Speaker 1: the Jets are cursed. It's kind of like, man, you

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Speaker 1: know what the Mets were supposed to be entering this

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Speaker 1: past season. As a Braves fan, I am really trying

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Speaker 1: hard not to smile as I mentioned this how badly

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Speaker 1: it's gone for the Mets. But I don't have to

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Speaker 1: fake the smile here because I'm frowning when I talk

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Speaker 1: about Edwin Diaz and what happened in the World Baseball

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Speaker 1: Classic and from there it all went downhill, and that

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Speaker 1: stunk quite Frankly. I felt terrible for the Mets fans

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Speaker 1: that I know and for any Mets fan, and I

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Speaker 1: certainly felt awful for Daz, because first off, he's great

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Speaker 1: for baseball and just the experience and the music and everything,

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Speaker 1: the Timmy trumpet and all of it was just awesome.

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Speaker 1: And for that to happen and then not to get

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Speaker 1: to experience, you know what he could have meant to

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Speaker 1: that Mets team what he could have done for them,

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Speaker 1: and it just it just felt like the air sucked

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Speaker 1: out of the room at that point. That was it. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing going to happen here. They beat

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Speaker 1: the Bills with the punt return in overtime. Held On

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Speaker 1: won that game with you know, the emotions of September

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Speaker 1: eleventh in New York just everything was there for us.

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Speaker 1: It just felt like the Jets needed to win that game,

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Speaker 1: and they did. But now, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Because you go to Dallas now and your success, your future,

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Speaker 1: your ceiling are in the hands of Zach Wilson. And

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Speaker 1: if you watch and look, Zach Wilson has said a

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Speaker 1: lot of smart things this week, after saying a whole

856
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of not so smart things up to this point

857
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: in his career. Certainly last year he said, I'm just

858
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: trying to learn everything I can be Aaron Rodgers, like,

859
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: not take his job, but just pick up everything I

860
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: can from him, learn everything I can from him. All

861
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: of that. That's a far cry from the I'm gonna

862
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: make that guy's life a living bleep whoever comes in

863
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: here to try and take my job, which he said

864
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: last time. And then of course it's Aaron Rodgers, and no,

865
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: you're not going to make his life a living bleep.

866
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: You might want to go back to, I don't know,

867
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: pushing Chris Streveler in a locker. I'm not sure. But

868
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: if you watched Zack Wilson, and you know, I even

869
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: saw people raving about how he played in the preseason,

870
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: and that was all I needed to know to recognize

871
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: for now and evermore, that preseason is irrelevant because if

872
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: you tell you know, Zach Wilson looked pretty good tonight, Oh,

873
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: that must not have been something that mattered. I say

874
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: that's sort of sort of as a joke because I'm

875
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: certainly not rooting against him, but I just never got

876
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: it coming out of college. I still don't quite get it.

877
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: And then if you all on Monday in his hands,

878
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: it just they can't. There's this there's only so far

879
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: you can go with that guy as your quarterback. Everybody

880
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: knows it. So I don't know if the story is

881
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: as much about the Jets immediate future, which is certainly

882
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll find out immediately. You're going to

883
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: Dallas and that defense against that quarterback, that's frightening. Although

884
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: you've got a decent o line and you still have

885
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: those weapons. Maybe he's accident come out in surprising people.

886
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: But the flip side is Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers off

887
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: a torn achilles at forty years old. Is he gonna

888
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: come back? Well, he tells Pat McAfee, Yeah, I'm gonna

889
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: be back. He says, watch this. In effect, that's not

890
00:48:52,960 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: the exact quote, but it's pretty close. Basically, I know

891
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: for a fact that I am coming back from this.

892
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: He even said he didn't rule out the idea of

893
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: being back before the end of the year from a

894
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: torn achilles. And he's got a doctor that has a

895
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: track record of getting guys back fairly quickly. That's great.

896
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: I still can't imagine that. But he said, he said,

897
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: give me your doubts and watch what I do. He

898
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: seems driven to come back. It's really been interesting to

899
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: watch this version of Aaron Rodgers, not this week, but

900
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: since leaving Green Bay, since it was really over and

901
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: he became a jet officially, not that interim period where

902
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: the deal hadn't been made, but everybody was acting like

903
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: it was already done and you heard it from both sides,

904
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: but you were waiting on just like how it was

905
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: all going to arrange itself and all of that once

906
00:49:54,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: he was actually a jet. The things he has said,

907
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: the way he has conducted himself, even the way he's

908
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: been just in interview spots, when he's been on television

909
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: doing anything, it's just been a different guy. It's been

910
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: a completely different version. Like that stock action figure that

911
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: you always had with Aaron Rodgers. Well now there's like

912
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: a new addition for the first time ever, and you

913
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: see that thing on the shelf and you're like, man,

914
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: that thing is just that is not the same. And

915
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying the opposite.

916
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: But he's been very politically astute. He's been very shrewd

917
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: in what he's saying. He has said all the right things.

918
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: He's been kind of the consummate teammate. He's been perfect.

919
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: He's talked about how important it is, how he wants

920
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: to bring a championship to New York. He has been

921
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: very kind of raw, raw in a way that you

922
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: just didn't get with Bay over the last few years.

923
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: It's not like he didn't care that they lost, it's

924
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: just there was something about this where he wanted to

925
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: be embraced by New York almost as if he knew

926
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: that was that could be a challenge for him if

927
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: he was not cautious, but that if he came in

928
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: there and he sold the right attitude and the right mentality,

929
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: they were going to get on board. And they have.

930
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: And now he's saying, watch this, I'm coming back. Ain't

931
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: no way my career is going out like this. Jets fans,

932
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: get ready. That's what New Yorkers want to hear. Now

933
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: he's forty. The Achilles injury is not an easy one

934
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: to come back from, and a lot of people are

935
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: never the same. But he's not a guy that's gonna

936
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: be scrambling a whole lot at this stage in his career,

937
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: although he's always been kind of sneaky good at it

938
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: when it comes to he's very strategic in the way

939
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: that he runs, and he just like Mahomes, those are

940
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: the two guys that do this, and it drives me

941
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: insane whenever my team is playing against either one of them.

942
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: They're the guys that tiptoe the sideline and don't just

943
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: immediately run out of bounds, and then if you hit them,

944
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: it ends up being a penalty because they'll just step

945
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: out right before you hit them to make sure that

946
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna be added yards. But if you're afraid to

947
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: do it because you think that's what they're gonna do,

948
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: then they keep tiptoeing down the sideline and basically play

949
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: chicken with you until you do that move. It's a

950
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: brilliant strategy like it no shame in their game. It

951
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: drives me insane because I'm not you know, I haven't

952
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: been a fan of the teams that they are playing

953
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: for in games against my squads particularly. But Aaron Rodgers

954
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: at this stage, what is his career? He says he's

955
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: coming back. I you know, when the injury happened. You

956
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: think about the nature of the end, the difficulty of

957
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: the rehab to come back from the injury, and just

958
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: how dialed in was Aaron Rodgers to still playing football.

959
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: Did you buy into what he was saying during the offseason,

960
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: even if he knows for a fact right now he's

961
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: not coming back. There's no benefit in saying my career

962
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: is over. You do everything that you can and then, man,

963
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, we've had a setback, and I just don't

964
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: think that I don't feel like I can be the

965
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that you guys need me to be if

966
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't come back. But it sounds like he's coming back,

967
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: and you know what, I believe he probably is unless

968
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: health eludes him. He does indeed have setbacks and he

969
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: actually can't come back from this. I don't think he's

970
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: just going to walk away, because he has a choice

971
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: to walk away. Had this same injury happened in Green Bay.

972
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: I think he probably retires. And that just shows how

973
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: ugly and personal things got in the latter stages of

974
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: his career in Green Bay. And this is I mean,

975
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: this is from an outsider's perspective, like I'm not inside

976
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: the Green Bay's building during that timeframe to be able

977
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: to tell you for sure, but it sure comes across

978
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: that way. It comes across that way even from people

979
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: that used to cover that team that have you moved

980
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: on to other things. The things that they still say

981
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers in the relationship with the Packers organization,

982
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: and if you look at the way he has acted

983
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: since he left, you can see that he almost wants

984
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: everybody to understand and he definitely wants them in Green Bay.

985
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: Not the fans of course, but the front office, the

986
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: guys that he butted heads with over and over, he

987
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: wants them to know, yeah, you could have had this,

988
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: but man, I really just didn't like you. So I

989
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna make it easy because this guy's been a

990
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: lot easier to root for, and unfortunately we only got

991
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: four plays. The question is, and we'll find out how

992
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: many more plays are left Aaron Rodgers hall of Fame career.

993
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: A guy that you think might be on a pathway

994
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: to a Hall of Fame career is Josh Allen. Now,

995
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the Bills in greater

996
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: detail than we did to open the program. So when

997
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to discuss the Bills. We

998
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: will talk about Alan. We're gonna play some audio from

999
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen for you as well in the wake of

1000
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: that loss. But we need to talk about just the

1001
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: organization as a whole, what we're seeing right now and

1002
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: what's on the line for this iteration and this conglomeration

1003
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: of individuals in the Buffalo Bills organization. That is next.

1004
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Martin and for Bernie Ferretto here on Fox

1005
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I heard our team tonight. I cost our

1006
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: team to night and it feels early similar to last year,

1007
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: and I hate that it's the same I do, Josh

1008
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: the four turnovers? Was that something, dude that they did

1009
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 1: or is that just you may forcing the ball, trying

1010
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: to force the ball on a little bit and trying

1011
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: to force the ball. Yeah, same place, different day. That's

1012
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen after the loss to the Jets. Of course,

1013
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: it's Bernie Fratto show here Fox Sports Radio Live in

1014
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: the tyrack dot Com studios. I'm Jason Martin in for

1015
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: Bernie here tonight. So Allen saying same bleep, different day,

1016
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: saying he costs the team turnovers like it's been a

1017
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: little rough for the Bills as of late, not because

1018
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: they lost the first game of the season, because you

1019
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: can certainly come back from ohen to one, and you

1020
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: have the talent on a team to come back from

1021
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: Owen one and anticipate you will. As a matter of fact,

1022
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna make an example of somebody this week

1023
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: because you have you have a game against a team

1024
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: that I feel like you should be able to beat

1025
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: pretty handily in the Raiders. But I think the bigger

1026
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: concern I wait, look, I let off the show talking

1027
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: about Johen Hurts and the Eagles, and I did say again,

1028
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there is reason to panic. I'm

1029
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: just saying if in a month we're still able to

1030
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: have a similar discussion, then I think the discussion needs

1031
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: to be very close to what we may be seeing

1032
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: with the Bills in the post Brian Dable in the

1033
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: coordinator role version of the Bills in that iteration of

1034
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: the Bills, because it hasn't quite been the same, and

1035
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: you even heard Josh Allen say this is eerily similar

1036
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: to last year. It is, and the thing that happened

1037
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: last year that wasn't there before, And of course that

1038
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: year before was the year with the classic game with

1039
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs in the playoffs where whoever won

1040
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: the coin toss was going to the super Bowl. Basically

1041
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: all of those things, everything that we saw Dable left,

1042
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: and then last year there was talk of, well, has

1043
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen regressed. I don't know if he regressed. It

1044
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: just wasn't quite good. The team just didn't feel the

1045
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: gelling wasn't there the same way. Diggs had a great

1046
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: year and then at the end he wasn't getting the

1047
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: ball quite enough, and you had that talk during the offseason,

1048
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: and you've had varying reports coming out about meetings that

1049
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: did or didn't happen and all this, and who cares,

1050
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: But the Bills were in the news for reasons other

1051
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: than what their record was going to be this year.

1052
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: During the off season, it was it was a bunch

1053
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: of it was a bunch of that kind of drama

1054
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: that they really haven't been a part of for this

1055
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: es actually with this group. And they go out and

1056
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: they lose to the Jets, especially with the circumstances and

1057
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: Rogers going down, and as we mentioned earlier September eleventh,

1058
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: and they lost in overtime. It's a division game against

1059
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: a team that they were going to be battling with

1060
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: all year long when it came to the standings and

1061
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: winning the division. And then Allen again says, this reminds

1062
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: me of last year. And it does. And the pressure

1063
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: on the Bills is enormous. It's not as much on

1064
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: Allen today because Alan's still young and he's still really good,

1065
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: even if you think maybe he was a little overhyped

1066
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 1: or overrated, or there were still those tendencies for him

1067
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Speaker 1: to be reckless with the football, to turn it over

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Speaker 1: way too much to try and do too much to

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Speaker 1: not play disc splendid times like you like that mentality

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Speaker 1: in him, but at the same time you sometimes just

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Speaker 1: want him to not do that live and play another down,

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Speaker 1: be a little bit safer. But if this is what

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Speaker 1: you got to take to get the greatness of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: then you accept it every time. I think the pressure

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Speaker 1: is much more on Sean McDermott in the immediate context,

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01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: because at some point not reaching the big game becomes

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01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: a fireball offense, it becomes a at least a hot

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Speaker 1: seat offense. It would be it's insane to say this

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Speaker 1: because of how successful he's been and of course how

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Speaker 1: class he's been and everything else. I mean, McDermott is

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01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 1: a good coach, but there are those guys that can

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Speaker 1: get you right to the the last stage before you

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Speaker 1: get to the apex of the mountain. But they can't.

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Speaker 1: They're not the Sherpa that's gonna get you all the

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Speaker 1: way to the top. They're gonna get you real close,

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Speaker 1: and then you have to bring in the closer to

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Speaker 1: finish the job. And it did feel like entering this

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Speaker 1: year that if the Buffalo Bills did not at least

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Speaker 1: reach the Super Bowl, that his job would be in jeopardy,

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Speaker 1: and maybe not, maybe he's gonna be there for another

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Speaker 1: decade regardless if they ever reached a Super Bowl. I'm

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Speaker 1: not suggesting he needs to be out. I'm just wondering

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Speaker 1: at what point what they've done is not enough, And

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Speaker 1: as the pressure mounts on them because of the expectations

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Speaker 1: of last year and the fact that they quite frankly

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Speaker 1: didn't live up to them. And now this year, you

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Speaker 1: look around if you're Buffalo, and you see, well, Kansas

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01:01:54,720 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: City is still Thanos. But now you've got since and

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Speaker 1: you've really got a loaded AFC. You've got young quarterbacks

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01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: that still haven't proven anything when it comes to the postseason.

1101
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Speaker 1: But and that's why I thought you needed to move

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Speaker 1: on from Brandon Staley is because I felt like you

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Speaker 1: had the pieces and you certainly have got the quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Justin Herbert. But if you've got a coach that's

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 1: tying a hand behind his back every time he goes

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01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: out on the field, then you might be wasting another

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01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: year of Justin Herbert's career. But you look around at conference,

1108
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: you look at the young guys, You even look at Jacksonville.

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01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: You look at this kind of new arrangement in Baltimore

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Speaker 1: with alt Greg Roman as the offensive coordinator, where it's

1111
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Speaker 1: really Lamar's show, but they're always sort of in the

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Speaker 1: mix anyway, that whole division is at least dangerous. You

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Speaker 1: got two in the West. You've got three in your

1114
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Speaker 1: own division with Miami and the Jets like this was.

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Speaker 1: You've even got Tennessee, Like I don't think Tennessee's a contender,

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01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: but Tennessee is always gonna be hard out. They just

1117
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: are because that's how veryble coaches. Ver Able coaches them

1118
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: better than their talent generally is. The Bills had this window,

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Speaker 1: if you want to call it, that last year where

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Speaker 1: they were the talk of the town. They weren't able

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Speaker 1: to close the deal. And the AFC has only gotten

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01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: tougher since, and it was already insanely difficult. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I think the pressure, as it continues to mount,

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Speaker 1: it's really going to show the metal. It's gonna test

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Speaker 1: these guys. It's gonna test McDermott, it's gonna test Allen,

1126
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna test Diggs, it's gonna test that defense. It's

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna test them all it's gonna test the entire organization

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Speaker 1: as to whether or not they're up for the challenge,

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Speaker 1: because it just gets greater. It just gets greater from here,

1130
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Speaker 1: and losing a division game the way that they did,

1131
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: especially coming off that offseason, and then Alan basically he

1132
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: even sounds it. I'm not saying he sounds defeated. He

1133
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: just sounds kind of stunned, like he's a champion level

1134
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: fighter who he just got punched in the mouth and

1135
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't really quite figured out how to come back

1136
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: from it. He's not out, the fight's not over. It

1137
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been stopped, and he hasn't been knocked out. But

1138
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: he needs to be saved by the bell, brought to

1139
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: the corner and kind of given the salts again, given

1140
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: the water to go back out there. Let's go out

1141
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: to Kevin Figures. Let's check on what is trending, and

1142
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: we'll come back on the other side and talk more

1143
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: about this and some trends in the NFL. But go ahead,

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Speaker 1: kyfig All.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, so pinner race is heating up.

1146
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 5: In the final couple of weeks here in the baseball

1147
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 5: regular season, you have the Dodgers picking up a six

1148
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 5: to three victory in Seattle Friday night. Despite Arizona's victory

1149
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 5: of the Cubs, LA's magic number to clinch the NLS

1150
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 5: is down to two. Arizona did snap a three game

1151
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 5: losing streak. They are tied with the Reds for the

1152
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 5: final National League wildcard spot. Cincinnati beat the Mets earlier

1153
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 5: on Friday, five to three. Houston and Texas both lost.

1154
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 5: Miami beat the Braves nine to six, while the Giants

1155
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 5: lost in Colorado. You had victories from Milwaukee, Tampa Bay,

1156
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 5: and Toronto, who shut out the Red Sox three nothing.

1157
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 4: And NFL News.

1158
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 5: Chargers running back Austin Eckler doubtful to play against the

1159
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 5: Titans with an ankle injury. Broncos receiver Jerry Judy will

1160
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 5: play against Washington after missing Week one with a hamstring issue.

1161
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 5: In college football, Air Force defeat at Utah State thirty

1162
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 5: nine to twenty one. It was Army thirty seven and

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Speaker 5: UTSA twenty nine. Maryland all over Virginia forty two to fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Back to Jason Martin.

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Speaker 1: K fig you worried about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: No, it's early on. Similar to the Eagles, but a

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01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 5: little bit different. But you're playing against equality defense, and

1168
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Speaker 5: I do think there's something to be said for after

1169
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers went down, the team kind of rallying and

1170
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 5: getting emotional and playing up. So I am not necessarily

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Speaker 5: concerned after just one game. Josh Allen at times in

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01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 5: his career has been a little bit reckless, but not

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Speaker 5: as reckless as he was on Monday Night. But overall,

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Speaker 5: I'm not overly concerned. What I am concerned about from

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01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 5: a Bills team standpoint the inability to run the ball,

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Speaker 5: and that was going to be an issue that we

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Speaker 5: saw coming into the season for them and has been

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Speaker 5: an issue in Josh Allen's tenure. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: he's going to be able to hold up a continue

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01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 5: to play out a high level, or if they're just

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 5: going to get to where they want to get to

1182
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 5: as a team, if they just don't have some semblance

1183
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 5: of a legitimate running game that doesn't involve Josh Allen

1184
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Speaker 5: being the focal point.

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Speaker 1: So James Cook's forty six yards not enough for you?

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, not doing a whole lot for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve carries forty six yards for James Cook. They

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Speaker 1: just I don't know, don't matter who they've had, they

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Speaker 1: have not been able to run the ball under Sean

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01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: McDermott at all, and it puts a lot on Josh Allen.

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01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point. I forgot to ask

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Speaker 1: you at the end of the last hour, Oh Taani,

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Speaker 1: what's the explanation that you're expecting from the Angels as

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Speaker 1: to why his locker was cleared out on Friday night?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think you hit it on the head. The explanation

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 5: can only be you know, he has an oblique injury.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't played in the last eleven games. We already

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Speaker 5: know he's not going to pitch anymore, and what's the

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Speaker 5: point of running him back out there in a lost season.

1201
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 5: So we're just gonna shut him out for the year.

1202
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 5: We send him home, and he's gonna reapp in the offseason,

1203
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 5: and you know, hopefully, if you're an Angel fan of

1204
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 5: the Angel organization, that the risk of not trading him

1205
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 5: at the deadline will bear fruit and you'll be able

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01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 5: to resign him. I'm not optimistic that that's gonna happen,

1207
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, but it was probably the

1208
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 5: best move for the team not going anywhere, and for

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01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 5: his individual future because he really has nothing to gain

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 5: by playing out the stream here.

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Speaker 1: No, that's fair, that's definitely fair. I wouldn't play him again,

1212
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: I definitely that has to be the explanation. I don't

1213
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: know why you wouldn't go ahead and nip that in

1214
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: the butt on Friday night, not let that join into Saturday.

1215
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: But I guess it's a dead period anyway, because considering

1216
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: the fact everybody's going to be watching and talking about

1217
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 1: college football in the NFL, you could slide that news

1218
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: in on Saturday and it's still going to feel like

1219
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: you were just kind of bearing that story. Anyway. We

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Speaker 1: are in the tire rack dot Com Studios. Ladies and gentlemen,

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01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 1: it is the Bernie Frado Show. Bernie is out well

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01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: deserved evening off. I'm Jason Martin in for him. I'm

1223
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. That's where I do this show from.

1224
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: I usually work with Aaron Torres on Saturday nights, and

1225
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I'll be working with him as

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01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: usual again this Saturday night. So you'll hear me now,

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Speaker 1: and you'll hear me for another hour, taking us to

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Speaker 1: five am on the East Coast, and then you can

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Speaker 1: check back in with me at eleven PM, and we

1230
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: will recap the college Football Day and lead you into

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: NFL Sunday as part of Fox Football Live. Looking forward

1232
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Speaker 1: to doing that. So some of the results a Week one,

1233
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Speaker 1: and you don't want to overreact to different things, but

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Speaker 1: I do look at certain things that say, well, what

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Speaker 1: did I believe before the season that certainly did not

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Speaker 1: change entering this year, and maybe not the obvious stuff

1237
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: like well I would say this. I mean the obvious

1238
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: stuff would include the Chiefs being good and the Bengals

1239
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: being good, and they both lost. But I think the

1240
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: Lions are pretty good. I have them picked to win

1241
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: that division. And you didn't have Christian or Travis Kelce.

1242
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: You will have both of them in on Sunday against Jacksonville.

1243
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: What a great game that is for Week two on

1244
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 1: the road at Jacksonville the Chiefs that that's gonna be

1245
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: a good one, a real good one. But things that

1246
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: you saw where this is probably not just a blip,

1247
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: or maybe it is just a blip. Depending Number one,

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01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: the Giants aren't great. They got to be forty to nothing.

1249
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get be forty to nothing every week.

1250
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: But I do think what you saw last year from

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Speaker 1: them them being a playoff team, I just don't since

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: they're a playoff team this year, I just don't. I

1253
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: think after the Eagles and the Cowboys, I think the

1254
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Speaker 1: Giants can finish fourth in that division and still not

1255
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: be bad. I'm not suggesting they're bad. I'm just suggesting

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of flaws there and a lot of

1257
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: reason for skepticism about what they can accomplish this year.

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Speaker 1: And I still just Danny Dimes. You didn't necessarily have

1259
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: a better option this year, But what you got from

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: him last year that even felt like better than you'll

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: ever get from him again, didn't feel like, oh, well,

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01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna ascend even further from here. I just didn't

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Speaker 1: see that. I felt like, all right, if he plays

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: the way he played last year for the rest of

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Speaker 1: his career, that he's gonna be able to help somebody.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not win a Super Bowl, but he's gonna be

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: able to help somebody. He's to have a decent career

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Speaker 1: in the league. But I would be surprised if the

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: version of him you got last year actually is duplicated

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Speaker 1: this year. Just it didn't feel sustainable to me, And

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01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: so I again not forty to nothing bad but a

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: Giants team that can be had on a fairly regular basis.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they had to have a

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Speaker 1: rough year. The Rams are want to know is that sustainable?

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, But they're not as bad as maybe

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: some of the stock going into the But Sean McVay

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01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: still knows what he's doing. They still have some talented guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't have Cooper Cup and they won

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01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: that game. They're not a contender. They may not even

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: have a winning record. I'm not sure. But when Stafford

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01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: is healthy, Stafford still looks awfully good and he looked

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: really good in that game. I like Kieron Williams. I

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: like what he was able to bring to that team.

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01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: He had I think he had more carries than Acres

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: in the game, and you know Acres, that whole thing

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01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: went real bad last year. But Williams coming in from

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, he he's a guy that he gives them something.

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: He gives them a different dimension in the way he

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: runs the ball and what he's able to do catching

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01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield as well. And it's

1291
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,839
Speaker 1: not like McVeigh has forgotten how to coach and especially

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: how to put together an offense, so they may not

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: be terrible. I actually think that one could be sustainable

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01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: to a degree. I don't think they're going to be

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Speaker 1: in the running for the first pick in the draft

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: if Sunday is any indication, And I have no reason

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01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: to think that it isn't the Bengals broken offense that

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01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: ain't gonna stick. I think the Bengals are still really good.

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Speaker 1: I think Burrow had a really bad day against the

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01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 1: team that he was already one in four against in

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01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: his career, and he had not played almost at all

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Speaker 1: in the preseason because of the injury. I just feel

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: like his ramp up period wasn't there, and so this

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01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: team is lacking cohesion a bit and it's gonna take

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01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: a minute for them to kind of find their stride.

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: And I think you can make the same argument, maybe

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: for Philadelphia for different reasons. But those are two football

1308
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: teams that are going to be hurt from at the end.

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01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: They are both contenders. They both could win at all.

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01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to panic. I will

1311
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 1: say the fact that it's them in the Ravens that

1312
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: is that's another great Week two matchup, But that one's

1313
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: in division, and that's the division that's going to be

1314
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: tight all year and they're gonna play really hard and

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01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: really physical football against each other all year long. And

1316
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be an absolute dog fight in Cincy

1317
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday with Baltimore, and then we already alluded to

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01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: this one, and then we'll get to the break. Lions,

1319
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, got the Chiefs. Sometimes it's just good to

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: have them on your schedule on a certain day. The

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: Lions are good. I don't think there's a fluke there

1322
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: at all. I think you've already seen enough to know that.

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: I like the Jamiir Gibbs pick. I think he's going

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01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: to help them. I think he is going to be

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: a nightmare for defenses. I love him, Mon Roth, Saint Brown.

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01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: I like everything that they're doing there. I really do.

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01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: And of course, you know James and Williams suspended, but

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: you didn't get much from him yet, but you know,

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: you know what he could do. I think it's more

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs. It's the Lions got the Chiefs in

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01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: Week one without Kelsey. They got the Chiefs in week

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: when Chris Jones sitting in a lot luxury box with

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01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: the holdout and good on them. You have to find

1334
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: something fortunate usually on the road to a great season,

1335
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: and you got. You had the Chiefs on the schedule

1336
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: to open your year. That was gonna be a tough

1337
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: one and it still was. But you caught them on

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01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: the right day and you won. And ain't nobody putting

1339
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: an asteris by it right like that's still going to

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01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: be a victory. There's still want to know in the

1341
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: in their win lost column and they beat the defending

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 1: champions first week. They're a good football team. Maybe a

1343
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: good football team that had that been a full strength

1344
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs team, they would have lost. But we'll never know,

1345
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter anyway. When we come back. Is

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01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: there anything more vintage Pac twelve than what we're seeing

1347
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: right now with a conference that the death knell has

1348
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: already been sounded. We'll talk about that when we come back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Martin and for Bernie Freddo here on Fox

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome back. It's now official. It is Fox

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: Football Saturday. It's Fox Football Live Bernie Frado Show. I'm

1352
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: Jason Martin in for the Big Guy. He's out this

1353
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: weekend Live in the Tirack dot Com studios. All right,

1354
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: so we're gonna shift gears and we go to talk

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01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: some college football, which is what we're gonna spend a

1356
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: whole lot of time doing tonight with Aaron Torres. Uh.

1357
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: Check us out on Fox Football Live to end your day.

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:38,520
Speaker 1: But is there anything more vintage PAC twelve than being loaded?

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: I mean, just nutso loaded with talent at quarterback at

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: that position, right, like the glitz position in all of

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01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: American team sports, to just be loaded, as you already

1362
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: have started etching PAC twelve's into the tombstone, right because

1363
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: the conference is dead because everybody's leaving and all this,

1364
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: and now you got Michael Pennix Junior, and of course

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: you have Caleb Williams, and you've got bow Nicks. The

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01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: list goes on and on and on. It's such a

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: deep conference from a quarterback perspective. Cam Rising hasn't played

1368
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: yet for Utah, but we know what he's capable of.

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01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it is it's crazy looking at that conference.

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01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: And I haven't talked about the you know, the Colorado

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: shaped elephant in the room. We'll do that to open

1372
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: the third hour. But Shodehra Sanders, you didn't even think

1373
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: that was going to be what it's been to open

1374
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: this season. At the very least, You've got a very

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01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: intriguing conference. You've got a deep conference. You've got Oregon

1376
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: State's a ranked football team to mention them in this mix.

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01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: Just a great year for the Pac twelve. Could be

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: maybe the deepest conference in the country. See, I live

1379
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: in SEC country, I'll live and breathe SEC football. And

1380
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: this year, the depth, it doesn't feel real deep right now.

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: Big ten. Yeah, a couple good teams, maybe three, And

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01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. Ohio State's good. I'll give you

1383
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: Michigan or I'll give you Penn State right now. Ohio State.

1384
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: We'll find out. But the Pac twelve is having this

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01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: unbelievable year. This should be a year that you should

1386
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: be able to really advertise the future of your conference. Belt.

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01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: Look at this, Look at this crop of quarterbacks, Look

1388
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: at the excitement, Look at the points being put up,

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01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: look at all this talent. And the conference is dead.

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01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing this in some kind of

1391
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: joking fashion, but it is just I've just put my

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: head down, I close my eyes, and I've got I've

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01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: got my thumb and my index finger over my eyeleds

1394
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: right now. You know that you've seen the meme or

1395
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,759
Speaker 1: maybe you've seen the You've seen the jeff of Captain

1396
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: Picard just putting his head down, just shaking his head.

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01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: I'm that emoji at this point talking about the PAC twelve,

1398
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at any stats. I know what the

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01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: talent is there. You have the defending Heisman Trophy winner

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: who's probably gonna win it again, who multiple teams in

1401
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: the NFL would be happy not to win in order

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01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: to get him for the next decade or fifteen years.

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01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: And then you have all the other guys that I

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01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: just listed. PACTOL football is great, Like I've watched a

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01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: lot of it this year. I'm going to continue to

1406
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: watch a lot of it. And it's just, man, this

1407
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: is a great conference. Too bad. We can't stay too bad.

1408
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: Everybody is about to leave, and college football as we

1409
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: know it is just never going to be the same.

1410
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: These regional rivalries the easiest teams to root for the

1411
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: entire country. Right now, you're just a fan of their

1412
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: art rival is Washington State and Oregon State. Anything good

1413
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: they do this year, I think most of us all

1414
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: are just going to be cheering that on because you

1415
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: have to feel for them. They weren't the ones that

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01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: were bringing a lot of revenue, but their universities are

1417
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: going to go into obscurity when it comes to athletics,

1418
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: especially on the football side, which that's the one that counts.

1419
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: It's just because they're not part of this. Because they

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01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: don't they're not in an impressive TV market and as

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01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: such they get left to the altar. But gosh, the

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01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: football is gonna be great in the PAC twelve and

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01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: we should be celebrating that. And unfortunately, every time you

1424
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: watch it, you feel like you are watching like a

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01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: relic right before your very eyes. And that, folks, is

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01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: a shame. When we come back, speaking of the PAC twelve, Colorado,

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01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: Dion and Jay Norvell, what were you thinking our number

1428
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:59,799
Speaker 1: three Bernie Frado Show. Bernie is out this morning, this weekend, tonight.

1429
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: He'll be back next week. I'm Jason Martin in for him.

1430
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not in Vegas. I'm in Nashville. You can

1431
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: find me if you'd like on Twitter or ex at

1432
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: JMAR Radio. You can call us if you'd like. If

1433
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: you're up eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. That's

1434
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: nine nine to six, six three six nine before he'd

1435
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 1: done two hours. That means we've got one more to

1436
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: go and a lot of that's gonna be college football.

1437
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: Will also break down the week in the NFL a

1438
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: little bit later on. We have managed to go this

1439
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: far and not really talked about Dion Sanders, but that

1440
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: is about to change. I actually set it up to

1441
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: open with him here in this third hour. It is

1442
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: the story of college football. You had Texas and Alabama

1443
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: and then but what has happened in Colorado the first

1444
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: two weeks of the season is already showing why if

1445
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: you're Colorado, this was the biggest no brainer higher you

1446
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: could make. It almost didn't matter if they won, because

1447
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: you were still going to have a lot of people

1448
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: paying attention to your program. For the first time in

1449
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: a very very long time. Colorado's to and zero beat

1450
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: the defending national runners up TCU. Not the same team,

1451
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: because when you beat a college program, you know, and

1452
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: they lost their starting quarterback and they're all world wide

1453
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: receiver and other guys to the NFL, you know it

1454
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: isn't the same team. But that's still impressive to go

1455
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: and beat a preseason ranked top twenty team on the

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Speaker 1: road and in a Colorado uniform. That's Colorado uniform that

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01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: accounted for one win all of last season, and in

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,839
Speaker 1: the twenty six games I think it's twenty six games

1459
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: prior to Dion's debut, they had not scored forty points

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01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: in a game. And well, you're seeing what they're doing

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01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: right now. But now we've got Colorado, Colorado State. And

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01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: you've probably seen this story by now. But the Jay

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: Norvelle kind of saga here, I'll ride a state coach,

1464
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: he says on his radio show. Now, I sat down

1465
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: with the ESPN today. This is a quote. I sat

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01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: down with him. I don't care if they hear it

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: in Boulder. I told him, I took my hat off,

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01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: I took my glasses off. And I said, when I

1469
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: talked to grownups, I take my hat, my glasses off.

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01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: That's what my mother taught me. They're not gonna like

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01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: us no matter what we say or do. It doesn't matter.

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: So let's go up there and play. And Sanders who

1473
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: uses anything as bulletin board material, And look, that's a

1474
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: player's mentality in many cases. You know, he didn't like

1475
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: it initially. Now he says his kids are now on

1476
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: a ten. They're ready to play this game. They can't

1477
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: wait to play this game. We can't wait to get

1478
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: it on. You've got both major networks, only one of

1479
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: which is televising the game, by j sending their pregame

1480
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: shows there because it's the show you've got. I mean,

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: think about this. You've got Tennessee and Florida happening in

1482
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: the swamp, but they're at Colorado, Colorado State, and we

1483
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: are just this is the third week of Dion Sanders

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01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: and that team. This is the third week of his

1485
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: coaching career on this college level after leaving Jackson State,

1486
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: and this is what you're getting from it. That's why

1487
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: you make the higher for your Colorado and that's why

1488
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: the winning was kind of secondary. At least at first,

1489
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 1: it was about being relevant again and letting him sell

1490
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: the program and really letting him be himself in front

1491
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: of a generation of athletes that likely didn't get to

1492
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: see him at his best and at his most famous.

1493
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: And now they're getting all of that, and their dads

1494
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: are telling them, their moms are telling them, their grandparents

1495
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: are telling them, their uncles are telling them. Man prime

1496
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: with something else, and now you potentially maybe you've got

1497
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: a chance to watch him, like, think about it, think

1498
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: about that, and you know why the move was made.

1499
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: But I actually want to talk more about what Norvelle

1500
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: said because I found it interesting, not like I said

1501
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: it was. I said in the teas at the end

1502
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: of the last hour, it was the dumbest thing you

1503
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: could possibly have said, Like, what are you thinking saying

1504
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: something like that? I actually think I might know what

1505
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: he's thinking, because I think he might actually have sort

1506
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: of given it away at the end of the statement.

1507
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: So you know, you've you've got Dion saying what he's

1508
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: saying and Dion Sun saying what they're saying, and you

1509
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: know they're talking a lot now, and Sanders said, you know,

1510
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: why would you go into that direction? You know me

1511
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: in effect, he's like, yeah, you know, I've got to

1512
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: I will easily turn this into bulletin board material. But

1513
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 1: he's like, we just go out there and play. We

1514
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: don't We don't talk about anybody. Da da da da

1515
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: da da da da da. All right. So I just

1516
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: laid out the reasoning for why you hire Dion Sanders

1517
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: before you ever really know if he can coach on

1518
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: this level or not, just based on what he had

1519
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: done to Jackson State and the attention that is gonna

1520
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: attract to your program, which otherwise has no attention. There's

1521
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: no reason to pay attention to Colorado football. There hasn't

1522
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:18,440
Speaker 1: been in a real long time. And immediately it became mussy. Immediately,

1523
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 1: I said, I was more interested in that than anything

1524
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: else is gonna happen in college football this year. Even

1525
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: if Georgia was gonna repeat that was boring compared to

1526
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: I just want to see what happens in Colorado. I

1527
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: want to see it, and I'm not shocked that it's

1528
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: gone this way at all. But one of the reasons

1529
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: why I kind of led into it that way is

1530
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: because it was about making them relevant and putting them

1531
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: on the map and making their story interesting. Well, Jay Norvell,

1532
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read these comments again. I'm gonna read the

1533
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: comments that he made on the radio station again. And

1534
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: the reason I'm gonna do it is because I want

1535
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 1: you to see if you can hear before I get

1536
01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 1: to it or before I tell you what it is.

1537
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: I want to see if you can pick up on

1538
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: what I kind of think is lost in what he said.

1539
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: First off, before I read that, he also said a

1540
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: lot of really kind stuff about them previously to this

1541
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: in a run up to the game, gave him all

1542
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: the credit in the world, said Colorado made a really

1543
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: great decision hiring him. Can't believe it, like he's super

1544
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: successful all that, and then he said, quote, I sat

1545
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: down with the ESPN today. I don't care if they

1546
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: hear it in Boulder.

1547
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 5: I told them we look back up with Jason Martin

1548
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 5: here in just a couple of minutes here on Fox

1549
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 5: Sports Radio. You know, he's talking about the Shadora Sanders,

1550
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 5: Dion Sanders going head to head with the head coach

1551
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 5: of Colorado State, Jay Norvell, and why you would poke

1552
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 5: the bear or I guess poke the buffalo, pardon the pun.

1553
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 4: And it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You know,

1554
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 4: it would be one.

1555
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 5: Thing if this game didn't already have a spotlight on

1556
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 5: it that already does because of the wave of attention

1557
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 5: that Dion Sanders brought to colorad prior to them getting

1558
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 5: off to that fast start, starting off two to zero.

1559
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 5: If you're a no avail, you were already going to

1560
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 5: be under the spotlight. It would have behooved you to

1561
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 5: be as humble as possible going into this situation. I'm

1562
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 5: not saying that you had to necessarily kiss the ring

1563
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 5: for lack of a better term, with Deon Sanders in Colorado,

1564
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 5: but there certainly was no reason for you to come

1565
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 5: in and be as arrogant as you were on your

1566
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 5: radio show. And look, maybe he was sitting there in

1567
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 5: front of a smattering of Colorado's state fans ram fans

1568
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 5: sitting in front of him, and he fell gassed up

1569
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 5: to be able to take shots at Deon Sanders with

1570
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 5: the wearing the sunglasses in the hat, which look, I've

1571
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 5: certainly been critical of people wearing sunglasses indoors in the

1572
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 5: past too, I understand it, but just to take unsolicited

1573
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 5: shots at Dion who It's odd to say that Dion

1574
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 5: Sanders is catching strays from anybody because he puts himself

1575
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 5: under the spotlight as often as he does.

1576
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 4: But you know what, to his credit, you can criticize

1577
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 4: him as much as you want for.

1578
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 5: Placing the spotlight on him, which, by the way, I

1579
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 5: think as much talking as he does.

1580
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 4: Listen to him closely.

1581
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 5: The majority of the talking that Dion does is about

1582
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 5: the kids in the program. It's rarely ever about him individually,

1583
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 5: but a lot of the talk is more about the kids,

1584
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 5: it's not about him. But he backs it up and

1585
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 5: he talks about what his program is, what they're doing,

1586
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 5: how they're trying to cultivate a winner, what the expectations

1587
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 5: are set for he and his program. He's never talked

1588
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 5: about another opponent. He's never brought up another coach, another program.

1589
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 5: When asked about Nebraska, he respected the rivalry. Last week

1590
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 5: and Matt Ruhl took some what some considered veiled shots

1591
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 5: at Deon Sanders talking about their exploiting of the transfer portal,

1592
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 5: which you know, it's the don't hate to play or

1593
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 5: hte the game. The transfer portal is a useful tool

1594
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 5: that many schools have used to their advantage in Colorado,

1595
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 5: probably more than anybody at this point in time, has

1596
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 5: taken advantage of it, turning over basically eighty percent of

1597
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 5: their roster and having immediate success that most of us

1598
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 5: it did not see happening. It's absolutely been a credible

1599
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 5: But if you're Jane ORVL, look, you're at Colorado State

1600
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 5: as you were, you're a five hundred coach over your

1601
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 5: tenure there. I believe he's been there for about five

1602
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 5: six years now, and you're like a twenty three. I

1603
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 5: believe it's as of as of last night, a twenty

1604
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 5: three and a half point underdog. Why would you poke

1605
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 5: the bear? What do you stand to gain from taking

1606
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 5: shots at Dion and Colorado? It's gonna be It's a

1607
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 5: big enough game regionally for you are ready? Colorado Colorado State.

1608
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 5: I know, for for a long period of time it

1609
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 5: was a humongous rivalry. The series stopped for a couple

1610
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 5: of years. They've brought it back. Colorado's clearly on the

1611
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 5: upward trajectory. Look this time last year, you know, Colorado

1612
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 5: was terrible and rebuilding, and Colorado State, as we mentioned,

1613
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 5: has not been that great of a program either. But

1614
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 5: now you're on the national stage. Could you imagine if

1615
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 5: you were Jane Orville and let's say, look and they

1616
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 5: still might I highly doubt it, but let's say they

1617
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 5: cover the spread and end up even upsetting and winning.

1618
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 5: That would be the ultimate flex on Sanders. I don't

1619
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 5: think any of us see that happening, but it would

1620
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 5: hit so much differently, and people would actually be in

1621
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 5: this corner. If he hadn't said what he said on

1622
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 5: his Coaches show earlier this week, if he had just

1623
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 5: not acknowledged Dion at all. You know, the proctor asked

1624
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 5: him about Colorado and say, you know what they do,

1625
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 5: what they do over there, We're going to handle our

1626
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 5: own business. We're going to go in humbully respectfully and

1627
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 5: do our best to try to win this game against

1628
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 5: our in state rival. There was just look and look,

1629
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 5: if you're Lincoln Riley at USC, or if you're out

1630
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 5: out of conference at Alabama or LSU with Brian Kelly,

1631
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 5: you can afford to say that sort of thing because

1632
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 5: if you wouldn't had to have with Colorado this year,

1633
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 5: you're probably going to get a victory. As much as

1634
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 5: I like Colorado on what they've done, and they've already

1635
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 5: exceeded expectations from what many of us thought they would,

1636
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,719
Speaker 5: let's not act like they faced world beaters. They faced

1637
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 5: a rebuilding TCU team, I'll be it, on the road,

1638
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 5: and then a rebuilding Nebraska team who who, by the way,

1639
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 5: was right there with them at halftime and without a

1640
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 5: couple of blunders, what was that game?

1641
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 4: Thirteen to seven and a half?

1642
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 5: Nebraska could have been up I believe ten to seven

1643
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 5: and a half time at a couple of things broken

1644
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 5: their way. Now granted, it's not a it's not a

1645
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 5: thirty minute game. It's a sixty minute game, and Colorado

1646
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 5: was able to pull away in the fourth quarter. The

1647
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 5: true test for Colorado is gonna come next week when

1648
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 5: you go on the road to take on Oregon and

1649
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 5: then you follow that up with a home game against

1650
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 5: USC then we'll see what they're really about. But again,

1651
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 5: if they only end up with four or five wins,

1652
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 5: but they're competitive and you have an NFL prospect to

1653
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 5: Shaduur Sanders balling the way that he's balling out defensively,

1654
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 5: they have some issues for sure, but to put up

1655
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 5: the numbers like they are offensively, what would you, as

1656
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 5: J Norville, see to make you want to take veiled shots,

1657
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 5: not veil shots, explicit shots at Deon Sanders in the

1658
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 5: program and Diana's right, you know, look, and there's I

1659
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 5: think there's equally an amount of people who who want

1660
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 5: to see Colorado win because they respect and love Deon Sanders.

1661
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 5: A lot of people grew up watching them play. I'm

1662
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 5: certainly one of them. You either loved or hated as Bravado,

1663
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 5: but he was able to back it up. There's just

1664
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 5: as many people that want to see them succeed as

1665
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 5: want to see them fail. And either way, your eyeballs

1666
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 5: are on Colorado and I'm sure that's all Dion and

1667
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 5: all that program cares about at this point in time.

1668
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 5: So they'll take the exposure however they can get it.

1669
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 5: But if you're Mike o'vail or je Novail, excuse me,

1670
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 5: this was not the best look for you in Colorado State.

1671
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 5: And this team didn't need any extra motivation. They already

1672
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 5: have a chip on their shoulder. They're already confident. So

1673
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 5: for Deon Sanders to pull this team together and say, look,

1674
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 5: we were just trying to prepare and do our thing,

1675
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 5: he decided to put our names in his mouth. So

1676
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 5: now you made a personal less time for us to

1677
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 5: shut up. And of course I like saying, you want

1678
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 5: to invoke my mother. He wasn't necessarily talking about his mother,

1679
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 5: but he said, you know, my mom told me to

1680
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 5: keep my sunglasses off when I'm talking to another another

1681
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 5: grown adult. This is the Jason Martin Show, I should say,

1682
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 5: this is the Bernie Freddo Show. Jason Martin sitting in

1683
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 5: for Bernie Fretto on Fox Sports Radio. We'll take a

1684
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 5: quick break, We'll come back Jason will hook back up

1685
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 5: with Jason Martin. Don't go anywhere once again. This is

1686
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 5: the Bernie Freddo Show with Jason Martin sitting in on

1687
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio.

1688
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 1: Boy You're back. It is now official. It is a

1689
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: Fox Football Saturday Live in the Tyraq dot Com studio.

1690
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Is Bernie Freddo show him Jason Martin in for Bernie.

1691
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,799
Speaker 1: Appreciate Kfig stepping in for me as I had technical

1692
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: issues there for a couple of minutes. But back, ready

1693
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: to go, Ready to go. By the way, I was

1694
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: watching WWB SmackDown on Friday night and in the ring

1695
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: in the main event, which was a segment, it wasn't

1696
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 1: a match. A joke was made about my mama telling

1697
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: me to wear sunglasses and a hat, and they're in

1698
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Denver for the show. Again, just pointing out what it

1699
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: means to have Dionne Sanders involved in your program because

1700
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: it's instantly newsworthy, and the fans reacted to it as

1701
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: if it was newsworthy. And I'm pretty sure and I

1702
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: didn't get to hear gay Fig because of course I

1703
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: was off there for a couple of minutes. I'm gonna

1704
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 1: try to finish this point that I made and maybe

1705
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: exactly what he just told you. But I think the

1706
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: key to what Jay Norvell was saying was not in

1707
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: the first part of it. It was in the second

1708
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:36,919
Speaker 1: part of it. And I don't know that he realized

1709
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: that he was explaining himself or giving himself away here.

1710
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: But you know, the took my hat off and my

1711
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: mama told me and all that, like whatever, Right, all

1712
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: of that is fine, But at the end of what

1713
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: he was saying, he then basically tells you they're not

1714
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't like us anyway, no matter what we say

1715
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: or do, So let's just go play. And that right

1716
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 1: there is your answer. Because the one thing that we

1717
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: knew going into this thing was that Colorado State didn't matter.

1718
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 1: They were irrelevant to the storyline here. This was about Colorado.

1719
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: The reason why there's all this media attention centered in Boulder,

1720
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: Colorado this weekend is not because of the vaunted legendary

1721
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Colorado Colorado State matchup. It's because it's Deion Sanders and

1722
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: his undefeated Buffalo's team at two and oho that have

1723
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: surprised people entering the year. And it does have you know,

1724
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: you do locally it is a rivalry, so you're gonna

1725
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: have some fun there, but it's just you want to

1726
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: be a part of this show. And then after this,

1727
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, Colorado faces Oregon in USC and those are

1728
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: going to be insane, especially if they're three and o

1729
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: going and they should be. They're three and oh going

1730
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 1: into those games. You just it's going to be the

1731
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: easiest entertainment in the world. But that's what sports are.

1732
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: They're entertainment, and Colorado State they're just the other guy.

1733
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:10,799
Speaker 1: Like there's not anything that anyone knows about their program.

1734
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 1: So what Jay Norvella is saying is, yeah, I'm gonna

1735
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 1: give them Bulltimore material basically in effects, like because they

1736
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: already they don't need it, Like I know how Deon works.

1737
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 1: Dion's gonna get them all psyched up to play anyway,

1738
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 1: So I may as well make news to where Colorado

1739
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 1: State all of a sudden, you know who they are,

1740
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: you know who we are. Now you're part of the story.

1741
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: This might be the wrong kind of publicity, but you

1742
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,839
Speaker 1: were gonna get stomped anyway. Probably. I know it's sports.

1743
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 1: It's a reality show, as Bernie always says, So I

1744
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 1: mean maybe not, but we all kind of think so.

1745
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 1: And the Buffs are highly favored in the game. But

1746
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: if you all ready, if you're Jay Norvell and you're

1747
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 1: just like I mean, I might as well poke the

1748
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: bear because he's gonna find something anyway, like this is

1749
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 1: a rivalry. You don't think Dion's gonna try to find

1750
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: a way to make that personal, at least for the

1751
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: sake of the entertainment involved. He might have a ton

1752
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: of respect for Colorado State as a program, Dion, or

1753
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: maybe it hadn't developed yet because he hadn't been there

1754
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 1: long enough to really have formulated an opinion about them

1755
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: one way or the other. But at this point, Colorado

1756
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: State is just stepping up and cutting the heel promo

1757
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: on Colorado so that there's a reason to buy the

1758
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: pay per view. So there's a reason for that guy

1759
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: to have your attention the next time he's on TV

1760
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: in the ring. That's all it is. I don't think

1761
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: it's about the disrespect that he shows to Dion with

1762
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 1: what he's saying and all this, And I don't think

1763
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 1: Sanders's response was all that much about being disrespected as

1764
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: much as it is about them both saying things that

1765
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: just create more entertainment value. And certainly, you know Colorado

1766
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: State fans and alumni get behind that. You laugh about

1767
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: because you already probably don't like Colorado because it's in

1768
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,879
Speaker 1: state and it's rivalry and that's just the way that works,

1769
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: and Colorado's the same way on the flip side. So

1770
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: you've just got various camps here and you've created you've

1771
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: created something that's interesting for us to follow nationally more

1772
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: than Colorado's side of it. Now, it's how much is

1773
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: Colorado going to beat them by? That's a storyline because

1774
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about the bear being poked. We're talking about

1775
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: why would you make this personal? And Deonzai and you've

1776
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: made it personal. Now my kids can't wait to play

1777
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: all of this. So now you've given them the bulletin

1778
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 1: board material to hang a hundred on you and a

1779
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: lot of people are going to watch to see how

1780
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,600
Speaker 1: many points Colorado tries to score them Colorado State. But

1781
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: all of this is good from an entertainment perspective. Ultimately,

1782
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: Colorado State and Colorado now becomes interesting not just this year,

1783
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: but years going forward. This was going to be sort

1784
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 1: of the down week before Colorado goes and plays a

1785
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: couple of Pack twelve opponents that are real good, and

1786
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: we get to really kind of see what this experiment

1787
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: is at this stage. How early, I mean, it's already

1788
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: a success because they already won more games than they

1789
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 1: won all of last year, and they did it in

1790
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: two weeks. And I think they're gonna win seven games

1791
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: this year. But there's gonna be a litmus test there, right,

1792
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 1: there's gonna be kind of a DPS check, if you will.

1793
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 1: If you're a video game, video game guy, sometimes you

1794
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 1: run into an enemy and a game that is designed

1795
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: basically to either check you at the or or let

1796
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you're probably not supposed to be here yet.

1797
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: You need to go somewhere else for a while, build

1798
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 1: up your skills, build up your numbers, and then come

1799
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,759
Speaker 1: back here. Well, that's the boss fight of Caleb Williams looming.

1800
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: That's the boss fight of the Oregon Ducks looming. But

1801
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: now you've created something in the Colorado State game that

1802
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 1: you didn't have before. I didn't care about Colorado State Colorado.

1803
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: I cared about Colorado playing a football game. Now, at

1804
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: least there's a little bit of a story here. There's

1805
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: a reason to watch the wrestling match. I don't think

1806
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna get out of control. But I think there's

1807
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna be some fun things that happen. There's probably going

1808
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 1: to be some comments, or there's gonna be some dancing,

1809
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: or there's gonna be a little bit of extra curriculars,

1810
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna make for an entertaining product.

1811
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: And even if we want to talk about sports and

1812
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: higher regards, that's what it is. It's an entertainment product.

1813
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: What we do for a living on Fox Sports Radio

1814
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: is an entertainment. We analyze entertainment. But if we're not entertaining,

1815
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: if we can't bring something that you want to hear,

1816
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: if we can't do it with our various segments or

1817
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: our guest interviews or the jokes that we tell, or

1818
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: the various recurring things that we do all of that,

1819
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: or if we're not just really good at breaking down

1820
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 1: games analyqui. If we don't bring something entertaining, then your

1821
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: ears are gonna go somewhere else. Colorado State was an

1822
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 1: afterthought here and now they're a centerpiece part of what's

1823
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a squash match. But at least there's

1824
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: something here. There's a little meat on this bone. And

1825
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 1: if Colorado scores one hundred. That just becomes another fun story,

1826
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 1: and it just adds to the drama, and it adds

1827
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:51,520
Speaker 1: to everything that is surrounding the Dion experiment in Colorado,

1828
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: which is such a joy because I want to be

1829
01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: entertained and Dion and what's happening at Colorado is for

1830
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: sure entertaining me. Now you heard from Kevin Figures at

1831
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: the end of the last segment. Thankfully he still was

1832
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Let's go out there one more time. Let's catch a

1833
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 1: look at what is trending. We send it out there now, okfig.

1834
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 5: All right, Jason, we'll start in Major League Baseball from

1835
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 5: Friday night. Dodgers inching closer to clinching the National League

1836
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 5: West after they beat Seattle six to three, with Texas

1837
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 5: and Houston both losing, the Mariners a game and a

1838
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 5: half out of first place in the American League West.

1839
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 5: Toronto a half game behind the Mariners for the final

1840
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 5: AL wildcard after they picked up a three to nothing

1841
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 5: victory over the Red Sox. Tampa Bays won nine of

1842
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 5: their last eleven after a seven to one drubbing of Baltimore,

1843
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 5: who has lost four in a row. Those teams are

1844
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 5: tied for the American League East lead and the NL

1845
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 5: Wildcard race. Philly holds the top spot. They beat the

1846
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,879
Speaker 5: Cardinals five to four. Reds defeated the Mets in Arizona

1847
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 5: defeated the Cup six to four, so Cincinnati and the

1848
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 5: d Backs were tied for the final wildcard. Miami beat

1849
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 5: the Braves behind two home runs from Luisa Rise, while

1850
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 5: the Giants lost in Colorado by the score of three

1851
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 5: to two. College football Air Force ran all over Utah

1852
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 5: State third twenty one Army eight thirty seven to twenty

1853
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 5: nine victory over UTSA. Maryland dominated Virginia forty two to fourteen.

1854
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:09,719
Speaker 5: Back to Jason Martin.

1855
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, kay, Fake football fans, be sure to tune

1856
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Radio every Saturday morning that includes this morning,

1857
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 1: beginning nine am Eastern six am Pacific. Countdown to Kickoff,

1858
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:26,640
Speaker 1: presented by bet MGM. It's our guys, Brian no, Rich Orenberger,

1859
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: betting analyst Jared Smith. They're gonna have you fully covered

1860
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: ready to go three hours before college kickoffs every Saturday

1861
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: morning during the season. Listen to Countdown to Kickoff. It's

1862
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: presented by bet MGM, and it's right here on Fox

1863
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 1: Sports Radio and on the I Heart Radio app So

1864
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 1: it is kind of a light week in college football

1865
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to great matchups. Colorado Colorado State wasn't

1866
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: a great matchup, but now it's become a great entertainment product. Florida, Tennessee.

1867
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what Florida is. Some people think that's

1868
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: right for an up set. You can go ahead and

1869
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: count me in the camp that does not see that happening.

1870
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 1: I think Tess He's gonna go in the swamp and

1871
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: play well and win. But the NFL, on the other hand,

1872
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 1: we have some bangers in Week two. So let's talk

1873
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 1: a little bit about some of the slate. Ravens at Bengals.

1874
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 1: Bengals are zero and one. Ravens want to zero. They

1875
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:24,799
Speaker 1: lose JK. Dobbins for the year. That was sad. Anytime

1876
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: you see somebody go down in the first week or

1877
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: in the preseason. You think about all of the work,

1878
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 1: the train, the excitement of getting to play the games,

1879
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: all of this, and then the season gets taken from

1880
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 1: you that fast. I mean, it's hard not to even

1881
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:44,759
Speaker 1: it's hard. Regardless of what you might think about Aaron Rodgers.

1882
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I still felt really bad for Aaron

1883
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 1: Rodgers and the way that he kind of has behaved

1884
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 1: since you could tell it mattered, and it really shook

1885
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: him that he's not going to be able to play

1886
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:04,719
Speaker 1: this year. Ravens at Bengals is going to be a war.

1887
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 1: It's going to be physical, It's probably gonna be nasty.

1888
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there's a handful of unsportsman

1889
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: likes in that game. These are two teams that don't

1890
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: really like each other. And that weird stat about Burrow

1891
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: last week where Burrow's one and four against the Browns

1892
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: in his career, well, three of his four lowest total

1893
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 1: QBR games last year came against Baltimore. So this is

1894
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: a team he has struggled with. And I still don't

1895
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: know how fast they're going to be back on track,

1896
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 1: because again, he just couldn't do very much with the injury,

1897
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 1: and this wasn't a usual offseason for him, so it

1898
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 1: might still take more time. But they do have the

1899
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: game at home. They are about a three point favorite

1900
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood. But this is one of those

1901
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: games where, especially with Cincinnati having already lost once in division,

1902
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 1: this is this is you don't want to go zero

1903
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: to two inside your own division, when you already knew

1904
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: it was going to be tight because you had potentially

1905
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:19,799
Speaker 1: four pretty good football teams there, maybe two great ones,

1906
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: maybe even three really good ones, but nobody that's bad.

1907
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: So that that makes this I'm not saying it's must win,

1908
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 1: but it's this one's critical. This one's crucial. And again,

1909
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: this one's going to be really physical, and I think

1910
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 1: it's likely to be close, and I think it's likely

1911
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: to go down to the end. And it's one of

1912
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 1: the noon kickoffs, like it's an early game, but this

1913
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 1: feels like it could have been a primetime game. I mean,

1914
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 1: you're getting Miami in New England. But this, this game,

1915
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 1: to me, is more relevant to a potential super Bowl

1916
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: discussion a playoff discussion. But both of them are division games,

1917
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 1: so we can talk about that one next. That's a

1918
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: Sunday night game, that's Miami at the Patriots, Miami going

1919
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: to New England. But it is, you know, mid September.

1920
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: We're not talking about December where the weather is going

1921
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: to play that much of a factor in terms of

1922
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: the cold, in terms of the temperature. I said the

1923
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 1: same thing about San Francisco having to go to Pittsburgh

1924
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 1: last week. If you're gonna go to Pittsburgh, you want

1925
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 1: to go there now. You don't want to go there

1926
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: in mid December, especially if you're not a cold weather team.

1927
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco. You know, west to east is never an

1928
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 1: easy trip, but you got to travel to the East.

1929
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 1: But you got to go to Pittsburgh, which can be

1930
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: a really tough place to play from a mother nature standpoint.

1931
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: You got to do that on the perfect week, first

1932
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: week of the season, before the Pittsburgh weather really has

1933
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,520
Speaker 1: taken over. You got that advantage and you took advantage

1934
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 1: of it. So if you're Miami, you kind of can

1935
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: look it the same way. It's like, well, gonna play

1936
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: at New England's playing them early instead of playing at

1937
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 1: New England or playing in our building now and then

1938
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 1: going to play them later in the year. So they

1939
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: kind of look out and they get to make this

1940
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 1: trip early, and they're coming off a big time win

1941
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 1: in a great game last week with the Chargers where

1942
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 1: they were just points being scored everywhere, and New England

1943
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna bring a defense that you want to see

1944
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: what Miami's offense looks like against New England's defense, because

1945
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense is solid, and the Miami offense looks spectacular.

1946
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: That was the Chargers defense last week. This is where

1947
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna kind of see more of what they're gonna

1948
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: do against a bigger challenge. Now, the Patriots defense is

1949
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: not the best that they will see this year. It's

1950
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,759
Speaker 1: not the best in the National Football League. It's certainly

1951
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: they would see a few in the NFC, potentially in

1952
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl matchup that would, you know, certainly take

1953
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: them to the limit. But this is going to be

1954
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 1: a step in the direction of all right, now, let's

1955
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 1: see what this offense looks like against a more fully

1956
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 1: realized defense. So that's gonna be an interesting game. But

1957
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 1: that offense, as long as those guys are healthy, they're

1958
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna be real difficult to stop by just about anybody

1959
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 1: because it's not just one dimensional and there's so many

1960
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: different ways that they can hurt you. And Mike McDaniel

1961
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 1: is just real smart and really understands the offensive side

1962
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 1: of the football and he's been around Kyle Shanahan and

1963
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. So I like Miami in

1964
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: a game because, my man, I don't think the Patriots

1965
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 1: can score with them Even if I don't think that

1966
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: Miami hits thirty in this game, even if I think

1967
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: this one's more twenty three to thirteen twenty three ten,

1968
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: it's still going to be a game where in the

1969
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 1: end they're just not gonna have enough. And by day

1970
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots are not gonna have enough to

1971
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: stop the offense from at least putting up points fairly

1972
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 1: consistently during the game. It might be a couple more

1973
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: threes than it is sevens, but it's still gonna be

1974
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 1: enough to get the job done. I would say Casey

1975
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville is another really good one. Jacksonville. They had

1976
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 1: to earn that one against the Colts. Last week the

1977
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs lost to the Lions. But now they get Travis

1978
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 1: Kelce back, and now they get Chris Jones back. Now

1979
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville trendy entering the year not just to win the

1980
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: AFC South, but to be a real contender because of

1981
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: the way they finished last year and because you don't

1982
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 1: expect it to change that much because all you've done

1983
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 1: is added Calvin Ridley, who looked outstanding in Week one

1984
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 1: and looked like he was totally in sync and vice

1985
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: versa with his quarterback Trevor Lawrence. But this is this

1986
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 1: is another one. This is a potential playoff matchup right

1987
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: in front of your eyes. And Kansas City is zero

1988
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: to one, which is unfamiliar territory. So they're gonna come

1989
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 1: out and they're gonna try and get the momentum back.

1990
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 1: But this is in Jacksonville. It'll be a different environment

1991
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,759
Speaker 1: than it would have been had this game been an arrowhead,

1992
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: to say the least. But this ought to be just

1993
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: a really good football game. There should be a lot

1994
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: of points scored here too, because neither one of these

1995
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: defenses is particularly great. The Chiefs are gonna be a

1996
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: lot better with Jones because when he's out there, he's

1997
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 1: such a full crumb that things can happen around him.

1998
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 1: He's like the sun for their defense. They're an opportunistic

1999
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: defense more than they are a consistent defense, and they

2000
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: usually get better later in the year, do the Chiefs.

2001
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 1: But Jones is the guy that he's to straw the

2002
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 1: serves to drink there, and Jacksonville has done a decent

2003
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 1: job on that side of the football. And then you've

2004
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: got Andy Reid and Doug Peterson, both former Eagles coaches

2005
01:51:55,439 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 1: and both adults and both likable and both really real

2006
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 1: league good football coaches, so that one should be real

2007
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: good as well. I don't even know how to call

2008
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: that one really in Jacksonville. I'm gonna take the Chiefs

2009
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: just because I've got the Chiefs in the Super Bowl,

2010
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: and I still want to see a little bit more

2011
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville before I'm ready to fully jump on board

2012
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: that train. But I do think they're at worst, they're

2013
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,679
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. I just don't know that they're

2014
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna be quite to the level of some of the

2015
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 1: hype that we've heard during the preseason. We got a

2016
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: couple more that I want to get through, and we'll

2017
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,839
Speaker 1: do that, and then we'll talk about this college football

2018
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 1: Saturday to finish up, because either we're gonna have some

2019
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: real stunners or this is gonna be the chalkiest day

2020
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 1: that's ever chalked in college football because the matchups on

2021
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 1: paper don't look great, which oftentimes turns out to be

2022
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: the opposite. We will find out, but we will get

2023
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 1: you all set and send you out next here it's

2024
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: a Bernie Frado Show. I'm Jason Martin in for Bernie

2025
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Bernie Frado Show on another

2026
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 1: Fox Football Saturday here Fox Sports Radio, tire Rack dot

2027
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 1: Com Studios. Bernie is out seeing I'm Jason Martin in

2028
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: for him. Been fun over the last couple of hours

2029
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 1: filling in for him. I'll be in with Aaron Torres

2030
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: as usual eleven PM tonight to kind of finish up

2031
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 1: your day. We're kind of in a great slot to

2032
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 1: be able to do that. We've done it for the

2033
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 1: last handful of years. Being able to react to everything

2034
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 1: pretty much in real time. That's just happened in college

2035
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: football and get you set for the Sunday games, which

2036
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 1: we were talking about, So let's go to a couple

2037
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 1: more of those before we finish up. Chargers at Titans

2038
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: is sort of interesting just because there are two teams

2039
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: that aren't completely out of the mix, the Chargers. There's

2040
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot expected Tennessee, there's really not, but you come

2041
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 1: to Tennessee and that's a Titans defense that they can

2042
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: be pesky. But they have not been good against the

2043
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 1: pass over. The last year they were better. This was

2044
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: something that used to be a lot better at this

2045
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,759
Speaker 1: seems like they are now. This should be a feast

2046
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert against that defense on the pass side.

2047
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: But this is also the kind of game that Vrabel

2048
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: doesn't usually lose, so that's why I mentioned it. It's

2049
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 1: not as sexy on paper, but you know what Tennessee's

2050
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 1: going to do offensively. Tannehill had one of the worst

2051
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 1: games I've ever seen him play last week against the Saints,

2052
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 1: and the Saints have a pretty good defense, but Tannehill

2053
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: looked terrible in that game, and he said, look, I

2054
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 1: just want to put it behind me and move on

2055
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,719
Speaker 1: to the next one. And I would too. Don't blame

2056
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: him at all for that, but Vrabel usually has his guy.

2057
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 1: They This is a Titans team under Vrabel that has

2058
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 1: consistently won a lot of games that you really don't

2059
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 1: think they should win, and this could be one of those.

2060
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: Because offensively, the Chargers have all the explosion and they've

2061
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 1: got Herbert, and so they should be able to put

2062
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: up enough points to distance themselves from the Titans on paper.

2063
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 1: But what Tennessee's going to do is make it ugly.

2064
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: They're going to run the ball with Derrick Henry Hopkins

2065
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: being questionable as a problem. If he can't play it, it's

2066
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 1: a big problem, especially with how many targets and how

2067
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 1: much attention he attracted last week. Maybe Traylon Burks gets

2068
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 1: a few more looks this week. I'll man, I don't know.

2069
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: With Vrabel, I tend to think they probably win the game,

2070
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: meaning Tennessee, just because I believe in him as head

2071
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 1: coach and I've seen for years what this team does

2072
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 1: in games like this. But I'll take the Chargers right

2073
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 1: now because I just think Tennessee is since he's kind

2074
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 1: of a far cry from what they were a couple

2075
01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: of years ago. Jets at Cowboys. Man, was this gonna

2076
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 1: be special? And now it is. Here goes Zach Wilson

2077
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 1: to play against that defense that just beat the Daniel

2078
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 1: Jones Giants forty to nothing last Sunday night. This was

2079
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: gonna be Aaron Rodgers against the Cowboys, and Aaron Rodgers

2080
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 1: with this group, this new Jets group in a new

2081
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 1: uniform in big D and now it's just gonna be

2082
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 1: Dallas's defense trying to dominate Zach Wilson and forced him

2083
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 1: into mistakes. Zack Wilson has said, I'm just trying to

2084
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: be as close to Aaron Rodgers as I can be,

2085
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 1: not meaning same production, but just I'm trying to learn

2086
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: from him and do everything he did and be as

2087
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: close to what you would expect from him as I can.

2088
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 1: He's saying all the right things right now, and last

2089
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 1: year he did the exact opposite. So good on him

2090
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: for sort of saying the right stuff. Problem is he

2091
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: still plays the same Because you saw on Monday when

2092
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: he came into the game all that stuff about how

2093
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: great he's looked at all season he bulked up and

2094
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 1: oh man, look good in the preseason all well, the

2095
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 1: version that I saw, the guy that I saw Monday

2096
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 1: night still kind of looked a lot like the guy

2097
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: saw last year. And that's not going to be good enough.

2098
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 1: Even with that defense and those weapons. They're still going

2099
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 1: to be a good football team even with him, just

2100
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 1: because they do have a lot of talent there and

2101
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: they've built well and saw as a really good coach,

2102
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: young coach, and I mean, I'm saying it's really good.

2103
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: I know he hasn't done a lot yet. I like

2104
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: a lot of things about him, and so I'm willing

2105
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: to just kind of stick my neck out and say

2106
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: I think Sola is a good coach. I do, But

2107
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson can only take you so far, we think

2108
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: until further notice, the doubt is justified, or the skepticism

2109
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 1: is fully justified, the cynicism is fully justified. This is

2110
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: one where if he goes in there and stinks it up,

2111
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: are they going to be calling for his head after

2112
01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: this one? I have a hard time saying so, because

2113
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 1: Dallas is really good. Dallas defensively, what they did to

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Speaker 1: the Giants, they do that to the Jets. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Well, it probably means that Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones shouldn't have been paid, not that Zach Wilson shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been on the field. But maybe you'll get more

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Speaker 1: of that Tom Brady nonsense next week, if it does happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that it will, at least I I

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Speaker 1: just think that the Brady stuff, hopefully is over. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad we got that for twenty four hours so that

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Speaker 1: people could make their money on TV and radio for

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Speaker 1: a day, and then we moved on to reality because

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Speaker 1: it's time to actually let Tom Brady retire and come

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Speaker 1: back in a year and do TV. Colorado, Colorado State, Florida,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and a bunch of other games. There's a few.

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Speaker 1: I mean, George is playing South Carolina. That's a regionally,

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Speaker 1: that's an important rivalry, and it's one where South Carolina

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Speaker 1: really cares. But they have not shown anything that would

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Speaker 1: lead me to think they're gonna challenge Georgia LSU Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just one of those days, right,

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Speaker 1: So you're either gonna have some stunning stuff. We're either

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about incredible stuff with Torres and me tonight,

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Speaker 1: or it's just gonna be chalk like crazy. But I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy it. Sunday is gonna be awesome. There's

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Speaker 1: a great slate of NFL games. Enjoy th oh stick

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Speaker 1: with Fox all day. Remember Fox Football. Saturday's got you

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Speaker 1: covered wall to wall. You don't want to go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time tonight. Bartie will be back with

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Speaker 1: you next week. Appreciate you. I'll talk to you with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Torres tonight. Stick with Fox Sports. Enjoy the pig

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Speaker 1: Skin Sports, Baby,