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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast, presented

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. I'm Amy Wells. I'm joined,

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Speaker 1: of course by Coach Mac Mac. How's it going great?

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Speaker 1: It's going great. It's good to be up here with you.

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Speaker 1: This is a Titans Radio edition of the Titans Amy

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Speaker 1: and Coach Mac Podcast. Because we have here with us,

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Speaker 1: live and in living color, Mike Keith, Voice of the Titans.

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Speaker 1: This is weird. Why is it weird? Because usually I

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Speaker 1: talk first. Yeah, well, welcome to my show. I'm the

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Speaker 1: captain now well played by I'm gonna tell you something

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Speaker 1: you'll want. Great, you'll figure out real quick. Mike and

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Speaker 1: this little interchange. She is in charge, trust me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm in charge, but I am

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Speaker 1: really excited to have you on the show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so many different things that you can talk about

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Speaker 1: when you have Mike Keith on a show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mike Keith is knowledgeable when it comes to obviously the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. He's also knowledgeable when it comes to all

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Speaker 1: things University of Tennessee sports. He's knowledgeable when it comes

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Speaker 1: to all things Tennessee as a state, including all of

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Speaker 1: the counties and where the dairy queens are located in

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Speaker 1: all of them. I mean, Mike knows a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I thought that maybe this would be a good

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Speaker 1: opportunity for us to kind of wander down memory lane

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Speaker 1: a little bit and talk about Titan's Radio, Okay, because

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Speaker 1: that seems to be where all good things really come from.

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Speaker 1: I'll look at you. Isn't that nice? But it's also real.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Mac would not be here with us if

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Speaker 1: not for Titans Radio bringing him back to Tennessee, his

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Speaker 1: rightful home. I say, well, I mean Titans Radio. People

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Speaker 1: don't really understand. I didn't understand when I was coaching here,

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Speaker 1: really the breadth and the length and the depth that

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Speaker 1: this radio station covered not only the state but in

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Speaker 1: this region. Because you know, when you're coaching, you really

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Speaker 1: don't don't have time for it, You really don't. I

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Speaker 1: mean I knew Mike Keith and and when I was

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Speaker 1: here with Jeff Fisher, we always appreciated his calls and

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Speaker 1: the way that he, you know, accentuated a game, and

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Speaker 1: it was important as important to the players, but as

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Speaker 1: far as just really knowing how it operated. And then

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Speaker 1: once you know, I was asked to come back and

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Speaker 1: got immersed into it. I mean, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: far reaching thing. There is no Titans Radio without Mike Keith,

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Speaker 1: without Larry Stone. Larry Stone, Yeah, yeah, there is no.

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Speaker 1: There's no there's no Titans Radio as as it is today.

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Speaker 1: And it's a it's a fairly fairly important tent pole

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Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans. Well, a lot of what Larry

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Speaker 1: did which was so important is he wanted us to

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Speaker 1: sound a certain way. He created a network, and he

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Speaker 1: treated the affiliate stations like they were the flagship. He

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Speaker 1: did things for them, He went over and above. The

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Speaker 1: level of service was immaculate. And I talk about service

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Speaker 1: not just hey, we need an autograph football for an

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Speaker 1: auction at our high school, but also making sure the

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Speaker 1: commercial breaks were lined up in a way that was

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Speaker 1: easy to operate, making sure that all of the queues

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Speaker 1: had a problem, making sure anything technical was always taken

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Speaker 1: care of. All you had to do was essentially show up,

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Speaker 1: run the game. It was easy to sell commercials. We

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Speaker 1: helped people sell commercials in local markets. I mean we

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Speaker 1: did that in Jackson. I'll never forget. We went on

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Speaker 1: a big station in Jackson, Tennessee, and they took us

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Speaker 1: on sales calls. We said, well, absolutely do it. And

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Speaker 1: this was in the spring of ninety nine, right after

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Speaker 1: we had changed the name. And we go into something

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Speaker 1: a big deal and Larry and I both start our

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Speaker 1: two man routine, well, the Titans are going to do this,

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Speaker 1: But he would walk out and then he would come

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Speaker 1: We're like, now, let me tell you about the Titans

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Speaker 1: it was a great lesson because I mean, we had

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Speaker 1: This is how you'll benefit. And you know, the guy

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Speaker 1: so they can make money off of it? Right? And

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Speaker 1: so people throughout the region, especially because we started off

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Speaker 1: winning sixty one games in our first five years, radio

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Speaker 1: stations added us. They made money off of us. They

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Speaker 1: did this crazy caravan where we would bring big name

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Speaker 1: you'd have Kevin Carter sitting at Bob's Quickmart signing autographs. Well,

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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a lot of money. Sure, So these

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Speaker 1: were all the things that we did in these days.

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Speaker 1: And Larry created this, and so Titan's Radio became a thing.

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Speaker 1: You could walk in and say Titans Radio to somebody,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, you're getting a meal, you're getting a

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Speaker 1: When we started, we drove around looking for radio towers,

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Speaker 1: really true did. We drove everywhere and we would see

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Speaker 1: a radio tower and we'd walk in. We'd say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we want you to carry our games. Most people said,

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Speaker 1: get out. I'm serious, this is private properties. But after

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Speaker 1: four or five years of this, we could walk in anywhere.

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Speaker 1: At one point we had over eighty radio stations on

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Speaker 1: Titans Radio. And the radio business has changed. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that there are eighty radio stations anymore. But we

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Speaker 1: go after him, because we think he will fit what

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Speaker 1: big deal in the National Football League. Well, he created

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Speaker 1: that reputation. It's a big deal, and he created that

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Speaker 1: and it's not easy. It's why we stayed on the

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent. He built this thing in a

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Speaker 1: but the path that he created and what he set

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Speaker 1: I knew that what Titans Radio was the impact of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I came in here, you and I,

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Speaker 1: we have big notebooks, you know, with game plans. But

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Speaker 1: and you said, this is how we do things. Get

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Speaker 1: League and they've been playing for a while. Everything, everything

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Speaker 1: They're not allowed to make that decision. Right. Well, they

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Speaker 1: is you're saying we're not going to let the radio

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Speaker 1: That's what this is. Man. We're gonna be everywhere. We

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Speaker 1: went after every hundred thousand watt radio station we could find,

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Speaker 1: you hit another button. I mean that's old fashioned junk, right,

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Speaker 1: Not really, but it is. It's old fashioned in terms

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Speaker 1: mean it's not to be critical, but just I know

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Speaker 1: a broadcaster. Now you're still a coach, and the minute

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Speaker 1: you wanted to coach again, you'd step back into that

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Speaker 1: and be coach Mac right away. But you've invested yourself

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Speaker 1: of pulling for you. They're like, hey, we're all in

428
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: this together. We'll have patience with you, you have patience

429
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: with us, and we all sort of work together. There's

430
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: only two clubs that did it. To me, the thing

431
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: that was so cool about it as to win. It

432
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: was presented because COVID was a massive, massive hit to

433
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: the whole world, and it was presented to us. Look,

434
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, numbers wise, you cannot be on the team

435
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: plane anymore, which Titans Radio had always traveled on the

436
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: team plane. Right. Every member of the Titans radio crew went, Okay,

437
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: how do we have to do it? That's fine, and

438
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: so we did whatever it took. I mean, you were

439
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: the travel agent, right, we did whatever we had to

440
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: do to get it done. And to me, that just

441
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: points up not only what this group is, but the

442
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: importance of it. And you're right, we were taking care

443
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: of very well. But we were also all very cognizant

444
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: of the fact that we needed to even be extra

445
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: careful about COVID at the time because none of us

446
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: could go down right. You know, we've got a small

447
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: group and everybody's job is kind of that person's job. Well,

448
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: it's like Brad Willis did everybody's job this year. Rhett

449
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: Bryan ended up doing everybody's job that year because we

450
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: had to switch in and out at different points. You

451
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: just said, Okay, this is what it's going to be

452
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: this week. It's not like we can bring in somebody

453
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: to the group. No, it's not like we can hire

454
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: a freelancer at the site. This is what we got

455
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: and so that's what we did, and it really took

456
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: me back to the early days of broadcasting. Lindsay Nelson

457
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: from Columbia Tennessee. Probably the first great television sportscaster in

458
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: our country's history, he said. At the time, he said,

459
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: if you can call high school football, minor league baseball,

460
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 1: you can call anything. Because you generally can't see, you

461
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: generally have no information. A lot of times you don't

462
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: have anybody working with you. And that's how I started.

463
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: I started hanging out the window trying to broadcast a

464
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: game at a high school in Knox County, and I'll

465
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: never forget thinking, surely it gets better than this. Well,

466
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, you weren't necessarily hanging out a window,

467
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: but it was like, Okay, this is this is what

468
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: we got right, And if you grow up in the

469
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: business that way, you understand that. Oh well, I mean,

470
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: if you were going to be a diva that year,

471
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: it was not gonna work. If you were going to

472
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: be some whiny Oh my headset doesn't sound exactly the same,

473
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: or I don't have the caviar for the booth, and listen,

474
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: there's some people into business like that, nobody in our group.

475
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: And it just was like, Okay, here's what we got.

476
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: We're all gonna pile in the van and we're gonna

477
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: go to wherever. And that's where it goes to my

478
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: greatest memories of that year. First of all is when

479
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: we went to Denver and they were brand new too.

480
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: Nobody knew what the protocols were, nobody knew how to

481
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: do anything to get into a stadium. Oh yeah, And

482
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: so we go early and you know, we're lined up

483
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: in the line and you know, the sun, it's hot

484
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: there at Denver at that time of year, and that

485
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: sun's really close to the earth because you know, there's

486
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: no layer of air in there. So we're standing in

487
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: the line and it's smoking hot, and you got these

488
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: poor people working up here. They really got no clue

489
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They've got it all set up where

490
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: you've got these nice digital things that you got to

491
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: scan to your phone and get. Well, nothing work because

492
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: there's no Wi Fi out there. Nobody thought about that.

493
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: And then and then it's hot and you're sweating. So

494
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: Mike Keith is the only one that can get his

495
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: to work. The rest of us are standing there like

496
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: a dog looking at a typewriter, going, we got no idea,

497
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: how do we get how are we going to get

498
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: in here? They finally let him in and the lady

499
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: sticks the thermometer on his head and goes, one, oh

500
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: six point five, WHOA, Mike's not feeling well, Mike's dead.

501
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Mike's dead and he still worked in here. And then

502
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: the all of that that it took to be able

503
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: to just get into the building took an hour. It

504
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: took an hour. It took us an hour to get

505
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: into the building. Amy and I got into a freight

506
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: elevator with a dude and and he said, where are

507
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: you going? And we said three. He went good, And

508
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how much we went up because there's

509
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: nothing dinging on the thing. And then he got out

510
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: and we said is this three? He went nope, and

511
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: the door just shot. So we're standing in the We're

512
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: standing in the freight elevator looking at each other going

513
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: what the hell? Oh, all of that stuff is just

514
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: it was just so great, I mean, and we got

515
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: it done. The other one, I'll say, we went to

516
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota and beat Minnesota. That was a real treat. And

517
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: then walking out, we recreated the opening of the Mary

518
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Moore Show with Amy Wells because we beat the

519
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: Vikings and Brad Willis, who is again a genius with

520
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: the video stuff, recreated it. She walked across the street,

521
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: turned around, spun through hat up in the air. We

522
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: got everything going. And then the way back to the airport.

523
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: He makes a whole video of it that that has

524
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: the kitten saying, sack the best thing ever. And then

525
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: the next day COVID hit the team. That COVID hit

526
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: the team, I mean didn't changed the the arc of

527
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: that season, but I mean it was just so many things,

528
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: Oh gosh. And then driving through the snow in Green Bay,

529
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: the great that was one of the greatest things, my

530
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: greatest relative my life, flash before my eye said hey,

531
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: why don't you turn on four wheel drive? And I said,

532
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: how about this? I said, Mike, I don't know much

533
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: because I was sit in the front seat with him,

534
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: and he's always the driver, and he's driving, and you know,

535
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: we're spending a little bit, you know, we're doing doing

536
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: some three sixties. And I said, what's this button right

537
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: here that you twist? It says snow mode. I said,

538
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: how about trying that? It was better? After that was

539
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot bad music. Four wheel drive really seemed to

540
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: help snow mode. You know, when you rent a car

541
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: and green Bay, look for snow mounds, fair point everyone well,

542
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: and there's so many different machisms that have come out

543
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: over the years. I mean, just off the top of

544
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: my head, we've got not yes, hell, yes, Buffalo. Yeah,

545
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: we've got good jobs. Sloman send us to the playoffs.

546
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: On that one, we've got Ford over Rooster. It was

547
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: really a contact made by a Titans player on an

548
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: opponent that really hurt the opponent. And it just drew

549
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: me back to my days in East Texas driving down

550
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: the dirt road, four pickup truck and that rooster runs

551
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: out in the road. You got no chance to miss him.

552
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: And but do you have to brace yourself for machisms?

553
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Do you anticipate them? Oh? No, I love it. I

554
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: think I mean, I think it's fantastic. I mean, I

555
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: know they're listening for him. I think it's the greatest

556
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: thing in the whole world. I think it's why you

557
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: listen as you listen for the personality of every broadcast,

558
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: and Titans Radio has taken on his personality, which is

559
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: so great because people enjoy it. We're not doing and

560
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, a joke a minute broadcast. No, but every

561
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: once in a while when that comes out, it's fantastic

562
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: because it's organic. It's totally it's all organic, and I

563
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: mean most of me is the thing. The thing though,

564
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: where I'm so fortunate is and I've told Mike this

565
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: and not to embarrass him, and because you know, the

566
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: person I'm getting ready to compare him to lives right

567
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: here now. And I remember Tony Romo and Jim Nance

568
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: did their first game here with us, and I remember,

569
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, talking with Romo, you know, just out in

570
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: the hallway going, you know, how are you feeling about this?

571
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: And I said, you know, this is I remember when

572
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: I started. And the thing about it is Tony Romo

573
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: is successful right now because guess who his guy is.

574
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: It's Jim Nance. I'm successful because my guy's Mike Keith.

575
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: I've put teams enough together to know this guy over

576
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: here is really good because of this guy. You know,

577
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: it's not just one of one off. But every now

578
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: and then I'll throw a little bit of coach Mack

579
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: in there, because it's just all I know how to be.

580
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: Every little I mean, it's gonna be once a quarter.

581
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: We're getting at once a quarter. People live for it,

582
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: people people live for me making my comments a lot

583
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: of times on the officiating because like that as a coach,

584
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: I could never really say anything. Now I can, and

585
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I look, I respect officials a lot. Sure, I don't

586
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: like it when they don't do the game right. I

587
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: do like it when you get so upset when they

588
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: won't set the ball and you can't get your down

589
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: the distance and you can't call it. And I really

590
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: like that because now I can really go in on it,

591
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: and he does often. Mackn you believe that you celebrated

592
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: your one hundredth game. I really had no idea. But

593
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: you know what that points out, guys, really as to

594
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: how much fun you're having doing it. When all that

595
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: was presented to me, I went, really, you did it

596
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: doing games and getting ready for games, just like our

597
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: preparation meeting you in writin I every Thursday. Those prep

598
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: meetings to me are really fun. They're fun because they're

599
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: informed you, they're important. But doing the game is so

600
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: much fun because of this. We prepare a lot, but

601
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: we're in the moment. We're in the moment, and when

602
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: you do a game with Mike Keith, it doesn't matter.

603
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna do it with the windows open. I mean,

604
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: as cold as I've been in my life as some

605
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: of these hundred games I've done with Mike Keith. And

606
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: the window is going to be open because people will

607
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: ask me that if they don't know this, Oh Mike,

608
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: you really must enjoy this now because all the years

609
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I coached, I'm on the sideline. You're all bumbled up,

610
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: and they said, you really must enjoy it. You guys

611
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: are going up here. Weather's gonna be terrible. You'll be

612
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: in the booth. I went, no, no no, no, no. In fact,

613
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: they're big windows where a lot of it can come through.

614
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: And I said, because that's why we do it, because

615
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 1: we want to be in the moment, right And that's

616
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: what Mike Keith has always done with the fans. You

617
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: want to be with the fans. You want to be

618
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: in the moment. And that was the toughest thing about

619
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty was not having the fans there to get

620
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: the sense of what it really feels like. The fans

621
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: let you know when it's a big moment. They make

622
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: you understand when something big has happened or is about

623
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: to happen, or they're let down. The sense of the

624
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: place is a big part of the story, and they

625
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: tell you and at the places where we can't open

626
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: the windows. In Kansas City in particular, it's really really

627
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: difficult to get a bead on that. Yeah, I don't

628
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I really like it when they're close,

629
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: like they are in Cleveland or like they are in Baltimore,

630
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: where you can have some friendly exchanges with them. I

631
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: absolutely love that. And you do, oh, I do. And

632
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: then and then when you start making your calls, you know,

633
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: especially especially you know, Sack is great. Touchdown Titans is

634
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: great because the level of the decibel goes up just

635
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: about like a jet engine. And those fans that are

636
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: sitting there, they all turn around. They don't really enjoy it.

637
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore exchange, am I remembering? Oh yeah, it was outstanding. Yeah,

638
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 1: and then and they all turn around. Cleveland was great too.

639
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: The year we went up to play Cleveland, remember it

640
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: was open when they were going to win the Super Bowl.

641
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: They'd already won it, and everybody told us that. When

642
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: we walked in and they had eighteen penalties, and there's

643
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: a guy right below us, it's just going apoplectic. I mean,

644
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: he's losing his mind, he's spinning around, he's already lost

645
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: his shirt. He's throwing his hat. I'm thinking he will

646
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: take his pants off. He's so mad. And he turns

647
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: around and he's looking up at our booth, going, you know,

648
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: like every call that they're making is our fault, right,

649
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: And so I finally just leaned down. I said, tell

650
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: him a quit holding. Then he really went off. He

651
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: didn't care for No, didn't like that. I do not

652
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: talk to the fan I do I do not. I

653
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: ignore them. I love it when you stir them up.

654
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: And then I'm going, what the hell I can't. I'm

655
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: sorry that y'all are any good. If I've upset these people,

656
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: If my loudness and enthusiasm for the Titans has upset

657
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: these people, I really don't care. It is so great

658
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: they can all take a walk. It's a beauty of

659
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: the NFL, though, is because people care so much and

660
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: every game is important. I mean, you don't have a

661
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: game where you're playing a one double a team. I mean,

662
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: it's it's on every single week, even if it's a

663
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: team with a poor record. It's the best thing about

664
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: the NFL, and it's the worst thing about the NFL

665
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: because when you lose Godlee, it hurts. Oh my gosh.

666
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: You know, I've never done a losing season and broadcasting career.

667
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: That's why you're staying we've lost it. But we've lost games,

668
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: and I can remember the times when all of us

669
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: would be standing either in the booth at home or

670
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: in the parking lot, are just kind of staring off

671
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: into because we're invested. Oh yeah, we're invested deep, just

672
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: like our fans are. But I mean as much as

673
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: as this organization embraces Titans Radio and makes us part

674
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: of it, well, then you feel every bit of Oh

675
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: you feel every bit of it. And I think that

676
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: comes through in the broadcast too, because people know that.

677
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: So somebody asked me the other day. They said, the

678
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Cincinnati game must have been hard. Yeah, and it was,

679
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: no doubt, But for me, it was the aftermath that

680
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: was much harder, because when you're doing it, you've still

681
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: got to do the work right. I mean, the guy

682
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: makes the field goal, I mean you've got to call

683
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: it and passionally. I'm not going to get on there

684
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: and you know I'm not doing that right. The guy

685
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: made the kick, when the game, tip your hat, give

686
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: them credit, and you know you're you're working it. That's

687
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: how I was taught. You know, we're for the Titans,

688
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: you know that. But I'm not demeaning the other team.

689
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not making fun of anybody. They are professionals. I

690
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: have great respect for what they do. We're gonna call

691
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: the ball game so that when we have to tell

692
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: you something, you have a sense that we are objective

693
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: enough to be giving you the straight scoop, right. And that,

694
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: to me is what I like about the way that

695
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: we do. It's very credible because it's all real at

696
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: that moment you're doing your job. At the minute you

697
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: take your headset off, and at the minute you're through

698
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: with the postgame show and you start walking to the car,

699
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: You're like, someone, please shoot me. Yeah, shoot me right

700
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: in a face right now. That's where my coaching career.

701
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: I felt like that, oh a lot of times before

702
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: when I was a head coach at Arizona. One time

703
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: we'd lost three in a row and I went home

704
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: about one thirty in the morning, really dark, you know,

705
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: turn all the lights off, and just feeling awful. Things

706
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: were going really bad, and and and just took my

707
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: shoes off and getting ready to getting bed and got

708
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: stung right in the foot by a scorpion and all

709
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it just you know, if anybody's ever

710
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: been hit by a bark scorpion in Arizonia know what

711
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Somebody just heated a hot hypodermic stuck

712
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: it right through you. So I lay down in bed.

713
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: You know, you can feel the ting will start up

714
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: your leg because they got that's legitimate poison. Not great.

715
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going God, just let it reach

716
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: my heart. And just because because we lost three in

717
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: a row, I walked into a door. My wife closes

718
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: the door because she didn't want the sound of the

719
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: TV because she'll go to bed before me and didn't

720
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: want to sound. Well, it was dark and I didn't

721
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: see it. I walked right into the door. And I'm

722
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: laying there on the floor thicking. I deserved. It was

723
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: after a loss, and I think this is exactly what

724
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I deserve. I hope I die right. This hurts so bad,

725
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: but it does not hurt as badly as losing that game.

726
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: There you go. This feels like a very appropriate time

727
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: time to tell you guys about farm Bureau, healthy head

728
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: whatever you need, Yah, we're good. Absolutely, don't get sacked

729
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: by the high cost of healthcare. Make Farm Bureau Health

730
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: Plans your first line of protection because you two need it.

731
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. You guys,

732
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: we could sit and tell stories all day long. I mean,

733
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: this has been absolutely incredible. But wait, there's more. There's more.

734
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: There's more. That's what you get on the Titans, Amy

735
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: coat everything you want and more pack them because we

736
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: did and Mac mentioned this way at the beginning of

737
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: the show, but we did spend some time in Indianapolis

738
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: and one of the people that we ran into when

739
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: we were there is someone who is also incredibly familiar

740
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: with doing things the right way and working and grinding

741
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: to get himself to a place that is pretty incredible,

742
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: and that's Arthur Smith. He is a former Tennessee Titan

743
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: all the way through Coach Mac. You worked with him

744
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: him when he was just starting out in coaching, and

745
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: now he's the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. So

746
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: here's our conversation with Falcon's head coach Arthur Smith. So,

747
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, when you were working for Dave McGinnis, did

748
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: you ever think you'd be sitting here being interviewed by

749
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis as an NFL head coach. Well, I certainly

750
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: wanted to do the same thing as the day I

751
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: had done in this league, but I don't know if

752
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: i'd ever envisioned him interview him. Mean, now kuy with

753
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: eleven years later? How about that? I mean. This is

754
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: the Titans Amy Coach Mack Podcast with two outstanding guests,

755
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: Mike Keith and head coach Arthur Smith. It's really cool Arthur.

756
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: You know you know you and I've talked before, but

757
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. I was a head coach once,

758
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: a first time head coach. You were prepared. What was

759
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: your biggest surprise when it really started coming down the

760
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: day today? Talk to us about that. Yeah, it's really

761
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: how you're gonna manage your time because people are gonna

762
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: come through, and you know, you want to be open

763
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: to everybody, but you don't want every five minute conversation

764
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: turn into thirty minutes because you look up at ten

765
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: o'clock at night and you haven't gone all the things

766
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: you needed to do that day, and it keeps you up.

767
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: So you've got to stay efficient, be respectful everybody, but

768
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: be very conscious of your time. You know what I

769
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: found out too Arthur. That really helps is you've had

770
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: a year. Now you're familiar with your building, because there's

771
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: so many things that come up. I mean, every time

772
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: someone knocks on the door to a head coach's office

773
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, they never stick their head

774
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: in and say, you know what, coach Mac, coach Smith,

775
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: you're doing a great job. I just want to let

776
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 1: you know that that's not what happens when they knock

777
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: on your door. But now you've been in that building

778
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: long enough, you know who to go to. You know

779
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: where some problems can be solved. I mean, that was

780
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: the big thing that I found out. You know so

781
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: much I'm talking about in the building. I'm not even

782
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: talking about on the field to me, and you tell

783
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: me if if I'm wrong. The field is really a sanctuary,

784
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: oh no doubt. You know. It's almost where you can

785
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: escape and do what you know you love to do.

786
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: There's certain beings, trust me. I feel fortunate to have

787
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: this job and I love the job. But you're right,

788
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: we're all football coaches are art. You want to be

789
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: on the field, and it is you're sanctuary and that's

790
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: a great way to put it. But but coach, every

791
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: building is completely different. Now, I've been in three different

792
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: NFL ones and Tennessee I felt like I was in

793
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: three different ones is because of the transition as of

794
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: the ten years I was there. So he just learned

795
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: a lot. It was on a lot of different staffs.

796
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: You've been a part of every facet of being a coach.

797
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: It feels like you really worked your way up the ladder.

798
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: How helpful has that been to you now as the

799
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: head guy that you have an understanding of what every

800
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: role really requires. Yeah, I think you have a lot

801
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: of appreciation for everybody's job and you don't want to

802
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: lose sight of that because you still have the understanding

803
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: that it takes time. You know, it's not you get

804
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: these reports or things. It just doesn't happen out of

805
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: thin air. And you've got to look just a great

806
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: appreciation that and you know what it takes everybody in

807
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: that building to win, and everybody's got a job to do.

808
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: I know your dad's backstory from when he started Federal

809
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: Express at time, and as a CEO, it feels like

810
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: your experience now as a head coach matches up with

811
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: what he's done more than ever before in your life.

812
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: Are there things that you've seen from your dad, that

813
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: you've talked to from your dad, that you now use

814
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: as a head coach. Oh yeah, feel fortunate as anybody

815
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: you know to have that kind of mentors as your dad.

816
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's gone into five decades and that company

817
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: certainly changed and evolved. And that's what you have to

818
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: do in this job. I mean it's not the same

819
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: year in a year out. They change the rules, you know,

820
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: different set of circumstances come up. But we have a

821
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: lot of great conversations when I'm driving home at night.

822
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: You know the thing that I found out too, Arthur,

823
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: when you put a new staff together, you know the people,

824
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: but you really don't know him as a unit, and

825
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: everybody has a slot in that unit too. How much

826
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: more comfortable are you now going into year two with

827
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: a slotted staff that you feel like now you can

828
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of get everybody in sync even more. Yeah, it's huge.

829
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: You've gone through a season with them. You know, you

830
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: don't want to telegate, but you know where you need

831
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: to maybe spend a little more time. And everybody's different

832
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: spots or different stages of your career, but that staff

833
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: chemistry is huge. Being at an event like this. I mean,

834
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: it's the combine. It's a great thing. We've watched you

835
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of work the car wash of all the media things.

836
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: And how is that different because last year this wasn't

837
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: the thing that was happening. So this is your first

838
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: experience being at an NFL event as the head guy, right,

839
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: it's certainly different. You know last year we were you

840
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: know where we were with COVID and everybody, and they're

841
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: in a transition and not unknown and everybody dealt with

842
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: those same set of circumstances. But it's good to be back.

843
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: It's good to catch up, like right what we're doing

844
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: right now, It's good to see people. You miss people

845
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: you work with, and obviously you spend ten years someplace,

846
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: it's good to catch up. What do you respect more

847
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: about Mike Vrabel now that you've been away from him

848
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: for a year. Well, there's a lot learn a Tom

849
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: from Raves. You know, miss working with him day to

850
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: day and day out. We stay in pretty good communication.

851
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: Got so much respect and I think you have a

852
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: new appreciation of the things that come across his desk

853
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: that he did a great job. But you know, when

854
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: I was a coordinator, there's things that that didn't pertend

855
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: to me, and you know he was able to shield

856
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: those and that's a good thing. So I can't say

857
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: enough good things about Raves and really the opportunity he

858
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: gave me in Tennessee. You know, I was I was

859
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: there with you year, you know, much as first year,

860
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: and that was a different type of year. Then I

861
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: left and went to the rams, you know, with Jeff

862
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: Fisher when he was in Saint Louis. And when I

863
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: got there, you know, the first thing I told him was, look,

864
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: there's a young guy back there in Nashville that we

865
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: need to try to get on this staff if we can. Well,

866
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: the Titans were very smart in never letting you get

867
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: to that, to that situation to get away. The thing

868
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: that always impressed me about you, Arthur, and I can

869
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: tell you this now, and we've talked a lot, is

870
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: during ball games, regardless of what went on or whatever year,

871
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: you were very nonpulsed. You. You were able, even as

872
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: a really young dude, to keep your wits about you

873
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: during the ball game. That was so critical and that

874
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: I think that's why you generated trust from so many

875
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: different head coaches that came through there, because look, a

876
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: national Football League game. People don't even understand the chaos

877
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: that it really is. Yeah, I mean it it's a chaos,

878
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: but you were always able to And that's what I used.

879
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: I used to tell Jerry Gray, I said, you know what,

880
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: I said, that dude right there when it's going hot,

881
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: he's at his calumnist. What what do you find out

882
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: now about as a head coach? Because during the ball game,

883
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: as a head coach, you were in a different world. Now,

884
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: a different world. Where do you find out was different? Yeah?

885
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean you you know all those jobs you had before.

886
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: I think the most underrated job to be a play

887
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: caller is if you're the guy calling in the defensive personnel.

888
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: And it's an underrated job. And I did it for

889
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: four years with different coordinators. Everybody's got to feel in

890
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: a rhythm, especially when you're the defensive guy and you're

891
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: calling in the offensive personnel. And that was a great

892
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: job to have. And I've said, the hardest here to

893
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 1: do it was when I was at Old Mess because

894
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: you got a hundred guys on the side and nobody

895
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: understands like they're same personnel. You got people wearing the

896
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: same numbers and they tell kind of number of tricks

897
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: on you. Not that I've you know, forgotten some of

898
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: the tricks that Malzan did it all and I have forgotten,

899
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: but it trains you to make decisions on game day

900
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: because you got to make a decision because the play

901
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: callers relying on you. And that helped me as a coordinator.

902
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: The biggest challenge is the head coach, and I find

903
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: it that could be curious. What you think it's now

904
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: that you you you're in charge of everything. Is is

905
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: that the officials become more of an obstacle for you

906
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: and you try not to get caught up. And nobody's perfect,

907
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: and certainly there was a couple of times where you

908
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: feel like you gotta fight for you guys or you're

909
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: just playing bothered by their call locker coal, and so

910
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: that's a challenge every week. Yeah, you know, And I

911
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: love here you say that about that. Let's let's go

912
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: back to what you because when I had first retired

913
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: by Mike Dick in nineteen eighty six, we only had

914
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: seven coaches on the stag right, I was the youngest

915
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: by far, and Dick had told me, kid, you're going

916
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: to be in the press box and you're gonna tell

917
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: us a personnel, and I was shaken, sure, because the

918
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: thing has to happen like this. But what you love

919
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: what you say, because it hasn't changed over the years,

920
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: that job, because nothing happens until that job is done correctly,

921
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: and you only have one chance to get it right, right,

922
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: to get it right. You know what. It really helped

923
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: me Now now that I'm broadcasting with Mike Keith, I

924
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: can sit up there and I can say immediately what's

925
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: in the game, what's in the game. But that all

926
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: goes back to when I first started. I was just

927
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: about petrified, you know, the first time I was up there,

928
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: because if it's not right, you can't get it done.

929
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that. I'm so glad to hear you

930
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: say that. Look, the official thing, the official thing to

931
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: me always was this, and you you try to remove

932
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: yourself from the personal aspect of it because you know

933
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: they're trying to do again. I never really bothered me

934
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: about the quantitative calls. The thing that used to upset

935
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: me and still does. Now that I'm a broadcaster, I

936
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: can say anything I want about the officials and I do. Yeah,

937
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: and I do. And so now the thing that that

938
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: used to bother me. It wasn't It wasn't the calls.

939
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: It was the administration of the game, right if if

940
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: the spot's not right, if if if if the administration

941
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: of a penalty is not correct, if those things bothered

942
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: me because all of a sudden, now you as a

943
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: head coach, you know all the rules. I mean, I

944
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: know how you were back then when I was with you.

945
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: You know the rules, and you know, you know the

946
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: inside and the outs of the rules, and if the

947
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: guys doing it on the field don't know what that

948
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: That really used to throw me off. Sure, it is

949
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: frustrating the time because there is a lot of emotion

950
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: to it. And then you know, some calls are very

951
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: subjective and you get in there and you're a critical

952
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: part of the game, and especially with the tonic stuff.

953
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you make that call that's a

954
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty and it's a personal foul, and you know,

955
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: we had an incident in the Buffalo game, you know,

956
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: possibly going to one possession game, and then you make

957
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: an announced you know, third and goal from the sixteen

958
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: yard line. So there is a cause and effect and

959
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: they have a tough job to do, and you just

960
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: want consistency and then the team. You can't panic because

961
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: the team's gonna feed off you. Like I'm sure, I'm

962
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: sure Dicka was great with the officials. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

963
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: Letting me tell you something. Everybody fed off at him.

964
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Here's how they fed off at him. Here's how we

965
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: all did. As soon as he started to be a

966
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: ditka with the officials, everybody scattered. You want, you wanted

967
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: no shrapnel from idiot, from any of that. Yeah. Oh man, So, Arthur,

968
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: as you head into year two as a head coach

969
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: with an entire year under your belt, now, what do

970
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: you do differently? Are there things that you'll change? Are

971
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: there things that you loved and you want to keep

972
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: exactly the same. Yeah, there's things you look back on.

973
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that's a challenge, is to

974
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: be objective and with yourself. What are the lessons learned? Okay,

975
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: you know everything that's happening. You're one. You know, there's

976
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: a honeymoon period and there's so many decisions you have

977
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: to make, and you get through it, and now you've

978
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: gone through it for a whole season, all right, and

979
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: you go back no different than we do on Mondays

980
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: for a game and that's the hardest thing, especially as

981
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: a play caller as a head coach, because you really

982
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: got to be critical of yourself, not to be like

983
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: a martyr, but just to say, hey, if you don't

984
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: do that, you're gonna repeat that mistake, and that's what

985
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: you're trying not to do. So one of my favorite

986
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: moments of the twenty twenty one NFL season was you

987
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: giving Matt lafleur Or a hard time in the press conference.

988
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: Do you think people knew you were joking around that

989
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: you had that relationship with Matt because I was watching

990
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: a couple of commentators talk about it and they're like,

991
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: wonder why he's saying this about Matt la floor And yeah, yeah,

992
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: I probably was born gave me an opportunity and obviously

993
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm a's a friend of mine, and well, well, and

994
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: he'll bust anybody's chops too. I mean, it's it's not

995
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: like he takes any prisoners. Yeah, I know. It's it's

996
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: actually kind of funny the culture we're in right now,

997
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, they don't realize like it's okay

998
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: to have a sense of humor. You know. The other

999
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: thing too, are there speaking of that you know what

1000
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: I found out, and again, it'll last you for your

1001
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: whole career, even when you're you know, a long time

1002
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: from now, when you're done, like you know, like I am,

1003
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: that that group that you become a part of that

1004
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: stays with you all your life, It really does. I mean,

1005
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a special group that you've joined.

1006
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's hard to get there, but

1007
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: the fact is, and I know that you're doing this

1008
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: just you know, in joy that too, because those relationships

1009
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: with the head coaches are important, absolutely, I mean it's

1010
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: very important. And that was one thing that I learned

1011
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: real quick is that most everybody that's in that position

1012
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: is willing to help sure if you reach out. I

1013
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: was head coach of the Bears for six hours, didn't

1014
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: know it for three, so you know, we'll take that

1015
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: one aside. But when I got the Cardinal job as

1016
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: an interim, and that's hard, and I would reach out

1017
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: to people you know about what to do, and and

1018
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: everybody is willing to help that circle of head coaches,

1019
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, even though you're trying to beat each other's

1020
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: brains in on a Sunday, Monday or Thursday. You're willing

1021
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: to help, and I'm sure you've dialed into that too. Absolutely,

1022
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: you need allies. You need mentors in any profession, and

1023
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: because they've been through it before, and most people are,

1024
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, most people are willing to help you. And

1025
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: even guys I'd worked for before that aren't currently head coaches,

1026
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: I can go back. I can call Mike Malarkey, ask

1027
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: him a question. Raves has been a great mentor, you know,

1028
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: And the list goes on on lunch, Joe Gibbs, and

1029
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: then guys you meet along the way, a lot of

1030
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: good guys out there, a lot of good coaches. You

1031
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: push for it, you fight for it, You take every job,

1032
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: every opportunity you could get. You become an NFL head coach.

1033
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: Is it as much fun as it seems like it

1034
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: is to get there and then to be that guy?

1035
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: It is? You know, you realize it's truly. Don't get

1036
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: jaded in this business. That's the easy thing to do.

1037
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: It's like, there's so many good coaches out there that

1038
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: would scratch and call to get get an opportunity, just

1039
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: to get on an NFL staff. And then once you're

1040
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: there and you know you you're around for a long time.

1041
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: You need perspect to take a step back, and it's yeah,

1042
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean some days you got to pinch yourself, Like

1043
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: I get to be the head coach in the national

1044
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: ball Mac. How proud are you of Arthur's Smith You

1045
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: saw me hug him after the interview. Yeah, and just

1046
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: tell him I'm really proud of him. Because in twenty eleven,

1047
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: when I stayed with Mike Munchak for one year, you know,

1048
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: to be the senior assistant coach and kind of help

1049
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: everybody and help munch get started. Well, Arthur had come

1050
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: in from Washington with Jerry g and he was the

1051
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: defensive quality of control and so Jerry Gray, as a coordinator,

1052
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: had asked me, Mike, would you please look at and

1053
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: handle the third down pass rush stuff for us, what

1054
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: the opponents are doing protection wise, and then what we

1055
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: can do scheme wise, pressure wise to stop him. So

1056
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: I did that project during the week. Then I would

1057
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: go to Arthur and say, Arthur, Okay, here's what I'm

1058
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: looking at. What do you see what it done? And

1059
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: so anyway we put it together. And so then Jerry said,

1060
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, the first week, coach, Mike, on Thursday, I'd

1061
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: like you to present this to the defense and I went, no, said,

1062
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: I tell you who needs to present this is Arthur Smith.

1063
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: This is a bright dude, a bright young dude, and

1064
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: he needs to get that experience of presenting to a team.

1065
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: I said, because one day he's going to do this.

1066
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: And I said, so he needs that. So he did,

1067
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, the whole year, and I think Arthur's always

1068
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: always appreciated that. Sure, you know he did. And so

1069
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: he and I have become very close, very good friends.

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00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: And then when I came back here, he's still here

1071
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: through all the different regimes. You guys know him, know

1072
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: him well. But he earned it. I sat down with

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00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: several of his coch just at the combine and just said,

1074
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: how's Arthur And they said, he's incredible. They say he

1075
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: gets it from a lot of different angles, and he's

1076
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: always willing to listen. But he's a decision maker. This

1077
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: is a people business, and you've got to be a

1078
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: genuine people person. Arthur Smith is at I just remember

1079
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: when Matt Lafleura went to Green Bay and all of

1080
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: us who had worked with him immediately said, well, you

1081
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: got to promote Arthur Smith. And of course the public

1082
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: not Arthur Smith, bring it somebody from somewhere, and he's like, no,

1083
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: he's really good. And then he left. Everybody's like Arthur

1084
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: Smith left the world. And they're still lamenting the fact

1085
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: that Arthur Smith isn't here after, you know, three years

1086
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: ago they were like, how can you hire this guy? Right?

1087
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: The fellows really like him and really connect with him. Well,

1088
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: give Mike Vrabe a lot of credit. He's got a

1089
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: lot of strengths as a head coach, but he knows people,

1090
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: and he knows coaches, and he knows how coaches interact

1091
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: with players. I mean, look look at the look at

1092
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: the guys that he's he's high and a lot of

1093
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: it comes with that. Well, why would you do that?

1094
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: Because Mike Vrabel knows, he knew, he knew, he knew

1095
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: his coordinators. Now he knows these guys, because there's much

1096
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: more to it than just what's out there on Sports Center.

1097
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: It's what's in the building. It's how they react and

1098
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: how they go. And that was a great higher. And

1099
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: then of course Arthur Blank made a really nice higher.

1100
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: It's a very good heart. I mean to go seven

1101
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: and ten last year and somebody said to us Amy

1102
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: and I think he was accurate that they may be

1103
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: the favorites in the NFC South. Yeah, which is incredible.

1104
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: I mean for a guy who's in his second year

1105
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: as a head coach to be able to bring a

1106
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: team together that was I mean, had some legitimate issues

1107
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 1: when he walked in. Be able to bring them together,

1108
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: create a solid foundation in his first year, and then

1109
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: have the expectations like that in just his second year

1110
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: in charge of the program, It's pretty remarkable. Arthur's like

1111
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel. He's not about Mike Vrabel. He's about the

1112
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: success of the group. What I like though, is how

1113
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: much credit that he gave Mike Vrabel. Absolutely, and he's

1114
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: very he's very beholding to Mike Vrabel. This is a

1115
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: hard business. It's a hard business. As a coach, I've

1116
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: lived it for thirty one years in this league. It's

1117
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: a hard, hard business because you've got a real thin

1118
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: line as to you know, relationships are broken in this

1119
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: business because just going back to what you were talking

1120
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: about earlier, just that the crest falling like death nature

1121
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: that losing games is it can break relationships. But when

1122
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: you're able to get past that and then still be

1123
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: able to recognize that even if you go on your

1124
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: own path, you realize who helped you. And I loved

1125
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: the things that he said about Mike Vrabel. Awesome, guys,

1126
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: this has been so much fun. It has been. Mike

1127
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: said it was a strange sitting down not being able

1128
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: to talk first. Yeah, but he got to talk in

1129
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: the entire middle parts. Wow, I'm saying shot no never

1130
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: no shots on this show. We don't take did say

1131
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: it one time during it? I was afraid of this. Well,

1132
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Mike Keith, thank you so much for taking some time

1133
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: to hang out with us. Coach Mack always a pleasure.

1134
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for showing up for your own show. God bless.

1135
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: I do think you should be calling it tack them

1136
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: though Titans Amy Coach Mack. I know you love TAM.

1137
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: You guys love an acronym. I don't need any more

1138
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: acronyms in my life. You do what you want. Mac.

1139
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of your show. So no, it's

1140
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: not kind of my show. I agree with Mike. Now,

1141
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: it's not your show. You lost it there, it is

1142
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: lost it tackam podcast. Oh my god, I'll do the

1143
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: vo for you. Welcome to Tackle. I'm losing control of

1144
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: my own lost control for Mike Keith and coach Mack.

1145
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm Amy. Well, thank you for listening to the Titans

1146
00:57:44,560 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: Amy and Coach Mac podcast Tack Them, No Bat The

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Speaker 1: Bea