WEBVTT - S1: E16 – Murder on the Parkway, Part 1 

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<v Speaker 1>A wealthy couple spent an evening gambling in Atlantic City,

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<v Speaker 1>but found trouble on their way home.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a problem with this tire. He stopped at

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<v Speaker 2>rest stop and then he was knocked out from behind,

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<v Speaker 2>and his wife was shot twice in the back and

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<v Speaker 2>died almost immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>The mystery over what happened led investigators to a telephone

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<v Speaker 1>some fourteen hundred miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>They had no motive, they had no opportunity, they had

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<v Speaker 2>no money trailed. They only had those punge calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we're in New Jersey for part one of Murder

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<v Speaker 1>on the Parkway. I'm Sloan Glass and this is American

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<v Speaker 1>homicide and just a warning that what you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>hear is graphic.

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<v Speaker 3>Please take care while listening.

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<v Speaker 1>When New Jersey legalized gambling in the late seventies, Atlantic

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<v Speaker 1>City came roaring back to life.

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<v Speaker 3>By the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the East coast version of Las Vegas, and

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<v Speaker 1>for locals like Robert and Maria Marshall, it was where

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<v Speaker 1>they went for their weekly date night.

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<v Speaker 4>She liked Atlantic City, She'd liked going out to dinner there.

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<v Speaker 5>They had friends down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Churchill investigated major crimes for the Ocean County Prosecutor's office.

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<v Speaker 4>They noted a chef down there where they went, and

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<v Speaker 4>he would come out and make a big fuss over

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<v Speaker 4>her and him.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria and Robert were a popular couple who many called

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie and Ken. Maria was a stunning blonde. They were

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<v Speaker 1>high school sweethearts. The two were a nineteen eighties version

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<v Speaker 1>of a power couple.

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose it would be an ideal American family.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert was a successful insurance salesman. In nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>he sold more than fifty million dollars worth of insurance

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<v Speaker 1>that afforded the Marshalls a lavish lifestyle filled with expensive cars,

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<v Speaker 1>a boat, and a fancy house in the New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>suburb of Tom River.

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<v Speaker 4>They were members of the Thomsriver Country Club. Most of

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<v Speaker 4>their social life surrounded that particular place. They had three

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<v Speaker 4>boys who were very active in swimming and tennis and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>At the country club.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria was known as the mom of the swim team.

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<v Speaker 1>At every swim meet, you'd find her and Robert cheering

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<v Speaker 1>on their kids in the stands.

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<v Speaker 3>The couple made family time a priority.

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<v Speaker 4>As a matter of fact, they used to take off

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<v Speaker 4>every Friday to be with the family, and many people

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<v Speaker 4>at the country club admired him for that and other things.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night of September sixth, nineteen eighty four, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>and Maria had dinner and drinks in Atlantic City. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>they played some blackjack and called it a night just

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<v Speaker 1>before midnight.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a school night, so she said she had

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<v Speaker 4>to be home early because the kids had to get

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<v Speaker 4>ready for school the next morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria always treated her boys to pancakes breakfast, and since

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<v Speaker 1>it was a Thursday night, she had to be up

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<v Speaker 1>early the next morning, so Robert cashed out his blackjack

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<v Speaker 1>winnings and the two headed home.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a short drive, maybe an hour or so

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<v Speaker 4>from Tom's River.

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<v Speaker 1>As their Cadillac headed north on the Garden State Parkway,

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<v Speaker 1>Maria slid off her shoes and earrings and laid back

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<v Speaker 1>in her seat to get a little sleep, but Robert

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<v Speaker 1>was concerned with how his Cadillac was handling the road.

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<v Speaker 4>He was having trouble with the tire almost immediately when

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<v Speaker 4>he left Atlantic City, but it got progressively worse as

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<v Speaker 4>he came up the area.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a forty five mile drive from Atlantic City

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<v Speaker 1>to Tom's River and Robert tried his best to make

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<v Speaker 1>it all the way home, but the tire had other plans.

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<v Speaker 1>The faster he drove, the more it would shimmy and weave.

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<v Speaker 5>He thought it might have been a slow leak, but

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<v Speaker 5>he had to pull off and see what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's exit was still fifteen miles away when he decided

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<v Speaker 1>to pull over at the Oyster Creek picnic area. Back

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen eighties, these picnic areas along highways were

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<v Speaker 1>popular for travelers who needed a place to stop, stretch

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<v Speaker 1>their legs, and use the restroom.

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<v Speaker 3>The only problem with.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oyster Creek picnic area was that it was tucked

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<v Speaker 1>among a bunch of trees.

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<v Speaker 5>It was very dark. There was no lights.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing there is a cinder block building that

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<v Speaker 4>has restrooms in it. The only light in that area

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<v Speaker 4>is about three hundred yards down.

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<v Speaker 5>Where the rest area is.

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<v Speaker 6>That.

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<v Speaker 4>He pulled an air to check on the tire, went

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<v Speaker 4>to the back, told his wife to pop the trunk

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<v Speaker 4>from the glove compartment inside the cadillac. There's a switch

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<v Speaker 4>you can hit and it pops the trunk in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>The light from the trunk lit up the nearly pitch

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<v Speaker 1>black picnic area. As Robert bent down to examine the

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<v Speaker 1>rear passenger tire, he noticed another car pull in behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>Seconds later, someone hit Robert over the head and he

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<v Speaker 1>fell to the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>Next thing you knew, he was waking up from being

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<v Speaker 5>hit on the head.

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<v Speaker 1>Unconscious, Robert felt woozy, his head was pounding, and a

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<v Speaker 1>warm stream of blood ran from his forehead and down

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<v Speaker 1>his cheek. He managed to get back on his feet,

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<v Speaker 1>put his hands into the pockets of his tan khaki.

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<v Speaker 3>Pants and found them empty.

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<v Speaker 1>His wallet and the two grand he won from playing

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<v Speaker 1>blackjack were gone.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing ran through his mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody must have followed him from Atlantic City and did this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when Robert ran towards the front of his Cadillac

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<v Speaker 1>to check on Maria.

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<v Speaker 4>Missus Marshall was found in the front seat of the car.

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<v Speaker 4>She died of two gunshot wounds to the back that

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<v Speaker 4>eventually hit her heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's wife of twenty years was gone. He cried out

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<v Speaker 1>into the dark ness for help, but there was no

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<v Speaker 1>one around.

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<v Speaker 4>He then ran out in the parkway, flagged down a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of people who were coming back from Atlantic City,

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<v Speaker 4>and they got help.

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<v Speaker 7>My name is Dan mahoney and I was an investigator

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<v Speaker 7>with the Ocean County Prosecutor's Office Major Crime Unit.

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<v Speaker 1>In the early morning hours of September seventh, nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Mahoney responded to the picnic area.

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<v Speaker 7>We got to call that there was a homicide, robbery,

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<v Speaker 7>homicide at that location and there was one victim. Missus

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<v Speaker 7>Marshall had been shot twice. The two wounds were almost

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<v Speaker 7>on top of each other. She wasn't giving any resistance,

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<v Speaker 7>she wasn't fighting. She probably never knew what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The killer executed Maria with a forty five. They took

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<v Speaker 1>her purse, but her gold jewelry and wedding ring were.

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<v Speaker 3>Left untouched, which is odd.

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<v Speaker 1>So whoever did this seemed to be after their ca

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<v Speaker 1>and they picked a perfect place for the crime.

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<v Speaker 7>There was no restaurants, gas stations, or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 7>It was secluded. It was secluded. It was about I'd

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<v Speaker 7>say two miles from the larger rest area.

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<v Speaker 1>Detectives found a pool of blood at the rear of

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<v Speaker 1>the car where Robert Marshall fell after being hit on

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<v Speaker 1>the head. The gash on his head required a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of stitches at a local hospital. He was released around

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<v Speaker 1>sunrise and immediately met with the police.

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<v Speaker 5>He wanted to know who who killed his wife.

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<v Speaker 7>He wanted this to get to the bottom of this tragedy.

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<v Speaker 3>The investigation took off from there.

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<v Speaker 7>We had a lot of questions and most of them

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<v Speaker 7>had to be answered by mister Marshall. When did he

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<v Speaker 7>plan to go to Atlantic City? Did he see anybody

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<v Speaker 7>down there that he knew? Did he think he was

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<v Speaker 7>being followed? Will you rob or you're missing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert told the police that he left Atlantic City with

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars and explained how the tire was acting

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<v Speaker 1>up on their way home.

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<v Speaker 7>And I guess when he got out to take a

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<v Speaker 7>look at the tire he was attacked. The lost consciousness

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<v Speaker 7>I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert told police he remembered a dark colored sedan pulled

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<v Speaker 1>in behind him at the rest stop, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't think anything of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought the driver had either pulled in to take

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<v Speaker 1>a nap or had stopped to help him with his tire.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe it was the passenger rear that was flat,

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<v Speaker 7>and it looked like it suffered damage to the wall

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<v Speaker 7>of the tire, not the tread like a nail would

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<v Speaker 7>do or you picked up a piece of debris on

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<v Speaker 7>the road cut the tire.

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<v Speaker 5>This was on the side of the tire.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of the weekend, Robert had hired a

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<v Speaker 1>top notch investigator from nearby Philadelphia and offered a ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars reward for information related to his wife's murder.

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<v Speaker 7>To me, it's always been about the victim. The victim

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<v Speaker 7>needs justice. I know you've heard it before, but they

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<v Speaker 7>can't speak for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Maria mar Shell could not talk.

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<v Speaker 1>The private investigator she had hired that summer would be

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<v Speaker 1>the first to talk with detectives. The newspaper headline set

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Woman slain at rest area on New Jersey Parkway.

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<v Speaker 1>That woman was a forty two year old mother of

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<v Speaker 1>three named Maria Marshall.

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<v Speaker 6>She was a wonderful, wonderful person that everybody loved. I

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<v Speaker 6>mean everybody was shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria's friend, Linda Fenwick, heard the tragic news from her son.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember standing by the refrigerator and he said, guess

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<v Speaker 6>what happened. Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Linda was shocked to hear her friend and carpool partner

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<v Speaker 1>had been murdered.

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<v Speaker 6>Our children went to swim camp in the middle of

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<v Speaker 6>Pennsylvania and we would drive back and forth. I would

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<v Speaker 6>drive one way, she would drive the other way. There

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<v Speaker 6>were meets several times a week, and we always went

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<v Speaker 6>to their house afterwards because they always entertained the team.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marshalls would videotape the swim meets and then hosts

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<v Speaker 1>the team for a viewing party, where Maria would serve pizza,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why they called her the mom of the

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<v Speaker 1>swim team.

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<v Speaker 6>Center of her world were her boys. There was no

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<v Speaker 6>doubt about it. They were the center of her world.

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<v Speaker 6>Everything revolved around them and swimming.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly all of Tom's River showed up at Maria's funeral

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<v Speaker 1>to support the three Marshall boys and Maria's husband, Robert.

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<v Speaker 6>He had a bandage on the back of his head

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<v Speaker 6>and he was crying the whole way down the aisle,

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<v Speaker 6>and everybody was sympathizing with him. It was very difficult

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<v Speaker 6>for everybody that knew them. Well, you know that this

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<v Speaker 6>could have happened to Maria because she was such a

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<v Speaker 6>kind person. You know, nobody quite could get a handle on.

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<v Speaker 6>Was it for money? Why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>A few days after the murder, investigators were still looking

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<v Speaker 1>for suspects and a motive.

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<v Speaker 7>It just didn't didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Mahoney investigated.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, if you're rob being, why incapacitate mister Marshall with

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<v Speaker 7>a bump on the head and then shoot missus Marshall

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<v Speaker 7>twice who was not resisting. And so I think the

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<v Speaker 7>main thing was to speak to mister Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>With Robert Marshall's help, law enforcement recreated the events of

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<v Speaker 1>that night.

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<v Speaker 7>He told us that it was a celebration to go

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<v Speaker 7>to Atlantic City. They had a dinner at a certain

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<v Speaker 7>restaurant that he always went to he liked. He was

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<v Speaker 7>driving back, felt that there was something wrong with the

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<v Speaker 7>way the car was performing the way he could make

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<v Speaker 7>it to the rest area. We pulled over just to

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<v Speaker 7>take a look at it, and he suffered a glow.

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<v Speaker 5>To the head.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators focused on the Marshall's rear tire and the picnic

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<v Speaker 1>area Robert pulled into.

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<v Speaker 7>It really didn't make sense to me to stop there.

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<v Speaker 7>If you haven't hire trouble. Anybody who didn't frequent Atlantic

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<v Speaker 7>City would know that rest area and know it is dark,

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<v Speaker 7>and you wouldn't get any light or any help or

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<v Speaker 7>people that pull off the road to try to help

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<v Speaker 7>you if you needed help, you would pulled off to

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<v Speaker 7>decide and put your flashers on.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert said he had a family friend who was struck

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<v Speaker 1>and killed while changing a tire on the shoulder, so

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<v Speaker 1>he chose the picnic area because he believed it was

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<v Speaker 1>the safest place to pull over.

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<v Speaker 3>But then there was the tire itself.

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<v Speaker 7>The inspection of the tire was sort of a turning

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<v Speaker 7>point for us.

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<v Speaker 1>In the daylight, detectives noticed that the rear tire of

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Marshall's Cadillac wasn't just an ordinary flat.

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<v Speaker 5>As the tire had been cut.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it was about an inch maybe an inch

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<v Speaker 7>and a half on the tire wall the side of

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<v Speaker 7>the tire.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators believed the tire was intentionally slashed.

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<v Speaker 7>That sort of give us a direction to go, because

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<v Speaker 7>you could not drive that car with that amount of

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<v Speaker 7>damage to that tire for any length of time.

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<v Speaker 1>The tire was intentionally slashed. Did it happen before they

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<v Speaker 1>left the casino or was something else going on here?

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<v Speaker 7>It was totally dark, so it didn't make sense to

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<v Speaker 7>me to pull in there. It didn't make sense to

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<v Speaker 7>me that did somebody happen to be in there? A

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<v Speaker 7>crime of opportunity at that time in the morning, in

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<v Speaker 7>that desolated area, it just didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And then investigators were surprised when a private detective that

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Marshall hired came forward.

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<v Speaker 4>I spoke with him about two days after the homicide

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<v Speaker 4>was discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Jim Churchill learned Maria hired a PI to look

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<v Speaker 1>into her husband's supposed extracurricular activities.

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<v Speaker 4>She hired a private investigator to follow Marshall on two

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<v Speaker 4>separate occasions, once in the spring, once during the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of the summer of nineteen eighty four. During the course

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<v Speaker 4>of the investigation, we found out that he was carrying

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<v Speaker 4>on an affair with a woman who was in their

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<v Speaker 4>social circle, and the private investigator reported that he had

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<v Speaker 4>seen mister Marshall and had photographs of he and her

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<v Speaker 4>together in the motel rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>A vice principal at the local high school named Saran

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<v Speaker 1>crash Hour was the other woman in Robert Marshall's life.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure how she found out, but I know

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<v Speaker 6>that she hired a private investigator or follow him.

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<v Speaker 1>Maria's friend Linda Fenwick was shocked when she heard Robert

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<v Speaker 1>had been cheating on Maria.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, nobody would ever have suspected there was a

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<v Speaker 6>problem in that marriage. The relationship between the two of

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<v Speaker 6>them seemed perfect to me.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Saran was a member of the same country club as

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<v Speaker 1>the Marshalls.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, they all played tennis together.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarann and her husband were tennis partners with Robert and

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Marshall.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't know Sir Anne. She was at an unhappy

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<v Speaker 6>mo marriage, and apparently he was too.

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<v Speaker 1>The police learned Maria planned to confront Robert about the

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<v Speaker 1>affair and seek a divorce, but she kept stalling.

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<v Speaker 4>After we heard from the private investigator that brought miss

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<v Speaker 4>cross Hour into the arena here, we thought possibly maybe

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<v Speaker 4>she might have had something to do with it, so

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<v Speaker 4>we stopped growing a way to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Jim Churchill brought Soran in for questioning.

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<v Speaker 4>She wasn't happy about the relationship she had with Marshall,

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<v Speaker 4>but she didn't apologize to us or give us a

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<v Speaker 4>feeling she.

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<v Speaker 5>Was sorry for. She didn't like the idea it put

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<v Speaker 5>herself in a position she was in.

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<v Speaker 1>Saran told the detectives she and Robert had been sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>together for fourteen months. The two hat plans to rent

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<v Speaker 1>a home together and leave their spouses. And the affair

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<v Speaker 1>was no secret to Maria because she found a phone

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<v Speaker 1>bill with a series of calls I'm Robert to the

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<v Speaker 1>high school where Saran worked.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think she was most concerned. We thought she

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<v Speaker 4>had some part in this.

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<v Speaker 1>A look into Robert Marshall's phone records confirmed what Saran

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<v Speaker 1>told them, But something in those phone records jumped out.

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<v Speaker 4>Certain numbers caught our eye because they were to a

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<v Speaker 4>hardware store in a place is called Boser City, which

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<v Speaker 4>is right across the Red River from Shreveport.

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<v Speaker 1>Shreveport as in Shreveport, Louisiana. The police found more than

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<v Speaker 1>thirty phone calls from Robert Marshall to that number. So

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<v Speaker 1>why was Robert calling a hardware store some fourteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>miles away.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked that the local police department down there going

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<v Speaker 4>to interview anybody who could give us information.

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<v Speaker 5>On Robert Marshall.

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<v Speaker 4>And they came back to me and said that a

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<v Speaker 4>clerk who worked in the store, retired from the US

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<v Speaker 4>Air Force, said that he met Marshall at a party

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<v Speaker 4>during the beginning of the summer of nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Police learned that during that party in May of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four, the hardware store clerk named Bobby Cumber spent

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<v Speaker 1>the night talking with Maria and Robert. He was even

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<v Speaker 1>spotted dancing with Maria. And after that party is when

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<v Speaker 1>all the phone calls began.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're trying to find out why these calls were made.

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<v Speaker 1>Most suspiciously, the final phone call between Robert Marshall and

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Cumber occurred just before Maria's murder, and investigators wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about their relationship between Bobby Cumber and

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<v Speaker 1>the Marshalls.

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<v Speaker 5>So Cumber now became a person of interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, that night of dancing with Maria Marshall would forever

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<v Speaker 1>change the life of Bobby Cumber. In the early morning

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<v Speaker 1>hours of September seventh, nineteen eighty four, Maria Marshall was

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<v Speaker 1>murdered at a rest stop along the Gordon State Parkway

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. Police learned her husband, Robert, was cheating

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<v Speaker 1>on her. They also found a bunch of phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>from Robert to a man named Bobby Cumber. Bobby worked

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<v Speaker 1>at a hardware store in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Within two weeks of the murder, the police glombed onto

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<v Speaker 2>the Louisiana connection by the phone calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Journalist Judy Peat covered the story.

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<v Speaker 2>There were thirty one calls between Marshall and Bobby Cumber,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what the police found.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost immediately, forty seven year old Bobby Cumber answered the

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<v Speaker 1>phone at that small Louisiana hardware store.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby, at the time was living in Louisiana, even though

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby was originally from New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Of soft spoken Bobby confirmed to investigators that he met

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Marshall during the summer of nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby never knew Robert Marshall really. He decided to go

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<v Speaker 2>visit some family in North Jersey where they still lived,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ran into his high school girlfriend, who invited

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<v Speaker 2>him to her daughter's graduation in Tom's River. She happened

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<v Speaker 2>to be the next door neighbor of Robert Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>At that party, Bobby Cumber noticed Robert was having a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time getting a drink, so he flagged down the bartender.

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<v Speaker 1>It sparked a conversation between Robert and Bobby that soon

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<v Speaker 1>included Maria Marshall.

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<v Speaker 2>He was stunned about how pretty Maria Marshall was, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was very flattered that a big shot in his

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<v Speaker 2>mind like Robert Marshall would pay attention to him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Marshall was wealthy, well dressed, and handsome, whereas Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>was a simple guy who enjoyed long drives in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>nana splits, and bowling.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very flattered that a tie and jacket kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guy would pay attention to him, because Bobby was

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<v Speaker 2>not a ty and jacket.

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<v Speaker 7>Kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>At that party, Bobby Cummer and Robert and Maria Marshall

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<v Speaker 1>spent that night talking. Bobby even hit the dance floor

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<v Speaker 1>with Maria.

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<v Speaker 2>But only fast dances. The Marshalls danced all the slow dances.

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<v Speaker 1>Together, and that was the extent of his face time

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<v Speaker 1>with Robert and Maria. Bobby told investigators he never saw

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<v Speaker 1>the Marshals after that party, but he did talk with

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<v Speaker 1>Robert by phone over the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>And Marshall asked Bobby if he could find him a

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<v Speaker 2>private detective, somebody to trace his wife he thought she

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<v Speaker 2>was cheating on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Marshall, who was cheating on Maria, said Tom's River

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<v Speaker 1>was a small town.

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<v Speaker 3>And people talked.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he wanted a PI from out of town

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<v Speaker 1>to look into Maria.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a series of phone calls to Cumber.

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<v Speaker 3>Lieutenant Jim Churchill investigated.

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<v Speaker 4>During one of the phone calls, he asks him, is

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<v Speaker 4>there somebody you know that can do an investigation. I

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<v Speaker 4>have a very sensitive investigation that I want him done.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't trust anybody in my area to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And Cumber he tells him there's a gentleman that comes

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<v Speaker 4>into the store all the time that he knows as

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<v Speaker 4>a former sheriff's officer, Billy Wayne mckinnitt, and he knows

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<v Speaker 4>that he does private investigations on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Wayne was a deputy sheriff in Louisiana who resigned

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<v Speaker 1>in the late seventies after he was accused of stealing.

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<v Speaker 3>He then sold used.

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<v Speaker 1>Cars and did private detective work on the side.

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<v Speaker 4>So Cumber gets in touch with Billy Wayne and says,

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<v Speaker 4>there's this guy in New Jersey wants an investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>Would be interested?

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<v Speaker 4>He said, well yeah, He said, it's going to cost

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<v Speaker 4>him because I have to go up to New Jersey

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<v Speaker 4>to do this, all the way from Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Cumber said that was the extent of his dealings

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<v Speaker 1>with Billy Wayne and Robert Marshall. Other than passing phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls between the two and these messages they were always

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<v Speaker 1>short and to the point, like tell him to call me.

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<v Speaker 2>He said. At the time, he had no idea really

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Judy Peet covered the story well.

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<v Speaker 2>The police hammered him, They were sure that he had

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<v Speaker 2>something to do with it, and Bobby mostly cried and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently shook through the entire forty eight hours. Police didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that. After forty eight hours, they did arrest him

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<v Speaker 2>for conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks after Maria Marshall was shot to death along

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<v Speaker 1>the Garden State Parkway, Bobby Cumber was charged with conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>to commit her murder.

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<v Speaker 4>At this time, we still didn't know who the shooter was.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't think it was Marshall. We didn't think it

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<v Speaker 4>was Cumber. So it's either Billy Woyne Kennon or somebody

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<v Speaker 4>that we didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>As Bobby Cumbers sat in jail awaiting his trial and

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<v Speaker 1>investigators were questioning Billy Wayne McKinnon, some mysterious news involving

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Marshall's surfaced.

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<v Speaker 4>When we arrested Cumber. Not too long after that, Marshall

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<v Speaker 4>Enn goes to a motel, the same hotel, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>the same room that he and Saran would go to

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<v Speaker 4>on the rendezvous.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Marshall turned up at the same hotel room where

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<v Speaker 1>he carried on his affair with Saran crash hour, but

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<v Speaker 1>this time Robert was alone.

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<v Speaker 4>And while he's there, he takes a tape recorder and

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<v Speaker 4>makes three separate tapes, and he puts him in an envelope,

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<v Speaker 4>and on the back of it says only to be

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<v Speaker 4>opened in the event of my death.

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<v Speaker 1>These envelopes with the label to be opened in the

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<v Speaker 1>event of my death concerned the hotel staff.

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<v Speaker 4>It's sitting in a outgoing mailbox that people can use.

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<v Speaker 5>As they got ron.

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<v Speaker 1>The police responded and went to Robert's hotel room, but

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't answer the door. They forced entry and found

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<v Speaker 1>him passed out next to a pile of pills and

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<v Speaker 1>a can of coke. They woke Robert Marshall up, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said he put sleeping pills into his drink and

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<v Speaker 1>planned to take his own life at the exact same

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<v Speaker 1>time Maria had been murdered.

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<v Speaker 4>He said he put it in a coke and swirled

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<v Speaker 4>it around with his finger and licked his finger a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of times in an he fell immediately sleep and

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<v Speaker 4>they took him to a local hospital down there.

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<v Speaker 1>So investigators got a search warrant to play those cassette tapes.

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<v Speaker 1>They heard Robert freely admit to his affair with Saran.

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<v Speaker 1>He also admitted to be massively in debt. Robert also

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<v Speaker 1>said he believed he was a suspect in Maria's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>but claimed he was innocent.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, I love Maria, I couldn't have done this

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff. There was another one in there

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<v Speaker 4>that basically said that he was dealing with this private

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<v Speaker 4>investigator from Louisiana, and he mentioned his name on the tape,

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<v Speaker 4>Billy Wayne McKinnon, and he said he probably followed me

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<v Speaker 4>and killed Maria because he had written me off for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert admitted to paint thousands of dollars to Billy Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>McKinnon to investigate Maria, including eight hundred dollars on the

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<v Speaker 1>night of her murder early.

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<v Speaker 5>Part of October. Billy Wayne McKinnon, he was arrested and

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<v Speaker 5>we say we want to play something for you, so

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<v Speaker 5>we play the Marshall tape.

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to hear a recreation of the tape that

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Marshall labeled to be opened in the event of

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<v Speaker 1>my death.

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<v Speaker 8>I felt compelled to hire somebody who I thought had

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<v Speaker 8>a good reputation. This was the guy who came recommended

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<v Speaker 8>by a fellow named Bob Cumber, supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 8>very good investigator. He made two trips to New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 8>one in June. After I wired him twenty five hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 8>he said he was going to be busy for a while,

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<v Speaker 8>but if I wired him additional money, he'd come back.

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<v Speaker 8>So on the second time, the evening Maria was killed,

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<v Speaker 8>I gave him approximately eight hundred dollars. He said he

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<v Speaker 8>would stay around a while do a little checking. I

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<v Speaker 8>found out later that his only purpose was to writ

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<v Speaker 8>me off.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Wayne McKinnon had a lot of explaining to do

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<v Speaker 1>to investigators, and he quickly admitted that yes, he was

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlantic City the night of Maria's murder, but he

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<v Speaker 1>says he didn't kill Maria. He was merely the getaway driver.

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<v Speaker 4>Over a four day period, we talked with him retrace

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<v Speaker 4>his steps, and we could not find anything that he

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<v Speaker 4>told us.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a deliberate lie or a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Wayne McKinnon cooperated with investigators and identified the shooter

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<v Speaker 1>as a friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Of his, a man named Larry Thompson.

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<v Speaker 4>Thompson's the kind of guy that does this. This is

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<v Speaker 4>what he does. He kills for money. He won't kill

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<v Speaker 4>for anything else but money.

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Thompson was a short order cook and his run

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<v Speaker 1>ins with the law were well documented.

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<v Speaker 5>Thompson has fingers missing on his hand.

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<v Speaker 4>Dogs bid it off because he used to do dog fighting,

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<v Speaker 4>and some dogs bid it off.

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<v Speaker 3>But Larry Thompson was no help to investigators.

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<v Speaker 5>Thompson pretty much refused to talk to us at all.

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<v Speaker 1>In December of nineteen eighty four, the police arrested and

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<v Speaker 1>charged Larry Thompson with the murder of Maria Marshall. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the third person charged, and there would be one more.

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<v Speaker 7>To the arrest of Larry Thompson. Robert Marshall was arrested

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<v Speaker 7>on December nineteenth, nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>The police charged Robert Marshall with being an accomplice to

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<v Speaker 1>his wife's murder.

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<v Speaker 3>But how and why?

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<v Speaker 7>Sometimes it's a relief. This wasn't that way. The family

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<v Speaker 7>believed in Robert Marshall and kept faith with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Robert Marshall have something to do with killing his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>His family, including his children, emphatically said no.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a tough thing to wrap your head around that

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<v Speaker 7>your father may have taken a life of your mother.

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<v Speaker 7>So and that's what the tragedy of this thing was.

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<v Speaker 7>Didn't have to be, didn't have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sloan Glass. We'll learn who killed Maria Marshall, who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't kill Maria Marshall, and how justice was ultimately served.

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<v Speaker 1>That's next time on American Homicide in part two of

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<v Speaker 1>Murder on the Parkway. You can contact the American Homicide

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