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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow

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Speaker 1: your Mind. My name is Robert lamp and I'm Joe McCormick.

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Speaker 1: And hey, we're bringing you a listener Maile episode. We've

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Speaker 1: got Carney the Robot out here with us today. Who

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Speaker 1: seems something weird is going on with Carney. I don't

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Speaker 1: have you figured out what this is, Robert, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just finished running the diagnosis software on our good mail

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Speaker 1: bod here. It turns out he is suffering from symptoms

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Speaker 1: of multiple Highlander personality disorder. Oh no, yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: apparently infected by that recent Highlander to the Science sing

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Speaker 1: episode that we did. And so he keeps altering his

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Speaker 1: ego and his character personification from being uh Rami raised

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Speaker 1: to being Connor, to being the Kurgan to being cycling accents. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like crazy. He was in Michael Ironside mode just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes ago, was really running amuck. Um, he settled

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Speaker 1: down a little bit. He's back in Connor mode right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what he was talking about a few

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Speaker 1: minutes ago when he just kept saying it's pronounced Whovianuvian. Well,

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Speaker 1: he was echoing the sentiments of a number of different

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Speaker 1: listeners who wrote in UH to tell us that fans

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Speaker 1: of the TV series and overall sci fi franchise Doctor

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Speaker 1: who are referred to as Houvian's No, that's incorrect. They're

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Speaker 1: referred to as uvi acts. I don't know, Joe, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the data really supports this. No, I'll

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Speaker 1: be proved correct as always. Okay, al right, well, uh anyway,

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Speaker 1: despite his programming issues right now, UH Carney does have

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Speaker 1: quite a number of listener mails for us related to

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Speaker 1: different episodes that we've we've put out over the past month. Now,

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Speaker 1: as always, we don't have time to respond to every

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Speaker 1: bit of listener mail or of social media interaction that

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Speaker 1: comes in, and we don't have time in this episode

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Speaker 1: come in over the past month or so. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna try and touch some some of the high points

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Speaker 1: have come in. Yeah, But, just as we always say,

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Speaker 1: if if we didn't have time to respond to you

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Speaker 1: not because we didn't like your email. We just don't

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Speaker 1: have have We don't have all the time in the world.

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Speaker 1: Here be it known that we do appreciate all the

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Speaker 1: keep it coming. But I think we should go to

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Speaker 1: our first email, Robert. All right, the first couple of

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Speaker 1: listener mails we're gonna read here. I have to deal

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Speaker 1: with our bugs under the Skin episode. So this one

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Speaker 1: is from Dominique, who writes then and says, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I was listening to the Bugs under the Skin episode

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Speaker 1: One night a few months ago, I was walking around

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Speaker 1: insects that proceeded to fly around my head. It was

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Speaker 1: reasons to go into your backyard with a headlamp, but

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Speaker 1: Ming says, Hey, Robert and Joe, just listen to your

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Speaker 1: and every duan Wu festival, my grandfather would crush up realger,

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Speaker 1: always for the show, my favorite in the Stuff Network. Ming, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Ming. We're glad you like it. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 1: Don't even get me started on chainsaw car in contest, Wow, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: chainsaw is the best thing to illustrate any concept. Next

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Speaker 1: item on lists came from our listener, Clayton. Clayton says

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Speaker 1: Robert and Joe. I've been listening to the show for

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Speaker 1: four years now, and let's make a list, and then

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Speaker 1: let's make a list. Episode might be your best yet.

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Speaker 1: aware of all the various reasons and types of lists

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Speaker 1: humans have made throughout history. List making is a huge

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Speaker 1: the list. Thank you guys for the show. PS. Invention

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Speaker 1: look at that's especially if you look at say Christian theology, right,

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Speaker 1: God is complex in amaze thing, right, and yet that

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Speaker 1: entity was not created by something else. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you know, you're giving privileged status

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Speaker 1: to the creator deity, and in this scenario is one

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Speaker 1: tends to do. But but still like it, even like

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Speaker 1: the basic Christian theology doesn't say that that, uh, that

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Speaker 1: it is impossible for something complex to come into being

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Speaker 1: without the aid of a creator, I guess, I mean

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Speaker 1: you can sort of take that in any number of

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Speaker 1: directions and argue it up a tree. But at any rate,

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Speaker 1: we'll getting back to the principle about accepting science and

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Speaker 1: also having some you know, for various forms of theology.

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Speaker 1: I mean, most of the scientists in history have had

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Speaker 1: some kind of theology, like a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of say, these nineteenth century scientists who were involved in

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Speaker 1: discovering evolution would have thought that probably there was some

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Speaker 1: kind of deistic creator, you know, that there was some

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Speaker 1: force behind the universe. But then they came to believe

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Speaker 1: that well, maybe that God did not in fact set

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Speaker 1: out animal forms or things like that those arose out

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Speaker 1: of natural physical processes. Yeah. I mean, you will find

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Speaker 1: a lot of atheists scientists, but you have also find

451
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Speaker 1: a lot of scientists too, uh to varying degrees, to

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Speaker 1: follow different religious worldviews. And I think there is something

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Speaker 1: highly advantageous in being able to to have more than

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Speaker 1: one worldview, to sort of shuffle them around depending on

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Speaker 1: you know, what you're you're dealing with in your life.

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Speaker 1: You know, you kind of have different It's like playing

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Speaker 1: a video game where you have different power ups, right,

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Speaker 1: you have different armors, different swords, right, and you you

459
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Speaker 1: put on different power ups depending on what your character

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Speaker 1: is doing. It's your character crafting something while you're gonna

461
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Speaker 1: change your build out, you know, as your craft character

462
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Speaker 1: battling orcs while you're gonna change your build out a

463
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Speaker 1: little And I feel I feel like I do that

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Speaker 1: a little bit with with worldview, Like what are you doing, well,

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Speaker 1: what are you thinking about? Like, what's the best way

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Speaker 1: to approach uh, you know the current um challenges of

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Speaker 1: of the world or of the mind. Well, yes, and

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Speaker 1: that shuffling can also, I think take place at I

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Speaker 1: don't know why, you say, just different levels. I mean,

470
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Speaker 1: for example, you don't have to be at a level

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Speaker 1: where you ever literally believe any stories in the Bible,

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Speaker 1: like literally happened in order to say, read the book

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Speaker 1: with pleasure and understand what it means, or to say,

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Speaker 1: read other religious poetry or here religious music that makes

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Speaker 1: reference to it and try to identify with the author

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Speaker 1: and like put yourself in that mindset. Alright, On that note,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break, but when we come back,

478
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Speaker 1: we're gonna jump back into more listener mail, and eventually

479
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to some Highlander two specific email. Carney

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Speaker 1: seems very excited. Oh yes, thank alright, we're back. So yes,

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Speaker 1: Carney is very excited because now we're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 1: and read it a little Highlander two listener mail. Alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: This first one comes to us from Dan. Dan writes

484
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Speaker 1: in I'm writing in response to your episode on Highlander two,

485
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: the Quickening. I'm so glad you finally made good on

486
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Speaker 1: your promise. Slash threat to do this episode, as it

487
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: was well worth the wait. We're glad, You're glad. While

488
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen any of the Highlander movies, I've i'd

489
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: always seemed to be part of the pop culture and

490
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Speaker 1: media landscape during my teen years in the late nineties.

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Speaker 1: And indeed, while it was, it was always on either

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Speaker 1: the movies, especially the you know the first, the first

493
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Speaker 1: one especially to get was on TV constantly. Is it

494
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Speaker 1: on USA all the time? Probably? I know I was

495
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Speaker 1: on USA all the time, so it's probably where I

496
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Speaker 1: watched that or TBS, TNT, those were my hangouts. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: he continues, um, growing up, I watched a lot of USA.

498
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Speaker 1: The Highlander TV series, both live action and animated, always

499
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Speaker 1: seem to be on no matter what day or time

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Speaker 1: it was. Even today, I can still sing home slash

501
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Speaker 1: home the opening of Princess of the Universe. That's just

502
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: how ingrained it is in me. I guess you could

503
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Speaker 1: call it the let it Go of the late nineties

504
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: cult cinema slash TV For me, I think that's a

505
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Speaker 1: song from Frozen. I know this from my friends who

506
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Speaker 1: have little kids. Oh yeah, that's that's definitely from Frozen.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Princess of the Universe is kind of our

508
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Speaker 1: frozen even and though for the TV show the movies

509
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: they never used the full version, you know, because it

510
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Speaker 1: gets a little weird later in the in the song,

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Speaker 1: it's still great, but I think it can be surprising

512
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Speaker 1: if you you expect it to maintain that same um

513
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: overtly like epic vibe that it has right at the start. Anyway,

514
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Speaker 1: he continues, keep up all the great work you do,

515
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: looking forward to a potential Science of Labyrinth or Dark

516
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: Crystal episode, and then he included a link to Cisco

517
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Speaker 1: and Ebert's review of Island or Two The Quickening, which

518
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Speaker 1: he says Ebert called the worst movie of Cisco called

519
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Speaker 1: the worst title of ninety one. Is this one of

520
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: the ones where they were Sometimes they'd come in and

521
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Speaker 1: they'd be like, I'm so glad that when people Sometimes

522
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: people would ask them, have you seen any really bad

523
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: movies lately? And they'd have to think, like, what was

524
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: a really bad when I saw recently? But occasionally there'd

525
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: be one so bad that they wouldn't have to think anymore.

526
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: They'd just be like, here's my answer for the time being. Yeah,

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00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: it's got to be grounding in a way, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with a lot of you know, of of

529
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: of sort of higher end indie pieces and artistic works,

530
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: to to just dig into something that is just, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: objectively bad. Oh there's nothing I love more than when,

532
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, when, when I've been deep in some cerebral material,

533
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: to just back out of this and watch Attack of

534
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: the Crab Monsters again, or go to some other giant

535
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: animal movie. Oh what, Robert, do you hear that? Yeah? Whoa?

536
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: What is that? It's something kind of cutting in cuttle

537
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: Cat's cuttlefish to the second oil age and he's kingdom

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00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: with burl of darkness. I don't dispute the eurostata, but

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00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: if he's down here, not blood but darkness, the Earth's

540
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: black riches. No, I could taste it on my lips. Today,

541
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the science of

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00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: transgenesis tens Genesis show. No, I guess it's gone now.

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00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't anything. Yeah, yeah, I just heard like

544
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: a high pitched, like like glitchy noise. Robert, you got

545
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: a bit of blood in the owner of your eye.

546
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I yeah, I'm I'm bleeding from m

547
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: I want to get get cleaned up here and we

548
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: can keep going. I'm good, I'm good, all right. Here's

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00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: another one about Hollander from Chris. Chris says, I love

550
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: the Highlander episode. My only experience with Hiler was having

551
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: a favorite uncle growing up who loved them. How do

552
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: you know that about your uncle? Like, your uncle loves

553
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: it so much he's talking to his nieces and nephews

554
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: about it. I think if somebody loves Highland or enough,

555
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: you'll know like that, it will be undeniable. His uncle

556
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: was Christoph Lambart. By the way, I only had fond

557
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: memories until your episode kind of pointed out some of

558
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: the things in my adult brain understands his bonkers. The

559
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: bit breaking down the actors slash characters slash accents made

560
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: me do one of those slapped the steering wheel laughs.

561
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: I had a suggestion also, with the Dune universe coming

562
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: back soon in a movie form, I would love my

563
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: favorite science show to dive into some of the wild

564
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: sci fi Frank Herbert gave us and maybe shed some

565
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: light on inspiration or real life echoes. Some episode topics

566
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: could include shields and engines, sandworms, and of course the spice.

567
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: Hope you guys are well and love what you do

568
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: as much as I love listening. Well, Chris, We've got

569
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: a treat for you because we beat you to it.

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00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: That's right. We did a couple of Doune episodes, uh

571
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of years ago. Have we rerun those?

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00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: We have? We rerun them once, Chris, Yes, go into

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00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: our archive, do a little search, and I'm sure you

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00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: find a search bar somewhere. Look up Dune Parts one

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00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: and two. I think those are those are a couple

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00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: of personal favorites of mine that we've done, and i'd actually,

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00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: i'd actually love to come back and explore a little

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00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: more about the Dune universe. I have a book titled

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00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: The Philosophy of Dune with it with different essays about

580
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, phil Philoso, offical treatments of some of the

581
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: ideas that Herbert uh used in the in the novels.

582
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: So I I think we could come back and do

583
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: more done in the future, certainly as we get closer

584
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Speaker 1: to the release of the next Dune film or films,

585
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: which which I'm very excited about. You know, one thing

586
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I can say about that upcoming Dune movie, I think

587
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: they made a good choice casting Paul not as an

588
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: ultra likable young actor, but as a kind of like

589
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: maybe kind of a little jerk, kind of torpy guy

590
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: that that Timothy Challome guy, like the jerk character he

591
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: plays in Ladybird. I can see it. That's I haven't

592
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: seen Lady Bird yet. Ladybird is great. Okay, they certainly

593
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: nailed some of the other casting. I do like the

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Speaker 1: idea of of Stelen scars Guard as as harconin We'll

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Speaker 1: see how that goes. Yeah, Okay, looks like we got

596
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: a great one up here from Amelia Amelia Wrightson and says, Hi,

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00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: Robert and Joe, I'm so happy you finally did a

598
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: Highlander themed episode. Well, I never had the pleasure of

599
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: seeing the Quickening. Was tickled to hear you mentioned among

600
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Highlanders various spin off series the two animated films. Now,

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00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't claim to be a Highlander connoisseur, as I've

602
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: only seen the original film and one of these animated features,

603
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: namely Highlander Quest for Vengeance. But although objectively terrible, Highlander

604
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Quest for Vengeance was my initial introduction to the series

605
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: and remains my most supreme guilty pleasure views of all time.

606
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: It's directed by Yoshiaki Kawajiri, better recognized for his work

607
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: on Ninja Scroll. Yeah, I love Ninja Scroll back in

608
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: the day. I don't know what Vampire Hunter d blood Lust.

609
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: I may have seen that. I can't watch some sort

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00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: of Vampire Hunter anime back in the day and the Animatrix.

611
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: It's also written by David abrama Witz, who gave us

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00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Highlander the Series and Highlander The Raven. It's one of

613
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Speaker 1: those the cop show The Raven is the Cops. So

614
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: we may have another listener mail by this, but I

615
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: think she was technically a thief and she like works

616
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: with a cop. It's still it's still a cop show. Um.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, she continues, I won't spoil too much in

618
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: case other listeners check it out, but we'll say this

619
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: addition to the Highlander series is absolutely worthwhile for the

620
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Celtic and Roman history buffs like myself. It's epic scope,

621
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: definitely plunges into the ridiculous, and like many of Kawejeri's films,

622
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: the animation alone makes it worth a watch. It functions

623
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: well as a standalone film, so even if you haven't

624
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: seen other Highlander related material, it's very accessible. I recommend

625
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: it to anyone who's a fan of the original. Well,

626
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: and now I want to see that too, because I'm

627
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely have nostalgia for for the Highlander series,

628
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: and uh, I have a little bit of I think

629
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm almost to the point in my life where I

630
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: can be nostalgic about watching some of these anime films

631
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: in college. Now, you know what, I think. I didn't

632
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: realize this until just now. I think this is not

633
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: the first time Amelia has gotten in touch with us

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00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: about Highland. Oh yeah, I think she might be a

635
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: listener who has written to us multiple times whenever we

636
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: mentioned Highlander on the show. So we we could be

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00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: dealing with a with a hardcore super fan here. We've

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00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 1: been cultivating, um a subset of our listeners who are

639
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Speaker 1: hardcore Highlander fans. Okay, this next one is response to Highland.

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Speaker 1: Is a response to Higlander two. And this comes from

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Speaker 1: our listener, Rami. Ramy says, Hi, guys, I just finished

642
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Speaker 1: listening to your episode Highlander to the science thing and

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Speaker 1: wanted to provide some additional information on decapitation in the

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Speaker 1: natural world. Yes, this is the right kind of listener mail, Yes, Ramy,

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Speaker 1: so Rami says there is a type of hornet called

646
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Speaker 1: the Asian giant hornet Vespa mandarinia, which prays on honeybee larvae.

647
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Speaker 1: The hornets, which can grow up to two inches in length,

648
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Speaker 1: would descend on a hive of honey bees in groups

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Speaker 1: and start decapitating them with their huge mandible to get

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Speaker 1: access to the larvae. A single hornet can decapitate as

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Speaker 1: many as twenty bees a minute. A small group of

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Speaker 1: hornets can eliminate an entire colony of thirty thousand or

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Speaker 1: more bees. The honey bee stingers are not strong enough

654
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Speaker 1: to pierce the hornets thick armor, but they have however

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Speaker 1: evolved another defense strategy against the hornets. Once a hornet

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Speaker 1: is spotted in the hive, the honey bees form a

657
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: tight ball around it and start vibrating furiously. This increases

658
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Speaker 1: the hornet's body temperature, essentially cooking it to death. You

659
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: can watch these awesome battles taking place by searching giant

660
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Speaker 1: hornet versus honeybees on Google or YouTube. The giant hornet

661
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Speaker 1: is an invasive species to Southern Europe, thought to be

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Speaker 1: brought here by cargo ships, and it has decimated honeybee

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Speaker 1: populations in the region. But it's nice to see the

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Speaker 1: honey bees starting to evolve defenses to a completely foreign predator.

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Speaker 1: Evolution at work right in front of your eyes. Keep

666
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Speaker 1: up the great work. I listen to your podcast every

667
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: morning on my way to work, and it certainly makes

668
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Speaker 1: my one hour commute uh and enjoyable one. I particularly

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Speaker 1: enjoy episodes about the natural world, space or history, but

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Speaker 1: you guys never disappoint Thanks for your time, Rammy, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Rommy. This is great. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. I never came across this. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: a this is a fascinating organism. All right. We have

674
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Speaker 1: one more, just one more listener male that is directly

675
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Speaker 1: related to Highlander to this one comes to us from France.

676
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, gentlemen for your varied and always interesting podcast.

677
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm a newbie with podcast, but I've probably already listened

678
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: to around a hundred of yours invention stuff to blow

679
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: your mind and stuff you should know. I also love

680
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: the ladies of stuff you missed in history class. Anyway,

681
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm a diet in the wool Highlander fan, but far

682
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: more the TV show than the movies. She's a Highlander

683
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: frand Frank fan fran gotcha anyway. Anyway, she continues, by

684
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Speaker 1: the way, I agree with you that Highlander to the

685
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: Quickening is one of the truly bad movies of all time.

686
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: I would like to hear what MST. Three K could

687
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: do with it. Oh, that'd be great. But I own

688
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: the video tapes of all six seasons of the TV show,

689
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Speaker 1: as well as the one season of The Raven. I

690
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: mostly love the show because they found an excuse for

691
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Speaker 1: Adrian Paul to take off his shirt in almost every episode.

692
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: I admit it. I can be shallow. That man has

693
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: a totally ripped body, and as a martial artist, his

694
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: fights were things of beauty. The Raven and here here

695
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: we get a further breakdown and what the Raven was

696
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: really like. The Raven is about an immortal who also

697
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: is a quite accomplished thief. Amanda the thief has known

698
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Speaker 1: Duncan Duncan McLeod, Adrian Paul's character from the TV show

699
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: for several hundred years, and she's beautiful and very smartass.

700
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Speaker 1: There were a couple of episodes of Highlander that had

701
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Speaker 1: Roger Daltrey. Yeah, of the who I remember these now

702
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: as the guest immortal and they were mostly comedy and

703
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: everyone seemed to be having a good time. Yeah, I

704
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Speaker 1: remember seeing Roger Daltrey on there, and now I've got

705
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: to look this up. I can't wait to see Roger Dalton.

706
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: Did they ever have Robert Plant as an immortal? No? No,

707
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: they lost their heads long ago, sadly, but but Daltry

708
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: was still still kicking. Uh. She also adds a little

709
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: bit about invention. She says, you asked an invention a

710
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Speaker 1: Toilets Part two about any science fiction toilets, and the

711
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Speaker 1: only one I can remember is from the original four

712
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: hour long two thousand and one. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: four four hours. I think she's she's having a little

714
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: fun there. I sixteen when it was released. I saw

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00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: that twice, and then a three hour long version, both

716
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: in Cinerama. In the long version, Dr Floyd is in

717
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: the pan Am shuttle heading to the space station. There's

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Speaker 1: a shot of him reading the instructions for the zero

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Speaker 1: gravity toilet. Thank you again for the entertainment and education

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Speaker 1: you've given me. Well, fran Uh. If you want to

721
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: know more about the zero gravity toilet, I think we

722
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: talked about it a bit in our episode on two

723
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: thousand one of Space obusely from earlier last year. Yeah,

724
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: we did. We did talk about it just a little bit.

725
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: That was the one of the one of the the

726
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: earlier movie episodes that we did. Uh. That scene is great.

727
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: That's Kubrick the comedian at work. Well, especially because it's

728
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: immediately preceded by him drinking out of a carton of

729
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: corn with the straw and then it just cuts to

730
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: him like staring at the toilet instructions you got to

731
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: kind of put things together in your mind. Okay, we

732
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: got one here from Adam that does involve Highland or two,

733
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: but it's also about our ninth planet episode. So, Adam says, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Robert and Joe, I'm writing in to help answer some

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00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: questions posed about various sci fi franchises in the past

736
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Speaker 1: few episodes. The first is about the planet Mandus, the

737
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: original home world of Doctor Who's Cybermen. Ah, this must

738
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: be an email from a huve on Ian. Now I

739
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: don't think that's right juvii on Ian. Uh. So, Adam

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: says Manda's is indeed both a parallel planet to Earth

741
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: as well as the ninth planet in our solar system. However,

742
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: the serial in which it first appeared was named The

743
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Tenth Planet because it was released in nineteen sixty six,

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00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: forty years before Pluto was reclassified to a dwarf planet.

745
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: And I think that would also be about forty years

746
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: after Pluto was discovered, right, Oh, perfect, Yeah, so Adam continues,

747
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: the geography of Mandus is very similar to Earth, with

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Speaker 1: the main and only apparent difference being that the continents

749
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: are upside down. Manda's drifted into deep space long before

750
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Speaker 1: humanity existed, possibly because of the Moon's orbit around Earth. Luckily,

751
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: there's no problem that television sci fi from the nineteen

752
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: sixties can't solve, because the Cybermen were able to pilot

753
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: their planet back to Earth, where it was eventually destroyed,

754
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: which is much less of a problem in the show

755
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: where the main component is time travel. Also, the term

756
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: used to describe doctor who fans is Huvian, in case

757
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: that comes up again, No, I think, yeah, I can't

758
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: believe he could be this wrong. I think I think

759
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: you have to trust Adam here. He seems to know

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00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. I don't know how Adam could

761
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: be a doctor who fan without knowing that they're called Huvedn's.

762
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: But anyway, the other question I wanted to answer was

763
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: from the episode about the Silence Science of Highland or two.

764
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: The question asked was whether or not the Alien franchise

765
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: had ever had a face burster concerning the pseudaction flies,

766
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: because remember the Pseudactian or the Highlander fly. We talked

767
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: about It decapitates the ant, the larva grows within the

768
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: ant's head, and then it pops out of the ant's face,

769
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: and we were saying, was there ever a horror movie

770
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: or something popped out of someone's face? Specifically, was there

771
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: ever an alien and the Alien franchise that instead of

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Speaker 1: bursting out of the chest like coming out of John

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00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: Hurt's es ut, it pops out of somebody's face. I

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00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: still maintain no, I don't remember ever seeing that. I

775
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: think I would know. Well, Adam says the answer is

776
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: both yes and no. While the official franchise has not

777
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: had a chest burster burst out of somebody's face. Instead,

778
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty unauthorized sequel Alien to colon on Earth,

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00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: which I had no idea this even existence. It's a novelization.

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00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta look this up. Uh, maybe

781
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: it's a fan of Alien to on Earth did have

782
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: a scene like this. Whether this was for copyright reasons

783
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: or for pure gross out, I do not know. I

784
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: have included a link to the trailer for the film

785
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: that includes a very similar scene. Certainly, in the wake

786
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: of Alien you see a lot of needless scenes where

787
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: creatures bust out of people. Um uh, you know, specifically,

788
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Humanoids from the Deep comes to mind, is a film that,

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Speaker 1: among its various problems, one is that they were like,

790
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: we got to end it in a chest blair bursting scene,

791
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: work it into the plot, and they're like, yes, Corman,

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00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: we will. I'm only half listening to you because I'm

793
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: watching this trailer now and uh oh yeah, yeah, I

794
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: just got to a face bursting scene. This looks to

795
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: me like a alien Okay, it's called Alien to on

796
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: Earth nineteen eighty. It looks like a work of sort

797
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: of cinema italianissimo going on here. Uh, sort of like

798
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: all the Italian Jaws sequels and whatnot. Exactly. Yeah, I'm

799
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: getting that vibe. Okay, Well, I'm well, the time frame

800
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: is right, Uh yeah, I'm on board. I'll watch it. Sure.

801
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: If it was made in the eighties by Italians and

802
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: it has blood in it. Yeah, I'll probably do it.

803
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: Is that blood orange? I hope? So Okay, Uh, well,

804
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: maybe we should take another break there and then come

805
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: back and uh and do a few more and then

806
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: wrap up. Thank alright, we're back. Uh. I want to

807
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: make a take a quick moment here to talk a

808
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: little bit about another sword wielding um warrior and that

809
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: being uh the legendary Irish hero uh Ko Holland or

810
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: Ku Collen or Cocallen. We had a lot of Irish

811
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: listeners right in about this and uh uh correct us

812
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: on the pronunciation or give their two cents on the pronunciation. Um. So,

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: first of all, I want to mention that I reached

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00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: out to my friend Lynus online, who is not a

815
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: listener to the show because he sucks but he but

816
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: he is Irish and so he I asked him away,

817
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: what your how would you say this? And he said

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00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: he told me that it would be uh Collen. Granted

819
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: this wasn't much help, as it occurred after we recorded

820
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: the episode. We also heard from listener Ben in the

821
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Speaker 1: discussion module that's our Facebook discussion group stuff to Blow

822
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: your Mind discussion module, and he said, uh quote their

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Speaker 1: three dialects in Irish donegal, uh, kannamara and munster, and

824
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Speaker 1: they all vary. I've heard the second see pronounced as

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00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: a hard see and your pronunciation as well. Irish people

826
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: always disagree I'm unciation depending on where they're from. You

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Speaker 1: guys did a great job and I love the episode.

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Speaker 1: And then it was also pointed out that the Popes

829
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Speaker 1: have a song on the album Rum Saw tom Me

830
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: in the Lash, which I listened to a lot. Um

831
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: yeah years back. It just wasn't in my my head

832
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: to go back and um, you know, I didn't remember

833
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: uh that there was a poge song that mentioned him.

834
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: But in that song you hear Shane mcgallen saying more

835
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: like Kokleen Collen. Uh So if we were to go

836
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: with Shane McGowan, um, then yeah, we were incorrect in

837
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: our episode for sure. Well it sounds like they can't

838
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: even make up their own minds. Well, my interpretation is

839
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: that we were probably wrong. But if we really wanted

840
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: to like dig our heels in and say no, we

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00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about with I re pronunciation foolishly,

842
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: then we would be able to perhaps back up our

843
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: case by pointing to a particular dialect. But uh, I'm

844
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm happy to say we probably uh messed up the

845
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: pronunciation a little bit there, but it seems like everybody

846
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the episode regardless, so our apologies. Well, I'll

847
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: try to do cuculin from now on. But man, those

848
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: Irish ones are they're harder than most languages. They're mouthful,

849
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: all right. Continuing on the subject of pronunciation, we also

850
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: got quite a few communications about the productive pronunciation of

851
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: uranus a k a uranus. It's perfectly we're going from

852
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: cuculin to uranus, right, since that's exactly where the guy

853
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: bowl go went exactly goes straight into Whereon knows. Apparently

854
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: that's another way to do it. So listener Nile writes

855
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: and says, sorry, but when you went off on your

856
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: pronunciation of uranus, it reminded me of one of my

857
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: favorite jokes, which you're welcome to use. I'm sure I

858
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: heard it from someone somewhere, you know how jokes go.

859
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, why is the Starship Enterprise like a roll

860
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: of toilet paper? Because they both circle uranus looking for Klingon's.

861
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: That is that's one of the worst jokes ever. Worse

862
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: off for having heard that should we cut it out now?

863
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: We gotta keep it now sadly? Okay, Albert gets in

864
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: touch and says, hey, guys, on the topic of pronunciation,

865
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: I had an observation. I speak Japanese, which uses a

866
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: phonetic alphabet in Japanese uh uranus or uranus is. And

867
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: then he uses some Japanese characters which you would write

868
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: as uranusu, which is pronounced with all short vowels uh

869
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: short vowels. So I guess that'd be URANUSU like uranusa. Yeah,

870
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: that sounds good. Or oranassa maybe I don't know. I

871
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: guess that would be oranassa maybe I don't know. Anyway,

872
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Albert says, this got me thinking that your two ways

873
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: uranus and urinus might both be wrong. Well, it's acceptable

874
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: in English, but what does the original Greek sound like?

875
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: And then he sort of points us to the fact

876
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: that from what I can tell, it might be that

877
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: the Greek uranus or oh you are a n u

878
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: s might be pronounced something kind of like where a

879
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: no use where. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to

880
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: say that for the planet. I think I'm gonna say uranus. Yeah. Well,

881
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: how about what about the mythological entity. How if the

882
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: if if Uranus appear to you and you had to

883
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: to greet them by name, which pronunciation would you use? Again,

884
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: bearing in mind that you were dealing with an entity

885
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: from Greek mythology and that they are a a tiresome

886
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: and spiteful bunch. If I had to do that, I

887
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: think I go neither of our ways. Uh, it would

888
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: not be Uranus. It would not be Uranus. It would

889
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: be uran Us. Okay, it's probably safe and it does

890
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: sound regal enough, I think. But you're not gonna get

891
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: me to call the planet uran us. I'm sorry. Still,

892
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: we greatly appreciate the thoughts on pronunciation here. Oh, yes,

893
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: of course. All right, what have we gotten next? Drabberty?

894
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Oh let's see. We still we have a plethora of

895
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: things we could potentially read, but we are beginning to

896
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: run out of time. All right, here's another bit of

897
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: listener mail. This one comes to us from Simon. I

898
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: believe high stuff to blow your mind. Team. I'm an

899
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Australian researcher working in the north of Sweden. I discovered

900
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: your podcast a few months ago, and in that time

901
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: I've listened to an embarrassing amount. I've been a fan

902
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: of the podcast medium for a long time, but your

903
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: podcast is, without a doubt, the finest I've listened to.

904
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's super nice. Robert and Joe are the perfect host,

905
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: somehow striking the ideal balance of intelligence, humor, and approachability

906
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: no mean feat. The other thing that sets your podcast

907
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: apart is your diverse choice of topics, which are often

908
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: surprising and always fascinating. I've been telling everyone I can

909
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: to give it an invention a listen. Well, you're two kinds, Simon,

910
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. This brings me to an idea for

911
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: a potential episode. Having moved around a lot, I've noticed

912
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: a peculiar side to many of the cultures I've come across,

913
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: the presence of folkloric household spirits. Growing up, my Welsh

914
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: mother would tell my brothers and I about the boab Buck,

915
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: a generally benevolent spirit that tended the home while we

916
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: all slept. If treated with respect and occasionally given a

917
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: bowl of milk or some bread and honey, the bow

918
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: would continue its role as a kindly steward of the house.

919
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: If disrespected or neglected, the Bobbach could take on a

920
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: more ambivalent or a mischievous role. The archetype can be

921
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: found repeated in many cultures. In England and Scotland, it

922
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: is known as the brownie or the hob in Ireland,

923
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: the puka in Germany, the cobalt in Denmark, the nie

924
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: s in Spain, the Duinde in France, the lutin, and

925
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: here in Sweden the tom tape. It's obviously a Western

926
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: European bias here, likely stemming from a common ancestor spirit

927
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: such as the Laures of ancient Rome, but there are

928
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: certainly analogs in African and Eastern cultures. There are also

929
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: a number of great examples of these creatures in literature

930
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: and films, such as Puck from Amid Some of the

931
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: Night's Dream and the character of Hinselman from American Gods,

932
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: and even the Gremlins from the nineteen eighties could be

933
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: linked to this concept. Having listened to your previous episodes

934
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: on folklore, particularly Jenny Green Teeth and The Willow of

935
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: the Wisp, I believe your team could do an amazing

936
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: job of dealing with the many facets of these creatures

937
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: and beliefs. Why do some cultures have them and some not?

938
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Why do they What do they say about is how

939
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: did some of these pagan concepts survive Christianity and formalized

940
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: religion and modernization while others were lost though not as

941
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: immediate as other folk laric entities where wolves, vampires, etcetera.

942
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: There's something so enigmatic and disturbing about the idea of

943
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: creatures lurking in the peripheries of our homes. Best regards

944
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: from Snowy, Sweden, and thanks again for the wonderful podcast. Well,

945
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: thank you, Simon. I think that's a great idea for

946
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: an episode to explore. Yeah, totally, And you know, I'm

947
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: immediately reminded that there there are variations of this that

948
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: you see in uh in Chinese mythology. I mean, the

949
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: most obvious being like that of like of of certainly

950
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: of of a household spirit or god, you know, the

951
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: kitchen god. But you do see this kind of thing echoed.

952
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: I think in a lot of different mythologies and folklore's

953
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: the idea that there are there are not only the

954
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: strange entities and spirits of the woods and the waste,

955
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: but also of the immediate domicile. I can absolutely see

956
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: how beliefs like this are especially likely to survive the

957
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: sort of devastating sweep of an organized religion that conquers

958
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, you might see, like Christianity conquers Europe

959
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: and it largely gets rid of organized pagan religion, and

960
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: yet pagan beliefs that are sort of private and concerned

961
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: with with the secret parts of life remain. Does that

962
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: make sense? Oh? Absolutely, and especially if there's not you know,

963
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: something in the new religion that really scratches the same itch.

964
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's not going to it's not going to

965
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: satisfy the you know this particular you know, dark or

966
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: just unstated corner of everyday experience. In fact, I remember

967
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: reading stories when I visited Iceland a few years ago.

968
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: We were learning about the history of Iceland and they're

969
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: they're like National Museum and Ricky vic And one of

970
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: the one of the things I remember reading about there

971
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: and some of their exhibits was the Christianization of Iceland.

972
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: So they I think, I don't remember which they were under,

973
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: different like imperial powers from northern Europe at different times,

974
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: under like Denmark or Norway or Sweden, I guess, but

975
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: at some point the Christianization impulse came from abroad and

976
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, Iceland, you've got to become Christians now.

977
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: So the leaders of their clans got together and they

978
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: essentially negotiated a compromise. And the negotiated compromise was that

979
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: they would be Christians and do Christian worship in public

980
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: as long as they could still keep doing their pagan

981
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: practices in private at home. Interesting, well, that's a great

982
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: way for the your more minor household spirits to survive

983
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: the change, all right. So we've got another message here.

984
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: This comes to us in response to our episode about

985
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: tunneling underground. This is from our listener Lee. Lee writes,

986
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: greetings from Australia. I'm guessing you're going to get a

987
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: lot of these because we were taught this in school.

988
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: Just following up regarding your episode about tunnelers in Cooper Petty.

989
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm saying that right, but uh

990
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: c O O B E R P E d Y,

991
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: South Australia, about eight hundred kilometers north of the state's capital, Adelaide.

992
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: People live underground, but it is a fairly recent development.

993
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: The community did begin as one of the largest opal

994
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: mining communities in the world. However, people began living underground

995
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: in dugouts because the heat and the painted desert can

996
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: be extreme over thirty degrees celsius and dry for six

997
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: months of the year and in winter it will usually

998
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: be in the twenties. They also didn't have to pay

999
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: or seek permission to extend their houses, and it's relatively

1000
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: cheap and quick to get materials when you are an

1001
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: independent miner to build a house underground. Underground in Cooper Petty,

1002
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: the temperature is a constant twenty six. I guess that's

1003
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: also celsius, which is quite nice and cool. However, they

1004
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: are not necessarily caves or underground. They also build mounds

1005
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: and live within them like in the picture, and these

1006
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: are the most common and Lee attaches a picture. Noticeably,

1007
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: this town is only about four hundred kilometers north of Woomera,

1008
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: the old rocket base in the middle of nowhere, with

1009
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: air conditioning and modern transport. Uh and uh. Lisa's mail

1010
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: was delivered by camel to Alice Springs till the nineteen sixties. UH.

1011
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: It is easier to build houses above ground, but these

1012
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: houses are staple and a tourist attraction, particularly when teaching

1013
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: students about using resources for practicality. It's also interesting to

1014
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: hear about Neanderthals going underground. Indigenous Australians of multiple cultures

1015
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: would not, and did not, as a general rule, enter

1016
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: deep caves where it was dark for extended periods of time,

1017
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: whether lava tubes or limestone. Predominantly we only find geological

1018
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: history or animal remains in these environments, with human artifacts

1019
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: found in shallow caves on or near cave entrances, but

1020
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 1: it would still be freaky sleeping near a deep cave

1021
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: system when you were unsure what was behind you in

1022
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: the dark. The Iwamian people, for example, at and around

1023
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: the Dara lava tubes in northeast Queensland, refused to enter

1024
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: the caves or drink water from them. They believe that

1025
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: the caves would curse them and if they didn't die

1026
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: in there, corditya which is a boogeyman think birds in

1027
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: the village style well would come and get them. Scientifically,

1028
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 1: the caves actually fill with dangerous levels of gas. Can't

1029
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: remember which one, and this creates an unhealthy environment. The

1030
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: Cutter Cut a limestone caves in Catherine, Northern Territory, whilst

1031
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: seeing an experienced by the jaw Win and mentioned in

1032
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: their dreaming was not widely used as climbing in and

1033
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: out of a dark cave where you can't actually see

1034
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: something would be very annoying and not useful for everyday life.

1035
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: Kind regards Lee. Oh, excellent, I love hearing about that. Yeah,

1036
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: I remember the this particular Australian town came up in

1037
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: some of our our research, but we ended up not

1038
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: really uh you know, pulling on that thread. So it's

1039
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: it's great to hear it broken down a little bit

1040
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: by a native Australia. All right, here's we're getting down

1041
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: through the end here, but here just a few more.

1042
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: This one comes to us from Adam. Hey, guys, I'm

1043
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: listening to the episode on the white spotted puffer fish

1044
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: and you men and that other animals like bower birds

1045
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: have elaborate behaviors or physical characteristics purely for fitness demonstration

1046
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: to attract mates. However, there is an emerging hypothesis that

1047
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: these actually evolved because of female esthetic preferences, with no

1048
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: relationship or even a negative relationship with fitness. This was

1049
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: originally proposed by Charles Darwin, but fell out a favor

1050
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: until recently. It is not the consensus idea for selection

1051
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: of these characteristics, but it is gaining an acceptance. There's

1052
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: also a link to a full text article on pub

1053
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: med Central below. This topic could be worth a mention

1054
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: during listener mail or as an episode keep up the

1055
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: great work, Adam ps all hail the great basilisk just

1056
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: in case, and then he included a link for us

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Speaker 1: to check out. Well, that's a good point, Adam. I

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Speaker 1: I don't remember us saying that we knew it was

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Speaker 1: purely for fitness demonstration as opposed to so fitness demonstration.

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Speaker 1: I guess would be either way, you are trying to

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Speaker 1: appeal to mates by showing off a particular characteristic. And

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Speaker 1: I guess the debate would be, is the characteristic in

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Speaker 1: in biology what's known as like an on a signal,

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Speaker 1: Does it like actually signal fitness in the way that

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00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: it might be perceived to versus is it just purely

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Speaker 1: a decoration? Is it something that serves no actual purpose,

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Speaker 1: doesn't actually show whether or not you're fit in some

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Speaker 1: other way like free of parasites, are healthy or something

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Speaker 1: like that and whatever we actually said in the episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Adam's right. We we don't always know the

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Speaker 1: difference there. Sometimes there might be Uh, might be ways

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Speaker 1: in which a signal is useful in ways we don't realize,

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Speaker 1: or or use less in ways we don't realize. All right, Joe,

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Speaker 1: I think we only have time for one more here,

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Speaker 1: because Carney has has gone full on Highlander three and

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Speaker 1: is now in Mario Van People's mod Oh, so you've

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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta gotta pick one and then and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to call it. Well, it looks like

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Speaker 1: this is from our listener Aaron, regarding the Jumping Fish

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Speaker 1: episode that we re aired recently as a as a

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Speaker 1: Vault episode on Saturday. Aaron says, Howdy, been listening to

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Speaker 1: the podcast for a month and a half. Now I

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00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: was listening to one from the vault just now, and

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Speaker 1: you discuss whether or not the Kendru has swam up

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Speaker 1: a person's urethra or remember in the Jumping Fish episode,

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Speaker 1: that's where we talked about this urban legend or possible

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00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: urban legend, that this Amazonian fish called the Candru can

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00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: get into men's your e throws by swimming up the

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Speaker 1: stream of a man's urine as he peas into the river.

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Speaker 1: We said that, you know, it might actually be able

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Speaker 1: to get get in there. We don't know, but it's

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00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: definitely not going to be swimming up a stream of

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Speaker 1: urine through the air. Continuing with Aaron's email, Aaron says,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Wade actually interviews a victim and doctor that removed

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Speaker 1: the fish in one episode of River Monsters. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a show about scary fish. It is, Yes, I've

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00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: seen it before. It pretty good. Uh, there was actual

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Speaker 1: video of them removing the fish. Regardless of whether or

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Speaker 1: not the mode of the fish inserting itself happened, it

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Speaker 1: appears as though it did happen. Indeed, it is rare,

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Speaker 1: but it can happen if you're to believe the story.

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Speaker 1: If you watch season one, episode fit, episode Fish, episode six,

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Speaker 1: you will see that the canderu is quite a scary

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Speaker 1: little fish. Well, okay, I still don't believe they can

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Speaker 1: swim up through the air through a stream of urine.

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Speaker 1: But I you know, if there's a candio around and

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00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: you've got to your ether, I'd say, don't put it

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00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: in there. Don't let it get in there. Always good advice.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, it looks like Carney has finally calmed down.

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Speaker 1: It looks like his his his infection has run its course,

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00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: he has reached the quickening state and is now one again.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have close out this episode. We think

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