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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you

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Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium Here in the Hyunday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermayer with you with John Harris. You're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from Deep Cito, also as Johnny and Deep. After we're

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Speaker 1: done with Nick Kasserio in our conversation. They took some

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Speaker 1: questions from fans on our digital show on all the

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Speaker 1: different platforms, and later on Mike Renner Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: Deepest Cito catches up with him about the draft. But

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Speaker 1: let's start out with the general manager, Nick Kasserio and

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Speaker 1: Johnny and I visited with him and immediately I tried

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Speaker 1: to convince him to do a mock draft with us,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't biting. We're gonna do a mock draft here, Johnson. First,

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Speaker 1: I'll go second, you go third. That'll be the order.

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Speaker 1: We did this during the season once. That was the

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Speaker 1: only mock draft we can do. That was fun and

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Speaker 1: you actually got some huge thumbs up on that. By

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Speaker 1: the wow I did surprising. Keep in mind, obviously the

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Speaker 1: Texans were going for a few years, so there were

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of Cowboys fans in this area

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Speaker 1: and have been in for a long time, So you're

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Speaker 1: Pickar Roger Staubach. You played two different crowd than you

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Speaker 1: thought you were. They loved that, Roger stauba Pick loved it,

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Speaker 1: an old school with it. It was good. It was good. Nick,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned during your press conference about eighty to one

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Speaker 1: hundred players whatever the number is, that are draftable for

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. I mean that would mean there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys you can't draft, and what happens

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Speaker 1: with that information? You must track those players and would

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Speaker 1: they have worked out, would they not have worked out?

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Speaker 1: They might be available as free agents in the future

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Speaker 1: at some point. No, that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: I think, really what you try to do, it's really

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Speaker 1: about positioning more than anything else. And then when you

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Speaker 1: take the total profile of the player, you're saying you're

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Speaker 1: either comfortable with where we've graded him at that level

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Speaker 1: or in the end, you know what, there's just too much.

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Speaker 1: We think we're going to have better alternatives, So let's

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Speaker 1: focus our time and resources on that group of players.

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Speaker 1: So i'd say, right wrong or indifferent, we're not, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're maybe more inclined to eliminate players as opposed to

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Speaker 1: let's put a bunch of players up there and you're

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Speaker 1: trying to sort it out. You know, then you have

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Speaker 1: more conviction on those players, and you hope, you know,

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Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you're as right as possible.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean you don't like the player. It

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Speaker 1: just means, once you've gone through from the beginning to

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Speaker 1: the end, in the end, this is our feeling of

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Speaker 1: the player. Okay, you know what, we're gonna move him,

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Speaker 1: move on from him. But to your point, Mark, I

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Speaker 1: would say knowing the player and having done that work

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Speaker 1: is certainly beneficial so that if he does come up

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Speaker 1: at some point, whether he's on the waiver wire, he's released,

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Speaker 1: he's a free agent, it's all relevant information. And maybe

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Speaker 1: there's things that have changed from now to two years later,

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Speaker 1: three years later, four years later. So you might be

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Speaker 1: eliminating him for now, but that same player, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: you know, might show up. I'll just I'll give you

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Speaker 1: an example. So going back to Lawrence Guy is a

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Speaker 1: really good example. So Lawrence Guy came out from Arizona

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Speaker 1: State underclassman one, drafted and you know, at the time,

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Speaker 1: started different points. He started his careers in different points,

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Speaker 1: kind of bounce around a little bit. San Diego had

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Speaker 1: say one of their better players, and then we signed

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Speaker 1: him in free agency whatever year that was. And from

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Speaker 1: time that we signed him, you're talking about a totally

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Speaker 1: different player. He you know, he had matured. He was

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Speaker 1: most dependable players. So if you just wrote the player

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Speaker 1: that's a credit to the player and his growth and

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Speaker 1: development is maturation and part of our responsibilities to still

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Speaker 1: do our homework on a player when he is in

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Speaker 1: other buildings. Let's make sure you know what the picture

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Speaker 1: that maybe was painted initially is that different now? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what, in the end, he might be a

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Speaker 1: one illustration. But going back to your point, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's really maybe for now, but at some point that

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Speaker 1: This year, you sort of get back to the i'll

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Speaker 1: call it the information gathering process as normal. How did

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Speaker 1: the fact that you had to combine, you had pro days,

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Speaker 1: you had thirty visits, you had those opportunities kind of

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Speaker 1: gathering for unique in this process? Sure, there's just more

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Speaker 1: a way to gather information. But this is just more

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Speaker 1: see different groups of players or to see a player

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Speaker 1: maybe do something. You know what, Maybe it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit better than I thought it was on tape. Maybe

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Speaker 1: improved his speed and improved his explosiveness, and then some

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Speaker 1: of the drill work. You know, when he had the

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Speaker 1: And then you just go back and say, all right,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let me go Let's go back and

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Speaker 1: take another look. So that's probably the biggest difference. John.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I think that you started to see

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Speaker 1: the combine if they feel like they made a good

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Speaker 1: of you know, it wasn't as important for them, and

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Speaker 1: for that. So you don't want to penalize for them

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Speaker 1: of his pro day with the individual choice. He made

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Speaker 1: problem with that. So I think it just gave you

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Speaker 1: evaluating that part of it? Because maybe your eyes deceived you,

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Speaker 1: maybe not. How do you evaluate that? Great question there

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Speaker 1: is there's some players that time fast and play fast.

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Speaker 1: see maybe some of their high speed running. So how

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Speaker 1: how much high speed running they do? They're miles per hour.

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Speaker 1: So let's say you have a player, maybe he ran

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Speaker 1: back and look at some previous players and maybe in

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Speaker 1: he's fast. If a player maybe ransow, he may be

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Speaker 1: him slow. So it's it's a it's a great point. Mark.

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Speaker 1: You just have to kind of weigh out, all right,

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Speaker 1: what are we really getting? But you know fat, is

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Speaker 1: he fast as he fasts? He four to eight? Do

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Speaker 1: you see that on tape? And there's been plenty of

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Speaker 1: examples and runs four to eight. John, I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: seen this. He runs four to eight. You're like, wait

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? So you just have to weigh

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Speaker 1: make an accurate decision. You've been in a league for

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Speaker 1: a little over twenty years. Have you ever been a

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Speaker 1: situation where you've drafted three or higher? It's just the

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Speaker 1: is this the highest you've ever you've ever drafted? And

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm sure it didn't change your process,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that you're drafting within the first forty

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Speaker 1: used to. Yeah, I think it's just you have to

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Speaker 1: evaluate essentially everybody. It's just different pool players that you

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Speaker 1: I think Bill, you know, they drafted Seymour forgive or

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Speaker 1: where he won, he was the highest pick, and then

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Speaker 1: whatever year Mayo came out. I think we were seventh

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Speaker 1: just you have to know essentially everybody. You have to

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Speaker 1: know top to bottom. Whereas last year maybe there's fifty

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Speaker 1: five sixty players will be eliminated. This year it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. I mean, really got to go one

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Speaker 1: through you know, one fifty, two hundred hover many it is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I mean I've seen I can't remember who was

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Speaker 1: maybe a Belchick. I remember walking up to maybe Bradley

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Speaker 1: Chubb and he's like, you're a heck of a player,

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Speaker 1: we have no chance of drafting you. And I think

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Speaker 1: it Bradley went fourth overall, fourth overall, and I think

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Speaker 1: you guys were down in the twenties or something at

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Speaker 1: that point. Do you do that? Do you look at it?

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Speaker 1: And obviously it's different this year, but you go, we

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Speaker 1: have a chance for these guys. Do you do your

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Speaker 1: homework because you told us you study everybody, look at everybody,

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Speaker 1: But do you put that much time because you know

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Speaker 1: they're not getting you know, it's a good point down.

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Speaker 1: So the chubbed example is a good example because I

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Speaker 1: think that year they had it was bj Hill, it

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Speaker 1: was Bradley, and I want to say Cantavious Street might

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Speaker 1: have been part of that group. So I'd say the

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Speaker 1: benefit of that workout is, Okay, you get to see

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Speaker 1: all those players work out live. And then let's take Chubb.

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Speaker 1: Chubb is a really good player. Is a good player? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know you're not going to draft that player, but

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Speaker 1: all right, Chubb his workout live maybe relative to another

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Speaker 1: opportunity to draft right later, what's the difference is there

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Speaker 1: as big of a gap? Is Chubb do something better

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Speaker 1: than the other player? So really what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: do is just get a barometer, an overall understanding of

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Speaker 1: really Wrex in terms of players that really made a

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Speaker 1: contribution last season, you know a lot of those players

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Speaker 1: didn't really have too many snapped at least for the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. So you know, Scotty unfortunately he was limited

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Speaker 1: last year. It was injured, but you know, he's showed

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Speaker 1: some things in the preseason. Marlin's been a productive player

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Speaker 1: at different points, so he has an opportunity here in

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Speaker 1: front of him. Dare has been i'd say a pretty

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Speaker 1: consistent player in Jacksonville. It's had a good role in

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Speaker 1: the kicking game. You know, Royce, you know, had small opportunities,

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Speaker 1: limited opportunities last year. But you know, there's really not

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Speaker 1: a whole dearth of opportunities. But I would say it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a group that they all have varying degrees

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Speaker 1: of experience playing. And even Jett Anderson, who kind of

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Speaker 1: came to us late in the offseason, excuming during the

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Speaker 1: season last year in the practice squad, he's made a

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Speaker 1: lot of progress, i'd say in terms of his strength

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Speaker 1: and development from January till now. So it's an interesting group.

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Speaker 1: I think once we get on the field a little bit,

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Speaker 1: it'll start to crystallize a little bit more. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: if there's an opportunity for us to add to that group,

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Speaker 1: we will. If is not, you know, I think we'd

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Speaker 1: be able to go out there and be able to

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Speaker 1: function with the group that we have here in the building.

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Speaker 1: All right, Maria wants to know what excites you about

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Speaker 1: a Pep Hamilton offense. Yeah, I think Pep's had a

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Speaker 1: lot of success through the years, you being able to

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Speaker 1: run the football and being able to get the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: to play well. So I think the biggest thing probably

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Speaker 1: for our group is just going to be some of

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Speaker 1: the terminology and it's just how we call plays and

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Speaker 1: some of those types of things. So, but Pep's a

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Speaker 1: good coach. He's a lot of experience. He's had a

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Speaker 1: lot of I would say good experiences with the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: He really teaches that position, the details and the mechanics

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Speaker 1: of it now to be able to project that over

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Speaker 1: the entire group. But I think, you know, we want

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Speaker 1: to be able to run the football. We want to

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Speaker 1: be able to play physical. So I think those are

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Speaker 1: some things that we're going to try to emphasize. And

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Speaker 1: it's a collective effort. It's not going to be just

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line. It's not gonna be about the

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Speaker 1: tight ends and running backs. It's all. Everybody's going to

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Speaker 1: be involved, even the receivers just some degree. So I

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Speaker 1: think Pep. Pep's excited about the opportunity. I think the

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Speaker 1: one thing you notice is just the way he works

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Speaker 1: with the staff. It's really kind of cool. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a very collaborative effort. He respects the coaches. A

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Speaker 1: lot of those coaches have worked with him. He trusts them,

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Speaker 1: they trust him in turn, so that cares a lot

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Speaker 1: of weight. And then you know, when you transfer that

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Speaker 1: to the players, the players see that. So ultimately it's

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Speaker 1: about results and offenses being able to move football and

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Speaker 1: score points. So, I mean, ultimately that's going to be

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Speaker 1: the most important thing for us. Have you improved your

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Speaker 1: mechanics on our Pep, I haven't thrown that. This is

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Speaker 1: from Joey Downtown very simply put, who you're going to draft? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a good question. We got this question more than

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Speaker 1: any other. You know, it's a fair question. I think

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Speaker 1: we you know, we'll know here, you know, in another

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Speaker 1: week or so. But I think, you know, we have

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Speaker 1: a list of players that we feel comfortable drafting it

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Speaker 1: at number three. Um, and I think you assuming we

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Speaker 1: picked there, which I think there's a good chance we're

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Speaker 1: going to. So just try to get, you know, a

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Speaker 1: good player that we think is going to come in

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Speaker 1: here and help our team. It's not about, you know,

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Speaker 1: one player is not going to solve our problems. It's

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Speaker 1: just stacking them up as we go. So, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've had an opportunity value a lot of players. We

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Speaker 1: had a lot of dialogue and discussions internally with the staff,

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Speaker 1: with the scouting staff, with the coaching staff. I think

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Speaker 1: we've kind of narrowed down that pool of players who

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Speaker 1: we feel comfortable with. So ultimately we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: make a decision and we'll pick at player and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna move you know, we're gonna move forward, all right.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to see who those players might be, and

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Speaker 1: we don't really have to wait too much longer in

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Speaker 1: one week, all right, there's some stuff from our digital

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Speaker 1: TV show that we ran around the press conference that

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Speaker 1: Nick Casserio did this week regarding the NFL Draft. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's April twenty eighth, Miller Outdoor Theater. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: out there live, broadcasting on radio, will be doing a

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Speaker 1: pre show on digital television. Of course. You can follow

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Speaker 1: the draft on NFL Network as well, and on all

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Speaker 1: the Texans social media digital media platforms, and that digital

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Speaker 1: TV show we did around the press conference a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. We're gonna be doing a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: of that this coming season. You can get it on

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Speaker 1: all the streaming platforms, I'm kidding about that. You can

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Speaker 1: get it on Twitter, Facebook, you can get it on

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Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot com and the Texans app and YouTube live.

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Speaker 1: Is that enough for you? My gosh, how many streaming

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Speaker 1: services do you have at home? I've got way too

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Speaker 1: many already. I finally started watching Ted Lasso because I

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Speaker 1: gave in and got Apple TV. I mean, I had

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Speaker 1: everything else and I had other shows to catch up on. Priorities.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of priorities, every team has a priority to get

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Speaker 1: their act together before Thursday start of the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: and to analyze things further. Mike Renner of Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: Interesting guy. He joins us next as dep City who

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Speaker 1: sits down with him, And it's happening right here on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Great to have you listening on your way

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Speaker 1: home or wherever you are going this Friday night Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: It is a wonderful time of year with the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft coming up in less than a week. One week

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Speaker 1: from tonight, we'll be picking. At this point, we will

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Speaker 1: be in to the second round of the draft. The

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Speaker 1: Texans will have more players. Of course they're starting Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: You know the rest of the story. Picks three thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Nick Casserio pretty clear during his press conference this week

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Speaker 1: that it looks like they're gonna pick at three, that

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Speaker 1: there won't be a trade at three or is that

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Speaker 1: a smoke screen? Look, you never know until you know,

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Speaker 1: right And then at thirteen, I guess anything could happen.

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Speaker 1: I think anything could happen at any time. Anyway, there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of certainty with the top overall pick,

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Speaker 1: even with the Texans back when they've had the top

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Speaker 1: overall pick. Look, year one, it was obvious it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be David Carr. When they had the top overall

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Speaker 1: pick in two thousand and six, it was obvious it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be Reggie Bush. But wait a minute, they

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Speaker 1: picked Mario Williams and we did not know that until

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Speaker 1: Friday night before round one. In twenty fourteen, when they

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Speaker 1: had the top overall pick, it was Jadeveon Clowney, and

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Speaker 1: we pretty much assumed it was going to be although

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Speaker 1: you never know, somebody might have tried tried to trade up,

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Speaker 1: and nobody did that we know about. Nobody did successfully obviously,

557
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Speaker 1: but remember Blake Bortles went third in that draft. And

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Speaker 1: I wrote about this this week that there were mocks

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Speaker 1: out there and this is fun. By the way, you

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Speaker 1: want to have some entertainment this weekend. Google mocked drafts

561
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Speaker 1: of years gone by. If you just google pick a year,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen mock draft, and several of them will come up,

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Speaker 1: and they are intact, and you could see how wrong

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Speaker 1: people were about certain things, Like in twenty fourteen, I

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Speaker 1: saw a mock that had Teddy Bridgewater drafted by the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars at three. Right after him, Johnny Manziel went to

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Speaker 1: the Browns at four. We all know the Browns took Manziel.

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Speaker 1: Later it didn't work out, and obviously Bordles had a

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Speaker 1: little bit of success with the Jaguars, but you can

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Speaker 1: hardly call that a success. That selection of Bartles at

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Speaker 1: number three overall, and the mock drafts of years gone

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Speaker 1: by just peppered with entertaining selections. And boy, it's a

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Speaker 1: good talk radio cheat sheet because you can talk about

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Speaker 1: what might have been. I think Sean Pendergast has to

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Speaker 1: get all over this. All right, let's get it to

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Speaker 1: this now. Now. John Harris is not on this segment,

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Speaker 1: and it's a good thing because we have another draft

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Speaker 1: analyst on. I feel kind of dirty, Okay, we're inviting

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Speaker 1: somebody else into the house to analyze the draft. We've

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Speaker 1: got one of the best experts of the country and Johnny,

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Speaker 1: but it's always good to get another perspective, right, It's

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Speaker 1: like a second opinion on a medical issue. Boy, I

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Speaker 1: feel worse even describing it that way. Sorry, Johnny. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Dpcity who got up with Mike Renner, who is the

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Speaker 1: draft analyst for Pro Football Focus. So this is a

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Speaker 1: guy who has studied a lot, knows a lot. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear what he has to say about this draft. As Depcity,

588
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Speaker 1: who catches up with him in the Deep Slant. Mike,

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Speaker 1: welcome in. I haven't talked to you in a few years,

590
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Speaker 1: but I'm sure this is probably your favorite ten a year.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. April is my month from pretty

592
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Speaker 1: much the start to the end. I am watching draft prospects,

593
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Speaker 1: following this stuff, and there's nothing else I'd rather be doing.

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Speaker 1: I think for draft analysts like yourself, the draft weekend

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Speaker 1: is probably like the Super Bowl, Christmas, and your birthday

596
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: all wrapped into one in a three day period. So

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Speaker 1: how do you consume the draft? Where are you watching it?

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Speaker 1: And how are you sort of following along and seeing

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Speaker 1: where all these picks land. Well, it's tough because we

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Speaker 1: do a live show, and so you kind of want

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Speaker 1: to have a reaction, Like you see a pick and

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Speaker 1: you want to have a reaction. We also want to

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Speaker 1: be professional. You can't just like trash these guys and say, wow,

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Speaker 1: that was an awful selection by them. So we have

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Speaker 1: a live show that we'll be doing the three days

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Speaker 1: here at PFF. All right, So the Texans have eleven

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Speaker 1: picks in this year's draft, which seems like a cornucopia

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Speaker 1: of picks considering what they've had the last few years.

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Speaker 1: What are your overall impressions of this year's draft class, Like,

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Speaker 1: what have you thought about the prospects and the talent

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Speaker 1: level and how it's sort of distributed. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a deep class. I don't think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: elite players though, So at number three overall where they're selecting,

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Speaker 1: they may not be getting a slam dunk, home run,

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Speaker 1: surefire thing like we've seen, you know, like a Joey

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Speaker 1: Bosa who goes number three overall. Like, they may not

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Speaker 1: be getting a player like that in this draft, but

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Speaker 1: once you get to the second round into the third round,

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Speaker 1: you may be getting guys who other years had first

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Speaker 1: round grades in the third round, other years had second

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Speaker 1: round grade. So I do think it's deep in that regard,

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Speaker 1: but just doesn't have the elite players at the top

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Speaker 1: that maybe we've seen in years past. All Right, that's

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Speaker 1: interesting that you say that you yourself have Aiden Hutchinson

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Speaker 1: out of Michigan as the number one prospect overall. What

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Speaker 1: makes him the top prospect? And should he fold number three?

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Speaker 1: Is that a guy that he would lean an end draft?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd run in the car for Aiden Hutchinson

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Speaker 1: and I think the Jaguars would be crazy to pass

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Speaker 1: on Daden Hutchinson. And despite the fact that maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: they've drafted two defensive ends in the past three years,

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Speaker 1: so in the first round. But he's that good because one,

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Speaker 1: on the football field, no one could touch him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you watched him at all this past season, every

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Speaker 1: single game he dominated snap one to the last snap

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Speaker 1: of the game. He brings it. And two, he has

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Speaker 1: that sort of mentality that you want when you're drafted,

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Speaker 1: a guide towards the top of the draft, Like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't drink, doesn't drink caffeine. He's a guy who is

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Speaker 1: from you know, from the day one till the last

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Speaker 1: day he leaves your building. He is going to set

642
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: the tone, going to be a leader for you. And

643
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: then he's a heck of an athlete. I think he's

644
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: gotten underrated in that regard. His three cone six seven

645
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: four three cone is insane for a guy that size,

646
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: almost identical to von Miller, and he's got twenty five

647
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: pounds on von Miller coming out. So he is one

648
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: heck of an athlete off the edge to where he's

649
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: just a very safe pick, you know, at the top

650
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: of the draft. You don't want to whiff. You don't

651
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: want a guy that's the bust that you're going to

652
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: be talking about twenty years later on a show talking

653
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: about all time bust. You want a guy that's going

654
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: to make an impact on your football team. And to me,

655
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: that's eight Hunchinson. All right. So if we just look

656
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: at positions when you've got two picks in the first round,

657
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: like the Texans do, which I don't. I mean since

658
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: I've worked for the Texans, they've never had that. Usually

659
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: they don't have a first round pick. So you've got

660
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: three and you've got thirteen. What's your strategy position wise?

661
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's deep and pass rushers or edge rushers,

662
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: is that a position you wait on or is that

663
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: a position that's really elite at the top. I mean,

664
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: walk through the three and thirteen picks, like how you

665
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: attack it based on position. So for the Texans, they're

666
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: in a sort of with a roster where they need

667
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: to attack valuable positions, you know, offensive tackle, wide receiver,

668
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: defensive end. Obviously quarterback that's probably off the table this

669
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: year with what they saw FENM David Smiths last year.

670
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: But like positions where if you draft them, you're paying

671
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: them less than what you'd be paying free agents. So

672
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: in this year's class, looking at positions like that, and

673
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: it's what I said, I think they should attack because

674
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: they just don't have a ton of talent on that roster.

675
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be drafting on the three overall if you

676
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: did is offensive tackle. It is top heavy. There are

677
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: about three or four guys that you want as top

678
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: ten picks, and then there probably aren't any of the

679
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: rest of the draft. So if I'm drafting for the

680
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Texans number three overall, I'm looking offensive tackle because it's

681
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: a position that pretty much everyone in the NFL needs,

682
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: and there's just not a lot of them in this draft,

683
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: but there are some good ones towards the top. So

684
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking offensive tackle early with that number three overall pick,

685
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: because then you can wait on that pass rusher, wait

686
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: on that wide receiver if that's where you want to

687
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: go to pick number thirteen, because those are a little

688
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: bit deeper positions. They different between someone like Cavon Thibadeau

689
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: or Trayvon Walker, who may go in the top five,

690
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: and someone like Jermaine Johnson, the floor State edge rusher,

691
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: who may go more in the teens. Isn't that big

692
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: in my opinion, So you can wait on that position

693
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: to pick thirteen because I think edge is the deepest

694
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: position in the draft class. So i'd lean offensive tackle

695
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: pick three, someone like Ikeyakwanu Evan Neil, and then once

696
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: pick thirteen rolls around, that's when the wide receiver class,

697
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: maybe someone like Jamison Williams out of Alabama, that's when

698
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: that starts to become more attractive. Or the edge class where,

699
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: like I said, Jermaine Johnson, George carloftis from Purdue. There's

700
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: names there that could be productive. And we'll go in

701
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: the middle of the first round. All right, You mentioned

702
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Davis Mills, so that's one position of the Texans. They

703
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: probably don't need to address it in the first round.

704
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: But what about the teams that do need to address

705
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: quarterback with that first round pick. I mean, we saw

706
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: the Saints and the Eagles already making some moves to

707
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: sort of get some draft capital. Do you see a

708
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: team that really needs to move up and take that

709
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: number three spot. Who who might be a player that's

710
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: worth doing that for. I think if anyone's moving up

711
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: and making a big play in this draft class, it's

712
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: for someone like Malik Willis out of liberty, and it's

713
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: because of what he could be. And you've looked at

714
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback position around the NFL. It's not the guys

715
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: who can play adequately. It's not the Teddy Bridgewaters of

716
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: the world, the Andy Dalton's of the world that are

717
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: getting big money that are leading these teams to the playoffs,

718
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: they're leading to consistent year on year success. It is

719
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: the guys who can turn an offense into an elite

720
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: offense all by themselves, that have the tools, the physical

721
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: ability to open up the playbook for offensive coordinators in

722
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: the NFL a day, and that's Malik Willis. He has

723
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: the strong's arm of anyone in this draft class. He's

724
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: the best runner of anyone in this draft class, and

725
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: he will when he hits the ground from day one

726
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL, be a tier one in terms of

727
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: arm strength and in terms of rushing ability, right up

728
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: there with guys like Kyler Merlinmar Jackson in terms of

729
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: what he can bring on the ground. So that's what

730
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: teams are chasing at that position. So if he's asking

731
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: HI about a team that's gonna like the Saints maybe

732
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: give up two first rounders to you to move up

733
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: to number three overall. It's going to be for guy

734
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: like that. It's not going to be, in my opinion,

735
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: for a guy like Kenny pick It out of Pittsburgh

736
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: who's not that tool but just plays the quarterback position

737
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: very well. It's very skilled. I think those guys are

738
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: getting devalued in the draft, as we even saw last

739
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: year with Mac Jones, who went to fifteen overall, four

740
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: guys draft ahead of him, and he comes to the

741
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: NFL obviously plays well, but I think teams are still

742
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: chasing that higher end when given up best our draft capital.

743
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: So that's a guy. If someone is going to trade

744
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: for number three overall pick that, I think it would

745
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: be all right. Texans fans are really intrigued by the

746
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: running back position. The Texans have struggled to run the

747
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: ball in recent years, and they really don't have any

748
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: running backs on the roster. They resigned Rex Burkhead at

749
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: the end of the season. They've got a few young guys,

750
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: but love Smith has talked about wanting a three down back,

751
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: which is maybe a luxury the Texans haven't had in

752
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: recent years. They've done running back by committee. So with

753
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: that being said, what is a good pick for the

754
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: Texans win might be around that they target running back

755
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: should they do so, And who are some of the

756
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: guys that you think might be a good fit with

757
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: that roster as it stands right now, how kind of

758
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: far away they are in terms of competing and being

759
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: in play in the AFC. I'm not really going to

760
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: advocate for drafting running back in this class before like

761
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: the fourth round, just because you can find starters of

762
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: other positions you need to fill out that roster, and

763
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: running back, as we've seen across the NFL, it's just

764
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: all too often when you draft them, they're not making

765
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: it to their second contract. They're not making the past

766
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: four or five years in the NFL with their usefulness.

767
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: So not the greatest year to draft the running back

768
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: position in my opinion. There's two actual three down running

769
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: backs in this class, and Kenneth Walker from Michigan State

770
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: Breeze Half from Iowa State. I expect both of those

771
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: guys to be off the board by probably picked fifty,

772
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: probably somewhere at least aren't going to make it out

773
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: of the second round. So at that point I don't

774
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: think you're finding your three down back in this class,

775
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: it would be difficult to do. So what I would

776
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: do is probably take a chance fourth fifth round on

777
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: a couple guys who have the athletic tools but may

778
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: not necessarily be pof products coming out. Some of the

779
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: guys I'd highlighted in that molder, Rashad White from Arizona State,

780
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: who was a JUCO transfer, really just hasn't played too

781
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: much football, but is electric with the ball in his

782
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: hands and one of the best testers athletically in this

783
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: draft class. And then ze Quandary White from South Carolina

784
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: who was a backup there for them, but was a

785
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: former top recruit heck of an athlete, tested out really

786
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: well at the combine, but never really got to see

787
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: the football field. Those are two guys to where if

788
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: you're going to look for that mold, you could probably

789
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: find them in the later rounds. All right, Mike gets

790
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: a million dollar question. You're Nick Cassario, You've got the

791
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: number three, you've got the number thirteen pick. Who are

792
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: you selecting or what are you doing with those picks?

793
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: And I'm giving you the option of trades as well.

794
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: What are you doing at number three, number thirteen in

795
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: this year's draft. It's a tough one because, like I said,

796
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't love the top end tel in this draft. Buss.

797
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think pick three or pick fifteen is anywhere

798
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: close to the difference is what we saw last year.

799
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: So if the New Orleans Saints, with what they just did,

800
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: made that move, if they're willing to give up pick

801
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: sixteen and nineteen and also throw in some more draft capital,

802
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: my way, I'm looking to trade down from that number

803
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: three overall pick. This is a roster ware. You know,

804
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: one offensive tackle, one edge rusher isn't putting me over

805
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: the help. It isn't putting me over the edge here.

806
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: I need a lot of pass rushers. I need a

807
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: lot of offensive line help. So I'm looking to trade

808
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: down with that number three overall pick. Still, like I say,

809
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: collect valuable positions, but if I can get two more

810
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: first rounders, maybe a second and a fourth or something

811
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: like that, I'm making that trade every day because with

812
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: the state of this roster, I need to build every

813
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: single position. So the more picks, the more you can

814
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: address positions. All right, good stuff mic Renner from Pro

815
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: Football Folk, because you can follow him on Twitter and

816
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: read all of his work at Pro Football Focus, and

817
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: PFF is also launching a four episode podcast series with

818
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: number one overall projected pick, Aiden Hutchinson. It's titled hutch

819
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Be sure to download and subscribe. Mike, appreciate the time,

820
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: love seeing your work and excited to see where these

821
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: picks shake out. Oh me too, Thanks for having me on.

822
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: There's Mike Renner from Pro Football Focus with dpcdu in

823
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: the Deep Slant interview. And if you run into John Harris,

824
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: don't tell them we had Mike Renner on. All right,

825
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: just leave it out of the conversation and I'll make

826
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: it up to them later. Coming up, a little bit

827
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: of around the league stuff, including but not limited to

828
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: Christmas Day. I thought that belonged to the NBA. Well

829
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: not this year. We'll go over that a little bit.

830
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: And some in the media are looking at the draft

831
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: talking about free market and suggesting chaos. I'll address that.

832
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: It's happening next here on Texans All Access. Final thoughts

833
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: before we headed to the weekend here on Texans Radio,

834
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: as the NFL will come out with a triple header

835
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. Christmas Day is a Sunday this year,

836
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: so that means Christmas Eve being a Saturday, you would think, well,

837
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: are you going to play all the games on Christmas

838
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: Day because it's a Sunday. No, They're gonna play the

839
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: bulk of the games on Christmas Eves Saturday, and then

840
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday do a triple header. Now, for those of

841
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: you freaking out about the Christmas Day schedule, I think

842
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: the Christmas Eve schedule, as far as holiday tradition, impacts

843
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: things a greater deal. Unless you are on the road,

844
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: you're one of those crews on the road on Christmas Day.

845
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Otherwise you get home late Christmas Eve night and then

846
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: open the presents in the morning on three hours sleep

847
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: or wherever you're coming in from, however many hours of

848
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: sleep you're able to get from that trip. But as

849
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: far as the fan, as far as the viewing experience,

850
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, look, there's a lot that goes on Christmas Eve, Right,

851
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: that's a pretty busy night with the fam and Christmas morning, Okay,

852
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: that's wide open. There's not a whole lot of TV

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Speaker 1: viewing going on on Christmas morning and by Christmas Day afternoon. Look,

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Speaker 1: movies are premiering on Christmas Day. People have kind of

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Speaker 1: had it by then I need to get away from

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Speaker 1: the relatives at that point. I didn't say that on

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Speaker 1: the radio, did I. But I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people feel that way, and that's why movies are opening

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Speaker 1: up on Christmas Day traditionally, and some restaurants pop open

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Speaker 1: depending on what they are. I think the NFL will

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Speaker 1: do very well with a triple header on Christmaday. It's

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Speaker 1: funny because in the building here at NRG Stadium, you

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Speaker 1: get a lot of people who work these games, and

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Speaker 1: they're saying, Wow, I be and I sea if we're

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Speaker 1: on the road that weekend, because a lot of people

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Speaker 1: won't have to do anything except watch the game that's

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Speaker 1: on television for them. You know, those of us who

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Speaker 1: travel are kind of hoping for a friendly holiday situation.

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Speaker 1: But I always whip out the quote from one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite movie characters ever, him and Roth from Godfather

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Speaker 1: Part two, when he tells Michael Corleone, this is the

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Speaker 1: business we've chosen. Look, that's what I'm in. We're in

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Speaker 1: the entertainment business. We're expected to be playing on holidays

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Speaker 1: and times when other people are at home cozying up.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love my job. I love what

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Speaker 1: I do, and I'll never ever complain about it. It

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Speaker 1: is wonderful, all right. A couple of other things. Draft

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Speaker 1: coming up Thursday, in case you've been in a coma.

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Speaker 1: That'll be at Miller Outdoor Theater. First pick shortly after

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock. Texans will pick sometime between seven twenty and

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Speaker 1: seven forty. But information on the draft party can be

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Speaker 1: gotten can be had by logging out to Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: dot com or going to the Texans app. If you

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Speaker 1: have anything specific, hit me up personally on one of

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Speaker 1: my social media platforms and I'll be sure not to

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Speaker 1: answer your question. Now, I'm just kidding. I'll do my

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Speaker 1: best to answer your question, and we'll see how many

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Speaker 1: people show up to the draft party. I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be quite a lot. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 1: thinking Woodstock here, Okay. I don't think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a Yasgur's Farm kind of crowd. But it'll be a

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Speaker 1: lot of people at that Miller Outdoor Theater, thousands of

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Speaker 1: people watching the draft, seeing the entertainment that the Texans

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Speaker 1: crew puts together for you that night. We'll be doing

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Speaker 1: the radio coverage from a stage right next to the

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Speaker 1: theater in the theater building at stage right. You'll see

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Speaker 1: us in the concession area. You can't miss us, but

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will be walking around, exploring.

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Speaker 1: And we're looking forward to seeing all the fans out there,

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Speaker 1: all our friends, because we haven't been out much, right,

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Speaker 1: we haven't been doing radio aut much. Not a whole

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Speaker 1: ton of events yet, a little bit here, a little there.

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Speaker 1: But as we all get back to quote normal, is

904
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Speaker 1: there ever going to be such a thing again, we'll

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Speaker 1: see more and more of each other. And I really

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Speaker 1: do like that one item involving the draft, and this

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00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: was kind of floating around through PFT and other media

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Speaker 1: channels and people talking about people in the medium talking about, well,

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Speaker 1: in a free market world, should we even have a draft? Right?

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Speaker 1: Should you even have a draft? Shouldn't the college kids

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Speaker 1: be able to pick where they want to work as

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Speaker 1: long as that employer is willing to sign them. And

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Speaker 1: this also came up because of the Deebo Samuel story

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Speaker 1: where Chris Simms said, Hey, some of this might be

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Speaker 1: Samuel not wanting to live in California. That's why he

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Speaker 1: wants to be traded. Look, as long as there's a

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Speaker 1: salary cap it couldn't get that crazy, but it could

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Speaker 1: get really crazy. It could get really crazy. Total free market,

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Speaker 1: no draft, every college athlete coming out as a free agent. Wow,

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Speaker 1: can you imagine Twitter's gonna explode? Elon Musk is going

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Speaker 1: to need some new technology if he buys it to

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Speaker 1: How's all the reaction going on if there was that

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Speaker 1: kind of college free agency with the top prospects. But

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Speaker 1: you cannot ever get rid of the salary cap in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. This is what makes the league competitive. This

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Speaker 1: is why the Green Bay Packers can be a success.

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Speaker 1: This is why so many teams have a shot who

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Speaker 1: have been down and want to fight their way back.

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Speaker 1: It's because of the salary cap. But I think the

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Speaker 1: draft is a huge reason as well. The teams with

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Speaker 1: the poorer records get the draft first. I know it

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Speaker 1: doesn't always work out, but very often it does. You

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Speaker 1: get great prospects and you see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for the show tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Mike Renner for being on dpcity, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: nick as Sarrio, of course, Thank you very much, Robert

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Speaker 1: Harris for producing these shows. Are up on the Texans

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Speaker 1: app and Houston texans dot com have a great weekend everyone,

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Speaker 1: and go Texans.