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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation. It's the Drive on location Wes

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Speaker 3: Shuler Matt Williamson on Radio Row for our second day

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Speaker 3: We've got some fun guests lined up for today. Matt, listen,

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Speaker 3: This has been a heavy lift day for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: real thanks to a Meal of course, Steelers Video Officionado

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good one today too earlier. Yeah, I'm a little sorry.

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Speaker 3: another jam packed, beefy three hour edition of The Drive

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Speaker 3: on this Wednesday afternoon from Radio Row Matt. One of

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Speaker 3: the things that we wanted to dive into the freaks list.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so Bruce Feldman from the Athletic has done this

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Speaker 3: And there's always those guys.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you see it coming with somebody that you expect.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were a freak. One on the list

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Speaker 3: not necessarily for Steeler's purposes, but in this draft Kenyon Sadiq,

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Speaker 2: That's freak. What I've heard is he's gonna have like

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Speaker 2: I mean, you definitely see body types when they go

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Speaker 3: Ohio State. He's number two on this list six four

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Speaker 2: That's flying. That is yeah, Like when you go to

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Speaker 3: Number three is Kendrick Law, wide receiver from Kentucky. He's

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Speaker 2: You're right right too, Hendrick and all prospects six foot

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Speaker 3: Then bench pressed four to sixty five, squad six fifty five,

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Speaker 2: Four twos. Okay, most people that I've talked to think

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Speaker 2: the Mississippi state wide receiver will be the fastest guy here,

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Speaker 2: but it sounds like Kentucky receivers pretty darn close sounds then,

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Speaker 2: he's big. He is big, yeah, which I assume he's

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Speaker 2: maybe that's a project you take the fifth round.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the second wide receiver that we've talked

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you know you you made a you know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I'm sure if he does those things here,

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Speaker 3: David Bailey, the edge rusher out of Texas Tech fourteen

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Speaker 3: That sure is number seven on this list. Matt is

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Speaker 3: He was a four star quarterback recruit when he went

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Speaker 2: I never think of him as a freaky guy. I

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Speaker 3: Two tight ends in a top seven on this list. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: If the sixth round rolls around, Yeah, somebody you don't

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Speaker 2: And he could be a special teamer in the meantime

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Speaker 3: Right, Number eight is one of the biggest humans you

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Speaker 2: That number is going to be the key when he

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Speaker 3: And and does he try and weigh in a little

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, they're not on the podium speaking offensive lineman until

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Speaker 3: I just like to walk over there and see him staying.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a interesting you would if you coined

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Speaker 2: And what's also interesting, like I remember seeing Flozo Adams

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Speaker 3: Yes, thirty two inch vertical good broad jump nine foot

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Speaker 2: He squats over eight hundred. My goodness, Mike's fifteen and

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Speaker 3: There's a fine line there between being too big too big,

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Speaker 3: right right? You gotta still redirect number nine rfl Reese.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we've discussed him plenty, not not a surprise.

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Speaker 3: Like he'll when training camp breaks, he'll still be twenty

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but still that if he was in Latrobe

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I can understand why he probably should

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Speaker 2: or tackle. What's interesting to me is just I've done

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Speaker 3: It's nuts, nuts, Yeah, this set is insane. Yeah, number ten.

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Speaker 2: Real good conversation with him with Fran earlier because I'm

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Speaker 2: in this class, goodness stand out as the clear number

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Speaker 2: one and would that player thus be worthy of the

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Speaker 2: don't know if you remember Tommy Harris from Oklahoma that

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Speaker 2: in the draft, true three tech, the SAP type guys

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Speaker 2: this week of Wow. I mean, he just blows your

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Speaker 2: doors off athletically.

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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys I feel like that could

439
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Speaker 3: end up getting drafted in the twenties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

441
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Speaker 3: But when everyone does the let's redraft that this class

442
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Speaker 3: ends up going ninth or tenth, you know, there's.

443
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Speaker 2: Had to be something weird going on in Clemson last year.

444
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Speaker 3: Just yeah, they had so much talent and just underperformed

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Speaker 3: across the board. And yeah, let's take our first break

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Speaker 3: here of the Drive will hunt down some guests will

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Speaker 3: continue to talk about some of the names on this

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Speaker 3: freak list, including some of the wide receivers that we

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Speaker 3: have spent so much time conversing about already in this

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Speaker 3: draft process. Just getting started here for another day, another

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Speaker 3: three hour edition of The Drive. We are live on

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, all part of our ongoing combine coverage Steelers

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Speaker 3: It is The Drive on location, live at the Combine,

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Speaker 3: Indiana Convention Center, on Radio Row, our spiritual home here

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Speaker 3: every end of February, and of course you all know

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Speaker 3: a big part of that is all of the awesome

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Speaker 3: guests that we get to talk to throughout this week.

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Speaker 3: We've got another one for you, our first one here

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Speaker 3: on the Drive today, Travis May eight is E Sports.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Travis, Thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah great.

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Speaker 5: It's always a really busy week, but so much fun

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Speaker 5: just taking it all in. I think I hit up

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Speaker 5: eighteen different podiums today.

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Speaker 6: So just durilation overload right now, Okay, sorting through it

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Speaker 6: all and you'll stay for all the podium action, is

472
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Speaker 6: it and all that kind of stuff to that, because

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm the college football managing editor and so

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Speaker 6: I just I'm here to get do my own thing,

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Speaker 6: but also get all this content for everyone else so

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Speaker 6: that they.

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Speaker 4: Can do their writing, their videos.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm just content gathering, distributing, trying to find

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Speaker 5: some angles for some people to take advantage of this week.

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Speaker 5: And you know, because we cover all thirty two NFL

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Speaker 5: teams and sixteen college teams, it's just a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, So it's a topic we've had hit a

483
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Speaker 2: lot since we've been here and it's only been a

484
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Speaker 2: day and a half now. But the Steelers are so

485
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Speaker 2: wide receiver needy right now, and I think they'll sign

486
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Speaker 2: or trade for some brand name dude Romeo Dobbs or

487
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Speaker 2: maybe they get Brandon Ayuk finally, but I definitely think

488
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Speaker 2: they're gonna draft one in the top two rounds and

489
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Speaker 2: maybe even a fifth rounder. On top of that, they

490
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Speaker 2: got a lot of picks. Do you agree with the

491
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Speaker 2: masses that this is a deep but not loot receiver class.

492
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Speaker 2: And how do you kind of rank the first rounders?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like even even the first rounders, I wouldn't

495
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Speaker 5: say that man that that definitely looks like a normal

496
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Speaker 5: top ten pick. You because the Carnel takes even of

497
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Speaker 5: the world. Who is my wide receiver one? Even he

498
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Speaker 5: was the second fiddle on his own team for most

499
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Speaker 5: of his career and he was sharing targets with first

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Speaker 5: round picks.

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Speaker 2: First fiddle pretty good?

502
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, but he's my wife slash.

503
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're doing just fine. But I think I think

504
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Speaker 5: he's the top and he's not.

505
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Speaker 4: Going to be there. Jordan Tyson's not gonna be there

506
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Speaker 4: for the Steelers.

507
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Speaker 2: You don't think either one has any chance?

508
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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

509
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Speaker 5: I think that the Jordan Tyson Arizona State the medicals

510
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Speaker 5: because he was hurt even way back with his Colorado days,

511
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Speaker 5: like basically every single year he's missing time something. If

512
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Speaker 5: he is there, I think it's worth the shot, even

513
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Speaker 5: if there are some medical questions. But McKayle Lemon, I

514
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Speaker 5: think he's my wide receiver two in between those those three,

515
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Speaker 5: just because I mean he won the blat Nikoff Award.

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Speaker 4: He had all the tapes really good. I mean, yeah,

517
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Speaker 4: in the stats don't lie.

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Speaker 5: I mean he went all wide receivers in Power Conference

519
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Speaker 5: play through the end of the regular season, so I

520
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Speaker 5: mean just ridiculous. Beyond that, I really like Denzel Boston,

521
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Speaker 5: and Boston kind of just like feels like and looks.

522
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Speaker 2: Like Boston at twenty one. If he runs pretty decent here,

523
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Speaker 2: I think could kind of become Chalky and walk drafts

524
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Speaker 2: and things like that.

525
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Speaker 4: I think so.

526
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Speaker 5: And then after him, I really like Casey Concepcion. And

527
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Speaker 5: he's I mean two punt return touchdowns last year too,

528
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Speaker 5: So he had more value than just being a wide receiver.

529
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Speaker 2: He was a little more juice than those bigger body guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's twitch here than any of those guys, I think.

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Speaker 5: And he was more of an underneath threat at Nancy State,

532
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Speaker 5: and even in his first year there. I think his

533
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Speaker 5: final season he kind of turned into more of a

534
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Speaker 5: complete players. Average set the target was beyond twelve yards

535
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Speaker 5: in his final season two.

536
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Speaker 2: So he wasn't gadget. He wasn't just a guy Georgia

537
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Speaker 2: guys kind of gadget branch. Over half his catches last

538
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Speaker 2: year were screens seriously over fifty value. That's really hard

539
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Speaker 2: to project to the NFL level. So to Luthor Burden

540
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Speaker 2: a year ago exactly, yeah.

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Speaker 5: And his and he was, I mean, he's doing just fine.

542
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Speaker 5: But it's really really hard to project type of player.

543
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Speaker 5: So if you're looking at somebody that is going to

544
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Speaker 5: be available in that range, you're probably in the first round.

545
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: You're looking at CONCEPTSI or Boston. And if you want

546
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Speaker 5: to look past the injury struggles, I think Chris Bell

547
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Speaker 5: is a first round talent.

548
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Speaker 2: But tell me more about Bell. He's not. I don't

549
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Speaker 2: think we've talked a lot of Bell over the year,

550
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Speaker 2: over the last couple of.

551
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Speaker 5: Weeks, so he was one of those guys who broke

552
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Speaker 5: out a little bit later. But he always kind of

553
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Speaker 5: looked like an AJ Brown almost, you know, in terms

554
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 5: he's ripped up. He's ripped very physical, and he is physical.

555
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Speaker 5: He adds yak and he can be a deep threat.

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Speaker 5: I think two years ago is when he averaged like

557
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 5: seventeen yards per reception, so he can really press it

558
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Speaker 5: downfield if you need so to me, when he's healthy,

559
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Speaker 5: if you were healthy fully right now, I think we'd

560
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Speaker 5: be talking about him going in the twenties, oh wow,

561
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Speaker 5: you know, to the Steelers, Whereas I think a lot

562
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Speaker 5: of people think more Chalk is in that thirty to

563
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Speaker 5: forty range. But he's somebody that, depending again on the medicals,

564
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Speaker 5: if he could drop and be a great value for

565
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Speaker 5: a team or the Steelers or somebody else could just

566
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Speaker 5: be like you know what, we see the AJ Brown

567
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Speaker 5: type upside and just that's worth it.

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Speaker 4: So to me, the.

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Speaker 2: Catch and yes, some debo to him maybe, yeah, yeah,

570
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Speaker 2: I haven't thought about that.

571
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Speaker 4: I think so too.

572
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Speaker 5: Okay, So I think beyond that there is there's a

573
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Speaker 5: drop off. To me, I think that's pick your flavor

574
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Speaker 5: after that. And so if you're waiting a little bit

575
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Speaker 5: after that first round mark, you can kind of pick

576
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Speaker 5: your spot, I think, because there are several, like you said,

577
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily blue chip, but there's like after that

578
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Speaker 5: first tier and a half, there's probably fifteen twenty names,

579
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Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, I feel confident that they're going

580
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Speaker 5: to be a role player in the league for all.

581
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their second pick is what fifty or

582
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Speaker 2: fifty one or three r Yeah, twenty one plus thirty two,

583
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Speaker 2: give or take. Would the Indiana guys be there or

584
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Speaker 2: maybe Fields from Notre Dame. Any of those guys excite you, feelds.

585
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Speaker 4: It's funny.

586
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong, but Fields is another guy that just

587
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: feels like a big bodied Steelers wide receiver that would

588
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 5: you know, he can go up and make those ridiculous

589
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 5: one handed grabs and just you know, the acrobatic, ridiculous

590
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Speaker 5: stuff that we saw for I guess Pickens and even

591
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 5: back back in say, back in the day, it's not

592
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: that long ago, like Martavis Bryant when he was good.

593
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 4: You know, So it's like, yes, yeah, exactly so to me.

594
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: And and you know, Claypool and Notre Dame time, maybe

595
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 5: that's that's where it's coming from.

596
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Speaker 4: But yeah, Fields would be a good one.

597
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Speaker 5: And I see him going all over the place in

598
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 5: mock drafts and when when I talked to scouts, he's

599
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 5: all over the place from you know, oh, yeah, he

600
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 5: should go in mid second round, and then others like no,

601
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Speaker 5: maybe early day three. So I don't know where he's

602
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: going to go.

603
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Speaker 2: You think his forty is going to be a big

604
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Speaker 2: determining factor on him.

605
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Speaker 4: If he even runs.

606
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's going to be the one that

607
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 5: that does. But he's one that I would be interested

608
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: in Omar Cooper. You mentioned the Indiana guys, and Omar

609
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 5: Cooper and uh just and SOT. A lot of a

610
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 5: lot of people thought he was the better wide receiver

611
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: coming into this last year, but Cooper was the one

612
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: that actually shined in some of the most pivotal moments

613
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 5: for the Tea and so I think that's kind of flipped.

614
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 5: And so he might not even be there for the

615
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 5: second pick you guys have. I think he might be

616
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 5: in the mid thirties. That kind of rank makes, but

617
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: sat be there, Fields could be there beyond that. I

618
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 5: don't know what type of bodies you're trying to pull in,

619
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 5: but there's.

620
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Speaker 2: A as a big after little guys. You know. I

621
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: think they'll probably let Austin walk and Roman Wilson hasn't

622
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: really worked out. I would think that as you keep

623
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: mentioning Steeler body types, Yeah, so big something big.

624
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Speaker 5: With Metcalf, Yeah, because there's there's several in that next

625
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 5: tier of intriguing options. I mean, even like Bernard's not

626
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 5: a big guy out of Alabama, Antonio Williams out of Clemson,

627
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 5: He's not a big guy. Kevin Coleman Missouri had a

628
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 5: ridiculously impressive Senior Bowl.

629
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Speaker 4: Uh.

630
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 5: And you know he's he's probably not the body type

631
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 5: that you're looking for, but if you want somebody who

632
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 5: can do it all, he's got the the concentration grabs

633
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 5: and he's he plays a lot of different roles. He's

634
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: not just a slot guy. Especially in his U Mississippi

635
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: State season. He played for four different schools, by the way,

636
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: for the unfamiliar.

637
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable.

638
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got an interesting story because I don't know

639
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: if you remember.

640
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 5: You know, Travis Hunter went with Shudorf Sanders and Deon

641
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 5: Sanders to Jackson State. But the other guy in that

642
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 5: class was Kevin Coleman.

643
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that's where he started to Yeah.

644
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 5: Kevin Coleman, he was the top one hundred player in

645
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 5: that recruiting class by himself, but he was kind of

646
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 5: an afterthought because Travis Hunter being that the five star guy,

647
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 5: he got all the attention.

648
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: But Sanders got a little attention, Yeah, a little bit.

649
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 5: But it was it was Coleman who won All Conference

650
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 5: honors for the position at wide receiver that first year

651
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: in the MIAC and it wasn't Hunter.

652
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: And so that to me, says man. He produced there, he.

653
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: Produced it well, well, he produced it at Mississippi State

654
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: and then he it was immediately wide receiver won at Missouri.

655
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: Kind of a situation we we haven't really seen before,

656
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 5: like maybe ever.

657
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really is crazy, succeeding at every every stop.

658
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I mean, that's weird.

659
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm go need to look into him more. That's interesting.

660
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is very interesting. It is Travis May with

661
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: us here on the Drive eight to Z sports. Is

662
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: there a day three? Nobody's talking about this guy, but

663
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: I really got a crush at him. I think he

664
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: could be a fifth or sixth round. I know that's

665
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: asking you to cast a pretty wide name, but in

666
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: terms of a wide receiver that you think, you know,

667
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: this guy's not going to go in the top three

668
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: or four rounds, but I think he's better than he's perceived.

669
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

670
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 5: I think the low hanging fruit easy one would be

671
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: tire Montgomery, who's not even here this week. He had

672
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: a really great Senior Bowl. He was kind of.

673
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: Where's she from?

674
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, James Carroll, Oh yeah, yeah, And so

675
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: he just showed a.

676
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: Couple of bodies that went to that's not far from home.

677
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

678
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: Nice.

679
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 5: He went to the All American Bowl, leveled up and

680
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 5: made to the Senior Bowl, and at least the day

681
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 5: one of practice. It's really impressed, and so a lot

682
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 5: of the people I talked to are blown away about

683
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 5: what he was able to do.

684
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: That's one.

685
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 5: But then Barry and Brown LSU started at Kentucky. He

686
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 5: was another high pedigree guy could have started. He had

687
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 5: all the offers from everywhere. He could have gone to Alabama,

688
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: but instead he's like, no, I believe and stoops what

689
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 5: he's doing, goes to Kentucky, breaks the SEC record for

690
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 5: return touchdowns, by the way, and always recording to the GPS,

691
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 5: it's always breaking twenty one miles an hour, twenty two

692
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: miles an hour, has that kind of crazy speed. Didn't

693
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 5: really put it all together the way that we wanted

694
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 5: to see from him in his final year for LSU.

695
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 5: The offense was kind of broken last year. I mean,

696
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: Brian Kelly got fired, but Baron Brown's.

697
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: Didn't go so great. Yeah, or for Nusby or right, But.

698
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 5: In terms of raw ability and speed, just unmatched speed.

699
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: I think if anybody is going to be in the

700
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 5: conversation of breaking the forty record. It's going to be

701
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: him or Brendan Thompson of Mississippi State.

702
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Say's at the Mississippi State guy here and he has a.

703
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: Chance, and he's another one I like too. But Baron

704
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 5: Brown just his dynamic all round play. I think it's

705
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 5: very underrated. And you think a lot of those guys

706
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: are Day three I think so too, Yeah, Brndan Thompson

707
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: because like if he runs a four to two four

708
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 5: or something crazy, which is possible, he's a drag star.

709
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: Maybe he goes a little bit earlier, but both those

710
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 5: guys should be available in that.

711
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: You know, round five is range.

712
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: We even talked a lot of tight ends or running

713
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: backs because I don't think the Steelers are heavily in

714
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: the mark, especially for tight end. But do you have

715
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: a Han Cho's going to be running back? Two who's

716
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: going to be tight end too? And just talking to

717
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: people over the last twenty four hours, I didn't realize

718
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: the depth and the invite keys of the running backs

719
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: is really low this year. Yeah, and the total opposite

720
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: a tight end that there's a ton of them here

721
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: and there's some interesting Day three guys that just might fall.

722
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the tight ends have a bunch of balls of

723
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: clay that they could still be molded into something special.

724
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 5: I think that there's there's gonna be a ton of

725
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: guys taken in that day three range at tight end,

726
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure if the Steelers need one at

727
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 5: this point.

728
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: They have a few, but.

729
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they got a lot of picks.

730
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I like Michael Trigg. He was supposed to

731
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: be a big deal at a couple of different stops.

732
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: I mean he started I guess USC didn't come to

733
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: fruition there ole Miss Baylor kind of put it all

734
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: together Baylor and and showed that potential that like five

735
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: star recruit type of you know, early round tight end

736
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: potential that I think we talking about a lot, Yeah,

737
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 5: a lot of that.

738
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: I went to WU, so I watch a lot of

739
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: Big twelve football and he's a freak.

740
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so to me, I'm not sure if he's

741
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 5: not in two. I like Stours just a little bit more.

742
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: And being the Purdue guy. I like Max Clayer just fine,

743
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 5: even though he you know, went.

744
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: To Ohio State. We won't talk about that. After a

745
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: mich No I went to Purdue.

746
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: The soul.

747
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Claire was there first before Ohio State, and so yeah, Trader,

748
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 5: that's fine, But uh, I think that it's probably gonna

749
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 5: be a tight end to Claire or.

750
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: These guys are going to Michigan State Purdue in a

751
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: couple of days.

752
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 5: It's a good basketball not not so much football with

753
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: but uh but yeah, man.

754
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: But I think that's probably it's a class.

755
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

756
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and and that was on display at the Senior

757
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: Bowl as well.

758
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a position that many teams are

759
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: going to take two. So I wonder if like the

760
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: six round rules around and the Steelers are like, we've

761
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: got a fourth round grade on this guy. We don't

762
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: need a tight end. We've already made ten picks. Let's

763
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: just grab him because he's too good to be true.

764
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Tanner Tanner Cozyl from Houston might be

765
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 5: that available in that range. I'm trying to think of

766
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 5: a few others that would be there. But it's an

767
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 5: interesting class at tight end for sure. But running back,

768
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 5: we knew it was weaker. Yeah, so it was basically

769
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 5: Jeremiah Love and everybody else. I do like Jonah Coleman

770
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: quite a bit. He's just a a bowling ball covered

771
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: in knives, you know, running down the field and so

772
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: like he's going to take you out, and uh, he's

773
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: really fun to root for. Emitt Johnson Nebraska. I think

774
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: he would he should have had more Heisman votes actually

775
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: than he did. This super productive and a really good receiver,

776
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 5: right yeah yeah yeah uh and things weren't perfect around

777
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 5: him either. So like I think that gets over especially

778
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 5: with running backs, if they're producing despite the lack of surroundings,

779
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 5: that's that's that's horrible. Yeah, and so but beyond that,

780
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 5: if if Nick Singleton looks like the version of himself,

781
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 5: you know, the best version of himself when he's fully

782
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 5: healthy and he's you know, he's breaking the GPS at

783
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: his size, you know future back build, that that's.

784
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 4: That's somebody he could be in the running.

785
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: Back to conversation too. But the fifth sixth rounds not

786
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: as good as it's been, especially like last year.

787
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: No, I mean we're I mean normally you see, like

788
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 5: what twenty ish running backs go off the board. Maybe

789
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 5: a deeper class he might see twenty five. This could

790
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 5: be one of those mid teens years in terms of

791
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 5: overall picks at the position.

792
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, you know, the podium earlier today. Linebackers, yeah,

793
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: the middle linebackers, the off ball linebackers. Does this feel

794
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: like one of the more talented, one of the more

795
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: deeper classes at that position that we've seen. Obviously you've

796
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: got the big headlining names, particularly the two guys out

797
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 3: of Ohio State, but it feels like even three, four

798
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: or five guys behind them have a chance to be

799
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: really solid NFL players.

800
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

801
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: I think about like Anthony Hill junior, Texas, Texas. I mean,

802
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 5: he was supposed to be a big deal, and he

803
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 5: still is a big deal, but in this class he's

804
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: kind of an afterthought because of the ridiculous upside of

805
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 5: an ov L Reese or Sonny Styles or a CJ.

806
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: Allen.

807
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: He might have been like middle linebacker one in a

808
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: couple of these previous years.

809
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and so to me, you know it could he

810
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 5: be a little bit less stiff in coverage, absolutely, but

811
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 5: the energy that he brings is infextious. He was a

812
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 5: huge part of the recruiting process there for Texas. He's

813
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 5: going to be a leader, he's going to be a

814
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: quick learner, he's a smart guy, and he has all

815
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 5: the trades. So to me, that's somebody i'd be, you know,

816
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 5: clamoring to get my hands on if I'm a an NFLGM.

817
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 5: And I've seen him dropping a little bit in recent

818
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 5: mock drafts, and I have no idea why, because he

819
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 5: shouldn't be at all, just maybe.

820
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: Because there's so many quality players with the position or.

821
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: Probably, But then you get past him and you're talking

822
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 5: about Jacob Rodriguez, who he plays with a ridiculous edge.

823
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: He makes a million play so much fun to watch

824
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 5: play football, I mean yeah, and plus he's got an

825
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: awesome mustache.

826
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, he looks like he's playing an eighties cop

827
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: and action.

828
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: That's the look. I was like, what is it?

829
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: That's it?

830
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: But uh, it's funny just seeing him and Lee Hunter

831
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 5: even like talking back and forth. They both play with

832
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 5: this wild edge to their game.

833
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: So he's really fun.

834
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: Josie Trotter, A few of our staff at eighty his

835
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: e Sports were really impressed by him at his podium

836
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 5: today throughout the process in his film.

837
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: Matches, coverage isn't his bag?

838
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, neither is the same with Jake Golday of Cincinnati.

839
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 5: But you know, and that's why they're available around Yeah. Yeah,

840
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: so I think you know you're talking about more like

841
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: two down players and players for something. But but even so,

842
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: that middle round range has a bunch of guys that

843
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 5: if you overlook one thing, like, okay, he could be

844
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 5: a starter for.

845
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: A long time.

846
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: Okay. So I've been trying. I've been squinting really hard

847
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: to try to find a mid round quarterback that in

848
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: two years could be the Steelers next franchise guy. And

849
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: it's hard in this draft. I mean not Smyer's probably

850
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: gonna be gone before I'm willing to pull a trigger.

851
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: But I keep coming back to Aller and Peyton and

852
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: and think, at least there's traits here for these guys,

853
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: totally red shirt them, maybe hangs out and learns from

854
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers for a year or two, and maybe you

855
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: have something. Is there anything to be mined out of

856
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: those guys?

857
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: I think so?

858
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: I think.

859
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: I think what last year, even Drew Aller, we were

860
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 5: looking at hey, he could be a first round pick.

861
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this quarterback last would be so great because

862
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: I was plub Nick and Aller, Right.

863
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been nice.

864
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 3: Next year, next year, always, next year, that's it, Freame

865
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: beer tomorrow.

866
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: Yes exactly. But Drew Aller.

867
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: I think he still has all the traits you want

868
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: to see as he super hyper mobile, not necessarily it's

869
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 5: pretty heavy footed, right, Yeah, But even so he does

870
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: to me, I feel like a Steelers quarterback.

871
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he feels like, hey, if you big and physical,

872
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 4: big and physical.

873
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 5: You mold him into being the next Well that's probably

874
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: not gonna make Roethlisberger, but you know that might be

875
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: a little bit yeah, really hard. Yeah, and just just

876
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 5: see the build, you know. Okay, sure, but I think

877
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 5: that would be a safe play. I'm not as high

878
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 5: on Peyton. I know you are if I was.

879
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm just excited because he's an athlete and he's big,

880
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: and yeah, there's not many like him.

881
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

882
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 5: If I if I want to throw in like one

883
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 5: more name in the hat, I'd say Solia Robertson a

884
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 5: Baylor Yeah.

885
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: You know he you know, he was supposed to succeed

886
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: in the SEC. Things didn't go that well.

887
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: He transfers over and has two good seasons and he's

888
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: not a crazy mobile threat himself either. But I was

889
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 5: really impressed by his arm, talent and decision making, And

890
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: to me, he feels like somebody who's going to be

891
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 5: in the league a long time, even if it's not

892
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 5: a starter. So I'd be looking at Sawyer Robertson out

893
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 5: of Baylor.

894
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: But you agree with the masses that next year has

895
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: a chance to be crazy. Oh yes, that's really the

896
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: year to go shopping.

897
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: You know.

898
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: Let's let's hope it doesn't fall apart like did this

899
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 5: past year.

900
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: So there's so many names, it'd be shocking if it

901
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: does it. Ten or twelve of them. It seemed like

902
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: they could be in the first round. Think it's gonna

903
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: be better than this year.

904
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yah yeah sure.

905
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: Travis may eight is e Sports kind enough to join

906
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: us here on Radio Row.

907
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: Thank you for your time, Thanks for having me, guys,

908
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: and joy the rest of the week.

909
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Speaker 3: You as well.

910
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: Sure we will contuch a neighboring table over here, right,

911
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: that's right, it's in good neighborhood.

912
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: It's a good air. They put all the cool kids

913
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: over here and this front, front and center. We'll be

914
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: back with more when we return. Wes Shooler Matt Williamson

915
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: live on Radio Row. It's our combine coverage Steelers Nation

916
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: This is live Coble reach of that twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the

919
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Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network.

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00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: Back on Radio Row here on the drive in our

921
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: star studded seleelebrity a list guest tour continues here, which

922
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Speaker 3: is always on my favor with one of our favorites,

923
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Speaker 3: Matt harmon Yahoo Sports Reception perception. Matt, we're back again

924
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Speaker 3: for another year. How are we doing?

925
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, you have the star stud of

926
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Speaker 7: guessing behind the curtain here. I don't know. I don't

927
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Speaker 7: see him anywhere. It's good to be yeah, good. Yeah,

928
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Speaker 7: after I'm done messing it up, they'll come in class situate.

929
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

930
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Speaker 7: It's good to talk to you guys. It's just crazy

931
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 7: to see what a big event this always is. Man

932
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 7: like it is, Matt, you know when you were coming

933
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 7: here years ago, did you ever expect this to be like?

934
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: Not to this right?

935
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 7: Live coverage of the scouting Combine nine hours a day here,

936
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 7: It's nuts.

937
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: It's crazy. But you guys have been doing your podcast

938
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: from over there.

939
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, live shows, the whole deal. Yeah, so hey, we're

940
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 7: all doing it, man. It feels yeah.

941
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen was my first year here, so that's been

942
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: what eight or nine years time, and even in that standpoint,

943
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: it's changed so much it's it's just awesome.

944
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: We had Greg Cosel this morning, who he works for

945
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: NFL Films, and he said, I broadcasted, I was in

946
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: charge of the production team for the first broadcast of

947
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: any combine, which was like twenty years ago. Yeah, and

948
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: he's like, they wouldn't release any of the times, you know,

949
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: like the NFL was real secretive about it, like like

950
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: he was just blown away of how much it's changed.

951
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: And that wasn't that long ago. But we're talking wide receivers,

952
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: this whole segment all the way deal.

953
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 3: So all right, mister reception perception, Who's wide receiver one

954
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: in this twenty twenty six draft class?

955
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

956
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 7: The way I view this classes, I think there are

957
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 7: five guys that I would feel comfortable taking in the

958
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 7: first round this year.

959
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: Including at twenty one for the Steeler.

960
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, skip or tap, Yeah, for sure, I take any

961
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 7: of these guys five in the first round. But to me,

962
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 7: the first tier is the first two guys, and for

963
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 7: me that's Carnel Tate and MacKaye Lemon. I think when

964
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 7: you're breaking ties in terms of like who is. I

965
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 7: just did a whole video on this for my YouTube

966
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 7: channel that people can check out in the mail bag

967
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 7: segment where on reception perception, yes, yeah, correct, and kind

968
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 7: of thinking just through how are you going to split

969
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 7: the ties between a guy like Carnel Tate and Makaye Lemon.

970
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 7: I think that Lemon probably, especially if you're thinking about

971
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 7: from a production standpoint, probably has the highest ceiling between

972
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 7: the two guys because he could be like that Pukina

973
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 7: Kua I'm on raw type where he's moving around the formation.

974
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 7: He's really being maximized. But it takes the right offense.

975
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 7: It takes the right coordinator with the right vision to

976
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 7: see that guy. But for Tate, I think he is

977
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 7: a fit for like thirty two NFL offenses because he's

978
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 7: a perimeter receiver. There's like an interesting I've seen people

979
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 7: compare him to George Pickens, I think O. I think

980
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 7: for me, I've seen a little bit of like pre

981
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 7: Hiatus from the NFL Calvin Ridley to him, Like a

982
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 7: guy that can separate can win in tight coverage as well,

983
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 7: So a guy that is certainly good Like is he

984
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 7: a one? Is he a two? I don't know, but

985
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 7: I know that he can run out and win on

986
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 7: the perimeter and win a real deal vertical routtree because

987
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 7: that's exactly what we've seen him doing, a ton of

988
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 7: proof of concept, great hands as well, wins away from

989
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 7: his frame. So yeah, I think if you're hedging your

990
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 7: bets as to who's the wide receiver one, it'd probably

991
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 7: pick Tate. But I acknowledge that exactly still fit anybody.

992
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 7: But then if we come away from the draft in

993
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 7: April and Mackay Lemon lands with the right team that

994
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 7: I think could maximize him from a pre snap standpoint,

995
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 7: Like I when you're doing post draft like dynasty rookie

996
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 7: rankings for example, that could easily flip.

997
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: Like if one of them is gonna catch ninety to

998
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: one hundred balls a year, it's probably Lemon totally.

999
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, if they get like a consistent ninety catches right

1000
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 7: that in pen every single year. I mean, I think

1001
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 7: if he goes to a team like the Saints where

1002
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 7: Kellen Nover is, I think a proven designer of offense

1003
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 7: in terms of maximizing receiver pre snap alignment. I mean,

1004
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 7: you look at his year in Philadelphia, DeVante Smith snaps

1005
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 7: in the slot, shoot up this last year for Chris

1006
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 7: o Lobby, his snaps in the slot shoot up. And

1007
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 7: it's not because those guys need to be slot only

1008
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 7: or even slot first. Players like those guys can win

1009
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 7: on the outside, no question, We've seen examples of that,

1010
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 7: but it just allows them to be more multiple. It

1011
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 7: makes it more dangerous from emotion standpoint pre snap and yeah,

1012
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 7: I think that he could do the same thing with

1013
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: the guy like mckaylin.

1014
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: Get your best guy the ball and yeah, so who's

1015
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: your next tier there would be.

1016
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 7: I think it's a group of then I think it's

1017
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 7: a group of three, and I'm just kind of flip

1018
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 7: flopping sort of my ordering of these three. And really, again,

1019
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 7: they're so different. And that's the thing this year. I've

1020
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 7: been saying this a lot. This week, there's going to

1021
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 7: be a lot of what essentially are preference based debates

1022
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 7: about wide receivers, where like.

1023
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I like this guy, you like that Chevy.

1024
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly like it just this is my flavor, you know,

1025
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 7: And that's what this draft is really all about. At

1026
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 7: the wide receiver position. There's a lot of very flavors.

1027
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 7: Because the three guys about to talk about here, Jordan Tyson,

1028
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 7: Casey Conception on Denzel Boston. Those guys are all so different.

1029
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 7: So it's like it depends on what your team needs,

1030
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 7: what you're looking for. But yeah, those three guys I

1031
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 7: think are all first round picks. They all have flaws,

1032
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 7: but they all have pretty clear strengths. And it again,

1033
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 7: it just kind of comes down to what you want.

1034
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 7: I mean, when we see these guys coming here for

1035
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 7: interviews and workouts in the coming days, and you see

1036
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 7: like Casey Conception lined up next to Denzel Boston and

1037
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 7: it's gonna look very different.

1038
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: And when you turn on the.

1039
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 7: Face and they play four yeah, six' four over two

1040
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 7: hundred and ten pounds what he's listed, At casey will

1041
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 7: see you, know but he's listed at like five eleven

1042
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 7: one to ninety ish or something like. That AND i,

1043
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 7: know for, me LIKE i have fallen for the sub

1044
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 7: six foot you, know sub one hundred and ninety five pounds,

1045
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 7: separator and way too Often i'm trying to wean myself

1046
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 7: off that type of. Man he makes it really hard

1047
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 7: because the film is incredible on this. GUY i think

1048
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 7: he's he obviously has a little bit of a drop.

1049
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 7: Issue we need to kind of work on. THAT i

1050
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 7: think it's one of. Those and you know when you watch,

1051
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 7: guys is this a focus? Issue is it a concentration,

1052
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 7: issue or is it a technique and attack? Issue AND

1053
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 7: i think you see him win, enough like he's one

1054
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 7: of these Guys Deontay johnson was with The Pittsburgh, steelers

1055
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 7: is like drops the easy ones but makes the tough, Catches,

1056
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 7: like what are we doing with? That he's the? Issue,

1057
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 7: yeah what's the issue? Here is it an attack? Issue

1058
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 7: is it a focus? Issue is it where he's getting

1059
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 7: the football stroned to? Him but, YEAH i mean everything

1060
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 7: else outside of that is incredible With. Casey he wins

1061
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 7: in the open, field he wins at all three levels

1062
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 7: of the route, tree and and just again could be

1063
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 7: a very dangerous player pre and.

1064
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Post now you think he is the most juice of

1065
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: the five you? Mentioned oh, yeah, yeah.

1066
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 7: QUESTION i think he's probably the most explosive separator of

1067
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 7: the five. Guys AND i think you see a lot

1068
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 7: of reps of him against press coverage where he releases

1069
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 7: and stacks and gets on the. Field so not a

1070
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 7: guy THAT i think needs to be a slot first.

1071
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 7: Player BUT i say that also being transparent That i've

1072
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 7: said that about a lot of the players that teams have. Labeled,

1073
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 7: yeah it ends up as a slot first. Player so

1074
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 7: it just kind of depends if that next team shares

1075
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 7: that vision as.

1076
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: Well If Jordan tyson didn't have the medical, concerns would

1077
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: he be up in that first tier With lemon And.

1078
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 7: Tate, NO i even with the medical, concerns WHICH i,

1079
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 7: mean by the, way, yeah it's like that is a

1080
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 7: thing you got to talk. About he's not participating in

1081
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 7: this event because a hamstring injury that it was like

1082
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 7: three months, ago you, know like a multi ligament. Need

1083
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 7: it's something, yeah, yeah and like maybe, hey you, know

1084
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 7: knock on, wood like for him hopefully fingers. Crossed we're

1085
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 7: rooting for all these guys like the next three to

1086
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 7: four to five years there's no medical. Issues BUT i

1087
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 7: also think that over that course there needs to be

1088
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 7: development for him as a man coverage. Beater and he's

1089
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 7: the ONE i would just say of the top guys

1090
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 7: have had the most difficulty figuring out like what he

1091
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 7: is because with all of those other four, GUYS i

1092
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 7: Think i've got a pretty clear, picture especially when it

1093
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 7: comes to Like tate And. LEMON i, know exactly what

1094
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 7: those guys. ARE i know exactly WHAT i would want

1095
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 7: to do with him IF i was calling her on.

1096
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 7: Offense With Jordan, Tye i'm still kind of trying to

1097
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 7: figure out exactly what he should be deployed as BECAUSE

1098
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 7: i actually think his zone coverage recognition and spatial awareness

1099
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 7: is really. Good but you just see him at times

1100
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 7: like overseell and overrun his, routes AND i think that

1101
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 7: people on the, outside when you're just watching highlights and

1102
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 7: you see a lot of those like quick twitch, movements

1103
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 7: people mistake that for good route, running but it's actually

1104
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 7: just your over selling, it like good corners are gonna

1105
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 7: completely blot that, out especially when you think about translating

1106
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 7: to the pro. LEVEL a guy Like Jerry, JUDY i

1107
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 7: Saw Hayden wings From Underdog fantasy made that. Comparison it's, like,

1108
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 7: oh that's exactly exactly. Right AND i do think we

1109
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 7: don't need the wasted, motion don't need the. Waste just

1110
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 7: be where you're supposed to.

1111
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Be and And Andy isabella would do this dance at

1112
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and go nowhere.

1113
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 7: Right, exactly and it's, Like, okay well you maybe you're,

1114
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 7: open But it's like you're five seconds into the route

1115
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 7: and guess what the quarterbacks moved on to the progression

1116
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 7: been sacked or or you, know throwing.

1117
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: Down the swords and raiders are lost art then, Right

1118
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: indie to, Shoot AND.

1119
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 7: I think for exactly exactly, Right, yeah that's a that's

1120
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 7: a great way of saying. It AND i think for

1121
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 7: a guy Like, TYSON i think not to just BECAUSE

1122
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 7: i don't think The Jerry judy comparison is. PERFECT i

1123
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 7: Think tyson actually tracks and adjustsin catches the football better

1124
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 7: and tight covers and a guy Like judy. Does but

1125
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 7: when The browns had success With judy in twenty twenty,

1126
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 7: four obviously it was with The Jameis winston fantasy, scam

1127
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 7: but also they essentially just said, like, hey you're gonna

1128
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 7: line up A, Z you're gonna move around around a

1129
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 7: little bit pre, snap and when you get into that,

1130
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 7: route like you're just gonna snap one snap and go

1131
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 7: like not a lot of, movement not a lot of quick.

1132
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 7: Slants LIKE i talked With Ceedee lamb at The Super

1133
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 7: bowl and he had a really good quote about how

1134
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 7: when you're the slot receiver you have to win, twice

1135
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 7: like you gotta essentially win off the, line and then

1136
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 7: you gotta win once again because you'd face a lot

1137
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 7: of zone. Coverage there's more of just the two guys.

1138
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 7: There you gotta be very spatially. Aware it was a great, CONVERSATION,

1139
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 7: cd very smart. Receiver so, Yeah i've spent the last

1140
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 7: decade plus in my life studying. Receivers i'm still learning

1141
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 7: something new from the guys who do it every, day you. Know,

1142
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 7: so like that was a great way of thinking About

1143
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 7: AND i think For judy you saw that In denver

1144
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 7: where he was that slot. Player it's just never really

1145
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 7: a good fit for him because he's not that zone

1146
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 7: beater because he wastes all that motion doing all the danceing.

1147
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 7: Around but when they got him as the z In cleveland,

1148
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 7: again you're just running a runway route like one snap

1149
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 7: it off and you're. Open AND i Think, tyson when

1150
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 7: he's decisive and in the right, spots you see that

1151
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 7: ability to get. Open it's JUST i would call it

1152
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 7: inconsistent rather than a strength of his.

1153
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: Game SO i urge everyone to check out reception perception

1154
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: because it's not just draft. STUFF i, Mean matt breaks

1155
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: down all the top receivers AND i really think The

1156
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: steelers are going to add somebody that's been in fantasy.

1157
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: Leagues it's a. Veteran maybe It's dobbs Or. SHAHEED i

1158
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: don't Think peerce would be in the. MIX i could see.

1159
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: That i'm not gonna ask you About brandy you because

1160
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 2: who the heck, Knows but, YEAH Dj Moore pittman really intrigues.

1161
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: Me is there any of those names That i've heard

1162
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: you say that you Think dobbs has taken his game

1163
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: to another? Level of the free, agents he's the ONE

1164
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: i would put a chip.

1165
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 7: On.

1166
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: YEAH i Like dobbs a.

1167
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 7: Lot the one THING i would say with him and

1168
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 7: kind of thinking about him for The steelers is THE

1169
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 7: dk is definitely THAT x receiver and that's essentially Where

1170
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 7: dobbs has done almost all of his work the last few.

1171
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 7: Years SO i wonder if it's a little bit of

1172
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 7: a deplicative skill set. There dobbs is A he's almost

1173
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 7: like a dig route. Merchant AND i say that like, Complimentary,

1174
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 7: Yeah parentz's complimentary because he's. Great he's great at. That

1175
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 7: like a lot of his best routes is when he

1176
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 7: can win over the middle of the field in that intermediate,

1177
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 7: area which is great critical to that packer. SYSTEM a

1178
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 7: lot of teams want to attack that. WAY i don't

1179
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 7: know if it's actually really What mike McCarthy's gonna want to.

1180
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 7: Do it's a lot more of The West coast Slamt rogers.

1181
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Has thrown the middle.

1182
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 7: Either and ALSO i was gonna, say are we living

1183
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 7: in the world Where rogers is? Back, likely, yeah that's

1184
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 7: by far the lead and in that and in that, case,

1185
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 7: yeah it's like people would probably, think, oh he's played with.

1186
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 7: That BUT i Think dobbs game has changed a lot

1187
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 7: Since rogers was, there you, know for for the. Better like,

1188
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 7: again we're talking about him winning over the middle of the.

1189
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 7: Field that's not what he did as a. Rookie as

1190
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 7: a rookie straight, yeah, right he was a straight line

1191
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 7: guy and and just more of a vertical route runner

1192
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 7: and that didn't really fit his. Game now they've kind

1193
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 7: of adjusted his role in the route treat to what

1194
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 7: fits him. Better he's developed a lot as a, player

1195
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 7: and just AGAIN i think it's a little bit of

1196
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 7: a applicative skill set for what you'd WANT Dk metcalf to,

1197
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 7: be who also probably does his best work as A

1198
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 7: x receiver over the. Milllefield SO i like The pittman

1199
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 7: suggestion a lot is the ONE i keep warming up.

1200
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 7: To pittman's a big. Body he looks like AN, x

1201
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 7: but he plays a lot OF. Z he moves around

1202
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 7: on the, slot he does a little inside. Outside he

1203
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 7: works really well over the mill of field as. Well

1204
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 7: but he's also good on those like quick hitting slants

1205
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 7: Which rogers does like to, throw which even if it's Not,

1206
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 7: rogers it's going to be a staple of the McCarthy

1207
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 7: offense because it's Very West coast. Based So, Yeah pittman

1208
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 7: is just so smart too diagnose his own coverage really.

1209
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 7: Well he'd make a great coach if he ever wanted

1210
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 7: to after he stops.

1211
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: Playing, yeah draft the guy in the second round with him.

1212
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 7: Too. Yeah they are definitely one of those teams THAT

1213
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 7: i think could double dip at. It you, KNOW i

1214
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 7: was just on A bill's station over, there and that's

1215
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 7: a TEAM i think should one double. Dip it's, like

1216
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: you can you can make the big, swing you, know

1217
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 7: WHICH i think The steelers made the big swing last

1218
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 7: year to Get metcalf and we, can you, know debate

1219
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 7: whether that was a good swing or, not but it

1220
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 7: was a big. Swing you trade an, asset you pay him.

1221
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 7: Whatever now it's, like what's a better thing to do

1222
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 7: is to double dip at the position, essentially like, yeah

1223
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 7: maybe it's a veteran and first round. Pick and it

1224
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 7: kind of depends on what tier of player we're looking at.

1225
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: Here LIKE i wonder if you can Get ayuk at

1226
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: a massive discount OR Dj moore seems to worry. Me

1227
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: it seem like it's the best days might be behind.

1228
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: HIM Aj brown's the big, name but he slight the

1229
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: cline with him as.

1230
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 7: WELL i agree slight receiver aging is it's like my

1231
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 7: favorite but least favorite topic to talk. About it's my

1232
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 7: favorite because it's like it's it's. Interesting but the REASON

1233
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 7: i hate it is because it's just a hard thing

1234
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 7: to like get your your your mind.

1235
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: AROUND i, mean and it's.

1236
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 7: Hard it's it's not the rules are not the same

1237
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 7: for every single, player even within player. Archetypes, NOW i

1238
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 7: do think like technicians are the guys that generally age pretty.

1239
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 7: Well you think About keenan al and you think About Stefan,

1240
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 7: diggs like those declines have been. Graceful, Yeah dick started

1241
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 7: to decline at the the end of His buffalo tenure

1242
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty, Three like you saw that sort of slight,

1243
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 7: decline like you're saying WITH. A. J, brown you saw

1244
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 7: a slight decline last. YEAR i would agree with. THAT

1245
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 7: i said that a lot during the, year and then

1246
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 7: we've seen him kind of still age gracefully ever, since

1247
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 7: and even even though there was a major en it's

1248
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 7: somewhere in. There but THEN i come back to Like Dez.

1249
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 7: BRYANT i remember being AN nfl network in twenty eighteen

1250
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 7: the the off, seas right, yeah the offseason that The

1251
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 7: cowboys cut, him and it was like wall to wall,

1252
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 7: coverage like Where's Dez brian gonna? Goes LIKE i was

1253
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 7: a little low level at the, time still, nobody BUT

1254
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 7: i was a big time. Nobody THEN i was, like

1255
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 7: put me on that show And i'll tell you that

1256
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 7: he's not the player that he was, anymore because like

1257
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 7: once you saw just it was right off the Cliff

1258
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 7: Alan robinson who spent the year With, pittsburgh and that.

1259
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: Was a PLAYER i Love Dowan.

1260
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 7: ROBINSON i, remember, yeah but once it, went it, went

1261
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 7: and it was, Gone and like that's typically for those

1262
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 7: like bigger receivers who aren't elite elite special athletes Could

1263
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 7: AND i, think right, like is he more of that

1264
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 7: bucket or is he more of the you, Know Keenan

1265
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 7: allen stuff On diggs. BUCKET i think it's probably more

1266
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 7: towards the former than the.

1267
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: Latter it Is Matt harmon with us here on The

1268
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: drive live On Radio. Row all, right we got your

1269
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: thoughts on the top five first round guys in this.

1270
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: Class some free agency stuff, there what about the next,

1271
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: wave what about the next, crop The day two maybe

1272
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: even Potential day three. Guys, yeah we've talked.

1273
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: One of these. NAMES i think they'd Be day two. Shopping,

1274
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: YEAH i would say so.

1275
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 7: Too AND i think that, again this is where it

1276
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 7: comes down to flavors and like what are you looking?

1277
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 7: For and there's a lot of really interesting names. There

1278
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 7: Malachi fields out Of Notre, DAME i Think i've seen

1279
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 7: some Like round one box for, HIM i think he's

1280
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 7: more of A day two, guy but a really Interesting

1281
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 7: day two guy THAT i think can PLAY x receiver for.

1282
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 7: Sure but ALSO i thought his like zone coverage recognition

1283
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 7: was much more impressive THAN i maybe would have expected

1284
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 7: for a guy that's you, know six or four bigger,

1285
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 7: Receiver like there's a lot of lanky guys in this.

1286
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 7: DRAFT i think he's got a little bit more opo

1287
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 7: him as a bigger. Receiver Ted hurst is another one

1288
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 7: out Of georgia's. State, yeah which is, like didn't Think

1289
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 7: i'd be watching a lot Of georgia's state, tape but,

1290
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 7: Man i'll tell you. What he definitely is one of

1291
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 7: those guys like instantly stands, out looks looks the part

1292
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 7: reminds you a little bit of Like Tory horton from last year's,

1293
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 7: draft a z that probably runs these like slasher routes

1294
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 7: over the. Middle definitely has speed and twitch to. HIM

1295
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 7: i like him a. Lot Jeremy bernard out Of, alabama

1296
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 7: probably not like the the sexiest tape you're gonna, watch

1297
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 7: but looks like a great glue, guy you, know like

1298
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 7: a wide receiver three that just hangs on to the.

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 7: ROSTER i think there's a lot of guys like that

1300
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 7: in this. Class and like the buzz of the town

1301
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 7: this week Is Omar Cooper. Junior of, course to, ME

1302
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 7: i think he's a, second a high second rounder as

1303
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 7: opposed to a first. Rounder but it's a skill set

1304
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 7: that a lot of teams are looking for right. Now

1305
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 7: you think about like what The bears got out Of

1306
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 7: Luther burden last, year where it was a lot of

1307
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 7: like created designed. STUFF i Think burden is more more

1308
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 7: dangerous against man coverage Than Omar cooper, is for. Sure

1309
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 7: that's my biggest hang up With cooper is THAT i

1310
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 7: think he's a little tight as a one on one

1311
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 7: man coverage rout. Running you see him get stuck at

1312
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 7: the break points every now and, again and, like we

1313
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 7: can't be this kind of slot yards after catch guy

1314
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 7: if we're also getting stuck on our over the middle.

1315
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 7: Routes AND i do think you see that with him.

1316
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 7: Sometimes so that's like the development that he. Needs but,

1317
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 7: man you watch you get the ball in his. Hands

1318
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 7: he is tough as, hell physical as a runner after the,

1319
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 7: catch physical as a. Blocker i've heard great character reports on,

1320
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 7: Him so maybe he's gonna be able to put that

1321
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 7: work in and get. Better but, yeah those are some

1322
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 7: names on day two THAT i think people should.

1323
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: Know last ONE i got for you Is. Brazzle if

1324
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: you Watch, brazi, yeah, OKAY i mean he's obviously, big

1325
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: he's obviously, fast long side or.

1326
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 7: FLUID i think for a guy at that, size but

1327
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 7: he's one of These tennessee wide receivers that comes from

1328
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 7: The Looney tunes offense right, right he lines up on

1329
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 7: one side of the, field which that to, me.

1330
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: That's a big, flag big red flag for.

1331
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 7: Me like If i've shared the list before and it's

1332
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 7: a lot of and so people can find her On,

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00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 7: twitter it's on reception, PERCEPTION i, think, ironically And Jack

1334
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 7: besh's profile a guy THAT i really liked that, like

1335
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 7: oh he could be like a big slot and he

1336
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 7: did nothing as a rookie.

1337
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: And he was one of those guys only coaching staff, It, oh.

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00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 7: Beyond with you on that. One, YEAH i have one

1339
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 7: hundred percent with. You that was, weird like to way

1340
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 7: too many cooks in the kitchen and they all are

1341
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 7: cooking off different. Cookbooks not a great situation there In Las.

1342
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 7: Vegas h AND i it's it's it's it's definitely that's

1343
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 7: a that's a part of. It but again that's is

1344
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 7: where people can find the, List like it's a lot

1345
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 7: of guys that either a flamed out or b took

1346
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 7: a while to develop up in the. League it's Like

1347
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 7: Cedric tillman, types you, know like, again a guy that's

1348
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 7: shown some, flashes but like that's the best that you've.

1349
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 7: Got the guys who have succeeded out of, that it's

1350
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 7: Been Dj, moore it's Been Drake. London, uh and then

1351
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 7: guys that have more so become slot.

1352
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: Receives if you're a, SUPERSTAR i think like As bryant

1353
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: was that.

1354
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 7: Guy, yeah Like Rashi rice is one of, those but

1355
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 7: he moved on From, yeah he moved from the perimeter

1356
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 7: into the.

1357
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: Slot you.

1358
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 7: Know so there's Definitely jujus MTh schuster was another one

1359
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 7: became a slot receiver in the. League so those are

1360
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 7: kind of like the guys that have, hits and even

1361
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 7: even Like Drake london And Dj moore are kind of movement,

1362
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 7: guys they're not a perimeter receivers in the league necessarily

1363
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 7: on a consistent. Basis you there are great. Players Obviously

1364
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 7: Drake london is a stud but you, know, yeah they've

1365
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 7: done a lot to weaponize him and from a pre snap,

1366
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 7: standpoint but again it's then there's a long list of

1367
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 7: guys that just were complete. Flameouts the it's one side

1368
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 7: of the field players and he is one that Is

1369
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 7: Chris brazil and it's just like you're you're just is

1370
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 7: not a lot of translatable pro reps. There but there's

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00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 7: no question, that like from an athletic standpoint'm a fluidity,

1372
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 7: standpoint he really shows a lot of like thee. There

1373
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 7: SO i would say probably more of a developmental guy

1374
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 7: that you would take later and hope to, grow not expect, like,

1375
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 7: oh we take him in the second, round we throw

1376
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 7: him out there and great come back to The raiders.

1377
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 7: Team they did that With Dante Thornton junior out Of,

1378
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 7: tennessee AND i was just, like what are you expecting

1379
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 7: to happen? Here you're we're gonna play this, Guy you're

1380
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 7: playing him over the past. Receiver it's it's it's. Insane but,

1381
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 7: yeah a lot of weird things happened.

1382
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: On the football field and around. Town weird things happen

1383
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: In Las. Vegas So i've been Told matt Harmon Yahoo

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: Sports Reception, perception, dude thank you for taking the. Time

1385
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Speaker 3: always a, blasting always good talking to you.

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Speaker 2: Guys good.

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Speaker 3: Show we will be back with more coverage here on

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