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Speaker 1: If you drive an hour and a half west of Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: you'll find Pennsylvania Dutch Country. Some three hundred years ago,

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Speaker 1: Amish and Mennonite people known for their plain dress and

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Speaker 2: They're still here and you can see it. This place.

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Speaker 1: It feels like stepping into an eighteenth century oil painting,

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Speaker 1: and the cornfields have turned brittle in the cooling temperatures.

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Speaker 1: It's really out in the middle of nowhere, got all

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Speaker 3: It's a acting to boonies. They didn't used to be

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Speaker 3: any houses around here. Oh it's just fields, Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: I'm with Ramona Neveno.

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Speaker 1: She was born in Puerto Rico, but she's called Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: Dutch Country home for most of her life. Today she's

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Speaker 1: taking me to a place from her childhood.

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Speaker 3: It'll be this lane up here on the left. See,

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Speaker 3: I hadn't been back here for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: We come to a ranch property once owned by a

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Speaker 1: Mennonite farmer. Ramona used to live here, well sort of.

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Speaker 1: We walked to the back of the property where we

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Speaker 1: find a shack, a chicken house, as Ramona affectionately calls it.

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Speaker 3: We came here in nineteen fifty two where it was,

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Speaker 3: you know, fixed up so that we could live in it.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, since I was so young, it didn't

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Speaker 3: really bother me that this was such a small place

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Speaker 3: because this was made for chickens, not for humans.

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Speaker 1: It's a rectangular structure. The size and shape reminds me

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Speaker 4: I don't know if this one's open or not. I

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Speaker 2: Wow, there's just hay in here.

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Speaker 4: This is just be the bedroom.

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Speaker 2: How big do you think this space is?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Why?

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Speaker 4: Maybe ten by thirteen? You think? I can't believe that

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Speaker 1: Ramona's family moved to Pennsylvania Dutch Country when she was

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Speaker 1: economic hardship following the Great Depression. Many who came to

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Dutch Country worked on Mennonite farms and lived in

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Speaker 1: converted barns and chicken houses, and as US citizens, Puerto

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Speaker 1: many chose to remain Stateside. For Ramona, there was life

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Speaker 1: before this chicken house and life after. The clothes she wore,

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Speaker 1: the food she ate, the religion she practiced, the communities

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Speaker 1: she would become part of, It would all change. Ramona

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Speaker 1: and many other Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania Dutch Country just

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Speaker 1: like her, would eventually forge a unique cultural identity today

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Speaker 1: known as Duerto Ricans.

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Speaker 5: From Futuro Media and PRX, It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria Rosa.

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Speaker 5: Today we take a trip to Pennsylvania Dutch Country where

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Speaker 5: we meet Puerto Ricans who call it home. Stories about

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Speaker 5: of sacrifice, where people have to give up or embrace

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Speaker 5: in pursuit of opportunity, stability, safety, all of those things.

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Speaker 5: And this feels especially relevant today when Latinos, Latinas, and

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Speaker 5: LATINX people are being targeted across the United States. This

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Speaker 5: tension is central to the story of Duto Ricans, the

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Speaker 5: Puerto Ricans who have been living among Pennsylvania's Men and

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Speaker 5: i Can communities since the nineteen forties. Now you won't

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Speaker 5: faced unique challenges and a complex relationship with the Mennonite

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Speaker 5: community for about a century. And bringing us this story

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Speaker 5: is producer Sarah McClure. Sarah, Welcome to Latino USA. I

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Speaker 5: am fascinated.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Maria.

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Speaker 5: I've been obsessed with Pennsylvania for a while now and

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Speaker 5: Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania. But this is a completely unique

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Speaker 5: story that I had never heard of. All Right, so

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Speaker 5: it is true that Puerto Ricans are the largest Latino

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Speaker 5: group that live in the state of Pennsylvania according to

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Speaker 5: the United States Census. But it wasn't until you brought

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Speaker 5: Puerto Rican history, which is the Dutch Arecan history. And

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Speaker 5: of course here in New York we know about New Eurekans,

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Speaker 5: but Beakans break it down for us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a fairly new term. I learned about this, actually,

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Speaker 1: Doto Ricans only after speaking with a couple of scholars

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Speaker 6: The name Doto Rican was given to us by this

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Speaker 6: I am not a Puerto Rican, I am a I am.

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Speaker 4: A Doerto Rican. Okay, So that is pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Pedro and the professors basically helped to coin the term

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Speaker 4: I mean that's a great story absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean what we're seeing is this wrecord ignition, I

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Speaker 5: I first learned about Mennonites in Mexico because it's Los

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Speaker 5: Menonitas who make cheese in northern Mexico. But this is

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Speaker 5: a different kind of reality. This is Amish and Mennonites

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Speaker 5: in the state of Pennsylvania. So tell us more about them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Amish and Mennonites share interesting history. During the

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Speaker 1: seventeenth century, they fled religious persecution in Europe, they first

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Speaker 1: across the entire country. Today, the Amish are pretty traditional.

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Speaker 1: They limit their education to the eighth grade avoid modern technology.

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Speaker 2: Brings us to our story today.

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Speaker 5: All right, Sarah, we're gonna hand it over to you.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to hear this piece.

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Speaker 3: What a beautiful day. Oh my gosh, I want to

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Speaker 2: We're nice to see you again.

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Speaker 1: When I arrive at Ramona's house, she's already on the

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Speaker 2: I'm quickly greeted with a hug and a kiss on

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Speaker 1: Late seventies and lives alone, but she isn't lonely. Every

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Speaker 1: Of Ramona's long life, which began in Puerto Rico in

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Speaker 3: My sister was mentally delayed, and she was very frail.

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Speaker 3: My dad, he was horrified when he found out. By

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Speaker 1: Ramona's father was not in Puerto Rico when this happened.

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Speaker 3: Now I would say, papadios, please try me me poppy,

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Speaker 1: When her mother died, Ramona's dad was picking tomatoes for

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Speaker 1: Ramona's father grieved deeply, and his employer noticed.

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Speaker 3: Elmer Pee Weaver Senior said to him that summer, I

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Speaker 4: Would you like to have them with you? And of

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Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty two, five year old Ramona, her younger sister,

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Speaker 1: It was Ramona's first time on a plane.

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Speaker 3: We came to New York because at that time planes

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Speaker 3: It was snowing. Can you imagine this little girl coming

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Speaker 3: It was such a traumatic thing that I still remember.

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Speaker 1: In Puerto Rico, Ramona loved running around in her jones,

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Speaker 3: I started to see these ladies with these strange dresses,

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Speaker 3: They're a cape, so it's a one piece that is

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Speaker 1: Men and knights believed in evangelizing Puerto Ricans. Some even

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Speaker 3: My mom and my dad within the year they were

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Speaker 1: Assimilation sometimes came with confusion.

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Speaker 3: My mom was as shocked as I was, because when

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Speaker 4: Was called a holy kiss.

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Speaker 2: Assimilation also came with loss.

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Speaker 1: Familiar things like cooking on the fogon were renounced.

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Speaker 4: It was hard on my mother.

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Speaker 3: My mother was the one that really saw, you know,

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Speaker 1: Know, and other things stood out to Ramona too.

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Speaker 3: Was kind of strange to see all these people that

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Speaker 5: Ramona learns that adjusting to life in a predominantly white

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Speaker 5: Mennonite culture didn't always come with easy acceptance.

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Speaker 3: They were very loving people, but we couldn't marry them,

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Speaker 5: Stay with us, Yes, welcome back to Latino, USA, and

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Speaker 5: you're listening to today's story about the Dutch Ricans. When

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Speaker 1: As a teenager, Ramona worked for a Mennonite chicken factory.

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Speaker 3: When I was working at Victor Waiver's, which I worked

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Speaker 4: It true that all Puerto Ricans carried knives?

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Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, you should see mine.

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Speaker 4: And of course after our you know a law.

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Speaker 3: That's not true, but that's one of the perceptions they

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Speaker 1: Knives sometimes, though this othering was a lot more personal.

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Speaker 3: They were very loving people. The only thing that hurts

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Speaker 3: We couldn't fall in love with them, and they couldn't

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Speaker 1: She remembers how hard it was for her friends who

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Speaker 3: I remember one friend of Miami fell in love with

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Speaker 1: Ramona knew that dating a Mennonite man was never an option.

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Speaker 7: In the nineteen fifties, the Pennsylvania Dutch Mennonites were thinking, Oh,

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Speaker 7: going to really be Mennonites because they're not going to

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Speaker 1: This is Lebanon Valley College professor John Henshaw. Both he

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Speaker 7: The Mennonite tradition, like any religious tradition, is filled with contradictions.

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Speaker 1: Meaning it didn't make sense that Mennonites welcome to Puerto

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Speaker 1: tension also showed up when it came to housing.

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Speaker 3: When we went to a place, as long as you

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Speaker 1: The first time Ramona met with the landlord to rent

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Speaker 3: And he says, I don't rent to Puerto Ricans, So

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Speaker 1: In the nineteen eighties, when Ramona wanted to purchase a home,

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Speaker 3: I was looking for a home to buy because you know,

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Speaker 3: when I'd say my name, oh you know what, we

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Speaker 4: It's not available anymore.

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Speaker 3: And I thought of doing something like asking one of

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Speaker 4: By that time, I could have probably had a lawsuit.

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Speaker 4: I would do it now.

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Speaker 1: Ramona has a sense of humor about it, but housing

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Speaker 1: discrimination in Pennsylvania Dutch Country has been a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy one, a Puerto Rican couple became the

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that Puerto Ricans transformed the local economy.

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Speaker 1: When Ramona arrived in nineteen fifty two, Pennsylvania had about

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Speaker 2: Temporary farm workers.

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Speaker 1: According to state officials, Puerto Ricans made up roughly half

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Speaker 1: of that number. Puerto Rican labor helped Mennonite farms, factories,

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Speaker 1: It was owned by a Mennonite farmer, Victor F.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty nine, the company was generating one hundred

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Speaker 1: While the region may have been creating a lot of revenue,

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Speaker 1: it didn't change Ramona's life much. For example, it didn't

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Speaker 3: My parents weren't educated and most of the people that

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Speaker 1: Ramona's children did get some opportunities in Pennsylvania Dutch Country.

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Speaker 1: She's grateful for that. One owns a construction company and another,

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Speaker 1: be seen in Dutrican exhibits and historical events. There are

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Speaker 1: all divisions lessened between Puerto Rican and Mennonite communities. Bilingual

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Speaker 1: Mennonite churches were founded to serve the growing Spanish speaking

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Speaker 3: Eventually they did get married and had seven kids that

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Speaker 1: It's a special day, Ramona has invited me to church,

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Speaker 1: her Mennonite church. Today, she's reclaimed her Deuto Rican history

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Speaker 3: The then and I Leaver said, we came, would call

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Speaker 1: Ramona is also sharing her history through photos. Tables with

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Speaker 1: photo shows Romona with a friend. They're both wearing a

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Speaker 1: Mennonite cape dress, except Ramona have paired her outfit with

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Speaker 1: I love this picture of her where she's wearing her

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Speaker 2: Love it in her cape.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the very classic traditional dress still worn by

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Speaker 1: Does this make you interested in learning a little bit

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: I do have some family members who who did mission

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Speaker 1: These Mennonite missionaries esthers talking about have actually been in

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Speaker 1: the evangelize them and their families. For Puerto Ricans, the

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Speaker 1: This is how Ramona's life eventually came into contact with

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Speaker 4: My heart was always thrown.

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Speaker 1: Thank you bring it out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we can stronger than the Oh I used

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Speaker 1: Ramona and I are taking out a framed piece of

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Speaker 1: A It's actually a piece of wall from the Chicken

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Speaker 1: Ramona has placed a black and white photo of him

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 1: In the photo, he's holding a Bible.

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Speaker 3: That was my dad at the house. He loved to

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Speaker 1: Argallio died in two thousand and four, but this wall

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Speaker 1: Many Puerto Ricans working on Mennonite farms, like Argallio, they

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Speaker 1: Ramona reathes from the seventy year old cracked wall.

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Speaker 3: There hasn't been a Puerto Rican that has judged me,

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Speaker 1: The passage is very spiritual and personal. His message just

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Speaker 3: It's very different from what I grew up with. They're

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Speaker 5: join us again for our next episode. In the meantime,

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Speaker 5: look for us on all of your social media. I'll

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Speaker 5: see you anin stagnam iyatusavis no tevayas Chao.

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Speaker 2: Latino USA is made possible in part by La Tau Foundation,

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Speaker 2: New York Women's Foundation, the New York Women's Foundation funding

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Speaker 2: women leaders that build solutions in their communities, and celebrating thirty.

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Speaker 8: Years of radical generosity and funding for Latino USA is.

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Speaker 2: Coverage of a culture of health is made possible in

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Speaker 2: part by a grant from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.