WEBVTT - Brian Peters Chasing Edges 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:03.840 Good to go. 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:08.640 Ready, clap clap, clap action. This is another episode of 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.559 Busting with the Boys. I am your host, William Merrol 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.240 Kompton third. My co host today is he goes by 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:16.400 the name Brian. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.720 Peters, Brian Edward Peters. Before we get. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.759 Into the episode and get into Brian and his background 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:23.680 and everything else, I have to let you guys know 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.680 this episode is brought to you by the one the 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:31.680 only Chevy Silverado. Shoutouts Chevy Silverado, no free shoutouts, the strongest, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:36.760 most advanced Silverado ever. 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We went to the dealership. We've already 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.560 told you the story plenty of times. That boy he's 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.880 parked in and what is it called the ridge, Rocky 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.280 Rocky Ridge, the Rocky Ridge, Chevy Silverado, and your boy 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.759 over here. Fortunately they hooked him up with a high 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.360 Country Silverado. Brian, Are you a big Chevy? Are you 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.160 a big Chevy guy? 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.920 I had a Chevy Tahoe for about eight years. Yeah, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.560 so I'm a Chevy guy. Did to treat you well, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.160 treat me great, and then drowned in the Harvey flood 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.880 really out of Texas. Yeah, got water up to the windshield. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.480 And then Chevy probably helped you out and got you 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:43.880 out of that mess and probably hooked you up with 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.000 another Chevy. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:45.480 Something like that. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.680 But scrappy, scrappy, gritty, all the lunch pale stuff you 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.680 can think of. Go to a Chevy dealership near you, 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.680 let him know the boy sent you, and take a 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.880 video show your friends. But hey, this episode we're brought 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:04.160 to you by Chevy. Now we're gonna sit in chat 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.080 with the old boy. Brian Peters. Brian, your background. You 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.600 went to the Universe or you went to Northwestern University. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:11.840 You're a nerd. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:16.480 You went you are a transitional safety that went to linebacker, 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.280 that moved to linebacker in the league. Before you got 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:24.120 to the league, you were in Arena Football, Canadian Football. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.160 UFL in between there, I got. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.400 I got so you were the UFL in between Arena and. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.239 Yeah, I did like training camp and I got cut 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.560 from from the UF. You got cut in the UFL, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.440 the league I didn't want to be in. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.919 Yeah, and then you went up to Canada. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.600 Canada, Yeah, Canadia. Yeah, Yeah, they'll they'll fix you if 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:41.120 you cracked that. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.360 And then you finally made it at what age to 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:44.920 the NFL. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.840 I was a twenty six year old rookie with the 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.720 Minnesota Vikings. Holy shit, dude, yeah, madness. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.679 The reason I wanted to have Brian on Obviously he's 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.120 gritty and all this type of shit, But the dude is, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.880 you have a perspective, a work ethic. You have a 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.359 lot of shit. So Brian and I met each other 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.200 through like a doctor. We both like consult with a trainer. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:06.640 He helps with like when we go and get our 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.160 blood work checked out, nutrients, any deficiencies we have, any 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:14.240 injuries we have. I saw Brian's jersey hanging the WALMA, like, oh, 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.600 do you know Brian. You know Brian Peters asking the 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.520 doctor doctor Serrano, shout out doctor Serrano, no free shoutouts. Yeah, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.120 it's a fucking Puerto Rican. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:21.480 He said. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.679 Yeah, he's thinking, hey, no, disrespected the Puerto Rican shout 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.519 out to perto Ricans. But doctor Serrano is a crazy 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:32.160 Porto Rican. He's a mad genius, a scientist with supplements. Yeah, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:37.280 and uh, somebody will Brian's like my son, and uh, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.120 you know, I had respected Brian from AFAR because he 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.520 was a captain for the Houston Texans, which we're going 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.040 to get in all that stuff because I think it's 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.520 incredible that you arena football cut now that we know 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.160 from the UFL Canadian Football NFL, you become a captain 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.400 amongst like a roster filled with like you know, all 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.480 the savages, JJ Watt, the. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.960 Hop we had Tyranne, you had some j Jo Jonathan Joe. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.800 So if we have dogs on that team, yeah. 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.200 Yeah, and you can follows it. What's your Instagram. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.200 Brian underscore Peters ten. You can check out all. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.960 His shirtless photos on Brian Underscore Peters ten. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.720 Up to your neck and the eyes anything but yeah, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.480 at the end of the day, the only jealous. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.320 I can't look like that, you know what I mean, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:20.880 Maybe at some point in time when I can put 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.800 the food down, I actually have some discipline and not 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.520 go into the pantry at night with the munchies, you 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.440 know what I mean. Those Trader Joe's dark chocolate peanut buttercups. 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.480 They hit those dark chocolate covered almonds. I'm a big 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.720 chocolate guy at the end of the night. What are 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:44.200 you talking about? What is it? Just Brian flex and 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.120 most muskyther and I just shoot all the eyes to 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.359 Oh my god, you can see a. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.960 Garrett All laughing. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.240 He's like, fuck, I'm missing it. But dude, where it 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.919 even start? I mean, let's talk about why in the 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.360 you'd play Arena football? 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.599 Oh dude, it so. I mean it started on draft day, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.120 like obviously, like I'm training for the Combine and didn't 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.640 get invite to the Combine. Like I had a good 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.840 senior season. I was playing safety at the time. I 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.279 led the big tenant interceptions that year, Like thought I 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.840 had a chance at least to get it, like undrafted, uh, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.039 free agent deal something along those lines. Draft day rolls on, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.080 I get zero phone calls. I get the only person 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.160 that called me on draft day was my agent, and 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.280 Pat Fitzgerald asked me, like what the deal was. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.600 And you, uh, sorry interrupt, but you had the most interceptions, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:33.799 you were coming off the most. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.800 You said something, you had a stat getting off. 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.760 I led the big tenant interceptions, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.800 so like at least like some kind of look for 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.800 like a roommate. Some plays had a hunter tackle like 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.520 that kind of deal, Like I thought I had a chance. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.000 Like I'm not saying, like, you can't even get a 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.240 rookie mini camp tryout now. So so so as the 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.520 story rolls on, So like four days later, we had 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.960 a Northwestern guy down in the Buccaneers training camp and 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.400 he got me in for like the tryout and their 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.719 mini camp. And their mini camp was crazy because it 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.440 was Schiano's first year down there. Oh I I've never 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.760 heard good things, dude, Savage. So like, so it's a 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.040 three day mini camp and we're running two A days 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:10.960 and so we got to two A days and then 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.240 one more practice, but we're doing strength and conditioning in 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.760 between the two days so we hit a workout, or 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.680 so we hit a practice, then we did a workout 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.400 and we run hundreds during at the end of the workout, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:23.960 and then we go out for a second practice. So 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.680 I'm playing safety at this point. Second practice, we have 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.120 three linebackers pop hamstring. So I go down and play 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.240 sam linebacker because I was the biggest safety. You're gonna 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.680 have some soft tissue injuries too, Yeah, fucking yeah. Little overtraining, 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.000 a sprinkle of overtraining. So I switched down to sam 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.800 backer and ended up holding my own. I had Brian Cox. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.320 He's an old dog from oh I saw good videos. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.159 he's either he's a he's a saucy motherfucker. He's a stud. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.440 But like that was like my first lesson and like 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.440 showing like I had a good camp. They're like, hey, 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.240 you come back here and you gain twenty pounds that 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.479 kind of deal. So I was like, all right, I 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.599 got a chance to get signed. I'm leaving feeling pretty good. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.440 And I had like another work out the following weekend 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.960 for the Bears mini camp, and they like that was 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.279 like but like so down in Tampa. That was Mark 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.120 Baron's rookie year. So he was like a safety that 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.960 came in and did they end up having like another 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.400 undrafted freegent sign that kind of thing. Anyways, long story short, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.160 they didn't sign me, but I got like my first 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.640 lesson on like how to show up for a workout 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.480 and that kind of thing. Brian Cox was a savage. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.880 He's like basically saying, like, any chance you have a 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.720 time to show your physical show effort. He goes, never 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.400 lose that. Because there's like a time I met this 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.160 full back in a hole and it was tag off 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.800 and like I tagged off. He goes, would you hit 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.920 him there? I was like, I was like, yeah, of 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.960 course I would have dropped him. And he goes, no, 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.680 we're not in pads with just some helmets. And he 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.440 goes he goes, I don't know that. He goes, never 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.560 passed up an opportunity to fuck up, fuck up a dude. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:44.840 I was like, and that's stuck in the back of 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.240 my mind. And that showed up up in the CFL. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.920 But like from there, went to the Bears work Bears 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.840 tryout and did I bawled like I had two picks 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.720 in the mini camp. They had this third round draft 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.320 pick that he didn't pan Out. He was out of 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.640 the league in like two years, but like outplayed him. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.560 Thought I had a chance. But like that was those 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.720 two camps, Like they showed that I could They told 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:03.920 me in the back of my head I could play, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.920 like I knew I could play now, So like that's 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.480 why I went through all these other leagues. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.200 So that's why you're hanging. You're like, yeah, I'll I'll 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:10.960 see this through. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.840 Yeah, but so like so now I'm back in Northwestern 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.800 I'm living on a couch behind my or I'm living 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.800 on a bed behind my buddy's couch in their apartment 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.360 in like northern Chicago, and uh, and I'm working oddjobs 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.240 on personal training kids. Uh dude, I'm babysitting, like I'm 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.920 doing demolition for this this hockey player and his family 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.000 and just getting getting by. And I'm training at this 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:37.439 scrappy phenomenal gym, this boxing gym, and the basement at 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.520 ten pm at night. So I'm popping pre workout at 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.439 nine point thirty, going to this basement, getting it done, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.280 waking up in the morning, going back doing again. Make 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.600 money enough to get by. And so my agent, like 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.680 nobody's saying anything, so he sends me out for the 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.960 summer to arena football the Iowa Barnstormers where Kurt Warner played. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.160 Shout out the Iowa Barnstormers. Yeah, shout out the Iowa Barnstormers. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.160 But they so my agine goes go out there, like 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.960 play for a few weeks, stay in shape in case 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.160 NFL calls. And I was like, all right, bet, So 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.600 I get out there. I drive out to Des Moines, Iowa, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.480 and I get there and like I'm I already think 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.520 I'm on the team. And I get out there and 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.840 it's a thirteen man tryout for two spots for like 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.120 to end out the season. So I'm like, well, let's right. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.839 I end out the season of an arena football team. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.120 Yep. So I get there and it's thirteen man tryout, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.000 end up making the team, me and one other kid, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.520 and so out there getting paid three hundred bucks a 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.880 week before Texas to play football. Dude. Some of the 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.800 most fun football they were playing in my life though, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:30.679 So is that. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.959 Just because it's just like I just freedom. It's like 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:34.480 keep playing high school ball again, dude. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.079 I was playing this jack linebacker position where I start 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.840 on what like the short side of the field, and 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.200 my only job is that you check run and then 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.240 you run horizontal and hit anybody of any other the 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.640 other team's color. And you're smashing dudes in the walls. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.360 Like you're launching dudes over the wall. There's people pouring 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.040 beer on you. Like I'm talking more shit to the 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.800 fans and I'm talking to the players. It was so 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.520 much fun, phenomenal. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.160 So what were the fans like, are they just like 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.000 trying to drag you a little? 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.200 But everybody's chirping you and like like there's people like 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.080 on dates. It's just it's like a it's a cool 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.920 environment because you can hear and then like there's people 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.400 right behind your bench talking the whole time. So it 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.480 was fun. It was It was a good experience. And 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.080 then for three hundred bucks. For three hundred bucks a week, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.840 and I mean they they covered like an extended stay too, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.480 so like it's a little we'll call it even seven 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.840 hundred a week. But uh so then went went back 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.840 like it was working and training in Chicago still and 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.240 then my agent got me a tryout with the UFL. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.160 So I went out with the Omaha Nighthawks. Uh shout 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:32.200 out Nebraska. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.600 Yeah, shut out in Nebraska. I think there were some 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:34.920 of the boys that were out there playing on the 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.040 Omaha Nighthawks. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.679 Yeah, I can the only like Maurice Clarett was there 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:39.840 for a couple of days and like that was the 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.520 last I heard of him. But he but anyways, like 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.760 went out on a tryout, made the team, came back 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.360 to Chicago for a week, then went back out for 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.959 training camp. And at that time, SO went through training camp, 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.839 had a good training camp, and then NFL had their cuts. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.320 They picked up all the loose NFL guys, so cut 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.319 half the roster. I was out of there, crushed, thought 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.280 like my foot all career was over because my agent 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.240 wasn't saying shit. And then I came back to Chicago 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.679 like kind of kept training. My agent was just like like, 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.880 we don't want to go to Canada because you have 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.800 to sign a two year deal all like I said, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.360 I was like, I'm I want to play football, and 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.280 you get back to the NFL. So he sends out 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.520 lines to his CFL contacts and NFL again hang on 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:20.680 slow down. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.640 So how long were you in the arena circuit? Like 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:25.760 you're still kind of in it right now? 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:25.880 Right? 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.680 No, no, no, So arena's done. Arena was like four 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.520 or five weeks. So at what point of the year 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.280 is Arena playing. I think that was June, so like then, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.280 so you're in June about to go into the new 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.559 NFL training Yeah, so like the next season, so I 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.040 guess it was July. No, so July, so my rookie, 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.599 so that was twenty twelve I came out, ye, and 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:47.200 so yeah, so probably July. And then whenever cuts are 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.000 in football August yeah yeah, so like so it's probably 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.640 middle of July to August. And because of then, yeah, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.960 so then there's a week week or ten day break 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.520 before the UFL. I was in the UFL for two weeks. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.120 NFL had their cuts wash the board. So now NFL 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.360 is starting, I'm hearing nothing from NFL or CFL, and 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.599 the CFL is wrapping up their season. CFL is a 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:13.160 summer league. So my agent gets crickets. I go, dude, 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.599 give me everybody's emails, all email them from my perspective. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.439 So I email say, hey, Brian Peters, I'll be a 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.120 dog for you. It's it's trash when I look back 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.640 at it now. I still got the email too, It's 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.560 so I read it every now and then. For like Jews, 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.480 but yeah like juice yeah, like yeah, so just the 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.400 like motivate me, like makee shit happen once I can 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:35.520 do it again kind of deal. And then so I 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.920 email all the CFL guys, all the NFL guys. One 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.240 team response to Sketching Rough riders like I had my 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:41.520 highlight tape and crap on. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.800 There, and then like yea, all be a dog for you. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:48.199 Check the tape. Yeah, check the tape. Yeah you want 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:48.760 to check tape? 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.520 What movie is that? That's the I don't know, couple's retreat. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:52.280 You want to check tape? 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:52.480 Yeah. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.000 Yeah, we're talking about full back being like a being 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.959 like an all say high school full back. Yeah, but 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.320 uh so that anyways, Sketching Rough responded and then responded 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.480 to me. So then they never even talked to my 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.760 agent at the time, so they said, hey, yeah, come up, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.400 we'll throw you on practice squad and you can sign 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:08.839 a deal after that. So I was like bet so 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.880 I talked to my agent. He negotiated my contract really quick, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.000 which was their minimum, and then went up there, which 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.000 is showing Canadian highlights right now, Oh here we go. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.960 Brian Peters, who has in fourteen defensive highlights. You'll see 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.800 some linebackers, some safety on here. I did a little 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.560 bit of everything up there. I see just getting nasty 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.120 a little bit. Oh you go, Daddy got in there. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:40.079 Daddy got in there. I love that. But anyway, so 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.280 I went up there, and then this is where, like, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.320 this is where I started getting seered to doctor Serrano. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.000 So I got, how old are you me? I'm twenty five, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.520 twenty six. I'm twenty five about to turn twenty six, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.360 and twenty six is a death birthday for me. So 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.280 I go up there. I'm on their practice squad for 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.240 a couple of weeks and I signed my two year contract. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.439 So this is for thirteen fourteen. And so the day 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.000 I get back is a Thursday. It's my birthday Halloween. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.800 So I get back and like one of my birthdays 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.640 on Halloween, my birthdays on Halloween, we're a big Spootober podcast. 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:15.040 Oh big, Like we're big spootob guy. Okay, big dress 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.599 up party for the birthday kind of guy. But I 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.160 get back and my buddy Jeremy Ebert just got cut 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.920 by the Patriots, and so he was in town. He's 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.640 got money in his pocket. He goes, let's go out 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.280 for your birthday dude. He was my college roommate for 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.240 four years. And so we go out from and all 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:30.840 my other buddies couldn't make it out because it had 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.520 worked the next day. So me and him go out. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.360 We get rowdy, and I end up getting jumped by 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.120 three bouncers. So I get like, what you do? 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:38.800 Uh? 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.600 Look, yeah, I ended up getting jumped by three bouncers. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.520 It sounds ramadic, But what did you do? 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.680 Yeah, it was not. It was not uninstigated, but uh no. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.960 So all right, so like I like the dance when 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.480 I go out that I was prevacive with that. So 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.520 we're at this bar, I know the DJ at the 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.920 bar's in Columbus, and I'm dancing on stage with some 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.680 girls having a great time. Bouncer comes over, weighs me down. 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.960 He goes, no guys dance on stage. I go all right, 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.440 so come on. Yeah, So I jumped down off stage 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.560 and like I proceed to like walk to the bar, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.160 grabs my arm, pulls me back. He goes, no, you're 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.800 out of here, dude, and I go for dancing on stage. Obviously, 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.640 I give him a little little attitude and he uh 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.040 and ends up kicking me out. I go peacefully. I 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.600 was like, just don't grab my arm, Like, I go 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.080 out peacefully, and I'm not rock rocked at this point. 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.920 So and at this time these there's three bars that 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.680 are connected by inside doors. So I go and go 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.880 into another bar, and I walk back into the bar 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.960 and join my people. This goes on for a few 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.000 more hours. The boys are drinking and drinking, and we 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:41.600 get to the point where I'm buying shots at the 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.560 bar and pretty saut up got like my buddy and 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.960 a group of girls with us, and I'm ordering shots. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.560 Uh people start to grab the shots as I'm buying them, 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.320 and like, I turn around and there's we don't have 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.760 enough shots. So I start politely our drink with the bar. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:00.600 I was like, man, we don't have enough shots, and 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.560 she goes, yeah, we do. Like you're just being drunk, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.160 which I was, and then she waves over the bouncer, 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.080 same bouncer they kicked me out the first time. And 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.800 so I'm so, I'm dressed as it's Halloween. I'm dressed 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.720 as Batman and he goes, oh, Batman's back. He goes 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:20.600 Batman's back, and uh so, anyways, this time they don't 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.680 take me out the front door. Him and two other 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.160 bouncers escort me out the back door. He my buddy 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.280 at the time. He sees me arguing with these bouncers 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.320 at the back door. He runs over. He goes, we're 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.520 leaving guys. We're leaving guys. And then he goes, I'm 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.120 calling our ride. We're out of here. So he goes 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.800 out the back door first, and the back doors like 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.760 connects alley to the street, and then so and then 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.280 more so their security can put each other too. But 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.040 so I turn around and I try and get the 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.240 last word with the bouncers. Didn't work out. My last word, 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.040 no clue. I was your boy was a little great 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.720 out at this point, but like, so get the last word, 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.880 walk out, and then next thing I know, someone's trying 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.040 to rear naked me from behind. I turned into some punches. 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.920 I'm down on the ground. I'm out. My buddy runs back, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.320 jump like jumps, push the guys off. Guys go back inside. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.359 But so we get in the car and luckily his 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.399 cousin that was picking us up, is it. Yeah, I 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.240 was like, I was t K I was down, and 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.200 my buddy turns around and said he saw me getting 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.040 stomped out and yeah, so I got like I got cut, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:22.560 yeah batman. But so, but so like that's where again 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.320 another time where I thought football was gone too. But 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.439 so we get in the car and like his cousins 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.280 in dental school and like checks me out, my teeth 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.920 are moving, my jaws moving, My jaws broke. So I 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.399 go to the hospital, uh and ended up getting surgery 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.680 that night on your jaw, on my jaw, So I 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.680 have a plate and seven screws in my jaw and 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.159 they uprooted a bunch of teeth, so I have like 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:46.240 I have like ten fake teeth on the bottom, like 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.040 I had a flipper, like the whole time in Canada, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.960 I had flip out teeth. So like I told her, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:56.879 I was a hockey player. But yeah, so you you 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.720 legit get sucking like I get wrecked. You fucked. Yeah, 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:05.320 I spend I spend seven weeks wired shut, thirty hours 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.159 in the dentist chair like that kind of stuff. But 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.520 but so that night, so like obviously like I'm here 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.159 with doctor Toronto a little bit at this point, and 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.880 my mom calls him at like three in the morning says, hey, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.000 Brian got jumped, like he needs like surgery tonight, that 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.520 kind of thing. Toronto calls this doctor, this oral surgeon. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.640 She comes in from like two hours away at three 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.240 in the morning to do the surgery kills it I 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.119 have any problems like that kind of thing, but like 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.560 at the time, like they're like, your mandibles are cracked, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.439 really weird, all this stuff like you might you might 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.080 not be able to play football again. So I'm like 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.840 fuck like like I'm like I did this to myself. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.160 Are you still in the Batman costume? 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.000 No? I did not wake up in the Batman costume. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.520 They let me go into surgery like that. But but 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.879 so anyways, uh wake up, Like i spend like a 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.560 week on the couch. I'm I dropped fifteen twenty pounds 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.160 really fast. I'm sipping liquid percocet like a juice box. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.440 And doctor Toronto comes over and he goes like, get 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.879 off your ass, you pussy. He and so like, so 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.600 I'm over there. No, he's a man, and and he 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.920 like he cares more than anybody, which is really cool. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.320 Like he like he's he's a tough dude, but he cares. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.160 So I started training with him for the last six weeks. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.119 I was wired shut and by the end of that 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:17.280 six weeks, I was ship. I was almost up to 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.720 like linebacker weight, so I gained more weight than I lost. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.600 I was the strongest I've ever been because like, but 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.000 I was, I mean, I was drinking everything, like I was, dude. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.080 I was blending up steaks, I was blending up cookies. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.720 I was blending up Chipotle. So like my diet was 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.760 like three liter cups and I was just drinking my 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.320 entire diet and made it happen, and supplements and everything 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.479 but bananas. So yeah, it's super crazy. But anyways, uh 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.680 from there, that's fucking nuts. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. Yeah yeah, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.600 but I mean that's I did. I did to myself. 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.600 I got your boy got a little too crazy and 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.200 well yeah, yeah for sure, but I still didn't deserve 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:49.600 that ship. 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.000 Yeah, like nobody's gonna be, you know, blending up steaks 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.040 and Chipotle and thinking about getting their way back. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.880 Yeah, but so like kind of at this point now, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.080 like I like I I kept training with them and 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:02.720 that kind of thing, and then eventually went back and 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.359 did northwesterns Pro Day the following year, and I was 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.399 switching the linebacker at this point. Now is gonna go 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.480 play some linebacker safety in Canada. And since I didn't 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:11.840 get a shot at safety, I'm gonna try and play 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.480 linebacker because I know I can play. And so I 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.680 go to the Pro day. I run faster, jump higher, 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.760 like all my numbers are better, even though I gained 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.320 twenty pounds. So and that's where like now, like I 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.959 see the relationship between the leg strength, the supplements, all 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:27.960 these things. So I start to go and like I 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.120 started to get like addicted to the to the gym 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.720 into like bettering myself and chasing these edges to be 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.359 just to be better and get the shot that I wanted. 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.159 So I go up to Canada, and low key I 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:39.720 got cut from Canada and they put me on Pea 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.840 squad for a little bit. And then in the story 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.240 and so the only reason I got active the first 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.560 time in Canada so that in Canada football fields longer 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.000 and wider and the field goal is on the goal line. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.200 So this one of our other like our weekside linebacker 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.480 was covering this post route and runs into the field 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:00.479 goal and breaks his collar bone. And so I get 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.119 an opportunity to be active and start eating on special 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:07.480 teams up there and eventually earn the starting spot on defense, 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.320 play another year up there and get the opportunity to 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.920 come back to uh the NFL with the with the Vikings. 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:15.680 But that was a whole another mess in and of 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.160 itself because I get back or sorry, I'm at home 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:22.840 after my contract and the the the rough Riders call 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.360 me and say, hey, who's your agent because they don't 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:31.520 remember because I initially initially made the contact. Yeah. So anyways, 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.200 they're like, like, the the Eagles and the Saints want 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.120 to work you out. So I was like, all right, cool, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.720 like put them in touch with my agent. I work 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:40.200 out for the teams, but I work out for the 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:44.119 Eagles first, have a really good workout, and they they 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:45.760 do your blood work and X rays and all that 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.760 kind of stuff at the workouts, and they go, hey, 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.480 something's wrong with your blood work. It's probably it's probably 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.719 a lab air, but uh go get your blood work 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:57.479 tested to get and sent to us. And I'm a Serano, 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.359 so uh I was like, Doc, like, I say, I 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.520 have low blood platelets and I go, I don't know 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.800 what that means. And he goes, oh shit. He goes 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.520 like low blood plates usually means cancer and all these 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.119 kind of crazy things. So we'll go get a ton 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.119 of test done. But eventually I find out I have 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.560 this rare blood condition called itp idio thrumbo side opinia 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:19.080 and explained low blood paga idio thrombo side opinia. But 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.360 it's just unexplained low blood platelets, and like, so basically yeah, 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:27.320 so yeah, but so, but basically, like, I'm very susceptible 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.520 to like gunshots and stab wounds. I'll probably die if 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.640 I get shot or stabbed. A lot of people would. 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.639 Yeah, yeah, I'm very susceptible to gunshots. 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:36.480 Yeah, a lot of us are. 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:40.720 We interrupt this episode to bring you a message from 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.000 Better Help. The best way to think about therapy is 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.480 through a bunch of analogies. We get our cars tuned 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.920 up to prevent bigger issues down the road. 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I got to the 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.080 I found out enough about it down the road once 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.760 because I so like I made the mistake of going 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:54.880 to the Saints for the next workout and I killed 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.320 the next workout like ran high four five like shuttled 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.640 like in the like six seven again like three cone 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.800 shuttle that kind of thing, like good workout. I had 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.560 their pro personnel guy, Terry Fontau, like saying, hey, we're 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.639 gonna sign you. I was like bet, like I'm I 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:09.720 got a shot in the NFL. And then he goes, 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.719 but we gotta get but you have this blood thing. 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.000 We gotta get that figured out. Like we've never had 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.800 this before. So like he's like, we'll link you with 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.400 our hematologists, our blood doctor, and we'll figure it out. 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.119 Don't hear anything for them for a few weeks, and 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.560 the CFL starts calling their freeency opened and so up there, 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.159 like the money goes fast. So like basically every day 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:29.960 of freegency up there, I'm losing like ten grand a 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.240 day if I'm going back to the CFL. My agent 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.639 can't get a hold of anybody in New Orleans. So 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:37.520 and I have this other agent call me asking me 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.840 about my contract in there because he's got another guy 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.919 that's negotiating. We're trying to drive the price up all 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:46.000 this stuff. Anyways, like this agent was like more speaking 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.879 my language. My other agent wasn't doing shit. So I 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.080 fired the other agent, which I should have done years before. 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.399 But and so he gets me in touch with the Saints, 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.280 gets me phone down there, but they're gonna have me 0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.720 sign an injury waiver where if I don't if I 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:04.880 don't heal on any like any injury concussion, pulled hamstring, sprain, finger, whatever, 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.440 I don't heal on their timeline, they can cut me 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.480 without pay, no injury settlements and that kind of stuff, 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.440 and which was trash. And so that agent was like no, 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.560 and we're still talking to them. And then I switched 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.760 agents and that agent got me three workouts in twenty 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.679 four hours. So that's the first time was like, oh, 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.200 agents do kind of matter. Yeah, they do matter, like 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.959 their connections matter. And then a couple of days later, 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.000 I worked out for the Vikings. Didn't tell them about 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.160 my blood condition. They never even noticed in my blood 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.000 work and that kind of thing. Had a good off 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.600 season with them. Love Minneapolis, really cool locker room up there. 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:39.480 They put me on Pea Squad. I'm twenty I know 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.400 it's a shit show of the story, but I'm twenty six. 0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.080 All this happens from the moment you get yet on 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.679 your birthday, yeah, twenty three to twenty five, Yeah, yeah Jesus. 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.880 So anyway, so I get to Minnesota, and that's why 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:53.600 I link up my guy Harvey, who we have the 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.080 mind Strong project with now the Breathing Company. 0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:00.119 But so I'm there link with him. But uh, they 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.520 put me on Pea squad. I was on peace squad 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.000 there for three weeks and like and then on like 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.840 a Tuesday, I'm at like a charity event for the Vikings, 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:09.239 and I get a call and my agent said, hey, 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.520 the Texans want to sign you. Go to the airport 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.159 and like, I have a flight in three and a 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.280 half hours, So like, I hustle home, leave my car there, 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.000 all that kind of stuff and hang on. 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.920 So you made the you you were in Vikings training camp. 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.640 No, I was like, I was in Vikings training camp, 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:26.639 and they put me on practice squad when the right So. 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:28.879 When the season is done, they cut you and put 0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.440 you on practic squad. You're there for the first three 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:34.280 weeks yep. Which season is this twenty fifteen twenty fifteen season? 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.919 And then in three weeks your agent calls Texans want 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.240 you to sign active. 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.320 Yep with them? Yep. All right, and so and the 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.119 kind of the little dance I went through here now 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.240 is if somebody signed you off practice squad, they have 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.159 to keep you active for three games to give you 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.080 an accredited season yep. And so however much money that 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.160 equates to. But the Vikings want me to stay there too, 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.639 so they offered me full salary guaranteed to stay there 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:01.200 for the whole you're on practice squad, and they said 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:02.639 they'd get me up as soon as they could to 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.720 active roster. So I'm sitting at the airport trying to 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.920 make the decision whether to stay for half a mil 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.000 or go and play three games for whatever twenty K 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.680 game or whatever it equates to. And so I'm sitting 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.680 there like trying to make decision. I have equity build 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.120 up there, the coaches know me whatever. The same story 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:18.840 with all those guys. 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.600 Yeah, for everybody listening to, like when you're on peace 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.600 squad and you're like a You're a solid player that 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.879 they know can potentially develop or get activated for them, 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.440 but they know they can hide you on practice squad 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.399 until somebody finds you. That's essentially what happened with Brian 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.159 is the Texas society, you know, we want this kid now. 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:37.280 The Vikings have to Now Brian has leverage to leave. 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.960 So what they would do is offer that salary style 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:43.800 pay so you can play like you're on the active 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.120 roster but stay on practice squad, and then they'll throw 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:47.920 everything in the toolshit at you. Be like, you know 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.000 you have a good reputation here, you have good relationships here, 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:54.240 We'll get you up as soon as we can. Like 0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:57.679 it's all negotiating, it's all like yeah, mind games. 0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:01.480 Yeah it's but it's empty promise correct. Yes. And so 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.720 I got to the point where one of my buddies 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.560 hit me with a line that was just a switch 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.680 for me. I called Dan Percy, is a quarterback in 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.520 Northwestern with me, and he goes, Dude, you spent three 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.119 years in three different leagues to play in the NFL, 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.600 not practice in the NFL. I was like, yeah, let's 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.680 try good. I'm on the plane and so I and 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.280 I've been talking to my mom and my brother and 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.080 my buddies and that kind of thing during this whole deal. 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.760 And I get on the plane, my uh my parents 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.399 call me and they're like, you know what, me and 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.320 your dad talked. We think you should stay in Minnesota. 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.159 I was like, I was like, Dad, I'm on the plane. 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.520 They're like, okay, Like we're more conservative you than that 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.600 conservative conservative than you anyways, Like good luck. So I 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:39.200 go down there, start playing Week four down there and 0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.320 put like put together like a great season I was. 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.560 I led the NFL and special teams tackles with twelve 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.360 games played, so like I like got their kind of 0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.280 like there you get their attention. Yeah, kid, got their attention. 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.240 Got leverage, and like the leverages everything in the NFL, 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.120 Like I mean, how many times did you have leverage 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:55.680 on a team to know like, yeah, they're gonna they're 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.480 gonna sign me back, or know that you like you're 0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.480 adding enough value that they're going to keep you right, Like. 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.120 The injury waiver stuff was the same situation I've explained 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.720 before on the podcast. But when I went and tried 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.719 out for Oakland and they wanted to sign me, they 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.720 had an injury waiver sitting in front of me being 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.840 like if anything on my like my right leg, anything 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.280 on my right leg gets damaged, they can cut me, 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.840 wash their hands, not have to rehab me, not have 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.200 to pay for any surgery. Like if I tore my ACL, 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:22.720 they don't have to pay for it. They can just 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.320 cut me and do away with it. And I was 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.760 able to be like, you know, I don't want to 0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.520 do that, Like I'm gonna leave. Do you mind getting 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.520 me a flight back to Nashville, Like yeah, we can 0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.080 get that set up. Pre I'm sorry it didn't work out. 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.200 Twenty minutes later, they walk back in like, hey, May 0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:35.720 outcomes in. 0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:35.920 Hey. 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:37.800 He's like, hey, if we do away with this injury waiver, 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.880 would you sign. I'm like yeah, He's like, let's make 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.920 it happen. So it's just crazy how that kind of 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.320 stuff works. Like if you have a little bit of 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.880 leverage or a little bit of anything, it's you know, 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:48.320 it's everything. 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.560 Yeah, like life is a negotiation too, so oh guaranteed. 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.480 But even that, Like I mean, yeah, they're protecting themselves 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.640 and they're making their business decisions and that kind of thing. 0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.240 But at the same time, like they. 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.360 Were trying to tell me, Will is on, Will's taking 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.760 indocent and an anti inflammatory and you know that that 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.760 raises eyebrows for us. And I had just sprained my 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.200 ankle and got an injury settlement with the Saints during preseason. 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.520 So I'm like, yeah, I'm on it because I sprained 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.880 my ankle and aside from that, everyone in the fucking 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.800 locker room is on anti inflammators, and you guys are 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.680 gonna give it to me anyway if I say I 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.120 don't have it, because my agent call is like, why 0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.160 would you tell him that, I'm like, because it doesn't 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:24.600 matter to me. 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.320 Why wouldn't I just let them know? 0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.320 Hey, Like you know, I'm I'm doctoring my ankle a 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.320 little bit and I'm still on stuff, and he's like, 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:32.800 you know, you can hurt yourself. That's why they want 0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.360 to put the injury settlement. It's like, well, all right, 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.360 it doesn't like it doesn't matter to me. 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.600 Yeah, so now that you're fighting fire and you want 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.520 me to lie to them, So like it's. 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.720 Just when we're all doing it anyway, like everyone down 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:43.160 in the lock. 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.440 Dy is time planmatory, like the I mean, like they're 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.200 starting to tighten up the tourtle and all that kind 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.000 of stuff. But like like an anti inflammatory is are 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.720 a problem and then that doesn't. 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.000 Mean I'll ever stop doing them because they get me 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.440 through the season, like they get me through playing football. 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.680 Yeah for sure. But but so you started like kind 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.760 of balancing that with like the peptides and stuff too, 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:04.480 didn't you. Yeah. 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.160 Yeah, yeah, like the BPC one seven because that helps 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.400 with like leaky gut I've talked about before it actually 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.560 introduced it talking on the EMRR podcast, I felt a 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.480 little queasy talking about it because the way he was 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:17.720 explaining how he learned about it, seeing the needles and 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.600 everything else. And I was kind of like, you know, dabbling, 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.440 educating a little bit on it because you just don't 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:22.920 want people to. 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:24.440 Think like you're doing something, yeah for sure. 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.000 But yeah, like having the peptides with it as well 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.000 to help with the leaky gut and anything that those 0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.600 anti inflammatories can cause, like in your gut lining, because 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.280 that's essentially what happens is it tears up your insides right, 0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.320 like the bleeding that goes on inside. Like it sounds 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.040 way worse than I feel like it actually, you know, 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.480 I don't know. I don't want to make people think 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.400 we're dying the inside out, but you know, it destroys 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.920 your gut a little bit, Yeah for sure. Just yeah, 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.120 I'm full, you know, I'll be on anti inflammatories, Like 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.000 anytime you're about to play, like toward ALL, Like yeah, 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.120 you're trying to get toward ALL. Like you know a 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.800 guys who you know, I knew, dudees wh would take 0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.520 like two toward ALL before a game started, and then 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:00.520 another one at halftime. 0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.640 For sure. I mean they hand them to you at halftime. Yeah, Yeah, 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:05.080 that stuff will never stop. 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.520 They'll they'll make it look better as they should like, 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:09.760 but at the end of the day, like you know, 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.600 if you're if you're if you're playing, and you're trying 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.040 to continue to play and make the team and and 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:16.800 put out good tape and good film, like. 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.640 Yeah, throw it in my fucking system. Deal, well, well 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:24.520 scrape me off the field, bro, yeah, which is which 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.680 is the vibe. But like so like, but what caught 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.280 up to me with that blood condition too, is they 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.440 wouldn't give me any anti inflammatories because like, because I 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.720 already have thin blood, they don't want that. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.200 so I didn't get that luxury. 0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.479 So like I was just so you're out there natural 0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.880 on that you're white, already behind the eight ball, just 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.560 out there like just being cut everywhere in the Canadian League, 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.360 the arena team, fucking finally getting your shot, and you 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:49.800 can't even get on the you can't even get on 0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:50.840 the stuff that makes you feel good. 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:52.640 Yeah No, they couldn't even do like p RP on 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.480 me and stuff like that. So I was always doing 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.400 stem cells whenever I needed it and that kind of 0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:57.760 things for those injuries. 0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:58.440 Damn. 0:32:58.640 --> 0:32:58.840 Yeah. 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.520 So are you always like checking your blood work like 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.880 doing yeah, decent amount like I mean, I do it 0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.600 kind of quarterly anyway, for my yeah, for my hormone 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.239 levels and like my vitamin deficiencies to like just make 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:11.719 sure I'm balanced and that kind of thing. 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:13.760 But like yeah, they always do a CBC on me, 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.640 which just like checks like red white and your platelets 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.800 and that kind of thing, and mine's mine stay low. 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.480 But like but the crazy thing, like I think it 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.720 was kind of like fade or whatever. But the once 0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.840 that the Texans found out my second year, like obviously 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.239 I didn't tell them about it once they signed me, right, 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:30.920 but in the second year, right. 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.560 Yeah, obviously, but going into the second year is when 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.560 you've led the NFL and special teams tackles. 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:37.600 Now you're going into the second with the Texans. Yeah, 0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.520 and like trying to establish myself as like a niche player, 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.160 and like so I had like rapes down there. That's 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.719 like saying, we need like special teams, guys, we need 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.760 somebody to take some ownership of special teams street rats yeah, 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:52.480 gritty yeah, yeah, And so like that that was my 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.880 niche Like that's what like I did that like wholeheartedly, 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:57.880 like whatever, whatever you do, be good at it. Like 0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.920 that was my like that was my thing down there initially. 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.320 But like so they find the blood the blood condition, 0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.760 and but like like literally like the world renowned specialists 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.520 and and my blood condition is based in that massive 0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.400 medical compound in Houston. So I go over there and 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.640 he like he's doing all these like he's doing uh 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.560 like organ imaging and things like that, and but then 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.520 he like breaks down my blood to like a whole 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.440 other level than all these other blood tests were doing. 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.560 He goes, actually, like you have blood playlists are just 0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.840 crazy small, like your your spleen beats him up, but 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:30.960 you still have blood playlists. And he goes, I used 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.000 to tell people with I t P that you like 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.600 you can't play football or ride motorcycles and that kind 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.000 of thing, but now it's gotta tell him you can 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:42.799 only not ride motorcycles because now we got at high level. Yeah, 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.080 so so that was cool. But anyways, but yeah, so 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:47.960 did four years down in in Houston and that and 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.600 that was the wrap. And I've been I've been trying 0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:54.400 to knock on doors and adapt, oh by any means necessary, 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:58.399 your boys taking up long snapping, I'm doing anything and else. Yeah, yeah, 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.160 and we'll we'll get you a video to block. It's 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.080 a show. To show the show a little bit. Now, 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.120 come on, now you got to get the baby. I'll 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:04.839 take god, I can get. 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.120 So you you were you were with Houston before we 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.800 get there. You were with Houston for four years. Yep, okay, 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:13.160 that's awesome. Yeah what year did you become the captain? 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.919 Uh? Not till my last year. Technically we don't really 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.799 have like consistent captains the first couple of years. 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.640 Would you say that's one of your better Like like 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.440 achievements are, oh, no doubt your favorite awards accomplished? 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.880 Oh for sure. Yeah, Like just uh being a captain 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.239 in general, Like I think everybody takes leadership differently too, 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:33.640 Like you don't like you can be a leader, you 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:34.920 don't have to be a captain and that kind of 0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:36.920 thing too. But no, like I mean just to go 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:38.920 like I want there's I wasn't supposed to be an 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:40.800 NFL anyways, Like I wasn't supposed to get out of 0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.040 the arena the league, Like I want like three or 0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.040 four people get out of the CFL every year like 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.440 that kind of stuff. I just beat the odds everywhere, 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.759 and like that's where like the chasing Edges mindset comes in. 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.840 Like once I knew I could play, every time I 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.759 got cut, I found three for four new things to 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.120 take on and learn and add to the add to 0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.960 the my ability or like my tool belt or whatever. Event. 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.520 Actually they stacked up and got got me the opportunity, 0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.520 So I think I enjoyed it like like I I 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.520 was grateful for the opportunity a little more than other 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.319 guys because I went through went the scenic route with it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.040 after your four years? 0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:14.480 What year? 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.440 What year was your last? The league? You you're on 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.560 You've been out for one full year now two years, dude, Yeah, 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:20.399 I've been out for a minute. 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.239 So you're going on your this is this will be 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:23.680 the third season coming up. 0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.359 Yeah. Yeah, so it's been it's been. It's been. It's 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:26.839 been a minute. 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.800 So I did so sh it flies because I remember 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:30.919 I was hanging in Vandy when you came through Vandy 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.280 and we were both fucking on the couch. 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.919 Yeah, but the boys are still eating the boys training. 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.759 Yeah, because Brian, it came to did you come to 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:39.560 the tailgate one of those bus and tailgates? 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:41.719 Yeah, but you guys are wrapping up. 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.200 I got we had just finished because he was we 0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.040 were hanging out. We did like, you know, some fat 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.520 arm like like an armwork out with little dabber. 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:48.919 Yeah. 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.440 But man, it's been a couple of years, but you 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.320 are now trying to get back in through long snapping. 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.439 Explain the long snapping route. 0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.040 Well, so I always been like a backup long snapper. 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.040 So like my high school d C he had like 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.080 a couple of coffee with some NFL teams as a snapper, 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:07.719 so he taught all of us in high school how 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.839 to snap. So I was the backup at Northwestern. Oh yeah, 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:16.000 but come on, I love it, but we need to 0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:20.840 get updated tapes. But uh, that's not the that's not 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.000 the table on everybody to check. But anyway, we'll have 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.600 the right straight. But so, actually, up in the CFL, 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:31.320 uh our long snapper had an a c joint, So 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.680 I snapped for four games in the CFL, and then 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.080 in Houston, uh John Weeks had a hamstring one of 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.120 the preseason games, so I snapped for a preseason game. 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:41.920 So I've always kind of been the emergency guy. Has 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.439 been like a back Yeah, I mean like it adds 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.799 value like oh the kids, uh hustle linebacker. And then 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.600 he also can be our emergency snapper. Maybe that's like 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.040 the breaking point to keep me on a roster. So 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.200 I mean, you know, yeah, for sure. 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.160 People always make those little side comments say hey, you 0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:58.759 really want to play in the league and last in 0:37:58.760 --> 0:37:59.960 the league, like pick up long snap. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:01.800 Oh for sure, you got these PUDs that will be 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:02.440 long snappers. 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.960 You know, no disrespect to the long snappers, but you'd 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.080 be having guys run down the field after snapping the 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:08.520 ball to go on punt. It's just like, all right, 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.480 you get the punter and the long snapper. They don't 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.480 necessarily count. There's nine guys a block on the field. 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.040 Yeah. And then so like that's where like Luke Rhoades 0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:19.399 with Indy is a linebacker, uh, converted long snapper or whatever, 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:20.840 and he like he's been eating I think he was 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.920 All Pro last year. And so like the special teams 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.840 coach with the Texans was part of that transition. So 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.840 like that's one of the contacts. And then I know 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.240 a lot of special teams coaches around that I'm sending 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.279 tape to and that kind of thing. Playing So you're 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.960 back to the to the grind, to the emails. 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.719 You're back to the emails. Fucking a I'm a dog. Yeah, 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.080 check the snap tape. 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.640 Check the tape. Yeah. So I'll match my physical fitness 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.360 against any long snapper in the league any day of 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:47.919 the week. So yeah, I love that. Yeah. 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.640 And if you do, like, I don't see why you 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.359 potentially wouldn't get a shot because you can actually cover 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:56.080 for sure. 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.600 But it's it is a crazy skill, like the mastery 0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:00.600 of like hitting the hip every time online. 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.200 Right, I'm not saying anybody can snap into account watching 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.000 your your tape, Like I mean, if you continue to 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.280 work on this, like why wouldn't. 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.800 Yeah, that's what That's what I'm hoping. That's what the 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.000 boys having to Uh dude, you know, do you know 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.799 I kicked off in the game too? No way. Yeah, 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.840 So this is a crazy this is a this is 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:24.520 a crazy freaking story too. So we're who were going 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.000 going against the Vikings. This was uh Iso Larry Izzo 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:29.920 was my special teams coach. It was his first year 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.719 and we're playing the Vikings too. Liked Cordero Patterson, who's 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.200 obviously a dog, absolute dog with and so I'm the 0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.200 R five and like we're trying to like playing like 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.040 a on side kick. So like, hey, he's yeah. He's 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:43.799 like the he is the R five. Can you come 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.759 across the ball and like chip shot it over there? 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.960 It's like, yeah, so I kicked it. He goes, can 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.480 you pooch it over there? Pooched it over there? He goes, 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.440 can you kick it deep? I go, yeah, coach, I 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.320 kicked in high school and so yeah, so this is 0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.200 on a this yeah, this is on a Friday, just 0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:02.680 like on like the like the fast So I so 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.200 I kick off and I reached the end zone on 0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.560 like just like my first kick, and he goes, do 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.200 it again. So I kick it to the end zone again. 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:11.960 And then he comes up to me after practice. He goes, 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:13.640 I'm gonna run this by, coach, you want to kick 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.960 off on Sunday? I go, hell, yeah, let's go. And 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.360 then so he's hyped me up because, uh, Wes Welker 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.560 kicked off for a few games back ons with the Dolphins. 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.600 He goes, dude, Wes had three tackles a game. He goes, 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.959 you just get a rover play linebacker. After the first 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.000 wave of guys, I was like, all right, let's go. 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.320 And so then it comes this is where it gets crazy, 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.600 where now it comes to game day I'm super pumped, 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.279 and I was like, hey, coach, should I go out 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:38.680 and warm up? Like that kind of thing is now 0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.480 like you didn't want them practice were good, like this 0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.759 is a surprise, like we're like and like so he's 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.120 like scheme and he's like he's he's he's a little 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.480 scatterbrain me. He's the he's the man. Like he's like 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.920 a player's coach once you like, once you cover and 0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.080 playing fast. He's a stud coach. I don't want to 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.719 dog on him at all. But he, uh, he goes here, 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:56.239 I got it. He goes, well, we'll set up a 0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.600 ball as you guys run out to uh run out 0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.600 for the start of the game. You're gonna warm up kick, 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.040 then ball hit somewhere and they'll know where it came from. 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.160 I was like, coach, that's ridiculous. I'm not doing that, 0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:08.280 but like but that's ride. But so anyway, so first kickoff, 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.359 I kind of I didn't. I didn't kick it great, 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.160 but it like like goes crazy, lands on like the 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.960 end line and we tack them inside the twenty so 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:21.480 and and then the the second kickoff, he goes, he goes, 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.759 you can pooch it right, like he was a directional kick. 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.200 It was like, yeah, coach the first team, mostake can 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.759 make it rain out here? Yeah, And uh so, so 0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:31.719 I go to put the ball wherever you want. But 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.800 so I pooch kick it and like it lands on 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.640 like I think it's like the eight nine yard line 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.480 with some height to it like a pro. And but 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.279 I tear my quad on the second kick and so 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.399 I like limp downing like swinging your leg the kick. Yeah, 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.560 on that lockout, I popped my rectus memeris that muscle 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.719 on the top. Oh, So I popped my quad and 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.640 uh so I'm out for like four or five weeks. 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.120 So that that was that was a tough injury to 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.120 come back from because it's tough, like they're like the 0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.800 only people that hurt this muscle are like Olympic sprinters 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:04.000 and kickers. I let's sell. Yeah. 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Fine, So you've 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.200 had to work out. I've had to work out. Yeah, 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:21.759 let's fucking go yeah for the boys. Yeah, So how 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.120 do you feel like? What? Like? What what is your head? 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.719 Tel you? Because what I'm like, what I'm thinking about 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.240 is all right, if I've been out of the league 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.200 for two years? Yeah, do you think you think it's dead? Yeah? 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:32.880 I'm starting to think, all right, do I need to 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.480 start putting my energy in my focus and you know 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.880 the stuff off the field. Do I need to just 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.800 fucking put football to bed and go all in with 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.600 this stuff and stop hanging on at the dream like, Hey, 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:43.839 I'm trying to get back into the league. 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:44.560 You know what I mean? 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:47.680 Like, what's what's going on through your head now? Like 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:48.759 what's in your headspace now? 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:50.720 For sure? Like and and I've tried to put football 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.040 to sleep a few times. I uh, I do actually, 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:55.520 so actually we left the league out. I've been in 0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.160 five leagues. I went to the XFL. 0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:57.640 Oh that. 0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:02.359 Was the best. Do you have that video? What video 0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:04.239 where I remember you? 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.759 Because you got signed and you practiced and you did 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.600 an interview and what did you say? You're like, yeah, 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:11.239 I'm just ready to, you know, bust a couple of 0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:12.680 heads and put some tape back up. 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.080 Yeah, like I'm coming back. I said something like there's an. 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.480 Interview with the XFL and it's like an XFL fashion interview. 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:18.759 He's like, you know, I'm just ready to like bust 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.160 some heads and get back up on the field. I 0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:21.319 might be hyping it up too. 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.800 Much, but it was something along those lines. It was 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.359 something greaty. Now that's XBT, which is another whole different 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.800 type of training. I got I got it somewhere on 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.040 my Twitter or something. I'll get it cued up for you. 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.520 And then you say that interview and then it all 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.080 the XFL goes a ship. 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.240 Well, so like it was, it was in full XFL 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.560 fashion too. I was gonna start my first game because 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.839 the starting linebacker before that threw a massive right hook 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.080 at the running back, so he was suspended for the 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:52.120 first half. So just a ship sho. But so you 0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:53.879 show up and then like so we're we're like heading 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.680 to the bus to go play New York and Trump 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.719 shuts everything down and so then the league folds and 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.080 so I steal tape from that and send like the 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.680 practice tape out whatever that look like like I've sent 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.399 out some ridiculous tape over the years. 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.279 I love the fucking commendment. You're sitting practice tape out? 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.839 Oh dude, I need something like the big Oh dude, 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.520 I have this whole other agent story because I flipped agents. 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.279 Before you get into that, you said you tried five 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.920 other leagues since the no I've been in five leagues. 0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:26.080 I was thinking about this other day, ARENA, UFL, CFL, NFL, XFL, 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.640 like there's like, what I just need Mexico to have 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.759 open up a league. Now go down there too, Like 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:36.720 fuck dude, yeah, I mean it's like a fucking movie. 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:38.840 It's ridiculous. You can make a movie out of that story. 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:40.600 We might need to cut that out. We might need 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:41.960 to edit this out and do our own thing. Just 0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.239 getting the tank, just getting the shark thing to think tank. 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.800 If Mark Wahlber can have Invincible, Yeah, you know what 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:48.920 I'm saying, we can. We can create some heat. Now, 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:51.560 what actor is gonna play me? 0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:52.320 You? 0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:57.000 Uh? Fuck the way you're hanging on the way you 0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:58.200 still doing it like you're a shape. 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.920 Fucking look at you, hey, Sean, as I say, look 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.920 at you, drop a picture or drop a photo of 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.680 its Instagram like when I say that for the fucking thing. 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.920 But yeah, who would you want to play you? If 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.480 you could, if you could have anybody play you? 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:17.520 Yeah, you're right, right right mcconaughe would be tight. I'll 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:24.480 take I'll take Jason Momo with the long hair. Yeah. 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:25.000 Uh. 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:27.640 Some people try to tell me I look like the 0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.120 other Hemnsworth brother at one point when I had shorter 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.279 hair Liam, Yeah, so that was trash. Yeah, I mean 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:34.799 I'll take what. I'll take what I can get. Yeah, 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.720 I think he pulls. So it's a good. 0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:44.520 Who's the the person that people say that the actor 0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:46.800 that looks like me is the different Jurassic Park Guardians 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.920 of the Galaxy. Oh, Chris Pratt, do you guys think 0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.520 that people think the people think no, and people think like, oh, 0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:53.120 I can see it. 0:47:53.680 --> 0:48:03.759 I think more. Ryan Reynolds Garrett just smiles like this 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:10.040 motherfucker dude, h ship Chris Pratt a little bit. It's 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:11.960 just like it's just like the facial hair. 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:16.000 Yeah, I mean I take him. Listen, Yeah, I fucking 0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:16.520 take Chris. 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.560 Goes punch for punch. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, it goes 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.040 punch for punch, takes a lot of jokes on to 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:30.120 the gin. Yeah, but no pause. It counts though what 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.279 we're talking about. Before, I don't know, we went on 0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:36.840 a nice tangent. Hey get that fucking like we were like, 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.920 do we still want this the saga of the Saga 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.520 of Brian Peters to continue with the agent deal too? 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.160 That was a whole ship show. Way is it now? 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:46.360 Is it? 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.080 This is a new agent and like I wanted like 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.319 a little bit bigger agent, a little more greasy guy 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.080 because I had no leverage because my last year I 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.520 played hurt like I shot my ankle, I took thirty 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.680 shots to the ankle, my last season, like like the 0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.160 thirty shots of the ankle and what were we talking 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.719 about here quarters? Yeah, so like so I couldn't I 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.399 really couldn't like feel my foot like the last ten 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.799 games I played in the NFL, because like so they 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.240 misdiagnosed me. They said, like I tore my deltoid ligament 0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.080 on the inside, that I could play. Three weeks later 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:14.320 and we lost three linebackers and injury, so like I 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.600 had a chance to start and play on defense, which 0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.480 I hadn't had in the NFL yet. So hustled back 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.359 for the Bronx this Broncos game. Hey, Braves, your coach 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.040 is Rabier. Braves has gone. This is twenty eighteen. He's 0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:28.520 here with the Titans now. So drug you in those 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:32.640 linebacker meetings? Oh for real, Yeah he's but uh oh 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.640 yeah dude, Uh I got some brave stories too. But 0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.640 but anyways, uh we all do. Yeah, if you know brave, 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.640 well you have a story, even if you're a stranger. 0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:47.120 You see them straight. Yeah story. But no, so like 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.400 the deltoy's on the inside of the ankle, But all 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.239 my pain was on the outside, and I keep kept 0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.040 telling my trainers my pain's on the outside, I have 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.960 no pain on the inside, like all, that's just the 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.440 inflammation rolling over. So but I ended up so I 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.360 ended up playing ten weeks on half an ankle that 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.640 once they got in for like eventually my calf tour 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.480 from overcomm stating for my ankle and I got they 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.279 got in for surgery, and I had this condra lesion. 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:09.200 I had this cartilage torn off the bone, and so 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:10.920 I was playing with that the whole damn time. But 0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.400 but anyway, so shoot quarter. 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:18.200 Zone Yeah, which is dumb as ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, terrible. Yeah, 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.720 this is a terrible just a band aid. Yeah, exact 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:22.360 was like the worst thing you can do. 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.719 Yeah, and then like I'm getting stem cells going into 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.400 the PRP and that kind of thing. But anyways, so 0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:28.560 like I knew I had no leverage, like like like 0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:30.680 I'm coming off my worst season, Like you know, you 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:32.640 can't play special teams if you don't have one hundred 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:34.320 percent in the tank, like like I hadn't. I was 0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:36.839 running like ninety percent of top speed ninety five whatever, 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.240 But you get buried if you don't have top speed agility. 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.120 So I didn't put out a good tape regardless of point. Yeah, well, 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.560 let me tell my story. Yeah, that's the story I 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.759 tell myself. It's not like you need insane top speed 0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:55.040 but example right, yeah, but but anyways, Uh, so I 0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.279 switched agents I wanted, like because the last deal I 0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.880 got from my last one year deal, I wasn't ecstatic 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:01.759 about it, and so I was like, all right, I 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.239 need someone more contacts this time around and try and 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:06.840 get deals. So this guy sold me I like I 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.600 had met him through one of my uh Northwestern buddies 0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:14.160 and probably my least favorite human. So I'm gonna try 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.200 and like temper myself a little bit. But so he 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.200 tells a new agent. This new agent, so he tells 0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:20.440 me all these things like he can do for me, 0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.399 gives me a timeline for like when we think we're 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:25.000 gonna get signed, what conversation's gonna have, And so I 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:27.839 hold him accountable to these things like hey, like Combine's over, 0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.239 like where are your conversations at? And he's like he's 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.400 like saying like Tennessee and other things where like like 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:35.880 like I didn't think Braves was a massive fan of me, 0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:37.239 so I didn't think he was gonna try and get 0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:38.560 me there or anything like that. So I was like 0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:41.000 let's work on other avenues. And then like I'm so, 0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.760 I call him like two three times a week. Sometimes 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.520 they're saying, hey, what's up, Like anything happening, like not 0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.960 big conversations, and then eventually, like one of his other 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.000 guys fires him, and I was cool with him. So 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.040 we were talking and then at one point, like I 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.279 was like, hey, what's going on? Like like you said, 0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:59.799 like we'd have like opportunities by now, and I got 0:51:59.920 --> 0:52:01.000 to give him a lot to work with this so 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.040 like in hindsight, maybe I wasn't the best client either. 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.440 But he goes, if you want to fire me, to 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:08.840 go ahead, and I go, I'm not trying to fire you. 0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:11.000 I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And so 0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:13.160 we have this conversation. It was a real rough conversation, 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:15.839 and then like the next time we talked, I ended 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:17.560 up firing him and going back to my old agent. 0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:21.440 But dude, this conversation with this agent was out of control. 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:25.879 He goes. He goes, you're a northwestern guy, like you're 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:27.960 supposed to be high character. Everybody's gonna know you have 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:30.879 terrible character now now that you fired me. He goes, 0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:35.279 I'm gonna know forever, Like he goes, if you become 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:37.759 the CEO of FedEx, he goes, I'm gonna know that 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.400 you still have You're a terrible person, you have terrible character, 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:42.480 like just lays into me. I was like, listen, dude, 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:44.520 like I'm not trying to like make this a thing 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.719 like if like you've obviously worked for me, I'll pay 0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:48.440 you for your time and that kind of thing. He goes, 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:50.719 he was, he was, I don't want your money, he goes. 0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:53.040 He goes, I've been in this league or this business 0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:55.319 for fourteen years. You're gonna need the money more than 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.600 I do. Blah blah blah. Just goes him. This day, 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.840 Yeah he's still agent this day. Name ed was Lusky 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.480 It let's fucking go. Yeah. So but anyways, that was yeah, 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.520 that was no no blano. But anyways, switch back to 0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.880 my agent, got some calls, got got a few workouts 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.879 worked out for the Saints, like, but things didn't things 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:13.480 didn't work out. 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:15.759 I think we were at the same workout. Oh wait, no, no, no, 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:19.279 you worked out before or after me. Uh you might 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:21.040 have worked out after. I think you worked out after Yeah, 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:23.880 this is like week three. Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe for 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:29.480 your spot oh I think. Yeah, I forget who the 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:31.200 linebackers were because I know when I got hurt. That's 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:34.560 when the Saints I traded for Keiko Alonso. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.320 And then you were there with like who was Mark Barron? 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.279 Was Mason Foster there? No, I never made the team, 0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:41.319 like I just worked. 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.480 I'm saying at the workout. No, no, no, no, this 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:48.080 is uh Ray Ray Armstrong was there? Ray Ray Armstrong? 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:49.880 That's right, yes, right then he then he signed on it. 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.120 It was like week two or three or something. Yeah. Yeah, 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.279 but yeah, so that's my last juicy stories you got 0:53:55.320 --> 0:54:00.320 about Billy Oh Billy Oh oh wow, that's an you 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:03.400 can tell. I mean, there's not like a it's not 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:07.040 like there's not like crazy stories by any means. Like 0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.440 he mean, he he's a he's a tough coach, but 0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.640 he's like he's fair in the same sense like where 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.520 he just always I think, got wired up to play 0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:16.360 the Patriots and that kind of thing. That's where my 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:18.520 favorite stories are, Like when he'd like when he'd come 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:21.560 in and like try and impersonate Tom Brady's cadence, like 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.640 he'd he'd come in like on the stage of the 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.440 defensive room, and start goes listen, Tom does all this stuff. 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:28.600 He goes when he points, he doesn't means he's pointing sometimes, 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.759 and like he goes through like all Tom's cadences and 0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:32.920 just goes, ham, so did he got wired up for 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:35.279 the Patriots games? And that kind of thing. But other 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.560 than that, there's not too many crazy stories like me 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:39.640 and him weren't crazy tight or anything like that. Like 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:41.600 I was his guy early because I was productive and 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:44.040 then my production dropped off. I wasn't this guy, which 0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.359 is what have you done for me lately? Kind of league? 0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:48.240 But yeah, yeah, but no, he don't. 0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.160 Want to Yeah, you don't want to give a little juice, 0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:51.920 a little juicy story. 0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:54.359 There's no juicy. Oh you're you're referred to the other 0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:58.839 story where he's No, I'm just like any anybody that's like, uh, 0:54:59.120 --> 0:54:59.840 played for coach O. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:04.520 It's it's not been like favorable outlooks on the culture 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:05.800 and the organization and stuff like that. 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.399 Yeah, I'm not gonna say organization the culture of Billy. 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.759 Oh yeah, he'd I mean, he'd like he like he 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:13.920 has his crazy one line standard and if you're off that, 0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:15.960 like if you don't practice enough, if you like all 0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:18.000 these kind of things like you're not like you're not 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.080 his guy, and he'll he'll single you out in meetings 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.120 and that kind of stuff. But he like he progressed 0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:23.960 as a coach fantastic while I was there too, Like 0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:25.840 we got there and like you know how like in 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:27.400 meetings like we're like, I don't know if they do 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:28.480 this anyway coach. 0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:30.320 Essentially you get mad if you're not like one of 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:32.680 his guys. Who gets who'll get like praise or. 0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.239 Get It's pretty clear clear cut with him, Like he 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.440 like he doesn't bullshit a lot, like you know, if 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:39.560 he's your guy, you're his guy or not. Yeah, that 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:41.440 kind of thing. And he because he demands like a 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.680 standard up performance and like guys that like so like 0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:46.520 initially when I got there, like I think it was 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.839 like Thursday or Friday, Like he has his like hour 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:53.400 long quiz, so he's quizzing everybody in the room special teams, offense, 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.239 defense on different scenarios, different jobs and that kind of 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:58.839 stuff like who's the like best petch teams, like who's 0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:00.480 the punter And if a guy doesn't know, he just 0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:02.520 he'll keep burying you until you get some right or 0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:06.080 peters what's the fucking right answer or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, 0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:08.600 and then but like we we we had some we 0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.399 had we had some funny ass bits about it too though, 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:14.960 because he like he also like gauged the level of 0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.360 difficulty on the question to the person he was asking 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.080 the question too. It's super funny. So be like cush 0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:23.239 what's their top three runs? And like whatever, pro I 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.759 write whatever. All these things then like Jayalen Jalen, we 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:29.120 got like if if if you if you run out 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:30.520 and he throws your ball, do you do you do 0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:32.719 you catch it? Yeah? You catch it? Just goes him 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:33.000 on it. 0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:36.319 But does that a little bit? I mean they might 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:39.240 get it from like Belichick. Yeah, like the team keys, 0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.120 the understanding your person. 0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.160 It's a great tool for accountability. Like I'm just trying 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.000 to tell the stories. But like he like but like 0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:48.560 all that stuff is necessary. And then like I also 0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:50.600 think like it like if you can't like if you 0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:52.640 know the information, you can't relay it in a meeting, 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.719 like you're gonna be a liability, right, So like if 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:57.759 if you don't know again, like say they switch out 0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.320 a wing or a punter, like all those things, like 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.840 the like little details like you're gonna get exposed at 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:04.160 one point. 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Cush has like a legend out there, 0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:51.760 you know what I mean. 0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:53.960 He's like, there's like this legend about Cush because he's 0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:55.760 obviously got popped a couple of times. 0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:58.880 Like he's got the bloody photos, he's got this, he's 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:02.520 got this about Yeah. Yeah, yeah, what's what's Cush like? 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:05.520 Cush is the man, dude. He I always like, I 1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:07.720 always respect him just because he like guys that like 1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:10.040 train their ass off in the gym, Like I always 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:13.560 kind of gravitated towards too. Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:15.600 But so like like when he was on sc with 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:18.800 mal A Luga and all those boys and Taylor Mays. 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:22.520 But who's the linebacker course Clay Matthews, Yeah, mal A Luga, 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:26.280 Brian Cushing. There's another one who played for the Bengals 1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:31.040 for a long time. Yeah, not not Maluga. Another one 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:34.920 that was like right before mal Luga, not the Bengals 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.000 a long time, but it was, uh, we'll figure it out, but. 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:40.320 Anyway, but no, your coach like yeah, but like so 1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:42.560 like people see like the fac like it's not a 1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:44.880 facaet he puts on. Like the dude's tough as nails. 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.800 He like like he like if he's there, he's on, 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:50.920 like he like he he it's dude, he's a fucking 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:54.000 warrior like so he like and like if once you 1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:56.000 like get to know him and get into his mindset 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:58.080 to like the dude treats a football game like a 1:00:58.120 --> 1:01:00.520 street fight, like that's what he wires his brain. Four 1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:04.840 crazy New Jersey best Oh crazy New and this dude, Uh, 1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:08.520 there's so many stupid nuanced stories to cush too, where 1:01:08.560 --> 1:01:11.960 like I don't think he timed it perfectly, but he 1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:14.000 did it a lot where I think he timed it. 1:01:14.080 --> 1:01:16.000 So every time we had the team prayer in the shower, 1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:18.280 Coush would be in there puking his guts out. He 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:21.000 peaks for every game, just puking his guts out, and 1:01:21.040 --> 1:01:23.560 then like he'd be like, screw Peters. I threw up 1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:28.200 the ko Q twelve pill. The whole pill Like yeah, 1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:30.960 but he's the man he but did he like he 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:33.960 like that's like that's his deal. Like he's physically plays tough, 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:37.320 like he gets the job done. He's uh like yeah 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:39.160 he has this like I mean like the legend and 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:42.560 like he's like this crazy strong He's an incredibly strong human. Yeah, 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:45.160 but he like he's he's earned all that, like like 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:48.880 he's he's very respected. Oh yeah, he's fully respected. But 1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:51.760 yeah he's dude, I mean look at him, dude, look shah. 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:53.880 The prayer showers are the best. 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:56.320 Yeah, like they'd be like all right, you know, you 1:01:56.360 --> 1:01:58.720 got all the rap music playing, like the murdering songs, this, 1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:00.160 that and the other. It's like all right, prayer and 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:02.280 shower and the music goes down and it pretty much 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:05.120 essentially everybody gets stuff there you go. It's just I 1:02:05.160 --> 1:02:07.720 don't know, it's just prayer in the shower. It's where 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:09.040 I have no clue. 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:11.360 Why is it the show just the only empty space 1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:13.160 because like not everybody comes to prayer either. 1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:15.120 Yeah, not everybody goes to prayer. So if you're just 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.439 doing the locker room around people who don't go to prayer, yeah, 1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:19.880 and I'll just be like yelling them knock yourself. Hey, 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:23.880 tell the prayer where Jesus woofs their ass. They're going 1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:24.320 back there. 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:26.520 Oh yeah, And. 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:27.880 Then you get done with the prayer, and then you 1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:29.480 come back and then you turn the rat music back up. 1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:31.400 You're ready to go out there and murder somebody. You go, 1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:34.120 put the women and children to sleep, the sins come. Yeah. Yeah, 1:02:34.760 --> 1:02:35.600 to get right with God. 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:40.800 Yeah, talk about mind strong and we'll get into because 1:02:40.800 --> 1:02:42.920 you're also trying to get into the podcast or with 1:02:43.040 --> 1:02:45.480 Chasing Edges. But talk a little bit about mind strong 1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:49.200 and your your journey with this whole breath work, performance, 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:51.560 human performance, all that stuff. 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:54.840 Yeah for sure. It uh low key. So it started 1:02:55.320 --> 1:02:57.640 that when I was down in Houston like twenty sixteen, 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:00.640 like the team was paying for us do the sensory 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:03.120 deprivation chamber like the float tanks, and I was in 1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:04.760 there and I was just bullshit like trying to hold 1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:06.200 my breath as long as I could. So I get 1:03:06.240 --> 1:03:07.920 out and google how do you hold your breath longer? 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:10.240 And it was like free diving and whim Hoff method. 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.120 So I started going deep into those and I like 1:03:13.200 --> 1:03:14.919 I went from like holding my breath from a minute 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:16.560 to like three minutes, three and a half, and I 1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:19.080 started like getting really good at holding my breath for 1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:22.840 whatever damn reason. Yeah. And then my buddy at the 1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:25.760 same time, Harvey Martin, was up in Minnesota, and he 1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:28.160 was going through the wim Hoff stuff, like he's like 1:03:28.240 --> 1:03:30.400 transitioning out of the baseball world, and it was like 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:34.680 kind of picking him up emotionally, like like his physiology everything. 1:03:34.720 --> 1:03:36.920 He was feeling good and like it became like a 1:03:37.040 --> 1:03:39.240 tool for him to like get through what he was 1:03:39.280 --> 1:03:41.320 going through. And then he started applying it to sport 1:03:41.400 --> 1:03:43.560 up there. He was a pitching coach, so he started 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:45.680 applying it to baseball players. But like, so at the time, 1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:47.680 I was doing the free diving and the wim Hoff stuff. 1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:51.560 And that's when Luke Richardson came into Houston, the strength 1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:56.040 coach took over for Yeah. So and so we're down 1:03:56.120 --> 1:03:58.480 there and he comes down and he assesses the team 1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:00.880 and realized and he comes to conclue that we're unfit 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:03.200 to run. He does like the FMS scores and like 1:04:03.280 --> 1:04:05.800 the nord Board hamstring strength tests and stuff and says like, 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:08.040 you guys aren't fit to run yet. We need to 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:11.680 work on firing pattern, trigger pointing, glute strength, all these things. 1:04:12.040 --> 1:04:14.080 So and he gave the whole state of union, like 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:16.520 nobody runs outside of here. If you run, I don't 1:04:16.520 --> 1:04:19.520 care if you're JJ Watt, DeAndre Hopkins. Nobody runs until 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:22.640 I say so. And so nobody's running. And but I'm 1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:24.920 doing this breath work stuff at the time, just like 1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:27.360 staying busy. And then I kind of found this XPT 1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:30.200 pool training and stuff at the same time. And so 1:04:30.320 --> 1:04:32.840 then once we do start running a month later, we 1:04:32.920 --> 1:04:34.360 do like a warm up run one day and the 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:37.480 next day we run conditioning and dude, I'm like, my 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:40.840 conditioning levels still nails, Like I mean, you're not running. 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:43.360 This is you not running? Yeah, without running, And we 1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:45.600 walk into our first conditioning day and like I'm out 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:47.960 running all linebackers and I'm running with the DB's like 1:04:48.160 --> 1:04:50.439 I'm crushing some of the DB's and I'm like there's 1:04:50.440 --> 1:04:52.440 something like there's something here. How long were you not 1:04:52.560 --> 1:04:54.439 running again, Like explain this about a month? 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:56.600 Yeah, yeah, so like a month no running, you're just 1:04:56.640 --> 1:04:57.200 doing breath work. 1:04:57.240 --> 1:04:59.080 Yeah, well we're doing breath Then we're doing strength training 1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:01.480 in the gym, like we're doing hamstring eccentrics, we're doing 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:05.160 glute activations as far as no, I'm not doing anything 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:07.560 besides like my breath work stuff, and so I all right, 1:05:07.560 --> 1:05:10.120 there's something here. And then that's when like me and 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:12.720 my buddy Harvey started to put together this mind Strong 1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:16.520 project to where like how can breath improve sports performance? 1:05:16.840 --> 1:05:19.000 And so like people in the world then where this 1:05:19.120 --> 1:05:23.480 dude Brian McKenzie, Lard Hamilton and his wife Gabby Gabby Reese, 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:25.320 and like there's not a lot of people in this 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:27.600 breath world. So like it's kind of like we're starting 1:05:27.600 --> 1:05:29.480 to figure out that this is like a missing pillar 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:33.280 of human performance, right and so and now then eventually, 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:35.320 like as you get into the weeds of it, it's 1:05:35.400 --> 1:05:38.360 not human performance just like being a good, clean human 1:05:38.440 --> 1:05:41.000 being in the first place. You start learning about mouth 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:44.520 breathing and versus nasal breathing and what actual like calm 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:47.000 breathing does to the mind. And then like how like 1:05:47.080 --> 1:05:48.920 if you are a mouth breather, how you're more like 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:50.960 more likely to like so I know you take your mouth, 1:05:51.520 --> 1:05:54.840 yeah yeah, so like you're more likely for sleep apnea 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:57.040 and stress and anxiety and all these things. And so 1:05:57.160 --> 1:05:59.840 we start asking why, and like these mentors in the 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:02.400 the realm, we're able to answer these questions for us. 1:06:02.480 --> 1:06:04.640 And eventually we did our own research, so you got 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:06.640 like the auction advantage, you got all these books in 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:09.040 the art of it too, and then we started demoing 1:06:09.080 --> 1:06:11.720 all these meditation methods and stuff, and eventually it became 1:06:11.800 --> 1:06:15.320 this human performance company where we're teaching breath work to 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:18.320 teach mental skills. So not only are we improving your 1:06:18.360 --> 1:06:21.680 performance and your VO two max and stuff with breath work. Now, 1:06:21.880 --> 1:06:24.480 like if you can control your breath and your physiology, 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:26.640 you can actually control your psychology. And they're tied very 1:06:26.720 --> 1:06:29.920 closely together. So like kind of our stance on it 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:33.440 is like psychologies unresolved physiology, like your heart rate and 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:36.160 your respiratory rate tell the brain that you're safe and 1:06:36.240 --> 1:06:38.240 you can solve problems. If not, you regress and you 1:06:38.320 --> 1:06:40.240 can't solve problems. And I think that shows up in 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:42.360 football too, like guys that are too amped up, or 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:44.920 like young kids that can't like they know what to do, 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:46.520 they know how to play cover three, they know how 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:48.200 to play man to man all day, but they freak 1:06:48.280 --> 1:06:50.919 out like they're probably not breathing and they're not calm. 1:06:50.960 --> 1:06:52.720 They don't understand that, like the breath is a tool 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:54.760 to down regulate and focus and things like that. So 1:06:55.360 --> 1:06:58.760 we've created this company around those skills and so we 1:06:59.400 --> 1:07:01.800 can improve your athletic performance and then we can like 1:07:02.000 --> 1:07:03.720 help you get control of your sports so you're a 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:05.680 sports I college and your mental skills too. So it's 1:07:05.680 --> 1:07:08.480 been it's been a cool little little journey. We started 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:11.040 that like back in twenty fifteen loosely, and then it 1:07:11.160 --> 1:07:13.120 like it built as we got deeper and deeper into 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:14.120 breath work. 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:16.560 And now you guys are getting into professional sports, right, Yeah, 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:18.000 so we're starting to get to the level of working 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:19.000 with professional athletes. 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:21.360 Yeah. So we we were the first breath coach and 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:24.960 the MLB we have a contract as the breast specialists 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:28.280 for the San Francisco Giants, who are number one right now. 1:07:28.320 --> 1:07:31.040 Shout out to the Giants, to the boys. And then 1:07:31.080 --> 1:07:33.800 where we got a bunch of NHL guys. They've they've 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:37.240 gravitated towards it because I mean VO two max is 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:40.560 like the standard for hockey because their wark capacity is 1:07:40.600 --> 1:07:43.840 so high. Yeah, so we have about like six seven 1:07:43.960 --> 1:07:47.440 NHL guys that work with us pretty regularly. Definitely do 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:49.360 like the full off season program and that kind of thing. 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:52.600 And then we got a few pitchers around the MLB too. 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:54.880 But yeah, so it's grown and it's got some traction 1:07:55.000 --> 1:07:56.800 and people like the cool thing about is you can 1:07:56.880 --> 1:07:58.520 feel it, Like like we went through a little bit 1:07:58.520 --> 1:08:01.680 of something this morning, me and you, the hypoxic work. 1:08:01.760 --> 1:08:04.200 But like it's just like it's it's a tool. 1:08:04.680 --> 1:08:06.520 Right if I'm an athlete talking to you or just 1:08:06.600 --> 1:08:09.959 anybody anybody listening to, Like, what's a simple explanation about 1:08:10.000 --> 1:08:13.520 why people should be curious about breathing correctly? Yeah, I 1:08:13.560 --> 1:08:15.480 mean in breath performance and. 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:18.680 Yeah, I mean like like you can start from the 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:21.400 like the principles of it, like like why should you 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:23.439 breathe them through your mouth versus your nose? And when 1:08:23.600 --> 1:08:26.120 like like if you're fighting somebody, yeah, breathing through your 1:08:26.160 --> 1:08:28.800 mouth all day, Like the primary benefit of breathing through 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:30.479 your mouth is to get more auction in and out. 1:08:30.920 --> 1:08:32.880 But now you start talking about this how you breathe 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:35.360 throughout the day, like that that compounds more than anything, 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:38.040 like if your mouth breathing all day, Like, so the mouth, 1:08:38.439 --> 1:08:40.840 the mouth is digestive, the nose is respiratory. Like that's 1:08:40.880 --> 1:08:44.680 how atomic anatomically worked build That's how God built us. 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:46.880 So if you're breeding through your nose, the air is 1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:50.200 getting cleaned, humidified, you have the ability to access nitric oxide. 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:52.479 You breed into the belly, which is the bottom of 1:08:52.520 --> 1:08:55.800 the lung. You strengthen the diaphragm and the pelvic floor. 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:59.120 If you're breathing, breathing properly through your nose and so like, 1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:01.679 now that's spine alignment and stability. Like there's a bunch 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:06.280 of like fundamental benefits to just properly breathing, good breathing mechanics. 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:08.080 And then now if you want to be an athlete 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:09.840 and you want to be a dog, now you like 1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:13.320 address your relationship with oxygen and carbon dioxide. Like it 1:09:13.400 --> 1:09:16.080 doesn't matter if you're four hundred pounds or you're one 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:18.040 hundred and fifty pounds. I put an oximiner on your 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:19.800 finger that reads the auctionyen in your blood. It's going 1:09:19.880 --> 1:09:22.000 to be ninety five to ninety nine unless you're you 1:09:22.120 --> 1:09:25.679 have some lung disorder. So the problem is not having oxygen, 1:09:25.760 --> 1:09:28.000 it's how well you use it. So that now becomes 1:09:28.160 --> 1:09:31.240 your relationship with co too, Like the byproduct of what 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:33.360 you burn. Like after you burn, the auction becomes combon 1:09:33.360 --> 1:09:36.120 to oxide, you achale it out and you can you 1:09:36.200 --> 1:09:38.680 can control and train that tolerance, so longer you can 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:41.080 control higher levels of COE too. The longer you can work, 1:09:41.280 --> 1:09:42.880 and your VO two mex goes up, and now you 1:09:42.920 --> 1:09:46.519 can run longer. And like how like me and like 1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:48.720 my buddy Nate, after like that you keep the you 1:09:48.880 --> 1:09:51.000 keep the dark place away from you longer like you can. 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:54.439 It's just like that mental giant like or that mental 1:09:54.520 --> 1:09:56.160 demon that comes on your shoulder like no, you're too 1:09:56.240 --> 1:09:57.599 tired and that kind of stuff, like you can keep 1:09:57.640 --> 1:10:00.120 that farther away. Yeah, So like that's kind of how 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:01.160 we view it, right. 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:03.080 Because I'm asking from a stance too, if like if 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:05.320 if an athlete's like listening, like if you're just sitting 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:07.080 there like just some meat hit like okay, why would 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:08.759 I incorporate breathing into my stuff? 1:10:08.880 --> 1:10:09.080 Yeah? 1:10:09.200 --> 1:10:11.000 That's why I ask, Like a simple example that could 1:10:11.040 --> 1:10:12.680 make somebody think and be like yo, I should get 1:10:12.720 --> 1:10:13.400 curious about this. 1:10:13.760 --> 1:10:17.719 Yeah, going into performance, Yeah, it's just like even simpler. 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:20.040 Look at it as MMA fighting, Like you see a 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:23.200 guy you can tell when somebody's dead tired because their 1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:27.000 mouth breathing heavy body language shows it. Like the guys 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:29.320 that are cool, calm and collected and bringing to their 1:10:29.400 --> 1:10:31.639 nose like they last longer. Like the goals to breathe 1:10:31.760 --> 1:10:34.479 less that the guy who breathes the least is probably 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:36.280 gonna win. Like if you can't breathe, you can't fight. 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:38.760 If you can't get auction to the muscle, you can't fight, 1:10:38.920 --> 1:10:40.719 Like if you can't run like your if your legs 1:10:40.720 --> 1:10:44.400 are dead, can't fight. And you can train your tolerance 1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:46.120 to that level of CO two that you build up 1:10:46.120 --> 1:10:48.200 in your legs or your arms or whatever body part 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:51.040 you're using for your sport. So it's and it's something 1:10:51.080 --> 1:10:52.760 you can do without wearing a tear in the body. 1:10:52.840 --> 1:10:54.599 Like you don't have to go bang and run one 1:10:54.680 --> 1:10:57.120 hundred yard sprints all the time. Work in some breath work, 1:10:57.160 --> 1:10:59.760 get comfortable with higher levels of CO two with XO 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.719 and things like that, and you can improve your aerublic capacity. 1:11:03.800 --> 1:11:08.280 It's been proven time and time and again. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:11.560 it's just a tool. Yeah, yeah, I know. 1:11:11.640 --> 1:11:13.960 For me, the book that you put me on was 1:11:14.000 --> 1:11:16.360 the oxygen advantage. If somebody was a start. Would that 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:18.880 be the book you would put everybody on to start 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:23.000 looking getting curious outside of obviously following at mindstream project 1:11:23.680 --> 1:11:25.000 and shouting out the minestron project. 1:11:25.040 --> 1:11:27.120 You guys actually have an app too, right, Yeah, we 1:11:27.240 --> 1:11:29.439 were also with this Kodjabi app. But yeah, so you 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:32.639 can access and buy membership for monthly like breath coaching 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:34.679 and some mobility work and primal stuff. 1:11:34.840 --> 1:11:36.720 So if people were interested in getting involved with the 1:11:36.760 --> 1:11:38.040 Minestrong project, where would they go? 1:11:38.040 --> 1:11:41.320 They would download the Kujabi app. Yeah, so they'll just 1:11:41.400 --> 1:11:43.400 go to the website and signs you up and it 1:11:43.680 --> 1:11:45.759 gives you all the instruct go to your guys' websit 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:48.559 dot com and they'll send it take you care, take 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:49.280 care of you from there. 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:52.760 But yeah, but but some practical things you can do 1:11:53.000 --> 1:11:54.760 reading oxygen advantage. 1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:56.479 Yeah, that's like that's the place to start, because it 1:11:56.840 --> 1:12:01.360 breaks down like the oxygen co two relation about it, Yeah, 1:12:01.439 --> 1:12:04.760 the bore effect and then as far as like the 1:12:04.840 --> 1:12:06.760 taping your mouth at night. Like now, like if you 1:12:06.840 --> 1:12:09.400 look at it practically, like every breath helps or hurts you, 1:12:09.840 --> 1:12:11.320 so like if you breathe them through your mouth, that 1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:14.559 like the mouth breathing trigger is fighting fighting fighting flight 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:18.280 is sympathetic nervous system. Nervous system triggers parasympathetic rest and 1:12:18.320 --> 1:12:20.680 digest So do you want to tell yourself all night 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:24.040 while you're sleeping that you're safe or that you're fighting, Like, 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:26.080 if you're fighting, you're not gonna get into that deep 1:12:26.160 --> 1:12:27.720 sleep consistently. Yeah. 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:29.479 I know for me when I started taping my mouth 1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:31.559 shut due to you putting me on the auction page 1:12:31.600 --> 1:12:32.160 and tell me about it. 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:36.120 Shut out the boy, But for me, like where my whoop? 1:12:36.200 --> 1:12:36.760 Where my whoop? 1:12:36.760 --> 1:12:38.479 When I go to sleep and everything, getting my like 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:42.320 getting all the data back, the stats back the night after, 1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:46.600 my respiratory weight rate would go way down, my. 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:49.800 Restling hardweight rate would go way down. 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:51.280 I like I'd be in the fifties in the minute 1:12:51.320 --> 1:12:53.639 I started taping, I started getting in the high forties, 1:12:53.640 --> 1:12:54.040 and then after a. 1:12:54.040 --> 1:12:56.120 Few weeks I'm done in like the low forties. Savage. 1:12:56.160 --> 1:12:58.360 Obviously that goes with like workout routine and stuff like that, 1:12:58.439 --> 1:13:00.880 but this is something I'm consistently doing in anyway. So 1:13:01.080 --> 1:13:03.679 just the benefits that I was quickly seeing from taping 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:06.240 my mouth shut at night and being conscious of the 1:13:06.280 --> 1:13:08.200 way I breathe throughout the day. Like I'll sit there 1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:10.599 and driving my truck or I'm driving in the nice 1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:15.200 Chevy Silverado, and uh, I'll just notice how I'm breathing. 1:13:15.280 --> 1:13:17.360 Like if my mind scrambled and I'm thinking about busting 1:13:17.360 --> 1:13:19.599 a lot and I'm thinking about whatever my next workout 1:13:19.680 --> 1:13:22.200 routine is, or juggling ball or just any of that stuff, 1:13:22.520 --> 1:13:24.880 I'll realize that my breasts are a little shorter, I'm 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:26.840 in my chest a little bit more. I'm actually breathing 1:13:26.840 --> 1:13:28.519 a little bit more out of my mouth when I'm 1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:29.599 thinking about a lot of stuff. 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:30.880 My head's full of jargon, for sure. 1:13:31.240 --> 1:13:33.760 And when you sit there and slowly and you start 1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:36.240 just being conscious about breathing through your nose, breathing, breathing 1:13:36.280 --> 1:13:40.000 into your stomach, it is crazy how much how much 1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:41.040 we're mouth breathers. 1:13:41.120 --> 1:13:43.919 Yeah, and it's but it's that first level of awareness 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:46.519 you get, like so like like right the first time 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:48.559 that I was at that conditioning day with the Texans, 1:13:49.080 --> 1:13:51.320 I heard people breathing for the first time, and I 1:13:51.880 --> 1:13:53.960 knew I wasn't breathing that hard. So I was like, 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:55.800 all right, I'm cool, Like this is like I'm about 1:13:55.800 --> 1:13:57.760 to bury the Yeah yeah, and like that's weakness, like 1:13:57.920 --> 1:13:59.760 and and fighters see the same thing. You see a 1:13:59.760 --> 1:14:02.720 guy dog tired, mouth breathing, like all right, blood in 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:05.880 the heat off, yeah, blood in the water. He says, 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:12.400 fucking cut his head off. Let's go off. Yeah, you said, Connor, 1:14:12.680 --> 1:14:13.479 get the fuck out of here. 1:14:13.520 --> 1:14:16.600 Bloss with that negativity, dude, we'll talk about I know, 1:14:16.680 --> 1:14:16.960 it's just. 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:19.760 All the time. He just I thought Connor looked good. 1:14:19.920 --> 1:14:23.080 And obviously yeah, clearly. 1:14:22.800 --> 1:14:25.080 He was nasal breathing because he got up swinging. 1:14:26.240 --> 1:14:28.840 So you were Connor and he was poor. 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If your mouth breathing and a 1:17:17.880 --> 1:17:19.800 lot of things trigger mouth breeding. If you eat like shit, 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:22.840 like your stomach is solving a problem, it needs more 1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:26.200 auction to solve a problem. Like oxygen is an anti bacterial, 1:17:26.240 --> 1:17:28.839 anti viral too. It's just a lot of things compound 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:30.400 into it, and you can solve a lot of your 1:17:30.439 --> 1:17:31.360 problems with your breath. 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:35.840 Yeah, okay, no, I was gonna ask about these ice 1:17:35.920 --> 1:17:37.559 bats too that we've been looking at. 1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:39.559 Oh yeah, gid y up. Oh bro, this is my man. 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:42.240 Brian will walk out into the wilderness frozen, whether he's 1:17:42.240 --> 1:17:45.479 in Alaska, Montana, anywhere up north. He'll find a laker 1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:48.360 river nearby, frozen on top. He'll bring a shovel, he'll 1:17:48.400 --> 1:17:50.640 bring a pick axe, he'll chop a hole into it, 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.960 and you'll go and sit in this cold ass fucking yep. 1:17:54.640 --> 1:17:55.200 Yeah it's finny. 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:57.839 So yeah, the cold shit like look up cold shower benefits. 1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:00.760 That's small stuff. But this this, you do this shit, 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:02.960 I'm like, yo, you're just on a completely different level 1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:03.880 with this cold therapy. 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:07.920 Yeah, for sure, yeah, like yeah, for sure. So like 1:18:08.160 --> 1:18:10.320 we like with mindstrong, we use it as a tool, 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:13.240 Like how can we put you in a stressful environment 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:15.760 and show you that breath work is a tool. So 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:17.840 like the first we'll put you in the ice, which 1:18:17.880 --> 1:18:19.960 is like what we call that, like our stadium, like 1:18:20.240 --> 1:18:22.720 a stadium with eighty thousand people with music bumping and you, 1:18:22.880 --> 1:18:25.400 responsibility and eyes on you, like attention. All those things 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:27.599 are stressors. So that's the only stress that we can 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.400 make similar to that. So we'll put you in there, 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:32.320 and like a lot of people's first response is a 1:18:32.360 --> 1:18:35.559 short shut like that, and like that's a problem. That's 1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:37.360 not a tool, Like you're hurting yourself. So like we 1:18:37.520 --> 1:18:40.040 we'll teach you again the relationship, how to dump CO 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:43.080 two so that the next breath, the auction gets in, 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:45.840 calms the system gets to the cell. And so now 1:18:46.000 --> 1:18:47.519 like the breasts a tool to beat the cold, to 1:18:47.560 --> 1:18:49.880 beat the stress, and you can use that in a stadium, 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:51.160 you can use that in the ice. You knew all 1:18:51.200 --> 1:18:53.240 the things, but like it's just yeah, like if you 1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:55.879 if you can't breathe an environment, you can't own the environment. 1:18:56.080 --> 1:18:57.519 If you can't breathe in a position you can't own 1:18:57.560 --> 1:18:59.400 the positions the same in weightlifting and that kind of thing. 1:18:59.760 --> 1:19:02.920 But no, like the honestly, like the reason I love 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:06.360 the the ice so much is it's forced meditation for me. Like, 1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:08.559 like ice sucks every time. It doesn't matter how many 1:19:08.600 --> 1:19:10.400 times I've done it that nobody wants. The hardest part 1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:12.120 is like the thirty seconds before you get in that thing. 1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:14.360 You no question, I'll wake up, tell myself, I'm gonna 1:19:14.400 --> 1:19:16.000 hit a cold shower the next morning, I'll wake up. 1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:18.800 Yeah, but you're start turning it up to that heat. 1:19:19.120 --> 1:19:20.800 Yeah, but you're fine when you get in though, Like 1:19:20.960 --> 1:19:23.240 it's not it's not the end of the world every time, like, but. 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:24.840 For sure, but when you get in, you're little you know, 1:19:24.880 --> 1:19:26.799 you're a little cold, you're a little naked, you're a little. 1:19:26.560 --> 1:19:28.360 Afraid, you know right when you. 1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:32.760 Know, when you turn that when you turn that knob, dude, 1:19:32.800 --> 1:19:35.880 and that cold just hit you. Yeah, it's just but yeah, 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:37.280 once you get past, yeah for sure. 1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:40.040 But like and like there's not a crazy soup and 1:19:40.080 --> 1:19:43.439 amount of benefits to the ice by itself because it's 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:45.200 like a vaso constrictor and that kind of thing. But 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:47.839 like you get the uh, the focus and the awakeness 1:19:47.880 --> 1:19:49.519 from the narrow up and nefferent hit and that kind 1:19:49.520 --> 1:19:51.760 of thing. And it's it's also like it's like making 1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:53.680 your bed, like it's something you don't want to do, 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:55.400 but you should do it. Start shut yourself out with 1:19:55.439 --> 1:19:58.200 some accomplishment, that kind of thing. But like, but like 1:19:58.280 --> 1:20:00.200 the three minutes and the ice, especially in nature, just 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:02.680 like forced meditation, like I'm not anywhere else, I'm there. 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:05.720 I'm focusing on my breath and and it's chilling. Then 1:20:05.760 --> 1:20:07.600 once you get out, like your your numb anyways, like 1:20:07.640 --> 1:20:09.320 getting your legs and the cold type your legs numb 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:11.240 up and you don't feel anything after a minute anyways, 1:20:11.680 --> 1:20:13.360 So you'll get out from there and I'll do some 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:14.200 breath work after. 1:20:14.080 --> 1:20:15.880 I get out of But I mean you're sitting in 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:18.360 their neck up, yeah, neck up, Like what kind of 1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:20.759 benefit do you have from that cold water immersion? 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:22.439 It's just more you know what I'm saying, you're kind 1:20:22.439 --> 1:20:22.920 of you're. 1:20:22.880 --> 1:20:24.800 Kind of like just going over it, saying there's not 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:27.640 a lot of there's not tremendous benefit, but there is 1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:28.439 in cold water. 1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:31.080 Yeah for sure. Yeah. Yeah, So obviously one the first 1:20:31.120 --> 1:20:34.519 you control the breath. It's like it's an immune system booster, 1:20:35.520 --> 1:20:38.640 but like it's it's literally like again, like I just 1:20:38.720 --> 1:20:41.000 call it forced meditation. Like but like so now if 1:20:41.040 --> 1:20:42.800 you if you, if you want to get deeper into it, 1:20:42.840 --> 1:20:43.880 I don't know how deep you want to get to, 1:20:43.960 --> 1:20:46.120 like the cold chalk and heat chop proteins. But like 1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:49.320 I primarily use ice now as a contrast on a 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:52.280 recovery day, gotcha, And then like I'll use it like 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:54.360 cold chower to wake up in a cold chower, to 1:20:54.360 --> 1:20:56.040 go to bed to get my body temperature down. 1:20:56.240 --> 1:20:58.920 What kind of recovery methods do you use, like with 1:20:59.040 --> 1:21:02.400 hot cold cold? I do the sauna, So explain what? 1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:04.439 Yeah there, yeah, so like that's where you see some 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:07.439 crazy benefits and it's like it's a great flush recovery. 1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:10.640 But so you start three minutes in the cold, you 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:12.519 get a heavy sweat, try and get your heart right 1:21:12.600 --> 1:21:14.400 up above one twenty in the sauna, get a good 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:16.880 sweat gone, another three minutes in the cold, you'll go 1:21:17.000 --> 1:21:17.439 neck up. 1:21:17.320 --> 1:21:19.160 In the cold, right yep, every time, and then you'll 1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:21.080 go straight from the cold, you'll get in the hot sauna. 1:21:21.400 --> 1:21:24.320 A traditional sauna are we talking in for it traditional sauna. 1:21:24.320 --> 1:21:25.040 They give a little hot. 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:29.640 Like two ten, and then you'll try to work up 1:21:29.680 --> 1:21:31.600 get your heart rate up over one twenty. So for 1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:33.200 how long do you get in the sauna? 1:21:33.240 --> 1:21:35.360 The saunas like it depends on the temperature, Like it's 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:36.840 two hundred, you can get you can be out in 1:21:36.920 --> 1:21:39.240 fifteen minutes. If not, it bleeds on a little longer. 1:21:39.400 --> 1:21:42.000 And everybody's different too, everybody responds to the heat differently. 1:21:42.520 --> 1:21:45.200 So but so it's three rounds, so three three touches 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:46.719 of the ice. But the last round of the ice 1:21:46.800 --> 1:21:48.880 is just uh usually just a dunk or like a 1:21:48.960 --> 1:21:51.840 dunk and hold your breath underwater under the ice tub 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:53.360 for a little bit. Do you finish in the ice? 1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:55.040 You finish in the ice for recovery. But like the 1:21:55.080 --> 1:21:58.080 big thing there is like what people don't realize is 1:21:58.120 --> 1:21:59.880 it's it turns into a workout. Like some of our 1:22:00.000 --> 1:22:02.759 hockey guys will burn like seven to nine hundred calories 1:22:02.800 --> 1:22:05.439 sit like going because usually the cycle takes around an hour. 1:22:05.920 --> 1:22:08.200 And these guys like like again, where you burn a 1:22:08.240 --> 1:22:10.439 lot of your calories is your cardiovascular system and you 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:12.360 have all these little muscles on like the veins and 1:22:12.439 --> 1:22:15.760 arteries that vaso constrict vasodilite heart rate gets up in 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:17.800 the heat. Then you get back in vaso constrict and 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:20.080 you're working these little muscles and you end up burning. 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:22.679 Like it taxes your nervous system, but like you'll sleep 1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:25.080 like a baby after it. It's phenomenal. And then then 1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:28.280 you're also like you're killing weak cells like like the cold, 1:22:28.360 --> 1:22:30.400 like the cold shock proteins, heat chark proteins. Just start 1:22:30.640 --> 1:22:34.200 becoming like a tougher human to kill. Yeah, yeah, a 1:22:34.280 --> 1:22:37.240 tougher human to kill. I mean you get the juice flowing, right, 1:22:38.200 --> 1:22:39.840 but now there's yeah, but now there's like all these 1:22:40.000 --> 1:22:43.080 life metaphors and all this like primal step back where 1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:45.200 like we're not meant to live in ac We're not 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:47.120 supposed to go from seventy degrees in our house to 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:49.160 our car to work to our car and home. Like 1:22:49.280 --> 1:22:51.200 we have energy systems in our body to fight the 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:53.080 cold and the heat, but we don't use them anymore. 1:22:53.479 --> 1:22:55.760 So like where does that energy system go? Like some 1:22:55.880 --> 1:22:58.400 people say it's like the autoimmune diseases, whatever the hell, 1:22:58.479 --> 1:23:01.960 but like that's all here's but like like it makes 1:23:02.040 --> 1:23:04.920 you more comfortable in extreme environment, So why would you 1:23:05.000 --> 1:23:09.439 not train yourself that way? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but. 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:12.880 Practically just to get this recovery method out there. Three 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:15.880 minutes in the ice neck up yep, fifteen minutes probably 1:23:15.960 --> 1:23:19.360 around fifteen minutes in the sauna, three minutes again in 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:21.320 the ice neck up yep. Fifteen to twenty in the 1:23:21.360 --> 1:23:23.960 sauna again yep, and then you'll land what's just completely 1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:25.960 immerging yourself to a breath hole under water, Just take 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:28.040 a dip fully in yep, and then you'll get out. 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:30.200 Yeah, and dude, you'll like something like some people feel 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:32.479 high after like you like, it's just like a really 1:23:32.560 --> 1:23:34.479 cool feeling. Dude, it's a you gotta feel it. 1:23:34.760 --> 1:23:38.160 The Ben Greenfield, his one would be uh, his one 1:23:38.320 --> 1:23:41.360 was like fifteen minutes in the in the heat, five 1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:43.920 minutes in the cold, fit in the basically three rounds 1:23:43.920 --> 1:23:46.160 and you would end on a cold shower. Yeah, so similar, 1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:47.800 the same kind of thing. Yeah, and doing it in 1:23:47.840 --> 1:23:50.040 training camp especially all like on an off day, bro, 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:53.360 you do feel incredible. 1:23:52.520 --> 1:23:54.840 All that Like that pump you're getting in your veins 1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:57.360 and arteries and stuff, it like flushes out your soreness. 1:23:57.400 --> 1:23:59.280 I got like I tweak my back dead lifting the 1:23:59.360 --> 1:24:01.479 other day and like I'd hit my son and ice 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.760 and like it starts. There's a noticeable difference between before 1:24:04.800 --> 1:24:07.040 and now. Noticeable. It's crazy, it does. 1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:09.439 It feels really good when like you know, you drop 1:24:09.479 --> 1:24:11.560 when when we'll drop our stones and actually do the 1:24:11.600 --> 1:24:14.720 cold water submersion like for real, because sometimes you're just like, fuck, 1:24:14.760 --> 1:24:16.720 I'm not just trying to get I'm not trying to 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:18.519 completely emerge myself underwater. 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:19.559 Yeah you know what I mean. 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:21.519 Because we'll like stand in the cold tub, like Taylor, 1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:23.320 we call ourselves like account of Bill buddies back in 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:25.719 like eighteen when we were on the Titans uh together 1:24:25.960 --> 1:24:28.280 even this year too though before you know he had 1:24:28.280 --> 1:24:30.960 his acl But you know, you go from the sauna. 1:24:31.360 --> 1:24:33.280 But in COVID this year the saunas were shut down 1:24:33.320 --> 1:24:36.560 so you couldn't activate those facilities. But when we do it, 1:24:36.680 --> 1:24:38.439 you'd sit there and be in the sauna together and 1:24:38.479 --> 1:24:39.760 then you'd be in the cold tub and you back, hey, 1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:41.800 are you gonna go under water? Yeah, like I don't know, 1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:44.040 not today man, And then you just emerge yourself down 1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:45.800 in the cold water. You get in like the steam room. 1:24:45.960 --> 1:24:49.640 But you do you feel absolutely incredible? Yeah, do we 1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:52.679 have anything else, And then you also touch on there's 1:24:52.720 --> 1:24:53.400 been a banger pod? 1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:54.320 How long we went? 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:57.599 Uh, you're at an hour and twenty six minutes. 1:24:58.080 --> 1:25:00.679 Time flies when you're having fun, boy, I was gonna 1:25:00.880 --> 1:25:01.599 you've been rolling. 1:25:01.880 --> 1:25:05.200 I was gonna ask about so, you know, like chiropractors 1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:07.920 and stuff like that, the like I guess you can 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:10.040 get your nose adjusted or you can open up your 1:25:10.439 --> 1:25:12.759 your airways. Have you seen that done with like the balloon? 1:25:13.000 --> 1:25:15.360 Yeah, a little bit. I haven't done it myself, so 1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:15.840 I can't like. 1:25:15.880 --> 1:25:17.479 Are you not a chiropractor guy? The way you kind 1:25:17.479 --> 1:25:18.280 of just chuckled right there. 1:25:18.400 --> 1:25:23.040 No, I'm you know chiropractice. I was just I was intrigued. 1:25:23.080 --> 1:25:25.640 I was intrigued at the next step on that that conversation. 1:25:26.560 --> 1:25:28.800 Now I've done more like the TMJ work where they 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:30.800 like adjust like the fashon around your jaw and like 1:25:30.880 --> 1:25:32.960 inside your mouth and your tongue and stuff. That stuff 1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:34.240 I think works fantastically. 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:37.080 But no, Taylor's alluded to doing something like that, like 1:25:37.400 --> 1:25:39.760 stuff inside of his mouth and yeah, ship to where 1:25:39.800 --> 1:25:41.760 he'll like move his hand like just do some like 1:25:41.920 --> 1:25:43.360 uh just weird kind of ship. 1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:46.160 Yeah, like your fashion pattern starts in the mouth, so 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:47.960 like it's a good place to start. Then I have 1:25:48.080 --> 1:25:50.760 my jaw obviously, so I constantly like just like kind 1:25:50.800 --> 1:25:53.439 of RPR through my like my fashion, my neck and stuff. 1:25:53.439 --> 1:25:54.920 So like you just find a bunch of sore spots. 1:25:55.640 --> 1:25:57.439 But dude, when they get their fingers and your like 1:25:57.479 --> 1:25:59.080 they'll put gloves on the stubble when they get your 1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:01.400 fingers and dig into your cheeks and stuff like that 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:05.240 sounds it bites. But then like but then like you realize, 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:07.519 like but like like like how often do you like 1:26:07.640 --> 1:26:10.679 go through like grinding your teeth and like clenching or whatever. 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:12.880 You don't really know, but like once they open that up, 1:26:12.920 --> 1:26:14.360 you're just like, oh wow, Yeah. 1:26:14.800 --> 1:26:17.240 When I was doing my uh that RPR stuff that 1:26:17.280 --> 1:26:19.600 we've talked about, what does r PR stand for? By 1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:23.880 the way, you know you're the leader, you're right now. 1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:28.519 But when I was getting assessed in r PR, I 1:26:28.720 --> 1:26:30.800 was a jaw driver. You're like there's like a few 1:26:31.040 --> 1:26:32.640 different drivers, and I was like a jaw driver. So 1:26:32.720 --> 1:26:36.360 anything something happened, I'm like clenching at my jaw, but and. 1:26:36.560 --> 1:26:38.679 The dude would just rub The dude would be rubbing 1:26:38.760 --> 1:26:42.479 my jaw out. That sounds real. No pause, but that 1:26:42.560 --> 1:26:44.960 shit hurts. Yes, that shit fucking hurts. 1:26:45.040 --> 1:26:45.120 Bro. 1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:47.719 What the fuck? Blast? 1:26:48.680 --> 1:26:51.720 Sorry blashes threw up on the on the YouTube's he 1:26:51.840 --> 1:26:52.360 threw up somebody? 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:55.320 Is that what you're talking about? That's adjustment you're talking about? 1:26:57.960 --> 1:26:59.400 That looks like a clean nose break. 1:27:04.960 --> 1:27:06.679 Cody Garbrant, he's a UFC fighter. 1:27:06.800 --> 1:27:10.559 Hey, where we hearing that? You get a speaker back here? 1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:18.040 What Yeah, they're hanging on your microphone. Oh yeah, yeah, 1:27:18.080 --> 1:27:21.240 But Cody Garbrant, he's a UFC fighter. And uh, this 1:27:21.400 --> 1:27:23.080 is kind of how I first learned about it on 1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:26.000 uh on YouTube. He does this before any fight. He 1:27:26.120 --> 1:27:27.800 just kind of opens up his airway with that uh, 1:27:27.920 --> 1:27:28.439 with that tool. 1:27:29.240 --> 1:27:34.160 Yeah. Oh fuck. I'm mentioned to see if he's holding 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:36.559 his breath while he does that, Like, how do how 1:27:36.600 --> 1:27:41.120 do they keep the pressure there? Who is it? What's 1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:41.400 his name? 1:27:41.520 --> 1:27:42.360 Cody Garbrant. 1:27:42.640 --> 1:27:51.000 He reached out to him, m dude, fly like asking questions. 1:27:51.360 --> 1:27:52.960 Yeah, and he's he's just putting like he was on 1:27:53.000 --> 1:27:53.679 the Ultimate Fire. 1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:55.000 He putting. 1:27:55.040 --> 1:27:56.800 He's putting guys through it. Yeah, it's something that he 1:27:56.880 --> 1:27:57.360 did before. 1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:01.120 Yeah, but but the point is, like that space in 1:28:01.200 --> 1:28:03.600 the body is malleable, like you like you can improve it. 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:11.240 That looks terrible, man, I know, it. 1:28:11.320 --> 1:28:13.639 Just got you so conscious of breathing and like touch 1:28:13.720 --> 1:28:15.479 and touching sensitive spots on your jaw. 1:28:19.720 --> 1:28:22.240 There was a so was doctor Serrano. 1:28:22.720 --> 1:28:26.560 There was like like that that dog whistle sound, you 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:28.519 know what I mean, like depending like the supersonic sound 1:28:28.520 --> 1:28:29.880 I would get in my ear every now and then 1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:31.320 it would just like come and go to where I'd 1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:33.560 be like death for a second. I'd hear like the 1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:35.360 super sounding noise kind of come through my ear to 1:28:35.400 --> 1:28:36.599 bring the sound back in my ear. 1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:40.160 And I was obviously nervous about it, like yeah, what 1:28:40.240 --> 1:28:40.880 the fuck's going on? 1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:43.240 And wondering if there's like you know, the first thing 1:28:43.280 --> 1:28:45.200 you think of as a full players like brain stuff 1:28:45.400 --> 1:28:47.960 or like CTE and ship like that reaching out to 1:28:48.000 --> 1:28:50.320 Serrano and he's talking, He's sending me videos like working 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:52.400 my jaw out and stuff, and I mean. 1:28:52.760 --> 1:28:54.840 It didn't work. It didn't work. 1:28:54.960 --> 1:28:57.599 It did work because I was this was happening probably 1:28:57.720 --> 1:28:59.680 a few times a week, and it was kind of 1:28:59.720 --> 1:29:02.680 starting scare me a little bit. And uh, you know, 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:07.040 obviously doctor Serrouno, he's just a mad scientist. Yeah, went away, 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:08.920 But this shit is crazy, Like all this stuff that 1:29:08.920 --> 1:29:11.559 we're sitting here talking about. Hopefully people are still tuned 1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:13.920 in and like juiced up about it. Like me, if 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:15.840 I'm hearing this kind of stuff on the podcast, I'm 1:29:15.920 --> 1:29:17.840 so locked in. It's got me like reading whatever. Like 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.080 when I when we refer to oxygen advantage, like the 1:29:20.120 --> 1:29:22.840 shit's already bought. Like that's usually how like I work. 1:29:22.880 --> 1:29:24.800 If I hear something, I get super curious about it. 1:29:25.080 --> 1:29:26.680 I'm like ready to go all in on trying to 1:29:26.720 --> 1:29:29.160 figure it out. Because like you with the podcast, you're 1:29:29.200 --> 1:29:31.920 being called chasing edges, like you're finding these edges you're 1:29:31.960 --> 1:29:34.160 trying to like chase and just be better. Yeah, you're 1:29:34.160 --> 1:29:36.400 trying to, like, yo, that'll make this seems like it'll 1:29:36.400 --> 1:29:38.280 make me a better athlete or perform better. Like I 1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:39.800 need to fucking do it because that's like the one 1:29:39.800 --> 1:29:40.559 percent I can get. 1:29:40.479 --> 1:29:42.120 Better, yeah guaranteed, And I just want to like that. 1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:44.160 Like like that got started back when I was like 1:29:44.200 --> 1:29:46.519 in the arena ball is like like I need an 1:29:46.640 --> 1:29:48.280 edge like it. So eventually I was like to keep 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:50.320 chasing edges and I found more things to improve on, 1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:52.240 and now I just want to know, like what all 1:29:52.240 --> 1:29:55.280 these other athletes and doctors are doing just to optimize performance, 1:29:55.320 --> 1:29:58.439 because like I think, like competition like breeds this really 1:29:58.520 --> 1:30:00.920 cool curiosity to be the best. Yeah, So like guys 1:30:00.960 --> 1:30:03.680 are doing again, they're they're searching pep tides, They're doing 1:30:03.760 --> 1:30:06.360 something like they're supplements, news, types of training. You got 1:30:06.400 --> 1:30:09.120 the pool training. Now you see uh Atasanya, the the 1:30:09.240 --> 1:30:13.040 UFC fighter doing the breath work and the yeah yeah yeah. 1:30:13.080 --> 1:30:14.920 So you get guys just like pushing the edge of 1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:17.320 performance and like but then like you got some guys 1:30:17.360 --> 1:30:19.720 that just stick to these fundamentals, like they're like their 1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:22.560 mental performances, like their ability and their wit and like 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:25.040 their work ethic keep them there. Like like I had 1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:27.800 Nate Ebner on as one of my first guests, and 1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:32.920 his mental framework is just ungodly when you say mental framework, 1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:35.120 Like what do you mean, Like just how he approaches 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:40.040 doing his job, Like what's non negotiable, how he eliminates distraction, 1:30:40.360 --> 1:30:42.760 Like some distractions like the register in my mind, don't 1:30:42.760 --> 1:30:45.120 even register in his Like he just like he is 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:47.160 the definition of a pro that has the ability to 1:30:47.400 --> 1:30:50.960 like sustain focus and discipline. He played for the Pages 1:30:51.000 --> 1:30:52.600 for nine years. Like there's a reason why, Like he 1:30:52.720 --> 1:30:54.760 fit into that program. He's on the Olympic team for 1:30:54.840 --> 1:30:56.960 what rugby? Yeah, for rugby and twenty sixteen for Rio. 1:30:57.040 --> 1:30:58.560 Then he just had to step out of the the 1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:02.840 Tokyo Olympics to get ready for the NFL season this time. Yeah, 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:03.599 he's a savage. 1:31:05.880 --> 1:31:08.240 We interrupt this episode to bring you a message from 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:10.160 our friends at Sling. 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:11.719 Sling. 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:17.559 That'd be a sick nickname. It could be a sweet 1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:19.760 nickname for your dog. Do you have nicknames for your 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:24.240 dog and not just a normal name? No, just straight 1:31:24.320 --> 1:31:29.960 up sling. Okay, fair well. 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Boundless? 1:33:32.600 --> 1:33:34.920 Boundless? It is a huge fucking book, but. 1:33:34.960 --> 1:33:38.800 Yeah, it's a textbook on bio hacking and like again 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:43.200 roots supplements, anything and everything like breath work, meditation. It 1:33:43.280 --> 1:33:45.080 goes down all the rabbit holes and he does he 1:33:45.160 --> 1:33:46.840 did a lot of like heavy lifting for everybody to 1:33:46.920 --> 1:33:48.120 have this amount. 1:33:47.800 --> 1:33:50.040 Of exactly he's done the like he's went down those 1:33:50.120 --> 1:33:53.599 dark alleys to find all this information that's accessible to everybody. 1:33:53.680 --> 1:33:55.720 Yeah, he's an investigative reporter. And then so now he 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:57.720 just put his efforts into that. So that's dope. But 1:33:57.800 --> 1:34:02.000 like that stuff is just regardless if I'm playing football 1:34:02.080 --> 1:34:03.920 or not. Like I want to optimize and I want 1:34:03.960 --> 1:34:06.639 to like live better and have enough energy to pursue 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:09.439 crazy thing like whether it's a like a podcast or 1:34:09.479 --> 1:34:11.640 a new job or like relationships and that kind of thing, 1:34:11.680 --> 1:34:13.960 like you want you want to give your fucking best. Yeah, 1:34:14.120 --> 1:34:16.200 so I think that stuff's cool and that kind of 1:34:17.320 --> 1:34:20.519 I guess that that world of chasing edges goes down 1:34:20.520 --> 1:34:24.640 a lot of rabbits. Yeah, but it got me an 1:34:24.680 --> 1:34:27.519 opportunity in the NFL, like you might get another one, bro, yeah, 1:34:27.600 --> 1:34:29.559 God will and that like snappings a new edge. 1:34:29.640 --> 1:34:31.760 Yeah yeah, hey fuck it man, you get back in 1:34:31.840 --> 1:34:32.439 you you really are. 1:34:32.520 --> 1:34:36.320 You're You're an example of chasing edges and staying persistent 1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:40.400 and staying focused and staying discipline while obviously dabbling and 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:42.680 other things that keep you happy and keep you going and. 1:34:42.680 --> 1:34:44.800 Shit like that. But it's it, really is. 1:34:44.880 --> 1:34:47.040 It's cool to see what your clim has been and 1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:49.719 the respect you've gained as far as being a captain. 1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:51.200 I know that stood out to me singing all these 1:34:51.280 --> 1:34:53.479 leagues you were in before you became that and then 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:56.759 obviously staying steady two years out and you're still chasing, 1:34:57.080 --> 1:34:59.280 not still chasing like you need it, but it's just 1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:00.760 cool that you got it in your back, like you 1:35:00.840 --> 1:35:03.120 got that club in your bag, so you know what 1:35:03.160 --> 1:35:05.640 I mean. It's dope, man, and I I really do 1:35:05.760 --> 1:35:07.840 I fuck with you, you know that. And uh, I 1:35:07.920 --> 1:35:10.479 appreciate you coming on. But when's your podcast Chasing Edge 1:35:10.560 --> 1:35:11.000 is gonna drop? 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:11.960 You think middle August? 1:35:12.120 --> 1:35:14.080 Middle of August, keep a look out for the boys 1:35:14.120 --> 1:35:16.640 will obviously pub it. But uh, seriously, man, thanks for 1:35:16.720 --> 1:35:19.040 coming on. This ship was insightful. Yeah, appreciate you and 1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:22.479 motherfuckers who are still listening and about this. Subscribe rate 1:35:22.560 --> 1:35:25.519 review five stars. Go follow the boy Brian Peters at 1:35:25.600 --> 1:35:28.479 Brian Underscore Peters ten. Go see all of his GQ 1:35:28.720 --> 1:35:31.040 looking model photos where he's just sitting in ice all 1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:33.799 the time. 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