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Speaker 2: Ready, clap clap, clap action. This is another episode of
Speaker 2: Busting with the Boys. I am your host, William Merrol
Speaker 2: Kompton third. My co host today is he goes by
Speaker 2: the name Brian.
Speaker 1: Peters, Brian Edward Peters. Before we get.
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Speaker 2: a big Chevy guy?
Speaker 1: I had a Chevy Tahoe for about eight years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm a Chevy guy. Did to treat you well,
Speaker 1: treat me great, and then drowned in the Harvey flood
Speaker 1: really out of Texas. Yeah, got water up to the windshield.
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Speaker 1: Something like that.
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Speaker 2: with the old boy. Brian Peters. Brian, your background. You
Speaker 2: went to the Universe or you went to Northwestern University.
Speaker 1: You're a nerd.
Speaker 2: You went you are a transitional safety that went to linebacker,
Speaker 2: that moved to linebacker in the league. Before you got
Speaker 2: to the league, you were in Arena Football, Canadian Football.
Speaker 1: UFL in between there, I got.
Speaker 4: I got so you were the UFL in between Arena and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did like training camp and I got cut
Speaker 1: from from the UF. You got cut in the UFL,
Speaker 1: the league I didn't want to be in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you went up to Canada.
Speaker 1: Canada, Yeah, Canadia. Yeah, Yeah, they'll they'll fix you if
Speaker 1: you cracked that.
Speaker 4: And then you finally made it at what age to
Speaker 4: the NFL.
Speaker 1: I was a twenty six year old rookie with the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Holy shit, dude, yeah, madness.
Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to have Brian on Obviously he's
Speaker 2: gritty and all this type of shit, But the dude is,
Speaker 2: you have a perspective, a work ethic. You have a
Speaker 2: lot of shit. So Brian and I met each other
Speaker 2: through like a doctor. We both like consult with a trainer.
Speaker 2: He helps with like when we go and get our
Speaker 2: blood work checked out, nutrients, any deficiencies we have, any
Speaker 2: injuries we have. I saw Brian's jersey hanging the WALMA, like, oh,
Speaker 2: do you know Brian. You know Brian Peters asking the
Speaker 2: doctor doctor Serrano, shout out doctor Serrano, no free shoutouts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a fucking Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: He said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thinking, hey, no, disrespected the Puerto Rican shout
Speaker 2: out to perto Ricans. But doctor Serrano is a crazy
Speaker 2: Porto Rican. He's a mad genius, a scientist with supplements. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh, somebody will Brian's like my son, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I had respected Brian from AFAR because he
Speaker 2: was a captain for the Houston Texans, which we're going
Speaker 2: to get in all that stuff because I think it's
Speaker 2: incredible that you arena football cut now that we know
Speaker 2: from the UFL Canadian Football NFL, you become a captain
Speaker 2: amongst like a roster filled with like you know, all
Speaker 2: the savages, JJ Watt, the.
Speaker 1: Hop we had Tyranne, you had some j Jo Jonathan Joe.
Speaker 1: So if we have dogs on that team, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can follows it. What's your Instagram.
Speaker 1: Brian underscore Peters ten. You can check out all.
Speaker 4: His shirtless photos on Brian Underscore Peters ten.
Speaker 1: Up to your neck and the eyes anything but yeah,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the only jealous.
Speaker 2: I can't look like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Maybe at some point in time when I can put
Speaker 2: the food down, I actually have some discipline and not
Speaker 2: go into the pantry at night with the munchies, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Those Trader Joe's dark chocolate peanut buttercups.
Speaker 2: They hit those dark chocolate covered almonds. I'm a big
Speaker 2: chocolate guy at the end of the night. What are
Speaker 2: you talking about? What is it? Just Brian flex and
Speaker 2: most muskyther and I just shoot all the eyes to
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you can see a.
Speaker 1: Garrett All laughing.
Speaker 2: He's like, fuck, I'm missing it. But dude, where it
Speaker 2: even start? I mean, let's talk about why in the
Speaker 2: you'd play Arena football?
Speaker 1: Oh dude, it so. I mean it started on draft day,
Speaker 1: like obviously, like I'm training for the Combine and didn't
Speaker 1: get invite to the Combine. Like I had a good
Speaker 1: senior season. I was playing safety at the time. I
Speaker 1: led the big tenant interceptions that year, Like thought I
Speaker 1: had a chance at least to get it, like undrafted, uh,
Speaker 1: free agent deal something along those lines. Draft day rolls on,
Speaker 1: I get zero phone calls. I get the only person
Speaker 1: that called me on draft day was my agent, and
Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald asked me, like what the deal was.
Speaker 2: And you, uh, sorry interrupt, but you had the most interceptions,
Speaker 2: you were coming off the most.
Speaker 4: You said something, you had a stat getting off.
Speaker 1: I led the big tenant interceptions, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so like at least like some kind of look for
Speaker 1: like a roommate. Some plays had a hunter tackle like
Speaker 1: that kind of deal, Like I thought I had a chance.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying, like, you can't even get a
Speaker 1: rookie mini camp tryout now. So so so as the
Speaker 1: story rolls on, So like four days later, we had
Speaker 1: a Northwestern guy down in the Buccaneers training camp and
Speaker 1: he got me in for like the tryout and their
Speaker 1: mini camp. And their mini camp was crazy because it
Speaker 1: was Schiano's first year down there. Oh I I've never
Speaker 1: heard good things, dude, Savage. So like, so it's a
Speaker 1: three day mini camp and we're running two A days
Speaker 1: and so we got to two A days and then
Speaker 1: one more practice, but we're doing strength and conditioning in
Speaker 1: between the two days so we hit a workout, or
Speaker 1: so we hit a practice, then we did a workout
Speaker 1: and we run hundreds during at the end of the workout,
Speaker 1: and then we go out for a second practice. So
Speaker 1: I'm playing safety at this point. Second practice, we have
Speaker 1: three linebackers pop hamstring. So I go down and play
Speaker 1: sam linebacker because I was the biggest safety. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have some soft tissue injuries too, Yeah, fucking yeah. Little overtraining,
Speaker 1: a sprinkle of overtraining. So I switched down to sam
Speaker 1: backer and ended up holding my own. I had Brian Cox.
Speaker 1: He's an old dog from oh I saw good videos. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's either he's a he's a saucy motherfucker. He's a stud.
Speaker 1: But like that was like my first lesson and like
Speaker 1: showing like I had a good camp. They're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you come back here and you gain twenty pounds that
Speaker 1: kind of deal. So I was like, all right, I
Speaker 1: got a chance to get signed. I'm leaving feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1: And I had like another work out the following weekend
Speaker 1: for the Bears mini camp, and they like that was
Speaker 1: like but like so down in Tampa. That was Mark
Speaker 1: Baron's rookie year. So he was like a safety that
Speaker 1: came in and did they end up having like another
Speaker 1: undrafted freegent sign that kind of thing. Anyways, long story short,
Speaker 1: they didn't sign me, but I got like my first
Speaker 1: lesson on like how to show up for a workout
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. Brian Cox was a savage.
Speaker 1: He's like basically saying, like, any chance you have a
Speaker 1: time to show your physical show effort. He goes, never
Speaker 1: lose that. Because there's like a time I met this
Speaker 1: full back in a hole and it was tag off
Speaker 1: and like I tagged off. He goes, would you hit
Speaker 1: him there? I was like, I was like, yeah, of
Speaker 1: course I would have dropped him. And he goes, no,
Speaker 1: we're not in pads with just some helmets. And he
Speaker 1: goes he goes, I don't know that. He goes, never
Speaker 1: passed up an opportunity to fuck up, fuck up a dude.
Speaker 1: I was like, and that's stuck in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind. And that showed up up in the CFL.
Speaker 1: But like from there, went to the Bears work Bears
Speaker 1: tryout and did I bawled like I had two picks
Speaker 1: in the mini camp. They had this third round draft
Speaker 1: pick that he didn't pan Out. He was out of
Speaker 1: the league in like two years, but like outplayed him.
Speaker 1: Thought I had a chance. But like that was those
Speaker 1: two camps, Like they showed that I could They told
Speaker 1: me in the back of my head I could play,
Speaker 1: like I knew I could play now, So like that's
Speaker 1: why I went through all these other leagues.
Speaker 4: So that's why you're hanging. You're like, yeah, I'll I'll
Speaker 4: see this through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so like so now I'm back in Northwestern
Speaker 1: I'm living on a couch behind my or I'm living
Speaker 1: on a bed behind my buddy's couch in their apartment
Speaker 1: in like northern Chicago, and uh, and I'm working oddjobs
Speaker 1: on personal training kids. Uh dude, I'm babysitting, like I'm
Speaker 1: doing demolition for this this hockey player and his family
Speaker 1: and just getting getting by. And I'm training at this
Speaker 1: scrappy phenomenal gym, this boxing gym, and the basement at
Speaker 1: ten pm at night. So I'm popping pre workout at
Speaker 1: nine point thirty, going to this basement, getting it done,
Speaker 1: waking up in the morning, going back doing again. Make
Speaker 1: money enough to get by. And so my agent, like
Speaker 1: nobody's saying anything, so he sends me out for the
Speaker 1: summer to arena football the Iowa Barnstormers where Kurt Warner played.
Speaker 1: Shout out the Iowa Barnstormers. Yeah, shout out the Iowa Barnstormers.
Speaker 1: But they so my agine goes go out there, like
Speaker 1: play for a few weeks, stay in shape in case
Speaker 1: NFL calls. And I was like, all right, bet, So
Speaker 1: I get out there. I drive out to Des Moines, Iowa,
Speaker 1: and I get there and like I'm I already think
Speaker 1: I'm on the team. And I get out there and
Speaker 1: it's a thirteen man tryout for two spots for like
Speaker 1: to end out the season. So I'm like, well, let's right.
Speaker 4: I end out the season of an arena football team.
Speaker 1: Yep. So I get there and it's thirteen man tryout,
Speaker 1: end up making the team, me and one other kid,
Speaker 1: and so out there getting paid three hundred bucks a
Speaker 1: week before Texas to play football. Dude. Some of the
Speaker 1: most fun football they were playing in my life though,
Speaker 1: So is that.
Speaker 2: Just because it's just like I just freedom. It's like
Speaker 2: keep playing high school ball again, dude.
Speaker 1: I was playing this jack linebacker position where I start
Speaker 1: on what like the short side of the field, and
Speaker 1: my only job is that you check run and then
Speaker 1: you run horizontal and hit anybody of any other the
Speaker 1: other team's color. And you're smashing dudes in the walls.
Speaker 1: Like you're launching dudes over the wall. There's people pouring
Speaker 1: beer on you. Like I'm talking more shit to the
Speaker 1: fans and I'm talking to the players. It was so
Speaker 1: much fun, phenomenal.
Speaker 2: So what were the fans like, are they just like
Speaker 2: trying to drag you a little?
Speaker 1: But everybody's chirping you and like like there's people like
Speaker 1: on dates. It's just it's like a it's a cool
Speaker 1: environment because you can hear and then like there's people
Speaker 1: right behind your bench talking the whole time. So it
Speaker 1: was fun. It was It was a good experience. And
Speaker 1: then for three hundred bucks. For three hundred bucks a week,
Speaker 1: and I mean they they covered like an extended stay too,
Speaker 1: so like it's a little we'll call it even seven
Speaker 1: hundred a week. But uh so then went went back
Speaker 1: like it was working and training in Chicago still and
Speaker 1: then my agent got me a tryout with the UFL.
Speaker 1: So I went out with the Omaha Nighthawks. Uh shout
Speaker 1: out Nebraska.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shut out in Nebraska. I think there were some
Speaker 2: of the boys that were out there playing on the
Speaker 2: Omaha Nighthawks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can the only like Maurice Clarett was there
Speaker 1: for a couple of days and like that was the
Speaker 1: last I heard of him. But he but anyways, like
Speaker 1: went out on a tryout, made the team, came back
Speaker 1: to Chicago for a week, then went back out for
Speaker 1: training camp. And at that time, SO went through training camp,
Speaker 1: had a good training camp, and then NFL had their cuts.
Speaker 1: They picked up all the loose NFL guys, so cut
Speaker 1: half the roster. I was out of there, crushed, thought
Speaker 1: like my foot all career was over because my agent
Speaker 1: wasn't saying shit. And then I came back to Chicago
Speaker 1: like kind of kept training. My agent was just like like,
Speaker 1: we don't want to go to Canada because you have
Speaker 1: to sign a two year deal all like I said,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I want to play football, and
Speaker 1: you get back to the NFL. So he sends out
Speaker 1: lines to his CFL contacts and NFL again hang on
Speaker 1: slow down.
Speaker 4: So how long were you in the arena circuit? Like
Speaker 4: you're still kind of in it right now?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, So arena's done. Arena was like four
Speaker 1: or five weeks. So at what point of the year
Speaker 1: is Arena playing. I think that was June, so like then,
Speaker 1: so you're in June about to go into the new
Speaker 1: NFL training Yeah, so like the next season, so I
Speaker 1: guess it was July. No, so July, so my rookie,
Speaker 1: so that was twenty twelve I came out, ye, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, so probably July. And then whenever cuts are
Speaker 1: in football August yeah yeah, so like so it's probably
Speaker 1: middle of July to August. And because of then, yeah,
Speaker 1: so then there's a week week or ten day break
Speaker 1: before the UFL. I was in the UFL for two weeks.
Speaker 1: NFL had their cuts wash the board. So now NFL
Speaker 1: is starting, I'm hearing nothing from NFL or CFL, and
Speaker 1: the CFL is wrapping up their season. CFL is a
Speaker 1: summer league. So my agent gets crickets. I go, dude,
Speaker 1: give me everybody's emails, all email them from my perspective.
Speaker 1: So I email say, hey, Brian Peters, I'll be a
Speaker 1: dog for you. It's it's trash when I look back
Speaker 1: at it now. I still got the email too, It's
Speaker 1: so I read it every now and then. For like Jews,
Speaker 1: but yeah like juice yeah, like yeah, so just the
Speaker 1: like motivate me, like makee shit happen once I can
Speaker 1: do it again kind of deal. And then so I
Speaker 1: email all the CFL guys, all the NFL guys. One
Speaker 1: team response to Sketching Rough riders like I had my
Speaker 1: highlight tape and crap on.
Speaker 2: There, and then like yea, all be a dog for you.
Speaker 2: Check the tape. Yeah, check the tape. Yeah you want
Speaker 2: to check tape?
Speaker 1: What movie is that? That's the I don't know, couple's retreat.
Speaker 1: You want to check tape?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about full back being like a being
Speaker 1: like an all say high school full back. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: uh so that anyways, Sketching Rough responded and then responded
Speaker 1: to me. So then they never even talked to my
Speaker 1: agent at the time, so they said, hey, yeah, come up,
Speaker 1: we'll throw you on practice squad and you can sign
Speaker 1: a deal after that. So I was like bet so
Speaker 1: I talked to my agent. He negotiated my contract really quick,
Speaker 1: which was their minimum, and then went up there, which
Speaker 1: is showing Canadian highlights right now, Oh here we go.
Speaker 1: Brian Peters, who has in fourteen defensive highlights. You'll see
Speaker 1: some linebackers, some safety on here. I did a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything up there. I see just getting nasty
Speaker 1: a little bit. Oh you go, Daddy got in there.
Speaker 1: Daddy got in there. I love that. But anyway, so
Speaker 1: I went up there, and then this is where, like,
Speaker 1: this is where I started getting seered to doctor Serrano.
Speaker 1: So I got, how old are you me? I'm twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm twenty five about to turn twenty six,
Speaker 1: and twenty six is a death birthday for me. So
Speaker 1: I go up there. I'm on their practice squad for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and I signed my two year contract.
Speaker 1: So this is for thirteen fourteen. And so the day
Speaker 1: I get back is a Thursday. It's my birthday Halloween.
Speaker 1: So I get back and like one of my birthdays
Speaker 1: on Halloween, my birthdays on Halloween, we're a big Spootober podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh big, Like we're big spootob guy. Okay, big dress
Speaker 1: up party for the birthday kind of guy. But I
Speaker 1: get back and my buddy Jeremy Ebert just got cut
Speaker 1: by the Patriots, and so he was in town. He's
Speaker 1: got money in his pocket. He goes, let's go out
Speaker 1: for your birthday dude. He was my college roommate for
Speaker 1: four years. And so we go out from and all
Speaker 1: my other buddies couldn't make it out because it had
Speaker 1: worked the next day. So me and him go out.
Speaker 1: We get rowdy, and I end up getting jumped by
Speaker 1: three bouncers. So I get like, what you do?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I ended up getting jumped by three bouncers.
Speaker 2: It sounds ramadic, But what did you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not. It was not uninstigated, but uh no.
Speaker 1: So all right, so like I like the dance when
Speaker 1: I go out that I was prevacive with that. So
Speaker 1: we're at this bar, I know the DJ at the
Speaker 1: bar's in Columbus, and I'm dancing on stage with some
Speaker 1: girls having a great time. Bouncer comes over, weighs me down.
Speaker 1: He goes, no guys dance on stage. I go all right,
Speaker 1: so come on. Yeah, So I jumped down off stage
Speaker 1: and like I proceed to like walk to the bar,
Speaker 1: grabs my arm, pulls me back. He goes, no, you're
Speaker 1: out of here, dude, and I go for dancing on stage. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I give him a little little attitude and he uh
Speaker 1: and ends up kicking me out. I go peacefully. I
Speaker 1: was like, just don't grab my arm, Like, I go
Speaker 1: out peacefully, and I'm not rock rocked at this point.
Speaker 1: So and at this time these there's three bars that
Speaker 1: are connected by inside doors. So I go and go
Speaker 1: into another bar, and I walk back into the bar
Speaker 1: and join my people. This goes on for a few
Speaker 1: more hours. The boys are drinking and drinking, and we
Speaker 1: get to the point where I'm buying shots at the
Speaker 1: bar and pretty saut up got like my buddy and
Speaker 1: a group of girls with us, and I'm ordering shots.
Speaker 1: Uh people start to grab the shots as I'm buying them,
Speaker 1: and like, I turn around and there's we don't have
Speaker 1: enough shots. So I start politely our drink with the bar.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, we don't have enough shots, and
Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, we do. Like you're just being drunk,
Speaker 1: which I was, and then she waves over the bouncer,
Speaker 1: same bouncer they kicked me out the first time. And
Speaker 1: so I'm so, I'm dressed as it's Halloween. I'm dressed
Speaker 1: as Batman and he goes, oh, Batman's back. He goes
Speaker 1: Batman's back, and uh so, anyways, this time they don't
Speaker 1: take me out the front door. Him and two other
Speaker 1: bouncers escort me out the back door. He my buddy
Speaker 1: at the time. He sees me arguing with these bouncers
Speaker 1: at the back door. He runs over. He goes, we're
Speaker 1: leaving guys. We're leaving guys. And then he goes, I'm
Speaker 1: calling our ride. We're out of here. So he goes
Speaker 1: out the back door first, and the back doors like
Speaker 1: connects alley to the street, and then so and then
Speaker 1: more so their security can put each other too. But
Speaker 1: so I turn around and I try and get the
Speaker 1: last word with the bouncers. Didn't work out. My last word,
Speaker 1: no clue. I was your boy was a little great
Speaker 1: out at this point, but like, so get the last word,
Speaker 1: walk out, and then next thing I know, someone's trying
Speaker 1: to rear naked me from behind. I turned into some punches.
Speaker 1: I'm down on the ground. I'm out. My buddy runs back,
Speaker 1: jump like jumps, push the guys off. Guys go back inside.
Speaker 1: But so we get in the car and luckily his
Speaker 1: cousin that was picking us up, is it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, I was t K I was down, and
Speaker 1: my buddy turns around and said he saw me getting
Speaker 1: stomped out and yeah, so I got like I got cut,
Speaker 1: yeah batman. But so, but so like that's where again
Speaker 1: another time where I thought football was gone too. But
Speaker 1: so we get in the car and like his cousins
Speaker 1: in dental school and like checks me out, my teeth
Speaker 1: are moving, my jaws moving, My jaws broke. So I
Speaker 1: go to the hospital, uh and ended up getting surgery
Speaker 1: that night on your jaw, on my jaw, So I
Speaker 1: have a plate and seven screws in my jaw and
Speaker 1: they uprooted a bunch of teeth, so I have like
Speaker 1: I have like ten fake teeth on the bottom, like
Speaker 1: I had a flipper, like the whole time in Canada,
Speaker 1: I had flip out teeth. So like I told her,
Speaker 1: I was a hockey player. But yeah, so you you
Speaker 1: legit get sucking like I get wrecked. You fucked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I spend I spend seven weeks wired shut, thirty hours
Speaker 1: in the dentist chair like that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 1: but so that night, so like obviously like I'm here
Speaker 1: with doctor Toronto a little bit at this point, and
Speaker 1: my mom calls him at like three in the morning says, hey,
Speaker 1: Brian got jumped, like he needs like surgery tonight, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Toronto calls this doctor, this oral surgeon.
Speaker 1: She comes in from like two hours away at three
Speaker 1: in the morning to do the surgery kills it I
Speaker 1: have any problems like that kind of thing, but like
Speaker 1: at the time, like they're like, your mandibles are cracked,
Speaker 1: really weird, all this stuff like you might you might
Speaker 1: not be able to play football again. So I'm like
Speaker 1: fuck like like I'm like I did this to myself.
Speaker 4: Are you still in the Batman costume?
Speaker 1: No? I did not wake up in the Batman costume.
Speaker 1: They let me go into surgery like that. But but
Speaker 1: so anyways, uh wake up, Like i spend like a
Speaker 1: week on the couch. I'm I dropped fifteen twenty pounds
Speaker 1: really fast. I'm sipping liquid percocet like a juice box.
Speaker 1: And doctor Toronto comes over and he goes like, get
Speaker 1: off your ass, you pussy. He and so like, so
Speaker 1: I'm over there. No, he's a man, and and he
Speaker 1: like he cares more than anybody, which is really cool.
Speaker 1: Like he like he's he's a tough dude, but he cares.
Speaker 1: So I started training with him for the last six weeks.
Speaker 1: I was wired shut and by the end of that
Speaker 1: six weeks, I was ship. I was almost up to
Speaker 1: like linebacker weight, so I gained more weight than I lost.
Speaker 1: I was the strongest I've ever been because like, but
Speaker 1: I was, I mean, I was drinking everything, like I was, dude.
Speaker 1: I was blending up steaks, I was blending up cookies.
Speaker 1: I was blending up Chipotle. So like my diet was
Speaker 1: like three liter cups and I was just drinking my
Speaker 1: entire diet and made it happen, and supplements and everything
Speaker 1: but bananas. So yeah, it's super crazy. But anyways, uh
Speaker 1: from there, that's fucking nuts. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean that's I did. I did to myself.
Speaker 1: I got your boy got a little too crazy and
Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah for sure, but I still didn't deserve
Speaker 1: that ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like nobody's gonna be, you know, blending up steaks
Speaker 2: and Chipotle and thinking about getting their way back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so like kind of at this point now,
Speaker 1: like I like I I kept training with them and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and then eventually went back and
Speaker 1: did northwesterns Pro Day the following year, and I was
Speaker 1: switching the linebacker at this point. Now is gonna go
Speaker 1: play some linebacker safety in Canada. And since I didn't
Speaker 1: get a shot at safety, I'm gonna try and play
Speaker 1: linebacker because I know I can play. And so I
Speaker 1: go to the Pro day. I run faster, jump higher,
Speaker 1: like all my numbers are better, even though I gained
Speaker 1: twenty pounds. So and that's where like now, like I
Speaker 1: see the relationship between the leg strength, the supplements, all
Speaker 1: these things. So I start to go and like I
Speaker 1: started to get like addicted to the to the gym
Speaker 1: into like bettering myself and chasing these edges to be
Speaker 1: just to be better and get the shot that I wanted.
Speaker 1: So I go up to Canada, and low key I
Speaker 1: got cut from Canada and they put me on Pea
Speaker 1: squad for a little bit. And then in the story
Speaker 1: and so the only reason I got active the first
Speaker 1: time in Canada so that in Canada football fields longer
Speaker 1: and wider and the field goal is on the goal line.
Speaker 1: So this one of our other like our weekside linebacker
Speaker 1: was covering this post route and runs into the field
Speaker 1: goal and breaks his collar bone. And so I get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be active and start eating on special
Speaker 1: teams up there and eventually earn the starting spot on defense,
Speaker 1: play another year up there and get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: come back to uh the NFL with the with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: But that was a whole another mess in and of
Speaker 1: itself because I get back or sorry, I'm at home
Speaker 1: after my contract and the the the rough Riders call
Speaker 1: me and say, hey, who's your agent because they don't
Speaker 1: remember because I initially initially made the contact. Yeah. So anyways,
Speaker 1: they're like, like, the the Eagles and the Saints want
Speaker 1: to work you out. So I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: like put them in touch with my agent. I work
Speaker 1: out for the teams, but I work out for the
Speaker 1: Eagles first, have a really good workout, and they they
Speaker 1: do your blood work and X rays and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff at the workouts, and they go, hey,
Speaker 1: something's wrong with your blood work. It's probably it's probably
Speaker 1: a lab air, but uh go get your blood work
Speaker 1: tested to get and sent to us. And I'm a Serano,
Speaker 1: so uh I was like, Doc, like, I say, I
Speaker 1: have low blood platelets and I go, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that means. And he goes, oh shit. He goes
Speaker 1: like low blood plates usually means cancer and all these
Speaker 1: kind of crazy things. So we'll go get a ton
Speaker 1: of test done. But eventually I find out I have
Speaker 1: this rare blood condition called itp idio thrumbo side opinia
Speaker 1: and explained low blood paga idio thrombo side opinia. But
Speaker 1: it's just unexplained low blood platelets, and like, so basically yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, but so, but basically, like, I'm very susceptible
Speaker 1: to like gunshots and stab wounds. I'll probably die if
Speaker 1: I get shot or stabbed. A lot of people would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm very susceptible to gunshots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of us are.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but it's not Eventually. I got to the
Speaker 1: I found out enough about it down the road once
Speaker 1: because I so like I made the mistake of going
Speaker 1: to the Saints for the next workout and I killed
Speaker 1: the next workout like ran high four five like shuttled
Speaker 1: like in the like six seven again like three cone
Speaker 1: shuttle that kind of thing, like good workout. I had
Speaker 1: their pro personnel guy, Terry Fontau, like saying, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna sign you. I was like bet, like I'm I
Speaker 1: got a shot in the NFL. And then he goes,
Speaker 1: but we gotta get but you have this blood thing.
Speaker 1: We gotta get that figured out. Like we've never had
Speaker 1: this before. So like he's like, we'll link you with
Speaker 1: our hematologists, our blood doctor, and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: Don't hear anything for them for a few weeks, and
Speaker 1: the CFL starts calling their freeency opened and so up there,
Speaker 1: like the money goes fast. So like basically every day
Speaker 1: of freegency up there, I'm losing like ten grand a
Speaker 1: day if I'm going back to the CFL. My agent
Speaker 1: can't get a hold of anybody in New Orleans. So
Speaker 1: and I have this other agent call me asking me
Speaker 1: about my contract in there because he's got another guy
Speaker 1: that's negotiating. We're trying to drive the price up all
Speaker 1: this stuff. Anyways, like this agent was like more speaking
Speaker 1: my language. My other agent wasn't doing shit. So I
Speaker 1: fired the other agent, which I should have done years before.
Speaker 1: But and so he gets me in touch with the Saints,
Speaker 1: gets me phone down there, but they're gonna have me
Speaker 1: sign an injury waiver where if I don't if I
Speaker 1: don't heal on any like any injury concussion, pulled hamstring, sprain, finger, whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't heal on their timeline, they can cut me
Speaker 1: without pay, no injury settlements and that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and which was trash. And so that agent was like no,
Speaker 1: and we're still talking to them. And then I switched
Speaker 1: agents and that agent got me three workouts in twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. So that's the first time was like, oh,
Speaker 1: agents do kind of matter. Yeah, they do matter, like
Speaker 1: their connections matter. And then a couple of days later,
Speaker 1: I worked out for the Vikings. Didn't tell them about
Speaker 1: my blood condition. They never even noticed in my blood
Speaker 1: work and that kind of thing. Had a good off
Speaker 1: season with them. Love Minneapolis, really cool locker room up there.
Speaker 1: They put me on Pea Squad. I'm twenty I know
Speaker 1: it's a shit show of the story, but I'm twenty six.
Speaker 2: All this happens from the moment you get yet on
Speaker 2: your birthday, yeah, twenty three to twenty five, Yeah, yeah Jesus.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so I get to Minnesota, and that's why
Speaker 2: I link up my guy Harvey, who we have the
Speaker 2: mind Strong project with now the Breathing Company.
Speaker 1: But so I'm there link with him. But uh, they
Speaker 1: put me on Pea squad. I was on peace squad
Speaker 1: there for three weeks and like and then on like
Speaker 1: a Tuesday, I'm at like a charity event for the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and I get a call and my agent said, hey,
Speaker 1: the Texans want to sign you. Go to the airport
Speaker 1: and like, I have a flight in three and a
Speaker 1: half hours, So like, I hustle home, leave my car there,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff and hang on.
Speaker 4: So you made the you you were in Vikings training camp.
Speaker 1: No, I was like, I was in Vikings training camp,
Speaker 1: and they put me on practice squad when the right So.
Speaker 2: When the season is done, they cut you and put
Speaker 2: you on practic squad. You're there for the first three
Speaker 2: weeks yep. Which season is this twenty fifteen twenty fifteen season?
Speaker 2: And then in three weeks your agent calls Texans want
Speaker 2: you to sign active.
Speaker 1: Yep with them? Yep. All right, and so and the
Speaker 1: kind of the little dance I went through here now
Speaker 1: is if somebody signed you off practice squad, they have
Speaker 1: to keep you active for three games to give you
Speaker 1: an accredited season yep. And so however much money that
Speaker 1: equates to. But the Vikings want me to stay there too,
Speaker 1: so they offered me full salary guaranteed to stay there
Speaker 1: for the whole you're on practice squad, and they said
Speaker 1: they'd get me up as soon as they could to
Speaker 1: active roster. So I'm sitting at the airport trying to
Speaker 1: make the decision whether to stay for half a mil
Speaker 1: or go and play three games for whatever twenty K
Speaker 1: game or whatever it equates to. And so I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there like trying to make decision. I have equity build
Speaker 1: up there, the coaches know me whatever. The same story
Speaker 1: with all those guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for everybody listening to, like when you're on peace
Speaker 2: squad and you're like a You're a solid player that
Speaker 2: they know can potentially develop or get activated for them,
Speaker 2: but they know they can hide you on practice squad
Speaker 2: until somebody finds you. That's essentially what happened with Brian
Speaker 2: is the Texas society, you know, we want this kid now.
Speaker 2: The Vikings have to Now Brian has leverage to leave.
Speaker 2: So what they would do is offer that salary style
Speaker 2: pay so you can play like you're on the active
Speaker 2: roster but stay on practice squad, and then they'll throw
Speaker 2: everything in the toolshit at you. Be like, you know
Speaker 2: you have a good reputation here, you have good relationships here,
Speaker 2: We'll get you up as soon as we can. Like
Speaker 2: it's all negotiating, it's all like yeah, mind games.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's but it's empty promise correct. Yes. And so
Speaker 1: I got to the point where one of my buddies
Speaker 1: hit me with a line that was just a switch
Speaker 1: for me. I called Dan Percy, is a quarterback in
Speaker 1: Northwestern with me, and he goes, Dude, you spent three
Speaker 1: years in three different leagues to play in the NFL,
Speaker 1: not practice in the NFL. I was like, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: try good. I'm on the plane and so I and
Speaker 1: I've been talking to my mom and my brother and
Speaker 1: my buddies and that kind of thing during this whole deal.
Speaker 1: And I get on the plane, my uh my parents
Speaker 1: call me and they're like, you know what, me and
Speaker 1: your dad talked. We think you should stay in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, Dad, I'm on the plane.
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, Like we're more conservative you than that
Speaker 1: conservative conservative than you anyways, Like good luck. So I
Speaker 1: go down there, start playing Week four down there and
Speaker 1: put like put together like a great season I was.
Speaker 1: I led the NFL and special teams tackles with twelve
Speaker 1: games played, so like I like got their kind of
Speaker 1: like there you get their attention. Yeah, kid, got their attention.
Speaker 1: Got leverage, and like the leverages everything in the NFL,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, how many times did you have leverage
Speaker 1: on a team to know like, yeah, they're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna sign me back, or know that you like you're
Speaker 1: adding enough value that they're going to keep you right, Like.
Speaker 2: The injury waiver stuff was the same situation I've explained
Speaker 2: before on the podcast. But when I went and tried
Speaker 2: out for Oakland and they wanted to sign me, they
Speaker 2: had an injury waiver sitting in front of me being
Speaker 2: like if anything on my like my right leg, anything
Speaker 2: on my right leg gets damaged, they can cut me,
Speaker 2: wash their hands, not have to rehab me, not have
Speaker 2: to pay for any surgery. Like if I tore my ACL,
Speaker 2: they don't have to pay for it. They can just
Speaker 2: cut me and do away with it. And I was
Speaker 2: able to be like, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 2: do that, Like I'm gonna leave. Do you mind getting
Speaker 2: me a flight back to Nashville, Like yeah, we can
Speaker 2: get that set up. Pre I'm sorry it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: Twenty minutes later, they walk back in like, hey, May
Speaker 2: outcomes in.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, if we do away with this injury waiver,
Speaker 2: would you sign. I'm like yeah, He's like, let's make
Speaker 2: it happen. So it's just crazy how that kind of
Speaker 2: stuff works. Like if you have a little bit of
Speaker 2: leverage or a little bit of anything, it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like life is a negotiation too, so oh guaranteed.
Speaker 1: But even that, Like I mean, yeah, they're protecting themselves
Speaker 1: and they're making their business decisions and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like they.
Speaker 2: Were trying to tell me, Will is on, Will's taking
Speaker 2: indocent and an anti inflammatory and you know that that
Speaker 2: raises eyebrows for us. And I had just sprained my
Speaker 2: ankle and got an injury settlement with the Saints during preseason.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, I'm on it because I sprained
Speaker 2: my ankle and aside from that, everyone in the fucking
Speaker 2: locker room is on anti inflammators, and you guys are
Speaker 2: gonna give it to me anyway if I say I
Speaker 2: don't have it, because my agent call is like, why
Speaker 2: would you tell him that, I'm like, because it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter to me.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I just let them know?
Speaker 2: Hey, Like you know, I'm I'm doctoring my ankle a
Speaker 2: little bit and I'm still on stuff, and he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can hurt yourself. That's why they want
Speaker 2: to put the injury settlement. It's like, well, all right,
Speaker 2: it doesn't like it doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now that you're fighting fire and you want
Speaker 1: me to lie to them, So like it's.
Speaker 4: Just when we're all doing it anyway, like everyone down
Speaker 4: in the lock.
Speaker 1: Dy is time planmatory, like the I mean, like they're
Speaker 1: starting to tighten up the tourtle and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But like like an anti inflammatory is are
Speaker 1: a problem and then that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Mean I'll ever stop doing them because they get me
Speaker 2: through the season, like they get me through playing football.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. But but so you started like kind
Speaker 1: of balancing that with like the peptides and stuff too,
Speaker 1: didn't you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like the BPC one seven because that helps
Speaker 2: with like leaky gut I've talked about before it actually
Speaker 2: introduced it talking on the EMRR podcast, I felt a
Speaker 2: little queasy talking about it because the way he was
Speaker 2: explaining how he learned about it, seeing the needles and
Speaker 2: everything else. And I was kind of like, you know, dabbling,
Speaker 2: educating a little bit on it because you just don't
Speaker 2: want people to.
Speaker 1: Think like you're doing something, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like having the peptides with it as well
Speaker 2: to help with the leaky gut and anything that those
Speaker 2: anti inflammatories can cause, like in your gut lining, because
Speaker 2: that's essentially what happens is it tears up your insides right,
Speaker 2: like the bleeding that goes on inside. Like it sounds
Speaker 2: way worse than I feel like it actually, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to make people think
Speaker 2: we're dying the inside out, but you know, it destroys
Speaker 2: your gut a little bit, Yeah for sure. Just yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm full, you know, I'll be on anti inflammatories, Like
Speaker 2: anytime you're about to play, like toward ALL, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: you're trying to get toward ALL. Like you know a
Speaker 2: guys who you know, I knew, dudees wh would take
Speaker 2: like two toward ALL before a game started, and then
Speaker 2: another one at halftime.
Speaker 1: For sure. I mean they hand them to you at halftime. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that stuff will never stop.
Speaker 2: They'll they'll make it look better as they should like,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, like you know,
Speaker 2: if you're if you're if you're playing, and you're trying
Speaker 2: to continue to play and make the team and and
Speaker 2: put out good tape and good film, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, throw it in my fucking system. Deal, well, well
Speaker 1: scrape me off the field, bro, yeah, which is which
Speaker 1: is the vibe. But like so like, but what caught
Speaker 1: up to me with that blood condition too, is they
Speaker 1: wouldn't give me any anti inflammatories because like, because I
Speaker 1: already have thin blood, they don't want that. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I didn't get that luxury.
Speaker 2: So like I was just so you're out there natural
Speaker 2: on that you're white, already behind the eight ball, just
Speaker 2: out there like just being cut everywhere in the Canadian League,
Speaker 2: the arena team, fucking finally getting your shot, and you
Speaker 2: can't even get on the you can't even get on
Speaker 2: the stuff that makes you feel good.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, they couldn't even do like p RP on
Speaker 1: me and stuff like that. So I was always doing
Speaker 1: stem cells whenever I needed it and that kind of
Speaker 1: things for those injuries.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So are you always like checking your blood work like
Speaker 7: doing yeah, decent amount like I mean, I do it
Speaker 7: kind of quarterly anyway, for my yeah, for my hormone
Speaker 7: levels and like my vitamin deficiencies to like just make
Speaker 7: sure I'm balanced and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But like yeah, they always do a CBC on me,
Speaker 1: which just like checks like red white and your platelets
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing, and mine's mine stay low.
Speaker 1: But like but the crazy thing, like I think it
Speaker 1: was kind of like fade or whatever. But the once
Speaker 1: that the Texans found out my second year, like obviously
Speaker 1: I didn't tell them about it once they signed me, right,
Speaker 1: but in the second year, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, but going into the second year is when
Speaker 2: you've led the NFL and special teams tackles.
Speaker 1: Now you're going into the second with the Texans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like trying to establish myself as like a niche player,
Speaker 1: and like so I had like rapes down there. That's
Speaker 1: like saying, we need like special teams, guys, we need
Speaker 1: somebody to take some ownership of special teams street rats yeah,
Speaker 1: gritty yeah, yeah, And so like that that was my
Speaker 1: niche Like that's what like I did that like wholeheartedly,
Speaker 1: like whatever, whatever you do, be good at it. Like
Speaker 1: that was my like that was my thing down there initially.
Speaker 1: But like so they find the blood the blood condition,
Speaker 1: and but like like literally like the world renowned specialists
Speaker 1: and and my blood condition is based in that massive
Speaker 1: medical compound in Houston. So I go over there and
Speaker 1: he like he's doing all these like he's doing uh
Speaker 1: like organ imaging and things like that, and but then
Speaker 1: he like breaks down my blood to like a whole
Speaker 1: other level than all these other blood tests were doing.
Speaker 1: He goes, actually, like you have blood playlists are just
Speaker 1: crazy small, like your your spleen beats him up, but
Speaker 1: you still have blood playlists. And he goes, I used
Speaker 1: to tell people with I t P that you like
Speaker 1: you can't play football or ride motorcycles and that kind
Speaker 1: of thing, but now it's gotta tell him you can
Speaker 1: only not ride motorcycles because now we got at high level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so that was cool. But anyways, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: did four years down in in Houston and that and
Speaker 1: that was the wrap. And I've been I've been trying
Speaker 1: to knock on doors and adapt, oh by any means necessary,
Speaker 1: your boys taking up long snapping, I'm doing anything and else. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll get you a video to block. It's
Speaker 1: a show. To show the show a little bit. Now,
Speaker 1: come on, now you got to get the baby. I'll
Speaker 1: take god, I can get.
Speaker 2: So you you were you were with Houston before we
Speaker 2: get there. You were with Houston for four years. Yep, okay,
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Yeah what year did you become the captain?
Speaker 1: Uh? Not till my last year. Technically we don't really
Speaker 1: have like consistent captains the first couple of years.
Speaker 2: Would you say that's one of your better Like like
Speaker 2: achievements are, oh, no doubt your favorite awards accomplished?
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Yeah, Like just uh being a captain
Speaker 1: in general, Like I think everybody takes leadership differently too,
Speaker 1: Like you don't like you can be a leader, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be a captain and that kind of
Speaker 1: thing too. But no, like I mean just to go
Speaker 1: like I want there's I wasn't supposed to be an
Speaker 1: NFL anyways, Like I wasn't supposed to get out of
Speaker 1: the arena the league, Like I want like three or
Speaker 1: four people get out of the CFL every year like
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I just beat the odds everywhere,
Speaker 1: and like that's where like the chasing Edges mindset comes in.
Speaker 1: Like once I knew I could play, every time I
Speaker 1: got cut, I found three for four new things to
Speaker 1: take on and learn and add to the add to
Speaker 1: the my ability or like my tool belt or whatever. Event.
Speaker 1: Actually they stacked up and got got me the opportunity,
Speaker 1: So I think I enjoyed it like like I I
Speaker 1: was grateful for the opportunity a little more than other
Speaker 1: guys because I went through went the scenic route with it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: after your four years?
Speaker 5: What year?
Speaker 1: What year was your last? The league? You you're on
Speaker 1: You've been out for one full year now two years, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been out for a minute.
Speaker 4: So you're going on your this is this will be
Speaker 4: the third season coming up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's been it's been. It's been. It's
Speaker 1: been a minute.
Speaker 2: So I did so sh it flies because I remember
Speaker 2: I was hanging in Vandy when you came through Vandy
Speaker 2: and we were both fucking on the couch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the boys are still eating the boys training.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Brian, it came to did you come to
Speaker 2: the tailgate one of those bus and tailgates?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys are wrapping up.
Speaker 2: I got we had just finished because he was we
Speaker 2: were hanging out. We did like, you know, some fat
Speaker 2: arm like like an armwork out with little dabber.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But man, it's been a couple of years, but you
Speaker 2: are now trying to get back in through long snapping.
Speaker 2: Explain the long snapping route.
Speaker 1: Well, so I always been like a backup long snapper.
Speaker 1: So like my high school d C he had like
Speaker 1: a couple of coffee with some NFL teams as a snapper,
Speaker 1: so he taught all of us in high school how
Speaker 1: to snap. So I was the backup at Northwestern. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but come on, I love it, but we need to
Speaker 1: get updated tapes. But uh, that's not the that's not
Speaker 1: the table on everybody to check. But anyway, we'll have
Speaker 1: the right straight. But so, actually, up in the CFL,
Speaker 1: uh our long snapper had an a c joint, So
Speaker 1: I snapped for four games in the CFL, and then
Speaker 1: in Houston, uh John Weeks had a hamstring one of
Speaker 1: the preseason games, so I snapped for a preseason game.
Speaker 1: So I've always kind of been the emergency guy. Has
Speaker 1: been like a back Yeah, I mean like it adds
Speaker 1: value like oh the kids, uh hustle linebacker. And then
Speaker 1: he also can be our emergency snapper. Maybe that's like
Speaker 1: the breaking point to keep me on a roster. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: People always make those little side comments say hey, you
Speaker 2: really want to play in the league and last in
Speaker 2: the league, like pick up long snap.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, you got these PUDs that will be
Speaker 4: long snappers.
Speaker 2: You know, no disrespect to the long snappers, but you'd
Speaker 2: be having guys run down the field after snapping the
Speaker 2: ball to go on punt. It's just like, all right,
Speaker 2: you get the punter and the long snapper. They don't
Speaker 2: necessarily count. There's nine guys a block on the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so like that's where like Luke Rhoades
Speaker 1: with Indy is a linebacker, uh, converted long snapper or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he like he's been eating I think he was
Speaker 1: All Pro last year. And so like the special teams
Speaker 1: coach with the Texans was part of that transition. So
Speaker 1: like that's one of the contacts. And then I know
Speaker 1: a lot of special teams coaches around that I'm sending
Speaker 1: tape to and that kind of thing. Playing So you're
Speaker 1: back to the to the grind, to the emails.
Speaker 2: You're back to the emails. Fucking a I'm a dog. Yeah,
Speaker 2: check the snap tape.
Speaker 1: Check the tape. Yeah. So I'll match my physical fitness
Speaker 1: against any long snapper in the league any day of
Speaker 1: the week. So yeah, I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you do, like, I don't see why you
Speaker 2: potentially wouldn't get a shot because you can actually cover
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: But it's it is a crazy skill, like the mastery
Speaker 1: of like hitting the hip every time online.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm not saying anybody can snap into account watching
Speaker 2: your your tape, Like I mean, if you continue to
Speaker 2: work on this, like why wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That's what I'm hoping. That's what the
Speaker 1: boys having to Uh dude, you know, do you know
Speaker 1: I kicked off in the game too? No way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So this is a crazy this is a this is
Speaker 1: a crazy freaking story too. So we're who were going
Speaker 1: going against the Vikings. This was uh Iso Larry Izzo
Speaker 1: was my special teams coach. It was his first year
Speaker 1: and we're playing the Vikings too. Liked Cordero Patterson, who's
Speaker 1: obviously a dog, absolute dog with and so I'm the
Speaker 1: R five and like we're trying to like playing like
Speaker 1: a on side kick. So like, hey, he's yeah. He's
Speaker 1: like the he is the R five. Can you come
Speaker 1: across the ball and like chip shot it over there?
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so I kicked it. He goes, can
Speaker 1: you pooch it over there? Pooched it over there? He goes,
Speaker 1: can you kick it deep? I go, yeah, coach, I
Speaker 1: kicked in high school and so yeah, so this is
Speaker 1: on a this yeah, this is on a Friday, just
Speaker 1: like on like the like the fast So I so
Speaker 1: I kick off and I reached the end zone on
Speaker 1: like just like my first kick, and he goes, do
Speaker 1: it again. So I kick it to the end zone again.
Speaker 1: And then he comes up to me after practice. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run this by, coach, you want to kick
Speaker 1: off on Sunday? I go, hell, yeah, let's go. And
Speaker 1: then so he's hyped me up because, uh, Wes Welker
Speaker 1: kicked off for a few games back ons with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: He goes, dude, Wes had three tackles a game. He goes,
Speaker 1: you just get a rover play linebacker. After the first
Speaker 1: wave of guys, I was like, all right, let's go.
Speaker 1: And so then it comes this is where it gets crazy,
Speaker 1: where now it comes to game day I'm super pumped,
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, coach, should I go out
Speaker 1: and warm up? Like that kind of thing is now
Speaker 1: like you didn't want them practice were good, like this
Speaker 1: is a surprise, like we're like and like so he's
Speaker 1: like scheme and he's like he's he's he's a little
Speaker 1: scatterbrain me. He's the he's the man. Like he's like
Speaker 1: a player's coach once you like, once you cover and
Speaker 1: playing fast. He's a stud coach. I don't want to
Speaker 1: dog on him at all. But he, uh, he goes here,
Speaker 1: I got it. He goes, well, we'll set up a
Speaker 1: ball as you guys run out to uh run out
Speaker 1: for the start of the game. You're gonna warm up kick,
Speaker 1: then ball hit somewhere and they'll know where it came from.
Speaker 1: I was like, coach, that's ridiculous. I'm not doing that,
Speaker 1: but like but that's ride. But so anyway, so first kickoff,
Speaker 1: I kind of I didn't. I didn't kick it great,
Speaker 1: but it like like goes crazy, lands on like the
Speaker 1: end line and we tack them inside the twenty so
Speaker 1: and and then the the second kickoff, he goes, he goes,
Speaker 1: you can pooch it right, like he was a directional kick.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, coach the first team, mostake can
Speaker 1: make it rain out here? Yeah, And uh so, so
Speaker 1: I go to put the ball wherever you want. But
Speaker 1: so I pooch kick it and like it lands on
Speaker 1: like I think it's like the eight nine yard line
Speaker 1: with some height to it like a pro. And but
Speaker 1: I tear my quad on the second kick and so
Speaker 1: I like limp downing like swinging your leg the kick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on that lockout, I popped my rectus memeris that muscle
Speaker 1: on the top. Oh, So I popped my quad and
Speaker 1: uh so I'm out for like four or five weeks.
Speaker 1: So that that was that was a tough injury to
Speaker 1: come back from because it's tough, like they're like the
Speaker 1: only people that hurt this muscle are like Olympic sprinters
Speaker 1: and kickers. I let's sell. Yeah. So that's that's my
Speaker 1: kicking story. So I've I've done the special teams gig
Speaker 1: for so I'm for the brand. I'm a Pat McAfee guy.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, back to the episode love that Ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's a bunch of have.
Speaker 2: You You don't say any teams, but have you had
Speaker 2: any success showing anybody your long snapping tape?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I had one. I had one. Workout said the
Speaker 1: skills there just needs a little more. Fine, So you've
Speaker 1: had to work out. I've had to work out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's fucking go yeah for the boys. Yeah, So how
Speaker 1: do you feel like? What? Like? What what is your head?
Speaker 1: Tel you? Because what I'm like, what I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: is all right, if I've been out of the league
Speaker 1: for two years? Yeah, do you think you think it's dead? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think, all right, do I need to
Speaker 2: start putting my energy in my focus and you know
Speaker 2: the stuff off the field. Do I need to just
Speaker 2: fucking put football to bed and go all in with
Speaker 2: this stuff and stop hanging on at the dream like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get back into the league.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, what's what's going on through your head now? Like
Speaker 4: what's in your headspace now?
Speaker 1: For sure? Like and and I've tried to put football
Speaker 1: to sleep a few times. I uh, I do actually,
Speaker 1: so actually we left the league out. I've been in
Speaker 1: five leagues. I went to the XFL.
Speaker 2: Oh that.
Speaker 1: Was the best. Do you have that video? What video
Speaker 1: where I remember you?
Speaker 2: Because you got signed and you practiced and you did
Speaker 2: an interview and what did you say? You're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just ready to, you know, bust a couple of
Speaker 2: heads and put some tape back up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm coming back. I said something like there's an.
Speaker 2: Interview with the XFL and it's like an XFL fashion interview.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, I'm just ready to like bust
Speaker 2: some heads and get back up on the field. I
Speaker 2: might be hyping it up too.
Speaker 1: Much, but it was something along those lines. It was
Speaker 1: something greaty. Now that's XBT, which is another whole different
Speaker 1: type of training. I got I got it somewhere on
Speaker 1: my Twitter or something. I'll get it cued up for you.
Speaker 4: And then you say that interview and then it all
Speaker 4: the XFL goes a ship.
Speaker 1: Well, so like it was, it was in full XFL
Speaker 1: fashion too. I was gonna start my first game because
Speaker 1: the starting linebacker before that threw a massive right hook
Speaker 1: at the running back, so he was suspended for the
Speaker 1: first half. So just a ship sho. But so you
Speaker 1: show up and then like so we're we're like heading
Speaker 1: to the bus to go play New York and Trump
Speaker 1: shuts everything down and so then the league folds and
Speaker 1: so I steal tape from that and send like the
Speaker 1: practice tape out whatever that look like like I've sent
Speaker 1: out some ridiculous tape over the years.
Speaker 2: I love the fucking commendment. You're sitting practice tape out?
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I need something like the big Oh dude,
Speaker 1: I have this whole other agent story because I flipped agents.
Speaker 2: Before you get into that, you said you tried five
Speaker 2: other leagues since the no I've been in five leagues.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this other day, ARENA, UFL, CFL, NFL, XFL,
Speaker 1: like there's like, what I just need Mexico to have
Speaker 1: open up a league. Now go down there too, Like
Speaker 1: fuck dude, yeah, I mean it's like a fucking movie.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. You can make a movie out of that story.
Speaker 2: We might need to cut that out. We might need
Speaker 2: to edit this out and do our own thing. Just
Speaker 2: getting the tank, just getting the shark thing to think tank.
Speaker 2: If Mark Wahlber can have Invincible, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, we can. We can create some heat. Now,
Speaker 2: what actor is gonna play me?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: Uh? Fuck the way you're hanging on the way you
Speaker 1: still doing it like you're a shape.
Speaker 2: Fucking look at you, hey, Sean, as I say, look
Speaker 2: at you, drop a picture or drop a photo of
Speaker 2: its Instagram like when I say that for the fucking thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, who would you want to play you? If
Speaker 2: you could, if you could have anybody play you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, right right mcconaughe would be tight. I'll
Speaker 1: take I'll take Jason Momo with the long hair. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Some people try to tell me I look like the
Speaker 1: other Hemnsworth brother at one point when I had shorter
Speaker 1: hair Liam, Yeah, so that was trash. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I'll take what. I'll take what I can get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he pulls. So it's a good.
Speaker 2: Who's the the person that people say that the actor
Speaker 2: that looks like me is the different Jurassic Park Guardians
Speaker 2: of the Galaxy. Oh, Chris Pratt, do you guys think
Speaker 2: that people think the people think no, and people think like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can see it.
Speaker 1: I think more. Ryan Reynolds Garrett just smiles like this
Speaker 1: motherfucker dude, h ship Chris Pratt a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: just like it's just like the facial hair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I take him. Listen, Yeah, I fucking
Speaker 4: take Chris.
Speaker 1: Goes punch for punch. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, it goes
Speaker 1: punch for punch, takes a lot of jokes on to
Speaker 1: the gin. Yeah, but no pause. It counts though what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Before, I don't know, we went on
Speaker 1: a nice tangent. Hey get that fucking like we were like,
Speaker 1: do we still want this the saga of the Saga
Speaker 1: of Brian Peters to continue with the agent deal too?
Speaker 1: That was a whole ship show. Way is it now?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 1: This is a new agent and like I wanted like
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger agent, a little more greasy guy
Speaker 1: because I had no leverage because my last year I
Speaker 1: played hurt like I shot my ankle, I took thirty
Speaker 1: shots to the ankle, my last season, like like the
Speaker 1: thirty shots of the ankle and what were we talking
Speaker 1: about here quarters? Yeah, so like so I couldn't I
Speaker 1: really couldn't like feel my foot like the last ten
Speaker 1: games I played in the NFL, because like so they
Speaker 1: misdiagnosed me. They said, like I tore my deltoid ligament
Speaker 1: on the inside, that I could play. Three weeks later
Speaker 1: and we lost three linebackers and injury, so like I
Speaker 1: had a chance to start and play on defense, which
Speaker 1: I hadn't had in the NFL yet. So hustled back
Speaker 1: for the Bronx this Broncos game. Hey, Braves, your coach
Speaker 1: is Rabier. Braves has gone. This is twenty eighteen. He's
Speaker 1: here with the Titans now. So drug you in those
Speaker 1: linebacker meetings? Oh for real, Yeah he's but uh oh
Speaker 1: yeah dude, Uh I got some brave stories too. But
Speaker 1: but anyways, uh we all do. Yeah, if you know brave,
Speaker 1: well you have a story, even if you're a stranger.
Speaker 1: You see them straight. Yeah story. But no, so like
Speaker 1: the deltoy's on the inside of the ankle, But all
Speaker 1: my pain was on the outside, and I keep kept
Speaker 1: telling my trainers my pain's on the outside, I have
Speaker 1: no pain on the inside, like all, that's just the
Speaker 1: inflammation rolling over. So but I ended up so I
Speaker 1: ended up playing ten weeks on half an ankle that
Speaker 1: once they got in for like eventually my calf tour
Speaker 1: from overcomm stating for my ankle and I got they
Speaker 1: got in for surgery, and I had this condra lesion.
Speaker 1: I had this cartilage torn off the bone, and so
Speaker 1: I was playing with that the whole damn time. But
Speaker 1: but anyway, so shoot quarter.
Speaker 2: Zone Yeah, which is dumb as ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a terrible just a band aid. Yeah, exact
Speaker 2: was like the worst thing you can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like I'm getting stem cells going into
Speaker 1: the PRP and that kind of thing. But anyways, so
Speaker 1: like I knew I had no leverage, like like like
Speaker 1: I'm coming off my worst season, Like you know, you
Speaker 1: can't play special teams if you don't have one hundred
Speaker 1: percent in the tank, like like I hadn't. I was
Speaker 1: running like ninety percent of top speed ninety five whatever,
Speaker 1: But you get buried if you don't have top speed agility.
Speaker 1: So I didn't put out a good tape regardless of point. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: let me tell my story. Yeah, that's the story I
Speaker 1: tell myself. It's not like you need insane top speed
Speaker 1: but example right, yeah, but but anyways, Uh, so I
Speaker 1: switched agents I wanted, like because the last deal I
Speaker 1: got from my last one year deal, I wasn't ecstatic
Speaker 1: about it, and so I was like, all right, I
Speaker 1: need someone more contacts this time around and try and
Speaker 1: get deals. So this guy sold me I like I
Speaker 1: had met him through one of my uh Northwestern buddies
Speaker 1: and probably my least favorite human. So I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: and like temper myself a little bit. But so he
Speaker 1: tells a new agent. This new agent, so he tells
Speaker 1: me all these things like he can do for me,
Speaker 1: gives me a timeline for like when we think we're
Speaker 1: gonna get signed, what conversation's gonna have, And so I
Speaker 1: hold him accountable to these things like hey, like Combine's over,
Speaker 1: like where are your conversations at? And he's like he's
Speaker 1: like saying like Tennessee and other things where like like
Speaker 1: like I didn't think Braves was a massive fan of me,
Speaker 1: so I didn't think he was gonna try and get
Speaker 1: me there or anything like that. So I was like
Speaker 1: let's work on other avenues. And then like I'm so,
Speaker 1: I call him like two three times a week. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they're saying, hey, what's up, Like anything happening, like not
Speaker 1: big conversations, and then eventually, like one of his other
Speaker 1: guys fires him, and I was cool with him. So
Speaker 1: we were talking and then at one point, like I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, what's going on? Like like you said,
Speaker 1: like we'd have like opportunities by now, and I got
Speaker 1: to give him a lot to work with this so
Speaker 1: like in hindsight, maybe I wasn't the best client either.
Speaker 1: But he goes, if you want to fire me, to
Speaker 1: go ahead, and I go, I'm not trying to fire you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And so
Speaker 1: we have this conversation. It was a real rough conversation,
Speaker 1: and then like the next time we talked, I ended
Speaker 1: up firing him and going back to my old agent.
Speaker 1: But dude, this conversation with this agent was out of control.
Speaker 1: He goes. He goes, you're a northwestern guy, like you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be high character. Everybody's gonna know you have
Speaker 1: terrible character now now that you fired me. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know forever, Like he goes, if you become
Speaker 1: the CEO of FedEx, he goes, I'm gonna know that
Speaker 1: you still have You're a terrible person, you have terrible character,
Speaker 1: like just lays into me. I was like, listen, dude,
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to like make this a thing
Speaker 1: like if like you've obviously worked for me, I'll pay
Speaker 1: you for your time and that kind of thing. He goes,
Speaker 1: he was, he was, I don't want your money, he goes.
Speaker 1: He goes, I've been in this league or this business
Speaker 1: for fourteen years. You're gonna need the money more than
Speaker 1: I do. Blah blah blah. Just goes him. This day,
Speaker 1: Yeah he's still agent this day. Name ed was Lusky
Speaker 1: It let's fucking go. Yeah. So but anyways, that was yeah,
Speaker 1: that was no no blano. But anyways, switch back to
Speaker 1: my agent, got some calls, got got a few workouts
Speaker 1: worked out for the Saints, like, but things didn't things
Speaker 1: didn't work out.
Speaker 2: I think we were at the same workout. Oh wait, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you worked out before or after me. Uh you might
Speaker 2: have worked out after. I think you worked out after Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is like week three. Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe for
Speaker 2: your spot oh I think. Yeah, I forget who the
Speaker 2: linebackers were because I know when I got hurt. That's
Speaker 2: when the Saints I traded for Keiko Alonso. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And then you were there with like who was Mark Barron?
Speaker 2: Was Mason Foster there? No, I never made the team,
Speaker 2: like I just worked.
Speaker 1: I'm saying at the workout. No, no, no, no, this
Speaker 1: is uh Ray Ray Armstrong was there? Ray Ray Armstrong?
Speaker 1: That's right, yes, right then he then he signed on it.
Speaker 1: It was like week two or three or something. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so that's my last juicy stories you got
Speaker 1: about Billy Oh Billy Oh oh wow, that's an you
Speaker 1: can tell. I mean, there's not like a it's not
Speaker 1: like there's not like crazy stories by any means. Like
Speaker 1: he mean, he he's a he's a tough coach, but
Speaker 1: he's like he's fair in the same sense like where
Speaker 1: he just always I think, got wired up to play
Speaker 1: the Patriots and that kind of thing. That's where my
Speaker 1: favorite stories are, Like when he'd like when he'd come
Speaker 1: in and like try and impersonate Tom Brady's cadence, like
Speaker 1: he'd he'd come in like on the stage of the
Speaker 1: defensive room, and start goes listen, Tom does all this stuff.
Speaker 1: He goes when he points, he doesn't means he's pointing sometimes,
Speaker 1: and like he goes through like all Tom's cadences and
Speaker 1: just goes, ham, so did he got wired up for
Speaker 1: the Patriots games? And that kind of thing. But other
Speaker 1: than that, there's not too many crazy stories like me
Speaker 1: and him weren't crazy tight or anything like that. Like
Speaker 1: I was his guy early because I was productive and
Speaker 1: then my production dropped off. I wasn't this guy, which
Speaker 1: is what have you done for me lately? Kind of league?
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but no, he don't.
Speaker 4: Want to Yeah, you don't want to give a little juice,
Speaker 4: a little juicy story.
Speaker 1: There's no juicy. Oh you're you're referred to the other
Speaker 1: story where he's No, I'm just like any anybody that's like, uh,
Speaker 1: played for coach O.
Speaker 2: It's it's not been like favorable outlooks on the culture
Speaker 2: and the organization and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna say organization the culture of Billy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he'd I mean, he'd like he like he
Speaker 1: has his crazy one line standard and if you're off that,
Speaker 1: like if you don't practice enough, if you like all
Speaker 1: these kind of things like you're not like you're not
Speaker 1: his guy, and he'll he'll single you out in meetings
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. But he like he progressed
Speaker 1: as a coach fantastic while I was there too, Like
Speaker 1: we got there and like you know how like in
Speaker 1: meetings like we're like, I don't know if they do
Speaker 1: this anyway coach.
Speaker 2: Essentially you get mad if you're not like one of
Speaker 2: his guys. Who gets who'll get like praise or.
Speaker 1: Get It's pretty clear clear cut with him, Like he
Speaker 1: like he doesn't bullshit a lot, like you know, if
Speaker 1: he's your guy, you're his guy or not. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And he because he demands like a
Speaker 1: standard up performance and like guys that like so like
Speaker 1: initially when I got there, like I think it was
Speaker 1: like Thursday or Friday, Like he has his like hour
Speaker 1: long quiz, so he's quizzing everybody in the room special teams, offense,
Speaker 1: defense on different scenarios, different jobs and that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff like who's the like best petch teams, like who's
Speaker 1: the punter And if a guy doesn't know, he just
Speaker 1: he'll keep burying you until you get some right or
Speaker 1: peters what's the fucking right answer or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then but like we we we had some we
Speaker 1: had we had some funny ass bits about it too though,
Speaker 1: because he like he also like gauged the level of
Speaker 1: difficulty on the question to the person he was asking
Speaker 1: the question too. It's super funny. So be like cush
Speaker 1: what's their top three runs? And like whatever, pro I
Speaker 1: write whatever. All these things then like Jayalen Jalen, we
Speaker 1: got like if if if you if you run out
Speaker 1: and he throws your ball, do you do you do
Speaker 1: you catch it? Yeah? You catch it? Just goes him
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: But does that a little bit? I mean they might
Speaker 2: get it from like Belichick. Yeah, like the team keys,
Speaker 2: the understanding your person.
Speaker 1: It's a great tool for accountability. Like I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to tell the stories. But like he like but like
Speaker 1: all that stuff is necessary. And then like I also
Speaker 1: think like it like if you can't like if you
Speaker 1: know the information, you can't relay it in a meeting,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be a liability, right, So like if
Speaker 1: if you don't know again, like say they switch out
Speaker 1: a wing or a punter, like all those things, like
Speaker 1: the like little details like you're gonna get exposed at
Speaker 1: one point. If you can't do it, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna do it on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah so you got any uh you you played with Cush?
Speaker 1: Did you play with Cush?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Cause he's your boy. Cush has like a legend out there,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's like, there's like this legend about Cush because he's
Speaker 2: obviously got popped a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Like he's got the bloody photos, he's got this, he's
Speaker 1: got this about Yeah. Yeah, yeah, what's what's Cush like?
Speaker 1: Cush is the man, dude. He I always like, I
Speaker 1: always respect him just because he like guys that like
Speaker 1: train their ass off in the gym, Like I always
Speaker 1: kind of gravitated towards too. Yeah. Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: But so like like when he was on sc with
Speaker 2: mal A Luga and all those boys and Taylor Mays.
Speaker 2: But who's the linebacker course Clay Matthews, Yeah, mal A Luga,
Speaker 2: Brian Cushing. There's another one who played for the Bengals
Speaker 2: for a long time. Yeah, not not Maluga. Another one
Speaker 2: that was like right before mal Luga, not the Bengals
Speaker 2: a long time, but it was, uh, we'll figure it out, but.
Speaker 1: Anyway, but no, your coach like yeah, but like so
Speaker 1: like people see like the fac like it's not a
Speaker 1: facaet he puts on. Like the dude's tough as nails.
Speaker 1: He like like he like if he's there, he's on,
Speaker 1: like he like he he it's dude, he's a fucking
Speaker 1: warrior like so he like and like if once you
Speaker 1: like get to know him and get into his mindset
Speaker 1: to like the dude treats a football game like a
Speaker 1: street fight, like that's what he wires his brain. Four
Speaker 1: crazy New Jersey best Oh crazy New and this dude, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's so many stupid nuanced stories to cush too, where
Speaker 1: like I don't think he timed it perfectly, but he
Speaker 1: did it a lot where I think he timed it.
Speaker 1: So every time we had the team prayer in the shower,
Speaker 1: Coush would be in there puking his guts out. He
Speaker 1: peaks for every game, just puking his guts out, and
Speaker 1: then like he'd be like, screw Peters. I threw up
Speaker 1: the ko Q twelve pill. The whole pill Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's the man he but did he like he
Speaker 1: like that's like that's his deal. Like he's physically plays tough,
Speaker 1: like he gets the job done. He's uh like yeah
Speaker 1: he has this like I mean like the legend and
Speaker 1: like he's like this crazy strong He's an incredibly strong human. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he like he's he's earned all that, like like
Speaker 1: he's he's very respected. Oh yeah, he's fully respected. But
Speaker 1: yeah he's dude, I mean look at him, dude, look shah.
Speaker 1: The prayer showers are the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they'd be like all right, you know, you
Speaker 2: got all the rap music playing, like the murdering songs, this,
Speaker 2: that and the other. It's like all right, prayer and
Speaker 2: shower and the music goes down and it pretty much
Speaker 2: essentially everybody gets stuff there you go. It's just I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just prayer in the shower. It's where
Speaker 2: I have no clue.
Speaker 1: Why is it the show just the only empty space
Speaker 1: because like not everybody comes to prayer either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not everybody goes to prayer. So if you're just
Speaker 2: doing the locker room around people who don't go to prayer, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'll just be like yelling them knock yourself. Hey,
Speaker 2: tell the prayer where Jesus woofs their ass. They're going
Speaker 2: back there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And.
Speaker 2: Then you get done with the prayer, and then you
Speaker 2: come back and then you turn the rat music back up.
Speaker 1: You're ready to go out there and murder somebody. You go,
Speaker 1: put the women and children to sleep, the sins come. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to get right with God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about mind strong and we'll get into because
Speaker 2: you're also trying to get into the podcast or with
Speaker 2: Chasing Edges. But talk a little bit about mind strong
Speaker 2: and your your journey with this whole breath work, performance,
Speaker 2: human performance, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. It uh low key. So it started
Speaker 1: that when I was down in Houston like twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: like the team was paying for us do the sensory
Speaker 1: deprivation chamber like the float tanks, and I was in
Speaker 1: there and I was just bullshit like trying to hold
Speaker 1: my breath as long as I could. So I get
Speaker 1: out and google how do you hold your breath longer?
Speaker 1: And it was like free diving and whim Hoff method.
Speaker 1: So I started going deep into those and I like
Speaker 1: I went from like holding my breath from a minute
Speaker 1: to like three minutes, three and a half, and I
Speaker 1: started like getting really good at holding my breath for
Speaker 1: whatever damn reason. Yeah. And then my buddy at the
Speaker 1: same time, Harvey Martin, was up in Minnesota, and he
Speaker 1: was going through the wim Hoff stuff, like he's like
Speaker 1: transitioning out of the baseball world, and it was like
Speaker 1: kind of picking him up emotionally, like like his physiology everything.
Speaker 1: He was feeling good and like it became like a
Speaker 1: tool for him to like get through what he was
Speaker 1: going through. And then he started applying it to sport
Speaker 1: up there. He was a pitching coach, so he started
Speaker 1: applying it to baseball players. But like, so at the time,
Speaker 1: I was doing the free diving and the wim Hoff stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's when Luke Richardson came into Houston, the strength
Speaker 1: coach took over for Yeah. So and so we're down
Speaker 1: there and he comes down and he assesses the team
Speaker 1: and realized and he comes to conclue that we're unfit
Speaker 1: to run. He does like the FMS scores and like
Speaker 1: the nord Board hamstring strength tests and stuff and says like,
Speaker 1: you guys aren't fit to run yet. We need to
Speaker 1: work on firing pattern, trigger pointing, glute strength, all these things.
Speaker 1: So and he gave the whole state of union, like
Speaker 1: nobody runs outside of here. If you run, I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're JJ Watt, DeAndre Hopkins. Nobody runs until
Speaker 1: I say so. And so nobody's running. And but I'm
Speaker 1: doing this breath work stuff at the time, just like
Speaker 1: staying busy. And then I kind of found this XPT
Speaker 1: pool training and stuff at the same time. And so
Speaker 1: then once we do start running a month later, we
Speaker 1: do like a warm up run one day and the
Speaker 1: next day we run conditioning and dude, I'm like, my
Speaker 1: conditioning levels still nails, Like I mean, you're not running.
Speaker 1: This is you not running? Yeah, without running, And we
Speaker 1: walk into our first conditioning day and like I'm out
Speaker 1: running all linebackers and I'm running with the DB's like
Speaker 1: I'm crushing some of the DB's and I'm like there's
Speaker 1: something like there's something here. How long were you not
Speaker 1: running again, Like explain this about a month?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so like a month no running, you're just
Speaker 4: doing breath work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're doing breath Then we're doing strength training
Speaker 1: in the gym, like we're doing hamstring eccentrics, we're doing
Speaker 1: glute activations as far as no, I'm not doing anything
Speaker 1: besides like my breath work stuff, and so I all right,
Speaker 1: there's something here. And then that's when like me and
Speaker 1: my buddy Harvey started to put together this mind Strong
Speaker 1: project to where like how can breath improve sports performance?
Speaker 1: And so like people in the world then where this
Speaker 1: dude Brian McKenzie, Lard Hamilton and his wife Gabby Gabby Reese,
Speaker 1: and like there's not a lot of people in this
Speaker 1: breath world. So like it's kind of like we're starting
Speaker 1: to figure out that this is like a missing pillar
Speaker 1: of human performance, right and so and now then eventually,
Speaker 1: like as you get into the weeds of it, it's
Speaker 1: not human performance just like being a good, clean human
Speaker 1: being in the first place. You start learning about mouth
Speaker 1: breathing and versus nasal breathing and what actual like calm
Speaker 1: breathing does to the mind. And then like how like
Speaker 1: if you are a mouth breather, how you're more like
Speaker 1: more likely to like so I know you take your mouth,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so like you're more likely for sleep apnea
Speaker 1: and stress and anxiety and all these things. And so
Speaker 1: we start asking why, and like these mentors in the
Speaker 1: the realm, we're able to answer these questions for us.
Speaker 1: And eventually we did our own research, so you got
Speaker 1: like the auction advantage, you got all these books in
Speaker 1: the art of it too, and then we started demoing
Speaker 1: all these meditation methods and stuff, and eventually it became
Speaker 1: this human performance company where we're teaching breath work to
Speaker 1: teach mental skills. So not only are we improving your
Speaker 1: performance and your VO two max and stuff with breath work. Now,
Speaker 1: like if you can control your breath and your physiology,
Speaker 1: you can actually control your psychology. And they're tied very
Speaker 1: closely together. So like kind of our stance on it
Speaker 1: is like psychologies unresolved physiology, like your heart rate and
Speaker 1: your respiratory rate tell the brain that you're safe and
Speaker 1: you can solve problems. If not, you regress and you
Speaker 1: can't solve problems. And I think that shows up in
Speaker 1: football too, like guys that are too amped up, or
Speaker 1: like young kids that can't like they know what to do,
Speaker 1: they know how to play cover three, they know how
Speaker 1: to play man to man all day, but they freak
Speaker 1: out like they're probably not breathing and they're not calm.
Speaker 1: They don't understand that, like the breath is a tool
Speaker 1: to down regulate and focus and things like that. So
Speaker 1: we've created this company around those skills and so we
Speaker 1: can improve your athletic performance and then we can like
Speaker 1: help you get control of your sports so you're a
Speaker 1: sports I college and your mental skills too. So it's
Speaker 1: been it's been a cool little little journey. We started
Speaker 1: that like back in twenty fifteen loosely, and then it
Speaker 1: like it built as we got deeper and deeper into
Speaker 1: breath work.
Speaker 2: And now you guys are getting into professional sports, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we're starting to get to the level of working
Speaker 2: with professional athletes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So we we were the first breath coach and
Speaker 1: the MLB we have a contract as the breast specialists
Speaker 1: for the San Francisco Giants, who are number one right now.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Giants, to the boys. And then
Speaker 1: where we got a bunch of NHL guys. They've they've
Speaker 1: gravitated towards it because I mean VO two max is
Speaker 1: like the standard for hockey because their wark capacity is
Speaker 1: so high. Yeah, so we have about like six seven
Speaker 1: NHL guys that work with us pretty regularly. Definitely do
Speaker 1: like the full off season program and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And then we got a few pitchers around the MLB too.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's grown and it's got some traction
Speaker 1: and people like the cool thing about is you can
Speaker 1: feel it, Like like we went through a little bit
Speaker 1: of something this morning, me and you, the hypoxic work.
Speaker 1: But like it's just like it's it's a tool.
Speaker 2: Right if I'm an athlete talking to you or just
Speaker 2: anybody anybody listening to, Like, what's a simple explanation about
Speaker 2: why people should be curious about breathing correctly? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean in breath performance and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like like you can start from the
Speaker 1: like the principles of it, like like why should you
Speaker 1: breathe them through your mouth versus your nose? And when
Speaker 1: like like if you're fighting somebody, yeah, breathing through your
Speaker 1: mouth all day, Like the primary benefit of breathing through
Speaker 1: your mouth is to get more auction in and out.
Speaker 1: But now you start talking about this how you breathe
Speaker 1: throughout the day, like that that compounds more than anything,
Speaker 1: like if your mouth breathing all day, Like, so the mouth,
Speaker 1: the mouth is digestive, the nose is respiratory. Like that's
Speaker 1: how atomic anatomically worked build That's how God built us.
Speaker 1: So if you're breeding through your nose, the air is
Speaker 1: getting cleaned, humidified, you have the ability to access nitric oxide.
Speaker 1: You breed into the belly, which is the bottom of
Speaker 1: the lung. You strengthen the diaphragm and the pelvic floor.
Speaker 1: If you're breathing, breathing properly through your nose and so like,
Speaker 1: now that's spine alignment and stability. Like there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of like fundamental benefits to just properly breathing, good breathing mechanics.
Speaker 1: And then now if you want to be an athlete
Speaker 1: and you want to be a dog, now you like
Speaker 1: address your relationship with oxygen and carbon dioxide. Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're four hundred pounds or you're one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. I put an oximiner on your
Speaker 1: finger that reads the auctionyen in your blood. It's going
Speaker 1: to be ninety five to ninety nine unless you're you
Speaker 1: have some lung disorder. So the problem is not having oxygen,
Speaker 1: it's how well you use it. So that now becomes
Speaker 1: your relationship with co too, Like the byproduct of what
Speaker 1: you burn. Like after you burn, the auction becomes combon
Speaker 1: to oxide, you achale it out and you can you
Speaker 1: can control and train that tolerance, so longer you can
Speaker 1: control higher levels of COE too. The longer you can work,
Speaker 1: and your VO two mex goes up, and now you
Speaker 1: can run longer. And like how like me and like
Speaker 1: my buddy Nate, after like that you keep the you
Speaker 1: keep the dark place away from you longer like you can.
Speaker 1: It's just like that mental giant like or that mental
Speaker 1: demon that comes on your shoulder like no, you're too
Speaker 1: tired and that kind of stuff, like you can keep
Speaker 1: that farther away. Yeah, So like that's kind of how
Speaker 1: we view it, right.
Speaker 2: Because I'm asking from a stance too, if like if
Speaker 2: if an athlete's like listening, like if you're just sitting
Speaker 2: there like just some meat hit like okay, why would
Speaker 2: I incorporate breathing into my stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's why I ask, Like a simple example that could
Speaker 2: make somebody think and be like yo, I should get
Speaker 2: curious about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going into performance, Yeah, it's just like even simpler.
Speaker 1: Look at it as MMA fighting, Like you see a
Speaker 1: guy you can tell when somebody's dead tired because their
Speaker 1: mouth breathing heavy body language shows it. Like the guys
Speaker 1: that are cool, calm and collected and bringing to their
Speaker 1: nose like they last longer. Like the goals to breathe
Speaker 1: less that the guy who breathes the least is probably
Speaker 1: gonna win. Like if you can't breathe, you can't fight.
Speaker 1: If you can't get auction to the muscle, you can't fight,
Speaker 1: Like if you can't run like your if your legs
Speaker 1: are dead, can't fight. And you can train your tolerance
Speaker 1: to that level of CO two that you build up
Speaker 1: in your legs or your arms or whatever body part
Speaker 1: you're using for your sport. So it's and it's something
Speaker 1: you can do without wearing a tear in the body.
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to go bang and run one
Speaker 1: hundred yard sprints all the time. Work in some breath work,
Speaker 1: get comfortable with higher levels of CO two with XO
Speaker 1: and things like that, and you can improve your aerublic capacity.
Speaker 1: It's been proven time and time and again. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a tool. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: For me, the book that you put me on was
Speaker 2: the oxygen advantage. If somebody was a start. Would that
Speaker 2: be the book you would put everybody on to start
Speaker 2: looking getting curious outside of obviously following at mindstream project
Speaker 2: and shouting out the minestron project.
Speaker 1: You guys actually have an app too, right, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were also with this Kodjabi app. But yeah, so you
Speaker 1: can access and buy membership for monthly like breath coaching
Speaker 1: and some mobility work and primal stuff.
Speaker 2: So if people were interested in getting involved with the
Speaker 2: Minestrong project, where would they go?
Speaker 1: They would download the Kujabi app. Yeah, so they'll just
Speaker 1: go to the website and signs you up and it
Speaker 1: gives you all the instruct go to your guys' websit
Speaker 1: dot com and they'll send it take you care, take
Speaker 1: care of you from there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but but some practical things you can do
Speaker 4: reading oxygen advantage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like that's the place to start, because it
Speaker 1: breaks down like the oxygen co two relation about it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the bore effect and then as far as like the
Speaker 1: taping your mouth at night. Like now, like if you
Speaker 1: look at it practically, like every breath helps or hurts you,
Speaker 1: so like if you breathe them through your mouth, that
Speaker 1: like the mouth breathing trigger is fighting fighting fighting flight
Speaker 1: is sympathetic nervous system. Nervous system triggers parasympathetic rest and
Speaker 1: digest So do you want to tell yourself all night
Speaker 1: while you're sleeping that you're safe or that you're fighting, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're fighting, you're not gonna get into that deep
Speaker 1: sleep consistently. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know for me when I started taping my mouth
Speaker 2: shut due to you putting me on the auction page
Speaker 2: and tell me about it.
Speaker 1: Shut out the boy, But for me, like where my whoop?
Speaker 1: Where my whoop?
Speaker 2: When I go to sleep and everything, getting my like
Speaker 2: getting all the data back, the stats back the night after,
Speaker 2: my respiratory weight rate would go way down, my.
Speaker 1: Restling hardweight rate would go way down.
Speaker 2: I like I'd be in the fifties in the minute
Speaker 2: I started taping, I started getting in the high forties,
Speaker 2: and then after a.
Speaker 1: Few weeks I'm done in like the low forties. Savage.
Speaker 2: Obviously that goes with like workout routine and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: but this is something I'm consistently doing in anyway. So
Speaker 2: just the benefits that I was quickly seeing from taping
Speaker 2: my mouth shut at night and being conscious of the
Speaker 2: way I breathe throughout the day. Like I'll sit there
Speaker 2: and driving my truck or I'm driving in the nice
Speaker 2: Chevy Silverado, and uh, I'll just notice how I'm breathing.
Speaker 2: Like if my mind scrambled and I'm thinking about busting
Speaker 2: a lot and I'm thinking about whatever my next workout
Speaker 2: routine is, or juggling ball or just any of that stuff,
Speaker 2: I'll realize that my breasts are a little shorter, I'm
Speaker 2: in my chest a little bit more. I'm actually breathing
Speaker 2: a little bit more out of my mouth when I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: My head's full of jargon, for sure.
Speaker 2: And when you sit there and slowly and you start
Speaker 2: just being conscious about breathing through your nose, breathing, breathing
Speaker 2: into your stomach, it is crazy how much how much
Speaker 2: we're mouth breathers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's but it's that first level of awareness
Speaker 1: you get, like so like like right the first time
Speaker 1: that I was at that conditioning day with the Texans,
Speaker 1: I heard people breathing for the first time, and I
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't breathing that hard. So I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm cool, Like this is like I'm about
Speaker 1: to bury the Yeah yeah, and like that's weakness, like
Speaker 1: and and fighters see the same thing. You see a
Speaker 1: guy dog tired, mouth breathing, like all right, blood in
Speaker 1: the heat off, yeah, blood in the water. He says,
Speaker 1: fucking cut his head off. Let's go off. Yeah, you said, Connor,
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: Bloss with that negativity, dude, we'll talk about I know,
Speaker 4: it's just.
Speaker 1: All the time. He just I thought Connor looked good.
Speaker 1: And obviously yeah, clearly.
Speaker 4: He was nasal breathing because he got up swinging.
Speaker 1: So you were Connor and he was poor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was poor. Yeah, okay, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4: And then and then Bloss is like a troll on
Speaker 4: the internet and just like you know.
Speaker 1: You guys all got some trolling. You got some fantastic
Speaker 1: trolling skills like that, Like your trolling skills are elite.
Speaker 1: I appreciate. Yeah, all the all the boys on the
Speaker 1: bus have.
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Speaker 1: Do it for the boys.
Speaker 2: Listening to any any of that stuff that he's talked about,
Speaker 2: does any of the boys have any questions about his
Speaker 2: journey or any of that that breathing shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well just to comment, like, as y'all started talking
Speaker 3: about it more, I started noticing myself.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about to just breathe through my nose.
Speaker 1: There you go, And then like five minutes later, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, breath Well there's more resistance there
Speaker 1: through the nose initially, but like also the nasal cavity
Speaker 1: is like if you don't use it, you lose it things,
Speaker 1: So you have to keep sending stimulus there to open
Speaker 1: up the nasal cavity. If your mouth breathing and a
Speaker 1: lot of things trigger mouth breeding. If you eat like shit,
Speaker 1: like your stomach is solving a problem, it needs more
Speaker 1: auction to solve a problem. Like oxygen is an anti bacterial,
Speaker 1: anti viral too. It's just a lot of things compound
Speaker 1: into it, and you can solve a lot of your
Speaker 1: problems with your breath.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, no, I was gonna ask about these ice
Speaker 3: bats too that we've been looking at.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gid y up. Oh bro, this is my man.
Speaker 2: Brian will walk out into the wilderness frozen, whether he's
Speaker 2: in Alaska, Montana, anywhere up north. He'll find a laker
Speaker 2: river nearby, frozen on top. He'll bring a shovel, he'll
Speaker 2: bring a pick axe, he'll chop a hole into it,
Speaker 2: and you'll go and sit in this cold ass fucking yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's finny.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the cold shit like look up cold shower benefits.
Speaker 2: That's small stuff. But this this, you do this shit,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, you're just on a completely different level
Speaker 2: with this cold therapy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, yeah, like yeah, for sure. So like
Speaker 1: we like with mindstrong, we use it as a tool,
Speaker 1: Like how can we put you in a stressful environment
Speaker 1: and show you that breath work is a tool. So
Speaker 1: like the first we'll put you in the ice, which
Speaker 1: is like what we call that, like our stadium, like
Speaker 1: a stadium with eighty thousand people with music bumping and you,
Speaker 1: responsibility and eyes on you, like attention. All those things
Speaker 1: are stressors. So that's the only stress that we can
Speaker 1: make similar to that. So we'll put you in there,
Speaker 1: and like a lot of people's first response is a
Speaker 1: short shut like that, and like that's a problem. That's
Speaker 1: not a tool, Like you're hurting yourself. So like we
Speaker 1: we'll teach you again the relationship, how to dump CO
Speaker 1: two so that the next breath, the auction gets in,
Speaker 1: calms the system gets to the cell. And so now
Speaker 1: like the breasts a tool to beat the cold, to
Speaker 1: beat the stress, and you can use that in a stadium,
Speaker 1: you can use that in the ice. You knew all
Speaker 1: the things, but like it's just yeah, like if you
Speaker 1: if you can't breathe an environment, you can't own the environment.
Speaker 1: If you can't breathe in a position you can't own
Speaker 1: the positions the same in weightlifting and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But no, like the honestly, like the reason I love
Speaker 1: the the ice so much is it's forced meditation for me. Like,
Speaker 1: like ice sucks every time. It doesn't matter how many
Speaker 1: times I've done it that nobody wants. The hardest part
Speaker 1: is like the thirty seconds before you get in that thing.
Speaker 2: You no question, I'll wake up, tell myself, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: hit a cold shower the next morning, I'll wake up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're start turning it up to that heat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're fine when you get in though, Like
Speaker 1: it's not it's not the end of the world every time, like, but.
Speaker 4: For sure, but when you get in, you're little you know,
Speaker 4: you're a little cold, you're a little naked, you're a little.
Speaker 1: Afraid, you know right when you.
Speaker 2: Know, when you turn that when you turn that knob, dude,
Speaker 2: and that cold just hit you. Yeah, it's just but yeah,
Speaker 2: once you get past, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: But like and like there's not a crazy soup and
Speaker 1: amount of benefits to the ice by itself because it's
Speaker 1: like a vaso constrictor and that kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: like you get the uh, the focus and the awakeness
Speaker 1: from the narrow up and nefferent hit and that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And it's it's also like it's like making
Speaker 1: your bed, like it's something you don't want to do,
Speaker 1: but you should do it. Start shut yourself out with
Speaker 1: some accomplishment, that kind of thing. But like, but like
Speaker 1: the three minutes and the ice, especially in nature, just
Speaker 1: like forced meditation, like I'm not anywhere else, I'm there.
Speaker 1: I'm focusing on my breath and and it's chilling. Then
Speaker 1: once you get out, like your your numb anyways, like
Speaker 1: getting your legs and the cold type your legs numb
Speaker 1: up and you don't feel anything after a minute anyways,
Speaker 1: So you'll get out from there and I'll do some
Speaker 1: breath work after.
Speaker 2: I get out of But I mean you're sitting in
Speaker 2: their neck up, yeah, neck up, Like what kind of
Speaker 2: benefit do you have from that cold water immersion?
Speaker 1: It's just more you know what I'm saying, you're kind
Speaker 1: of you're.
Speaker 2: Kind of like just going over it, saying there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of there's not tremendous benefit, but there is
Speaker 2: in cold water.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah. Yeah, So obviously one the first
Speaker 1: you control the breath. It's like it's an immune system booster,
Speaker 1: but like it's it's literally like again, like I just
Speaker 1: call it forced meditation. Like but like so now if
Speaker 1: you if you, if you want to get deeper into it,
Speaker 1: I don't know how deep you want to get to,
Speaker 1: like the cold chalk and heat chop proteins. But like
Speaker 1: I primarily use ice now as a contrast on a
Speaker 1: recovery day, gotcha, And then like I'll use it like
Speaker 1: cold chower to wake up in a cold chower, to
Speaker 1: go to bed to get my body temperature down.
Speaker 2: What kind of recovery methods do you use, like with
Speaker 2: hot cold cold? I do the sauna, So explain what?
Speaker 1: Yeah there, yeah, so like that's where you see some
Speaker 1: crazy benefits and it's like it's a great flush recovery.
Speaker 1: But so you start three minutes in the cold, you
Speaker 1: get a heavy sweat, try and get your heart right
Speaker 1: up above one twenty in the sauna, get a good
Speaker 1: sweat gone, another three minutes in the cold, you'll go
Speaker 1: neck up.
Speaker 2: In the cold, right yep, every time, and then you'll
Speaker 2: go straight from the cold, you'll get in the hot sauna.
Speaker 1: A traditional sauna are we talking in for it traditional sauna.
Speaker 1: They give a little hot.
Speaker 2: Like two ten, and then you'll try to work up
Speaker 2: get your heart rate up over one twenty. So for
Speaker 2: how long do you get in the sauna?
Speaker 1: The saunas like it depends on the temperature, Like it's
Speaker 1: two hundred, you can get you can be out in
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. If not, it bleeds on a little longer.
Speaker 1: And everybody's different too, everybody responds to the heat differently.
Speaker 1: So but so it's three rounds, so three three touches
Speaker 1: of the ice. But the last round of the ice
Speaker 1: is just uh usually just a dunk or like a
Speaker 1: dunk and hold your breath underwater under the ice tub
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Do you finish in the ice?
Speaker 1: You finish in the ice for recovery. But like the
Speaker 1: big thing there is like what people don't realize is
Speaker 1: it's it turns into a workout. Like some of our
Speaker 1: hockey guys will burn like seven to nine hundred calories
Speaker 1: sit like going because usually the cycle takes around an hour.
Speaker 1: And these guys like like again, where you burn a
Speaker 1: lot of your calories is your cardiovascular system and you
Speaker 1: have all these little muscles on like the veins and
Speaker 1: arteries that vaso constrict vasodilite heart rate gets up in
Speaker 1: the heat. Then you get back in vaso constrict and
Speaker 1: you're working these little muscles and you end up burning.
Speaker 1: Like it taxes your nervous system, but like you'll sleep
Speaker 1: like a baby after it. It's phenomenal. And then then
Speaker 1: you're also like you're killing weak cells like like the cold,
Speaker 1: like the cold shock proteins, heat chark proteins. Just start
Speaker 1: becoming like a tougher human to kill. Yeah, yeah, a
Speaker 1: tougher human to kill. I mean you get the juice flowing, right,
Speaker 1: but now there's yeah, but now there's like all these
Speaker 1: life metaphors and all this like primal step back where
Speaker 1: like we're not meant to live in ac We're not
Speaker 1: supposed to go from seventy degrees in our house to
Speaker 1: our car to work to our car and home. Like
Speaker 1: we have energy systems in our body to fight the
Speaker 1: cold and the heat, but we don't use them anymore.
Speaker 1: So like where does that energy system go? Like some
Speaker 1: people say it's like the autoimmune diseases, whatever the hell,
Speaker 1: but like that's all here's but like like it makes
Speaker 1: you more comfortable in extreme environment, So why would you
Speaker 1: not train yourself that way? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Practically just to get this recovery method out there. Three
Speaker 2: minutes in the ice neck up yep, fifteen minutes probably
Speaker 2: around fifteen minutes in the sauna, three minutes again in
Speaker 2: the ice neck up yep. Fifteen to twenty in the
Speaker 2: sauna again yep, and then you'll land what's just completely
Speaker 2: immerging yourself to a breath hole under water, Just take
Speaker 2: a dip fully in yep, and then you'll get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and dude, you'll like something like some people feel
Speaker 1: high after like you like, it's just like a really
Speaker 1: cool feeling. Dude, it's a you gotta feel it.
Speaker 2: The Ben Greenfield, his one would be uh, his one
Speaker 2: was like fifteen minutes in the in the heat, five
Speaker 2: minutes in the cold, fit in the basically three rounds
Speaker 2: and you would end on a cold shower. Yeah, so similar,
Speaker 2: the same kind of thing. Yeah, and doing it in
Speaker 2: training camp especially all like on an off day, bro,
Speaker 2: you do feel incredible.
Speaker 1: All that Like that pump you're getting in your veins
Speaker 1: and arteries and stuff, it like flushes out your soreness.
Speaker 1: I got like I tweak my back dead lifting the
Speaker 1: other day and like I'd hit my son and ice
Speaker 1: and like it starts. There's a noticeable difference between before
Speaker 1: and now. Noticeable. It's crazy, it does.
Speaker 2: It feels really good when like you know, you drop
Speaker 2: when when we'll drop our stones and actually do the
Speaker 2: cold water submersion like for real, because sometimes you're just like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I'm not just trying to get I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: completely emerge myself underwater.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Because we'll like stand in the cold tub, like Taylor,
Speaker 2: we call ourselves like account of Bill buddies back in
Speaker 2: like eighteen when we were on the Titans uh together
Speaker 2: even this year too though before you know he had
Speaker 2: his acl But you know, you go from the sauna.
Speaker 2: But in COVID this year the saunas were shut down
Speaker 2: so you couldn't activate those facilities. But when we do it,
Speaker 2: you'd sit there and be in the sauna together and
Speaker 2: then you'd be in the cold tub and you back, hey,
Speaker 2: are you gonna go under water? Yeah, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: not today man, And then you just emerge yourself down
Speaker 2: in the cold water. You get in like the steam room.
Speaker 2: But you do you feel absolutely incredible? Yeah, do we
Speaker 2: have anything else, And then you also touch on there's
Speaker 2: been a banger pod?
Speaker 1: How long we went?
Speaker 5: Uh, you're at an hour and twenty six minutes.
Speaker 4: Time flies when you're having fun, boy, I was gonna
Speaker 4: you've been rolling.
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask about so, you know, like chiropractors
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, the like I guess you can
Speaker 5: get your nose adjusted or you can open up your
Speaker 5: your airways. Have you seen that done with like the balloon?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. I haven't done it myself, so
Speaker 1: I can't like.
Speaker 4: Are you not a chiropractor guy? The way you kind
Speaker 4: of just chuckled right there.
Speaker 1: No, I'm you know chiropractice. I was just I was intrigued.
Speaker 1: I was intrigued at the next step on that that conversation.
Speaker 1: Now I've done more like the TMJ work where they
Speaker 1: like adjust like the fashon around your jaw and like
Speaker 1: inside your mouth and your tongue and stuff. That stuff
Speaker 1: I think works fantastically.
Speaker 2: But no, Taylor's alluded to doing something like that, like
Speaker 2: stuff inside of his mouth and yeah, ship to where
Speaker 2: he'll like move his hand like just do some like
Speaker 2: uh just weird kind of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like your fashion pattern starts in the mouth, so
Speaker 1: like it's a good place to start. Then I have
Speaker 1: my jaw obviously, so I constantly like just like kind
Speaker 1: of RPR through my like my fashion, my neck and stuff.
Speaker 1: So like you just find a bunch of sore spots.
Speaker 1: But dude, when they get their fingers and your like
Speaker 1: they'll put gloves on the stubble when they get your
Speaker 1: fingers and dig into your cheeks and stuff like that
Speaker 1: sounds it bites. But then like but then like you realize,
Speaker 1: like but like like like how often do you like
Speaker 1: go through like grinding your teeth and like clenching or whatever.
Speaker 1: You don't really know, but like once they open that up,
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh wow, Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I was doing my uh that RPR stuff that
Speaker 2: we've talked about, what does r PR stand for? By
Speaker 2: the way, you know you're the leader, you're right now.
Speaker 2: But when I was getting assessed in r PR, I
Speaker 2: was a jaw driver. You're like there's like a few
Speaker 2: different drivers, and I was like a jaw driver. So
Speaker 2: anything something happened, I'm like clenching at my jaw, but and.
Speaker 1: The dude would just rub The dude would be rubbing
Speaker 1: my jaw out. That sounds real. No pause, but that
Speaker 1: shit hurts. Yes, that shit fucking hurts.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Blast?
Speaker 4: Sorry blashes threw up on the on the YouTube's he
Speaker 4: threw up somebody?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about? That's adjustment you're talking about?
Speaker 1: That looks like a clean nose break.
Speaker 5: Cody Garbrant, he's a UFC fighter.
Speaker 4: Hey, where we hearing that? You get a speaker back here?
Speaker 5: What Yeah, they're hanging on your microphone. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: But Cody Garbrant, he's a UFC fighter. And uh, this
Speaker 5: is kind of how I first learned about it on
Speaker 5: uh on YouTube. He does this before any fight. He
Speaker 5: just kind of opens up his airway with that uh,
Speaker 5: with that tool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh fuck. I'm mentioned to see if he's holding
Speaker 1: his breath while he does that, Like, how do how
Speaker 1: do they keep the pressure there? Who is it? What's
Speaker 1: his name?
Speaker 5: Cody Garbrant.
Speaker 4: He reached out to him, m dude, fly like asking questions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's he's just putting like he was on
Speaker 5: the Ultimate Fire.
Speaker 1: He putting.
Speaker 5: He's putting guys through it. Yeah, it's something that he
Speaker 5: did before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but the point is, like that space in
Speaker 1: the body is malleable, like you like you can improve it.
Speaker 1: That looks terrible, man, I know, it.
Speaker 2: Just got you so conscious of breathing and like touch
Speaker 2: and touching sensitive spots on your jaw.
Speaker 1: There was a so was doctor Serrano.
Speaker 2: There was like like that that dog whistle sound, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like depending like the supersonic sound
Speaker 2: I would get in my ear every now and then
Speaker 2: it would just like come and go to where I'd
Speaker 2: be like death for a second. I'd hear like the
Speaker 2: super sounding noise kind of come through my ear to
Speaker 2: bring the sound back in my ear.
Speaker 4: And I was obviously nervous about it, like yeah, what
Speaker 4: the fuck's going on?
Speaker 2: And wondering if there's like you know, the first thing
Speaker 2: you think of as a full players like brain stuff
Speaker 2: or like CTE and ship like that reaching out to
Speaker 2: Serrano and he's talking, He's sending me videos like working
Speaker 2: my jaw out and stuff, and I mean.
Speaker 1: It didn't work. It didn't work.
Speaker 2: It did work because I was this was happening probably
Speaker 2: a few times a week, and it was kind of
Speaker 2: starting scare me a little bit. And uh, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously doctor Serrouno, he's just a mad scientist. Yeah, went away,
Speaker 2: But this shit is crazy, Like all this stuff that
Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking about. Hopefully people are still tuned
Speaker 2: in and like juiced up about it. Like me, if
Speaker 2: I'm hearing this kind of stuff on the podcast, I'm
Speaker 2: so locked in. It's got me like reading whatever. Like
Speaker 2: when I when we refer to oxygen advantage, like the
Speaker 2: shit's already bought. Like that's usually how like I work.
Speaker 2: If I hear something, I get super curious about it.
Speaker 2: I'm like ready to go all in on trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out. Because like you with the podcast, you're
Speaker 2: being called chasing edges, like you're finding these edges you're
Speaker 2: trying to like chase and just be better. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: trying to, like, yo, that'll make this seems like it'll
Speaker 2: make me a better athlete or perform better. Like I
Speaker 2: need to fucking do it because that's like the one
Speaker 2: percent I can get.
Speaker 1: Better, yeah guaranteed, And I just want to like that.
Speaker 1: Like like that got started back when I was like
Speaker 1: in the arena ball is like like I need an
Speaker 1: edge like it. So eventually I was like to keep
Speaker 1: chasing edges and I found more things to improve on,
Speaker 1: and now I just want to know, like what all
Speaker 1: these other athletes and doctors are doing just to optimize performance,
Speaker 1: because like I think, like competition like breeds this really
Speaker 1: cool curiosity to be the best. Yeah, So like guys
Speaker 1: are doing again, they're they're searching pep tides, They're doing
Speaker 1: something like they're supplements, news, types of training. You got
Speaker 1: the pool training. Now you see uh Atasanya, the the
Speaker 1: UFC fighter doing the breath work and the yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So you get guys just like pushing the edge of
Speaker 1: performance and like but then like you got some guys
Speaker 1: that just stick to these fundamentals, like they're like their
Speaker 1: mental performances, like their ability and their wit and like
Speaker 1: their work ethic keep them there. Like like I had
Speaker 1: Nate Ebner on as one of my first guests, and
Speaker 1: his mental framework is just ungodly when you say mental framework,
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean, Like just how he approaches
Speaker 1: doing his job, Like what's non negotiable, how he eliminates distraction,
Speaker 1: Like some distractions like the register in my mind, don't
Speaker 1: even register in his Like he just like he is
Speaker 1: the definition of a pro that has the ability to
Speaker 1: like sustain focus and discipline. He played for the Pages
Speaker 1: for nine years. Like there's a reason why, Like he
Speaker 1: fit into that program. He's on the Olympic team for
Speaker 1: what rugby? Yeah, for rugby and twenty sixteen for Rio.
Speaker 1: Then he just had to step out of the the
Speaker 1: Tokyo Olympics to get ready for the NFL season this time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a savage.
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Speaker 2: Back to the episode, Yeah No, I love that shit
Speaker 2: anytime performance is being talked about, like like Ben Greenfield
Speaker 2: once I found him on like Rogan talking about actually
Speaker 2: BPC one fifty seven and the red light therapy like
Speaker 2: putting it on your nuts raising testosterone levels. I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 2: who is this guy? I'm searching Ban Greenfield, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's got a podcast. I'm listening to his podcast all
Speaker 2: the time on recovery methods and anything peptide or nutrition
Speaker 2: or any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his book goes crazy places. Which which book is it? Boundless?
Speaker 4: Boundless? It is a huge fucking book, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a textbook on bio hacking and like again
Speaker 1: roots supplements, anything and everything like breath work, meditation. It
Speaker 1: goes down all the rabbit holes and he does he
Speaker 1: did a lot of like heavy lifting for everybody to
Speaker 1: have this amount.
Speaker 2: Of exactly he's done the like he's went down those
Speaker 2: dark alleys to find all this information that's accessible to everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an investigative reporter. And then so now he
Speaker 1: just put his efforts into that. So that's dope. But
Speaker 1: like that stuff is just regardless if I'm playing football
Speaker 1: or not. Like I want to optimize and I want
Speaker 1: to like live better and have enough energy to pursue
Speaker 1: crazy thing like whether it's a like a podcast or
Speaker 1: a new job or like relationships and that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: like you want you want to give your fucking best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that stuff's cool and that kind of
Speaker 1: I guess that that world of chasing edges goes down
Speaker 1: a lot of rabbits. Yeah, but it got me an
Speaker 1: opportunity in the NFL, like you might get another one, bro, yeah,
Speaker 1: God will and that like snappings a new edge.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, hey fuck it man, you get back in
Speaker 4: you you really are.
Speaker 2: You're You're an example of chasing edges and staying persistent
Speaker 2: and staying focused and staying discipline while obviously dabbling and
Speaker 2: other things that keep you happy and keep you going and.
Speaker 1: Shit like that. But it's it, really is.
Speaker 2: It's cool to see what your clim has been and
Speaker 2: the respect you've gained as far as being a captain.
Speaker 2: I know that stood out to me singing all these
Speaker 2: leagues you were in before you became that and then
Speaker 2: obviously staying steady two years out and you're still chasing,
Speaker 2: not still chasing like you need it, but it's just
Speaker 2: cool that you got it in your back, like you
Speaker 2: got that club in your bag, so you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It's dope, man, and I I really do
Speaker 2: I fuck with you, you know that. And uh, I
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on. But when's your podcast Chasing Edge
Speaker 2: is gonna drop?
Speaker 1: You think middle August?
Speaker 2: Middle of August, keep a look out for the boys
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