1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: All right, here we go spreading the corn. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 3: Ten seconds of eight as just go throw up the basket, 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 3: under the basket. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: It's the troup for the wind. 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: God make a miracle. I just stop the water. Hit 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: that one from the parking lot. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Shuck it all. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 4: At college basketball, it's. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Not the size on the dog in the fight, it's 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: the size of the fight in the dog. 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: What's up the general nation? Welcome to Big Bets on 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: Campus Podcast. This is the final four betting preview. I'm 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: stucky in joining me tonight to preview both games on 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: my colleagues, BJ Cunningham, Mike Calperze. Gentlemen, how goes it? 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: I'll start Mike with you are. 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: Your excitement level? Is the hype too much for Duke 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Carolina already? I feel like this Will Smith stuff is 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: kind of helped out with that. Where do you stand? 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I think the hype is appropriate given the likelihood of 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: a fun, up and down game, lots of emotion, passion. 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we try to force through rivalry games 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: in years where teams just aren't quite on the same level, 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: or just the overall quality of plays not there. But 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: you can't really ask for much more than the way 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: these two teams are playing. Duke is finally putting together. 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: They truly look like that complete offense that's not overly 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: reliant on one player, specifically Paulo Vanco and North Carolina 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: has just taken it to a brand new level, and 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: you can see the kind of passion in which they're 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: playing for their coach, so it doesn't seem contrived. I 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: think you get that in year one, year two with 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: a new coach, so you know, stripping aside the rivalry 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of the pomp and circumstance of everything 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: related to coach k I think it's going to be 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: a great matchup on the court, which I'm really excited about. Honestly. 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: The only thing that's a little bit of a downer 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: is that Villanova isn't coming in at full strength, because 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: if they were, I think that would be another coin 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: flip game. But that's not certainly not going to rain 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: on the parade in New Orleans. I think it's going 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: to be a very good set of semis and hopefully 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: a great game on Monday Night. 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I agree, it's the first time these two tas already 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: played the tournament like come on, it's okay to get excited. 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: We don't know if Saint Peter's the run was cool, 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: but it's time you go huge names here, bj Are 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: you over the hype already? Are you getting more excited? 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 5: I'm getting more and more excited by the day. 50 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: I'd say. 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 6: When it first happened, I was kind of I don't 52 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 6: know why, it was just kind of over. It just 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 6: comes so sick of this coach k retirement tour, which 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 6: he doesn't want him to be about him. Eight months 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 6: into it he told everybody, I don't want it to 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 6: be about me. I want to be about the kids. 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 6: Eight months too late on that. 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: But I think once Friday and Saturday rolls around, then. 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: The juice will start get flowing. I'll start getting pumped up. 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 6: I hear jim Nance's voice, then we'll know we're here 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 6: and it's going to be a really intense forty minutes 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 6: of basketball. 63 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun to flip this 64 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: around real quick. To you guys, any predictions on Jim 65 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: Nantz's call should Duke win it, you know he's basically 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: in the lab right now trying to work up a 67 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: pithy one liner when the confetti's coming down on Coach K. 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: What do you think he goes with. 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 6: My prediction is he's going to give his tie to 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 6: Coach K because he always get it out of tie 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 6: to the you know, the best player or whatever senior 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 6: through the tournament. I think he's going to give it 73 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 6: to Coach K if they won it all. That's my prediction. 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: I think he'll make some kind of military reference to 75 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Coach K starting at army and winning his final battle. 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: He'll try to make something poetic out of that. That 77 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: would beat my prediction. Usually he likes to get into 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: the word play of the team, if it's a dog 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: and cat fight something like that. But I think I'll 80 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: go back to the original roots for Coach K. 81 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: What do you think, Stucky, Yeah, I think I'll say 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: something like the tour continues, there's but no matter what, 83 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: there's one left, there's one game remaining, something alluding to 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: the fact that, no matter what, it will be Coach 85 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: K's final game for the national title. That's a fun game. 86 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's trying to cook up something very memorable. 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's get right into these games. And 88 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: by the way, this final four Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Villanova. 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: I have in my bracket zero of these teams in 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: my final four, so I don't know how many how 91 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: many of you guys, how many of the final four 92 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: do you guys have in your bright you have two? 93 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I got to Kansas. I was riding the whole way, 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: but Nova just had a good feeling about coming through 95 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: the end of Biggie's play. I was there when they 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: beat Providence on their home floor, their last regular season game. 97 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: I just kind of felt the good vibes there. The 98 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: rest of my bracket was a disaster, so I'm certainly 99 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: not trying to too my own horn. But I got 100 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: two of the four stucky. 101 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 6: Not only did I not get any final fours, right, 102 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 6: I did not get a single Elite eight team, right. 103 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 6: So I am in dead last in every single pool 104 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: that I have joined. So this is truly, I think, 105 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 6: the worst bracket I've ever had. 106 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you, brother. All right, let's 107 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: let's break down these games, which is the most important thing. 108 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: No matter where your bracket is. We still have bets 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: to make and place. We'll get to some player props 110 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: stuff as well throughout, but let's start chronologically, of course, 111 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: we'll start Villanova Kansas. Villanova the two seed, Kansas the 112 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: one seed Kansas a four and a half point favor 113 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: here Over under one thirty three. Interestingly enough, this this 114 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: game is played well. We played at a football stadium 115 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: in New Orleans super Dome. Maybe the site lines aren't great. 116 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: By the way, there's rumors that, like the balls were 117 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: over inflated last weekend. I don't know if that's gonna 118 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: be the case again, But like shooting was way down, 119 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: Unders were just cat No one could make a three, 120 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: there was just everything was long. You might hear that 121 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: Unders went three and oh here the last time the 122 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Final Four was in New Orleans, which is true, they 123 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: went three and ow and they went under by an 124 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: average of nine points per game. But if you go 125 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: back to two thousand and three, Overs went three and 126 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: l that weekend, the previous time that the Final Four 127 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: was held here, and Overs cashed by an average of 128 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: nine points per game. So throw all that out. It's 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: all about breaking down the games. The major storyline here 130 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: is there's no oh by the way of those two 131 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: Final four three twelve. Just a fun fact, Kansas finished 132 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: runner up in both of those tournaments. The last three 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: times that these two teams have also faced off for 134 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: the tournament, which has been self versus right, the winner 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: has gone on to win the national title. Something has 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: to give with those two things. But this is a 137 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: rematch of the twenty eighteen Final four, which Kansas barely 138 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: pulled out against Villanova. Major storyline here, No, Justin Moore 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: really unfortunate injury. He will not be available for the 140 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: remainder of the tournament. We don't know. This is obviously 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: not a deep team. He's very important on both ends. 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: So okay, how much does that matter for one game? 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: That's obviously a big part of this handicap. Kansas has 144 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: looked impressive, but the road hasn't been that tough. But 145 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: they came out of the Big Twelve, which we know 146 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: is one of the best conferences in the country. So 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: a lot of different angles where you can go with 148 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: this one. Let's bja, I'll start with you for the 149 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: next game. Let's uh, you know, we got our guy 150 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: in Philly. We'll start with him with Villanova and Jay Wright, 151 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: who's going for his third national title since twenty sixteen. 152 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: Do you liken over here? Do you think this is 153 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: Kansas game, especially without. 154 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: More Well, before I get into the pick there, I'd 155 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: just like to piggyback on your thoughts on shooting in domes. 156 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: It's always overrated. I think a lot of casual sports 157 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: fans come in that. I get. It's you know, this 158 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: wide open air the dome. It's you know, the sitelines 159 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: are going to be weird. There's been six games played 160 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: in the Final four in the Semis at the Superdome. 161 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: You know it's a Superdome now it's the Mercedes Caesar, 162 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Going back to ninety three, 163 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: if you put the six games together, the teams have 164 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: shot forty percent from three. So this is just it's 165 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: not in my mind an automatic over because I think 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the threes are gonna fall, But I just put it 167 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: three and three that averages the off points so exactly. 168 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: So it's like it is a non factor in my 169 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: mind in in terms of shooting inside the dome. When 170 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: it comes to Nova, though, you know, you hit it 171 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: right on the head. Justin Moore not only was their 172 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: leader in minutes, their second leader in scorer scoring. But 173 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: I think even more important is when you look at 174 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: this Nova team, their signature weakness is really defensive rebounding, 175 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: and he's one of the best rebounding wings in all 176 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: of college basketball. I think when you take him off 177 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: the floor, Jay Wright's going to do a nice job 178 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: piece mealing together is offensive production in terms of shooting 179 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: in terms of points, but I just don't see how 180 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: they're going to hide that against the Kansas team that 181 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: can really get after you on the glass. Just some 182 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: of the numbers, you know, with more when you look 183 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: at the head to head, you know, I just don't 184 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: really necessarily see how they go from one hundred and 185 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: sixty fifth in defensive rebounding and of plug that hole 186 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: and then Kansas thirty two percent of offensive rebunding opportunities 187 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: puts them twenty six nationally. I just think that regardless 188 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: of how Kansas is shooting early on, they're going to 189 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: get second chance point, you know, opportunities. And really some 190 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: of the biggest strengths for NOVA this year, namely their 191 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: foul shooting, is how they can close games out, and 192 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: they have that veteran presence with Gillespie and they're able 193 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: to kind of just suck the life out of teams 194 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: down the stretch by not turning the ball over, not 195 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: making mistakes. I think you're going to see more usage 196 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: in terms of players handling the ball outside of Gillspie 197 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: that aren't used to it. So I just don't think 198 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: we're going to get a vintage Villanova performance here. I'm 199 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: a little bit surprised at the number, but I'm not 200 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: interested in laying the three and a half or four 201 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: whatever ends up closing at. I'll just take advantage of 202 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: the money line number and go ahead and play the Jayhawks. 203 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: I think this is their game to lose, and despite 204 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: an easy road, I do think they've been playing better 205 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: basketball for the better part of, you know, the last month. 206 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go ahead and take the Jayhawks. 207 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a couple of things that could You know, 208 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: from a numerical standpoint, I have more worth about two 209 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: points to the spread in this particular game. Now it's 210 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: he could be worth more, you could more and more 211 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: U pun intended, but you the sample size with them 212 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: without him isn't great because vill doesn't have a lot 213 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: of depth, so they a lot of their guys play 214 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: most of the game, but their their possession projections in 215 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 2: their games. So because they played really slow, this is 216 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: a pace clash. Kannas wants to play fast and only 217 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: wants to play so it's not as high as like 218 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: Duke North Carolina, so your impact is not as big. 219 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: So if like More was missing and then you know, 220 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: this total was one sixty, it would be different. But 221 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: I am more about two points, So I make Kansas 222 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: less than a three point favorite here. So I leaned Villanova. 223 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: I want five. One thing that I I think that 224 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: without without more, Villanova obviously they can, but I just 225 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: don't think that they can win a national title. But 226 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: I do think that they could get there and without more, 227 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: and two things potentially could work in their favor here. 228 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: It's that, all right, everyone else steps up without in factor. 229 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: You see it all the time in sports, all right, 230 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: we know we're missing, or everyone else just plays out 231 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: of their mind. There's kind of just raises their level. 232 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: And then two there's just some uncertainty, right, So like 233 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: what is Villanova gonna do? Like is Jay Wright can 234 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: come up, Well, it's a whole week to prepare here. 235 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: He can come up with some new sets, some new 236 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: looks that Kansas might not be prepared for early. So 237 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think that they can the sting 238 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: of losing more might be a little less painful for 239 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: the first initial game without him. Villanova also does do 240 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: a really good job of slow in the game out, 241 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 2: which can help keep Kansas out of a transition where they're 242 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: absolutely deadly. But before I go to BJ, I can 243 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: you buy that at all, Like just maybe some uncertainty 244 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: with what Right's gonna do and everyone else kind of 245 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: steps up a angle. You see that in other sports. 246 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes it kind of plays into my favorite player prop 247 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: for this one. Brandon Slater is a kid who was 248 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: playing great in late January and all through the month 249 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: of February. He actually, before the NCAA started, had scored 250 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: in double digits eleven points game in his last twelve. 251 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: Then he gets to this tournament. He's scored five points 252 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: for this entire tournament. They haven't needed him. He hasn't 253 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: shot the basketball. If his number is below eleven for 254 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: the points projection for the player prop, I'm all on 255 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: the over because he's the one that I see them targeting. 256 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: You know, shoot the ball more. We're going to need 257 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: you to take seven, eight to nine shots in this game, 258 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: as opposed to what he's done in some of the games. 259 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Which is really just play defense, rebounds, and be a 260 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: solid role player. I think, at least for your argument, 261 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: if the number did bubble up to five and you 262 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: could catch two and a half in the first half 263 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: with Nova, I agree that as the game shrinks down, 264 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the advantage goes to Jay Wright, who's really proven to 265 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: be a seasoned operator, being able to dial up plays 266 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: and get players in the exact position to succeed on 267 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: the offensive ends. But I think over the course of 268 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: a forty minute game, no matter how hard they try 269 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: to slow things down, I think Kansas will end up 270 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: scoring some buckets in transition and that kind of feeds 271 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: their energy. So I still like Kansas. I understand where 272 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: you're coming from, and it does you boil down to 273 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: a value proposition. So we'll see how far the pendulum 274 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: swings in the other direction before this game tips. 275 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: EJ thoughts, Yeah. 276 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 6: I tend to lead towards with Yu Stucky towards Villanova. 277 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 6: Obviously I do one to five. There's a couple of 278 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 6: things that you know work in Kansas's favor. The thing, obviously, 279 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 6: what Villanova loves to do. They love to shoot a 280 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 6: ton of threes, and they love to do a ton 281 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 6: of pick and roll. Well, Kansas is top fifty in 282 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 6: the country defending both those, So, like you said, Stucky 283 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 6: Jay Wright's gonna have to figure out some new type 284 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 6: of schemes or sets to actually beat Kansas. 285 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: Villanova has to slow the pace. 286 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 6: Down and make this a sixty possession type game if 287 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 6: they're going to have any chance of winning. Because Kansas, 288 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 6: even though they're very good in transition, they're one hundred 289 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 6: and fifty second in points for possession and half court 290 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 6: offense per shot quality. And also Villanova does an outstanding 291 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: job but preventing you of getting to the rim, and 292 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 6: Kansas is top thirty in terms of the frequency they 293 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 6: attack the rim. So even though Villanova doesn't have the 294 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 6: height or the size to deal with McCormick or lightfoot, 295 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 6: they're still top twenty five in terms of preventing teams 296 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 6: at the rim and field goal percentage allowed at the rim. So, 297 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 6: and you saw against Houston that forced Houston to take 298 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 6: a lot of shots from outside. 299 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: The arc, which they didn't go one of twenty. 300 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 6: I don't expect Kansas to go one to twenty from 301 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 6: behind the arcause they're a better three point shooting team. 302 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 6: But it's still the type of game plan that Villanova 303 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 6: can do and keep Kansas away from the one thing 304 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 6: that they want to do. So I lean towards Ustucky. 305 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 6: I do like Villanova in this matchup. I would love 306 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 6: a five, and I do think that if they can 307 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 6: slow his pace down, I think they have a good 308 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 6: shot at getting to the championship game. 309 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're we just saw the Miami games. Maybe 310 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: we have some recency boss Kansas blowing out vind Me 311 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: in the second half. But for a lot of the 312 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: year we've talked with this, Kansas will win games, but 313 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: they have trouble at times extending and building margin, and 314 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: that could come back to haunt them here and it 315 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: could end up staying a tight, close game, or you know, 316 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: Billdova could get down like seven to eight and then 317 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: they make a run it gets down to two to three, 318 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: and so that's that's something to keep in mind as well. 319 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: From a player prop perspective. You mentioned Brandon Slatter. I 320 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: think that's a really intriguing one. I'm going to dig 321 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: into that one, Mike. I like Eric Dixon over eight 322 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: and a half points, that you can get that a 323 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: plus money right now, he has gone over that number 324 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: twenty of thirty seven times this year, so over half 325 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: the time. And I think he's gonna get more minutes. 326 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: And if you look at Kansas's defense where there's potential holes, 327 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: you know, Nova run's pick and roll tough. Nationally, Kansas 328 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: elite at defending the ball handler, but they struggle a 329 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: bit against a role man, specifically McCormick. And I think 330 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: that Dixon is gonna have a They're gonna look for 331 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: him in pick and roll out were and then in 332 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: the post. Kansas actually is not that strong of a 333 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: post defense despite its size. So I think Jay Wright 334 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: what he's gonna have to do here is all right, 335 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: I gotta get my bigs more involved. I gotta get 336 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: these other guys when were above, I think Dixon's gonna 337 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: get more looks. And for what it's worth, in the 338 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: one game where Justin Moore didn't play against Yuka and 339 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: Nova won by eleven, they were by twenty five and 340 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: ten to go, Dixon had twenty four to twelve and six, 341 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: so he was kind of the one of the biggest 342 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: benefactors in a bump in production. So I'm going to 343 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: look at Dixon over BJ any player prop targets for 344 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: this specific game. 345 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm very interested in Colin Gillespie under three and 346 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 6: a half assists, which is at plus one twenty five 347 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 6: right now, So a couple of things I think that 348 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 6: are kind of working against him. He I think with 349 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 6: obviously with the loss of more more the scoring load 350 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 6: is going to be put on his shoulders. And second off, 351 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 6: like you already mentioned, Kansas is very good in defending 352 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 6: pick and roll and also three point shooting, especially catching 353 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: shoot three point shooting. So those are the main two 354 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 6: areas where Villanova and Colin Gillespie are going to get 355 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 6: most of assists. So far, as terming, he has one 356 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 6: assist against Houston, two against Michigan. He did have four 357 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: against Ohio State and Delaware, but during the regular season 358 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 6: he only had over three and a half assists in 359 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 6: essentially seventeen It was thirty three games, so essentially half 360 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 6: and the game against Connecticut that you mentioned without Justin 361 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 6: Moore Hilly had one assist. So I think, especially getting 362 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 6: a number at plus one twenty five, I think you're 363 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 6: going to some decent value on under three and a 364 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 6: half assists given the fact that more of the scoring 365 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 6: load is gonna be put on him in that Kansas 366 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: is pretty good at defending the two things that he's 367 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: gonna he's gonna need to be able to get most 368 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 6: of his assists. 369 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: His quick notes on both of those sucky. I love 370 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: yours because with a low number, he looked for a 371 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: big can you shoot foul shots and just like everyone 372 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: in Nova's roster, he's over eighty percent, so you're looking 373 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: at some freebies if he gets sent to the line 374 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: and not a heartbreak, you know where he goes three 375 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: for seven or something like that from the line, and 376 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: then I agree with you BJ because of their pace. 377 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: They like to get into the half court and then 378 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: start dishing the ball around. They run him off of screens. 379 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: They like to get to Gillespie in certain catch and 380 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: shoot three point spots. So he's not that traditional like 381 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: break the press himself and then all of a sudden, 382 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: any three on two opportunity, he's going into it, you know, 383 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: pushing the ball and getting some of those those easy 384 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: freeb assists. So the fact that it's plus money, I'm 385 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and sprinkle on that. 386 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: I really like that angle. One thing to watch here 387 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: for Villanova, and it really bit Miami because Villanova in 388 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: might like Miami. It was just an awful matchup for Miami. 389 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: It just can't rebound. They can't really defend at the rim. 390 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: But Miami also doesn't have depth, and Villanova they can rebound, 391 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: not they're not really strong on the defensive end in 392 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: that area, but they're not as bad as Miami. They're 393 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: pretty good at defending the room. But like Miami, they 394 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: do have a lot of depth. So something to keep 395 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: in mind is watch the potential foul trouble. Like Villanova 396 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: could not afford to get in foul trouble in this 397 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: game because it's a very thin rotation that's going to 398 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: be even thinner without more So keep that in mind. 399 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: If you're looking at any live betting angles, do you 400 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: want to add anything else to player props? 401 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: I think we're going that you know pretty well on 402 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: the nova side. If there was anything that necessarily popped 403 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: out to me on the canvas side, I should say 404 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: I do think that the current prices for rebounding are 405 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: pretty well calibrated. Given that, I think they're going to 406 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: have a significant advantage, and also there's just some volatility. 407 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: As we've discussed countless times on this podcast between Jalen 408 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: Wilson and McCormick, Like, I don't know which one's going 409 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: to show up and have a dominant performance it gets 410 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: to the double double, so I'd rather just keep my 411 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: money on the side lines as it relates to Kansas 412 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: player crops. 413 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the second game of 414 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: the night, the Nightcap the hype Act Carolina Duke Duke Carolina. 415 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: However you want to start it their first ever meeting 416 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: in the NCAA Tournament, you wunc the eight seed Duke. 417 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: The two seed Duke is a four four and a 418 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: half point favorite here over under one fifty one. This 419 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: will actually be the first time since tournament expansion in 420 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five that two teams will meet in the 421 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: final four that split their only two meetings during the season. 422 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: It's never happened since nineteen eighty five. We've had a 423 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: couple other conference meetings at conference classes between two conference 424 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: foes in the final four. Specifically since two thousand. We 425 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: had Michigan State Wisconsin two thousand, but Michigan State won 426 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: all four meetings that year. We had Maryland and Duke 427 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, when Maryland was in the 428 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: ACC Duke won three of four that year Carolina and 429 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: seric Use was the most recent one in twenty sixteen, 430 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: in Carolina won three out of four that year. These 431 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: two teams have only met twice. They each won in 432 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: knitting fashion on each other's home court by double digits. 433 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: And then they put up a lot of points. I 434 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: think the total points scored for one hundred and fifty 435 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: four and one hundred and seventy four and the winning 436 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: team scored the eighty four and ninety four points in 437 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: both games, So lots of offense. The first thing that 438 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: jumps out here is if you're familiar with lines, you 439 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: might say, wow, well, Duke was just an eleven and 440 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: a half point favorite at home in Cameron into or 441 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: earlier this month against Carolina. Now they're only nine four, 442 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: Like you know, you remove three and a half four points, 443 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: but you got to remember that game with all the 444 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: hype and coach K's last home game on a public support, 445 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: narrative support and by the way, North Carolina gets a 446 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 2: big bump for winning that game by thirteen points. And 447 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: since the first of the month, there's algaly been no 448 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: one better in all of college basketball and They've probably 449 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: had the best resume in the actual tournament, the resume 450 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: of wins, So they just skyrocketed up ratings not great 451 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: at Duke is playing well, but they were already rated 452 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: really high. So I think that the light is actually 453 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: it's not like a huge mistake as some might think. 454 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: I think this will come down to which offense can 455 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: execute better. So I do think that both offenses have 456 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: major edges here. BJ. I'm gonna start with you, Duke Carolina. 457 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 6: I am really leaning towards the over here, and maybe potentially, 458 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 6: I mean, I'll probably end up playing the over pre game, 459 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 6: but this is a this is a really fun live 460 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: trading game back and forth because the pace of this game, 461 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: I believe is going to be very very fast. The 462 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 6: first meeting there were sixty nine possessions, and the second 463 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 6: one seventy five possessions. That's second meeting at seventy five possessions. 464 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 6: That's the fastest pace that Duke has played at all 465 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 6: throughout the AC regular season, AC Conference Tournament and NCAA tournaments. 466 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 6: Why that pace was so fast and why it was 467 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: more significant than the first meeting is because Duke absolutely 468 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 6: torched North Carolina entranansition one point one to five points 469 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 6: for possession in the first meeting and one point twenty 470 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 6: four in. 471 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: The second meeting. 472 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 6: So even though Duke plays at a slower pace in 473 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 6: North Carolina with kind of top forty in terms of 474 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 6: adjustin tempo, I think coach k and Duke knows that 475 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 6: they can absolutely towards this team in transition. So I 476 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 6: don't think you're going to see Duke sit in the 477 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 6: half court do a lot of their isolation and cutting sets. 478 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 6: I think they're going to want to get up the 479 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 6: floor and try to get to the rim because if 480 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 6: they actually try to play in the half court, if 481 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 6: they miss a shot, they're probably not getting an offensive 482 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 6: rebound because North Kline's the second best defensive rebounding team 483 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 6: in the country. So if you go back to those meetings, though, 484 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 6: what's interesting is that, especially the second one, is that 485 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 6: if you look at the box score and neither team 486 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: really shot completely lights out only both teams around fifty 487 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 6: four percent from two point range, and they are only 488 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: sixteen three is made in the game. The difference was 489 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 6: North Carolina got to the free throw line twenty two times. 490 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 6: So with the pace being that fast and even though 491 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 6: we're playing in a football stadium, I think it gives 492 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 6: you a lot of breathing room to hit this over. 493 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 6: I mean, both teams are outside the top two hundred 494 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 6: in terms of point possession allowed in transition, so I 495 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 6: think this is going to be an up and down, fast, 496 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 6: free flowing, fun type of game that we're gonna have 497 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: a ton of points at both ends. 498 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 4: So I love over one hundred and fifty one points. 499 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 6: I think, as far as the spread is concerned, kind 500 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 6: of lead towards North Carolina. But honestly, like I said, 501 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 6: I think this is just a fun, live trading game. 502 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 6: So if you can get basically either team at a 503 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 6: significantly better number than they are pre game, I think 504 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 6: you just go ahead and hit it live because I 505 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 6: think this one is probably gonna come down to the 506 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 6: last few seconds. Hopefully it would be a great great storyline. 507 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 6: We haven't had a buzzer beater all tournament long, and 508 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 6: we finally get one in Duke North Carolina. It's either 509 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 6: send coach k to the title or to end this 510 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 6: retirement to it. It's gonna be It's gonna be a 511 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 6: lot of fun. 512 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I'm not smart predictions that this is going 513 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: to come down to the final minute. And maybe that's 514 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: just wishful thinking because we determined has lacked some drama 515 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: and key moments. But I really do believe that. I 516 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: think that the this is gonna be I agree there's 517 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: not a lot of margin for air in a Final 518 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: four game going over one fifty one. Unfortunately, like if 519 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: it's really close and then both teams just grind it 520 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: to a halt and start playing tight at the end 521 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: for like the final seven eight minutes, when they're just 522 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: value or possession, you know, the over could be doomed. 523 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: But I do think both teams are gonna play up 524 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: and down. They both excel in transition. It's where all 525 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: of their talent and athletic ability shines. And both defenses 526 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: are bad in transition. I think Carolina is a twenty 527 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: eight percent tole percentergy and Duke I think is in 528 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: the thirty second, So those are attackable areas. Then I 529 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: think in the half court both teams also have edges 530 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: on when they're on offense. Keep in mind this Duke 531 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: defense we talked about coming into the tournament. Wow, there's 532 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: age issues with this two defense. I don't think that's 533 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: really changed, right. Their offense has been on fire. They 534 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: scored seventy eight at least seven eight and all four 535 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: the tournament wins, but they haven't really faced an elite offense. 536 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: Michigan State, Texas Tech, Arkansas Fullerton three point yeah or 537 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: go three, But none of tho teams are right. It's 538 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: at the top thirty in austin offensive efficiency on kempom. 539 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, they all scored a lot like 540 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: Texas Tech was scoring a lot. Michigan State got there 541 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: what seventy six? Arkansas couldn't buy three, But it's not 542 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: like the Duke's defense shut them down. Now they're going 543 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: to face an actual elite offense and it's their biggest test, 544 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: and they have issues off the ball communication. So I 545 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: think Caroline I could score here. Carolina's defense has been 546 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: playing well, but this is a different animal. With this 547 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: Duke offense are gonna be the most talented in the country. 548 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: So I think Duke's gonna score at Will too. The 549 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: one interesting point here, maybe this will uh well, I'll 550 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: bring up two points before I throw this to Mike 551 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: to get his thoughts. One does the pressure get the 552 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: Duke we talked about all right? It's all about coach 553 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: k and like down the stretch, maybe it was a distraction. 554 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: They seem to put that behind him in the tournament, 555 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: but there's like a week of Final four press and 556 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's a little too narratively. And 557 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: the other thing is one of the things that Carolina 558 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: did different in the second game is the first game 559 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: aj Griffin went not to he had twenty seven points. 560 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: In that game, they had Leaky Black, one of the 561 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: best defensive players in the country, guarding Ben Caro, and 562 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: they had Mannik on Griffin. Well, the second game they 563 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: switched that up and actually put Black on Griffin, and 564 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: Griffin went from twenty seven points to five and the 565 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: Ben Caro obviously as a plus matchup now against Mannik, 566 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: he went from thirteen points to twenty three. In the 567 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: second meeting, Mannick was pretty consistent throughout. He had twenty 568 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: and twenty one. He went eleven of twenty from three 569 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: in both meetings. I'm assuming he's gonna get some more 570 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: open books from three, getting some open looks off the ball, 571 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: where Duke can have some trouble getting lost in the sauce, 572 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: so to speak. Lots of different angles to take care, Mike, 573 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: give me your thoughts. 574 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: So, just as an exercise, particularly for big games, whether 575 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: it's the Super Bowl, the Final four, College fool and 576 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: national title, as soon as the matchup set, before the 577 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: numbers come out, I like to just write down, you know, 578 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: on a cocktail map in my own projections for the total, 579 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: the spread, you know, the money line, And very quickly 580 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I was talking myself into under. I said, you know, 581 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: neither of these teams turned the opponent over very much. 582 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, the defensive rebounding is on lockdown when Duke shoots, 583 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: so there's not going to be a lot of easy 584 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: second chance buckets. And then the total came out and 585 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: I had ridden down one hundred and fifty eight and 586 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: it comes out at one fifty one. So now I'm 587 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: on the opposite side of that. A lot of the 588 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: things that you brought up in terms of playing a 589 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: little tight, I think you could also see that in 590 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: a game. 591 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: That's yeah, by the way, there were one fifty four, 592 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: I think in one fifty five during the regular season, 593 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: so obviously you were closer to those totals than what 594 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: this has opened up up ahead. 595 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: And I figure just the brand of basketball that Duke's 596 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: been playing, which I totally agree. They've been more than 597 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: happy to speed up their opponents, and even if that means, 598 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, some efficiency losses on their defensive end, They're like, 599 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: it's fine, we'll just outscore everybody. So all of that 600 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: was leading me, you know, at the end of this 601 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: once the number came in and coales kind of in 602 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: that low one to fifty range to the over here. 603 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: I will say, in terms of I'm betting the whole thing, 604 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: I was kind of viewing this more as a coin flip. 605 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: I had a Duke minus two and a half, so 606 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I think the value is on North Carolina money line. 607 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: So what I'm going to do to protect myself. I 608 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: do not believe that North Carolina all their advantages and 609 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: everything goes out the window at Baycott gets in foul 610 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: trouble does have a good game, So what was I 611 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: going to put the majority of my money on North 612 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: Carolina money line and then I'm going to bet under 613 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: on points and under on rebounds on Baycott just as 614 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: kind of an insurance policy. If he has to go 615 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: to the bench with two or three fouls in the 616 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: first half and the game kind of gets away from them, 617 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: So that's how I'm betting it, not in that I 618 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: purely love the tar Heels. I think just the values there. 619 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: I think that this spread is off a little bit, 620 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's even given the point spread 621 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you know the history on this, going 622 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: from eleven eleven and a half at at Cameron in 623 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: Door all the way down to four here. I still 624 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: don't think it's reflective of just how well North Carolina 625 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: is played. I don't care about the number eight next 626 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: to their name. I think really this is more of 627 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: a coin flip, maybe duke by a possession, So I'll 628 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: go ahead and take the Tar Hills, And that's just 629 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: my strategy. What do you think about, you know, getting 630 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: into the minutia and trying to hedge a little bit 631 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: with player props or is that purely something that you 632 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: separate out from your regular plays. 633 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: I don't bet player props enough. I mean, I have 634 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: to have a real opinion there. It seems I can 635 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: get a little messy, but that that makes sense. I mean, 636 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: Bacon has to go on the floor for them to 637 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: have a chance, and he has to be controlling the glass. 638 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: So I don't hate it. On the surface, but I 639 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: pretty much only bet player props like five times a 640 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: year in like huge games. We'll get into some player props. 641 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: Now they got under twelve and a half rebounds of 642 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: plus money. I do like he's gone under that number 643 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: twenty out of thirty seven times, so over half the 644 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: time this year. Now he's gone way over to the 645 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: tournament every game, but he's had just massive matchup advances 646 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: inside a little different against Mark Williams. In the two 647 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: regular season meetings against Duke, he had five and seven 648 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: to twelve total in the two games and he played 649 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: I think thirty and thirty five minutes. So I like 650 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: Baycot under twelve and a half rebound. Also, don't hate 651 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: Williams under rebounds too. I think that those two are 652 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: going to battle, but you'll see other brothers get in 653 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: to the mix as well, and you know they The 654 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: interesting thing is, okay black on if I assume that 655 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: Callen will do the same thing, because you know it 656 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: was really their offensive won the game, but it worked, 657 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: so why not keep black on Griffin? And you know 658 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: then ben Caro's gonna have a plus matchup against Mannick. 659 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: He's around seventeen points, seventeen and a half. I think 660 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: that's close to right. But I think Black would lockdown Griffin, 661 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: so I would lean under there. But I think baycot 662 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: under is probably my favorite play BJ And he thought 663 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: some player props and actually under rebounds, I should say, 664 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: And he thought some player props for Duke Carolina. 665 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the Baykow one is very very interesting. How 666 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: she was going to ask you guys what you thought 667 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: of that, because you know I was looking through it. 668 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 6: And Mike Kithaniel on the heads is he has to 669 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 6: stay out of foul trouble if he wants anything. 670 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: It's another fact so he could get in voucher all 671 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: this exactly. 672 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 6: I mean I went through and basically his game logs 673 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 6: and any time he plays over thirty minutes, sixteen out 674 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 6: of eighteen times he's gone over twelve and a half rebounds. 675 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: So essentially, what what are the two exceptions though? Against Duke? 676 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: Against Duke exactly. So that's why it's very funny. 677 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 6: It's just like, Okay, he didn't do it against Duke 678 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: and all the other times essentially he either got in 679 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 6: foul trouble they were playing, you know, a non conference, 680 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 6: smaller school where he didn't play a lot for example, 681 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 6: the first game against Marquette only played twenty eight minutes 682 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 6: and didn't hit over twelve and a half rebounds. So 683 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 6: I agree with you that it's definitely leaning towards on 684 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 6: especially with that plus money. I think that's good. I'm 685 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 6: actually you mentioned it earlier, Stuck. I like Brady Mannick 686 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 6: over two and a half three pointers made and even 687 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 6: money right now, he's I mean, he's just shooting lights out. 688 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 6: He's made over three, He's made at least three to 689 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 6: three pointers in seven of his last eight games, he's 690 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 6: attempted at least six threes, and every single NCAA tournament 691 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 6: game where he's shooting forty seven percent from behind the arc. 692 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: You already mentioned it. 693 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 6: Six of ten from behind the arc from Duke in 694 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 6: the first meeting five ten and the second meeting. Duke 695 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 6: is also two hundred and thirty seventh in open three 696 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 6: point rate allowed, So if the pace is fast, we're 697 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 6: getting a lot, a large number of possessions in transition. 698 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 6: North Coin is the type of team where if they 699 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 6: have an open three in transition, they're going to take it. 700 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 6: So and Manic is mainly one of those guys that 701 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 6: does that. If it's not capable love, so that is 702 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 6: my Especially at even money, I definitely like that, but 703 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 6: I agree with you guys as well. Baykot hundred twelve 704 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 6: and a half rebounds is at plus money is good 705 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 6: value as well. 706 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: Manic eleven of twenty from three combined in the two 707 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: meetings against Duke this year. Mike, what are you seeing 708 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: from a player prop perspective? 709 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, really, I just narrowed in on Baykok, But just 710 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: to respond to DJ's poll there with Manic, I feel 711 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: like I also have to piggyback onto that one because 712 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: really it's I want to see proof in the correct 713 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: sample size and in this tournament run. Are they going 714 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: to them? Are they giving them opportunities for three? And 715 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: Manic you know, absolutely checks those boxes. So I think, 716 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: did you say it was plus money? I think I 717 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: saw seven even money? Yeah, even my I think that 718 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: that's good enough to spark my interest. This is going 719 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: to be a game that there's going to be lots 720 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: of stretches of both teams just bombing away. In terms 721 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: of like other props that I'm interested in, this isn't 722 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: a player prop, but I will throw it out. I 723 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: always love a double result, particularly in big games where 724 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: you get emotional swings. So I'll probably go with Duke 725 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: first half and the North Carolina win the game, and 726 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: you get some really good payouts on those, particularly when 727 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: you're taking the underdog to come back after a halftime deficit. 728 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: So I'll go ahead with that in terms of, you know, 729 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: my overall belief that Duke may get a little bit 730 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: tight down the stretch. With this being coach kse last game. 731 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: I know we talked about narrative, but if North Carolina 732 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: is going to do it, I think I'd rather have 733 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: a huge payout as opposed to you know, plus one 734 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: sixty plus one seventy five something like that. So, yeah, 735 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: you want to shop around on that. My threshold for 736 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: something like this would be plus three hundred plus three fifty. 737 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: If you can get a number like that or better 738 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: on the double result that I pull the trigger. 739 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And as BJ I lean Caroline, I lean 740 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: the over I don't think I'm gonna pull the trigger 741 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: on the total. I'm just a little afraid of like 742 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: the are these the balls and uh, just what I 743 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: saw last weekend, there's not a lot of room prayer. 744 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: But if I had a play, I would play the er. 745 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be really fast paced. I agree 746 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: with BJ. I think this is just and this leads 747 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: into what you said with the double result. I think 748 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a game of runs, so it's a 749 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: good This is a good game to do that type 750 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: of bet in. And I think it's gonna go back 751 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: and forth, and I think it's gonna come down to 752 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: the wire. But I think it's a great live betting game, 753 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: so I think I probably will be able to get 754 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: a better number with Carolina Live, like I should be 755 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: able to get a six. Obviously, if Calen it comes 756 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: down and goes up ten to nothing and leads wire 757 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: to wire, that ends up being a poor decision. But 758 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily gonna happen, so I don't 759 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: I might put a little bet on calendar pregame and 760 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: then wait for a better number live, So we're all 761 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: in agreeance on the tarial side. All right, Great stuff 762 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: breaking down both games. By the way, make sure you 763 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: download the wre Winning Action or Gap to follow all 764 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: of our picks, player props, and or sides or totals 765 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: for each game. Will also have great info on actionwork 766 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: dot com. And the Action Network Gap. Another reminder, Big 767 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: Bets on Campus Live Saturday morning, ten thirty am Eastern, 768 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: myself and the guys from the Three Man Weave will 769 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: be breaking down both games and will also have an 770 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: interview idea with Sean Kerner, the propmaster on some player 771 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: props on that show as well. All right, before you 772 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: out here, one final order business. I'm gonna ask two things. 773 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: Your prediction on the national title and then who wins. 774 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: This is the final final college basketball episode. Sadly we'll 775 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: have a live show on Monday, but we won't have 776 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: a episode. We really appreciate everyone listening and supporting us 777 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 2: all year. Really fun stuff. It's been a really fun 778 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: tournament and I hope we get a really fun close. 779 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: Let see if we have any giveaways. Let me check 780 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: to see if I have some quick reviews. This is 781 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: Having Sold was my favorite college basketballodcast. There's've always love 782 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: gambling and college ball. My favorite part of these guys 783 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 2: give the majors the same attention to as the power Coffics. Guys. 784 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: Keep doing what you guys doing. Shane dav One two 785 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 2: to two, make sure d m me or the producer 786 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell att old boy uncle Mitch. We'll get you 787 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: some gear. Appreciate the five star reviews. They really help us. Uh, 788 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: there's no one better in college sports and stuck you. Well, 789 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: that's not true this year, but I appreciate that. I 790 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: will listen wherever he goes. He brings great analysis and 791 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 2: understands podcast pacing better than anyone. I appreciate that. Brother. 792 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: That's s G A g A haha, s hbb f 793 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: F y a K. That's my mom saying that, thanks mom. 794 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: So make sure you DM will send you some gear 795 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: and uh one more Jay Man Mets fan, this parduct 796 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: must listen. I guess that's how you get four point 797 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: nine stars. I'm a huge fan of the other podcasts 798 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: as well. This is by far and away the best 799 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: college basketball podcasts are listening to. It's not a close. 800 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: Great job. Appreciate all that sport make. We'll send you 801 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 2: out some gear. Love to get back people that support us. 802 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: Those do help us out. But we have one final 803 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: order business. Tell me your prediction. Two things right, So 804 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: two angles here your prediction on what happens, So just 805 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: who's gonna win? If you want to go to more details, 806 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 2: that's fine. And then who ends up winning the national title. 807 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: And then on the flip side, not your prediction, but 808 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: what you want to happen. So they could be the same, 809 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: but this could be based on you know, I hate Duke. 810 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 2: I have a futures bet on this team. I would 811 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: rather see these two teams play. Whatever you want to 812 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: go with it, Mike, I'll start with you, what do 813 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: you think happens and who's the national title winner? And 814 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: then if you are the college basketball god and you 815 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: could just design what happens, what would you want to happen. 816 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: In terms of what I think will happen. I do 817 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: believe that North Carolina is going to stay hot, They're 818 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: going to get past you know, coach k Here, and 819 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: they're going to meet up with Kansas. I think Kansas 820 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: will end up getting a relatively easy win over Villanova 821 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: team that's just going to be, you know, unable to 822 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: fill the production of Justin Moore. And then in the 823 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: title game, I think it'll be Duke that'll end up 824 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: outclassing Kansas team. That for all the things I love, 825 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: going back to early in the season when I grabbed 826 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: them at twenty five to one, you know, the way 827 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: body was playing at the beginning of the season, if 828 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: he was playing as he did right out of the 829 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: shoot and he had that killer instinct and that kind 830 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: of spread to the rest of the team. I feel 831 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: confident because I do feel like they have the highest 832 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: top gear, but I don't have faith that they necessarily 833 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: can find it where Duke. The way that they're playing offensively, 834 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 1: I believe in that, and I think that's the easiest 835 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: thing to bank on. 836 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 4: If I had to. 837 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Choose, you know, I would say in terms of, you know, 838 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: the the overall humility factor of potentially Coach k either 839 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: losing to North Carolina or losing to Kansas in the 840 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: title game, I would love to see that. I just 841 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: think that Duke's going to end up taking it all 842 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: the way. So I think we're just all gonna have 843 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: to deal with that, and it'll be something. I'll the 844 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: way they covered Tebow on ESPN for like eight months, 845 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: They'll just be covering the Coach k coronation forever. It'll 846 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: go right into Tom Brady coming out of retirements, and 847 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: it will be the two stories that no one wants 848 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: to hear about. So I'm trying to save everyone from that. 849 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: I hope that they lose to North Carolina. 850 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: Orkds Hejay, what happens and what would you compare that 851 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: to what you would like to happen. 852 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 6: I think that Duke, unfortunately is going to barely get 853 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 6: by North Carolina with some friendly calls from the referees 854 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 6: in the fat in the last three minutes of the game. 855 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 6: And I also believe that Kansas will get by Villanova, 856 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 6: and then I just I think I think Duke could 857 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 6: ultimately end up winning the title. 858 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 4: What I want to happen. 859 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 6: I'm trying to decide as a Duke cater if I 860 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 6: want Duke to lose on a painful buzzer beater or 861 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 6: get blown out by thirty. 862 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 4: I'm thinking I'm leaning towards blown up by thirty because 863 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 4: that Coach K's last game in Cariage. 864 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 2: No, we don't want that, we need it, was so Geames. 865 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: We don't need this, all this built up for a 866 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 2: fee that's eighty three to fifty four with eight minutes 867 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: to go. 868 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: But I want the visual of Coach K on Bourbon 869 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Street apologizing to everybody, but everyone being drunk and not 870 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: paying attention, where it's like we owed you better tonight, 871 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: you know we This is my responsibility. 872 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 6: The camera shots of the Duke bench during that just 873 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 6: getting blown out is going to be so good though, 874 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 6: Like that is gonna be worth all everything other than 875 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 6: you know, the excitement or whatever. 876 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 4: And then selfishly, I have. 877 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 6: A Villanova future at twenty five to one, so I 878 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 6: hope that Villanova beats Kansas by fifty five and then 879 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 6: they go to the title game. 880 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 2: This is gonna be And then they were low out. 881 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 4: North Carolina by thirty five in the. 882 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 6: Sixty possession games, So where is that? Like fifty five 883 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 6: to twenty three. That's what I'm gonna go with. So 884 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 6: and then hopefully I can not lose that money. 885 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 2: Thank God, you're not the college basketball god designing all this, 886 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: because every game we decided to buy fifty And I'm 887 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: gonna say, I'm gonna say what I think is gonna happen. 888 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: I actually think the Nova's gonna pull off a stunter. 889 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: I think, like that first game without more everyone else 890 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 2: steps up, I think it's gonna be close. So I'll 891 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: say I think that Nova finds a way to wait, 892 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 2: and I think Carolina is also going to win, and 893 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: then we're gonna get a rematch of the recent national title. 894 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: One of the best national titles ever where Nova won 895 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 2: at the buzzer after the forgotten shot when Carolina hit 896 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: that pump fake three that no one will not many 897 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: people remember now, but it was just an amazing shot 898 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: by the goat. So yeah, I'm gonna say it's Carolina Nova. 899 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: But what if I what I want to happen. Actually, 900 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 2: now I'm gonna say yeah, I'm gonna say yeah, that 901 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: was my first gut So yeah, I think both games 902 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 2: are really gonna be honestly, corn flips. What I want 903 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: to happen is I'd rather do get to the title 904 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: and lose. I mean, I grew up with a Duke hater. 905 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: My dad was a Duke fan. He went to that 906 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: Latner shot game, sat under the basket where later made 907 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: the shot at the spectrum. I was like five years old. 908 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: Apparently I cried and didn't talk to my dad for 909 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: a week. So I grew up hating Duke. It's how 910 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: I got in a betting. I would bet against him 911 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 2: every night. I was. When I was in seventheth grade, 912 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: I was out, I'll bet you twenty. I was Duke 913 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 2: loses tonight, and I would watch every game and it 914 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: was my row is when I was my best called 915 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: the best wall Better because he would never make his 916 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: son in seventh grade give him twenty dollars if they won. 917 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 2: And this was in the nineties, so it would win 918 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: a lot, and then the rantime they would lose, he 919 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: would give you twenty bucks. And this is how I 920 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 2: got in basically my first taste of gambling. And I've 921 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: been rooting against Duke since I was a toddler. So 922 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 2: I hate Duke and I'm a Kentucky fan. We can't 923 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: have Duke win it, but I think that the hype 924 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be in Vegas. Let me know if 925 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 2: anyone out there is out come meet up for tricks 926 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: for the games for Drake for free on me. It 927 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: will be more excitement with Duke the build up. You know, 928 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: it's not like we have a week of hype. It's 929 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 2: just like one day in between. So I'd rather Duke. 930 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: I'd rather the excitement in the book, the excitement in 931 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 2: the arena, coach and then and then Coach k gets 932 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 2: his heartbroken in the final game. Oh, It'd be so 933 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 2: against Kansas because I think that we don't know a 934 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 2: can is getting like if they if they beat Kansas, 935 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna because everyone else is to step up and 936 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: it's a low possession game, and then, like Villanov in 937 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: the final, they're not gonna have more. Everyone else comes 938 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: back down to earth and they're gonna try to play 939 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: like a forty possession game in the final. Like I 940 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: don't need to see like Butler Yukon again. So yeah, 941 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: what I would want to happen is Duke Kansas, two 942 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: teams that will run in an excite, exciting brand of basketball. 943 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: If it's Kansas versus either of these teams, it'll be 944 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: a fun game to watch. But I'll say Kansas Duke 945 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 2: and a lah Kansas Syracuse final in two thousand and 946 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: three in New Orleans when Syracuse hit a late shot 947 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 2: to win it and then hi Keem Wark I believe 948 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: blocked the Kansas three in the corner at the end 949 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: of the game to seal it. I'm gonna say, uh, 950 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: Kristan Brown hits a three from the corner that doesn't 951 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 2: get blocked that wins it to beat Duke at the 952 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: buzzer nineteen years was it? 953 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 6: Coach k wasn't his first title over Kansas or did 954 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 6: he lose his first title versus Kansas. 955 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 4: I can't remember, so you have that storyline coming up 956 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 4: either one of those. 957 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 958 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 4: I'm googling it right now. 959 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: But Kansas. 960 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 4: That was, yeah, nineteen ninety one, the year I was born. 961 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: In ninety they beat UNLVA. Yeah, but they lost to 962 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 2: unov A, right. 963 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, they lost the OLV and then I believe that 964 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 4: was in New Orleans. 965 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: Final four? 966 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 4: Was that in New Orleans too? 967 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: New Orleans was ninety three when they beat nine five? 968 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 4: Gotcha? 969 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: Okay? 970 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, Duke beat Kansas and coach K's first ever title. 971 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 6: So Christian Leeiner was on that team. So a fun 972 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 6: little storyline there. If dude plays Kansas, you're gonna hear 973 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 6: that about that a lot. 974 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: To football powerhouses, That's right, Mike. Any final words, parting 975 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 2: words on the college basketball season at large next year, 976 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: these games we want to go with it or if 977 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: you feel fulfilled. 978 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: Well, I just want to throw this out there. I've 979 00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun with you guys here on 980 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: the podcast. I don't want you to go full Maurice 981 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,280 Speaker 1: State and everyone enter the transfer portal after the season's 982 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: over and then you end up on like the CBS 983 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: Sports podcast or something like that. Please come back to 984 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 1: the program. We're gonna build something special next season. That's 985 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: all I want to throw out there right now, because 986 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 1: my heart's feeling pretty full. It's been a great college 987 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 1: basketball season, not monetarily for me, just lots of bad beats, 988 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: lots of melts, lots of teams shooting out of their shoes. 989 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: Zager the other night against Saint Bonaventure just turned into 990 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: like the Splash Brothers, all these guys just making shots. 991 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: So basketball can be frustrating, but overall, had a really 992 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: great time discussing it with you guys, and I hope 993 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: we can get the band back together for the twenty 994 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty three season. 995 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely no, I'll be here and we'll be here starting 996 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: in the summer for big bets on campus college football 997 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: previously year before we know it. Pj Ady parting words. 998 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 6: Well, I just want to thank all the listeners for 999 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 6: welcoming with open arms to the VBOC family. I know 1000 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 6: you guys were all used to hearing Mike and Colin 1001 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 6: and Stucky a lot, and you know, obviously I was 1002 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 6: a new fresh voice on this program, and I appreciate 1003 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 6: people not. 1004 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 5: Saying hateful things to me every single week. People were 1005 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 5: very nice and very gracious throughout this whole thing. So 1006 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 5: thank you all to the listeners for continuing to listen. 1007 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 6: Even though I'm not Colin Wilson, I truly do appreciate it, 1008 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 6: and I'd like to thank you Stucky and you Mike 1009 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 6: for just a wonderful, wonderful season. I know it wasn't 1010 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 6: great monetarily, but I had a ton of fun doing 1011 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 6: this podcast and I really look forward to hopefully doing 1012 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 6: it again in the future. 1013 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: And we single handedly up the capacity for swap games 1014 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: online and Facebook Live, so you know, we did our part. 1015 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't just the wins and losses at the window. 1016 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: I think that's important to keep in mind. 1017 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 2: So it's thought about the Wind's loss, about the friends 1018 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 2: you make along the way, but it is ultimately betted 1019 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 2: show about the Winds losses next year with a Engines. 1020 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: Don't too worry about that. But yeah, a lot of 1021 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 2: fun with you guys. It's a lot of fun with 1022 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 2: everyone throughout the year. It was frustrating at times, but 1023 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 2: those years happen, and I hope we get a great 1024 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: final four in a great final and then it's on 1025 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: to a little rest, then some baseball, some tennis, a 1026 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 2: little traveling, and then it's into football and then it's 1027 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: right back to the to the crazy Grind. By the way, 1028 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: for those who are looking to get into some baseball betting, 1029 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: we have a new podcast with just some great baseball 1030 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 2: lines and our best baseball people. Maybe only could appearance 1031 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 2: or two on there at some point during the season, 1032 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: but make sure you check out Payoff Pitch must listen 1033 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: for the baseball grinders and even just a baseball fans, 1034 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: So check that out where you listen to the podcast, 1035 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 2: make sure you download that Payoff Pitch Mike. Get anything 1036 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 2: planned for the summer, or you've been betting anything, you 1037 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 2: get a trip, plan anything you want to highlight. 1038 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: I am gonna sit down and finally write my ebook. 1039 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: As some of the listeners know, I put together an 1040 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: all time simulation tournament for college football. The best team 1041 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty did it for college best of all, 1042 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: this spring had a really good reception online. A lot 1043 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: of people were interested in it. Matt Orlander from CBS 1044 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: Sports was following along with it. Was nice enough to 1045 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: put in some his content over there. So I think 1046 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the plunge and put it all together 1047 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: into one downloadable ebook, maybe a stocking stuffer for the 1048 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: holidays next year, just to settle or start arguments about 1049 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: the greatest teams of all time. So I think I'll 1050 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: take my off season, so to speak, I don't cover 1051 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: baseball to dig into that a little bit. 1052 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 2: I love it. Make sure plug that I plug it 1053 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: on Twitter, and we plug it next year on the podcast. 1054 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 2: Sounds like a fun endeavor, BJA. Anything you're going to 1055 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 2: be covering, indoor trip or anything you want to mention 1056 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 2: from your summer, I'll. 1057 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 4: Be covering baseball. 1058 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 6: But I guess this is kind of breaking news, but 1059 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 6: my wife is actually due with our first child. 1060 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 4: At the beginning of May, so. 1061 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 6: A child this summer, so you might not see me 1062 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 6: around the months of May and June. But I will 1063 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 6: be back this fall working as much as possible as 1064 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 6: a human can, because obviously we have college football, but 1065 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 6: we also have a World Cup in Qatar, so I 1066 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 6: will be running around trying to cover three or four 1067 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 6: different sports at once and trying to take care of 1068 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 6: a six month old child. 1069 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 4: So but I'm looking forward to all of it. 1070 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 6: So I'm looking forward to kicking back a little bit 1071 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 6: this summer, but I'm really really looking forward to I 1072 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 6: think it's one of the more fun falls of sports 1073 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 6: in a long time. 1074 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations Bjay. As a two time boy 1075 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: dad myself, I can speak to the craziness that you 1076 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: have had. But it's all awesome. And the timing works 1077 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: out great because the kid won't be mobile yet during 1078 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: football season, so you can still you know, be on 1079 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: baby duty, but keep an eye on multiple screens. And 1080 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to you dialing in live from 1081 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: Cutter with some you know, college. 1082 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 5: I'm not going to at least you see my skin complexion. 1083 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 4: I would just fry like like I'd be so rad 1084 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 4: coming back. I wouldn't make it. 1085 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 6: But you know, I mean, yeah, it's it's I'm also 1086 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be a boy dad as well, so uh 1087 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 6: it's yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy and hectic, 1088 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 6: but it's gonna. 1089 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 5: Be a lot of fun. 1090 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 2: No Doha or bj Yeah, I'm gonna reset for about 1091 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 2: a month. It's I mean this, it's it's always a grind, 1092 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: but especially when you're just not having when you're not 1093 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 2: crushing it, but just during COVID it's just dealing with 1094 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: like the all the COVID news and now settled down 1095 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 2: at least, but it just makes it that much more tiresome. 1096 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 2: So I'll take a couple of weeks, uh and just sleep, 1097 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 2: lay around or finished almost on our finished basement, have 1098 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 2: some stuff to do with that. I'll read a bunch 1099 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: of nonfiction books that I've had lined up, try to 1100 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 2: read one to day and then just lay around for 1101 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 2: about a month straight. And then it's baseball, grinding, some tennis, 1102 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 2: and then it's football prep and then everything will be here. 1103 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 2: Got a couple of trips here and there, so then 1104 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 2: it's back to the grind again. So yeah, congratulations Bja, 1105 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: and good luck on your book Mike, and good luck 1106 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 2: this weekend, gentlemen. And uh yeah, hopefully the band is 1107 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 2: back together next year. Appreciate everyone listening. Make sure you 1108 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 2: subscribe on Subscribe, subscribe Big Bets on Campus wherever you 1109 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 2: listen to your podcasts, and again a reminder, Big Bets 1110 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: on Campus Live Saturday ten thirty am Eastern with myself 1111 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 2: and the guys from three Man. We will break down 1112 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 2: both final four games and have an interview I had 1113 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 2: with Sean Kerner on his favorite player props and thoughts 1114 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: on some of mine. Once again, thanks for tuning in. 1115 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 2: Good luck this weekend with your wagers, and we will 1116 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: see you soon. Cheer soon,