WEBVTT - DESTORM POWER - That's Not A Sandwich?!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Colleen with your host, brought my apron, brought the

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<v Speaker 1>girl streets. Let's go check out day Storm Power's house up. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>go on in. This is for me, all right, come

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<v Speaker 1>on in, Hey, welcome to you, broke as bitches to

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<v Speaker 1>my home. I'm gonna straight up, We're gonna start up

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<v Speaker 1>in here right here. Follow me on in here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my podcast last studio room. Um, so you won't

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<v Speaker 1>get one of these when you're broke. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>actually start making money, which I decided to do in life,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I decided to get me a podcast from

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<v Speaker 1>So this is why I shoot all of the music

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<v Speaker 1>and all the podcasts and videos. If we walk over

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<v Speaker 1>here inside this door, if I showed you what was

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<v Speaker 1>in here, I'd had to kill you. So over and

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<v Speaker 1>here if you want here. This was a garage, but

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to turn this into the set of the

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<v Speaker 1>Retro Show. It's really beautiful. I'm shooting my new series

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<v Speaker 1>Everything Wretch. Well everything eighties, nineties and two thousand's happened

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<v Speaker 1>on the Retro Show set. Now, most people they use

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<v Speaker 1>this room as a garage, but fun that every room

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<v Speaker 1>in your house has to be usable space. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my illustrious UH Trophy and slash metal case by the way. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I got two new nominations for UM the Streaming Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>The Streaming Awards is the biggest awards show for any

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<v Speaker 1>type of digital content. I just got two new nominations.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of dope. I got four streams. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>nominated ever since. Streaming has actually used to look like this, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>They was shaped like bubble gum rappers, but they're not

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<v Speaker 1>like that. This is my Emmy nomination. That's my YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>when I hit a million back in twenty eleven. Now

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<v Speaker 1>as we come into here, this is all my dining area,

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<v Speaker 1>all the artwork I did that art piece right there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my artwork. And as we swing around, as I

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<v Speaker 1>swing around here, this is my kitchen. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we're gonna actually shoot eating while broke. And this

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<v Speaker 1>actually kitchen right here. This is actually an amazing in kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do something with it. Now let me

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<v Speaker 1>swing on around this way. You have my living room

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<v Speaker 1>area right here. This area is used a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how big this TV is. I think it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just say, give me a TV that's bigger than me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they they successfully pulled that off, because

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<v Speaker 1>when you broke, you don't get none of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get all the ship that you want when

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<v Speaker 1>you actually become somebody. And I said, if I'm longer

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<v Speaker 1>than the TV, I don't want it. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest selfie mirror in the world right here, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured. I just grabbed one of these and put

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<v Speaker 1>my hands and I don't even like taking pictures. I

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<v Speaker 1>just had it because I got a lot of female

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<v Speaker 1>friends and girls like taking picture, so I got it

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<v Speaker 1>for them. I don't use it. Actually, nine in the

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<v Speaker 1>house I don't use, by the way. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go upstairs. This is artwork right here by my boy

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<v Speaker 1>Don Benjamin. Right here you get the artwork on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>This piece of artwork was done by me. Piece of

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<v Speaker 1>artwork on that room, my friendly am Viva the artwork.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't say master bedroom anymore because black lives matter

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't have masters anymore. So this is the

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<v Speaker 1>premier bedroom. I decided that I was gonna put a

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<v Speaker 1>share and end the leer in the bedroom, which was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. I like colors. Designed it all myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the black and white effect that we brought to

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<v Speaker 1>the room. I think it's really cool. And and this

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<v Speaker 1>is my closet. It's it's a walk in closet because

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, I think my closet stopped about here, but

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<v Speaker 1>now I can actually walk back about twenty ft to

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a closet with some some good space. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>get a big closet because it's actually I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>use a lot of the things in here, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes and stuff like, I just don't use it.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my affirmations, my twelve month ago affirmations on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the wall. I gotta get five million in

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<v Speaker 1>the bank or my Facebook accounts see my family and

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<v Speaker 1>friends more because I don't see them much. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>sell two projects. I gotta released four new songs. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta reinvest in crypto. I got a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>that I have to do. Uh, let me see there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything on here that's believable. I gotta get my podcast

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<v Speaker 1>to a hundred thousand. I gotta direct four projects. And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta win an Emmy Award because I only have

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<v Speaker 1>a nomination there. So that's that's my actual goals on

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<v Speaker 1>the window as we work our way to this bathroom here.

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<v Speaker 1>This bathroom right here is the only bathroom place in

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<v Speaker 1>my house that has color. So I decided to make

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<v Speaker 1>it every color in the rainbow without saying gay. I

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<v Speaker 1>love gay, but I didn't want it to be gay.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be like colorful, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I came up with. When I

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<v Speaker 1>put every color in this bathroom right here, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty damn cool. Then across adjacent to this,

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<v Speaker 1>right across from there, you have the theater. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you step into the theater room, uh, you gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>a theater. So I decided to make this just in

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<v Speaker 1>case I want to make some premiers or something. So

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<v Speaker 1>I put a theater upstairs with a couple of shows

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<v Speaker 1>that I did on the walls there. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool. This is a really important room because

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<v Speaker 1>this room right here is every prop that we pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much use. I gotta needify it. But we have everything

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<v Speaker 1>from choir outfits to ban outfits. We have every mask

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<v Speaker 1>you can think of, every color wig that you can

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<v Speaker 1>think of, every hat, every top, we have cop outfits.

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<v Speaker 1>We have tactical wear. We have skeletons, everything that you

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<v Speaker 1>need for any type of comedy sketch that we collected

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. We put them all into this this

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<v Speaker 1>this closet right here. So that's basically I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>to party city anymore. I just go into this closet

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<v Speaker 1>if I need something for a sketch. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna expand a little more when I get a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, thanks for coming to my Oh one more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get a house, you've gotta have a book

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<v Speaker 1>that you can pull that leads you into a club room. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is my uh I like to call this

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<v Speaker 1>the boom Boom room, and this is where we have

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<v Speaker 1>the pole and the things that go down. Whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>get a home of your own. Yeah, so you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have a bone bone room. I don't even know you

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<v Speaker 1>had this. I can't believe this a theater, a secret room,

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<v Speaker 1>and all I do is push weights in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been brought you upstairs. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>use the rooms in here. I told you I only

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<v Speaker 1>use temper Center the house. We only watched two movies

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I definitely don't use the boom boom room

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<v Speaker 1>unless someone wants to come in and spend on the poe.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to spend on the boat? No, I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, But I want you to cook something to

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<v Speaker 1>eat and tell us some of this behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>of how you acquired all this. So why can you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe howse sit sometimes? Come on, you should have said

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<v Speaker 1>it to that camera camera. Welcome to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Eating While Broke. Today we decided to step outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast studio and into someone's house. Whose house they

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<v Speaker 1>Storm Power's House, entrepreneurs, social media mogul. Here we are

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<v Speaker 1>about to eat probably one of the brokest dishes of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. So the broker the dish, probably the better

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<v Speaker 1>the story. So the question is, day Storm, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna have us eating today? I'm gonna have us

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<v Speaker 1>eating syrup soudes. Now, there's a science to the syrup sundwich.

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<v Speaker 1>It has two ingredients. So you have your bread. This

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<v Speaker 1>is for you, thank you, This is for me than

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<v Speaker 1>we in the hood now right, yeah, and a mansion

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<v Speaker 1>in the hood we share and you have your syrup. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. So do you want me to make yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Make one? Okay, this is how you make a syrup

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<v Speaker 1>sundwich here I thought we would need. How you're done, Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very impressed with your that's it. So now you

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<v Speaker 1>just folded. I'll make me one bone like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>you you do, you do this angle? You can. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I do is I just take it and I

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<v Speaker 1>just you folded a half. We don't get two pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of bread. No, because you have family. Family has to

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<v Speaker 1>eat too. Don't be standy. So you take it, you

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<v Speaker 1>fold it in a half. Yeah, and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>you eat it. Yeah, you eat it from the back

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<v Speaker 1>because you've got to save the ends for dinner. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this real? You save the ends for dinner? Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>you can just you can just feel them off. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people just like to put its pretty good because the

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<v Speaker 1>ends are different. They have a different flavor to them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So you pick the edges and that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different meal. Maybe if the middle is too sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you use it to like soften the blow up

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<v Speaker 1>the sweetness. No, because you just take the sweetness. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look how the food comber. So therefore you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about eating in the next day. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. I don't even I can't believe you

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<v Speaker 1>just to eat this. It's crazy. I'm sorry. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's just too much syrup, but I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>you made it to live. So that's where didn't this

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<v Speaker 1>dish come from? Like what happened? What was going on

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<v Speaker 1>at the time when you guys were consuming dinner ends?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think what happens is you run out

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<v Speaker 1>of food. So that's where it starts. Know what? Um

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<v Speaker 1>So we ran out of food and my mother knew

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<v Speaker 1>someone who worked at the super market. At most supermarkets

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<v Speaker 1>around the country, what they do with the bread that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't usually throw it out, So because she had

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<v Speaker 1>to connect, they would throw the bread out behind the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 1>So we would just go and get the left over

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<v Speaker 1>bread and then the certain we could just get that

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<v Speaker 1>from McDonald's. We could get that from you know, KFC

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<v Speaker 1>or any place. You know they have little surf packets.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you take the serve package with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the leftover bread, You've got something ill storm you were

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<v Speaker 1>seriously that broke obviously, I mean, yeah, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you come from syrup sandwiches to please? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>move in with you? It sounds amazing. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>for the set a lot. It was just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work, a lot of a lot of faith, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work. And I had a plan hit it

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<v Speaker 1>all in my head. You had a plan. But in

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<v Speaker 1>that environment, sitting there with your siblings, how many siblings

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<v Speaker 1>did you have? I have seven siblings, so there's eight

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<v Speaker 1>of us, and so was my mother. The eight of us,

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<v Speaker 1>my two cousins. My cousin had a child, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>about thirteen of us in one So one loaf of

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<v Speaker 1>bread last, one meal. I would assume dinner, we grab

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of loaves and if he was lucky to

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<v Speaker 1>get some bagels bagels last, because they thinker you get

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<v Speaker 1>the bagels, bagels more dents. So if you get if

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<v Speaker 1>you get the bagels, good for two days. What I

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<v Speaker 1>love about your story is the fact that I can

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<v Speaker 1>honestly say I was never this broke, and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that in your house, I'm assuming, did you guys see

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<v Speaker 1>yourselves as poor or broke? No, it was cool and

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<v Speaker 1>it was cool. We didn't. I think I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>about who your parents is, right. My mother and never

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<v Speaker 1>let us realized we were broke, because she would go

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<v Speaker 1>to the drift stores and get us like a little

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<v Speaker 1>puzzles and things to keep us busy while she would

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<v Speaker 1>work in things. So we would have little odd jobs

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<v Speaker 1>here and there, and she just kept us busy with

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<v Speaker 1>what we did. So we never even thought about it

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<v Speaker 1>being broke until someone like you brought it up there

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<v Speaker 1>and this was the del I'm sorry, this was this

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<v Speaker 1>is the new pancake dinner. Um, so what was the

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<v Speaker 1>last time you eat this day? Um, it's been years.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had I haven't had bread in in years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need bread or right or any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely don't need to serve classified. This is unhealthy. This

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<v Speaker 1>is very unhealthy. I don't I don't need that all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Once you learn about nutrition, you don't touch

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But back then you have to survive. You eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I take a whole load of I had to. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you're eating this, you're saying you knew you always

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<v Speaker 1>had a plan. When did that plan hit you? I

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<v Speaker 1>think the plan hit me when I um me and

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers put it. We had a song that hit

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<v Speaker 1>the radio in Baltimore, and we did in Bostibore. They

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<v Speaker 1>have their own thing. They have club music. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>DC has Gogol Music and Chicago has their own music.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had made a song and it hit the

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<v Speaker 1>radio and I knew. My mother said, wow, if you

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<v Speaker 1>even make it, heaven think it anyway, go to New

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<v Speaker 1>York and then we do a little party and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just packed up you know the clips that we

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<v Speaker 1>all pitched in for, and I joke to New York. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was scary, but I knew. I knew once I

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<v Speaker 1>got because I knew this one. I was doing all

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<v Speaker 1>these jobs. I was doing forty fifty drops with different

0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.600
<v Speaker 1>DJs around the treat. This is when the internet was

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<v Speaker 1>like brand new. And then this dude he worked over

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Bad Boy Records, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>YEO want you to come out to New York And

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<v Speaker 1>so I said, I believe them. So I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>drove out to New York. I just took the drove.

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<v Speaker 1>I drove to Harlem when I was like eighteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing you didn't have a lot of money. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any money, So you drive there, you have

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<v Speaker 1>enough to pay for gas. I had enough to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for gas and um, so when I got there, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>there was this website called sublet dot com. So when

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<v Speaker 1>sublet dot com, I was leasing out this crackheads bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>She was she was cracking and all, and she would

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<v Speaker 1>lease out of bar room. But she had a pimp.

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<v Speaker 1>So eventually I wasn't able to pay his rent. So

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<v Speaker 1>the pimp came to the door and he kicked me

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<v Speaker 1>out of her apartment. So then eventually I had to

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<v Speaker 1>live in my car. So then from my car, I

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<v Speaker 1>was and I was singing in the subway for money.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know in New York, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the hustle. Yeah, So I was singing the

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<v Speaker 1>subway and wrapping the subway so they would put money

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<v Speaker 1>in my hat. So I and I would use that

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<v Speaker 1>money to eat it too, paper gas because I needed heat,

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<v Speaker 1>and the eating the car because the wintertime. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>winners in New York, you know. Joke. So did you

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<v Speaker 1>ever apply at some point of Duscher measures? I always

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<v Speaker 1>think this as a homeless person, like in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, I'm gonna just try to go to

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<v Speaker 1>jail for the winter. Maybe, I don't know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to be free so I could kind of so

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<v Speaker 1>I could kind of like make moves, make move, make moves,

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<v Speaker 1>so to make moves. So because I was working at

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<v Speaker 1>Red Lobster as well. I was working at Red Lobster

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<v Speaker 1>Times Square to fresciate it opened up because I had

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<v Speaker 1>a job every I had thirty jobs, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and and one of my jobs Red Lobster when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Maryland Baltimore, and they transferred my my job

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<v Speaker 1>over to New York. But I lost that job the

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<v Speaker 1>first week I was there because I had braids in

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<v Speaker 1>my hair and the management racist, yes, short and sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, I'm not cutting my brains. Like no,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. You know I couldn't. We all read the Bible.

0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.760
<v Speaker 1>We can't cut your hair. That's your power. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't cut my hair. And I lost my job at

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<v Speaker 1>Red Lobster that year, and and um with my last check,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought amp. I bought that microphone. I brought two

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<v Speaker 1>outfits because you know, in New York you have to

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<v Speaker 1>look good. I brought the two outfits. I brought some

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<v Speaker 1>tents for the windows of the car that I had,

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<v Speaker 1>and what else on, and brought some CDs so I

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<v Speaker 1>burned all my demos onto CDs. I tended the windows

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<v Speaker 1>on my car myself. I brought the amp and the

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<v Speaker 1>keyboard so I could sing in the subways. And I

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<v Speaker 1>brought the two outfits so I could look good. So

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<v Speaker 1>you were prepared. I was prepared. Oh and I paid

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<v Speaker 1>my cellphone bill for two months because I say that

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't do this in sixty days, my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna kill me. So she would call me and

0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, Mom would did it right now? I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, did it? You just didn't want to stress

0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.440
<v Speaker 1>her out. Didn't want stress her out because she had

0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:39.960
<v Speaker 1>things to take care of. So I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>killing the New York. I was homeless, so I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>New York singing in the subways and everything. Then one

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<v Speaker 1>day I came home and my car was burned down.

0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess had electrical fire or something like that. Everything

0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I owned was in that car. So eventually I had

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<v Speaker 1>to actually live in the subway stations, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do that for my forty five days or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn that tough. At that point, did you at least think, mmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's something to go pack up and go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Baltimore. Yeah, I did. Um And and when I

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<v Speaker 1>got to the moment where I thought I'd go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Baltimore, I remember I had these bags around my

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<v Speaker 1>feet and I was walking through the snow, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, damn, I'm gonna call my brother and tell

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<v Speaker 1>him I didn't make it in New York, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I was lying to them the whole time. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I went to make a telephone call to call my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling him up. And I remember when I'm singing

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<v Speaker 1>the subway, people give me their cards and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I went to make the car, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>cards that they gave me fall in the snow. I

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<v Speaker 1>picked up the car and I'm like, should I call

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<v Speaker 1>number on this card or should I or should I

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<v Speaker 1>just call my brother? Said I'm I'm gonna calling number

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<v Speaker 1>on the card. I'm already here. So I called him

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<v Speaker 1>on the card and this Dominican girl answers the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh my goodness, oh my girl, yo yo.

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<v Speaker 1>My boss loves them always dope you. And I'm lying

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<v Speaker 1>to her. I was like, well, if your boss let

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<v Speaker 1>my demo telling me, you pull up on me right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because I got these inter Music Universal records. I was lying,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can tell by her enthusiasm that she was serious.

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<v Speaker 1>So she said, no, no, let me put him on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, so she put Jonathan on the phone. He

0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.360
<v Speaker 1>gets on the phone. He's like, Yo, day starm I

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<v Speaker 1>love your ship man. What's you come on down to

0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.640
<v Speaker 1>my my my joint? And I was like, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>come down there right now. He was like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Hamptons. And I was like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got these meetings over at Jake Records. I'm lying again.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, no, come down here right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have money to get on the subway, so I

0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.720
<v Speaker 1>jumped the turnstyle. I caught the train down to the

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<v Speaker 1>Lower east Side. And when I get to his place,

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<v Speaker 1>he plaques all over his walls and everything, and he's like, yo, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I can get you drops on m t V, V,

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<v Speaker 1>H Want and b TV. I can get you right

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<v Speaker 1>for these arts. And I knew he was serious because

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<v Speaker 1>of the work that he had around. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, look, gonna be honest with you, John, to look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm broke. I've been living on the street for like

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<v Speaker 1>forty five days. Did you at least you know? On

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<v Speaker 1>the course. So what I did like to shower in Macy's.

0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So I would take a shower in Macy's and then

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<v Speaker 1>how did you Because you wanted the sinks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to sing, you know, you clean up or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I would, you know, with a little bit

0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of money I made, sometimes I buy stuff. Well I

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<v Speaker 1>just used the five thing of discount and just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get a couple of T shirts or whatever, and to

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<v Speaker 1>do what I had to do to get new outfits

0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so I look fresh. So he was like, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>look good. I was like, no, I've been on the

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<v Speaker 1>streets because you know, you gotta look good. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ye, look, I'll be honest with you

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<v Speaker 1>if you can. If you cut me in check right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll work for you and you get me off the

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<v Speaker 1>streets or whatever, and I'll give you what you need.

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<v Speaker 1>So he cut me in check, and eventually I went

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<v Speaker 1>from my hostel to an apartment, to um Aloft to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, working my way up. I started getting place

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<v Speaker 1>in some beach one MTV and I worked over the Universal,

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<v Speaker 1>went to Jay Records. From Jay, I went to Atlantic

0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I met with in Houston and J Records and Jeff Finster. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so um wrote three songs that she never used. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Um, then I'm going to Atlantic Record. Did

0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.159
<v Speaker 1>you at least get to hear them. I got to

0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.159
<v Speaker 1>meet her and everything. Yeah, she said she started she

0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I met her everything, you know. So um So then

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<v Speaker 1>from there I went over to Atlantic Records, where I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote for a few hours and ghost right over here

0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.440
<v Speaker 1>for about two years. And then, um, I, uh, the

0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.800
<v Speaker 1>music slow, so I slow down because back then you

0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.119
<v Speaker 1>were a ghostwriter. So what I did was I all

0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the while I was running track and things like that.

0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So I got my certifications from Prepostnado. I got my

0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.800
<v Speaker 1>A C s M, I got my INN A s M.

0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Nastities are physical personal training on certifications, so you're always hustling, Yeah,

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.159
<v Speaker 1>the personal trainer on the side, just in case the

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<v Speaker 1>music wasn't selling. So then I started a boot camp

0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.800
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn and I would train like fifties a hundred

0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.879
<v Speaker 1>people in the park in Brooklyn Park. And I was

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>working at the Crunch Fitness New York Sports Club. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was just doing different jobs in New York so

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<v Speaker 1>that I can kind of build my empire. Wow, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the craziest job you've ever had? Um? I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a stripper for a while when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>college and then but I would say the craziest job

0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I was an escort. So that was crazy because the demolition, construction, telemarketing. Um,

0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I had about thirty jobs. So I have to circle

0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.600
<v Speaker 1>back to the escorting, Like what's the craziest escorting story?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have one? Um? Yeah, So when I was

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<v Speaker 1>an escort, Uh, it was a lot of It was

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of old, rich white women, right, and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to like can I curse? Curse? Okay, So

0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.840
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to suck you, right, They just wanted

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.879
<v Speaker 1>to kind of like just have company, right, I just

0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.639
<v Speaker 1>want a good company. I didn't really sleep with the

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.640
<v Speaker 1>clients or whatever. And my pan was like this girl

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<v Speaker 1>she was like nineteen or whatever, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know she was a girl. Yeah, yeah, she was

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<v Speaker 1>making sure we worked. She's my friend. She was making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we have worked. So I went to this

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<v Speaker 1>one woman's house and I guess she was about sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And I was so I was young

0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>back then. She's like fifties, I guess, I don't know.

0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.600
<v Speaker 1>She felt old. And when I when I got to

0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 1>her house, she um, she was like, he know, your

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.399
<v Speaker 1>outfits upstairs in the closet, And I was like, my

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.720
<v Speaker 1>outfits upstairs in the closet, so she was like yeah.

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 1>So she was sitting there with her wine in her hands.

0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 1>She's sitting back like this and ship. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we even the outfits upstairs in the closet and then

0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just like go upstairs in the in the closet in

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<v Speaker 1>your office. So I ro was up to the top

0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of stairs. She lived in this mansion of ship. So

0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I got up to the top of the stairs and

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<v Speaker 1>when I opened the closet or whatever, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>panda outfit. So I had to wear a panda outfit

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.879
<v Speaker 1>with the it was so fucked up, So I had

0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to wear a panta outfit with the mid section dog.

0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So like my dick's out and I'm just like staying

0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 1>just like dancing in front of her, you know what

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like, and she's just sitting up there and

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>just enjoying it, like, yeah, my husband doesn't have one.

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.479
<v Speaker 1>And then she was just like, man, it was like

0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a thing. Was that like

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<v Speaker 1>one of your last escort sessions? No? No, I think

0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.359
<v Speaker 1>my last one was after this woman blindfolded me. And

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<v Speaker 1>then so I see her at the door and she

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<v Speaker 1>puts a blindfold on me. I turned around and what

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<v Speaker 1>backwards into her house and ship. She lays down, ladies

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<v Speaker 1>me down on the bed and she starts reading me

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<v Speaker 1>like children's stories and ship. Oh yeah, I think that would.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was. I was, really, you know, So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you go from all these experiences and hitting

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<v Speaker 1>these little bomps side hustling and still saying, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep going. Motivation? You know, Like, I think what

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<v Speaker 1>motivated me was seeing what my mother went through, and

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if she could take care of like twelve

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<v Speaker 1>people and she didn't complain once. I never seen someone

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<v Speaker 1>ever not complained like this woman. And she loved life.

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<v Speaker 1>She would just have fun. Well, we're gonna have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>All of us is gonna go out. She never was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the bills are not paid and we

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<v Speaker 1>were moving. I went to five elementary schools, four middle schools,

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<v Speaker 1>to high schools, so you gotta think we were getting

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<v Speaker 1>evicted so much growing up. I mean, I never knew.

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I dropped down to school in ninth grade. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even finish high school. I didn't do champ leven twelve.

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I went back to go to college when I got

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<v Speaker 1>my g D and I got a free ride because

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<v Speaker 1>I was a sprinter. But I did never even finished

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<v Speaker 1>high school, don't even I don't even did prom or anything.

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 1>But she we were getting evicted the whole time, and

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<v Speaker 1>we thought that we would just move into a better place.

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.439
<v Speaker 1>She's like, we moving again. Yeah, yeah, We're like, oh,

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:44.679
<v Speaker 1>we moving again. She made it a moment instead of

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<v Speaker 1>making it the opposite, because most people will take that

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:49.679
<v Speaker 1>experience and be like, oh man, we're getting kicked out.

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>She's like, we get to go and get some new

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<v Speaker 1>walls to draw one because every time when we get

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a new place, I draw mirrors on the wall. I

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>was an artist, like all the paintings in my house.

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I did most of the paintings, and like that one,

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the one behind us, these paintings I did. My mother

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.440
<v Speaker 1>knew that I loved art, and she just sit here

0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>just drawing the walls. We're gonna be out here in

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<v Speaker 1>a few months anyway. So I would draw murals on

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<v Speaker 1>the walls, and eventually that paid off because by time

0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen seventeen years old, I would get a

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<v Speaker 1>few hundred bucks, maybe a thousand bucks here and there

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<v Speaker 1>to actually draw in churches and the mosques and synagogues,

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<v Speaker 1>to draw like you know, the Last Supper and things

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<v Speaker 1>on walls and things so all that kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>just growing up. She would keep us busy and active

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>with what we did. So we never like we would

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<v Speaker 1>build forts and you know like mahm, I we get

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<v Speaker 1>no furnaces like brought sheets, just built forts, you know,

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:35.679
<v Speaker 1>so we would do she would. She was just clever.

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.959
<v Speaker 1>She was the perfect like mother. You know. So I

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>always do life. I just feel like I'm gonna figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out. I don't care what goes wrong. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look at what goes right and then I'm gonna figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to make it work, you know, no matter

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>who I'm with, whether I mean, I've injured myself this

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<v Speaker 1>that another, And I remember when I broke my knee

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<v Speaker 1>and the doctor told me, he said, you'll never even

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<v Speaker 1>walk properly again. And you've seen me. You work out

0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>with me, I'm jumping out, spreading, dunking basketballs out with you.

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't let you know. So when she she was,

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>she had that same attitude. And although she didn't have

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the business mind behind it like I do have, she

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>had the attitude that lets you know that I'm we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be unstoppable, you know, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>very important. So now you've been around as an entrepreneur

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and a social media mogal forever, it seems I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like every time a new platform comes out, you're like

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>so versatile. You literally, I, for lack of better word,

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like birth millionaires, like everyone in your circle,

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you played a tremendous role in their success. So my

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<v Speaker 1>question is is how are you able to keep keep

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<v Speaker 1>transitioning every time something new new happens them? So, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm getting older, you know what I'm saying, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>them at forty, So like what so, what what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do is I find new people, new talent, and

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.639
<v Speaker 1>then they're going to keep your name a lot, you

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.119
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. It's almost like the Gospel and

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>people continue to talk about Jesus, Jesus gonna be main Jesus,

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I look at it like that. Every

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>time I find someone new that's talented, I don't want

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to be your manager. I don't want to be your agent.

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>If we're cool and we get along, I'm your friend

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's a real friendship. You know what I'm saying.

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want anything from you and return. I already

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>know that if you I culdate a real friendship and

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I made more millionaires than a lot of the like

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Jay Z said, right, that's just what it is. So

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>tons of millionaires. And what I do is if they're

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 1>my friends. People going to have interviews with these successful people,

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.239
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna sit at eating while broke and they're going

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn, you were like, yeah, how did

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you get your start? They're like, oh yeah, they storm

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>helping me out. You know, he was the first thing

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 1>that kind of helped me get it to it. So

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>they keep my name alive. And at the end of

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the day, if you're managing someone taking right, I can't

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>afford their rates anymore. Man technically I could, but I'm

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>not gonna pay them hundreds of thousand dollars post right.

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>They're going to post about it for free. If I

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<v Speaker 1>come out with a food company, if I come out

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>with a clothing brand, if I come out with new music,

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>all my friends that have helped becomes a scessible. They're

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>going to show love because I showed them love. Now,

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>how are you able to like when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>how many platforms do you transition from you went from YouTube,

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>started my space, YouTube to YouTube ye ye to Instagram TikTok,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>But you remain I would like to say, in the

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>world of like boxing, it would be like you remain undefeated.

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.959
<v Speaker 1>You're always at the top. How are you able to

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<v Speaker 1>transition and choose the platform? I think I think what

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it is is a lot of people don't realize that

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a different audience on every platform. And although I'm

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>not the biggest on any platform, um one of the

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>best on every platform, if that makes sense. And you're

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the most consistent, and I try to stay consistent, right

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>because on every platform there's a different audience. Like my

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>YouTube audience don't even know that I do. They know

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>me for my music, they don't even know that do

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>comedy sketches. I'll do comedy like this is terrible, you know. Yeah,

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this for years, bro. So when I

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>realized that years ago, I said, they're not coming out

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of YouTube, the people on Instagram and not leaving Instagram, Well, lazy,

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>then I'm going to leave that platform. So I said, well,

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 1>then I'm just gonna have to grow in every platform.

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'll just make sure I grow on Facebook. I'll

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>make sure I grow in Instagram and make sure I'll

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>grow on YouTube. And sometimes I'll just cross reference and

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>just put the same content on some But for the

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>most part, I try to say, what's the best thing

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I need to do for YouTube, what's the best thing

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I need to do for Facebook, What's the best thing

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I need to do for Instagram? Because they're different worlds.

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>My YouTube content is not like my Instagram content because

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>YouTube is more of a cold following the people that

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>really like involved. Instagram is more like universal, you just

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>have everybody there. Facebook is like more family oriented, right,

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like that's the people's from back in school and everything.

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So you once you learn who the audience is, you

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>make the content for the audience. And how are you

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>able to depict that? Like, say, for instance, let's choose Vine. Okay,

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>how are you able You you killed Vine, and I

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>know there's an amazing backstory that you know, I want

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody to hear about, um, but you killed line. But

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 1>how are you able to pinpoint that audience and cultivate

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>an amazing elite group of talented individuals. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>for me it was it was high schoolers, juniors and

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>seniors will are the people who decide what's the dope.

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what anyone says. That's because you have

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>to understand freshman and sophomores want to be like juniors

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and seniors once. Once you're finished being a senior in

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>high school, you go to college and life hits you.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You have to get a job, you have to do that,

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to do the other. When you're in middle school,

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you still trying to figure it out. Elementary school doesn't

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>really count, and once you've grown, you don't really count.

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>You're just doing what's hot. But when you're a junior

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>and you're senior in high school, that's the moment of

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 1>life when everything is just cool. You just don't want

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it because it's fucking cool. You don't care, You don't

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>really have too many responsibilities. You do, but you don't. Right.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So I've seen what the juniors and seniors on. When

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Vine came out, I was like, you know at the time,

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, Like the kids

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 1>are really on you know that. You know, they're on

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>this app not just because it's popular, but because it's cool.

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>They just love using it. So whenever they're doing I'm

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>like all right, I gotta kind of like get involved

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and see what they're on. Yeah. So I would say

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that juniors and seniors to me are tricky audience because

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>unlike elementaries kids that just buy into whatever Elmo, whatever

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>you put in front of them, middle schoolers that are

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>still trying to figure it out, and then everybody else

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that's looking up to the junior and seniors, juniors and

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>seniors kind of know their power and they're like, don't

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>try to sell me this. I'm gonna find the crack

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in the covie and the jay Z under the rock in. Yeah,

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>they're like the Nike, Like Nike always signed someone before

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they propped there like oh right before you pop, here's

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>this check you know the end. I feel like, how

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>are you able to say this is the platform that

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the juniors and seniors are going to buy into? Do

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you wait like a couple of weeks? Because you're on it,

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you you kind of can feel it, especially if you've

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>been doing something for a while. I think one thing

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that I've been blessed with is the knock to know

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>of someone's still. I really feel when I see talent

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people like we don't see no talent.

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>How do you see talent that person? I don't know.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I just whether And it's not just the talent to

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>sing or rapid dance or have a specific skill set.

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the talent the most I feel the hardest talent

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.479
<v Speaker 1>in the world is keeping people's attention. So like if

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you look at the Kardashians, for example, I think they're

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>very talented because a lot of people can't keep people's

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>attention for a decade just people watching you. You know

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, that's very difficult to do. Not a

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of people might say, oh my god, they don't

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>do nothing. Yes they do. They got millions of people

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>just watching you. You know how hard is they have?

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>People just want to see what you do. And that's

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a talent in itself, and they did it for a

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>long time, but forever, you know what I'm saying. Little here, No, it'swhere, right,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>His ass on Instagram is asked, on YouTube, there's asked,

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>there's free ass on porn hub, right, So it can't

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>be just the ask right, So it's it's more than

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that to be able to keep people's attention. So I

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>see that in people and I'm like, Wow, this person

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>can keep my attention because I have a very very

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>short attentions. Man, if someone keeps my attention, I'm like,

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, then they have it. They have it.

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>And then if you have an ability to come along

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>with it, whether you sing or dance or wrapper or

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>speak or anything, then you're just doubling it down on on.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>You're going to be a star, you know, And that's

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. So I know we got a

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>wrap up scene. Okay, I have to hit you with

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 1>this when it comes to vine, Okay, I want to

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>hear the rise in the fall. Now we're friends. I've

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>heard you know some of the behind the scenes when

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it came to buying, but I would love it if

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you could share how one misstep on UND's behalf took

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>down an entire platform. So we're vying um. One thing

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that we did was I was I was, I was before,

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I was before the times. When it comes to short

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>form comedy and sketches, I was doing short form sketches

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, like really short form, and no one wanted

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to accept it. It was like this is whack. No

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>one wants to do this, Get out of here. And

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember my company failed and we lost millions of dollars.

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we did. The companies just flopped and I

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, like what am I going to do?

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But I had already had a lot of people looking

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>up to me, like you know, it's like this is

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>what you know we looked up to you. You have.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>A company was called Forefront TV like Batch, and we

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>had like you know, the whole squad was good and

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Page Kennedy and all the all of the guys are

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>mostly the black and brown creators who that you see

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>today or on the internet. But I was the president

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of the company and I kind of felt like I

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>failed them. One day, I think I saw Kevin Hart

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>on on Vine and he wasn't doing comedy sketches or anything,

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but it was an app that people would do short

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>selfies to let you know where they were. Type down,

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, I'm out here this way man. I was like, yo,

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>suppose we do a sketch in six seconds on the platform.

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I said that everybody would watch it and and it'll

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>be something that's different for the world. So I remember

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>me Batch, my boy Kane and Small Shepherd. We did

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the first actually sketch online and it went super viral,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like world start picked it up. Whole bunch of other

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.479
<v Speaker 1>places pick it up, but we did like a sketch.

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>So then we called ourselves viners, which wasn't a phrase yet.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like your way out here vining with the

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>l A Viners. So then Detroit got involved in New

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>York and um, you know, Philly and Florida, and then

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>it became vining became a thing that we kind of created.

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>So we started vinding and then from there the problem

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was as we grew on Vine, we have millions and

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>millions and millions of fans. Remember even Badget Broke Againness

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>world record for the most followers of Againness gave him

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.239
<v Speaker 1>a black or something right. And then what happened was

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I went to Karen over at Vine. That's funny, my

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>name is Karen, and I said, uh, Karen, because on Vine,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>what happens if enough kids flag your content, it automatically

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>gets pulled down. So I emailed Karen. I said, Karen,

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we're the biggest viners in the world, and these kids

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>are pulling down our content and then it's not inappropriate,

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>it's appropriate content, but their haters pulling down our content.

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>We just want an email from you guys. So that

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>we can contact you and let you know, this is

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>our content getting pulled down. Can you put it back up?

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Because we lose our momentum and this is our job.

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Companies are coming to us paying us six figures to

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>post bones, maybe given a hundred thousand dollars for one

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>vine just so they can have like a background in it,

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>or companies like they would just pay you for what though,

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to create a six seconds to create a six second company,

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>whether it was you know, bad just different companies that

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>was big at the time, or just pay us like

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>his fifty tho dollars give us six seconds, hundreds give

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>us six seconds. It was just one of those type

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of things, right And at this point they didn't want

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to give us that, and we said, we also want

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>one more thing. We want to be the link out

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to our other accounts or whether me, YouTube, Facebook or whatever.

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>They said no. So I was like, well, we are

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the people are coming to watch us

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>with the reason that the after lives. She said, you're

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the one percent. There's nine percent of people using our platform,

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and you are the one percent. We're not going to

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>do that for you. I said, well, I suppose I

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>told the one percent to walk. Well, then what are

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? Well, you tell the one can sit

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to walk? We still go, oh, all right, bitch, I'm

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna call the one percent. So I called up you know,

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>by a hundred of the top creators in the world

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Vine at the time, and I said, oh, We're not

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this no more. Let's go and walk and

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>go over Instagram. I got fifteen seconds anyway, So we dipped.

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>And when we dipped, I think the company got fifteen

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>seconds anyways. Yeah, so when we dipped, the company lost

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>about sixty percent of their profit in the legend. Within

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a week, Vine crashed. I mean you been looking at it,

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember they lost couple hundred million dollars and they like

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>fell off. So then Karen calls me up, Hey, thanks

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a high. Can I have a meeting with you guys?

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So we probably met with

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Karen on at sixteen hundred Buying Street, which is where

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the Viners stayed. Hilariously, um, and we

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>set in the conference room myself with twenty other viners,

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and I told her in that day, I was like, look,

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, if we want to continue to use your platform, once,

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I want you pay everybody in the room, you know,

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars and I want two million dollars for

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 1>for pain and soffer. So um uh. They agreed to

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>pay all the viners in the room the money, and

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>we were supposed to post two vines a week to

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>get the numbers back up. But someone in the room

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>at the time told fifteen others about the deal, and

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>those fifteen others wanted moneys too. But it's like, we

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have forty five million dollars. We got twenty, so

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>they wasn't able to pay. So no one ever went

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 1>back to mind and buying Die damn Karen. So at

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>one point you didn't mention that like you were you

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>you were a millionaire, you had success, and then at

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>one point you lost twice up twice. I remember. I

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>mean one time I had like seven million dollars on

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>my account and then I went down like seven seven

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>thousand and things. What are you thinking at that time? Um?

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yo, I'm not as broke as I

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>was when I was in New York, so I could

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>get it back again. There was more money than I had.

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>It's more money when I had when I was living

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>in the subway. So I was like, I know the blueprint.

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I just gotta figure out and not make the same mistakes,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you know how like you fixing? A part of it

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, maybe this is my time to be broke

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>because I've been. You weren't embarrassed, No, like I'm gonna

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 1>go from living in the in the hills coach. I

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't because I think what people have to realize is

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>like when you look at success and becoming successful, you

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>ask yourself, what's the worst thing that can happen if

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you take this chance? And the worst thing that can

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>happen is you go back to where you were. And

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I was already there, and your mom did make it

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 1>seem painful, right, So I've already been here, So how

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>can I be afraid of something that I've already seen?

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's like someone trying to

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>shock you and you're surprised, and then they try to

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>do it again. It's like, yeah, I don't know, You're

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be right there, So I'm not shocked. I just

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>got to figure out how to get around this obstacle

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>so that I can move forward. There's times when I

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>go through financial problems like everyone does. You know I

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>no matter what skill or level you are, you're going

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to see financial hardships because you have finance, you have

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the franchise tax board, you have the I R s,

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>you have things you invest in that don't go well.

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Many invest because in order to continue to be successful,

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>we have to make big investments and take big chances.

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>That's just what it is. You can't be safe. So

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>at the time, if I'm taking a big chance and

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I invest a million dollars into something that it doesn't

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>come through, It's like, oh, ship, Now what am I

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna do? Now? I gotta figure it out. I wasn't afraid,

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>so closing out like what are some like pieces of

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>advice or maybe some golden nuggets that either carried you

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>through or that you would give to someone that doesn't

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>get the opportunity to meet you and get your blessing

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>of support in person. I think the most important thing

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 1>for most people's consistency. You have to be consistent because

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be people, friends, family, people in your life.

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>They just don't believe in your dream. You just think

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>just won't And the crazy your dream, the more successful

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you'll be. There's times where where I dream big, but

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even drink big enough, Like when I got

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the Emmy nomination, for example, I remember standing in the

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 1>CBS with What's Good and then he was like, yo,

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I said you I'm gonna get an Emmy nomination next year.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>He said, you don't even do TV content. I said,

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get it off the internet. He say really.

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I said yeah, we'll figure it out. And I got

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the nomination, and I punched myself because I didn't ask

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>for the actual win. I only asked for the nomination,

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>which is what I got. So I think you have

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>to ask for the biggest things in life, and when

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you ask for those things, they'll come to. You just

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>have to figure out how to get there. Consistency is key.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>You have to believe it wholeheartedly yourself, because if you

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>don't believe it and you're doubting yourself. I never put

0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>negative shit out into the atmosphere. I'm always it's scared.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>You can't. You can't get scared. Get scared. You can't.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But why because again, what's the worst thing that happened

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to And this is not that expensive goods on the episode.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>So consistency is key. And just finding your lane and

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>stop and not doing what everyone else is doing. You

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, I know my lane. I

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>could have went other routes once I got successful, but

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, why not to stay in my length? Yeah,

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I love it. I love it. I think

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you're a blessing to this community. I think you're a

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>blessing to so many young people. Um, the fact that

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you take your time and I as a personal friend,

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I come to your workouts. I'm always I'm

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>always the last one putting behind. But the fact that

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>you take time and you just you look past. You

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>don't look at someone for their wallet or you know

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 1>their background. You're just like, come as you are. And you,

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson, they asked a little bit, you know, Joe

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Jackson is sometimes you need that. So I need somebody

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to kick your ass. At the end of the day.

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You're getting moving forward, ye aren't you. I mean you

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was fit at last time. I showed up rolling poly

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and walked away like thirty pounds later. Last time, I

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>produced the whole baby, and now I'm small again thanks

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to you. Just work. I mean, I'm gonna cut you

0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 1>all every day. But what you're gonna call you on

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.479
<v Speaker 1>up showing up. Well, thank you so much for your time.

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.879
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you opening up your home, letting us tour

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>your home, and hopefully, you know, one day with you

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 1>out of town, you know, maybe I could house sit

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you never know, never know. Yeah, I think I'm gonna

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>buy the house next door and then put a tunnel

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that leads front of the walk way over to that house.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I hope to get there. I really hope all my

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>subscribers can support share their meal on Eating Wall Broke

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at Eating Wall Broke and hopefully inspire me to somehow

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to move next door. Insidational salves about

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>him doing just the Cops. Thanks Karen. For more Eating

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