1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm Colleen with your host, brought my apron, brought the 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: girl streets. Let's go check out day Storm Power's house up. So, hey, 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: go on in. This is for me, all right, come 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: on in, Hey, welcome to you, broke as bitches to 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: my home. I'm gonna straight up, We're gonna start up 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: in here right here. Follow me on in here. This 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: is my podcast last studio room. Um, so you won't 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: get one of these when you're broke. You have to 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: actually start making money, which I decided to do in life, 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: and then I decided to get me a podcast from 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: So this is why I shoot all of the music 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: and all the podcasts and videos. If we walk over 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: here inside this door, if I showed you what was 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: in here, I'd had to kill you. So over and 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: here if you want here. This was a garage, but 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I decided to turn this into the set of the 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Retro Show. It's really beautiful. I'm shooting my new series 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Everything Wretch. Well everything eighties, nineties and two thousand's happened 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: on the Retro Show set. Now, most people they use 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: this room as a garage, but fun that every room 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: in your house has to be usable space. This is 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: my illustrious UH Trophy and slash metal case by the way. Today, 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: actually I got two new nominations for UM the Streaming Awards. 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: The Streaming Awards is the biggest awards show for any 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: type of digital content. I just got two new nominations. 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: That's kind of dope. I got four streams. I've been 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: nominated ever since. Streaming has actually used to look like this, y'all. 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: They was shaped like bubble gum rappers, but they're not 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: like that. This is my Emmy nomination. That's my YouTube 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: when I hit a million back in twenty eleven. Now 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: as we come into here, this is all my dining area, 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: all the artwork I did that art piece right there, 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: that's my artwork. And as we swing around, as I 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: swing around here, this is my kitchen. And this is 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: where we're gonna actually shoot eating while broke. And this 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: actually kitchen right here. This is actually an amazing in kitchen. 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: I need to do something with it. Now let me 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: swing on around this way. You have my living room 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: area right here. This area is used a lot. I 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: don't know how big this TV is. I think it's like, 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: I just say, give me a TV that's bigger than me. 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: And I think they they successfully pulled that off, because 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: when you broke, you don't get none of this stuff. 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: So you get all the ship that you want when 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: you actually become somebody. And I said, if I'm longer 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: than the TV, I don't want it. This is the 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: biggest selfie mirror in the world right here, by the way. 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: I figured. I just grabbed one of these and put 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: my hands and I don't even like taking pictures. I 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: just had it because I got a lot of female 52 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: friends and girls like taking picture, so I got it 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: for them. I don't use it. Actually, nine in the 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: house I don't use, by the way. So we're gonna 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: go upstairs. This is artwork right here by my boy 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Don Benjamin. Right here you get the artwork on the wall. 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: This piece of artwork was done by me. Piece of 58 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: artwork on that room, my friendly am Viva the artwork. 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: We don't say master bedroom anymore because black lives matter 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: and we don't have masters anymore. So this is the 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: premier bedroom. I decided that I was gonna put a 62 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: share and end the leer in the bedroom, which was 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I like colors. Designed it all myself. I 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: like the black and white effect that we brought to 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: the room. I think it's really cool. And and this 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: is my closet. It's it's a walk in closet because 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: growing up, I think my closet stopped about here, but 68 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: now I can actually walk back about twenty ft to 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: actually have a closet with some some good space. Don't 70 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: get a big closet because it's actually I don't even 71 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: use a lot of the things in here, A lot 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: of shoes and stuff like, I just don't use it. 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: I got my affirmations, my twelve month ago affirmations on 74 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: the on the wall. I gotta get five million in 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: the bank or my Facebook accounts see my family and 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: friends more because I don't see them much. I gotta 77 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: sell two projects. I gotta released four new songs. I 78 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: gotta reinvest in crypto. I got a lot of things 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: that I have to do. Uh, let me see there's 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: anything on here that's believable. I gotta get my podcast 81 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: to a hundred thousand. I gotta direct four projects. And 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I gotta win an Emmy Award because I only have 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: a nomination there. So that's that's my actual goals on 84 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: the window as we work our way to this bathroom here. 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: This bathroom right here is the only bathroom place in 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: my house that has color. So I decided to make 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: it every color in the rainbow without saying gay. I 88 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: love gay, but I didn't want it to be gay. 89 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to be like colorful, you know what I'm saying. 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: And this is what I came up with. When I 91 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: put every color in this bathroom right here, I thought 92 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: it was pretty damn cool. Then across adjacent to this, 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: right across from there, you have the theater. So if 94 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: you step into the theater room, uh, you gotta have 95 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: a theater. So I decided to make this just in 96 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: case I want to make some premiers or something. So 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: I put a theater upstairs with a couple of shows 98 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: that I did on the walls there. I thought that 99 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. This is a really important room because 100 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: this room right here is every prop that we pretty 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: much use. I gotta needify it. But we have everything 102 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: from choir outfits to ban outfits. We have every mask 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: you can think of, every color wig that you can 104 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: think of, every hat, every top, we have cop outfits. 105 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: We have tactical wear. We have skeletons, everything that you 106 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: need for any type of comedy sketch that we collected 107 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: over the years. We put them all into this this 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: this closet right here. So that's basically I don't go 109 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: to party city anymore. I just go into this closet 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: if I need something for a sketch. I think I'm 111 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: gonna expand a little more when I get a chance. 112 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: And uh, thanks for coming to my Oh one more thing. 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: When you get a house, you've gotta have a book 114 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: that you can pull that leads you into a club room. Right, 115 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: so this is my uh I like to call this 116 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: the boom Boom room, and this is where we have 117 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: the pole and the things that go down. Whenever you 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: get a home of your own. Yeah, so you gotta 119 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: have a bone bone room. I don't even know you 120 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: had this. I can't believe this a theater, a secret room, 121 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and all I do is push weights in your backyard. 122 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I would have been brought you upstairs. I don't even 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: use the rooms in here. I told you I only 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: use temper Center the house. We only watched two movies 125 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: in there. I definitely don't use the boom boom room 126 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: unless someone wants to come in and spend on the poe. 127 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: You want to spend on the boat? No, I'm good, 128 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm good, But I want you to cook something to 129 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: eat and tell us some of this behind the scenes 130 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: of how you acquired all this. So why can you know? 131 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: Maybe howse sit sometimes? Come on, you should have said 132 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: it to that camera camera. Welcome to another episode of 133 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Eating While Broke. Today we decided to step outside of 134 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: the podcast studio and into someone's house. Whose house they 135 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: Storm Power's House, entrepreneurs, social media mogul. Here we are 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: about to eat probably one of the brokest dishes of 137 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: the season. So the broker the dish, probably the better 138 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: the story. So the question is, day Storm, what are 139 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: you gonna have us eating today? I'm gonna have us 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: eating syrup soudes. Now, there's a science to the syrup sundwich. 141 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: It has two ingredients. So you have your bread. This 142 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: is for you, thank you, This is for me than 143 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: we in the hood now right, yeah, and a mansion 144 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: in the hood we share and you have your syrup. Okay, 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: that's it. So do you want me to make yeah? 146 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Make one? Okay, this is how you make a syrup 147 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: sundwich here I thought we would need. How you're done, Damn, 148 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm very impressed with your that's it. So now you 149 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: just folded. I'll make me one bone like that, and 150 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: you you do, you do this angle? You can. But 151 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: what I do is I just take it and I 152 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: just you folded a half. We don't get two pieces 153 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: of bread. No, because you have family. Family has to 154 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: eat too. Don't be standy. So you take it, you 155 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: fold it in a half. Yeah, and then and then 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: you eat it. Yeah, you eat it from the back 157 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: because you've got to save the ends for dinner. Is 158 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: this real? You save the ends for dinner? Yeah, well 159 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: you can just you can just feel them off. Some 160 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: people just like to put its pretty good because the 161 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: ends are different. They have a different flavor to them, 162 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: you know. So you pick the edges and that's like 163 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: a totally different meal. Maybe if the middle is too sweet, 164 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: maybe you use it to like soften the blow up 165 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: the sweetness. No, because you just take the sweetness. I mean, 166 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: look how the food comber. So therefore you don't have 167 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: to worry about eating in the next day. Oh my god, 168 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: that's a lot. I don't even I can't believe you 169 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: just to eat this. It's crazy. I'm sorry. I don't 170 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: know if it's just too much syrup, but I'm surprised 171 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: you made it to live. So that's where didn't this 172 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: dish come from? Like what happened? What was going on 173 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: at the time when you guys were consuming dinner ends? 174 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: I think I think what happens is you run out 175 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: of food. So that's where it starts. Know what? Um 176 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: So we ran out of food and my mother knew 177 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: someone who worked at the super market. At most supermarkets 178 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: around the country, what they do with the bread that 179 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: they don't usually throw it out, So because she had 180 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: to connect, they would throw the bread out behind the supermarket. 181 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: So we would just go and get the left over 182 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: bread and then the certain we could just get that 183 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: from McDonald's. We could get that from you know, KFC 184 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: or any place. You know they have little surf packets. 185 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: So do you take the serve package with the with 186 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: the leftover bread, You've got something ill storm you were 187 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: seriously that broke obviously, I mean, yeah, you know, how 188 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: do you come from syrup sandwiches to please? Can I 189 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: move in with you? It sounds amazing. This is just 190 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: for the set a lot. It was just a lot 191 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: of work, a lot of a lot of faith, a 192 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: lot of work. And I had a plan hit it 193 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: all in my head. You had a plan. But in 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: that environment, sitting there with your siblings, how many siblings 195 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: did you have? I have seven siblings, so there's eight 196 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: of us, and so was my mother. The eight of us, 197 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: my two cousins. My cousin had a child, so it's 198 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: about thirteen of us in one So one loaf of 199 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: bread last, one meal. I would assume dinner, we grab 200 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: a couple of loaves and if he was lucky to 201 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: get some bagels bagels last, because they thinker you get 202 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: the bagels, bagels more dents. So if you get if 203 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: you get the bagels, good for two days. What I 204 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: love about your story is the fact that I can 205 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: honestly say I was never this broke, and the fact 206 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: that in your house, I'm assuming, did you guys see 207 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: yourselves as poor or broke? No, it was cool and 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: it was cool. We didn't. I think I think it's 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: about who your parents is, right. My mother and never 210 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: let us realized we were broke, because she would go 211 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: to the drift stores and get us like a little 212 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: puzzles and things to keep us busy while she would 213 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: work in things. So we would have little odd jobs 214 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: here and there, and she just kept us busy with 215 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: what we did. So we never even thought about it 216 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: being broke until someone like you brought it up there 217 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: and this was the del I'm sorry, this was this 218 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: is the new pancake dinner. Um, so what was the 219 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: last time you eat this day? Um, it's been years. 220 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: I haven't had I haven't had bread in in years. 221 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't need bread or right or any of that. 222 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: Definitely don't need to serve classified. This is unhealthy. This 223 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: is very unhealthy. I don't I don't need that all 224 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: kind of Once you learn about nutrition, you don't touch 225 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: this stuff. But back then you have to survive. You eat. 226 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: I take a whole load of I had to. So 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: when you're eating this, you're saying you knew you always 228 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: had a plan. When did that plan hit you? I 229 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: think the plan hit me when I um me and 230 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: my brothers put it. We had a song that hit 231 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: the radio in Baltimore, and we did in Bostibore. They 232 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: have their own thing. They have club music. It's like 233 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: DC has Gogol Music and Chicago has their own music. 234 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: So we had made a song and it hit the 235 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: radio and I knew. My mother said, wow, if you 236 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: even make it, heaven think it anyway, go to New 237 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: York and then we do a little party and then 238 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I just packed up you know the clips that we 239 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: all pitched in for, and I joke to New York. Um, 240 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: it was scary, but I knew. I knew once I 241 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: got because I knew this one. I was doing all 242 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: these jobs. I was doing forty fifty drops with different 243 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: DJs around the treat. This is when the internet was 244 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: like brand new. And then this dude he worked over 245 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: and I think Bad Boy Records, and he was like, 246 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: YEO want you to come out to New York And 247 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: so I said, I believe them. So I kind of 248 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: drove out to New York. I just took the drove. 249 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: I drove to Harlem when I was like eighteen years old. 250 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you didn't have a lot of money. I 251 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: don't have any money, So you drive there, you have 252 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: enough to pay for gas. I had enough to pay 253 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: for gas and um, so when I got there, UM, 254 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: there was this website called sublet dot com. So when 255 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: sublet dot com, I was leasing out this crackheads bedroom. 256 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: She was she was cracking and all, and she would 257 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: lease out of bar room. But she had a pimp. 258 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: So eventually I wasn't able to pay his rent. So 259 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: the pimp came to the door and he kicked me 260 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: out of her apartment. So then eventually I had to 261 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: live in my car. So then from my car, I 262 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: was and I was singing in the subway for money. 263 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: So you know in New York, you know, you know, 264 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: I know the hustle. Yeah, So I was singing the 265 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: subway and wrapping the subway so they would put money 266 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: in my hat. So I and I would use that 267 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: money to eat it too, paper gas because I needed heat, 268 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and the eating the car because the wintertime. Yeah, and 269 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: winners in New York, you know. Joke. So did you 270 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: ever apply at some point of Duscher measures? I always 271 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: think this as a homeless person, like in New York, 272 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna just try to go to 273 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: jail for the winter. Maybe, I don't know, because I 274 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: had to be free so I could kind of so 275 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I could kind of like make moves, make move, make moves, 276 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: so to make moves. So because I was working at 277 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: Red Lobster as well. I was working at Red Lobster 278 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Times Square to fresciate it opened up because I had 279 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a job every I had thirty jobs, by the way, 280 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: and and one of my jobs Red Lobster when I 281 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: was in Maryland Baltimore, and they transferred my my job 282 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: over to New York. But I lost that job the 283 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: first week I was there because I had braids in 284 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: my hair and the management racist, yes, short and sweet, 285 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: you were like, I'm not cutting my brains. Like no, 286 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I was. You know I couldn't. We all read the Bible. 287 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: We can't cut your hair. That's your power. So I 288 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: didn't cut my hair. And I lost my job at 289 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: Red Lobster that year, and and um with my last check, 290 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: I brought amp. I bought that microphone. I brought two 291 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: outfits because you know, in New York you have to 292 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: look good. I brought the two outfits. I brought some 293 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: tents for the windows of the car that I had, 294 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: and what else on, and brought some CDs so I 295 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: burned all my demos onto CDs. I tended the windows 296 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: on my car myself. I brought the amp and the 297 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: keyboard so I could sing in the subways. And I 298 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: brought the two outfits so I could look good. So 299 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: you were prepared. I was prepared. Oh and I paid 300 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: my cellphone bill for two months because I say that 301 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: if I don't do this in sixty days, my mom 302 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: was gonna kill me. So she would call me and 303 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Mom would did it right now? I 304 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: didn't know, did it? You just didn't want to stress 305 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: her out. Didn't want stress her out because she had 306 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: things to take care of. So I thought I was 307 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: killing the New York. I was homeless, so I'm in 308 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: New York singing in the subways and everything. Then one 309 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: day I came home and my car was burned down. 310 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: I guess had electrical fire or something like that. Everything 311 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: I owned was in that car. So eventually I had 312 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: to actually live in the subway stations, and I had 313 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: to do that for my forty five days or so. 314 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: Damn that tough. At that point, did you at least think, mmmm, 315 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: maybe it's something to go pack up and go back 316 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Yeah, I did. Um And and when I 317 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: got to the moment where I thought I'd go back 318 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, I remember I had these bags around my 319 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: feet and I was walking through the snow, and I 320 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: was like, damn, I'm gonna call my brother and tell 321 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: him I didn't make it in New York, even though 322 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: I was lying to them the whole time. So when 323 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: I went to make a telephone call to call my brother, 324 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm calling him up. And I remember when I'm singing 325 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: the subway, people give me their cards and stuff. So 326 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: when I went to make the car, one of the 327 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: cards that they gave me fall in the snow. I 328 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: picked up the car and I'm like, should I call 329 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: number on this card or should I or should I 330 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: just call my brother? Said I'm I'm gonna calling number 331 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: on the card. I'm already here. So I called him 332 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: on the card and this Dominican girl answers the phone. 333 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my goodness, oh my girl, yo yo. 334 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: My boss loves them always dope you. And I'm lying 335 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: to her. I was like, well, if your boss let 336 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: my demo telling me, you pull up on me right now, 337 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: because I got these inter Music Universal records. I was lying, 338 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: but I can tell by her enthusiasm that she was serious. 339 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: So she said, no, no, let me put him on 340 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: the phone, so she put Jonathan on the phone. He 341 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: gets on the phone. He's like, Yo, day starm I 342 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: love your ship man. What's you come on down to 343 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: my my my joint? And I was like, yeah, I'll 344 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: come down there right now. He was like, I'm going 345 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: to the Hamptons. And I was like, well, you know, 346 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: I got these meetings over at Jake Records. I'm lying again. 347 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: He was like, no, come down here right now. I 348 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: didn't have money to get on the subway, so I 349 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: jumped the turnstyle. I caught the train down to the 350 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Lower east Side. And when I get to his place, 351 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: he plaques all over his walls and everything, and he's like, yo, man, 352 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: I can get you drops on m t V, V, 353 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: H Want and b TV. I can get you right 354 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: for these arts. And I knew he was serious because 355 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: of the work that he had around. I was like, 356 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: all right, look, gonna be honest with you, John, to look, 357 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm broke. I've been living on the street for like 358 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: forty five days. Did you at least you know? On 359 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: the course. So what I did like to shower in Macy's. 360 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: So I would take a shower in Macy's and then 361 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: how did you Because you wanted the sinks, you know, 362 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: they got to sing, you know, you clean up or whatever. 363 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: And then I would, you know, with a little bit 364 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: of money I made, sometimes I buy stuff. Well I 365 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: just used the five thing of discount and just you know, 366 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: get a couple of T shirts or whatever, and to 367 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: do what I had to do to get new outfits 368 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: so I look fresh. So he was like, no, you 369 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: look good. I was like, no, I've been on the 370 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: streets because you know, you gotta look good. So then 371 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I was like, ye, look, I'll be honest with you 372 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: if you can. If you cut me in check right now, 373 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: I'll work for you and you get me off the 374 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: streets or whatever, and I'll give you what you need. 375 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: So he cut me in check, and eventually I went 376 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: from my hostel to an apartment, to um Aloft to 377 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, working my way up. I started getting place 378 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: in some beach one MTV and I worked over the Universal, 379 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: went to Jay Records. From Jay, I went to Atlantic 380 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: I met with in Houston and J Records and Jeff Finster. Yeah, 381 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: so um wrote three songs that she never used. By 382 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the way, Um, then I'm going to Atlantic Record. Did 383 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: you at least get to hear them. I got to 384 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: meet her and everything. Yeah, she said she started she 385 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: I met her everything, you know. So um So then 386 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: from there I went over to Atlantic Records, where I 387 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: wrote for a few hours and ghost right over here 388 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: for about two years. And then, um, I, uh, the 389 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: music slow, so I slow down because back then you 390 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: were a ghostwriter. So what I did was I all 391 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: the while I was running track and things like that. 392 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: So I got my certifications from Prepostnado. I got my 393 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: A C s M, I got my INN A s M. 394 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Nastities are physical personal training on certifications, so you're always hustling, Yeah, 395 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: the personal trainer on the side, just in case the 396 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: music wasn't selling. So then I started a boot camp 397 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and I would train like fifties a hundred 398 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: people in the park in Brooklyn Park. And I was 399 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: working at the Crunch Fitness New York Sports Club. And 400 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: I was just doing different jobs in New York so 401 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: that I can kind of build my empire. Wow, what's 402 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: the craziest job you've ever had? Um? I was. I 403 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: was a stripper for a while when I was in 404 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: college and then but I would say the craziest job 405 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: I was an escort. So that was crazy because the demolition, construction, telemarketing. Um, 406 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: I had about thirty jobs. So I have to circle 407 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: back to the escorting, Like what's the craziest escorting story? 408 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Do you have one? Um? Yeah, So when I was 409 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: an escort, Uh, it was a lot of It was 410 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: a bunch of old, rich white women, right, and they 411 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to like can I curse? Curse? Okay, So 412 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: they didn't want to suck you, right, They just wanted 413 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: to kind of like just have company, right, I just 414 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: want a good company. I didn't really sleep with the 415 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: clients or whatever. And my pan was like this girl 416 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: she was like nineteen or whatever, and she was like, 417 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: you know she was a girl. Yeah, yeah, she was 418 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: making sure we worked. She's my friend. She was making 419 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: sure that we have worked. So I went to this 420 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: one woman's house and I guess she was about sixty, 421 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. And I was so I was young 422 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: back then. She's like fifties, I guess, I don't know. 423 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: She felt old. And when I when I got to 424 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: her house, she um, she was like, he know, your 425 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: outfits upstairs in the closet, And I was like, my 426 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: outfits upstairs in the closet, so she was like yeah. 427 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: So she was sitting there with her wine in her hands. 428 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: She's sitting back like this and ship. And I'm like, 429 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: we even the outfits upstairs in the closet and then 430 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: just like go upstairs in the in the closet in 431 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: your office. So I ro was up to the top 432 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: of stairs. She lived in this mansion of ship. So 433 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: I got up to the top of the stairs and 434 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: when I opened the closet or whatever, there was a 435 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: panda outfit. So I had to wear a panda outfit 436 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: with the it was so fucked up, So I had 437 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: to wear a panta outfit with the mid section dog. 438 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: So like my dick's out and I'm just like staying 439 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: just like dancing in front of her, you know what 440 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, and she's just sitting up there and 441 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: just enjoying it, like, yeah, my husband doesn't have one. 442 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: And then she was just like, man, it was like 443 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: it was a it was a thing. Was that like 444 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: one of your last escort sessions? No? No, I think 445 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: my last one was after this woman blindfolded me. And 446 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: then so I see her at the door and she 447 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: puts a blindfold on me. I turned around and what 448 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: backwards into her house and ship. She lays down, ladies 449 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: me down on the bed and she starts reading me 450 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: like children's stories and ship. Oh yeah, I think that would. 451 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was, really, you know, So 452 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: how do you go from all these experiences and hitting 453 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: these little bomps side hustling and still saying, Okay, I'm 454 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: gonna keep going. Motivation? You know, Like, I think what 455 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: motivated me was seeing what my mother went through, and 456 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, if she could take care of like twelve 457 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: people and she didn't complain once. I never seen someone 458 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: ever not complained like this woman. And she loved life. 459 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: She would just have fun. Well, we're gonna have fun. 460 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: All of us is gonna go out. She never was like, 461 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, the bills are not paid and we 462 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: were moving. I went to five elementary schools, four middle schools, 463 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: to high schools, so you gotta think we were getting 464 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: evicted so much growing up. I mean, I never knew. 465 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: I dropped down to school in ninth grade. I didn't 466 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: even finish high school. I didn't do champ leven twelve. 467 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: I went back to go to college when I got 468 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: my g D and I got a free ride because 469 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: I was a sprinter. But I did never even finished 470 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: high school, don't even I don't even did prom or anything. 471 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: But she we were getting evicted the whole time, and 472 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: we thought that we would just move into a better place. 473 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: She's like, we moving again. Yeah, yeah, We're like, oh, 474 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: we moving again. She made it a moment instead of 475 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: making it the opposite, because most people will take that 476 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: experience and be like, oh man, we're getting kicked out. 477 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: She's like, we get to go and get some new 478 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: walls to draw one because every time when we get 479 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: a new place, I draw mirrors on the wall. I 480 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: was an artist, like all the paintings in my house. 481 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: I did most of the paintings, and like that one, 482 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: the one behind us, these paintings I did. My mother 483 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: knew that I loved art, and she just sit here 484 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: just drawing the walls. We're gonna be out here in 485 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: a few months anyway. So I would draw murals on 486 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: the walls, and eventually that paid off because by time 487 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: I was sixteen seventeen years old, I would get a 488 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: few hundred bucks, maybe a thousand bucks here and there 489 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: to actually draw in churches and the mosques and synagogues, 490 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: to draw like you know, the Last Supper and things 491 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: on walls and things so all that kind of like 492 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: just growing up. She would keep us busy and active 493 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: with what we did. So we never like we would 494 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: build forts and you know like mahm, I we get 495 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: no furnaces like brought sheets, just built forts, you know, 496 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: so we would do she would. She was just clever. 497 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: She was the perfect like mother. You know. So I 498 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: always do life. I just feel like I'm gonna figure 499 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: it out. I don't care what goes wrong. I'm gonna 500 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: look at what goes right and then I'm gonna figure 501 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: out how to make it work, you know, no matter 502 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: who I'm with, whether I mean, I've injured myself this 503 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: that another, And I remember when I broke my knee 504 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: and the doctor told me, he said, you'll never even 505 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: walk properly again. And you've seen me. You work out 506 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: with me, I'm jumping out, spreading, dunking basketballs out with you. 507 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't let you know. So when she she was, 508 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: she had that same attitude. And although she didn't have 509 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: the business mind behind it like I do have, she 510 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: had the attitude that lets you know that I'm we're 511 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: going to be unstoppable, you know, and I think that's 512 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: very important. So now you've been around as an entrepreneur 513 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: and a social media mogal forever, it seems I feel 514 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: like every time a new platform comes out, you're like 515 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: so versatile. You literally, I, for lack of better word, 516 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: I feel like birth millionaires, like everyone in your circle, 517 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: you played a tremendous role in their success. So my 518 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: question is is how are you able to keep keep 519 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: transitioning every time something new new happens them? So, I 520 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: know I'm getting older, you know what I'm saying, I'm 521 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: them at forty, So like what so, what what I'm 522 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna do is I find new people, new talent, and 523 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: then they're going to keep your name a lot, you 524 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's almost like the Gospel and 525 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: people continue to talk about Jesus, Jesus gonna be main Jesus, 526 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: you know. So I look at it like that. Every 527 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: time I find someone new that's talented, I don't want 528 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: to be your manager. I don't want to be your agent. 529 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: If we're cool and we get along, I'm your friend 530 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: and it's a real friendship. You know what I'm saying. 531 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't want anything from you and return. I already 532 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: know that if you I culdate a real friendship and 533 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I made more millionaires than a lot of the like 534 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: Jay Z said, right, that's just what it is. So 535 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: tons of millionaires. And what I do is if they're 536 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: my friends. People going to have interviews with these successful people, 537 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: They're gonna sit at eating while broke and they're going 538 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you were like, yeah, how did 539 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: you get your start? They're like, oh yeah, they storm 540 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: helping me out. You know, he was the first thing 541 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: that kind of helped me get it to it. So 542 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: they keep my name alive. And at the end of 543 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: the day, if you're managing someone taking right, I can't 544 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: afford their rates anymore. Man technically I could, but I'm 545 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: not gonna pay them hundreds of thousand dollars post right. 546 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: They're going to post about it for free. If I 547 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: come out with a food company, if I come out 548 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: with a clothing brand, if I come out with new music, 549 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: all my friends that have helped becomes a scessible. They're 550 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: going to show love because I showed them love. Now, 551 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: how are you able to like when you look at 552 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: how many platforms do you transition from you went from YouTube, 553 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: started my space, YouTube to YouTube ye ye to Instagram TikTok, 554 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: But you remain I would like to say, in the 555 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: world of like boxing, it would be like you remain undefeated. 556 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: You're always at the top. How are you able to 557 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: transition and choose the platform? I think I think what 558 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: it is is a lot of people don't realize that 559 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: there's a different audience on every platform. And although I'm 560 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: not the biggest on any platform, um one of the 561 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: best on every platform, if that makes sense. And you're 562 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: the most consistent, and I try to stay consistent, right 563 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: because on every platform there's a different audience. Like my 564 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: YouTube audience don't even know that I do. They know 565 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: me for my music, they don't even know that do 566 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: comedy sketches. I'll do comedy like this is terrible, you know. Yeah, 567 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for years, bro. So when I 568 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: realized that years ago, I said, they're not coming out 569 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: of YouTube, the people on Instagram and not leaving Instagram, Well, lazy, 570 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: then I'm going to leave that platform. So I said, well, 571 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: then I'm just gonna have to grow in every platform. 572 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: So I'll just make sure I grow on Facebook. I'll 573 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: make sure I grow in Instagram and make sure I'll 574 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: grow on YouTube. And sometimes I'll just cross reference and 575 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: just put the same content on some But for the 576 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: most part, I try to say, what's the best thing 577 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I need to do for YouTube, what's the best thing 578 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: I need to do for Facebook, What's the best thing 579 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: I need to do for Instagram? Because they're different worlds. 580 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: My YouTube content is not like my Instagram content because 581 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: YouTube is more of a cold following the people that 582 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: really like involved. Instagram is more like universal, you just 583 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: have everybody there. Facebook is like more family oriented, right, 584 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: It's like that's the people's from back in school and everything. 585 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: So you once you learn who the audience is, you 586 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: make the content for the audience. And how are you 587 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: able to depict that? Like, say, for instance, let's choose Vine. Okay, 588 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: how are you able You you killed Vine, and I 589 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: know there's an amazing backstory that you know, I want 590 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: everybody to hear about, um, but you killed line. But 591 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: how are you able to pinpoint that audience and cultivate 592 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: an amazing elite group of talented individuals. But I think 593 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: for me it was it was high schoolers, juniors and 594 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: seniors will are the people who decide what's the dope. 595 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says. That's because you have 596 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: to understand freshman and sophomores want to be like juniors 597 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: and seniors once. Once you're finished being a senior in 598 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: high school, you go to college and life hits you. 599 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: You have to get a job, you have to do that, 600 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: you have to do the other. When you're in middle school, 601 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: you still trying to figure it out. Elementary school doesn't 602 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: really count, and once you've grown, you don't really count. 603 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: You're just doing what's hot. But when you're a junior 604 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: and you're senior in high school, that's the moment of 605 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: life when everything is just cool. You just don't want 606 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: it because it's fucking cool. You don't care, You don't 607 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: really have too many responsibilities. You do, but you don't. Right. 608 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: So I've seen what the juniors and seniors on. When 609 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: Vine came out, I was like, you know at the time, 610 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, Like the kids 611 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: are really on you know that. You know, they're on 612 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: this app not just because it's popular, but because it's cool. 613 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: They just love using it. So whenever they're doing I'm 614 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: like all right, I gotta kind of like get involved 615 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: and see what they're on. Yeah. So I would say 616 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: that juniors and seniors to me are tricky audience because 617 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: unlike elementaries kids that just buy into whatever Elmo, whatever 618 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: you put in front of them, middle schoolers that are 619 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out, and then everybody else 620 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: that's looking up to the junior and seniors, juniors and 621 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: seniors kind of know their power and they're like, don't 622 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: try to sell me this. I'm gonna find the crack 623 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: in the covie and the jay Z under the rock in. Yeah, 624 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: they're like the Nike, Like Nike always signed someone before 625 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: they propped there like oh right before you pop, here's 626 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: this check you know the end. I feel like, how 627 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: are you able to say this is the platform that 628 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: the juniors and seniors are going to buy into? Do 629 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: you wait like a couple of weeks? Because you're on it, 630 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: you you kind of can feel it, especially if you've 631 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: been doing something for a while. I think one thing 632 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: that I've been blessed with is the knock to know 633 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: of someone's still. I really feel when I see talent 634 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of people like we don't see no talent. 635 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: How do you see talent that person? I don't know. 636 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: I just whether And it's not just the talent to 637 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: sing or rapid dance or have a specific skill set. 638 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: It's the talent the most I feel the hardest talent 639 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: in the world is keeping people's attention. So like if 640 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: you look at the Kardashians, for example, I think they're 641 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: very talented because a lot of people can't keep people's 642 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: attention for a decade just people watching you. You know 643 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's very difficult to do. Not a 644 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: lot of people might say, oh my god, they don't 645 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: do nothing. Yes they do. They got millions of people 646 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: just watching you. You know how hard is they have? 647 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: People just want to see what you do. And that's 648 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: a talent in itself, and they did it for a 649 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: long time, but forever, you know what I'm saying. Little here, No, it'swhere, right, 650 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: His ass on Instagram is asked, on YouTube, there's asked, 651 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: there's free ass on porn hub, right, So it can't 652 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: be just the ask right, So it's it's more than 653 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: that to be able to keep people's attention. So I 654 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: see that in people and I'm like, Wow, this person 655 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: can keep my attention because I have a very very 656 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: short attentions. Man, if someone keeps my attention, I'm like, 657 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, then they have it. They have it. 658 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: And then if you have an ability to come along 659 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: with it, whether you sing or dance or wrapper or 660 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: speak or anything, then you're just doubling it down on on. 661 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: You're going to be a star, you know, And that's 662 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: that's what it is. So I know we got a 663 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: wrap up scene. Okay, I have to hit you with 664 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: this when it comes to vine, Okay, I want to 665 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: hear the rise in the fall. Now we're friends. I've 666 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: heard you know some of the behind the scenes when 667 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: it came to buying, but I would love it if 668 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: you could share how one misstep on UND's behalf took 669 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: down an entire platform. So we're vying um. One thing 670 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: that we did was I was I was, I was before, 671 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: I was before the times. When it comes to short 672 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: form comedy and sketches, I was doing short form sketches 673 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: on YouTube, like really short form, and no one wanted 674 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: to accept it. It was like this is whack. No 675 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: one wants to do this, Get out of here. And 676 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: I remember my company failed and we lost millions of dollars. 677 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we did. The companies just flopped and I 678 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: was like, wow, like what am I going to do? 679 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: But I had already had a lot of people looking 680 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: up to me, like you know, it's like this is 681 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: what you know we looked up to you. You have. 682 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: A company was called Forefront TV like Batch, and we 683 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: had like you know, the whole squad was good and 684 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Page Kennedy and all the all of the guys are 685 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: mostly the black and brown creators who that you see 686 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: today or on the internet. But I was the president 687 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: of the company and I kind of felt like I 688 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: failed them. One day, I think I saw Kevin Hart 689 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: on on Vine and he wasn't doing comedy sketches or anything, 690 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: but it was an app that people would do short 691 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: selfies to let you know where they were. Type down, 692 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm out here this way man. I was like, yo, 693 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: suppose we do a sketch in six seconds on the platform. 694 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: I said that everybody would watch it and and it'll 695 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: be something that's different for the world. So I remember 696 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: me Batch, my boy Kane and Small Shepherd. We did 697 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: the first actually sketch online and it went super viral, 698 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: like world start picked it up. Whole bunch of other 699 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 1: places pick it up, but we did like a sketch. 700 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: So then we called ourselves viners, which wasn't a phrase yet. 701 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: It was like your way out here vining with the 702 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: l A Viners. So then Detroit got involved in New 703 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: York and um, you know, Philly and Florida, and then 704 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: it became vining became a thing that we kind of created. 705 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: So we started vinding and then from there the problem 706 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: was as we grew on Vine, we have millions and 707 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: millions and millions of fans. Remember even Badget Broke Againness 708 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: world record for the most followers of Againness gave him 709 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: a black or something right. And then what happened was 710 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: I went to Karen over at Vine. That's funny, my 711 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: name is Karen, and I said, uh, Karen, because on Vine, 712 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: what happens if enough kids flag your content, it automatically 713 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: gets pulled down. So I emailed Karen. I said, Karen, 714 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: we're the biggest viners in the world, and these kids 715 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: are pulling down our content and then it's not inappropriate, 716 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: it's appropriate content, but their haters pulling down our content. 717 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: We just want an email from you guys. So that 718 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: we can contact you and let you know, this is 719 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: our content getting pulled down. Can you put it back up? 720 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: Because we lose our momentum and this is our job. 721 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: Companies are coming to us paying us six figures to 722 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: post bones, maybe given a hundred thousand dollars for one 723 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: vine just so they can have like a background in it, 724 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: or companies like they would just pay you for what though, 725 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: to create a six seconds to create a six second company, 726 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: whether it was you know, bad just different companies that 727 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: was big at the time, or just pay us like 728 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: his fifty tho dollars give us six seconds, hundreds give 729 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: us six seconds. It was just one of those type 730 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: of things, right And at this point they didn't want 731 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: to give us that, and we said, we also want 732 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: one more thing. We want to be the link out 733 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: to our other accounts or whether me, YouTube, Facebook or whatever. 734 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: They said no. So I was like, well, we are 735 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: the you know, the people are coming to watch us 736 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: with the reason that the after lives. She said, you're 737 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: the one percent. There's nine percent of people using our platform, 738 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: and you are the one percent. We're not going to 739 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: do that for you. I said, well, I suppose I 740 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: told the one percent to walk. Well, then what are 741 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Well, you tell the one can sit 742 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: to walk? We still go, oh, all right, bitch, I'm 743 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna call the one percent. So I called up you know, 744 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: by a hundred of the top creators in the world 745 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: Vine at the time, and I said, oh, We're not 746 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna do this no more. Let's go and walk and 747 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: go over Instagram. I got fifteen seconds anyway, So we dipped. 748 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: And when we dipped, I think the company got fifteen 749 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: seconds anyways. Yeah, so when we dipped, the company lost 750 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: about sixty percent of their profit in the legend. Within 751 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: a week, Vine crashed. I mean you been looking at it, 752 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Remember they lost couple hundred million dollars and they like 753 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: fell off. So then Karen calls me up, Hey, thanks 754 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: a high. Can I have a meeting with you guys? 755 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So we probably met with 756 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: Karen on at sixteen hundred Buying Street, which is where 757 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the Viners stayed. Hilariously, um, and we 758 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: set in the conference room myself with twenty other viners, 759 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: and I told her in that day, I was like, look, 760 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, if we want to continue to use your platform, once, 761 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: I want you pay everybody in the room, you know, 762 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: a million dollars and I want two million dollars for 763 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: for pain and soffer. So um uh. They agreed to 764 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: pay all the viners in the room the money, and 765 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: we were supposed to post two vines a week to 766 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: get the numbers back up. But someone in the room 767 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: at the time told fifteen others about the deal, and 768 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: those fifteen others wanted moneys too. But it's like, we 769 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: don't have forty five million dollars. We got twenty, so 770 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: they wasn't able to pay. So no one ever went 771 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: back to mind and buying Die damn Karen. So at 772 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: one point you didn't mention that like you were you 773 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: you were a millionaire, you had success, and then at 774 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: one point you lost twice up twice. I remember. I 775 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: mean one time I had like seven million dollars on 776 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: my account and then I went down like seven seven 777 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: thousand and things. What are you thinking at that time? Um? 778 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'm not as broke as I 779 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: was when I was in New York, so I could 780 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: get it back again. There was more money than I had. 781 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: It's more money when I had when I was living 782 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: in the subway. So I was like, I know the blueprint. 783 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: I just gotta figure out and not make the same mistakes, 784 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: you know how like you fixing? A part of it 785 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: was like, maybe this is my time to be broke 786 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: because I've been. You weren't embarrassed, No, like I'm gonna 787 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: go from living in the in the hills coach. I 788 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: wasn't because I think what people have to realize is 789 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: like when you look at success and becoming successful, you 790 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: ask yourself, what's the worst thing that can happen if 791 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: you take this chance? And the worst thing that can 792 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: happen is you go back to where you were. And 793 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: I was already there, and your mom did make it 794 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: seem painful, right, So I've already been here, So how 795 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: can I be afraid of something that I've already seen? 796 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like someone trying to 797 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: shock you and you're surprised, and then they try to 798 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: do it again. It's like, yeah, I don't know, You're 799 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna be right there, So I'm not shocked. I just 800 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: got to figure out how to get around this obstacle 801 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: so that I can move forward. There's times when I 802 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: go through financial problems like everyone does. You know I 803 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: no matter what skill or level you are, you're going 804 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: to see financial hardships because you have finance, you have 805 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: the franchise tax board, you have the I R s, 806 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: you have things you invest in that don't go well. 807 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: Many invest because in order to continue to be successful, 808 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: we have to make big investments and take big chances. 809 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: That's just what it is. You can't be safe. So 810 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: at the time, if I'm taking a big chance and 811 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: I invest a million dollars into something that it doesn't 812 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: come through, It's like, oh, ship, Now what am I 813 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna do? Now? I gotta figure it out. I wasn't afraid, 814 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: so closing out like what are some like pieces of 815 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: advice or maybe some golden nuggets that either carried you 816 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: through or that you would give to someone that doesn't 817 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to meet you and get your blessing 818 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: of support in person. I think the most important thing 819 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: for most people's consistency. You have to be consistent because 820 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: they're going to be people, friends, family, people in your life. 821 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: They just don't believe in your dream. You just think 822 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: just won't And the crazy your dream, the more successful 823 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: you'll be. There's times where where I dream big, but 824 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even drink big enough, Like when I got 825 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: the Emmy nomination, for example, I remember standing in the 826 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: CBS with What's Good and then he was like, yo, 827 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: I said you I'm gonna get an Emmy nomination next year. 828 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: He said, you don't even do TV content. I said, 829 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it off the internet. He say really. 830 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: I said yeah, we'll figure it out. And I got 831 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: the nomination, and I punched myself because I didn't ask 832 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: for the actual win. I only asked for the nomination, 833 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: which is what I got. So I think you have 834 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: to ask for the biggest things in life, and when 835 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: you ask for those things, they'll come to. You just 836 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: have to figure out how to get there. Consistency is key. 837 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: You have to believe it wholeheartedly yourself, because if you 838 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: don't believe it and you're doubting yourself. I never put 839 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: negative shit out into the atmosphere. I'm always it's scared. 840 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't get scared. Get scared. You can't. 841 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: But why because again, what's the worst thing that happened 842 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: to And this is not that expensive goods on the episode. 843 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: So consistency is key. And just finding your lane and 844 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: stop and not doing what everyone else is doing. You 845 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I know my lane. I 846 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: could have went other routes once I got successful, but 847 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: I said, why not to stay in my length? Yeah, 848 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, I love it. I love it. I think 849 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: you're a blessing to this community. I think you're a 850 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: blessing to so many young people. Um, the fact that 851 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: you take your time and I as a personal friend, 852 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, I come to your workouts. I'm always I'm 853 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: always the last one putting behind. But the fact that 854 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: you take time and you just you look past. You 855 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: don't look at someone for their wallet or you know 856 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: their background. You're just like, come as you are. And you, 857 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, they asked a little bit, you know, Joe 858 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: Jackson is sometimes you need that. So I need somebody 859 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: to kick your ass. At the end of the day. 860 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: You're getting moving forward, ye aren't you. I mean you 861 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: was fit at last time. I showed up rolling poly 862 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: and walked away like thirty pounds later. Last time, I 863 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: produced the whole baby, and now I'm small again thanks 864 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: to you. Just work. I mean, I'm gonna cut you 865 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: all every day. But what you're gonna call you on 866 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 1: up showing up. Well, thank you so much for your time. 867 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate you opening up your home, letting us tour 868 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: your home, and hopefully, you know, one day with you 869 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: out of town, you know, maybe I could house sit 870 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: you never know, never know. Yeah, I think I'm gonna 871 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: buy the house next door and then put a tunnel 872 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: that leads front of the walk way over to that house. 873 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: I hope to get there. I really hope all my 874 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: subscribers can support share their meal on Eating Wall Broke 875 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: at Eating Wall Broke and hopefully inspire me to somehow 876 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: figure out how to move next door. Insidational salves about 877 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: him doing just the Cops. Thanks Karen. For more Eating 878 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 1: Wall Broke from I Heart Radio and The Black Effect. 879 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: Visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 880 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.