1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. Sitting across from me is 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: when Charles W. Bryant you might know and love him 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: more as Chuckers or Chuck Chuck Tran, Chuck Tran whatever. 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Call me anything, Just call me do you can call 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: me anything? Just don't call me late to dinner. Ah. Yeah, 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: that's another good one. That's a red Kneck one, isn't it. No, 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: it's classic. It's not red nick I've always heard it 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: from redne All read Nicky's classic. So wait, what accent 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: was that? It's like Internet Italio serbian. You're getting more 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: and more refined, buddy. Um, Chuck, did you see the 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Stopwatch I have do? I went to to stare at 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: a Chuck Am. You're getting very drowsy, Chuck Am. You're 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: laying in a field surrounded by little rabbits. I love rabbits. 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: Y's the rabbits love you too, Chuck. Chuck. Yes, keep 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: your eyes open for me, Yes, yes, Chuck, I want 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: you to bark like a dog. When I snapped my fingers, ready, Wolf, 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: very good, Chuck, that was excellent. No, Chuck, I'm gonna 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: bring us out of this this horribly uncomfortable segment. When 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: I snapped my fingers, I'm gonna count to three. And 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: when I snapped my fingers, You're not gonna remember any 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: of this, just me and the people listening to this. 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Well now, okay, okay, one, two, three. Oh hey, Chuck, 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened, but I feel lame. You 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: feel you should feel lame. You have every reason of Philiams, 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: so do I, Chuck Embarrassed, I suddenly realized I just 29 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: bestowed upon you like a really great gift that you 30 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: can't remember what just happened. That was like the worst 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: intro we ever did it. It is so just thank 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: you lucky stars. Chuck. That is a great intro. Josh. 33 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Because we're talking about hypnosis, well, yeah, it would have 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: been a little weird for Australian frogs, right, that'd be weird. 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: So I'll go ahead and kick start this, my friend 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: by saying that hypnosis has been around for a couple 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: hundred years and because it has to do with the 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: brain in the mind, we still don't know a ton 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: about how it actually works. I'd like to kick start 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: this one by saying that hypnosis is complete. I don't 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: agree because I have been hypnotized and we will get 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: to that later. Really, yeah, have you really? Yeah? Sort of. Well, 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. I'll walk you through my experience later. 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: That would be great. You've been hypnotized twice. Now you 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: realize that you don't remember it. But I don't know 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I know you don't, but you've 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: been hypnotized twice. So technically speaking, buddy, a trance like 48 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: state is what hypnosis is. And um, it's characterized by relaxation, 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: heightened imagination, and extreme suggestibility. And they compare it to daydreaming. 50 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: You're actually hyperintentive. You're not asleep, you're hyperintentive. And uh, 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: they like in it sometimes so when you get lost, 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: like in a movie, and nothing exists outside the movie 53 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: and you are moating with the movie and you kind 54 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: of believe what's going on is real. And not only 55 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: was it compared to in this article by poor Tom 56 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Harris um to watching a movie, uh, it was also 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: compared to driving, reading, and mowing the lawn. Was it. Oh, 58 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: you didn't see that. This is awesome illustration that shows 59 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: you all the things that you can kind of self 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: hypnotize with, and one of them is apparently writing a 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: lawn tractor. Well. Milton Ericsson is a expert in the 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: twentieth century of with hypnotism. He says that this happens 63 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: on a daily basis to everybody. Yeah, and I know 64 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Like, Um, I've definitely driven unimpaired 65 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: before and been like how did I get here? I've 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: done that too, man, And you realize you're so focused 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: on a thought or a problem or it's just something 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to work out, that your body's just taken over. 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: And you can do it in a stick shift too, 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: it's not just with automatics. Yeah. You know what usually 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: triggers my realization that that's happened as I realized some awful, 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: awful song has been playing that I would never listen to, 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: like one second of like like Bad of the Bone 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: is on and it's like the bud you mean George 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: third good and the Tea Birds that now the t 76 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: Birds it's different. George Thirders, you didn't like Thur're good? 77 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: He used to go to the Hollywood Wide by the way, 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: the same we're on the same workout schedule for a 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: little while. Awesome. He like his old bones on the treadmill. 80 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: He looks like he's about to die, So I'm sure 81 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: he was. I hated Bad to the Bone, and I 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: maintain that. Okay, So if you are listening to Bad 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: to the Bone and you realize that it's like the 84 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: end of the song it's been on the whole time, 85 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: that's clear evidence that you've self hypnotized exactly. And there's 86 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: also a school of thought that all hypnosis is self hypnosis. 87 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: We'll get to those explanations later. That definitely makes a 88 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: little bit of say to me, mesmerized even do you 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: want to talk about Mr Mesmer? Yeah, mess that The 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: name actually comes from a guy named Franz France Mesma, 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: and he was an Austrian physician in the seventeen hundreds, 92 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: and he was one of the early proponents of hypnotism. 93 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: He thought it was a mystical force though, and it 94 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: um was early early on, it was a known as mesmerism, right, 95 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: and then that just eventually became like mesmerizing, right, And 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: and Mesmer's whole bit was that it was animal magnetism 97 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: flowing from the hypnotist like sleep, right, that guy coming 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: out of his fingers, in his eyes like into the subject, 99 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: and the hypnosis was the hypnotist exerting his will on 100 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: the hypnotized person um, and that was largely abandoned in 101 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century I think was Yeah, a Scottish surgeon 102 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: named James Braid coined the term hypnosis, and it came 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: to be seen as a stage that the person went 104 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: into guided by a hypnotist, right, gotcha, Well, that's definitely 105 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: what happens um when you're under hypnosis. It's always that 106 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: you talk about the suggestibility. You you think that that's reality. 107 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: So the example they gave in the the article, which 108 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: I thought was appropriate for us, is if they say, like, 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: your tongue is swollen, you believe that, and so you 110 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: might start talking like you do with a thick tongue. 111 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: That's nice. Or if they say you're drinking like a 112 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: cold soda, you might like feel the bubbles or the 113 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: cooling effect on your throat even right, uh and Chuck, 114 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: I think it's not that you think it's real, it's 115 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: that you are in much the same way it was 116 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: like into watching a movie or a TV show, Like, 117 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: do you ever watch a TV show and you like 118 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: it cuts the commercial and all of a sudden you realize, 119 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: like you're really anxious, like you're about you're in trouble 120 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: for something, and you don't understand why, and you realize 121 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: it's because you've attached to what's going on in the 122 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: show so much that you're kind of empathizing with the characters. 123 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: I think it's like that, like the idea that a 124 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: dramatic play going on inside a little box can evoke 125 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: emotions in you. That's what hypnosis say. Is this you 126 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: don't think it's reality because you're not thinking, yeah, you're well, 127 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: well we'll get into the brain of it. Then I 128 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: guess this is probably a good time to do it, 129 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: right the subconscious mind? Well, yeah, that this is this 130 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: is really where I started to zone out, and really 131 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I was like, how did I lose the last hour? 132 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: The school of thought, for the most part is that 133 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: hypnotism is a way to get into your subconscious mind. 134 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: You say hypnotism, hypnotism hypnotism, uh taps into your subconscious 135 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: and if your conscious thoughts are the things that you 136 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: have to consciously think of in a day, your subconscious 137 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: is still like hard at work doing all the things 138 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: Like you don't think I'm going to get in my 139 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: car and pick up my key to insert it in 140 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: you just you know your subconscious knows how to do 141 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: all that, right. Um. Harris used the example of like 142 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: losing your keys, right, you're sitting there in your conscious mind. 143 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: I guess in this respect, and I have to put 144 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: this claim around I don't I think conscious and subconscious 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: concepts will be around for much longer. But I don't 146 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: think so. Um. But from the from the viewpoint of psychology, 147 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: your conscious mind is what's what realizes that you are 148 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: missing your car keys, and all the ramifications of not 149 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: being able to find your car keys, like you're gonna 150 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: be late to work and this is gonna be a problem, 151 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: and where did you leave it last? And all that, 152 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: and your subconscious mind are all of the different mechanisms there. 153 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: It's governing all the different mechanisms, bringing them together so 154 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: that you can have these thoughts, worries and access memories, 155 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: most importantly, so that you can remember the last place 156 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: you put them. So what seems to you like a 157 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: sudden flash of insight like there's the car keys, that 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: that was a series of mechinations by the subconscious mind 159 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: that brought you to your conscious mind to that point. Well, 160 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: that's very pertinent here because psychiatrists think that the deep 161 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: relaxation and the relaxed state relaxed, that the relaxed state 162 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: that you get into it is um allows the psychiatrist 163 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: or the hypnotists to tap into that subconscious because of 164 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: the state that you're in, tap that subconscious, tap it. 165 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: There may be a little bit too that too, right, 166 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: there could be, but um, we should probably say, chuck 167 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: before we get into that that um, what the subconscious 168 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: mind is responsible for some of the big things, and 169 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: that that this is what right right, you've got the 170 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: sensation uh, bodily sensations, memories right, um. And with memories, 171 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: especially if you're getting in there and you're you're going 172 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: directly to the source where these things are stored, retrieved 173 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: and experienced, right, then you have a lot of responsibility 174 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: if this is actually real, um, by to to not 175 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: manipulate these the person in the state absolutely because apparently 176 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: you're dealing directly with the subconscious. So with the talking 177 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: about repressed memories, specifically, it's easy to create false memories inadvertently, 178 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: so you definitely have to be really careful. But yes, 179 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: you are right that there is some um evidence. There's 180 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: some scientific evidence that there's something going on here when 181 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: people are in a hypnotic state. Right. Well, yeah, the 182 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: conscious mind is the inhibitive component of your body, so 183 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: it's it's the one that's like putting on the brakes 184 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: for things, and the subconscious is the more impulsive and 185 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: imaginative one. So it makes sense that you see those 186 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: stupid hypnosis shows live on stage where adults are like 187 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: barking like dogs and walking around like chickens and stuff, 188 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: they're still there. I was in Vegas a couple of 189 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: weeks billboards. People love that stuff that, Um, I'm just 190 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: not one of them. But that does sort of make 191 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: sense that if they're tapping into into the subconscious and 192 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: leaving the conscious mind out of it, then that's why 193 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: they're uninhibited and feel free to do all those stupid things. Right, 194 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: So there's something to that in theory just by looking 195 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: at it, right, and there there is, um. I guess 196 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: people have slapped people into e G. Machines, given them 197 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: electro and cephalography scans, yeah, to see what's actually going 198 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: on the brain, right, and there is something like there's 199 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: no there's no change bodily aside from and Tom Harris 200 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: did a good job making this point. People are relaxed, right, 201 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: but that's actually from the suggested relaxation that's not from 202 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: the state of hypnosis itself. So like your heart rate 203 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: might slow down and stuff, but it's not because you're hypnotized. 204 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: It's just because your chill. Um. But with the with 205 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: the brain scancer, I can't remember what we were talking 206 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: about sleepwalking. I think you're talking about brain waves right, Um, yeah, 207 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: we were. And the low frequency waves associated with deep 208 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: sleep tend to show up more when you're in a 209 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: hypnotized state, and the higher frequency waves associated with being 210 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: fully awake and alert um slow down something. They don't disappear, 211 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: one doesn't take over and the other one goes away 212 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: like when you're actually in deep sleep. But there the 213 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: they're skewed differently than a normal person would have while 214 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: they're awake, and so they're there. Tom also points out 215 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: to that that's not like proof of anything, but it 216 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: is a nod to like, well, this is actually going on. Um. 217 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: The same with the study, the cerebral cortex and hypnotics 218 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: showed or hypnotics subject showed reduced activity in the left 219 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,479 Speaker 1: hemisphere and increased in the right. And the left hemisphere 220 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: is where the logical control center is and the right 221 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: is where like the imagination and creativity is. So that 222 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: kind of supports the idea as well. But again not 223 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: like hardproof, Chuck, how do you? Um, that's my problem 224 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: with us. There's no hard proof whatsoever. Um. How how 225 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: do you as far as against psychology psychiatry goes, and 226 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: this is in widespread use or vegas, how do you 227 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: hypnotize somebody? Well, there's some different ways, right do you 228 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: can do it? There's the old school way where you 229 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: like wave the watch in front of someone that you've 230 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: seen in the movie. Yes, that's called field gaze induction 231 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: or eye fixation, fixed case, fixed case. What I say 232 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: field gaze? That makes no sense. It hypnotized you to 233 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: say that wolf? What was that? Nothing? Uh? So that's 234 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: um idea there is that they're just getting you to 235 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: focus on something and tune everything out and then they 236 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: lull you to sleep with their tone. And that's sort 237 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: of the old school way, and they don't do it 238 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: much anymore because apparently it doesn't work that well, Yes, 239 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: because people are too smart. And what's the other one? Uh, 240 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: there's another one called rapid which I like this one. 241 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: It's like, Chuck, sleep Chuck, Chuck, you're hypnotized, Chuck, listen 242 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: to my voice, you're sleepy, Chuck, focus on me, Chuck, Chuck. What. Yeah, Well, 243 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: and that's what they do in the Vegas shows. And 244 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: they kind of prey on the fact that you're up 245 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: on stage, you're out of your element, and you're nervous, 246 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: and they supposedly that would make you more susceptible to 247 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: that kind of suggestion. Right, that's too then there. Well, 248 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: there's another one called progressive relaxation and imagery, where someone 249 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: might suggest that you're laying in a field. That's the 250 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: one that was used on me, or surrounded by bunnies. 251 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Where was this? I okay, I'll go ahead and just 252 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: tell the story. I went to a hypnotherapist about four 253 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: times before. I didn't go back and he, uh, this 254 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: guy would. It was in his house over there off 255 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Monroe and this dude's apartment and he was sort of 256 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: creepy and like the whole situation was a little unnerving, 257 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: and uh, but I did want, Like they say one 258 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: of the things that you have to believe that you 259 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: can be hypnotized in order to be hypnotized, Like you 260 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: can't go in there as a skeptic probably and like 261 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: cross your arms and say wave your watch. But um, 262 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: I believe that, you know you could do this because 263 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: my friend went through the cigarette hypnosis and it really 264 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: worked for him. So he had me look at a 265 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: this huge painting that was on his wall and just 266 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: like focus on that. And he had this like new 267 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: age in your music playing softly and the lights were dim. 268 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: That's a little creepy. And he lulled me with too 269 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: with his voice, you know, and all that. And I 270 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: went three times, and I guess I was looking for 271 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: a hypnosis experience where I didn't remember what happened and 272 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: I was like out of it. But from reading this, 273 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: it's not like you're out of it. You're just in 274 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: such a relaxated, relaxed, relaxated, relaxed state that you can 275 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: go there or something. And the only success that I 276 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: will say is for one of the sessions I got. 277 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: It's sort of like meditation. Have you ever meditated too much? 278 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: Going on, Yeah, well, you probably wouldn't be very good 279 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: with hypnosis. Plus I can't get into the lotus position 280 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: to save my mon. Well, you don't have to. Um. 281 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: It's sort of like meditation though, and that this one time, 282 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: I really really was lulled into this like super relaxed state, 283 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: and we talked about some stuff, and then afterwards I 284 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: came out of it and he was like, all right, 285 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: how do you feel. It's like, I feel really relaxed 286 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: and good. He said, how much time do you think 287 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: that took? I was like, I don't know, about fifteen minutes. 288 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: He went, look at your watch, it was an hour 289 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: and twenty minutes. Dude, right to check, right, No, he 290 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: just went through your talking. Uh so it's sort of worked, man, 291 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean I felt did you feel better? Well, yeah, 292 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: I didn't go back. I think I went back one 293 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: more time and they went, it's not for me. You 294 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: went back for that fourth pity visit exactly. But I 295 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: felt bad for the guy and then I just quit 296 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: like returning calls. Basically, he's like, please come over, but 297 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: I won't charge you. I haven't seen another person, and 298 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: so I know he kind of gave me that feeling 299 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I hope he didn't listen to the show, but um, 300 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: breaking me out, man, Like the passage of time definitely 301 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: weirded me out to where I was like I lost 302 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: an hour somehow. So you know, I was not saying 303 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I believe in it, but it was pretty real. Well you, 304 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: I guess we're probably yeah, debunk it. Well, the problem 305 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: is you You totally nailed the not just why hypnosis 306 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily real, but why psychology isn't necessarily real? Chuck, 307 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: have you heard of the Dodo Bird effect? No, Dodo 308 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Bird effect? It was there was a psycholog just in 309 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: I think the thirties and I can't remember his name, 310 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: but he figured out and it's it's been proven time 311 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: and time again that no matter what psychological orientation you're using, 312 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: whether it's um, Freudian psychoanalysis, UM or behavioral cognitive behavioralism, whatever, 313 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: as long as the patient believes that he or she 314 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: can be healed, believes in the therapist's abilities, and the 315 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: therapist believes in that orientation, there's going to be success. 316 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: It is powerful, but the mind of the patient is powerful. Right. 317 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: What is described by the Dodo Bird effect, and it's 318 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: based on some part of I think through the looking 319 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: glass or whatever, the Dodo bird decrease, everyone's a winner. 320 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: It's the placebo effect. That's what hypnosis says. It's a 321 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: placebo effect, but more specifically, it's a socially or cultural 322 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: bound placebo effect like voodoo. Remember when we talked about voodoo, 323 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: and it's there's a well we when we talked about zombies. 324 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't think we touched on it and voodoo. But 325 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: with zombies, it's like, if you live in a culture 326 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: that believes in zombieism and steps are taken to make 327 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: you think that you have been afflicted and and and 328 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: made into a zombie, you're going to act like a zombie. 329 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: Most likely. That's what hypnosis does in my opinion. Well, 330 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: and I sort of agree with that, But he also 331 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: makes a point to when I was reading this, I'm 332 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: glad he made the point in the end because the 333 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: whole time I was thinking like, yeah, but if the 334 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: end result is the same as hypnosis, isn't that the same? 335 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: Like it's kind of splitting hairs, And he makes that point, 336 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: what's the difference if the placebo cures your ills? Well, 337 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: the differences is like if you can tap into the 338 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: placebo effect. That's what optimal because you're letting the body 339 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: take over and take care of itself. The problem whom 340 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: is is when you write a check to somebody, okay 341 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: for something that you could have done yourself. Or there's 342 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: an entire field of study like psychology that entire other 343 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: fields of study like economics or well let's just go 344 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: with economics are based on the findings of and those 345 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: findings aren't right it's all placebo effect. Then you've got 346 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: a real problem. Yeah, I guess it's a solid point. 347 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: It is, so I think if we identify the placebo effect, 348 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: you have to identify it. But the problem is if 349 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: people know that it is a placebo effect, then it 350 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: kind of ruins its effectiveness. Usually well, because you gotta 351 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: believe in it going in. Yeah, for sure. One of 352 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: the ways they use it is um habit control treatment. 353 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: And that's what I was talking about. My buddy Johnny Pindell, 354 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: who quit smoking. What's your buddy's name, John Pendell? Johnell. Yeah, 355 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: he sounds like he should be wearing like a Jeane jacket, 356 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: might deaf Leppard and black like marker on the might 357 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: be and he might be as you met Johnny. He 358 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: was the guy in New York that's all guy in 359 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: the back of the van with us. Oh yeah, I 360 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: like that guy. I could totally see him in a 361 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: jean jacket with death leopard on the back. He U 362 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: he went through the cigarette program and a lot of 363 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: times it's like overeating or smoking and they'll basically what 364 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: they'll do is hypnotize you and reprogram your subconscious to 365 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: like you're you're gonna feel nauseous every time you smoke 366 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: a cigarette. And it, you know, with varying degrees of success. 367 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: It's worked on some people, including John I think he 368 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: smokes now, but that was years ago. Again, though, I mean, 369 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: did it really work. It worked for a little while. 370 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: If he didn't work because he believed it there It's 371 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: not just that though. I mean a lot of cancer 372 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: patients apparently undergo hypnosis to get through uh chemotherapy or 373 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: to try and heal right period, and a lot of 374 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: people swear by that. Um. Same with childbirth. UM. Then 375 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: there's somewhere you're getting in some areas where it's like no, no, 376 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: if this is a placebo effect phenomenon, like we shouldn't 377 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: be using this at all, Like for sick. Yeah for sure. Yeah, 378 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: because we talked about implanning false memories, there's a likelihood 379 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah. What they'll do in forensic is they'll 380 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: they'll get someone who has like a suppressed memory of 381 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: like an awful crime, and they'll hypnotize them to bring 382 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: out these like details of the crime scene. But that's 383 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: really controversial when it's used at all. Um there's also 384 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: um oh, isn't there another one, Chuck? Well, just regular 385 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: psychotherapy if you have like phobias or h fears, you know, 386 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: subconscious fears, which is much like the habit control hypnotic treatment, 387 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: except it's more usually more um guided towards things like 388 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: phobias rather than quitting smoking. Right, But it uses a 389 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of the same tricks, like rather than you'll be nauseous, 390 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: the next time you get afraid of flying, right, it 391 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: will be it would? It would? I guess kind of 392 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: instill in you self confidence or something like that, like 393 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: you are you don't need to be afraid of this 394 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: plane wreck. You'll it'll be over eventually. This is gonna 395 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: be a email generator. I think I think we'll get 396 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: both sides of the coin on this. A lot of 397 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: people are gonna say, no, dude, I was hypnotized and 398 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: it was real. Or I went and saw that Vega 399 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: show and you don't know anything. It was hysterical, right, 400 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: Or I think it's bunk and I'm I'm a skeptic. 401 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I think skeptics you're kind of wired that way. You're 402 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: either skeptic or you're more inclined to believe things. I changed. 403 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: I've done a complete one eighty. I was thinking the 404 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: other day how much how surprised I am and what 405 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: is skeptic I become? Did you at least I love 406 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: everything that like without thinking Like I I used to 407 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: think Genghis Khan killed like one point eight million people 408 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: in an hour. I thought it because it was awesome. 409 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: It was an awesome thing to think. And now today 410 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: I was reading it was actually today I was reading 411 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: this hypnosis article and I was like, this is bunk, 412 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: Like I can barely make it through this article. Yeah, 413 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: And and I realized, just like how much I've changed 414 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: in that respect. I think you get older and you 415 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: get a little more cynical and less prone to buy 416 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: an to stuff. Do you want to hear any more? Um, 417 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: there's there's like a whole slew of cultural cultural bound 418 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: culture bound mental illnesses that are like if you live 419 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: in a culture that accepts this as fact. There's one 420 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: that I just want to tell you one, but if 421 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: you're ever interested, you should go check out culture bound 422 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: mental illnesses. There's lots of sites that have lists and 423 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: descriptions of them. But there's one called CORO and it 424 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: afflicts Malaysians possibly Indians. There's like, there's large populations that 425 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: believe in this that under certain circumstances, like after you've 426 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: had sex with the prostitute or engage in masturbation, if 427 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: you're feeling particularly guilty about this, you may suffer from CORO. 428 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: And CORO is the belief that your genitalia male and 429 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: female are shrinking into your body. It can also happen 430 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: from eating unclean food or whatever. So the idea is 431 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: that if people really believe this, then it will happen, 432 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: or they just believe it's happening, and so that's what matters. 433 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: They believe it's happening, and that's what matters. This is 434 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: why it's classifies a mental illness because it doesn't actually happen, 435 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: but they'll take steps to prevent it from happening, like 436 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: putting hooks into their breasts to pull them back out, 437 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: tearing off their son's penises to keep them from keep 438 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: it from spreading. Yeah, so, but that's culturally bound. Like 439 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: if you did that in the US, everybody be like, 440 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: you're absolutely nuts. You do it there, it's like, oh yeah, koro, Yeah. 441 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: I think that's what hypnosis says. It gives you in 442 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: the United States. Carte blanc two act in ways that 443 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: you would be embarrassed by normally because you're hypnotized, So 444 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: the rest of us aren't judging you interesting. I don't 445 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: think that makes you skeptic. Thanks, thanks man, because I 446 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: started to hate that little rotten pardon me skeptic. So 447 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about hypnosis or find 448 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: out the fate of Chuck based on the fixed gaze 449 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: induction that he underwent, Yeah that time, you can type 450 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: in hypnosis h y ke and oh a I s 451 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: in the search bar how stuff works dot Com. It's 452 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: the plain old vanilla search bar and how stuff works 453 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: dot Com and um, I understand it's well, let's just 454 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: do the listen to mil thing or do we have 455 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: a plug fest thing? Now? Listen to mail this is 456 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: a special announcement time. This is a plug fest. It 457 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: is plug Fest uh in October. In mid October and Atlanta, Georgia. 458 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a couple of things going on. One 459 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: is an officially sanctioned trivia night at the Five Seasons 460 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: Brewery West Side. Can look it up on the internet. 461 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: It's gonna scene. Is it on Mary Et or how 462 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: All Mill? It's on Maryatt I believe, but look it up. 463 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: It's easy to find sorted near Georgia Tech. It's right 464 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: by where how A Mill and Marriot to come together, 465 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: I think at that point. Yeah, so they have a 466 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: cool scene there on the roof and it's gonna be awesome. 467 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna have our all star Trivia. We have got 468 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: some celebrity guests booked. We have Mr John Hodgman of 469 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: The Daily Show, author and actor John Hodgman. Yes, who 470 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: I am sure. I would say a hundred and forty 471 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: of our audience is a huge fan of Yeah, don't 472 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: call him the PC guy. I've actually had to stop 473 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: myself last two guys time. Actually, he's he's very cool 474 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: about that. He's very thankful for that job. So it's 475 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: not like he's like don't call me that. Yeah, I 476 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: don't ever want to discuss that again, right does that's 477 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: our Hodgman impression? It sounds nothing. We have the guy 478 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: who used to play um Bow Duke and the classic 479 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: seventies TV show The Dukes of Hazzard, Mr Joe Randazzo. 480 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: He's going to be joining us now. He is the 481 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: editor in chief of the Onions. Yes, he quit The 482 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: Dukes of Hazard. Gotta get work somewhere. America's finance a 483 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: new source. Joe was coming down from New York with John. 484 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: I wonder if they were going to ride down on 485 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: the same planet. Uh. And Dave willis local legend from 486 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Adult Swim on the Cartoon Network. Dave was a co 487 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: creator of Aquitine Hunger Force, squid Billy and the Awesome 488 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: squid Billy said he seen squid Billy, it's so great, 489 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: and uh, we land a day and we're like super 490 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: super psyched that he's going to be here for this. 491 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: So what we're saying is you can come to Five 492 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: Seasons Brewery in Atlanta no matter where you are on 493 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: October three, which is the Wednesday. It's a work night, 494 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: but just take the next day off trivia you will 495 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: be worth it to play us Hodgement, Randazzo, Willis and 496 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: possibly a couple of others in trivia for free. Just come, 497 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: you buy your own drinks or whatever. And apparently have 498 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: you seen the menu at this place? Oh it's good, awesome, 499 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: that's where I had the cow cheek cheeks are the taste. 500 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: He's part of any animal that I didn't care for 501 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: it really then it makes me stay and I've been 502 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: like it. We'll get you some sweet print sometimes. But 503 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: you can come and hang out with these guys and yeah, 504 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: they're all very approachable. Yeah, and we'll just play us 505 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: in trivia. See what you got, bring your books, your 506 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: John Hodgman books. He's got a couple of books out 507 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: that I'm sure you'd be happy to sign. Probably will 508 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: do that again. Uh, if you have an email about 509 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: our trivia event, yeah, we have the other it to 510 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: the non sanctioned event though. Oh yeah, go ahead. The 511 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: night before trivia Tuesday, October twelve, our buddies, the Henry 512 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Clay people are in town. Yeah, at just Drunken UNI. 513 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: Right by chance, they are in town. Uh, doing a 514 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: headlining show this time, which is awesome at the Drunken 515 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Unicorn on Constant Leon Avenue, and I imagine it'll be 516 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: sort of a late show. It's one of those kind 517 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: of clubs. But you're gonna be there, right Oh yeah, yeah, 518 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: Josh and Umi will be there, and Emily and I'll 519 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: be there, and Jerry. We're gonna make you come even 520 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: if you don't want to. And I think hopefully Joe 521 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: is going to be in town and go with us. 522 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: We'll see day before and we asked John if you 523 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: would be there too, so we'll see and um, yeah. 524 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with the Henry Clay people, they 525 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: had a song on Gossip Girls. Did you know that? 526 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah for them, camera what it's called. But 527 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: that's a big time make a little coin. Yeah, I'm 528 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: sure probably not. I'm sure they're They're label is just like, yeah, 529 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: here's some tires for your road trip. So that is 530 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: a non sanctioned, non official event, but we want to 531 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: encourage people come out to that show, hang out with us, 532 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: hang out with the band, give Jordan the keyboard player 533 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: or some Greek for having line disease. You picked it 534 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: up at Chuck's house from be a good time. We 535 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: want to pack it out for those guys. Uh, it 536 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: won't be hard junking Unicorn holds like fifty people. So yeah, 537 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: you're right. So again, Chuck said that was a non 538 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: sanctioned event. I guess marketing was all over and for 539 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: that one, just being you just c O A c 540 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: O A buddy. Thanks man. If you want to send 541 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: us an email about our Atlanta event, you got any 542 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: questions anything like that, you can um post it on Facebook, uh, Facebook, 543 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: dot com, slash stuff you should know. You could ask 544 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: me on Twitter as Gus. 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