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Speaker 1: Chanzas City. However, you won. I'm Mitch Holt's voice of

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Speaker 4: So do you remember Thomas Chapman. Yes, Thomas used to

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Speaker 4: He is incredible.

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Speaker 1: It is the most It is the trait of Patrick

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Speaker 2: this defensive line rotation.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I just think this defense is still on

436
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Speaker 4: the up and up, and I think it's deeper than

437
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Speaker 4: it was last year. And I think that might be

438
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Speaker 4: my number one takeaway here from the first week of

439
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Speaker 4: OTAs is just that our depth is very impressive and

440
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Speaker 4: it's a matter of going out there and continuing to

441
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Speaker 4: improve and get better and grow as a team. But

442
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Speaker 4: that's my initial takeaway, and I think that should be

443
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Speaker 4: something that gets people very excited that the depth of

444
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Speaker 4: this team, I think is better than a team last

445
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Speaker 4: year which won fifteen games in the regular season and

446
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Speaker 4: went to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned Williams and Bass. Every one of

448
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 1: these rookies is ahead of where I thought they would be.

449
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Speaker 1: And again, it reminds me of twenty twenty two. Don't

450
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Speaker 1: want to get ahead of ourselves, but these guys are

451
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Speaker 1: on the move in this rookie class. All right, let's

452
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Speaker 1: get to the matter at hand, and that is a

453
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 1: remarkable human being. Really in the interview, you're going to

454
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: hear this when you study what Christie has done in

455
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: his life to this point. There are very few humans

456
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: in our country that can have his LinkedIn page or

457
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: his resume and a very few in the National Football League.

458
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: I say it all the time publicly and privately. The

459
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Speaker 1: Chiefs have been able to consistently win seventy five percent

460
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Speaker 1: win percentage. I show this bar graph when I speak publicly. Now,

461
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Speaker 1: the winningest percentage of any team in professional sports, at

462
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Speaker 1: least MLB and the ANBA.

463
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Speaker 2: That's crazy. It is crazy.

464
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Speaker 1: But one of the reasons is the guy we're going

465
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Speaker 1: to talk about, and he's just fascinating to me. This

466
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Speaker 1: is one of those again, send it, Send the link

467
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Speaker 1: to your friend because they're going to want to listen

468
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Speaker 1: to this. You don't have to be a super nerd,

469
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Speaker 1: but this is a giant reason of why the Kansas

470
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs win consistently. Matt, I'm so excited about this

471
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Speaker 1: first time on defending the Kingdom, to get this extraordinary

472
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Speaker 1: human being with us. And it's Chris shay Our, Senior

473
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Speaker 1: vice president for football Operations and Strategy. Now, Chris, I'm

474
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Speaker 1: going to intro like this. If people want to look

475
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Speaker 1: up your LinkedIn page, it will crash their server. This

476
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Speaker 1: is only my thirty second year in the NFL. There's

477
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Speaker 1: no one like you. You've coached, you were a team manager.

478
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Speaker 1: You were an equipment manager on the original nineteen ninety

479
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Speaker 1: five Carolina Panthers, or assistant manager you've been, You're an attorney,

480
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: you were a corrections officer. Let's see what else. You've

481
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Speaker 1: worked with six five other teams other than the Panthers.

482
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Speaker 1: Now with us, you've been with the NFL Management Council

483
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Speaker 1: dealing with overtime, looking at reviews, and a salary cap

484
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Speaker 1: and now you do everything for us, including negotiation and

485
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Speaker 1: salary cap all of those amazing things. How much of

486
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Speaker 1: that leads to your success in what you're doing now

487
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Speaker 1: because it will blow the normal human away.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for that very flattering introduction. It's awesome to

489
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Speaker 3: be on with you guys. I'm glad we can we

490
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Speaker 3: can do this today. Yeah. I've been very fortunate to

491
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Speaker 3: build what has turned out to be from the ground

492
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Speaker 3: up well rounded perspective on what goes on in a

493
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Speaker 3: football organization. And you know, some of it wasn't necessarily

494
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Speaker 3: planned out from the beginning to to be the path

495
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Speaker 3: that I took. But now that I'm here, I've been

496
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Speaker 3: very fortunate to be able to, uh, you know, have

497
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Speaker 3: all those experiences with some really incredible people and really

498
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Speaker 3: great places. Uh, like you said, UH started off you know, well,

499
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Speaker 3: first of all, I started off as a really unathletic

500
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Speaker 3: high school football player in Massachusetts. Then became a student

501
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Speaker 3: manager at Boston College. Thought I wanted to pursue a

502
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Speaker 3: career in coaching. I coached high school ball. I coached

503
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Speaker 3: at Harvard, worked with great people there, some of whom

504
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Speaker 3: are in the NFL, or really many of whom are

505
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Speaker 3: in the NFL now or have been and had an

506
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Speaker 3: opportunity to get into NFELL scouting from you know, college

507
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Speaker 3: coaching and recruiting background, and I've weaved you know, for

508
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Speaker 3: the last twenties, geez, twenty five plus, I guess, twenty

509
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Speaker 3: seven years in and out of scouting, picking up a

510
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Speaker 3: lot of degree, learning about the salary cap, you know.

511
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Speaker 3: The whole time I've been in the NFL. The most

512
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Speaker 3: important thing that I've or the most fortunate thing that

513
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Speaker 3: has happened to me, is I've had great mentors, Hall

514
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Speaker 3: of Fame, super Bowl winning coaches. In college. I worked

515
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Speaker 3: for Tom Coughlin, you know. In the NFL, I've of

516
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: course coach Read, one of the greatest coaches of all time.

517
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Speaker 3: I've also worked for coach Parcels. So those are three

518
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Speaker 3: super Bowl winning coaches there, Coach Peterson in Philadelphia when

519
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: I was with the Eagles, but also Super Bowl winning

520
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: executives like Brett and Howie Roseman and Bill Pollian when

521
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Speaker 3: I was with the Panthers years and years ago. So

522
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Speaker 3: I've had excellent role models and great people to learn

523
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Speaker 3: from and being able to have spent time and everything

524
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Speaker 3: from equipment to coaching, to recruiting in college, to pro

525
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: scout in college, scouting, cap league teams, all these different things.

526
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: It allows me to have a really broad perspective. But

527
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Speaker 3: you know, I feel really blessed that I'm here and

528
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Speaker 3: I work for someone like Brett who allows me to

529
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Speaker 3: bring my opinions on a variety of fronts to bear

530
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Speaker 3: in helping provide him with information as he makes his decisions.

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Speaker 1: How to go as a corrections officer. I'm just curious.

532
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Speaker 3: That was incredible. So my freshman and sophomore years in

533
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: high school, I worked My summer job was I worked

534
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Speaker 3: as a corrections officer. So the full time folks were

535
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Speaker 3: taking vacation and they needed help in the summer, and

536
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: the pay was great. It was a little it was

537
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Speaker 3: a little riskier than normal summer jobs, but it was

538
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Speaker 3: a I'll put it this way, Nothing we do in

539
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Speaker 3: football is as stressful as that.

540
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Speaker 4: Well, I want to get back to football. You mentioned

541
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Speaker 4: Brett Beach. How'd you first meet Brett? Because I think

542
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Speaker 4: you knew Brett before your time with the Chiefs. And

543
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Speaker 4: also tell me about your working relationship today because you

544
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: guys worked together every single day.

545
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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, so you know Brett and I didn't overlap

546
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: at the Eagles before I joined the Chiefs. I was

547
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: at the Eagles for two seasons and Brett and Coach

548
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Speaker 3: Reid and the whole crew that had come over with

549
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 3: Coach Reid were already here. But we had a lot

550
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Speaker 3: of mutual friends who had connected us, and I hadn't

551
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Speaker 3: worked with him, but I had gotten to know him

552
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: immediately prior to coming here and had a lot of

553
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Speaker 3: respect for what our mutual friends thought of him. And

554
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Speaker 3: then I arrived in twenty seventeen and it just took

555
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Speaker 3: off from there. We've had a seamless working relationship since.

556
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Speaker 3: It's fortunately he's allowed me as I as I mentioned earlier,

557
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Speaker 3: to have an opinion across a broad array of top

558
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: but really it's about he as a general manager, knocks

559
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: down silos and lets all of his staff participate in

560
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: uh you know, the team building process, the meetings that

561
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: we have, uh and create open dialogue. Worked with uh,

562
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: you know, Brett and Brent Tillis for a long time.

563
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: The three of us were uh you know, uh obviously

564
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: negotiating and designing every contract that we've done here since

565
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 3: Brett has been the general manager. UH. And that continues

566
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: now that Brent has moved on, and we continue to

567
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: work with with other great people in the salary cap

568
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: side of things. Uh, Jack Walloff and Ryan Herman UH

569
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: work closely with Brett and I on all matters and

570
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: football administration. But really it comes down to Brett creates

571
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: a seamless relationship with all of his employees. I'm included

572
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: in that, and we have just ongoing dialogue on a

573
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Speaker 3: constant basis about you know, the day's immediate business, but

574
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Speaker 3: also long term planning and strategy.

575
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Speaker 4: One thing Mitch and I joke around about is we

576
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Speaker 4: imagine your relationship as if Brett just wants to do

577
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Speaker 4: stuff and he's like, Chris, find a way to make

578
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Speaker 4: this work. Like I think about like the Tyrone Matthew

579
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 4: contract years ago, and like the Jujus Schuster contract, Like, Hey, Chris,

580
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: I want to sign this guy.

581
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Speaker 2: Can we make this work? Does that kind of thing

582
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Speaker 2: happen often?

583
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Yes? Really, what we do? You know we have Brett

584
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: has great instincts as a team builder and general manager,

585
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 3: and you know the strategy and philosophy of team building

586
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: that he and Andy have coach read. You know, it's

587
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: been proven to win in the league for decades. And

588
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: Brett's eye for talent is outstanding. So when he has

589
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: somebody that he wants to add, obviously that's that's something

590
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: that I have faith in working out. But bigger picture,

591
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: Brett as a general manager, he may have players he

592
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: wants to add, but he's always looking at trying to

593
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: figure out how it fits into the bigger picture of

594
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: the larger puzzle of how to build a sustainably competitive

595
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl organization. So while he may be very excited

596
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: about signing a particular player, he does a good job

597
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: of taking a step back and seeing the big picture. So,

598
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, we have dialogue about those type of signings

599
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: all the time. But it's in no way is it

600
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: isn't me holding him back from doing things. It's just

601
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: we always talk about the the ramifications of decisions we

602
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: make and how it affects the planet.

603
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Speaker 1: Sure we blurred your background just because it's like a

604
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: beautiful mind the movie. There's all these algorithms behind you

605
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: that are your law review articles. But it's so exciting

606
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: for Matt and me to put you in front of

607
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom because you're such a vital part of

608
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: our winning and winning consistently. But I want to ask

609
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: you just about trades and put off trades, whether it's draft.

610
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Speaker 1: We've seen Brett be very aggressive on draft week throughout

611
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Speaker 1: the draft weekend, but then other trades and how those

612
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Speaker 1: work and how you can even pull them off.

613
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: Sure well, so, of course Brett has the ultimate authority

614
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Speaker 3: to decide whether or not we're trading a player or

615
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: a pick, but one of the key duties that he's

616
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Speaker 3: delegated to me is to analyze trades, the market for trades.

617
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Speaker 3: I work closely with Mark Richards, who oversees our player

618
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Speaker 3: personnel analytics, on analyzing historical trades for either players or

619
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Speaker 3: draft picks. We prepare that research to put Brett in

620
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Speaker 3: a position where when we're making decisions in a pressurized

621
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Speaker 3: environment like the draft we have an idea of wherever

622
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Speaker 3: we move in the draft before we get there. Wherever

623
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Speaker 3: we move, what it should take. Of course, it's fluid,

624
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: and we build, you know, various things like with computer

625
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: interfaces with our information technology department to allow us to

626
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: fluidly analyze trades as they happen, to update the history

627
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: of trades as they occur. But ultimately my role in

628
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: all trades is to tell Brett whether I think it's

629
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Speaker 3: fair for what we're trying to accomplish. Many trades, I'm

630
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Speaker 3: actually negotiating them with the other team, particularly in the draft,

631
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Speaker 3: but we have a great to get into draft day.

632
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Speaker 3: We have a great group of executives here at the

633
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: Chiefs that we're all working on trades together, and ultimately

634
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Speaker 3: I may be on the phone with a team, Brett

635
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: may be on the phone with a team. Also, Mike Bradway,

636
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Speaker 3: Tim Terry, Ryan Nutt from our front office, all of

637
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: us may be talking to teams. I have Mark Richards

638
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: and Ryan Herman with me during the draft to analyze

639
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: trades with me. All those all that information comes to

640
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: Brett through me, and ultimately I give him a thumbs

641
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: up thumbs down on what I think of the trade

642
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: and he has to make a decision. And sometimes he'll

643
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: make a decision that maybe makes sense based on what

644
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: the draft board looks like, but you know, historically we're

645
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: taking a little less value, or we're we're you know,

646
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: maybe moving around in a way that if your nitpicky

647
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: about draft points on some arbitrary chart, might not make sense.

648
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: But he has a great feel for merging the draft

649
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: board together with what the history of trades are and

650
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: we combine all that information really, really well, and it's

651
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Speaker 3: a testament to the whole group, not just me. And then,

652
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: of course we also have another key part of our

653
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: football administration group, Jack Walloff, in the draft room, who

654
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: executes the paperwork of the trades. So when Brett decides

655
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: he wants, you know, we'll be fielding calls for potentially,

656
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: you know, an hour before we pick. We're always on

657
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 3: the phone about exploring what would cost to go up

658
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: or go back in all directions with almost every pick

659
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: that we have, And when we finally pull the trigger,

660
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: Brett will give the thumbs up and we'll phone it

661
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: into the league. Usually I'm the one calling it into

662
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: the NFL, and the other team does it too, and

663
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: then boom, we picked the player and go from there.

664
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: With player trades, it's a little slower moving, but the

665
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: same process is basically in place where we haven't an

666
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: If we are ever involved in another player wanting to

667
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: acquire one of our players or vice versa, we inform

668
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: ourselves about what the history of trades looks like at

669
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: that position, that time of year, the type of and

670
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: also involving what type of contract that player has will

671
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: inform Brett. And sometimes Brett's talking to another general manager.

672
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm talking to my counterparts, you know. Sometimes when

673
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: Mike Borganzi was here, he'd be talking to a person

674
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: at a team. But we all come together and we

675
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: function as one unit, and it's ultimately uh breat you know,

676
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: driving the train, so to speak.

677
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: It's beyond fascinating.

678
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: It's awesome, that really is.

679
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: And including uh in your job description is the salary

680
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: cap obviously also very fascinating. I do this for a living.

681
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: I try to understand it. The salary cap is so confusing, though,

682
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: Can you explain how you begin to interpret the cap

683
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: and to manage it for our team?

684
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 3: Sure? Well, uh one, So you know, in really broad strokes,

685
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: the salary cap of course, is you know, a collectively

686
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: bargained restraint on what we can spend on players. But

687
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: really it's a revenue share too. It's the players get

688
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: a certain percentage of the pie and the owners retain

689
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 3: a certain percentage of the pie to spend on everything else.

690
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: But within the rules of how you can spend money. Uh,

691
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: it's it takes a lot of planning and having multiple

692
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: people like redundancy and just making sure that you're accounting

693
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: for every contract the right way. I don't mean to

694
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: suggest that, uh it isn't complicated, but it's not that

695
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: complicated if I can do so. So what basically what

696
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: we do is we have you know, we're always looking

697
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: at how contracts count against our uh cap uh and

698
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: also our cash budgets, you know, because we only have

699
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: a certain amount of cash that we can spend that

700
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: Clark provides us every year, and myself and the group

701
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: that works on football administration here uh led by Jack

702
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: Walloff who's a mastermind on understanding player markets, and you know,

703
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: keeping track of how everything counts against our cap. We

704
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: we make sure that we are maintaining for Brett and Clark, UH,

705
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: you know, a three year plan all the time on

706
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: how our cap looks this year in the following two,

707
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: so that we understand the ramifications of any contract that

708
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: we sign or any transaction that we enter into. Having

709
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: said that, though it once you've worked with it for

710
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: a while, understanding just how the rules work within the

711
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: spreadsheet becomes a little bit second nature. But there are

712
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts. It's really just a set

713
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: of accounting rules. And however, the big overarching theme that

714
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: we have here is that decisions about the roster should

715
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: be driven by football. Yeah, we have a limitation on

716
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: what we can spend on players and how we spend it,

717
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: but we try to make sure that the salary cap

718
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: isn't driving decisions so much as which players we like

719
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: to keep drive decisions.

720
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: It's been apparent now for thirteen years, how you guys

721
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: have been proactive with the cap instead of being reactive,

722
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: and we've seen teams go right down the tubes because

723
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: of it. My next question, Chris, deals with the third

724
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: part of a triangle that fans don't think about, and

725
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: that's dealing with agents. We know there's the league, we

726
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: know there's the teams, but then there's the agents. What

727
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: about the intricacies and the dynamics of that.

728
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: Well, you know, so, so I'm the principal contract negotiator here,

729
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: but Brett could be involved in talking to agents during

730
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: a negotiation. Jack Walloff, who I work with, maybe involved

731
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: in talking agents occasionally. Ryan Herman, who I work with,

732
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 3: is part of that group too. And you know, really

733
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: what it comes down to is this is a people

734
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: business and we're all going to do business over a

735
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: long period of time and have relationships that extend beyond

736
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: any one transaction or negotiation. So dealing with agents is

737
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: like in any other line of work, dealing with people

738
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: that you're going to have business dealings with on an

739
00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: ongoing basis, building mutual respect and treating people the way

740
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: you'd want to be treated as a core aspect of

741
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: how Brett and I go about the business here of

742
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: negotiating our contracts. We're not always going to agree with

743
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: the other party in a negotiation, but we try not

744
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: to be disagreeable or disrespectful. But you know, there can

745
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: be tough, stressful moments as we try to work out,

746
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, keeping our players here or signing outsiders who

747
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: haven't been here previously. But it all comes down to

748
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: people skills and trying to develop good relationships and develop

749
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: trust with the other party so that you can reach

750
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: win win agreements for everybody.

751
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: Do you ever get a break, Chris, Because when you're

752
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: a team like us that goes to the Super Bowl

753
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: hopefully every year, it's free agency in the draft right

754
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: after that, then we jump into camp and OTAs and

755
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: training camp and it all starts over again.

756
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: Do you ever get a break?

757
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, there's not a lot of work life balance in

758
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: this business, but that's what we've chosen, you know, God

759
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: bless all of our wives and family. But yeah, I

760
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: mean we do have some downtime, particularly between Mini camp

761
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: and the start of training camp. You know, we tend

762
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: to have time out of the office. Now that doesn't

763
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: mean necessarily that we have all of our business taken

764
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: care of, and we may have a contract negotiation that

765
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: pops up in that period. So we take the downtime

766
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: where we can get it. But I'd much rather have

767
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: the problem with us running deep into February each year

768
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 3: in the season, in the postseason and having to deal

769
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: with that problem of you know, having to quickly turn

770
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: the table into the off season, then having a lot

771
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: of free time in January and February, for sure.

772
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

773
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a first world problem. Yeah, question, Chris, And

774
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: you've been so kind with your time. I think you're

775
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: like Brett and coach and the you sleep half brain

776
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: at a time like a dolphin. And I think you

777
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: still coach your daughter's basketball team, or at least, But

778
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, we're setting here now, when

779
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: we post this, we'll be on the cusp of going

780
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: to Phase three of O. T A's and we're going

781
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: to morph into the mandatory mini camp and then into

782
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: that plant shutdown and the closest thing the NFL has

783
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: right now, what has to happen, in your opinion, with

784
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: you and your cohorts from now until the start of

785
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: training camp. That is top, top of mind, top priority.

786
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: Sure, well, so Brett, myself, all the front office. We're

787
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: evaluating the team on the field during these during the

788
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: voluntary off season program, so that that's a piece of

789
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: data that we're taking in just as we think about

790
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: the future. That's immediate. That's every day the players are

791
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: out here, you know, working out even now in as

792
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: we speak today. You know, we've been through Phase one.

793
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: Now we're finishing phase two and getting into phase three.

794
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 3: The from the football administration salary cap side of things,

795
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: you know, we have some ongoing contract and go with

796
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: players without getting into specifics, those include folks like the

797
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: unsigned rookie draft picks. We have a few of them signed,

798
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 3: we don't have all of them signed. So those negotiations,

799
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, all have different cadences and timetables, and there

800
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: are different things that are getting negotiated, different maybe hold

801
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: ups and timing with all those things. But from here

802
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: through training camp, getting those negotiations resolved, whether that's in

803
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: a new contract or or or not remains to be seen.

804
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: But all that business needs to be taken care of

805
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: before we get to Saint Joe or before certainly in

806
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: some instances even potentially we may be getting some of

807
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: the say, undrafted rookie content or I'm sorry, the drafted

808
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: rookie contracts done even sooner than that. From a from

809
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: a more of an operational perspective, getting past just evaluating

810
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: the team and contracts, this is a good time for

811
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: an after action analysis of free agency, the draft, the season.

812
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: What can we do better? Brett and the player personnel staff,

813
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: all of us are working on. How did we go

814
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: about doing our business last year, where can we improve

815
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: That applies not just to how we scout, but how

816
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: we take in and ingest the scouting information, information from analytics,

817
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: the cap to present to Brett so that we have

818
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: the best possible plan for free agency and the draft

819
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six. So there'll be some of that,

820
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's top of mind just getting what contract

821
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: business we have done while also planning for the future.

822
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Speaker 1: You have been so gracious with your time, and Matt

823
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: and I are so excited to present you to the Kingdom.

824
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: I always say publicly, we win for a hundred reasons

825
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: and you're a big part of that. So thanks for

826
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: coming here and having such an impact on a footprint

827
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: on the Kingdom.

828
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much for having me. You know,

829
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm just one of the several good guys that and

830
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: end gals that Brett has working for him, and I'm

831
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: also lucky enough to work with Coach Reid. So I

832
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: feel really blessed and fortunate to be a part of

833
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: the Kingdom and I'm glad to be on this podcast.

834
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: We're still going through your resume, but we're on page seven.

835
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: Just give us some time, so Thanks my friend, stay

836
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: on on it.

837
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Thanks Chris, Thank you very much.

838
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys.

839
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Speaker 1: Thanks Chris. Everybody I think now has an idea at

840
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: least a better idea of who Chris che is, what

841
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: he does, and why he helps us win. I think

842
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: he's fascinating. I think he's remarkable. I love it that

843
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: he's ours.

844
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: I think it's super cool.

845
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 4: I think it's so funny that he was talking about

846
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: the cap and he's like, well, once you get a

847
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 4: hang of it, it's not that complex. I'm like, Chris,

848
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 4: it's pretty complex, and it's a testament to your intelligence

849
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: and how incredible you are at your job that you

850
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: can navigate this, just like at second nature. He's amazing,

851
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: and you know they're like you always say, there are

852
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: so many reasons behind the Chiefs winning over the last

853
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: several years, and Brett Veach is one of the primary reasons.

854
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: But I think he would be the first to say

855
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 4: that he has amazing people around him that can help

856
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: him achieve what he wants to do. And Chris is

857
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 4: so good at keeping the long term vision in mind

858
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: but saying, hey, we want to add this player or

859
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: we want to go get this draft pick. Or make

860
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 4: this trade. How does it fit into what we do?

861
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: How does it fit into what we want to be

862
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: doing three years from now. And the reason the Chiefs

863
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: have been able to sustain success for so long, which

864
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: is the hardest thing to do in the NFL, is

865
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: because we are never saying it's all about twenty twenty five.

866
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: We're never saying that twenty twenty five we have a

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Speaker 4: chance to win a super Bowl, and we also have

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Speaker 4: a chance to win a super Bowl in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven, in twenty twenty eight because of

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Speaker 4: this crew and what they're doing and how they're always

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Speaker 4: thinking ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's remarkable, he's outstanding. And again send it down

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Speaker 1: the line because people need to know the assistant general

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Speaker 1: manager now has he've got a promotion of the case,

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Speaker 1: how many people do you I know in any endeavor was? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Equipment manager, equipment helper. He played, he coached,

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Speaker 1: he's a lawyer. He worked for the NFL in salary

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Speaker 1: cap compliance basically, and he's been in personnel, he's coached,

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Speaker 1: and now he's an assistant general manager role and I'm leaving,

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Speaker 1: like ten thoods.

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Speaker 2: Did you mention the corrections officer.

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Speaker 1: No, he's a corrections officer. Okay, just throw that one

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Speaker 1: in there if anybody in the league goes, oh, we

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Speaker 1: got that guy too, Hey, was he a corrections officer? Okay,

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Speaker 1: stand down, we have Chris Shay, he's ours. You can't

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Speaker 1: have it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: I think what's so impressive too is Coach Reid has

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Speaker 4: the same demeanor where they are so friendly and approachable,

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Speaker 4: but you respect them, you know. And I think his

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Speaker 4: background has lent itself to that kind of vibe around him,

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Speaker 4: where you know, this guy is brilliant and you want

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Speaker 4: to make sure you do right by him and don't

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Speaker 4: let him down. But at the same time, he is

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Speaker 4: a pro. He is friendly. He asked you how your

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Speaker 4: day is going. Very rarely do you find people like that,

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Speaker 4: And we have multiple people like that with that demeanor

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Speaker 4: in positions of power in this building. And I just

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Speaker 4: think it goes a long way in any field, but

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Speaker 4: especially here in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Why do we win consistently? Two of the one hundred

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Speaker 1: reasons OTAs and Chris Chey