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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we cut

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Speaker 1: to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're joined by one of my best friends. He's also

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Speaker 1: a Fox News political analyst, Jihanno Caldwell. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the spiraling crime crisis in Chicago, a city that's really

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Speaker 1: under siege from violence. We'll dive into President Trump's bold

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Speaker 1: proposal to send potentially send in the National Guard to

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Speaker 1: try to restore some order, and will debate what it

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Speaker 1: means for our communities and for the country. Plus I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Giano about his powerful new book, The Day

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Speaker 1: My Brother Was Murdered, where he shares his personal journey

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Speaker 1: through America's violent crime epidemic and about the night he

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Speaker 1: lost his little brother, Christian, who is murdered in Chicago. Plus,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Giano about his powerful new book, The

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Speaker 1: Day My Brother was Murdered, sharing his personal journey through

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Speaker 1: America's violent crime epidemic after losing his little brother, Christian,

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Speaker 1: who was murdered in Chicago. Now, the book tells the

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Speaker 1: story wories of other families around the country who also

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Speaker 1: lost loved ones, whose loved ones were murdered the same

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Speaker 1: night that he lost Christian. So we'll get to the

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Speaker 1: truth of all of this with my dear friend John Caldwell.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Gianna. It's great to have you on my friends.

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Speaker 1: Wish it was about a better topic than this, but

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you making the time.

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Speaker 2: To come on, my friend.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is always my pleasure to be on with you,

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Speaker 4: my very dear friend, And certainly this topic is something

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Speaker 4: that I think for a lot of people causes stress,

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Speaker 4: especially knowing the city that we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: But glad to dive into this.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's hard for a lot of

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Speaker 1: people to understand. I mean, you look at Chicago just

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Speaker 1: over Labor Day weekend, fifty four people shot seven fatally.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you don't live in a.

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Speaker 1: Major city like Chicago, or a city with as high

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Speaker 1: as a murder rate of Chicago, like, you really don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about, like.

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Speaker 1: What is it like to Obviously you're from Chicago, you

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Speaker 1: don't live there anymore, but what is it like for

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Speaker 1: the citizens of Chicago, you know, every weekend when you

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Speaker 1: look at numbers like that, fifty four people shot seven fatally.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I'm very much concerned with

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Speaker 4: my family who still lived there. You know, I've moved

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Speaker 4: the number of folks out of Chicago, but not everyone

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Speaker 3: And the fact of.

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Speaker 4: The matter is, the scary part of it is walking

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Speaker 4: They don't know if they're returning back home. The parents

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Speaker 4: don't know if they're returning back home or going to

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Speaker 4: the grocery store or something that a person that may

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Speaker 3: They may take a walk in their community.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're not doing anything that you would think

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Speaker 4: Just imagine all these people who were shot over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: These people have families. These folks have a lot of folks.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they care about them and that are concerned

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Speaker 3: Families have been impacted.

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Speaker 4: And I can almost assure you that out of these

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Speaker 4: fifty plus people that were shot over the weekend, this

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Speaker 3: Time that their families have experienced that. I can imagine

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Speaker 4: Bunch who had multiple people in their families shot in

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Speaker 4: So when Brandon Johnson or Governor JB. Pritzker say there's

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Speaker 3: And know them all to well.

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Speaker 4: They're lying to the citizens who have been demanding justice

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Speaker 3: To themselves if they actually believe that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I saw an interview with Pritzker recently, and

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Speaker 1: you know, like every major city has crime, but not

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Speaker 2: I guess, how do we get to this point where.

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Speaker 1: Like a politician, a governor like Pritzker is just not

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Speaker 3: May what it tends to be.

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Speaker 4: I think these and oftentimes you know this least I

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Speaker 4: know this too. The perpetrator and the victim are oftentimes black.

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Speaker 4: When you just look at the pure numbers, and this

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Speaker 4: is the same group of people who've yelled out black

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Speaker 4: lives matter, and they honestly don't give a damn. Black

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Speaker 4: lives don't matter to them. It's the black votes that

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Speaker 4: matter to them, and they've made that the focal point

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Speaker 4: for many of these conversations is about elections. How can

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Speaker 4: they win, how can they get more black folks to

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Speaker 4: support Democrats when democrats are creating the most damage to

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Speaker 4: the communities in which they say they care the most about.

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Speaker 4: You know, you look at the numbers in terms of

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Speaker 4: education in Chicago and across the state of Illinois as

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Speaker 4: an example, you have dozens of schools where not one

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Speaker 4: single student can read or write a grade level, can

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Speaker 4: do math at grade level. And that's that's a deficit,

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Speaker 4: not just for the people of those particular areas in

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Speaker 4: those in those cities Chicago and elsewhere in Illinois, but

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Speaker 4: the entire nation. Our treasurer is and our children more

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Speaker 4: more often than not, you want to build a generation

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Speaker 3: You know, our seniors our mothers, our grandmothers. Those are

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Speaker 4: But you also got to have that same kind of

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Speaker 3: And right now they're not even able to go get educated.

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Speaker 4: In schools because they are afraid of what may happen

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Speaker 3: This is a this is this is a national crisis,

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Speaker 2: And to the point about the numbers.

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Speaker 1: You know, Chicago had five hundred and seventy three murders

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Speaker 1: seven for New York City and two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: to two other, you know, major cities. You talked about

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Speaker 1: how you know, these politicians say things like black lives matter,

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Speaker 1: but then you know, allow so many black people to

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Speaker 1: why do they say black lives matter if they don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for politics, the rationale behind it.

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Speaker 4: I believe what the Democrats have taken up this banter

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Speaker 4: they want to stay in power. This is about power,

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Speaker 4: and it's always been. If you look at Illinois, they

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Speaker 4: the hell out of anything to retain power. And they

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Speaker 4: know that they've been losing a grip on the black community,

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Speaker 4: not just in Illinois but nationally.

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Speaker 3: So what do they do.

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Speaker 4: They jump on these bandwagons for them, it doesn't really

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Speaker 4: mean anything. It doesn't cost anything as popular as trendy

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Speaker 4: for them with no policy to support it. If black

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Speaker 4: lives really and truly matter, then you wouldn't eliminate cash

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Speaker 3: Be tougher on crime.

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Speaker 4: You would be much, much much tougher on crime, and

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Speaker 4: you would ensure that those individuals who are out here

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Speaker 4: that's not what they're willing to do. We see this

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Speaker 4: across the nation. They're willing to jump on the bandwagon

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Speaker 4: of illegal migrants that have come into our country. Who've

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Speaker 4: committed crimes who President Trump has said, no, you shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be here, you need to go home, and when it's

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Speaker 3: This is one of the one of the good ones.

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Speaker 3: You mean, the guy who raped.

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Speaker 4: A little girl, or the guy who murdered someone, or

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Speaker 4: the guy who came over and he.

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Speaker 3: Set selling fitnel to our people, which is killing.

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Speaker 4: Them in droves. These are the people you want to defend.

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Speaker 4: These are posted children that you want to you want

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Speaker 3: It's asinine.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a quick commercial break more with Gianno.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, you lost Christian, little brother, Christian

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Speaker 1: just eighteen years old. Obviously, there are seven families without

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Speaker 1: a loved one after the Labor Day weekend. How much

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Speaker 1: of this comes down to, like some of these politicians

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Speaker 1: like Pritzker obviously he's like incredibly rich, or even you

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Speaker 1: know Brandon Johnson, you know, you know how much of

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Speaker 1: this is because you know, like Brandon Johnson, I would

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Speaker 1: assume he's got security detail.

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Speaker 2: I'm not actually sure.

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Speaker 3: No he does. He does, yeah, he does.

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Speaker 1: So how much of this is because these politicians are

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Speaker 1: sort of like right, it's not their family member, it's

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Speaker 1: to that, Like you know, they can push these policies

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've largely seen that for many who are

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Speaker 4: saying to defund the police back in twenty twenty, but

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Speaker 3: We know that.

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Speaker 4: And certainly for people like Brandon Johnson or JB. Pritzker

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Speaker 4: with or without being governor.

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Speaker 3: They don't understand the realities that people everyday people, the

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Speaker 3: don't care. They're insulated. To your point, they're very much insulated.

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Speaker 3: So what do they do.

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Speaker 4: They push out policies that should be supportive of these

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Speaker 4: particular communities, but they are not. Brandon Johnson couldn't tell

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Speaker 4: Joe Scarborough or MSNBC the truth, which is five thousand

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Speaker 4: police would help the city of Chicago without a question.

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Speaker 4: So many people left after the defunded police movement. So

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Speaker 4: many people retired after they've seen the disrespect that was

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Speaker 4: being handed down by our elected officials and the handcuffing

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Speaker 3: So yes, many have left, leaving vacancies of thousands. So

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Speaker 3: five thousand police officers would make a tremendous difference in

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Speaker 3: the city.

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Speaker 4: Of Chicago, especially if they're not handcuffing the police. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: they can speak from their ivory towers. They can they

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Speaker 4: can make these commentary, make this commentary that everything gets

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Speaker 4: okay in these communities. Well, you don't live there and

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Speaker 4: you don't really know, and if you actually cared, you

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Speaker 4: would say, yes, send the we need President Trump's help.

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Speaker 3: Let's partner with him. Federal resources, let's do.

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Speaker 4: It, d O J atf DEA, FBI, let's get them

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Speaker 3: Let's work together and partner. It.

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Speaker 4: May not agree with him on everything, and I can

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Speaker 3: Brandon Johnson is the lowest approved mayor in Chicago history. JB.

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Speaker 4: But this is where they are right now, and this

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Speaker 3: Those black lives that they claim that mattered.

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Speaker 1: If you're enjoying the episode, please share on social media

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Speaker 1: or maybe send it to a friend. You had mentioned

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Speaker 1: I know in your book the day my brother was murdered,

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Speaker 1: How hard was it to write that book and obviously

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Speaker 4: It was it was in many many ways tough.

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Speaker 4: I live in Miami, Florida, right now, very peaceful, very safe.

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Speaker 4: A Chicago issue, although you know obviously you know it

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Speaker 3: It in DC.

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Speaker 1: The National Guard would be more limited going into Chicago

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: Well, over the weekend they were just having protests anti

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Speaker 3: But the thing is how do you prosecute them? Is

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Speaker 3: the question?

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Speaker 4: Are you prosecuting them through the DOJ or you prosecuting

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Speaker 4: them through the Cook County the Cook County Prosecutor's office.

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Speaker 3: Is the Safety Act going to.

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Speaker 4: Apply the elimination of cash bail where they can just

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Speaker 4: get put just recycled back onto the streets. Those are

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Speaker 4: I think questions that need to be answered, and the

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Speaker 4: to what we would be looking to see and I

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a little more difficult to work

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Speaker 4: on it, especially if you don't have the local partnership

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Speaker 4: from the governor and the mayor, because they refuse to

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Speaker 4: accept the help because they know that it would make

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Speaker 4: such a drastic difference that Trump would get the credit

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Speaker 4: for it, and people will say, well, Trump is right,

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Speaker 4: we need to invite this into our city.

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Speaker 3: Because Chicago is the postal trial for the worst, rand,

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Speaker 3: most corrupt, and criminal haven.

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Speaker 4: I think of any city in the country right now,

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Speaker 4: we've had the most politicians go to jail, governors, mayors,

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Speaker 4: any form of elected officials. We've had the most crime

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Speaker 4: of just about any major city that you can think of,

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Speaker 4: most murders. I believe this is about one hundred and

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Speaker 3: That's serious. That's pretty serious stuff.

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Speaker 4: So you know, if you're able to make a difference

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Speaker 4: in Chicago like you did in DC, then the Democrats

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Speaker 4: are put out of business.

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Speaker 1: You're thinking about running or really start entertaining the idea

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Speaker 1: of potentially running for Senate in Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Do you think a Republican can win.

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Speaker 4: My hope is that a Republican can win in Illinois,

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Speaker 4: and a Republican should win in Illinois. We know that

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Speaker 4: most voters are looking for results the Democrats haven't delivered

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Speaker 4: on that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to have a law and

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Speaker 3: order mid term election.

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Speaker 4: Durwn just decided that he's not going to run again,

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Speaker 4: which essentially makes it an open seat. I spoke at

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Speaker 4: Illinois Stay Fair for a Republican Day, and there, immediately

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Speaker 4: after I spoke is the keynote speaker, there was a

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Speaker 4: camera in my face asking if I was running for

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Speaker 4: US Senate, and that started a lot of the conversation

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Speaker 4: around the potentiality of me running. I've heard from folks

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Speaker 4: both nationally and locally on the grounds who are very

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Speaker 4: excited and interested in me running, and they believe that

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Speaker 4: I am the guy to do it.

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Speaker 3: Now. I am absolutely seriously exploring this.

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Speaker 4: As an option and an opportunity to serve my home state.

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Speaker 4: But if I don't run, I'm still going to be

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Speaker 4: very focused on insuring whoever does run as an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to win that race, whether that be me, you know,

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Speaker 4: just campaigning on ground, knocking on doors, making phone calls

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Speaker 4: for that person or speaking at their events. This is

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Speaker 4: a state that Republicans must win, and we must have

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Speaker 4: someone in that office that can work with this administration

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Speaker 4: because I believe that the Trump two point zero number

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Speaker 4: forty seven is the best administration that we've ever seen,

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Speaker 4: and they're willing to do things that I think Democrats

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Speaker 4: would love to have done. They would have loved to

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Speaker 4: have taken over DC. And you know, I guess I

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Speaker 4: should say the old Democratic Party, old Democratic Party would

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Speaker 4: have loved that made a difference on crime, because remember,

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Speaker 4: crime used to be an issue that every party was

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Speaker 4: concerned about, just like border security was one that everybody

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Speaker 4: was every party was concerned about. You see what Obama

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Speaker 4: said on it, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden. These used to

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Speaker 4: not be polarizing issues. Everybody agreed. We need safety, security,

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Speaker 4: we need our nation's sovereignty not to be viol need.

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Speaker 4: Those are things that we all agreed on. It was

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Speaker 4: just the abortion and maybe taxes was the biggest consideration

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Speaker 4: between two parties. But now we're so far apart on

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Speaker 4: these issues. Republicans are more in line with what the

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Speaker 4: citizens want, no matter what that issue might be.

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Speaker 3: Biological men and women's sports.

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Speaker 4: Republicans won't want that, but based on a polling, most

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Speaker 4: Americans don't want that, including a majority of Democrats don't

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Speaker 4: want that, and I believe about sixty percent.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of issues that I.

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Speaker 4: Think we can tackle, and we need representation in the

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Speaker 4: state of Illinois that can actually work with this administration

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Speaker 4: to get things done for the state, and right now

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Speaker 4: that doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Exist, you know, and I know that you're working on

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Speaker 1: all these issues too at the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety,

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Speaker 1: trying to push for policies that would reduce crime in

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Speaker 1: a lot of these places like Chicago and support people

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Speaker 1: who want to enforced the law.

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Speaker 4: And I would encourage people to go to call Well

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Speaker 4: Institute dot org support our efforts or call well Safety

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Speaker 4: dot org for our foundation, a call Oh Foundation for

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Speaker 4: Public Safety. And I can't thank you enough for hosting

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Speaker 4: our event in mar A Lago. You did a fantastic job,

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Speaker 4: and you know, the word is out. We want to

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Speaker 4: disrupt the violent crime and the crime crisis that has

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Speaker 4: been going on in our country and that for what

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Speaker 4: we do with the Callal Institute for Public Safety is

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Speaker 4: around the elected officials who held these offices, whether they

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Speaker 4: be progressive prosecutors funded by George Sores, or they're the

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Speaker 4: far left folks of the Democratic Party and narrow rolls

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Speaker 4: the gubernatorial roles, or honestly, the whole Democratic Party is

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Speaker 4: pretty far left at this particular point. So we wanted

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Speaker 4: to make an impact after my brother was murdered in

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Speaker 4: the city of Chicago, and this is my way of

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Speaker 4: paying his legacy forward. And I'm so honored to partner

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Speaker 4: with you go on this.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Well, Joanna Clubwell, you're one of my best friends.

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Speaker 2: You're basically a family.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: You're my family too.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you obviously, I've you know, seen were

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Speaker 1: new and and you know was there and saw the

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Speaker 1: pain that you went through and still are going through

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Speaker 1: with losing Christian. So I'm just I'm really proud of

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Speaker 1: you for taking something that uh, you know, most people

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Speaker 1: will never experience that kind of pain, uh, and turning

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Speaker 1: it into a motivating force to try to make sure

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Speaker 1: other people don't have to feel that kind of pain.

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Speaker 2: So proud to my friend. Thanks for making the time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Bessie. I'm always appreciative to join you on

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Speaker 4: your platform. Thank you for the opportunity that.

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Speaker 2: Was Jihano Caldwell.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate him for taking the time to come on the show.

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Speaker 1: Push you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but.

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Speaker 2: You can listen throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: I also want to thank my producer John Cassiope putting

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Speaker 1: a show together.

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Speaker 2: Until next time,