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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into a Wednesday Nation of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans A Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, glad to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Mark will be along after a little while. Drew will

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Speaker 1: also be here tonight. John Grenard will also be here

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Speaker 1: later tonight, and Whidrew. Of course, we've got to finish

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Speaker 1: part four of our Ultimate Draft. In the Labs Ultimate Draft,

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Speaker 1: we close up shop and mister Irrelevant is a New

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Speaker 1: York Jet Hall of Famer. Now you may not hear

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Speaker 1: all of it. You're gonna have to go get the podcast,

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Speaker 1: but we'll play snipp it for you tonight on the

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Speaker 1: show in our final segment. But we tonight, boy, do

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Speaker 1: we have a boatload of news that we've got to

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Speaker 1: dive into that I'm going to dive into. And it's

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Speaker 1: almost like ra just like one thing after the next.

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Speaker 1: It seemed to all hit about it like an hour,

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Speaker 1: hour and a half apart, seemingly so yesterday, we know

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Speaker 1: that franchise tags were doled out in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: there were a number of guys that got franchise tags

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Speaker 1: that I was like, I get a little doghead turned

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Speaker 1: like huh. I didn't think they were gonna do that,

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Speaker 1: and then they did. So there were a few that

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Speaker 1: were just like Alan Robinson. I did not see that

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Speaker 1: one coming, and it makes sense, It makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: So I can't say I was like shocked or surprised,

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Speaker 1: but I just thought, man, the Bears have got some

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Speaker 1: other things they've got going on. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I can see them putting a franchise tag down. And

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Speaker 1: it's about seventeen and a half eighteen million dollars. So

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Speaker 1: Alan Robinson was a little bit of surprise. So it

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Speaker 1: is the other Robinson, Cam Robinson. We've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk about the Jaguar offensive line, and I thought, man, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Jags potential getting offensive linement with that second pick

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Speaker 1: Ramsey traite. Okay, they get a tackle. Nope, they tagged

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson. The Buccaneers tag Chris Godwin the Washington football

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Speaker 1: team for the second year in a row. Brandon Sheriff

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Speaker 1: Lennard Williams got the tag in New York with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Moten, Justin tackle with the Pathers, Justin Simmons with

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Speaker 1: The Saints are sixty million dollars over the cap and

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Speaker 1: they put a franchise tag on Marcus Williams. Interesting, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be around eleven point two million dollars, so it's

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Speaker 1: not earth shattering from four a team than sixty million

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Speaker 1: Saints to do some things like get rid of Emmanuel Sanders.

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Speaker 1: He announced on his Instagram today, which I guess that's

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Speaker 1: what players are doing now that he has been released.

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Speaker 1: Now you notice and did not say the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: The Texans did not franchise a player. What we were

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Speaker 1: all looking at was Will Fuller. Will Fuller will be

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Speaker 1: on the market after a starcross wreck. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the right way of saying it. Look, will A really

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Speaker 1: bring him back, because I think from twenty sixteen through

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Speaker 1: So he will be out in the market now if

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Speaker 1: that just opens up a few more opportunities. Would imagine

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Speaker 1: we hit that. So then let's move forward to today,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with the announcement of the Texans coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Finally announced today. Now I say finally, and we've just

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Speaker 1: And then there are new names, but they've been out

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Speaker 1: I think back in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, somewhere in

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Speaker 1: he had been in Michigan. But a couple of names

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Speaker 1: now made official. Pep Hamilton will coach quarterbacks and he

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Speaker 1: Tim Kelly. I think we had talked about that a

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Speaker 1: it's a little smaller staff as I look at it now,

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Speaker 1: due time. But new defensive coordinator, Lovey Smith, same offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: I've been kind of out and about doing my thing,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line coach for your Houston Texans. Excited to

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Speaker 1: can do for David Culley. Now, David Culley will meet

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Speaker 1: and the Texans have found a role for Romeo Cornell.

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Speaker 1: The last bit of news is one that hits just

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Speaker 1: guys were Texans. We've got used to see them for

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Speaker 1: a long time. In fact, going into the twenty twenty year,

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Speaker 1: Now if the Arizona Cardinals and John Weekes released today,

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Speaker 1: Now that has not, I don't believe been made official,

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Speaker 1: reporting that that John Weeks long snapper is moving on,

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Speaker 1: And I tell a story all the time about Weeks.

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Speaker 1: No Weeks and I got to be pretty close, but

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Speaker 1: to move on the Texans. Uh, now we're looking for

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Speaker 1: the next how many ever weeks. Man, it's gonna be crazy.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, salary cap. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's become official, but it was reported that salary

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Speaker 1: where does that leave the Texans. Well, if you tack

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Speaker 1: it pertains to signing players, free agents, etc. So we'll

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Speaker 1: Monday of next week. So a lot of things going

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Speaker 1: I definitely I love the idea of it, to just

430
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 1: have my hand and dirt and go um and just

431
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: play ball, you know, playing on the other side of

432
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: the line of scrimages what I do best. So hopefully

433
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: we can get that done. John, A lot of people

434
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 1: know that I was really excited about you joining the Texans.

435
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: I mean you and I have met at the Senior

436
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: Bowl and I was really impressed. And in fact, right

437
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 1: before you were selected, Mark asked me who I thought

438
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: we should pick, and I said you, I called my shot.

439
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: So I you know, your success shots brought on me.

440
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm very happy about that. But one of the reasons

441
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: that I, you know, sort of fell in love with

442
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: your games. I saw this was thing on SEC network

443
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: and I think it was maybe John Stinchcomb or Matt

444
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: stinchcumb came and you guys talk pass rushing for about

445
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: eight to ten minutes, and as I listened to you,

446
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: I realized, Okay, this guy isn't just trying to run

447
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: around blocks, He's actually setting guys up. There's an art

448
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: to pass rush, there's a science to pass rush. Where

449
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 1: did that love for it really kind of evolve? And

450
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: how does your cerebral How does the cerebral part of

451
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: it kind of work for you as a pass rusher? Right?

452
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: Not many people know I didn't started playing defensive into

453
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: like my juniors see of high school, and I only

454
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: came in playing third down, so I kind of just

455
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: knew how to just run past people. And I knew

456
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: one move was a side swipe, and and that's kind

457
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: of where that took off. Ra my D line coach,

458
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: Coach Holberg's back and how I'm Georgia. Um, he pretty

459
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: much taught me the entire game about D line. I mean,

460
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: I never knew anything about, you know, setting an edge,

461
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, reached blocks, I knew it. I never knew

462
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: anything about I played running back and linebacker all my life,

463
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: so that's kind of I stayed off the ball or

464
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: in the backfields running the ball in my life. So

465
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: um a transform and going to h to University of Louisville,

466
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: and now I'm playing outside linebacker, you know, and I'm

467
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: standing up now. I have to learn a whole new

468
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: way to play play defensive and this is a different form.

469
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: Now I'm standing up now, I have to be able

470
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: to drop and courage and do this and that. So

471
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: it was all just learning. But the thing I liked

472
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: about the most is that, you know, these are guys

473
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: who played There's so many great guys who played at

474
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: this position. Um, And and those guys are technicians, the fundamentalists.

475
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: And that's the part that I liked about it because

476
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: a lot of guys at defensive end period aren't the

477
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: most athletic guys. And that's like myself. I mean, I'm

478
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: not saying I'm not athletic, but just keeping it we're not.

479
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a Miles Garrett walking out there that's gonna

480
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 1: give you a fifty YenS vertical and stuff like that.

481
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: You know, it takes science and everybody has their own

482
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: their own way about pass rush. I mean, they have

483
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: their niches in the in the game that they know

484
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: that they can attack. Somebody didn't know what they're really

485
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: good at. And that's what I had to learn this

486
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: year was what am I really good at? What am

487
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: I what can I excel at this? And then I

488
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: could build from there. So once I broke it down

489
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: and made it not so much physical and like you said,

490
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: make it more of a craft and mental and really

491
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: honing on your craft, that's when I really started to

492
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: see the results and feel that, Okay, now I'm excelling

493
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: and and I'll evinsually gets I want to be. I

494
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: have a long way to go, but definitely I like

495
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: where I'm where I'm starting. Jonathan, we know you haven't

496
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: had too much interaction with a coach color yet it's

497
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: so early in the off season, but what are your

498
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: early impressions of that they head coach. Yeah, I seem

499
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: like I said, I met with them last week. Um

500
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: during the workout. Um, he came and met with a

501
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: couple of guys and it just showing his face. I

502
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: believe he just got his workout done not too long

503
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: before that. So, Um, he stays in safe. You know,

504
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: he looks like an upbeat guy. Um. Definitely well respected

505
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: around the league. And I know a lot of people

506
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: even my agency. Um, you know teammates in the past,

507
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: you have been with him, they say, you're gonna love him.

508
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. He's a guy that's gonna basically

509
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: there for the players, and he wants to win. And

510
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: that's I think that's what we all don't want to forget,

511
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: is that ultimate at the end of the day. We

512
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: can have fun and and and build culture and stuff

513
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: like that, but we also want to win. So UM,

514
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: when we when it breaks down to that point and

515
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: when the camps gets there and we see how things

516
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: are rocking, when pressure gets to it, I'll be ready

517
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: to see it. I'm ready for it. John, you mentioned

518
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: a little while ago. You've been working with Mike you Banks,

519
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: and I know when you're asking player, we ask players.

520
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: It's a lot of times and you ask me what

521
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: they're working on. They're like, well, everything, And that's true,

522
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: you are working out of everything. But is there a

523
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: particular focus this offseason heading into twenty twenty one, now

524
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: that you got all the rookie stuff behind you, you

525
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: just focused on being a football player, not a tester.

526
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that you want to work

527
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: on and get ready for this next year? Yeah? And

528
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: I made it two things really. One is my flexibility. Um,

529
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: not just you know, just your regular stretching, your hamshot

530
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but just a lot of you know,

531
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: ankle mobility, UM, lot of knee flexibility. A lot of

532
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: people don't know about that, you know, acts like toes.

533
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: People don't understand how how much a big toe matters

534
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: in the game. Um. Just no matter how you load,

535
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: all the things that you know are key, um, key

536
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: features in this game that you have to have, um

537
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: are the small things and work us they have to do,

538
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: not just so much you know going in there and

539
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: squatting a million pounds or benching a million pounds and

540
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: all that. It's it's a little small thing. So I

541
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: would say stretching in um single single leg explosion. Um,

542
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: it's helpful a lot in this game, just because you

543
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: know these games is changing running backs that are joking

544
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: with their knees on the ground. He got Lamar his

545
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: knees pretty much on the ground, juke and stuff like that.

546
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: So you know, things like that you have to be

547
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: ready for. And I think that they do a really

548
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: good job there to hone in on those details because

549
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: they know that in this game you have to be

550
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: more flexible, more fleas we are, and the more accessible

551
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: we are, and longer you play in this game. See,

552
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: I learned something new every day. The big toe is

553
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: an important thing, and Johnny, you never told me that.

554
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: So I'm really upset about, you know, your lack of

555
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: big toe knowledge. Five to forty. I mean my big

556
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: till it didn't matter, big tie was gonna make me

557
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: any faster. Mark, I can promise you that. Boy trying

558
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: to get how do you what do you do to

559
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: tune out the noise or whatever? How do you react

560
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: to it? How do you stay away from it and

561
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: keep focused on what you need to do? The noise

562
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: outside the team, media, fans, whatever it might be, right,

563
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean people, if people know me, I'm a homebody.

564
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to sit sit at the house, you know,

565
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: if if I don't have it, if I don't have

566
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: anything to do, that's my vacation. You know. People want

567
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: to say, why don't you go out of here. Look,

568
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: I don't have any obligations here right now, so this

569
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: is my vacation. I can sit at the house and

570
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: watch TV, you know, going to take a jog, walking

571
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: my dog and stuff like that. But I don't have

572
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: to be out much places in order for me to

573
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: enjoy my time. So I'm a homebody and I'll sit

574
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: here all day if I have to. Okay, we talk

575
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: a lot of football with the guys, there's no doubt,

576
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: but we always kind of dive in a little bit.

577
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: And there's always a famous response to the two questions

578
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm about to ask that we got um from somebody,

579
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: and we always joke about it when Hey, when you're

580
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: getting ready for a game, who are you listening to?

581
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: What are you listening to? And B or two I

582
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: can't remember how I started that. Give us an old

583
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: school flavor that you like too, all right, so before

584
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: the game is kind of weird. My my my process

585
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: is a little bit different. I try to UM as

586
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: soon as I get there. Obviously we're you know, you're

587
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: getting undressed from your your outdoor clothes and getting getting

588
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: transformed into your your your your warm up game. And

589
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: I guess I'll put a lot more upbeat music right

590
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: there to kind of get me in the zone to

591
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: walk out, you know, going a ton of going warm

592
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: up for pregame. And then when I get out there,

593
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: surprisingly I listen to a lot of slow music because

594
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, the slower music kind of like I don't

595
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: want to get too high before the game because then

596
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: the digitas get there and then you you kind of

597
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: two am. You start sweating and you need I being

598
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: this and that. You don't want to be worked out

599
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: before the game even starts. So yeah, I turned a

600
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: little slow music on UM. And then of course when

601
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I want to put the paths on and go back

602
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: out before the main actual uh finale of the game,

603
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: I turned on a lot upbeat music than I really

604
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: get in my zone. UM. But to the second part,

605
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: the slow me that I am listening to is it's

606
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: usually a combination it's most times either gospel or I

607
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: like some Mint Condition a little bit so Mint Condition

608
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: back then it's my mom. She's a huge Man Condition fan.

609
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: So um Breaking My Heart was one of the first

610
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: songs that I ever heard from them, and literally I

611
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: play that thing there every time I before I step

612
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: on the field, just stock and just relax, kind of

613
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: getting a groovy feel in a sense too, because it's

614
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: really just about challenging challenge, channeling your inner your inner

615
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: rage to get going, you know, kind of just kind

616
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: of taming it at the same time while also like, Okay,

617
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, and that just gives me my zone.

618
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those weird things that I've been

619
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: doing for a while. I love music, I love to sing,

620
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: love to do all those things, so it is one

621
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: of those that I like to keeping in the back

622
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: of my head and it keeps me hummdun. All right,

623
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: one more for you, What advice would you have for

624
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: the pre draft athlete this year? Because we're still living

625
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: through the pandamic and everything, and you just went through

626
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: it a year ago and we said you had to combine,

627
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: but obviously now things are different and we're gonna have

628
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: some new Texans come draft time. So what advice do

629
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: you have for the pre draft college athlete? Honestly, don't

630
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: don't don't get too high and don't get too low. Um.

631
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: This this opportunity is opportunity that you know not many

632
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: are able to see. Um. But but the main thing

633
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: I want them to understand is this is just a

634
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: ticket just to get your foot in the door. This

635
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: is not anything after this point. It's not guaranteed when

636
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: you get here. They don't matter if your first, second,

637
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: third round, or undrafted at all. Um, you're gonna have

638
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: to work just like the guy next to you have to.

639
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: You have to literally beat the next guy here with you.

640
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: So it's a fun time. Enjoyed it. It's gonna be

641
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of dreams coming true. It was definitely one

642
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: for me to get drafted. Um, but definitely in My

643
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Speaker 1: girlfriend always says it too. It's kind of like my

644
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Speaker 1: mom as well. It's when I got drafted, I was

645
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Speaker 1: so excited, but that next day coming I was just

646
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Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, what's next because it's kind of like, Um,

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Speaker 1: that was cool for me, But this I'm always looking

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Speaker 1: forward because that's how this game is. So you have

649
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Speaker 1: to always be thinking ahead of the next person. You

650
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Speaker 1: always gotta just be just eternal thinkers because it's this

651
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Speaker 1: game is about evolving and making sure you're taking making

652
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Speaker 1: sure you're a step ahead of the next person. So definitely,

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Speaker 1: don't get too high, don't get too low, and anything

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Speaker 1: that y'all get hit in one hundred and ten percent

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Speaker 1: and hit the ground running because it's gonna be nothing

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Speaker 1: but work, nothing but work well. Jonathan, thank you so much,

657
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Speaker 1: respecting some time with us today. We look forward to

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Speaker 1: catch it up soon. All right, Thank you, Mark, Thank

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Speaker 1: you John for having me well, it's our pleasure. John,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining. That was really good stuff. Also

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Speaker 1: good stuff. The end the lab Ultimate Draft comes to

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Speaker 1: Episode four, last episode. Who is mister Irrelevant? Well you

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Speaker 1: And Drew and I will come to your house cook

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Speaker 1: a barbecue for you. Well, I mean we would That

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Speaker 1: gets kind of expensive and I don't know that we

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Speaker 1: could do that, but we would like to. Either way,

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Part four. Drew's got the first pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm picking first today you are, and I'm gonna stay local.

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Speaker 1: You already took J. J. Watt smartly from the Texans.

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Speaker 1: That was a great choice I did. I'm going with Dre.

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson is my choice. He's my Texan. I don't

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Speaker 1: need to explain to anyone on here, but he's paring

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Speaker 1: up nicely with my other wide receiver. I only have

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00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: one other wide receiver right now, that's Calvin Johnson. So

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00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: good luck defending those two, especially with all the weapons

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Speaker 1: that are gonna be around Andre Johnson in the offensive

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00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: line that's gonna be blocking for the running backs. Playing

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Speaker 1: with Andre Johnson, I haven't feeling Andre Johnson. He was

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Speaker 1: a guy who got butt naked wide open and time

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Speaker 1: and time and time again. He's gonna do that with

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Speaker 1: this team too. I like I like the way you

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Speaker 1: put that. I'm a little a little graphic for some

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00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: out there, but I like the way you put that.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that, and I am going

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Speaker 1: to seemingly follow you up Drew with the theme of

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Speaker 1: Houston Oh, because I'm drafting Houstonian. Okay, Well, he played

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Speaker 1: his college ball in the city of Houston. Now when

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Speaker 1: people hear that, they immediately think, oh, University of Houston.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, you're beefing up your pass rush s. You

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Speaker 1: stands for Texas Southern, and I need a New York Giant,

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Speaker 1: and I as great as a Giant franchise has been

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Speaker 1: in there a lot of different ways. You could have

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Speaker 1: gone here, but second pick, and I gave some consideration

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Speaker 1: to Harry Carson, even though I liked my three linebackers.

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Speaker 1: The Carson was a little bit of a thumper. You

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Speaker 1: ended up making the Hall of Fame. Eventually thought about

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Speaker 1: Emlett Tannelle, who was one of the great corner returners.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, man, the longevity, the greatness of Michael

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Speaker 1: Strahand was too much to pass up. So my first

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Speaker 1: pick in the fourth round, fourth day is going to

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Speaker 1: be from Texas Southern University Giant, great Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: Michael Strahand. Okay, it's tough to argue about that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's so. Now I've got on my defensive line. My

725
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: outside guys are Strayhand, Smith Von Miller at outside linebacker

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Speaker 1: how I want to use him, and then JJ Watt

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Speaker 1: depending on how I want to use him. Aaron Donald

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00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: is inside with Cortez Kennedy. I feel like I got sized,

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Speaker 1: I got speed, I got explosiveness again versutility. I feel

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Speaker 1: good about my defensive line. I feel strong about that group.

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Speaker 1: But lots of stuff you can do, that's for sure,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think I've done yet. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. You know, we were talking about the Bengals earlier,

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00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take my Bengal and I gotta admit

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Speaker 1: I had to look. I'd look deep into the Bengals

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Speaker 1: history because I think of the Bengals, I think of Monos,

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Speaker 1: I think of you know, Ken Anderson, Boomer Sison, good quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: not the guys I want Andy Dalton too, not the

739
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: guys I want leading my team. Icky Woods loved him.

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00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: He had a great year in eighty eight. But the

741
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Speaker 1: shuffle not gonna go there. Defensively, you know they have,

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Speaker 1: They've had some really solid guys who have been Pro Bowlers,

743
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: all Pros over the last decade or two. I was tempted.

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Speaker 1: I just said no, but I'm gonna go to the secondary.

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Speaker 1: The guy who's fifth or fourth on the all time

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Speaker 1: interceptions career NFL, not Beingles career interceptions list. He played

747
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: a long time late sixties through the early eighties. He

748
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: was a corner. He could be my six guy coming

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Speaker 1: off the bench, helping out guarding your Jerry Rice, Randy

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Speaker 1: Moss combo, We'll go with Ken Riley. Yeah, he's my

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Speaker 1: corner so low. Yeah, he's a rattler from Florida A

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Speaker 1: and M. I love it. It's great. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to give me some more or give

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Speaker 1: the folks out there, I'm more of a background. But

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Speaker 1: he has sixty five career picks. That's pretty good. But

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Speaker 1: if you know anything else. One of the things, one

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Speaker 1: of the things about the the NFL that was that

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: was interesting and really helped the growth of the NFL

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Speaker 1: was the rise of drafting HBCU players historically block college universities,

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Speaker 1: and that was a big, big thing in the AFL.

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Speaker 1: That was massive in the AFL. To start, it was

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. They did a number of Steelers did that.

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Speaker 1: They had a Scott actually he's going to the Hall

764
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Speaker 1: of Fame this year, guy by the name of Bill Nunn.

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Speaker 1: They went out and found the guy at Alabama A

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Speaker 1: and M named John Stalworth. They found players at those

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Speaker 1: universities and one of the better h vcus in that

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Speaker 1: time was Florida A and M. And Ken Riley played

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Speaker 1: for at Flourida A and M. Was a tremendous player

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Speaker 1: for them for a long time. Went to the Bengals,

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00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: had a tremendous career with the Bengals. I think he

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Speaker 1: played the entire career with the Bengals. And he was

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Speaker 1: he was kind of Nambi awsomewa before Nambi awesom wha

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Speaker 1: that he was that kind of He was that kind

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00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: of player. He was a really good player. Um, I

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00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: have a connection to Florida A and M. Um. That's

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00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: probably my favorite because my quarterback who I I was

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00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: very close with. Um. He went and played for Florida

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Speaker 1: A and M. And his dad was at Florida A

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Speaker 1: and M just after Ken Riley and won the first

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Speaker 1: ever national championship at Florida A and M when he

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Speaker 1: was a quarterback. So M, Albert Chester and Albert Chester

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Speaker 1: the second those two are are very close to me.

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Speaker 1: And so FOURDA A and M. I you know, whenever

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00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: and and plus the marching rather one hundred and that

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00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: green and orange. It is kind of a unique combination.

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Speaker 1: But when you see it, you're like, yeah, so I

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00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: love and he mentioned a Florida A and M that

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Speaker 1: we can have on the show. It's kind of yeah,

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00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: and he, like I said, he's not a household name,

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00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: but I feel perfectly fine. Look at him, what his

792
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: body working. Absolutely yeah, he's He's one of the most

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00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: valuable players in Bengals franchise history when it comes like

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00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: the that's basically the Pro Football Reference definition of war

795
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: as Baseball's war. It's say eighty he's up there. Anyways,

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00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: your turn, you're picking, and you know what he is, Drew,

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00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: you know what he is. I picked Larry Wilson the Cardinals,

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00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: and people are gonna hear Larry Wilson like, whoa wait

799
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: a second number. Yeah, he's one of the greats of

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00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: all time. But you're a lot of people won't know

801
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: him just because he played at that in that period.

802
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: Ken Riley's that's that play, Ken Riley is. That is

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00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: your Larry Wilson basically a great player, and not a

804
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: lot of people know about. Now I'm going to a

805
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: great player. I think a lot of people do know.

806
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I got a bolster, my corner position and my two

807
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: safeties that feel very very good about, and that's Larry

808
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Wilson at Reid. With my corner, I only have Darryl

809
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Green which by the way, there's a Peyton Places episode

810
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: the other day that had Daryl Green in it because

811
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: they were talking about speed. It was really really good

812
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: and it got me feeling even better about my pick

813
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: at Darryl Green. But I got a bolster that position,

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00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: So I'm going to the Steelers, and man, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to go, yes, and at

816
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: that position, dude, And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, But

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00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I went with Rod Woodson. Yeah, because with Woodson I

818
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: get a little bit of return skills as well, So

819
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: I get that covered now. I feel like, yeah, he

820
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: could play a lot of different places. He could play safety. Well,

821
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Speaker 1: he's with the Steelers. Play corner. He was one of

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00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: the best corners that ever lived, and then he transitioned

823
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: to safety, and he kind of was one of the

824
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: first to start that corner to safety transition and being successful.

825
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: But at corner he was unbelievable. And at Purdue when

826
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: he was in college, he actually played both ways. So

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Speaker 1: I love guys that can do that. And I went

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Speaker 1: with Woodson over mel Blunt, even though mel Blunt changed

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00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: the game and didn't even really know it. Mel blow

830
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: was the side of the linebacker played corner. I just

831
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: felt like I get a little bit of extra, as

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Speaker 1: Mark likes to say, and yap with Woodson because he

833
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: does have the return game in addition, So I'm going

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Speaker 1: Rod Woodson two star opposite Derric Green, Soup to night Stars,

835
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: line yap, that's uh, that's my bad, Mark vandermer impersonation. Okay,

836
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, line yap and Soup to nats are two

837
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: were like phrases he always brings up and I'm like,

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00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: what's that mean? And Last House of the Left. I've

839
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Speaker 1: never been Last House of the Left. I've never heard that,

840
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: but I get it now and it makes a lot

841
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: of sense. He says it about like three times a year,

842
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: and I'm always anyways, okay, uh that that'll be a

843
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: podcast for another time. Okay, I don't have I don't

844
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: have a player from Washington. Oh, I want to get

845
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: a hog Do I want to get one of those

846
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: guys from you know, the Super Bowl run three time

847
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: super Bowl champs in the eighties early nineties. No, I'm

848
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: gonna go with an absolute legend, legend of the game.

849
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: They've got an award named after him. He was a

850
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: movie star. He played. This is kind of like He's

851
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: basically the Golden boy. You're golden boy Paul Horning before

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Speaker 1: Paul Horning, and he was even more of a star

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Speaker 1: slinging Sammy Bah from well in Texas, out in West Texas.

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Speaker 1: So he won, you know, passing titles he won as

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Speaker 1: a rookie. He won the passing title end an NFL

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Speaker 1: championship with Washington in nineteen forty three. Though he led

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Speaker 1: the league in passing yards interceptions because he played safety,

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Speaker 1: he played both ways and punting. So I've got my

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Speaker 1: punter here and if my quarterback home, I'm gonna pick

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Speaker 1: a little bit later, if he ever gets in trouble,

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Speaker 1: ever gets uh injured, Sammy's gonna bring us home. Sammy's

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Speaker 1: gonna play quarterback, but at the very least he's gonna punt.

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Speaker 1: He can maybe fill ins as a defensive back. Sammy

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Speaker 1: Ball is my Washington pick, and he goes at twenty

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Speaker 1: seventh for me, That, my friends, is a very very

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Speaker 1: that's a great pick. Just the versatility that he brings.

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Speaker 1: And the one key you mentioned was Sammy Ball was

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Speaker 1: one heck. I mean, he's known for his pinpoint passing.

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Speaker 1: The old story goes coach told him to hit a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in the eye and he said which eye?

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Speaker 1: I mean he was? He was tremendous. He was tremendous,

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Speaker 1: but he was one heck of a defensive back, I

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Speaker 1: mean incredible defensive back. All right, And I'm staying with

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Speaker 1: a defensive back theme because I need a raider. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's right. I went with a raider on day four

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Speaker 1: who wasn't well. You have to go check out the

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Speaker 1: podcast because that's gonna do it for tonight's show. Big

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Speaker 1: thanks to Mark, to Drew and of course star good

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Speaker 1: friend John Grenard. Looking forward to a big year two

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Speaker 1: from JAG number fifty two. Appreciate him for stopping by,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys for listening. We'll see you Tom row everybody,

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Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans.