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Speaker 2: a banner week for the NBA. They rolled out a
Speaker 2: bucket of puke, which was the All Star weekend.
Speaker 3: They've since played one.
Speaker 2: Game, that was the Lakers and the Whole Hornets, in
Speaker 2: which the Lakers lost and Luca played terrible. But don't worry,
Speaker 2: because we do have more NBA news. Bobby Portis has
Speaker 2: pissed hot. He has tested positive for traumadol. I've heard
Speaker 2: of trauma dol. Yeah, I have heard of it. For
Speaker 2: some strange reason that that worked rings a bell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he got a suspended for It's like a
Speaker 3: type of steroid. Five games.
Speaker 4: He not total right, not not tortal trauma dool, traumadol.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what is that which he thought he was
Speaker 3: taking toward all?
Speaker 5: That's why he imagine it sounds the same.
Speaker 3: Right, A trauma doll is very different from.
Speaker 2: Tort second, know that he talked to Bobby Portis Mark.
Speaker 6: Mark Bartelstein of Priority Sports to ESPN on his client,
Speaker 6: Uh says they're devastated that he unintentionally took the pain
Speaker 6: medication called traumadol thinking he was taking a pain medication
Speaker 6: called tortle given to him by his assistant. Honest mistake
Speaker 6: is what they're calling it. Ah hmm, okay.
Speaker 3: I thought it. Let me look it up and was similar.
Speaker 6: It was recently added to the band list, but it's
Speaker 6: used for UH inflammation and.
Speaker 2: Unleash do that next time when you get popped with
Speaker 2: like some quervo, just say, oh, this is tequila. I
Speaker 2: thought it was tailing all by my fault. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: didn't know the difference. Yeah, nobody knows the difference between
Speaker 2: these two. I don't buy it for a second.
Speaker 3: Uh. He wanted to get on the gas.
Speaker 2: He figured nobody was looking because they were too focused
Speaker 2: on the fact that, you know, Brady and I are
Speaker 2: taking over the dunk contest and we wont it three
Speaker 2: straight years, And so he thought, you know what, I'll
Speaker 2: just I'll gas up real quick.
Speaker 3: It is a pain killer. I've heard.
Speaker 4: I've used this before. I've used trauma dont before trauma
Speaker 4: like as like a pain killer, I guess. So I
Speaker 4: thought I thought it was. I heard it as a steroid,
Speaker 4: but I knew it rang a bell. Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 5: Painkiller, pinkiller.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a painkiller. I'm showing that up.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, he's got a legitimate gripe there. Then
Speaker 4: if you ask me.
Speaker 2: Showing it's a performance enhancing drug in time trial cycling
Speaker 2: and raises questions pertaining to its fair use in competition
Speaker 2: that according to the National Institutes of Health, then.
Speaker 5: I can can I tell you guys when I kind
Speaker 5: of drew a red flag with this one. Yeah, when's
Speaker 5: the last time we've heard of a player popping positive
Speaker 5: for the anti drug policy for the NBA.
Speaker 3: It's been a while.
Speaker 5: You know how hard it is for any of these
Speaker 5: guys based on the threshold of test I don't even
Speaker 5: think they test for weed anymore. It's like it's it's
Speaker 5: darn near impossible for any of them to test positive
Speaker 5: or something, and most of them haven't for a long time.
Speaker 5: So this kind of makes sense. The explanation makes sense.
Speaker 5: I could see how he kind of gotten confused or
Speaker 5: you know, didn't understand what exactly he's taking. I mean, oftentimes,
Speaker 5: as a player, you're trusting what you're being given from
Speaker 5: the training staff or whoever's giving you that the doctor
Speaker 5: that they're a aware of the fact you could test
Speaker 5: positive or something like you're you shouldn't necessarily always put
Speaker 5: it on them. You're responsible for what you put in
Speaker 5: your body, but especially if they're involved with the team
Speaker 5: in any capacity, which I assumed whoever gave it to him,
Speaker 5: was that they would be aware of the fact that
Speaker 5: if you take it, you could test positive.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be honest with you, I like it.
Speaker 2: The All Star game sucked, but now you've got guys
Speaker 2: a gamble on games and take peds.
Speaker 3: That's it's something pp I mean, that's a league you're
Speaker 3: trying to make it. It doesn't anyway.
Speaker 2: It gets suspended twenty five games because he took a
Speaker 2: shot of water.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, there's a difference between narcotics and performance enhancing drugs.
Speaker 3: Twenty five games. I mean it feels like he did
Speaker 3: something wrong.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he didn't, but I think you're missing
Speaker 5: the points. Steroids and narcotics are not the same thing.
Speaker 5: I lump them together clearly, just because you want to
Speaker 5: make your piss hot joke funny.
Speaker 3: I just listen. I think this is a wonderful thing
Speaker 3: for the NBA. It would you say it's a pe D.
Speaker 2: You got a little bit of personality in your sport,
Speaker 2: you know. Not everybody is just mailing it in. Some
Speaker 2: guys are willing to go on the gas to try
Speaker 2: and get back in a game.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 4: And then it's used to relieve pain. It's a pain reliever.
Speaker 4: It's a it's an opioid.
Speaker 5: This is close to him smoking crack.
Speaker 3: What governing body you you just ran said it? Read
Speaker 3: it again.
Speaker 1: It's a P.
Speaker 3: It's a P Read that again, Jonas, what let me
Speaker 3: see if I can find it.
Speaker 2: Results from a study suggest that traumadol is a performance
Speaker 2: enhancing drug and time trial cycling, and raises questions pertaining to.
Speaker 3: Its fair use in competition. What's those source? What the
Speaker 3: n i H?
Speaker 2: The National Institutes of Health? Hey, look, I do what
Speaker 2: you gotta do. Man, Like if he wants to, you know,
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the spoon before again, that's fine too.
Speaker 3: Can't put it in a smoked All I'm saying is
Speaker 3: I'm trying to understand.
Speaker 4: How do you get twenty five games for a painkiller
Speaker 4: unless you're using it like it's an opioid, Like you're
Speaker 4: you're using it like it's cocaine. I would assume, like,
Speaker 4: how how do you get to that where you say, yep,
Speaker 4: we tested you, you you.
Speaker 3: Popped for this. It's a painkiller.
Speaker 4: Like, newsflash, people, if you aren't using some type of
Speaker 4: a painkiller at some point in time during your career as.
Speaker 3: A professional, I'd say, you've been blessed. What do you
Speaker 3: think he's got a hitting under his head bad. I
Speaker 3: don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Something that's horribly inappropriate with that trauma dol.
Speaker 2: But at least said that Bobby Portos also got nabbed
Speaker 2: for You got Robbucks, you got those Chile and those
Speaker 2: scumbags from Chile who were robbing people, and the NBA
Speaker 2: and NFL.
Speaker 3: Maybe you need it harder than anybody.
Speaker 6: You got about three million dollars worth of jewelry and
Speaker 6: cash taken.
Speaker 5: Trauma is happening everywhere though. Like you know, the old
Speaker 5: Georgia quarterback, Carson Back, he transferred to Miami. Him and
Speaker 5: his girl is dating one of the Cavender twins with
Speaker 5: one of the basketball players down there. They've got like
Speaker 5: two of their cars or maybe three of their like
Speaker 5: three cars stolen. It was like a Lambeau or Mercedes.
Speaker 5: There's some of the cars, like they all got jacks.
Speaker 3: Which one is he dating?
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know. They look the same to me.
Speaker 4: They're a little different. Okay, they're a little different.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I just know that he's dating one
Speaker 5: of the Cavendar twins. I'm not that up to the
Speaker 5: dating scene of its allege athlete.
Speaker 4: There's a bigger difference in a little difference in the twins,
Speaker 4: is what I say. What do you mean as far
Speaker 4: as like athletic I'm just saying there's a bigger difference
Speaker 4: and a little difference in between them as twins. That's all.
Speaker 4: They do look just alike though in the face. In
Speaker 4: the face, I mean, I'm just you know, I'm just
Speaker 4: curious as to which what what there? He came from Georgia, right,
Speaker 4: he left Georgia. So I'm assuming you know what I'm assuming,
Speaker 4: But I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: You know, Lee, are you up to.
Speaker 5: Date on the Carson beg dating scenario? Is he dating
Speaker 5: which Cavendar twin? Is he dating?
Speaker 3: No, that's not really in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure of all the things that you could
Speaker 5: actually google search, this is one that you chose not to.
Speaker 3: That is correct, okay, And if you would have said
Speaker 3: the Williams sisters, he would have been all over that. Dang,
Speaker 3: it's not a.
Speaker 5: What's guys? Just to show you how hardly works on
Speaker 5: the show, Hannah Cavender is the one that he's dating.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, Hannah Cavender. I was going
Speaker 5: to say Hannah, in case you guys were wondering how
Speaker 5: hardly works. He couldn't even take five seconds to put.
Speaker 3: In the well.
Speaker 6: I was looking up what was stolen from Bobby I
Speaker 6: can't tell if it's this or a different athlete, but
Speaker 6: there is a pot leaf jewelry emblem, so I was
Speaker 6: wondering if, you know, maybe he got popped for that.
Speaker 3: That's why I was trying to figure out.
Speaker 5: He didn't get pop for the way I know that,
Speaker 5: but I.
Speaker 3: Was doing a deep dive. What well we were trying
Speaker 3: to figure out before the lead.
Speaker 4: Not No, he might be you know, you can't believe
Speaker 4: him if he says I know, you can't believe this
Speaker 4: is this is right?
Speaker 3: To make it easier for everybody, I just called it
Speaker 3: ped all right. I was trying to. But it's not
Speaker 3: easier for everybody. I think, Yeah, but you're misleading. It's not.
Speaker 5: I mean, it would look I get it. You're the
Speaker 5: four known expert on guys who test positive for PDS,
Speaker 5: because you talk about this all the time with UFC
Speaker 5: and you go off on your rants and different tangents.
Speaker 5: But this is not that. So you can't throw that
Speaker 5: on Bobby portis right.
Speaker 2: I just assume that when you get suspended for twenty
Speaker 2: five games, it's not because you add too much gatorade
Speaker 2: like that. That would be my assumption. But apparently I
Speaker 2: got that wrong. By the way, I did send you
Speaker 2: guys over a link to how you handle one of
Speaker 2: those uh Chilean burglars.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you want me to do with that?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm just pointing out here and something.
Speaker 5: Can I describe for the listeners what you sent? You
Speaker 5: basically sent some dude who just got his face beat
Speaker 5: in by Yeah, another guy who's like looks perfectly fine
Speaker 5: at his desk in his homes.
Speaker 2: So in a in a Gora Hills a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, one of these guys from because it's like
Speaker 2: a big ring, like the this burglary ring that's going
Speaker 2: around getting all these athletes or whatever. They've come out
Speaker 2: to southern California a bunch of times and they went
Speaker 2: to a Gora Hills and tried to get this guy
Speaker 2: for his stuff, and they didn't realize the guy used
Speaker 2: to fight when he was younger and just lit this
Speaker 2: dude's face on fire. And so this guy's mugshot looks
Speaker 2: like he fell off a building. So you know, there's
Speaker 2: a there's a way that you can handle that, or
Speaker 2: you can just wait till they post selfies of themselves
Speaker 2: and then they get popped and you know, then you
Speaker 2: find out who did what. So well, Bobby Portis, Hey,
Speaker 2: we support you. We lost LeVar, big misunderstanding. I don't
Speaker 2: see much of a difference, by the way, LeVar.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm found to different one for you. Always different
Speaker 4: different man, didn't.
Speaker 3: It is definitely hold the other day.
Speaker 5: I know exactly where that's at, by the way, do
Speaker 5: you yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay? Nice? Wow? Wow?
Speaker 2: All right, well, hey, thanks for making things awkwardly, so
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 5: Oh that's not the sisters though.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is No, it's not okay. Hold on, dude,
Speaker 3: you just hold on.
Speaker 5: Just set a photo of one of them with another check.
Speaker 3: Hold on, you'll see hold on.
Speaker 4: Hold I'm trying to tell you that's not all right,
Speaker 4: but hold on. I've just seen this the other day.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, just hold on, give me some time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, Well the internet is slow, all right, So
Speaker 4: we're fixing the internet issues so we can get to
Speaker 4: the bottom of which twin is, which we do of
Speaker 4: An update on the Matthew Stafford situation. Some people call
Speaker 4: hi matt if you want to piss off his wife,
Speaker 4: But Matthew Stafford, according to Jordan Schultz of Fox Sports,
Speaker 4: while uncertainty remains around Stafford's future with the team. League
Speaker 4: sources are adam at the coach Sean mcvain, the organization
Speaker 4: want to keep the Super Bowl champion. He went on
Speaker 4: to say that several teams per league sources have called
Speaker 4: LA about Stafford, and the belief is a first round
Speaker 4: pick would probably be the asking price should the Rams
Speaker 4: choose to make a deal, and reportedly Stafford's preference would
Speaker 4: be to stay in LA.
Speaker 2: But apparently this is about the money, and I'm just wondering,
Speaker 2: based on the dead cap hit that would apply if
Speaker 2: they trade him or if you know, they release him,
Speaker 2: whatever the decision is, does he know he's got them
Speaker 2: in a spot to where it would make more sense
Speaker 2: to keep him, extend him short term and pay him
Speaker 2: as opposed to go elsewhere. Because I just wonder why
Speaker 2: we're at this point, and maybe seeing some of the
Speaker 2: numbers financially that have been thrown out. He carries the
Speaker 2: forty nine million dollar a cap hit if he's released
Speaker 2: it maybe that's why Matt Stafford is as aggressive as
Speaker 2: he is trying to get paid you know what probably
Speaker 2: would be the last contract of his career.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's one of the biggest things is like,
Speaker 5: this is his last chance to really tie into that
Speaker 5: that big dollar VALI value at the end of his career.
Speaker 5: Do you remember when Tom Brady and Drew brees Or
Speaker 5: at the end of their career, they were signing essentially
Speaker 5: for like twenty five million per year, which is crazy
Speaker 5: to think that, you know, especially Tom Brady was still
Speaker 5: playing at a really high level at that point, that
Speaker 5: that's what you could have gotten a first ballot Hall
Speaker 5: of Famer for. And I'm not saying Stafford's a Paul Famer,
Speaker 5: and I mean that's for someone else to decide, but
Speaker 5: that number is going to be closer to fifty now,
Speaker 5: you know, as far as what he's going to sign
Speaker 5: for what anyone's willing to invest, and that's in essence
Speaker 5: what the Falcons signed Cousins for last year. They give
Speaker 5: him ninety million guaranteed over two years. Now he'll end
Speaker 5: up basically giving the ninety million from the plan one.
Speaker 5: But that's kind of the going rate. And that's why
Speaker 5: if you're any one of these quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 5: Matt Stafford, whoever, there's a component of this that is financial.
Speaker 5: Where else in the world are any of those guys
Speaker 5: gonna step off of the field and onto a set
Speaker 5: or anything else and make fifty million dollars a year.
Speaker 5: You're just not there's nothing out there waiting for them
Speaker 5: that they're gonna make that much money, So you exhaust
Speaker 5: all efforts at doing it. If you could be in
Speaker 5: a situation where you're with a team that I mean,
Speaker 5: hell again, you mentioned earlier this week Jonas took the
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles to the brink. Why not stay into the
Speaker 5: year or two? Why not finish things out out in LA.
Speaker 5: Now he's got some leverage on that's probably part of it.
Speaker 5: But I look at this and just say, there's a
Speaker 5: huge need for teams for they don't want to start over.
Speaker 5: They don't want to have to have a guy who's
Speaker 5: unproven necessarily or they might not be in a position
Speaker 5: even draft one. And so it's why not spend the
Speaker 5: money then on a veteran guy like that where you
Speaker 5: can get some things, you know, you get your ducks
Speaker 5: in a row, get some things in place to prepare
Speaker 5: for that young guy that comes along, whether either either
Speaker 5: via the draft, either via a guy you take that's
Speaker 5: unexpected that develops. I mean, it wasn't like Jalen Hurts
Speaker 5: was a first round pick. He was a second round pick,
Speaker 5: and they had inclination he'd be ready at some point,
Speaker 5: but he developed into that. So maybe there's some guys
Speaker 5: in this year's draft, whether it's the Jackson Dart or
Speaker 5: someone else that we're not talking about enough, that could
Speaker 5: develop into that guy behind you know, one of these
Speaker 5: veteran guys, whether it's a Rogers Stafford whoever.
Speaker 4: That's a whole lot of money to pay somebody to
Speaker 4: have somebody develop behind them. I mean, the numbers are
Speaker 4: are just I think it's just crazy to think that,
Speaker 4: all right, you're at the end, we're gonna throw you
Speaker 4: fifty to come in here and start for what a
Speaker 4: year or two? Maybe I just think that's crazy. I mean,
Speaker 4: but I mean that's the market that we're in. I
Speaker 4: just think that that's pretty wild, man. And so looking
Speaker 4: at the rams, they don't they're okay with entertaining this,
Speaker 4: because why if somebody else is willing to pay that
Speaker 4: amount of money for the quarterback that you have, I
Speaker 4: would assume you you feel good about who you're moving
Speaker 4: on from that quarterback to use, right, I mean, you're
Speaker 4: not going to move away from a quarterback that can
Speaker 4: command that type of money in the in the in
Speaker 4: the market, and you don't have another guy, So why
Speaker 4: would you allow somebody else to pay him that money
Speaker 4: if he could still be that player for you? Like
Speaker 4: there is there bad blood? Like is there more to
Speaker 4: it than just the idea of playing football?
Speaker 2: That's what I've wondered about this, because if you're Matt
Speaker 2: Stafford and you came from the situation you came from,
Speaker 2: which was Detroit, where you made a ton of money.
Speaker 2: He's made, you know, three hundred and sixty five million
Speaker 2: dollars whatever it is in his career. He made a
Speaker 2: ton of money in Detroit, but he wanted out of
Speaker 2: there because he wanted to try and win. Well, now
Speaker 2: you're in a place to where even when they thought
Speaker 2: it was a down year or yeah, well we're not
Speaker 2: really sure about them, nobody gave the Eagles as much
Speaker 2: of a game as the Rams did in the postseason,
Speaker 2: and that was in snow conditions, with turnovers and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. And yet with an opportunity late in that
Speaker 2: game to go down ball in his hands, final drive
Speaker 2: to try and win that game on the road in Philly.
Speaker 2: And if you do that next thing, you know, you're
Speaker 2: hosting a playoff game and it's the NFC title game.
Speaker 2: Like if I was Matt Stafford, I would look at
Speaker 2: it and go, Man, I've made X amount of dollars
Speaker 2: in my career. I'm in a great spot. Why would
Speaker 2: I want to leave?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Why not work more with them? And instead there's this
Speaker 2: awkward thing that's going on. This is a second year
Speaker 2: in a row. This has happened. That's the part that
Speaker 2: I wonder is there some bad blood there?
Speaker 3: Like? Is there something else going on there?
Speaker 2: Because to me, especially knowing where he came from and
Speaker 2: the amount of money he's made, it doesn't add up
Speaker 2: to me why you would ever want to entertain going
Speaker 2: anywhere else unless it is all about money. He wants
Speaker 2: to get to an even four hundred million. I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I can't thigure, but my point is, why wouldn't
Speaker 2: Why would the Rams is not still? Oh God, why
Speaker 2: would the Rams not hold on to him? If he's
Speaker 2: that valuable out there? You don't have a answer. You
Speaker 2: don't have a replacement for him if somebody's willing.
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, Rogers could be won, Darnold could be one.
Speaker 5: He literally just came from that same system in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Okay, we of our Rodgers out here in Socow. He'd
Speaker 3: be neighbors.
Speaker 4: If somebody is willing to pay that man that type
Speaker 4: of money, and you're going to bring in Rogers and
Speaker 4: you think it's going to be different, Okay, how much
Speaker 4: are you paying Rogers?
Speaker 3: How much is he going to get around the same
Speaker 3: lesson Stafford?
Speaker 4: Is it going to be less? Oh yeah, why why
Speaker 4: would it be less than Stafford? He's got more of
Speaker 4: a body of work. Why would it be less They're
Speaker 4: both at the end of their career. He was willing
Speaker 4: to play for less than with the Jets. I think
Speaker 4: with the Jets he was gonna make what thirty and change,
Speaker 4: like thirty million something like the Rams would be saving
Speaker 4: about twenty million dollars this upcoming year. Bringing Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: one last time, give it a go in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Could live right down the street from var Sometimes you
Speaker 4: get what you pay for. Guys could hang out in
Speaker 4: Dondo during the summer. I mean, we're into some of
Speaker 4: the same things. I wouldn't have a problem with hanging
Speaker 4: with them. I don't have no problem with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: I'll go down into Keebler, Elf Tree, WITTM. Yeah, for
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 3: I fit in there. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: what is going to happen at the NFL Draft. We
Speaker 2: know one thing about the NFL Draft. We'll tell you
Speaker 2: what that one thing is. That's next here on FSR.
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Speaker 2: on two pros and a cup of Joe called Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 2: We're our executive producer, Lee to Laugh has some thoughts,
Speaker 2: some things on his mind. He will throw those at
Speaker 2: us and usually he steers us towards ditch as we
Speaker 2: close out the show here on a Thursday, So we
Speaker 2: will hear from Lee coming up here at about fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes from now. Now we do know what is going
Speaker 2: to happen in the draft, all right, we know who's
Speaker 2: not going to be there at least. The draft is
Speaker 2: coming up in April. It's in Green Bay and apparently
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders will not be a part of the draft.
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders was on overtime talking about his decision to
Speaker 2: not attend the draft in Green Bay.
Speaker 7: Let's take a listen, we most likely do Colorado or Dallas.
Speaker 7: We ain't really decide like fully, fully fully yet. Yeah,
Speaker 7: we plan on doing it, you know, like an event
Speaker 7: thing and we'll be fun. There'll be more family friends
Speaker 7: be able to come because the only thing we're going
Speaker 7: to the draft is just like, you know, I want
Speaker 7: to spend those moments with my people. You got, I
Speaker 7: think having everybody come out there, Bro, it's gonna be
Speaker 7: so expensive. You feel me so cause why you saving
Speaker 7: a lot of money? You get to be around your
Speaker 7: people and all that. Like, it's not just me, you
Speaker 7: know that I was able to get to this point.
Speaker 5: It's like a team.
Speaker 3: It was a team thing.
Speaker 7: It was a team of people that helped me allowed
Speaker 7: to get to where I am now. So I want
Speaker 7: to be able to make sure I am able to
Speaker 7: enjoy that with everybody and nobody be in uncomfortable situations
Speaker 7: just for traveling and just to show support.
Speaker 4: So there you go. And that's for the draft. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: which make more sense these days. It does make a
Speaker 4: lot of sense. And I think it's not an easy
Speaker 4: place to get to. And you know, for for some people,
Speaker 4: they'd rather be at home with their family and friends
Speaker 4: in an environment they're comfortable with.
Speaker 5: Uh. Depending on who you talk to, Some people view
Speaker 5: shadors number one. Some people have views cam Ward, I
Speaker 5: kind of know.
Speaker 3: What's that. There's another one out there for number one.
Speaker 3: Come on, throw them out there. Throw his name out,
Speaker 3: Abdul Carter. No quarter I'm talking about quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 5: And anyway, the point is is that like those guys,
Speaker 5: you know, they probably want to say, like, hey, I
Speaker 5: don't necessarily know where exactly I could be going. I
Speaker 5: mean I went through that when when I when I
Speaker 5: went to New York, and so there's there's always that
Speaker 5: potential chance that maybe it doesn't work out exactly the
Speaker 5: way you think or exactly the way you would hope
Speaker 5: for so there's there's elements of that, but I think
Speaker 5: the other thing is and I remember, like the NFL
Speaker 5: brought me in at one point in time after the draft.
Speaker 5: Me was like a couple of years later, two or
Speaker 5: three years later, and we talked about some of the
Speaker 5: things that would make it easier to get more guys
Speaker 5: to go, because they wanted to create an environment where
Speaker 5: more guys want to go to the draft, to walk
Speaker 5: out on stage to shake Roger Goodell's hand. And I
Speaker 5: kind of said to them, like, look, if you guys
Speaker 5: aren't paying guys to be here, like, there's gonna come
Speaker 5: a time when these guys can make more money staying
Speaker 5: at home and doing a draft party somewhere else. And
Speaker 5: it sounds like that's something that Sanders Fan was gonna
Speaker 5: be able to capitalize off of. You know, whether it's
Speaker 5: Shador or it's Travis Hunter as well. I'd assume there's
Speaker 5: a few other players too. You know, Shepherd their wide receiver,
Speaker 5: He's gonna get drafted, Horne will get drafted. Like there's
Speaker 5: a number of players who I think will get drafted
Speaker 5: from that team, and there might be something they're doing
Speaker 5: for all of them, and all those guys getting paid
Speaker 5: off that. So that's the hard part is I think
Speaker 5: people sometimes aren't aware that a lot of these athletes
Speaker 5: now have the potential and chance to make a lot
Speaker 5: of money before they get into the NFL. And even
Speaker 5: that week leading up to the draft, whether you go.
Speaker 4: To the draft or not, I guarantee you there's going
Speaker 4: to be a ton of KFC there, no cat. The
Speaker 4: Sanders family have been doing a lot of KFC reads,
Speaker 4: a lot of KFC commercials.
Speaker 5: So here's my question for you, though, Can you call
Speaker 5: it KFC if KFC is moving its headquarters from Kentucky
Speaker 5: to Texas.
Speaker 4: I mean yes, because it's still it's still the recipe
Speaker 4: originated from Kentucky. That's why it's like, why are you
Speaker 4: able to call Philly cheese steaks Philly cheese steaks in
Speaker 4: different places? Why can you call them French fries? I
Speaker 4: don't get all of that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Is it not a French fry because it's not in France.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, is it not a Philly cheese steak
Speaker 4: because it's not in Philly? So I think it would
Speaker 4: still be Kentucky fried Chicken. I mean I could go
Speaker 4: buy some KFC today in Cali, and it's still be
Speaker 4: called KFC in a bucket. But I'm being joke. I'm joking,
Speaker 4: but I think the point it's not churches. But okay,
Speaker 4: churches does have some good chicken. But I really do
Speaker 4: like Popeye's chicken.
Speaker 5: Man, it's Popeyes flavor.
Speaker 4: Man, telling you, I love me some pop Popeyes, like
Speaker 4: Popeyes almost stole my career.
Speaker 3: Man, it almost career.
Speaker 5: Without Popeyes. You may have ever had PhD.
Speaker 3: That is very true.
Speaker 4: That is very true that I was reminded of that
Speaker 4: as well. Uh, but you know, if I could do
Speaker 4: it all over again, going back to my draft day,
Speaker 4: I one hundred percent would have did it somewhere where
Speaker 4: all my family could be there. It would have probably
Speaker 4: most likely and and all actuality been at my high school.
Speaker 4: I think that would have made the most sense to
Speaker 4: me when I look back on it. And things move
Speaker 4: so fast and so quickly that you know, you just
Speaker 4: kind of go with the flow of what people tell you,
Speaker 4: the status quo of what it's supposed to be. But
Speaker 4: I think the cool thing about you know, where things
Speaker 4: are now is that athletes have more of an understanding
Speaker 4: what they represent and the value that they hold. You know,
Speaker 4: I can't say that I knew that when I was
Speaker 4: coming out in terms of that value being me saying
Speaker 4: you know what, I think we should coordinate me doing
Speaker 4: it here, or I can use this like if somebody
Speaker 4: took it to a whole other level where I'm going
Speaker 4: to take this moment that's for me getting drafted, and
Speaker 4: I'm going to use this as as a platform and
Speaker 4: the opportunity to shine light on something that I'm truly
Speaker 4: passionate about. Like those are the things that I would
Speaker 4: have if I could do it all over again. That's
Speaker 4: how I would do it. I would shine light on
Speaker 4: our wounded Warriors programming, not understanding what you know, what
Speaker 4: goes into all of it, and how many people can
Speaker 4: be impacted and affected in a positive way if people
Speaker 4: just got involved. You know, there's like for me, that
Speaker 4: would be my passion and that would be something that
Speaker 4: I would think. Understanding your brand, understanding what you command
Speaker 4: in terms of time and attention, and being able to
Speaker 4: leverage that. I think it's a great it's a great
Speaker 4: step forward for athletes that understand it. Generally quarterbacks have
Speaker 4: that understanding, they have that support group where there the
Speaker 4: planning of what their careers look like, how they are
Speaker 4: handling things. I mean Tim Tebow being one of the
Speaker 4: best examples that you could ever throw out there in
Speaker 4: terms of just leveraging your passion and your purpose along
Speaker 4: with what you do on the field, and how you
Speaker 4: can build your community that way. I would have definitely
Speaker 4: been a part of my community. I would have made
Speaker 4: sure Penn State community was a part of it. I
Speaker 4: would have made sure that my North Hills family was
Speaker 4: a part of it as well, and obviously my immediate
Speaker 4: family members like my grandparents and all that stuff. So
Speaker 4: I think it's a good I think it's great reasoning
Speaker 4: from Shador to say he wants to be, you know,
Speaker 4: where the people that were with him can can attend
Speaker 4: with all of them can attend with him.
Speaker 3: It is awesome. Now, if the draft was.
Speaker 4: In South Beach, here you go, I might change my
Speaker 4: mind and I might just do it there. I might
Speaker 4: have to do all those things that I mentioned. Just
Speaker 4: do it in South Beach.
Speaker 2: You know, just throw everything at the clevelander and say
Speaker 2: anybody want to come now, And I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: you have a different, different answer.
Speaker 4: I would still do it at home. I think I
Speaker 4: would if today, I would still do it at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but back then you were what twenty one?
Speaker 3: Well, but let's go.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think that that is truly the
Speaker 4: the wild card of having Dion primetime Sanders. You know,
Speaker 4: his guidance, his his mentorship, his understanding. Uh, he is
Speaker 4: an ultimate master brander. I mean, he is as good
Speaker 4: as it has ever been. And they get the benefit
Speaker 4: of him being their coach, and in Chador's case, he
Speaker 4: gets the benefit of that being his father. So I
Speaker 4: think that that plays a part. I did not have
Speaker 4: that type of guidance.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Let me uh, let me ask you you guys a question.
Speaker 5: If the draft was in New York, do you think
Speaker 5: they'd be going.
Speaker 3: I must say I think they're going to stick to
Speaker 3: the plan.
Speaker 4: That would say that may be the case, but there's
Speaker 4: probably a better chance based off of what they could
Speaker 4: parlay leverage in New York. I would say there's a
Speaker 4: chance that they would do that. That's why I throughout Miami.
Speaker 4: I don't think the market is in Miami that the
Speaker 4: market definitely isn't crazy attractive to want to do it there.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing is the draft, just like the combine
Speaker 5: just like the Pro Bowl two. Often times the NFL
Speaker 5: tinkers and tweaks this stuff, and it's really so there's
Speaker 5: like a you know, bidding process, and ya, look, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of cities that've gotten left out of Super
Speaker 5: Bowls because they're not gonna either have the confines of
Speaker 5: a stadium to host one, you know, or you know,
Speaker 5: even if they do, it might be a one and
Speaker 5: done unless it's a dome, because they don't want to
Speaker 5: have to necessarily be in a cool weather place. So
Speaker 5: that's the truth and the harsh reality. So what do
Speaker 5: they do to so event that they came up with
Speaker 5: the draft where they're going to rotate now in different cities.
Speaker 5: And I get it there's excitement around it, but just
Speaker 5: from my experience, man, there was people who came to
Speaker 5: New York who've never been back in my family, like
Speaker 5: they solely came for that event, that moment, to share
Speaker 5: with me everything else and just to experience New York
Speaker 5: Like that was Like one of the things too, is
Speaker 5: oh it's in New York. I mean if it was
Speaker 5: in another city where they go, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 5: maybe not, But there's something about that, you know, there's
Speaker 5: there's something about having the Pro Bowl and Hawaii that
Speaker 5: made it special. And I think this is one of
Speaker 5: the mistakes that the NFL has made in a way.
Speaker 5: I understand in saying that it's probably gonna upset some
Speaker 5: Green Bay fans, people who live in Green Bay. I'm
Speaker 5: sorry if that upsets you. I just can only talk
Speaker 5: from my perspective on it, and I regardless of how
Speaker 5: long it took me to get drafted on that draft day,
Speaker 5: I still wouldn't have changed a thing in regards to
Speaker 5: especially going to New York and being a part of
Speaker 5: it and all the different things that we did that
Speaker 5: week leading up, whether it's the children's hospital, visits, some
Speaker 5: of the community service, it's like any of those other
Speaker 5: things it was. It was all incredible, was awesome. It
Speaker 5: was well put on by the NFL. That's why I'm
Speaker 5: a bit I'm not surprised when players opt to not
Speaker 5: go because it's not always, you know, the same, it
Speaker 5: doesn't feel the same. You know, if they move the
Speaker 5: heisman from New York to somewhere else, I wouldn't quite
Speaker 5: feel the same. So that's that's kind of one of
Speaker 5: those things that's it's it's synonymous with that, you know,
Speaker 5: when you think about the draft, like I always think
Speaker 5: about New York, but you know, that's changed now, and
Speaker 5: I think that might play a role in some of
Speaker 5: these guys opting not to go.
Speaker 2: You know, And I've always thought that the draft has
Speaker 2: now turned into the consolation prize for a city that
Speaker 2: can't get a super Bowl at three of the draft.
Speaker 2: You know, whether it's Green Bay next year is going
Speaker 2: to be Pittsburgh. A super Bowl's never going to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: But the draft can go and you can come out
Speaker 2: there for you know, two three days, hang out and
Speaker 2: infuse some something to the economy there.
Speaker 4: And it was such a hit in Tennessee. I think
Speaker 4: people felt like, Okay, this is something that could work.
Speaker 4: But then you I just gotta be honest. When you
Speaker 4: hit a market like Green Bay, I think you take
Speaker 4: a lot and that it may turn out to be
Speaker 4: a win, But I think going into it, I don't
Speaker 4: think it's very attractive.
Speaker 3: You almost signed with Green Bay and.
Speaker 4: I got offered by New York and went to New
Speaker 4: York for less money.
Speaker 2: Ebit a why New York even the preference over green Bay.
Speaker 4: It just it just seems like what Q said, I
Speaker 4: think the the tradition of it just seems to be right,
Speaker 4: you know, the way you handle things. Because I did
Speaker 4: enjoy my time for the draft as well in New York.
Speaker 4: I will say as much family as I had there,
Speaker 4: I will say again, I'm standing on what I just said.
Speaker 4: I would have knowing the value that you brought to
Speaker 4: them going to those children's hospital.
Speaker 5: On what you just said, you have to stand on.
Speaker 4: It, and I'm a stand on it because you're sitting
Speaker 4: on it. Is kind of like when you sit on
Speaker 4: something that that would kind of imply lazy. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: would imply lazy, sit on it is not. Yeah, no, cap,
Speaker 4: thank you up top Jonas. Yeah, okay, all right, there
Speaker 4: you go. I just think that having the value that
Speaker 4: you bring to the table and and what that represents,
Speaker 4: I think that you can maximize that in your in
Speaker 4: your own community. You come out and unless you're from
Speaker 4: New York, I think you come outside of your community
Speaker 4: to go into somebody else's to bring that value. They
Speaker 4: bring your value into it. Whereas I think in a
Speaker 4: moment where you're accomplishing something that it represents a closing
Speaker 4: of a major chapter, which is the pursuit of becoming
Speaker 4: a professional at what you're doing.
Speaker 3: I think in those moments it.
Speaker 4: Definitely should be focused in on how you can maximize
Speaker 4: what you're doing and what that plan represents versus somebody
Speaker 4: else maximizing it. And I think that that's what people
Speaker 4: do that's connected to the NFL Draft, that's what they do.
Speaker 4: And if you don't have any plan, then it's fine
Speaker 4: if you're a part of it. But I would just
Speaker 4: say if I was a Shador Sanders or an abdual
Speaker 4: Carter or a cam Ward, I think that I would
Speaker 4: want to bring awareness and use my brand to bring
Speaker 4: awareness to the things that I'm passionate about in connection
Speaker 4: to my community. And that's a tremendous value that you
Speaker 4: would be able to bring to your community that otherwise,
Speaker 4: Like if I could go back and do it all
Speaker 4: over again, it would be veterans, it would be bringing thorn,
Speaker 4: you know, pediatric cancer, bringing awareness to those things. That's
Speaker 4: ultimately what growing your brand and growing your your reputation
Speaker 4: and status is really should be for is to assist
Speaker 4: them to push other people forward.
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Speaker 1: These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible, but they're
Speaker 1: still good.
Speaker 3: Time to find out what's lap?
Speaker 1: It's Lee's lap?
Speaker 3: All right to laugh? What do we got? Well, fellas,
Speaker 3: tonight we get it.
Speaker 6: We get USA versus Canada USA point and a half favorites,
Speaker 6: and the four nations face off on finale at TD Garden.
Speaker 2: Let's see what is it? Well, that's the puck line.
Speaker 2: The money lion is even.
Speaker 3: The money line's even correct out. So how do we
Speaker 3: feel it?
Speaker 5: No booing of this beautiful song, No booing of it?
Speaker 5: All right, just play nice.
Speaker 2: You don't think Canadians are gonna get media get into
Speaker 2: that this time, do you. I can't imagine.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine they would.
Speaker 3: Take this sport.
Speaker 2: I wanted to out what's the over under on first fight?
Speaker 2: First time they dropped the gloves and start throwing down.
Speaker 5: What do you got?
Speaker 6: I don't have that. I do have first goal scores.
Speaker 6: Connor McDavid's best odds obviously fight. I think it's got
Speaker 6: to be first period, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Would assume, but you know, it would be nice if
Speaker 2: we had an actual line on that I'm working over,
Speaker 2: if your DraftKings through the last ye there like that.
Speaker 3: So what else we got lee?
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of USA VERSUS Canada, remember the Delta flight
Speaker 6: that was leaving Minneapolis crashed in Toronto, flipped upside down. Well,
Speaker 6: Delta is offering thirty thousand dollars to each passenger that
Speaker 6: was on that flight, seventy six passengers. That comes up
Speaker 6: to about two point three million dollars. They have yet
Speaker 6: to decide whether or not they are going to accept that.
Speaker 6: Is that enough money?
Speaker 5: No, honestly they'll be I don't know how many you
Speaker 5: need for a class action, But like, once they get
Speaker 5: all the facts on why, what happened, how it happened,
Speaker 5: there'll be a significant loss it. So there's no chance
Speaker 5: and it takes that money, no chance.
Speaker 3: Did anybody get seriously hurt? There were some injuries, seriously hurt.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you mean by that. Seriously hurt
Speaker 3: is seriously hurt in one of those things. Believe I
Speaker 3: saw like nine people in critical condition.
Speaker 5: They're gonna have PTSD from it too. Everyone about think
Speaker 5: about flying from out Never fly scary, that would.
Speaker 3: Be never do it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: How did it end up? Flipped over? Did it land?
Speaker 3: And then slipped it land?
Speaker 5: The gear? You know, the gear went out because it
Speaker 5: landed so hard and so fast, and then as it
Speaker 5: kind of turned obviously as it hit the landing, then
Speaker 5: it kind of rolled over.
Speaker 3: The wings snapped off and it rolled.
Speaker 4: It looked like it wasn't it ice, Like, wasn't it
Speaker 4: ice and snow or whatever?
Speaker 5: I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought, it's okay, all right. They didn't.
Speaker 5: They didn't decelerate enough. There wasn't like flaps out usually
Speaker 5: to then gradually touch down. They kind of slammed down
Speaker 5: and they did so instead of like the back hitting first,
Speaker 5: it seemed like it all kind of hit together and
Speaker 5: maybe even the front first to a degree.
Speaker 3: Man. And that's really all all you know, don't hear
Speaker 3: about that? With spirit?
Speaker 4: That's really all palettes do is take off and lane right.
Speaker 4: The rest of it is all auto pallette. It's like
Speaker 4: the takeoff and the land that's it. That's all you
Speaker 4: got to is like Delta's taking all the blame. But
Speaker 4: I believe we'll say Endeavor Air was the operator, which
Speaker 4: like that's one thing.
Speaker 5: If you're flying out there, look into it. Don't just
Speaker 5: look at who your person the ticket from. Look at
Speaker 5: who's actually operating the plane itself.
Speaker 3: It's a great point, Pang.
Speaker 4: They had Snoop Dogg do do the Soul plane and
Speaker 4: you know he was he was the Pallette. You might
Speaker 4: not want to fly on on that plane. So that's
Speaker 4: out Snoop Dogg and Kevin Hart or you know, the
Speaker 4: Soul Plane too soon?
Speaker 3: Bad? Maybe it's too soon? What else? What else? Area
Speaker 3: of whether or not it's enough money.
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes Senior is supposedly gonna be paid eighty five
Speaker 6: thousand dollars in base pay to fight. Uh, John Rocker,
Speaker 6: is that enough?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes is trying to put a stop to it,
Speaker 6: apparently reportedly.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm Patrick Mahomes eighty five.
Speaker 3: Grand I don't know. Yeah, I'm gonna say no, he
Speaker 3: got on that fight Mahomes. I don't have either one
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 5: Well, you have to pick a dog in the fight.
Speaker 3: After after the Mike Tyson do I don't, I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not getting into these. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take Mahomes.
Speaker 2: I feel like rockers too muscular, mahomes straight or punches.
Speaker 3: You might not fill them after a couple of them
Speaker 3: drinks