1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Blowing out of the backfield, 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. This He's Hanging with the Boys, 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where flavor gets its wings. Now, 5 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: Gross Yo Yo Yo Man has the pendulum swung over 7 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: the weekend, the leverage pendulum. Man. I can't wait to 8 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: talk to you boys today. Shady Gross broadcasting live from 9 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Bedroom here in Frisco, Texas, Joy by 10 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Man, how th a 11 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: few days. Let's get right into it. We got the 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: red rocket get in Dallas. What do you guys think 13 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: about that? What were your initial thoughts? Anybody jump in 14 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: go with it? I was floorward. I did not see 15 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: it coming. Holy cow, just when you thought read Jesus 16 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: was gone, rose from the grave. Baby. First, I want 17 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: to hit me. I want to hit me. I want 18 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: to hear Nate first. Nate, you got a lot to say, Nate, 19 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: So I want to hear you first. Let me let 20 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: me tell you man, Hey, wait, real quick, real quick, 21 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: breaking news. As reported by Dallas Cowboys dot com. Cooper 22 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Rush has been cut by the Dallas Cowboys. Now, now 23 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: let me say that's how you do it. It sucks 24 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: to get it sucks to get cut, it sucks to 25 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: get released, But that is how you do it. You 26 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: don't hold on to a man until training camp, until 27 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: further down to say, this is how you do it. 28 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: You bring another guy in, you let him go. Now 29 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: it sucks to be cut, but at least Cooper Rush 30 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: has the opportunity to go fid employment somewhere else. Before 31 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: we really get into the spring of things of training 32 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: camps and things of that nature. This is how it's 33 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be done. Fellas. When you see guys get 34 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: held onto up until training camp and then get released, 35 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: you make it virtually impossible full out of these guys 36 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: to find employment. So kudo to the Cowboys. This is 37 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: how you release somebody. You sign a guy, you know 38 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: that you're done with this guy. This no need to 39 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: keep them, hold them on, hold on to them, let 40 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: them go, let them try to go find employment somewhere else. 41 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: This is how it's supposed to be done. I'd say it. 42 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: I try here man, when my phone blew up. Man, Kurt, 43 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: we didn't I didn't hit you, but I hit Jesse 44 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: in the beard right away. Man. And because believe it 45 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: or not, this is how it's supposed to be done. 46 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: You cannot go into a season and we all agree 47 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: with Cooper Cup as your backup. You got a quarterback 48 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: that don't want to sign. I don't know if he 49 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: signed this tag yet, but this is how business it's 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be done. Now, you go out and find 51 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: a capable backup. You know, even though Dak has never 52 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: missed the game, this is how you do it. Now 53 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: depends on them. Like you said, my friend, gross it 54 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: swung leverage right. I don't know. I'm not getting into contracts, 55 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: but I'm getting into We got a guy that I 56 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: think it's a starter. Now what you think he's a 57 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: number number a three, starter, number thirty two starter. I 58 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: don't care. This team is going forward. Mike McCarthy called 59 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, Will McClay and mister Jones and say, man, 60 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: I need a quarterback. What if Dak ain't paying attention 61 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: to what's going on? What if this virtual virtual meetings 62 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: turning into virtual reality, then we don't have this cat 63 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: and this thing jump off da Cowboys contract. I have 64 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: nothing to do with, but great move for the Dallas 65 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys and making sure you have a viable backup because 66 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: there's too much talent on this team offensively to sit 67 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: there dormant. Kurt, what do you think, man? Oh? I 68 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: thought it was a great move. I mean, just put 69 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Dax's whole situation aside. I mean, just the fact that 70 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: this coaching staff wanted a proven veteran to be a backup. 71 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: Like Nate said, I mean, yeah, Dax played every game, 72 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: but you know, one snap of the football and now 73 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: you're looking at her guy unproving guy who's thrown for 74 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: he passes in the league. If you had Cooper rushback there. 75 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: So I think the coaching staff wanted wanted somebody there 76 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: they could trust, and the move is great. I mean 77 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: I fully expect Dac to be there. I fully expect 78 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: Dac to be the starter. Um, but to have, you know, 79 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: to have Dolphin there behind him is fantastic. I think 80 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: it's a great Kurt. You sound great, Kurt, so great? 81 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: He sounds good, Kurt, Oh my god, happen. Hey, I 82 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: don't like tags. I told Yell had a long time ago. 83 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: I hate tags. He's a future of Yo, He's a future, 84 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: he's the franchise quarterback. I hate tags. Tags. I mean 85 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: you want step away from not being a part of 86 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: that future. I hate him. Now get him signed. He's 87 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: the future here, Okay, but I don't. It's a great 88 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: insurance policy even if whether he's signs or not great 89 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: And I've always I've always liked Dalton. I've always thought 90 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: that he was underrated. I think he could start for 91 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's that middle lower end of 92 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: that middle tier quarterbacks. And I've always wondered why they've 93 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: never valued they value the kicker position more here. It 94 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: seems like at the Cowboys and they do the backup 95 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: quarterback position, they've never had a you know, I guess 96 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Matt Castle could have been your you know, I guess 97 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: backup or high quality backup if you want to say that. 98 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: But I've always wondered why they haven't had a legit 99 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: backup at that position. And does that speak to the 100 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: talent they think that they put together on offense to 101 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: where if something does happen to Dak, you insert this 102 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: guy and yeah, there's there's probably a little bit. There's 103 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: gonna be some drop off. But this guy, with the 104 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: town that's around him can drive this bus, if not 105 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more, and continue to win you games 106 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: and not just you know, hold service until that gets back. 107 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: Is that kind of how you guys view this? Or 108 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: do you view this? Is a hey, the circuses in 109 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: town quarterback controversy. When we get the training camp, you 110 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: know everything's up for grabs. What what are we looking 111 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: at here? Jess Jessey jes This is move And I 112 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: love the way n he started naming people the order 113 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: in which he named them. He named Stephen Jones first. 114 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: This is a power chess move by Stephen Jones and company. 115 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: One thing for certain, Two things for sure. The nature 116 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: in which the Dallas Cowboys operate has changed. It has changed. 117 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: And this is a move where two weeks ago Rain 118 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Dakota Prescott had every bit of leverage. And I know 119 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: there's people out there saying, oh, this isn't a leverage move. 120 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: This isn't stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. 121 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Now it's Stephen Jones gonna come out and say, yep, 122 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: this is a leverage move. No, he's not gonna say that. No, 123 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: one's gonna say that. But coming into a couple of 124 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: days ago, you had a franchise with a wealth of 125 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: offensive talent. I mean you talk about talent out the wazoo. 126 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: You have a quarterback who has been going back and 127 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: forth with you in negotiations all off season, all throughout 128 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: the year about years, not the dollar amounts, about the 129 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: years that he wants on his contract. It's all we 130 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: all know. Dak wants to be able to get four 131 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: years in and be back at the table in four 132 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: years while he's thirty years old. While the TV money 133 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: has went up by the Shaun Bass and and and 134 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: and and Patrick Mahomes and maybe Lamar Jackson has changed 135 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: the market. He wants to be able to go ahead 136 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: it and get there and double dip and not have 137 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: to come back in six years to get a new 138 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: deal when he's in his thirties, and they trying to 139 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: play that your plus thirty rule. You're not having an 140 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: OTAs and off physics. So you really can't physically develop 141 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Mike McCarthy, who's a quarterback guru, can't get 142 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: his hands physically on a quarterback, whether that be Then 143 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: Natucci or whether it was Cooper Rush or whoever it 144 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: may have been. So they had to do everything now virtually, 145 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: and from what we're hearing it's kind of vague, but 146 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: that's not showing up for the Zoom meetings. Whatever, I 147 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: get it, I understand it. And no, you can't hold 148 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: out if you're not having a contract. If you don't 149 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: have a contract, he ain't sign a contract, so he's 150 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: not holding out. He just currently not under contract. But 151 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: this is a power move. This is this is a 152 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: move saying that we love you and you're gonna be 153 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: our future, but don't think you're gonna hold us hostage. 154 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: And we're going to go into this season and not 155 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: having a capable guy to run this team, and Andy 156 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: Dalton is not going to take Dak Prescott's job. When 157 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: the moment that Prescott decides to sign his contract or 158 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: tender or whatever it is that he has to sign, 159 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,239 Speaker 1: he is now QB one period. There is no quarterback competition, 160 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: but there is a leverage play saying okay, your move, now, 161 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: here's our deal and if you don't want to show up, cool. 162 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: We got enough talent offensively on this team that even 163 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: with a bad Andy Dalton he can go and win 164 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: us eight or nine football games, and we have a 165 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: coach that's going to be able to coach us to 166 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: a victory or two. It ain't the way the old 167 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: way used to be, where if we didn't have our 168 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: starting guys that it was all downhill. We have a 169 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: coach that's going to be able to coach us to 170 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: a win or two throughout the season. We have a 171 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: roster that's going to give us a significant chance to 172 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: win every single game that we're going to be in, 173 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: especially offensively. And now for the quarterback, this ship is 174 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. What he you know, the first round pick 175 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: that he was eight nine years ago. No, but with 176 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: this talent, with this talent, hell, I can go out 177 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: there and win it's six or seven games with this talent. 178 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: With let's see it. Let's see man. Listen, hand off 179 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: the zeke angle bean no more eight man nine man boxes. 180 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: I can. I can hand the ball off the zeke. 181 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: I can throw hitch routs all day to Martin Cooper 182 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: and throw faith rout to Galloping and lie cd Land 183 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: to work over in the middle and get the ball 184 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: to Blake. I mean it ain't, it won't. It should 185 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: not be very hard for a quarterback of Andy Dalton's caliber, 186 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: if he has to start under center to get victories 187 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: in this offense. Mike McCarthy's just to play devil's advocate, 188 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: because I agree, I think Dak's QB one as soon 189 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: as he steps on the you know, signs his contract 190 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: or whatever. But we've always been talking about heans to 191 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: make this his team, and we've maybe seen Dalton carry 192 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: that role with the Bengals. Is there any scenario that's 193 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: the only way does a chess power move? And in 194 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: the words, I'm an old uh Atlanta spiritual, this was 195 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: the Jones family saying, nuck. If you buck, nuck, if 196 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: you buck, if you if you think, if you think 197 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: we won't start somebody else, if you don't want to sign, nuck, 198 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: if you buck goad nuck, if you if you acting foggy, 199 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: didn't leap, If you want to act foggy, didn't leap. 200 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: But we're okay if you decide to act froggy. We've 201 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: now got a guy who we can put in here 202 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: and that's going to be able to sustain us. It won't. 203 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: We all know, if Cooper Rush was playing quarterback, it 204 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: was going to be bad. Even with this talent. But 205 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: with Andy Dog, it's more the Jones just have said, cool, 206 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: that we have given you a fair offer and what 207 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: we feel is a fair offer. Now it may not 208 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: be the years that you want, and you may want 209 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: to hold out. You may not want to sign. You 210 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: may want to sit home for a little while, see 211 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: how this plays out. Cool. What you won't do was 212 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: handicap us with Cooper Rush under center. We went and 213 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: got a guy who can now who you know and 214 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: I know, and we all know that he can. He's 215 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: capable enough of getting under centner and doing something of 216 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: positivity with this offense. So Nouk, if you buck, if 217 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: you if you if you fog enough, then leap and 218 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: not sign a deal that we want to give you 219 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: a bottom line. The bottom line is Coach McCarthy, along 220 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: with the rest of them, Jones's family and Will McClay 221 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: woke up and said, we hired mccarthur to come in 222 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: here and win. Now. How can we say we hired 223 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: mccarthur to win now with Cooper cup fun enough and 224 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: we put in his virtual practices or whatever that made 225 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: me h And this kid may or may not be 226 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: looking or not looking enough is enough if you're about winning, 227 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: give me somebody that we know has been to the 228 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: playoffs out of his eight years, maybe five or six 229 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: times since. And that is to blame to a lot 230 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: of those first round knockouts. But Dallas is fair no better. 231 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: And this kid may come in here with the right 232 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: coaching and if Dak don't sign this contract, lead these 233 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: guys somewhere or either holding ship down good enough until 234 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: he gets back me. Like I said, I'm not getting 235 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: into the contract deal. Look at it from a basic 236 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: point of view. Would you want to go into the 237 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: season with this amount of offensive talent with Cooper Rush? Now, 238 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've always believed that you play your second 239 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: team guy. You give him all the snaps. You don't 240 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: play around in preseason, you don't play around during training camp. 241 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: You had that one guy taking all the snappers. If 242 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: he's a young guy, you don't have to do that 243 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: with this kid here, This kid here, and the Dalton 244 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: is ready, he is, he is more than and ready. 245 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Just for two or three years ago, the kid was 246 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: an all pro. So I'm not hearing it y'all haggle 247 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: over the power moves and the chess move. Now I 248 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: feel good at the backup position and now at the 249 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: starting position that this team is gonna go forward. I 250 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: just I just hope that they can get whatever the 251 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: problem is with the rest of the contract that's on them. 252 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Do you think this is a question? I mean, I 253 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: think it's a great move. I did not see it coming. 254 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think they would do this, whether it's a 255 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: power move or not. Like I said, I've always wondered 256 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: why they haven't put much value in the backup position. 257 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I think I think on several different levels, this was 258 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: an awesome move and it makes me want to know. Nate. 259 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: This is for you and Jesse. The locker room. The 260 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: locker room effected this Dad. Let's just say, Dad, he 261 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: does sign and you go to training camp. Now for 262 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: the first time since Dak's been here, you got a 263 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: guy that's a legit quarterback in the NFL that can 264 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: come in and win you games. Um then move the 265 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: ball down the field. Is there any negative or adverse 266 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: effect of this guy being there if Dad does sign 267 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: for both in camp? Any what's going on in the 268 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: locker room the first time that has games? Is there 269 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: any chirping? How does that work? Not? Because you are 270 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna be like dad has two bad games. It's gonna 271 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: be like put it in the red rocket. Let's go, 272 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: let's go, let's say. Let me say this right here. Man, 273 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: you get this due thirty one million dollars. And don't 274 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: believe any that that is a bad oldman for your 275 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: for your for management. I just get you thirty one 276 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: million dollars. You lost a couple of games. Oh, we're 277 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: gonna start the other guy when Diday you do that, 278 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: Just go on and cut it. That ain't gonna be 279 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: from that ain't gonna be forgotten by the player. Man. 280 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Everybody keeps saying, franchise quarterback, 281 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: am I had soft to Tampa Bay. We signed Tom 282 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Brady by Winston. We don't want you no more. Uh. 283 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: The guy from San Diego that signed with the coach. 284 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: The better teams, the teams that know what they want, 285 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: they don't play games. Yes, this is a move to 286 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: solidify the quarterback position and the Dalton, but they ain't 287 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: playing that game. If that come in and signed its tender, 288 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: they're not playing that game. If he signed the long 289 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: term deal, they are not playing that game. Because once 290 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: you play that game with that amount of money. Why 291 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: did you even why did you even sign it? Why 292 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: did you even come into camp? If you're gonna play 293 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: that game, that's that's a dangerous game. Man. You would 294 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: split your locker room and the quarterbacks don't have nothing 295 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: to do with it. Yeah, that's true. So how does 296 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: this affect that? Because this feelings hurt? Now? Who cares? No, No, 297 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: I know that now. I do believe this. I do 298 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: believe that the professional locker room and I mean I 299 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: I just don't meet football, I mean all professional sports. 300 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: You have some of the most fragile egos that you'll 301 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: ever find on the faces of the earth. And all 302 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: these big, strong athletes that we all praise and put 303 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: on this high pedestal, there are a bunch of dudes 304 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: who we cheer for every single game Sundays on Mondays 305 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: or whatever, who have the most fragile egos. I think 306 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: for Dak, he understands the business. Again, not to belabor 307 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: a sad point, I think Dak is going through a 308 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: little bit more on his mind right now. But what 309 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: he just dealt with the week or two ago with 310 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: his brother passing, and he's looking at this as maybe 311 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: another challenge, maybe maybe, and also guys in the locker room, 312 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: they always find ways to add chips. How can how 313 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: can the chip on my show to get a little 314 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: bit bigger. You know, we've been all watching this Last 315 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: Dance document and we've seen how the great Michael Jordan 316 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: he would find anything to drive him, anything to motivate him. 317 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: So for me, I think for Dak this is that's 318 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: just more of a motivation to come back and be 319 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: better than ever, so that you know, after this year, uh, 320 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: if you don't get a deal done in a franchise, 321 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: if he can come back, have a greater year and 322 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: come back to the table again and say, you know 323 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: now I want now, I really want forty. Now now 324 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: forties not even forty was a negotiation number before. Now 325 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: it's my hard number. Now I want forty because you 326 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: you know you you thought I wasn't worth it a 327 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: year or so ago. Now I prove it to you. 328 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: We got to an NFC championship, but we got to 329 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl or whatever it may be, and and 330 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: now I want I really want it. But I don't 331 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: think this, I don't think this bothers Dak. I don't 332 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: think it messages with the locker room. Those are that 333 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: guys Like all those guys in that locker room, the 334 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: faces of this team, Zeke Amari, Michael Galla, you know, 335 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith and all those guys, they're they're like this 336 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: with Dak. They're they're they're a band of brothers right now. 337 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: So anti any Dalton come into this mix, you know, 338 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: he can only help the locker room with being, you know, 339 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: a good person like everyone that said he's been no, no, 340 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: not one person from the Cincinnati organization or players has 341 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: said anything negative about Andy Dalton and his leadership. So 342 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: he can come in and just continue the positivity. But 343 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: I just think this is this is Dak football team, 344 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: and everybody in that locker room, especially those guys offensively, 345 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: they believe in that. You know. Well, like I say, man, 346 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: right about now, Dak and his people, his agent, his group, 347 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: however you want to put it, they knew they wan't 348 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: gonna win every psychological battle or every leverage move. They 349 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: knew sooner or later they're like, okay, I'm quite sure 350 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: his people smiling to say, now they're gonna sign somebody here. 351 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: It just depends on who they're gonna sign. Whether we 352 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: have to take a look at it, or not when 353 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: any dolts, they may look at them and that one. 354 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: We gotta look at this, you know, maybe maybe a 355 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: different way. Maybe we give a little bit here, take 356 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: a little bit there. But once again, I will repeat 357 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: over and over. Did you really really want to take 358 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to Dak being behind and not being a 359 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: part of this If all of this virus stuff breaks 360 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: and these guys get a chance to do something physically, 361 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: would you really like to see Dak not there in 362 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Cooper rush leading them saying yeah, but that's that's that's 363 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: two level wins right there. Come on, our fellas. This 364 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: is like Jesse said, this is this is real those 365 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: football now this ain't this ain't waiting to see this 366 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: is like we're moving forward. We have responsibility to fifty 367 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: some other guys in that locker room to give them 368 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: the opportunity to win. We can't keep telling the fans 369 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: and the players, okay, okay, when we get it perfect, 370 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: we'll be ready to run. Can't work that way every year. 371 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: Well sounds like it's unanimous, don't hanging with the boys. 372 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: We like it. We think it's a positive power move. 373 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: When we can pay the bills and stay on the air. 374 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: So we're gonna do that right now. We will take 375 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: a break. 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All right, fellas, Daryl Worley was 425 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: signed over the weekend. Does he bring anything to the table. 426 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know much about him last week? Sorry. Um 427 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: with free agency in the draft, so they now, you 428 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: guys think they're good in the secondary? Does this? Are 429 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: we good in the secondary? I think we're good up front. 430 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: I think we're pretty solid in the middle. The secondaries 431 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: kind of got me worried. What are your thoughts? We're okay, 432 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: We're okay, We're okay. Defensive it doesn't make me feel 433 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know about the front. Yes, okay, until 434 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: you see what if coach Nolan comes in and be 435 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: as a genius and fits all these pieces together and 436 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: get guys to play hard and do the assignments and 437 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: to be a limit above average, then I'm with that. 438 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: And until I see that. See, like I said, this 439 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: virtual thing is all right. I mean, but until you 440 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: can lay hands on somebody, you can really go out 441 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: to execute that playbook and transform it to the field. 442 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: We finished bad last year and that's the only thing 443 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep remember that we finished bad defensively and 444 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: special teams body. Yeah, I mean, you can get all 445 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: the guys you want to see you put the pieces 446 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: together and let them bond. We don't know Westman to 447 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: happen here. There's a lot of question marks for sure. Kurt. 448 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: What's your problem with the front? Well, I just you know, 449 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: I hope it looks good on paper. I mean, but 450 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, Lawrence was banged up some last year. You've 451 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: got they definitely strengthened the defensive tackles, but they're both 452 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: thirty something, and you know, are they gonna last? You 453 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: hope they can rotate it in out Do you know 454 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: who you're right? Defensive end is for sure? I mean 455 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: I hope there's uh, I hope there's a lot of 456 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: pressure there, but you know, like Nate said, until we 457 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: see it, it's just kind of hard to know right now. 458 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: And even even the back in I mean, I kind 459 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: of like what they've done. They've picked up some guys 460 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: and maybe play safety or corner. You know, they think 461 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: maybe a Woozier can move back to safety. It's a 462 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: lot of talk about that. Um as to the bench, No, no, no, 463 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: well that's the question. I mean, it seems like they're 464 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: a lot on somebody got to go to the bench. 465 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: I know there that seems to be the question mark. 466 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: They're putting a lot on the Reliant, a lot on 467 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: Clinton Dix and uh in the woods to stand up 468 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: and you know, on paper again they should. But they're 469 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: also talking about Ken and Woozier play safety, Ken, this 470 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: new kid worldly play safety. I mean, they don't seem 471 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: to know for sure, so why should we. Jesse rank 472 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: rank one to three most confident to least confidence defensive 473 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: the front, the middle, and the back end. You just 474 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: named it. The front, the middle, the back end, Um, 475 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: I I would say the front, the back, end, the middle, 476 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: because I'm still not sure what Layton vander esh is 477 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: as far as a line back with the neck injury. 478 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Come on, I don't, I don't. I don't see how 479 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: that ever gets better. Um. Hopefully Jalen now with some 480 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: big boys in front of him, will get back to 481 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: the roaming and tackling machine that he once was. And 482 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: we know that Sean Lee from the shoulders up. We 483 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: know that he's the best at that when it comes 484 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: to the mental part of the game, but his body 485 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: has failed him so much and his career we don't know. 486 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: And you know, with the way the league is going, 487 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: will he be on the feel a lot? Will he 488 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: be trying to cover? We don't. We don't know all 489 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: the basics of it. But I think this defense is okay, 490 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: and it can be It can be better than okay, 491 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: It can be well above average. One. Bringing all these 492 00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: guys in competition fellas competition that breeds excellent when these 493 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: guys know that I'm just not going to be able 494 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: to show up and have a job that I actually 495 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: have to study, that I actually have to be here 496 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: on time every single day, that I actually have to 497 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: practice hard every single day that I actually have to 498 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: go out there and make tackles and make plays and 499 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: make interceptions and know my coverages and know my breakdowns. 500 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: That right there, competition breeds excellence, and those who can't 501 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: live up to the competition, you find a new address 502 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: somewhere else. But this team is this team has already 503 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: showed his hand on where its strengths are going to be. 504 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: And this team, with hiring an offensive coach, with putting 505 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: the resources in your offensive players, this team is going 506 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: to be helped out defensively by what they're able to 507 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: do offensively, and they're able to go out there offensively 508 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: and put up thirty thirty five points a game, it's 509 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: going to make life so much easier for the defensive 510 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: unit because they're not gonna have to be worn down 511 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: in these tight back and forth games. They're gonna be 512 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: playing from ahead, they're gonna have cushion, they're gonna have 513 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: ability to make plays and take chances because you're gonna 514 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: be up ten, thirteen, fourteen, seventeen points and some ball games. 515 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: And now you're playing with a much more loose and 516 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: a much more free flowing attitude. And when you have 517 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: that type of mentality, you're able to let your hair 518 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: down and go out there and fly around and make plays. 519 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: It's when you're always saying, man, I don't know. If 520 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: I take this chance and I miss and they score, 521 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: that might be the defining moment of the game. But 522 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: when you know your offense can go out there and 523 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: put points up on the board like it ain't nobody's business. Now, defensively, 524 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: you make the opposing team's offense one handed when you're 525 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: up ten, fourteen, fifteen, seventeen points. Now they have to 526 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: play a certain style and allows their defense to be 527 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: a much more relaxed, much more attacking, much more willing 528 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: to make plays. So I think this defense is okay 529 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: as it's currently constructed, but a lot of its success 530 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: is going to be solely dependent upon how well it's 531 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: offense plays and allows it to wrest more and not 532 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: have to play a bunch of snaps and teams have 533 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: him on the field for a bunch of times. Are 534 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: they playing with the lead, how much are they playing 535 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: with the league that determines how you play defense. And 536 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: of course, to me, pah Tishun, I think now for 537 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: the first time in the last ten years since Bill 538 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Parcels was here. Competition matters what you do in the 539 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: meetings and on practice in the practice field matters. That 540 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: eye and the sky. It won't lie, and it will 541 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: also be followed by the truth of the coaches. Before 542 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: the eye and the sky wouldn't lie, but it also 543 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't be followed up by the necessary moves from the 544 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: coaching staff that they had or at the HELM. I 545 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: think this new coaching staff, once they see what's happening 546 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: on the field, they're gonna make their destments on the 547 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: guys who should be out there who shouldn't be out there. 548 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: But competition breeds excellence, and you have that now with 549 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: this new coaching staff. Nate, this team was six last 550 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: year in the NFL, putting up twenty seven point one 551 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: points per game. You've basically replaced Randall Cobb with what 552 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: we feel like is going to be an upgrade with 553 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. You've replaced Jason Witten with what we feel 554 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: like offensive production wise, is going to be an upgrade 555 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: with Blake Jarwin. Can you or do you expect this 556 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: team to put up more than twenty seven points a game? 557 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: Jesse was saying a lot of the defensive success is 558 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: going to be based off the offensive success. Is that 559 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: a realistic expectation that you can you can put up 560 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: more than twenty seven points a game? And should we 561 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: expect that this year until they show us anything there 562 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: is That's the only way it can be right now, 563 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: that's the only way is that you that you are 564 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: averaging thirty one plus possession minutes per game, that you're 565 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: scoring around thirty to thirty five, maybe forty points a game, 566 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: depending on who you playing and how good their offense 567 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: is not to be able to get up get leads, 568 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: use zeke in a thousand and one ways along with 569 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: those multiple weapons that you have on the outside, which 570 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: is from your tight ends her to your slot to 571 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the outside receivers when you when they put the game 572 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: playing together, that's how they're looking at it. Hey, fellas, 573 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: Number one, we got to score. Number two, we got 574 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: to have a time possession. Number three, we got to 575 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: save our defense because you gotta have your defense, like 576 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: just said, attacking fresh and confident, because at least once 577 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: a quarter you want them to make some type of 578 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: play that would that would pay back your offense. So 579 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: if they're resting, fresh and they're playing maybe twenty nine 580 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: minutes at the most a game, between twenty eight minutes 581 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: a game with your offense controlling that ball and scoring. Yes, sir, 582 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: that's the only way you can play it right now. 583 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: Until you see these guys physically get out there and 584 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: change our minds by making plays, we have to assume 585 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: that's the only way you can do it. Kurt, you 586 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: expecting to put up more points this year than last year? Uh, 587 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: think about a Yeah, I'm still with I was gonna 588 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: stump you. No, No, I was points this year than 589 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: last year. That's the hard hitting stuff that wet. So 590 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting back in extra so I could hear still 591 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: still hear Nate talking, So I wasn't gonna stiff over him. 592 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: But I guess my question. I apologize if Nate touched 593 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: on this because I couldn't couldn't make out all of 594 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: what he was saying. But you know, we talked about 595 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: the offense or the defense kind of being helped along 596 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: by the offense. They're gonna play how the offense does 597 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. But doesn't the success of 598 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: the if we want to go from twenty seven points 599 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: up to thirty thirty three whatever. They're gonna need some 600 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: help from that defense. They're gonna need some short fields, 601 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: and they're gonna need the special teams to do a 602 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: lot better than did last year. I mean, I don't 603 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: know how much the offense can improve their points just 604 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: by replacing Cobb with a rookie wide receiver or even 605 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, bringing in jar one if they're not going 606 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: to get more help from their defense, and in order 607 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: to do that, they're gonna need more turnovers. They're getting 608 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: better special teams play. I think. I think a second 609 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: year Kellen Moore now the kind of the butterflies are gone, 610 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: and he has a better understanding of how to game plan. 611 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy is going to help that out tremendously. 612 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: But go back and look at what the Cowboys were 613 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: last year. Every every game that they won last year, 614 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: they scored thirty plus points. Every game that they lost, 615 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: they didn't. This team last year was built to score 616 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: thirty plus points a game and to win football games 617 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: in that manner. I do. I think this coaching staff 618 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: is going to do a tremendous job of having these 619 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: guys ready. The game plan, the execution plan will be 620 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: much better. The creativity will be much more evolved. You're 621 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: gonna see a much more precise game being called by 622 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore now that he has come into a second 623 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: year and now has an off season to kind of 624 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: look at his mistakes and correct them. This team is built. 625 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: This team is built, and you you know it was 626 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: built to do things offensively by the head coach that 627 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: you hire. I remember here in the in the reverse 628 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of way. I remember hearing the Ravens when they 629 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: were winning their championships and you you know, Ray Russ 630 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: tell the quarterback of the offense, listen, just get us 631 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: fourteen points. You get us fourteen points, we'll take care 632 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: of the rest. And as an when when you're here 633 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: that as an offensive player, you're like, well, I don't 634 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: have to force it. I'll just pointing is okay because 635 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: we have such a great defense when when it's reverse, 636 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: when you know, when you look at the Chiefs offense, 637 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: their defense is able to fly around and do different 638 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: things because even if they make a mistake, they know offensively, 639 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: hey we got these dudes and they loaded a K 640 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: forty seven and they shooting bullets all day long. So 641 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: even if we mess up, even if we make a mistake, 642 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: I jump arout, I gonna make a big play, and 643 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: I miss and they score. We got guys in that 644 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: offense that's gonna get the ball and get right back 645 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: down the field and put seven points back up. So 646 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: when you have that confident that your offense is going 647 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: to be able to do things like that, you're able 648 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: to go out there and just be much more free 649 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: and much more confident to go out there and actually 650 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: make the plays. That's going to change the course of 651 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: the game. Because, hey, fellas, we don't we don't have 652 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: to have those tight little things going on out there, 653 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: because if we if we miss making that play, will 654 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: we be able to score another touchdown again? Or will 655 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: we be on the field, you know for ten to eleven, twelve, 656 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: thirty points at a time. Nah, that offense gonna get 657 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: the ball back and go down there and score a 658 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: touchdown and we gucci. So I think that's going to 659 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: be much much, much different than what it was before. 660 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: It's going to be a consistent thirty points a game. 661 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,959 Speaker 1: And that's gonna put a that's gonna put a strain 662 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: on the opposing team offense to kind of be one 663 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: dimensional and have to score every single time. You know, 664 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at I haven't looked at the stats, 665 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: but I'm bet in those thirty points we scored most 666 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: of those games, our defense had turnovers. And so I 667 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: still wonder can they improve how much can they improve 668 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: the offensive in the scoring on offense if they're not 669 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: improving on their defense. And that I saw one of 670 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: our local guys reporters, Bob Serm. He was talking about 671 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: this offense is built to attack, and it has been 672 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: built to attack for the last few years. The defense, however, 673 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: has not been built to attack. The defense is under 674 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli and all that. You know, the guys didn't 675 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: play a lot of man, they didn't blitz a lot. 676 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: Are we going to see more of that now under mccarthur? 677 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: Is this going to become an attacking defense? And it 678 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: should have been an attacking defense? The coaches have changed, 679 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: and you you have to you may have to wait 680 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: and see what they got. What's the game playing going 681 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: to be? But the coaching has changed. It ain't about 682 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: being being being don't break. It's about schemes. It's about 683 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: fitting the scheme to the players. It's not the other 684 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: way around. So you're not dependent on guys to go 685 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: out and Okay, well we're in this certain situation. Put 686 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: this group of guys out there, they're gonna be trying 687 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: to dictate. And and this is about if you get 688 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: a lead, and you said, those play that team last year, 689 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: normally they would get a turnover when they scored them 690 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: thirty points. That's because they had a lead. If the 691 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys get to lead, you can play defense differently, you 692 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: can think differently, you can do things differently. So if 693 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: they get a lead and they do what they're supposed 694 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: to do, being up ten or twelve points makes makes 695 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: offenses act funny. And that means that you become one 696 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: dimension or now you know anything, look at the run, 697 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: especially being up ten or twelve points, and you know 698 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: that you have an offensive coach who's not going to 699 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: take the flow off the gas. See before we would 700 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: go up ten to twelve points and then get conservative 701 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: our coach that would say and say, well, let's let's 702 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: let's just ease up a little bit. Mike McCarthy has 703 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: that kill until he's dead. It's not gonna be get up. 704 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's not gonna be up ten points. 705 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: And then we're going to cruise control. It's gonna be 706 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: none Let's go up twenty points, let's go thirty. There 707 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: is no one to be, no breaks. It's gonna be 708 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: all gas until until we choke you out, until there's 709 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: no more air left in the youth for you to breathe. 710 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: Oh he's dead now, let him right. Are we gonna 711 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: see that on defense too? Though? Are we going to 712 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: see more attacking defense? I think so. I think I 713 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: think I think this team has to be more of 714 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: attacking And I think this is why you see a 715 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the defensive back helps because 716 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: look at the guy that they went in draft. They 717 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: got a guy from the middle. They got Bradley and Nah, 718 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: who's who's as in college? All he wanted to do 719 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: is come off the edge, trying to you know, trying 720 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: to reinvent Alden Smith to come off the edge. You know, 721 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: you know what Tank is going to do. 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What do you 782 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: guys think about that? Are we are we going to 783 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: see football when we normally thought we were going to 784 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: see it, and I gotta I guess a bigger question 785 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: than that with all this virtual stuff. You know, it 786 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: obviously depends on how long this goes on. Are we 787 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: are we going to see simpler schemes or are these 788 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: virtual meetings gonna get them up to speeding? Obviously the 789 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: physical part of depending on what training camps and all 790 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: that are able to start. Um, I want to termine all. 791 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, did we see poor tackling and 792 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: things like that? But as far as schemes, are you 793 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: going if you're a coach or you just going with 794 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: your normal game plan or are you simplifying things a 795 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: little bit until you can actually all get in the 796 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: same place and physically do these things. I'll go, I'll go, 797 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: I'll go, I'll go for to if it's if If 798 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm the head coach, I'm giving them everything. You got 799 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: nothing but time, Like what else do you have to do? 800 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm giving you all this information to study, to 801 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: take in to to to rehearse. I mean, you can 802 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: get innovative, innovative of how you want to do these things, 803 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: you know at your own leisure, But you have nothing 804 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: but time. There isn't anything else that you can't go nowhere. 805 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: You can't go on vacation, you can't go to the clubs. 806 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: You can go to you know, maybe to the to 807 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: the grocery store and back. You have nothing but time. 808 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: So I'm giving you all the information I possibly can. 809 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you everything about what we want 810 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: to do, whether that's defensively, offensively, special, changed, why, whatever 811 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: it is, Because you have nothing but time to study. 812 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: That's it. Turn off Netflix, put down the joystick of 813 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: the video game. You know, if you know the horny 814 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: part in football horny, turn it off a little bit, 815 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, and just go studies. I don't I don't 816 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: see why this would stop you from giving the information. 817 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: I know that some guys are more visual learners than 818 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: they are you know, actual you know, kind of playbook 819 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: type learners, or like Nate will say, I gotta get 820 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: out there and actually do it. But the information you're 821 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: gathering the information and download the information in your brain. 822 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: I want to give you everything, and then once we 823 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: get together, I'll determine from everything that I've given you guys, 824 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: one who actually has been studying and doing their part 825 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: in your profession too, who's in shape to do all 826 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: these things? And then I'll start to curtail things back 827 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: a little bit and saying, Okay, we can't do this, 828 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: we can't do this, we can't do this, instead of 829 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: starting there and then trying to build it back up, 830 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: give you everything, and then I can cut back. I 831 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: speak a little playoff of that a little bit. Nate 832 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: rookie minima, I said, rookie mini camps would be starting 833 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 1: this week to play off that a little bit. How 834 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: far behind the rookies not being able to get in 835 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: the building early, is it gonna hurt them? And is 836 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: it even the undrafted free agents even more? Oh? Definitely, 837 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 1: especially guys that that you know, new to this this game. 838 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: I mean, because they don't get to get the speed 839 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: of the game. A lot of times guys can gather 840 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: things and they can see things, but not at this speed, 841 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: not at grown man speed. Some of these guys, some 842 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: of these guys will be set back a little bit 843 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: by this. Some of them. It will take a little while, 844 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, but if they can get the training camp, 845 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: this thing will equal out, you know, this thing they'll 846 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: start to see They're like, okay, I got to pick 847 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: it up in practice. I got to do this. Oh, 848 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm all right with this. You know, it's just a 849 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: mental thing or seeing the speed and realizing that you 850 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: had the capability to match that up be better. So 851 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: but it's definitely gonna hurt some of the some of 852 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: the younger guys, veteran guys four or five years Come on, man, 853 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: they need to hit the ground running. I'm like jes 854 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: to give them all information and then you'll find out, 855 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: you know, within a couple of weeks, like oh man, 856 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: this dude dumb. Yeah, we've been up put that in there. 857 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 1: That them man, box of rocks. Bro I can shake 858 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: them up betting this cat man. Yeah. And remember and 859 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: one thing, Remember the Cowboys have that fifth preseason game 860 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 1: this year. I think if they continue to stay on schedule, 861 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna bold very well for the Cowboys because they'll 862 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: have that fifth preseason, that Hall of Fame game. They'll 863 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: have that to you as another another game to kind 864 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: of get those guys up to speed and get guys 865 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: kind of almost adjusted to the new life of the NFL. Yeah, 866 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: we uh, we lost it. Lost the good one this morning. 867 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: Coach Don Shula passed away this morning. Um nate you 868 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: being a Florida guy being around the league. He was 869 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: everything down there, man, he was everything when I was 870 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: growing up. He was everything them undefeated Dolphins, a killer bees. 871 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: Uh he won with the coach and took them to 872 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: the league championship. I mean he was everything down there 873 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: man espellingly when he got damn are know. I mean 874 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: he was bigger then than he was the two super 875 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: bowsy woman before he got there. So uh, Coach Schuler, Man, 876 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: I think I met Coach Schuler once, you know, and 877 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: it was just a very briefly because you know, I 878 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: was one of them guys. Man. You know, I like 879 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: to shaker got hand and keep moving, you know, because 880 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people be on it. But Coach Shuler, man, 881 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: he was he was important. Man. He knew he was important, 882 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: and he held his stuff and that in that in 883 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: that light, man, Jesse, who were some of the coach 884 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if we've ever talked about coaches who 885 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: were some of the uh the coaches you looked up 886 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: to when you were I guess a kid, and then 887 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: when you got older you actually got into the league. 888 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: Man as a as a youngster, I would say none, 889 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: I didn't really you know, coaches really didn't really look, 890 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, into that kind of stuff. And then as 891 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: I kind of got older and got into uh, as 892 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 1: I got into the league, Um, I was always again 893 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: an offensive guy, so you always look at the offensive coaches. 894 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: I think, I think you don't really start looking at 895 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: coaching until you're in the league and then you start 896 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: seeing different coaches and how they impact you and how 897 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: they're uh, you know, able to how they're able to 898 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: help you with whatever that role is. Most players don't 899 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: look at, you know, coaches as as a at a 900 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: young age. It's more so once I get into that system, 901 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 1: and then you see how a guy like Bill Belichick 902 00:50:54,440 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: thinks and you see how um, you know, coming to 903 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: play for Bill Belichick and his teams and now you 904 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: know things of that nature. So not really nune growing up, Kurt, 905 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: you have any, uh, any memories of Shuler or any 906 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: favorite moments he was coaches that you kind of followed them, Well, 907 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: I was Landry. I mean, I was kind of a 908 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan growing up, and so you know, Shula was 909 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: always a kind of this legendary figure, this kind of icon. 910 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: But I wasn't a Dolphins fan. At all, and so 911 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I had a dislike for him, but 912 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, he was just he was one of those 913 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: great coaches that I just wanted the Cowboys to beat 914 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: whenever they faced him Super Bowl, Bob Lily chasting them 915 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:48,959 Speaker 1: all around and bust it up, Bob greasy, Yes, coach, coach. 916 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: My My my question to Shannon, I don't I don't 917 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: want to hijack your show, Shannon, You're the whole thing 918 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: the show. So are we not gonna talk about this 919 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: number thing? A We're gonna let this this number thing. 920 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: Just for some reason, I can't hear you, Jesse. I 921 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 1: heard you say, but I can't. Are we are we? 922 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: Are we not gonna talk about this, this numbers thing, 923 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: this eighty eight being chosen. I am glad. I am 924 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because that was on my 925 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: list and I got sidetracked and I wanted to definitely 926 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: get your feedback in Nate's feedback. There's been a little 927 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of back and forth on 928 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: social media about uh CD Lamb supposedly wanted to wear 929 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: number ten. Mister Jones wanted him to wear a number 930 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: eighty eight. Um, we all know who won that discussion. Um, 931 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: you know what I want to get your thoughts. Should 932 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: you let the man build his own legacy and let 933 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: him go with what he wants or is there something too? 934 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: When you become a Dallas cowboy, it's different like it 935 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: or not good, bad, indifferent, it's different. And when you 936 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: come in there there are things, you know, we talk 937 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: about on the show all the time, the star and 938 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: mister Jones, and there's an expectation and there's a lot 939 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: of things that come with it. And this is one 940 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: of those things. Is hey, there's a story franchise and 941 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: eighty eight is a it's become a storied number with 942 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, all the guys that have ward it. What 943 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: are y'all's thoughts on Should they have let them let 944 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: him Cede Lamb pick his own number? Or do you 945 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: like the fact that they're putting some expectations and kind 946 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,240 Speaker 1: of saying, here you go, this is what we expect 947 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: of you. I don't want to know. Is this what 948 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 1: did Ceedee Lamb say? Did he was he against it? 949 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: He never said no. He just he picked ten. He 950 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: was gonna wear ten. I don't think he ever came 951 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: out and said no. I'm not I don't want to 952 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: wear eighty eight. He just said he wanted to wear ten. 953 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: So okay until I his Cede Lamb response, and I 954 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: have nothing really say on that right now. So Jesse, 955 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts for some reasoning? Well, well, when 956 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 1: he when initially got drafted, he said he was going 957 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: to wear number he wanted to wear number ten. He 958 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: wore a single digitate uh in college, and then all 959 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden it came out that, you know, Jerry 960 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: Jones played with a guy named Jerry Lamb and he 961 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: wore number eighty eight until Uh. It was one of 962 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 1: those things where it was like, you know, we want 963 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: that to continue. I would love for him to wear 964 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: it to represent a good friend of mine who he 965 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: played ball with in Arkansas. But I just think I 966 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: think the man, the young man should be able to 967 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: pick his own number, like like, give me that chance 968 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: to formulate and build my own identity. Maybe maybe he 969 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: didn't want the pressure of having to live up to 970 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: the eighty eight number. Maybe his thing was, you know, 971 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm a new age cat. I like the the you know, 972 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: the teens or or the smaller numbers. So I just 973 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: think a guy should be able to choose what number 974 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: he wants to wear. And then the famous words of 975 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, if you look good, you play good. If 976 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 1: you play good, they pay good. So you know, and 977 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: and and having your number means something like you feel 978 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: some kind of way when you know that's your number, 979 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: that's my number, and when I put it on, it's 980 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: almost like a like a badge of honor. It's almost like, 981 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, especially when you're a guy and you got 982 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: to choose your number. Some guys don't get a chance 983 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: to choose when you when you were even if, even 984 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: if for me as a guy who was an undrafted 985 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: free agent, like they gave me number sixteen, but I 986 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: had an option to wear it or not. But I 987 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: embraced it. And I love the number sixteen. When you're 988 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: a first round pick, you have options, And I think 989 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: I think being able to build your own brand is important, uh, 990 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: for especially delivered? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you do. Let 991 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: hit when you talk about AD eight. What name don't 992 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: you bring up when you talk about eighty eight, right, 993 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: Antonio O'Brien, Right, you're talking about him because he didn't 994 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: live up, He didn't live up to the expectation of 995 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: being number eighty eight, so there's there's an added level 996 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: of pressure to do it. And I love people that 997 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 1: you know that come into I mentioned and say, oh, well, 998 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin, Okay, it's okay with him winning eighty eight, 999 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: And I go, I love Mike more than anybody. You know, 1000 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: you guys or not, you know, but I love Mike. 1001 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: That's my guy. Nobody wants eighty eight to be more 1002 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: relevant than Michael Irvin. He knows that as long as 1003 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: eighty eight is relevant, his name is relevant. And Michael 1004 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: loves for his name to be relevant. So but I 1005 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: just think CDC had the opportunity to to start his 1006 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: own thing, to do his own thing. He will, I 1007 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: don't know, he will just get a year year all 1008 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,720 Speaker 1: those great eighty eight and the Cowboys did a series 1009 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: while back about the best player at each position. I 1010 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: think number ten was like Ron Winby or something, a 1011 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 1: punter from the sixty. So you know, I could see 1012 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: where Lamb would want to maybe build all that legacy. 1013 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: But in my heart of hearts, my heart of hearts, 1014 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: I do think ceedee Lamb wears number eighty eight this 1015 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 1: year and then next year tries to change and go 1016 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: back to his number just Anna, Jerry and his friend 1017 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: this year, and then go back to his number ten 1018 00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: next year if it's still available. If I'm ceedee, lamb, 1019 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: I keep that eighty eight, turned that number out, be 1020 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: rookie of the year, running this thing three four years 1021 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: and Jarry say thank you. Hey, you got a big 1022 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: old chick Sons. That's what I would do. That's what 1023 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: I would do. Well, Fellas, money he'll get from Jersey sales, 1024 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because that that comes into play too. And 1025 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: it's time for us to say goodbye. By the way, 1026 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: shout out to my buddy Scott. He's not gonna let 1027 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: me live this down. He's the one that sent me 1028 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: the article about the NFL schedule staying on track. So Scott, 1029 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: my good buddy, thank you for sending that to me. Fellas, 1030 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: it's been real, it's been fun. It has been real fun. 1031 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: Where the Cowboys are scoring forty points a game, they're 1032 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: averaging one point three ye per game. Yeah yeah, come on, 1033 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: come on, come on. I don't even know where to 1034 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to where to stop. There's 1035 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: so many pop the things that are happening this year. 1036 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: You're going to you're not no, that's Kurt. Thanks for 1037 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: bringing it, Man Date, thanks for bringing it. Jesse, thanks 1038 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: for being here. Everybody appreciate it, Appreciate the enthusiasm, the energy. 1039 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: Chris Bean, thanks for keeping us all the air and 1040 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: hooked up. We will see you guys. Thanks Chris. All right, Jesse, 1041 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: we come back on Hanging with the Boys. This has 1042 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 1043 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.