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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? Three in Out podcast with

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Speaker 1: me John Middlecop It's officially Masters week and thank the

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Speaker 1: football gods, we had a massive trade today Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: and I rejoiced, and I can't wait to talk about

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Speaker 1: this trade, as well as some thoughts on Justin Fields. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the show. We call it Middlecoff mail Bag for you guys,

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Speaker 1: long time listeners. You know the drill. Okay, let's dive

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Speaker 1: into the trade and let's start with the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: Start from their angle. They received a six round pick,

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Speaker 1: roll with Sam Donald. Diana Rassini, who works for ESPN,

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Speaker 1: the Kyle Shanahan people. Here's what she tweeted. Here's what's

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Speaker 1: interesting about Donald to the Panthers, Carolina will have to

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Speaker 1: looking for. They did pick up his fifth year options,

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Speaker 1: they're okay. Because Joe Douglas now his entire career. Because

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Speaker 1: it's a GM in the NFL. This is not baseball.

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Speaker 1: it was five. They went to four straight, right, and

426
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Speaker 1: they went to the one Super Bowl. But if you're

427
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Speaker 1: going to a f C Championship every year, like you're

428
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: in the fucking mix, that's all you can ask for, right. Obviously,

429
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: you would love to be the Patriots and win six

430
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and twenty years most teams you win one.

431
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Speaker 1: You're in pretty good shape, right. The Packers have won

432
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Speaker 1: one Super Bowl in a decade. They've had a pretty

433
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Speaker 1: good run. Seattle one super Bowl in a decade, pretty

434
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: good run. Like if I if I get you a

435
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: guy that takes you the f C Championship Game every year,

436
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances. And that's what Donovan did. But

437
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: you know the key with Donovan because when you really

438
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: kind of dove in, you found out that nitty gritty

439
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: like he had some flaws. He wasn't Peyton Manning or

440
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady picking you apart of the defense. Now, I

441
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: got better as he got older, but his physical attributes

442
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: were so elite. He went to a team with a

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00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: good defense and with a special head coach. Can you

444
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: imagine Donovan mcnaff he had gone to Cleveland or Cincinnati. Now,

445
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he would have been as bad as

446
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: Achilles Smith. I don't you Brown's fans have a better

447
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: idea what happened to him? Couch I was young, I

448
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to Cleveland Browns. Then it feels like

449
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: he had a Trent Dilfer vibe, like he had a

450
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: lot of talent, just went to the wrong spot and

451
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: then it just got derailed. I think he also got hurt.

452
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: But Donovan went to the perfect spot. Now, the differences

453
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: the Niners have been good a year before the Eagles

454
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: had been really bad. But if you're telling me Justin

455
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Speaker 1: Fields a five star guy who's six three plus, who

456
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: was twitter and twenty seven pounds, unlike Donovan ran a

457
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: four six, this guy's running a four one. He has

458
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: a massive arm. He's been productive. You know, I don't

459
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: think Donovan you'd call like elite character. But he wasn't

460
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: a bad guy. People liked him fun, You got along

461
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: with his teammate. Same with this guy. Like I don't

462
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: know if this guy is Peyton Manning, but ship there's

463
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: only one Peyton Manning I can live with. He's a

464
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: good guy, stays out of trouble, he works hard, he

465
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: tries hard. That's everything I've heard. Like, not everyone's a

466
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: raw rock guy. Justin Herbert's not a raw rock guy.

467
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: He just broke all the rookie records, you know. Not

468
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: not everybody guy is Tom Brady in the huddle or

469
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Drew Brees in the huddle. I'd argue Drew Brees had

470
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: to be that guy because he didn't have the physical characteristics.

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00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: I can live with a little more reserved. That's Kyle's

472
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: job to me. Justin Fields, with the niners. I mean

473
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: that to me has the chance to be a powder

474
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: keg of greatness. That to me has a chance to

475
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: be by far the highest upside. So you're taking the

476
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Speaker 1: guy that was the clear top two quarterbacks and this

477
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: rarely happens. Guy, there were one two in the country

478
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: as that I'm talking any position, and both of them

479
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: potentially go first and third in the draft, like that's

480
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 1: usually happens like the NBA, not in football. But these

481
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Speaker 1: guys have lived up to the hype. How justin fields

482
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: just by far outplayed the guy in the playoffs We

483
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: all witnessed it. Would he throw six touchdowns in that game?

484
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: Just throwing beautiful bombs. No one disputes the physical attributes.

485
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: And part of the draft part of having a quote

486
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Speaker 1: unquote high ceiling. You can't have a high ceiling if

487
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: you don't have high level athletic ability and physical tools.

488
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Part of having a lower ceiling and a high floor

489
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: is because your tools aren't that crazy. Mac Jones doesn't

490
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: have great tools. His best tools probably his height. He's

491
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: not fast, doesn't have a great arm. Uh, He's not

492
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Speaker 1: a good not a good athlete relative to high end

493
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Speaker 1: athletes in the NFL. So he's not running away from

494
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Speaker 1: anybody else. If anything, to me, he's Jared Goffy, Which

495
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: Jared's fine if he's on a great team and Mac

496
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: Jones for a couple of years will probably fine on

497
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: the Niners because the team is good, But could he

498
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: handle it for a decade Like that was the problem

499
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: with Jared goff Eventually, as you pay the quarterback harder

500
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: to build your team than what happens, you have to

501
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: carry you who can usually carry people high talent guys

502
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: younger Donovan mcnea app look at the league now, Lamar,

503
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes like those guys physical attributes are

504
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: elite and they can do things that other people can't.

505
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: It's the reason Rogers has dominated for a decade plus.

506
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: He has the best physical skill set. It's the reason

507
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson pulls things out of his you know what,

508
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: he's an incredible runaround athlete. Part of what made Deshaun

509
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Watson so special before his massuch issues which are still

510
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: in question, is he was a great freelancer. Like that's

511
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: to me, justin fields is very polarizing because I almost

512
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: think it's like too easy. It's like, can you guys

513
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: not see what the guy's working with here. So you

514
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: get a guy that's over six three the way it's

515
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: two pounds, built like a brick shitouse, who runs a forty.

516
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Just think about this. DeVante Smith did not run a forty,

517
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winner wide receiver, and he's not gonna

518
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: run a forty. You know why he's not that fast?

519
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: He ran a forty last year for Alabama. He ran

520
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: a four five. Oh now, if he had trained, he's

521
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: probably like a four or four or six. Guy Justin

522
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: Fields is faster than Deafante Smith. I will promise you

523
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: that you were talking about an elite athlete in fields

524
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: who has a huge arm and has proven to be

525
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: accurate in college. Now, like reading defense, does he need

526
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: some work? Of course he does. Peyton Manning through twenty

527
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: eight interceptions as a rookie, he needed some work. We

528
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: forget that, Like it's okay Aaron Rodgers was on the bench, Like,

529
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: sometimes guys need work. But if I'm a GM, if

530
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: I'm Joe Douglas, I'm leaning Justin Fields over Zack Wilson.

531
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: I want the chance of the guy to give me

532
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: the highest upside. I want to hit a home run.

533
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: I'm not looking to hit a double. It'd be one thing.

534
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: If you're making a hundred thousand dollars a year, you

535
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: get fired, your career is over, and it's like, how

536
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: are you gonna make money in this industry? That ain't

537
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: the case. These guys are multi millionaires, all of them.

538
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: Urban Meyers got unlimited cash. He's got Trevor Lawrence, but

539
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas, Kyle Shanahan money and an issue for either

540
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: of them if I'm both those guys, I'm at justin fields.

541
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: I want the guy with the highest upside. I want

542
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: the guy that has the chance to be a superstars.

543
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: The whole point of this draft trying to get guys

544
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: against be superstars. Now in the second, third round, you

545
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: want plug in place starters. I get it. You need

546
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: a right guard. Take a guy in the third round

547
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: that has a you know, lower ceiling. Okay, but you

548
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: you're up in the second or third pick in the draft,

549
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: you better be up there taking a swing. And I

550
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: go back to Andy Reid. He's kicking and taking swings

551
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: because you know why, deep down he knows I can

552
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: coach this guy up. Did it with Donovan McNabb, did

553
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: it again with my homes hell when I was there,

554
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: he kind of did with Michael Vick. Part of and

555
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: this is back to Kyle, part of being a great

556
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: offensive coach. You control everything with the quarterback, like you're

557
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: in full control of the play calls of knowing what

558
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: he's comfortable doing, knowing what he's not comfortable doing. You're

559
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: the artist. It's like, uh, you know you're you're molding

560
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: the clay. Well, it's yourn is on the clay. I

561
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: want the best ability to have the highest upside of

562
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: a player. I don't even think it's close. Like Zack

563
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Wilson's just his pure talent relative to Justin Fields, Like,

564
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Justin Fields is a better prospect now. Zack

565
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: Wilson today today might be a quote unquote better quarterback.

566
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: But you put one guy with a lake coach the

567
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: guy with more talent in three or four years. I

568
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: know who I'm betting on, right. Not Not every horse

569
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: in the Kentucky Derby flies out of the stalls. Some

570
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: guys takes a little bit to build up, and they

571
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: turned that corner, they fucking hit the jets and all

572
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you win the Kentucky Derby. You know.

573
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: So it's just like you gotta have a big picture.

574
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: You gotta understand, uh that it's not about what the

575
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: guy is doing right now, what can I coach him

576
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: to do? And a lot of coaches struggle to see this.

577
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of coaches are bad evaluators. But

578
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: to me, it's not even a question mark that Justin Fields,

579
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: beside Trevor Lawrence, has by far the highest upside of

580
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: the group. Okay, let's just fire through a couple of

581
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: stories that are out there. Uh, you know it really

582
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: today is kind of an indictment on Adam Gaze. You know,

583
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: the guy turned the Miami disaster into the Jets job,

584
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: and that he just became a train wreck. I mean,

585
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: he's a classic example of I bet if you were

586
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: just in a room with him on a white board

587
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: or with the clicker and film, he would know as

588
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: much as anybody, like I think, just football intellectual football intelligence,

589
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: like just what he has up in his brain and

590
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: his ability to articulate football just probably one on one

591
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: and understanding concepts I better elite. I bet he's you know,

592
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Peyton Mannings wore by him. I bet just his ability

593
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: to talk football, talk defenses, talk strategy, like how you're

594
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: gonna attack the defense. It's probably high end, but being

595
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: a head football coach, like, you gotta lead people. You

596
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: gotta lead men, you have to lead a franchise, you

597
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: have to have people believe in you. And it's just

598
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: the guy was just I don't even know, I mean,

599
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: a train wreck of a human being. Really is kind

600
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: of crazy how his career went from like, God, this

601
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: guy's got a chance to, you know, be one of

602
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: the best young coaches in the league, to know he'll

603
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: never be a head coach in the NFL again, I

604
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: see under no circumstances, Uh, would that take place? Aaron

605
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers is clearly kind of poking the bear, and I

606
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: will defend him on this. I'll never blame him for

607
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: doing this, because while he did have an up and

608
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: down season and there were some questions like is he

609
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna head the wrong direction in terms of his career

610
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: La Fleur's first year, they basically without telling him right,

611
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback to replace him, to wally pip him

612
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: to boot him out eventually, and he went back and

613
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: he won the m v P and they had a

614
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: home field advantage in the playoffs. So if you think

615
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: a year later, he's just gonna like kiss their ass,

616
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: Like I want to be a packer. I want to

617
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: be with La Fleur, I want to be with Gooda kids.

618
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm a packer for life. They literally just did to

619
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: him what the organization once did with him too far.

620
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: He knows so I he doesn't necessarily say anything specific,

621
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: but he continue went a McAfee show today. He made

622
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: some comments I can't even forget somewhere last week, Oh,

623
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: I was getting ready for Jeopardy, Like, he knows what

624
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: he's doing, and I don't blame him. I will support

625
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: him on this because he's got La Florin Goodikins by

626
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: the balls. What are they gonna do? They can't trade

627
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: the m v P of the league like he carries

628
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: the franchise and love you know, just might not be

629
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: any good that they're in a tough spot. He knows

630
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: it and he if I was him, I'd keep messing

631
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: with him. What was it hurt? I was reading today

632
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: about the NFL. They were pretty dead set on going

633
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: to London, and I think over the last couple of years,

634
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: definitely after Corona, they've kind of pulled back. I've always

635
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: said this. I've never been to London in or the UK,

636
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: been to Spain. I've been Italy, so you know general area.

637
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Speaker 1: I probably have the plot map, but just my question

638
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: has always been logistically part of football, like on paper,

639
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: like doing business. Right, the world is flat. Now. If

640
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: I was doing this podcast, I easily could do it

641
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: from the UK, right, I could consume all the football games.

642
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: I could record a podcast a couple of times a week.

643
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Nothing would change. I literally could pack all of my

644
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: stuff up, move to London without the NFL, even if

645
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: they never came over there, and do my NFL podcast.

646
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: And if I never told you I was in London

647
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: unless you followed me on social media, and even if

648
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: I didn't post anything, you would never know, especially if

649
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: I keep kept the same times. But to put a

650
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: team over there, you could play the games. The problem

651
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: is every year guys get hurt every week, so you

652
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: bring in guys to work out, to train on Mondays

653
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: and Tuesdays. Well, the farthest you can go in America's

654
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: five hours. If I if I'm in New York, i

655
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: gotta bring a guy from l A. It's a five

656
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: hour flight. But I usually figure that out either late

657
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Sunday night or early Monday morning and have them there

658
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: at the latest by Tuesday. Everything is within a five

659
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: hour flight and most times, you know, if you're midwest,

660
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: two or three hour flights. Well imaginely got a fly

661
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: guy from l A to London, is it like fourteen

662
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: fifteen hours? It would be logistically very difficult. I think

663
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: they're doing the right thing is just continue to build

664
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: over there and basically four games a year for the

665
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: next eight years, all thirty two teams will host a

666
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: game across the pond, and then I just think you

667
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: have years and years of data and understand if it's

668
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: worth pulling the trigger, because I do believe it would

669
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: be tough logistically to run a franchise over there and

670
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: just do business with the other teams here in America.

671
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I think you would be at a disadvantage doing it

672
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: now financially could handled I know, I get d M

673
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: from people in the UK. You guys know better than me. Clearly,

674
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: over the next eight years they keep selling out these games,

675
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: the interest there, I think it would have a chance

676
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: to succeed. The other key would be is like you

677
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: can't send a bad franchise there. You need something that's

678
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: just good. You need to send good football now. I

679
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need like the Green Bay Packers to be there,

680
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: but I can't send like the Jags the way they're

681
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: constructed and have been for the last decade. That would

682
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: be a disaster. You can't have a team win in

683
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: three four games every year over there. So I don't

684
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: know if they do expansion. I don't know exactly what

685
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: they do, but reading I think it was either Peter

686
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: King or Albert Brier. Basically the guy that's in charge

687
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: of it, oh is Albert Brier. I said that it's

688
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: probably very unlikely for the time being. We'll just kind

689
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: of do this rotation for the next you know, decade

690
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: and kind of go from there. And I think that's

691
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: the right decision. You can kind of have your cake

692
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: and eat it too. You don't have to have a

693
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: team there to profit. You can profit, You can do

694
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: sponsors there and just kind of rotate within the league.

695
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: That to me, is the safest bet. To put yourself

696
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: in a position where you do a move and then

697
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: you regret it or it wasn't a smooth never forget.

698
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: The charges shouldn't be in l A makes no sense

699
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: obviously Dean Spanos right now, there was that report I

700
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: think on Friday or over the weekend, his sister with

701
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: the trust. Obviously trust trust get very complicated when you

702
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: have more than two kids, because when you get three

703
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: or four and there's a business associated with it, everyone

704
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: has ulterior motives. Some people have more money than others,

705
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: some people don't care about whatever the business is when

706
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: you have that many siblings, Like I don't necessarily think

707
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: Dean Spanos is gonna have to sell, but it could

708
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: get very complicated. Unlike Dan Snyder that has an unlimited

709
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: amount of money, Dean is not a big money guy.

710
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: They don't have all these other businesses producing them a

711
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: bunch of cash. Now they have owner money and they

712
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: have NFL team money, but their team never made any

713
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: money in San Diego in terms of the stadium. Now

714
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: they in l A. They don't own it and they

715
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: don't profit from it. Really, they just get a place

716
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: to play. They should have left him in San Diego.

717
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: That was a disaster, and back to the London thing,

718
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I think they kind of learned from that. If they

719
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: could do it over again, they would have told Dean

720
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: keep your ass in San Diego. Cronky, you go to

721
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: l a Mark, you go to Vegas. It basically worked

722
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: out perfectly except Dean piggybacking off Crunky and him paying

723
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: for everything. It just it's not ideal, not ideal. So

724
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: the London thing I think has kind of got you know,

725
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: it's slowing down. We've pumped the brakes on that a

726
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Aaron Rodgers clearly going nowhere, but he's kind

727
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: of king of Needling right now, which I find very

728
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: very enjoyable. Okay, at John Middlecoff the Instagram handle d

729
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: MS wide open. I'm recording this right before the Natty,

730
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go finish this. I'm gonna go make

731
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: a little dinner and then I'm gonna watch Jalen Sugs

732
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: was the high school football and basketball player of the

733
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Year in Minnesota. He was a phenomenal quarterback, absolute freak athlete.

734
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: Offers Ohio State George Obama. I mean could have gone

735
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: anywhere in the country if he would have chose basketball.

736
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: His teammate high school teammate this like basically Kevin Durant,

737
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: but he's white in Minnesota, is also going to Gonzaga

738
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: next year. His name is like chet it's just incredible.

739
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: I was at dinner the G League. One of the

740
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: best players in the country, Jalen Green. He's here for

741
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: the G League and uh, because they paid him five

742
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: grand to skip college. I don't google his highlights. He's

743
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: an incredible athlete. He's like six six, He's like Russell Westbrook.

744
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: You can dunk, but he's a better shooter. Just a freak.

745
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: And Uh. I met up with this guy who's associated

746
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: with the G League team and we were just talking.

747
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: He's like, Bro, I've seen all these cats. Obviously, Jalen sugs.

748
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: This guy next year that's going to Gonzaga again. He's

749
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: like seven feet, white guy, shooter, bucking dunk. He's like

750
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in high school. Is just it's stupid. His

751
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: Google's highlights chet something. It's crazy. Gonzaga is a powerhouse

752
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: right now. School to see and for a West Coast guy,

753
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: I never claimed them. I've been thinking a lot about this,

754
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: Like we claim all the schools when they're doing well

755
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: out here, like Oregon football is doing well, U see

756
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: a hoops. We never claimed Nzaga like Nzaga's ours. I do, Okay,

757
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: Trent love the Pod. I live in Baltimore. But I've

758
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: been a Titans fans is high school. I'd like you

759
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: to look into something if possible, and my crazy to

760
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: say that our GM just isn't that good. It seems

761
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: like after malarkey firing, we've lost all of our first

762
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: round picks. He's drafted, spent millions on free agent bus

763
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: Louis Clowney, Beasley and wake let Conkland go, but kept

764
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: the Dory only to cut him before his ten million

765
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: dollar options due. And yes, we've had winning records since

766
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: he's been hired, but here's the kicker. It's because of

767
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: the angew Luck retirement. Every year he was the starter,

768
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: we've been swept easy, turning nine and seven to seven

769
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: and nine. What are your thoughts? You know I'm biased

770
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: on this one. I know John, He's actually been on

771
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: this podcast a couple of years ago. When I went

772
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: out to a bachelor party in Tennessee. I made it

773
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: a week trip so I could write that bad boy

774
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: off and I I went to his office, I went

775
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: to a practice. You deserve credit for hiring Mike Vrabel.

776
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: He fired Malarkey and went out and landed Vrabel, and

777
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: Vrabel to me, is clearly the best young defensive coach

778
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: in the league, like Robert Salda hopes to be that good.

779
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Andrew luck retiring helped, but he also

780
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: got Ryan Tannehill. Like Mariotta, wasn't this guy and he

781
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. So what did he do? He went

782
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: out and traded for Tannehill or signed trade for him

783
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: or signed him. They get traded for him, they sign

784
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: him to a contract. Like you've been in the playoffs twice,

785
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannhill as your starter. He drafted Derrick Henry, who's

786
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: one of the best players in the league. User of

787
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: credit for that. He drafted A. J. Brown in the

788
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: second round. Like, I I get what you're saying, but

789
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: I do think you're nitpicking a little bit. Like the

790
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: team has been good. I mean last year didn't they

791
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: hosted a playoff game? They won the division? Two years

792
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: ago they went to the a FC championship game. Patriot

793
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots. Who else they beat? And the Ravens.

794
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: That's a good little run. My name is Connor, longtime listener,

795
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: first time messenger. Found you on Colin's feet. College student Vegas,

796
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: but was raised a Bay Area fan, Niners, Giants, Warriors Sharks,

797
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: although much of my family went to cal Poly. My

798
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: question for you is, for the love of God, why

799
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: is no one talking about Justin Fields at number three?

800
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: It seems like all the big heads can talk about

801
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: is the interest Niners. Haven't Mac Jones? Have you heard

802
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: any explicit interest for Jones from the Niners organization outside

803
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: of Kyle and John attending Max pro Day The answer

804
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: is no. Justin Fields seems like the obvious choice of

805
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: number three if the Jets takes Zack Wilson. Kyle also

806
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: said himself, you picked the stronger, faster guy head to head.

807
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Something would seriously bother me as a fan, knowing they

808
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: gave the number three the three number ones to move

809
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: up to get mac Jones, not to mention he would

810
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: sit the bench for a year. Anyways, according to what

811
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Kyle said at the press conference, I hope that common

812
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: sense prevails and the Niners have just been trying to

813
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: keep a low profile about their interests in Fields. I

814
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: can put to agree. Also, could we be talking about

815
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: John being in the hot seat if a year from

816
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: now this doesn't pan out. I believe Kyle has a

817
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: little more slack in the situation since He's just a coach,

818
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: and his offensive seemed to work as well. Given the credit,

819
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: he's had a healthy starting quarterback. Yeah, I mean John

820
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: Lynch is never in charge. I like John. I have

821
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: nothing but respect for John. John's a high level guy.

822
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is the boss on the hierarchy of the

823
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: forty Diners. Kyle Shanahan's at the top of the pyramid.

824
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: He makes every decision. It's ultimately his decision. Now, John

825
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: Lynch tries to influence those decisions, but he's not the boss.

826
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: So if this fails, this is on Kyle Shanahan. This

827
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: is Kyle Shanahan's defining move as a young coach. Now

828
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: he's so young. If this fails, and as someone who's

829
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: built the business around the forty Niners, I pray to

830
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: God not only does not fail. I hope he turns

831
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: his team into a dynasty. But I'm biased. I want

832
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: to profit, but I've also been realistic. This might not

833
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: work for every Patrick Mahomes. There's Amos Winston's, Marcus Mariota's, hell,

834
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: Carson Wentzes and Jared Goff's. Now I'd take Carson Wentz

835
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: and Jared Goff. That means you get to another Super Bowl.

836
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, if this does not work,

837
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: it is one hundred. Let me repeat one one. I

838
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: can't put any of it on John Lynch. Something that

839
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: deserves a shot out on Ham or three and out.

840
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: We talked about John Wooden, Nick Saban, and Belichick as

841
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: the best coaches ever. Gino ori Emma at Yukon has

842
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: been a fourteen straight final fours. I don't even follow basketball.

843
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: That's insane, no question about it. Gino Oriema is an

844
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: elite coach. Gino Oriemma could coach the guys or the girls.

845
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: He's big time. Like he's just a stud now in

846
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: women's college basketball. You know, there are less elite players

847
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: than even in college basketball, and he typically gets the best.

848
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: As someone texts me the other day, actually, Mike, the

849
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: producer of this pod, it was like, bro, I had

850
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: a Yukon on the background. You should see this fresh

851
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: chick they have. She's dominant, Like he usually gets those,

852
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: just like Pat did forever at Tennessee. Like if you

853
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: get the Candice Parker every year, your team is gonna

854
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: be fucking good. You know, there there are only so

855
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: many like in college bat and men's they're probably Again

856
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: just feels like I'm talking out of my ask here,

857
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: but way more. At least, you know, double the amount

858
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: of true impact people, right, Like how many elite women's

859
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: college basketball players are coming out every year. It doesn't

860
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: feel like the same amount as men's and in men's

861
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: aren't that many. But he's good. I mean, he's no doubt,

862
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Uh. It seems like the Chiefs

863
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: have made some big swings in free agency and come

864
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: up short. The only one that really bothered me was

865
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: losing out on the big time tackle. That being said,

866
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: here's the thing, though, Trent Williams didn't want to go there.

867
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: He wanted to stay with the Niners. He just wanted

868
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: his money. So the Chiefs tried. They did everything humanly possible,

869
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: Like if your side girl want you to come marrier,

870
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: but ultimately you want to stay with your wife, like

871
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: you can stay with your wife, And that's kind of

872
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: what Trent Williams did. Now, his side girls really good looking,

873
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: you could argue better looking than his wife. Because the

874
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: Niners he played one season, they won six games. The

875
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs just went to Super Bowl. So I wouldn't blamed

876
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: him if he would have left, but clearly he has

877
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: a soft spot for Kyle. For Kyle, I mean, it's

878
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: really that simple. That being said, it seemed like the

879
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Patriots a fe years back were able to swing players

880
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: on discounts to go get a ring, and the Chiefs

881
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: are in the mix every year going forward with the homes.

882
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: So what gives with the Chiefs when they have a

883
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: class organization? Great, I just think it's hard, you know,

884
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're on the right guys. You just I

885
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. You know, the Patriots were

886
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: not getting Trent Williams. They were getting guys who were

887
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: a distressed asset, meaning we're in shambles, and they could

888
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: buy low. The only elite player they ever got did

889
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: they also pay a premium was Gilmore and they pay

890
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: they made the highest paid corn in the league. Every

891
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: other player it was like revous one year deal. Uh.

892
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: You know, all their type players were just kind of

893
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: in and out and not all of them worked. So

894
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: I I do not think that Trent Williams comparable to

895
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: anything to pay. The Patriots never got to Trent Williams.

896
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: Beside Gilmore when he was a free agent, they just

897
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: gave him the highest contract he wanted to leave the Bills.

898
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: My biggest dream is to work in the NFL, and

899
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: I'm going through internships and programs to help me get there.

900
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: Anyway you can connect me to scouts or just give

901
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: me tips to make my way there and beyond would

902
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: be beyond helpful. Well, when I got involved in football,

903
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know anybody. My cousin Kenny, was a long

904
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: snapper for Fresno State. That's I kind of went one

905
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: day to Fresno State and I got involved. But when

906
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: I worked at Fresno State before that, I sent out cold,

907
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: basically letters and called every NFL franchise and basically was

908
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: offered like marketing internships, and I did one. My senior

909
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: year in college at cal Pouli. I went to the

910
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: Kansas Chiefs when her Edwards there. I had an unpaid

911
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: internship for three months in the marketing advertising department. At night,

912
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: I remember sneaking up to her Edwards guy, and I

913
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: introduced myself to his right hand guy, and you know,

914
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: he just kind of helped put me on the right path.

915
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: Then I started reaching out. I got denied a bunch

916
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: of graduate assistant jobs at Stanford, at U C. L

917
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: A and Fresson State. I was lucky enough to get

918
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: my in as a recruiting assistant recruiting coordinator, and then

919
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: through there I got to meet scouts and I did

920
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: everything possible the network. You just have to find a

921
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: way to get in front of people. I didn't know

922
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: one NFL person. The first time I ever went to

923
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: an NFL game was when I worked in the NFL.

924
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: If I can pull it off. My dad was a farmer,

925
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: my mom was a secretary at the Capital in Sacramento,

926
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: New no one in football beside again my cousin who

927
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: was a long snapper at Present State, and I got

928
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: lucky that they needed a g G A job, right.

929
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have done, probably selling

930
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: insurance somewhere. I'd probably like unemployed. Probably who knows, I

931
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: might be digging ditches. As an Eagles fan, Eagles Nation

932
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: was and is up in arms about trading out of

933
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: the six spot. After whiffing and missing on the skill positions,

934
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: we were locked in on getting Chase or pits. As

935
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: someone who knows or organization how our organization operates, can

936
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: you tell us what the Eagles are thinking? It's really simple.

937
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: Five quarterbacks are gonna go in the top ten. So

938
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: if you're at six and you're not taking quarterback, which

939
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: they weren't, you get to twelve, you're gonna get a

940
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: top six or seven player in this draft, a skill position.

941
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: They need lines, they need a pass rusher, they need

942
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: more offensive lineman. They do not need skill guys. You

943
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: can find skill guys historically in that organization. Deshan Jackson

944
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: second round, Jeremy Macklin I think was picked eighteen, Shady

945
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: McCoy second round, selling fifth round or second round. You

946
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: you don't need to take guys in the top ten.

947
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: They were not gonna take Kyle Pitts it pick six,

948
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: That's not how how he operates. They also got a

949
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: first round pick out of it. So what if I

950
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: tell you they get one of the top offensive linemen

951
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: in this draft, or defensive lineman. Let's say Micah Parsons,

952
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: the sweet linebacker from Penn State. They got an extra

953
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: first round pick. So you get a sweet player at twelve,

954
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: You still have your good second round pick, and then

955
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: you get next year's the Miami Dolphins first round pick.

956
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: So next year, if Lance is good, you have three

957
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: first round picks for a team that wasn't gonna be

958
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: that good. You're kind of resetting the franchise. I like it.

959
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: You and Colin talk about how the league wants the

960
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: big names in the NFL to succeed because of the

961
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: fan base. This seems counterproductive to me. Doesn't it make

962
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: sense to throw the smaller guys a bone and help

963
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: grow the fan base I bringing in more fans and

964
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: more money. Example, the Arizona Cardinals were unwatchable and turk

965
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: until Kurt Warner took them to the Super Bowl. Now

966
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: the fan base has grown, they have become a must watch.

967
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, if you get Kurt Warner or

968
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, I'll put the car I'll put the Cardinals

969
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: on five times a year on prime time. If you

970
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: have a shitty team with Josh Rosen, you ain't get

971
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: in prime time. It's very simple. If you're good or bad.

972
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, the Giants, some of the big markets are

973
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: gonna get shown. They just have a large fan base.

974
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: The New York Giants have more fans probably than the Cardinals,

975
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: the Jags, and like the Titans combined. Right, Just it's

976
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: just based on numbers of people in history. That's not

977
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm not taking shots, but when your team is good,

978
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: like the Colts were nothing most of my life, they

979
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: get Peyton Manning. They became a household brand, and now

980
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: their fan base is big because they went from Peyton Manning.

981
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: Their fan base is huge. But they won for two decades, right,

982
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: So if you win, you get shown and then your

983
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: fan base grows. But some of these fan bases are

984
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: just built in massive, just have enormous amounts of people.

985
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: It's so it's like the forty Niners are good and

986
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are good, and they're both playing two separate teams.

987
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: If I'm the league that week, I'd rather have the

988
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: Niners in prime time than the Cardinals because the Niners

989
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: just have more fans. Now, if the Niners suck and

990
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are good, the Niners don't get shown even

991
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: though they have more fans, and the Cardinals and the

992
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals do. I think the NFL does a really good

993
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: job of that. If you're good, they you play in

994
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: prime time and they flex you. So I actually disagree

995
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: with that. I think the NFL is kind of very

996
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: equitable in terms of being unbiased. You just gotta win.

997
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: If you win, you get shown. You know it's it's

998
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: it really is that simple. If the Vikings are a

999
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen win team, they will get more eyeballs

1000
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: than the Packers if there are seven win team, but

1001
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: they'll just get shown in more big time games, just

1002
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: the way the league operates. But they are a business

1003
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: and they do make their money based on how many

1004
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: people watch these games. That's why all these networks give

1005
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: all this money. So when you get billion dollars from somebody,

1006
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: you gotta do what they want a little bit. So

1007
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: if like CBS wants to show the Steelers more than

1008
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: the Titans, like you just you gotta play the game right.

1009
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: Part of this is business. You gotta work together. So

1010
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: this is partly the league and also their partners. It's

1011
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: a big reason why Monday Night Football now is flex

1012
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: scheduling because the ESPN and ABC were like, why are

1013
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: we paying you all this money and you're giving us

1014
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: the worst games? Like okay, well we'll play. So what

1015
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: do they do they play? Caated they gave him better

1016
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: games the last couple of years. They now flex the

1017
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: end of the season. It's a give and take, like

1018
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: the NFL is king, but they still answer like they

1019
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: still need the networks, right, they need their money. They

1020
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: that is the lifeblood of their business. So if I

1021
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: need your money, even if I have, is more important

1022
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: than what you have. Even though I think the networks

1023
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: just say we're pretty important too. We're gonna listen to

1024
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: some of the things you say. And it's why CBS, ABC,

1025
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: NBC they have a lot of influence, you know. It's

1026
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: just let's not be naive about this. It's a it's

1027
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: a team effort. I'm a lifetime Bronco fan and I'm

1028
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: tired of them getting crushed. They're not good right now,

1029
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: but they are a top five franchise. You're very proud.

1030
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: They've been to eight Super Bowls. They're bad because they

1031
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: lost Bowling a half a Hall of Fame owner, do

1032
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: you know what the status is? His kids were fighting

1033
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: over the team for a while and I heard they

1034
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: were gonna sell. We need another Bowling. It really is

1035
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: powerful when you have a great owner. When you have

1036
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: a great owner, your franchise is never down long completely honest,

1037
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know much about the ownership beside reading headlines

1038
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: every once a while. They were going through courts and

1039
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: clearly Elway kind of basically taking a step back putting

1040
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: the new GM in place, knows I think it's it's

1041
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: up in the air. If the Denver Broncos get sold

1042
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: and just go to the open market, I think they

1043
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: would fetch three and a half four billion dollars. Denver

1044
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: one of the America's best cities. Like you said, I mean,

1045
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: they are an elite franchise in an elite division. You

1046
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: got the Chiefs, you got the l A marketing at

1047
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: the Vegas market. So it's just you got my homes

1048
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: Vegas in l A. That's a badass and a ton

1049
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: of history with all four teams. Uh yeah, I mean

1050
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: I I think if that if I had five billion

1051
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: dollars and that team became open, I would I would

1052
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: put five billion dollars on it. That's a lot, But

1053
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: I would love. I would love to live in like

1054
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: Cherry Hills, play golf with Peyton, eat at Elway Steakhouse,

1055
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: uh snow ski in the winner, watch football, play some

1056
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: golf in the summer. I'd like to be the president,

1057
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: not even the GM. I think they're GM that George

1058
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: Peyton guy is pretty good. Just let him make all

1059
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: the moves. I just chime in. Come to the draft,

1060
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: I'd be on the golf court. Wor's just text him

1061
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: some of my ideas every once in a while. I'd

1062
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: let him run the show. I'd be a great owner.

1063
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: I'd be a great We we need athletic quarterback. I'd

1064
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: be done with Drew lock I just so, I just

1065
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: tell him, go land me an elite dude. You have

1066
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: one job. Go land me in elite dude. I like Fangio.

1067
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: I would sit down with Vic and I'd say this,

1068
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: I think you're the best defensive coordinator in the league.

1069
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: What I want to do is I want to go

1070
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: hot fine to Sean McVeigh cal shanahan, and I want

1071
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: to make you the defensive coordinator. He wouldn't like that.

1072
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: He might be very angry, but I'd pay him a premium.

1073
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: I say, Vic, I'm a billionaire. I'll pay you up

1074
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: how much you're making right now. I'll just pay you

1075
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: whatever you're making as the head coach. Five million bucks.

1076
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: That's what we'll pay us a defensive coordinator. I just

1077
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: want a young, hotshot head coach, my offensive playgoer. I

1078
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: want you to run the defense, and I'll pay you

1079
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: a premium. Keen in life, you just pay people premium,

1080
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: they'll be happy Vick Vick, though I don't. He ain't

1081
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: driven by money. He would not be happy John. With

1082
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback price tax going up, Mahomes, Doc and T

1083
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: is having to pay big soon. Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore. Where

1084
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: do you see this going? You like my acting voice.

1085
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: Teams are committed big chunks of cap to one player,

1086
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: potentially hurting the team. Why don't they just draw a

1087
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: line and say we can't pay Baker Mayfield thirty five

1088
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: million dollars or Lamar Jackson forty million dollars. I understand

1089
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: the capital rise, but we don't know paying so much

1090
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: for one position limits the team's ability at some point.

1091
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Thus we see teams trying to win with quarterbacks on

1092
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: friendly deals. I understand the league can't colude against player pay,

1093
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: but it just seems like it's a vicious, vicious cycle.

1094
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Why even have an elite quarterback? Well, because if you

1095
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: have Mahomes, Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers, you win every year.

1096
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: The key is here is the key don't pay a

1097
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: guy who's not an eleague guy like Josh Allen. If

1098
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen plays like he did last year, for the

1099
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: next five years. He'll be worth every penny what they

1100
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: give him. Lamar Jackson, to me, that's a question mark.

1101
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: What does Lamar Jackson? Lamar makes like two million dollars.

1102
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: Lamar wasn't the fifth overall pick, he was the thirty second.

1103
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't make much money. Think how they've been able

1104
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: to stack their team. I'm gonna pull up Lamar Jackson's

1105
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: contract as I'm speaking. I bet there's a decent chance

1106
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: his cap hit this year is like one point two

1107
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: million dollars. Like, it's pretty easy when that's the case.

1108
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: What happens when Lamar makes his cap it's thirty five

1109
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: or forty million dollars like, and you can't stack the

1110
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: team with linemen and running backs. It becomes a little

1111
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: more difficult. Here's some food for thought. Lamar Jackson two

1112
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: thousand nine capit two million dollars cap it last year,

1113
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: two point five million dollars cap it this year, gone

1114
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: up three million dollars. They pay him in actual cash

1115
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: cash one point seven million dollars Lamar Jackson last year

1116
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: once Mahomes got extended, and because Josh Allen still makes

1117
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: way more money than he does, because he was seven

1118
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: picked the draft, was easily the best contract in the league.

1119
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Having a old Bowl level quarterback making under one million dollars.

1120
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: How do you beat that? I'm I don't know what

1121
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: you can do? Uh, you just you just gotta pay

1122
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: the elite guys. If you're not a top five quarterback,

1123
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: I can't pay a forty million dollars. And I know,

1124
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: like Middlecoff, what are you gonna do? Then? I don't know,

1125
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I'll franchise or something, but I can't give I can't

1126
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: give the huge contract to a guy who's not a

1127
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: top maybe seven guy. But I can't have my guy

1128
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: making thirty million dollars. And it looks like Jared Goff

1129
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: makes me want a puke even thinking about it, Like

1130
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a disaster. Carson Wentz last year playing like

1131
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: that with that type salary disaster. You need your guy

1132
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: to play with Patrick Mahomes, You need your guy to

1133
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,479
Speaker 1: play with Russell Wilson. If they don't and they're making

1134
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars, now Doc, if Doc is not a

1135
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: lock NFC pro bowler, it's a problem. The Cowboys are

1136
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: in trouble, period, point blank, end of story. If DA's elite,

1137
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: they'll be okay. If he's not, they got issues. Appreciate

1138
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Speaker 1: everyone listening. Have a great week. Talk to you guys

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Speaker 1: soon Peace. M