WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Problem at Kicker? 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.160 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:21.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.040 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.360 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:34.760 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:42.200 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:48.200 welcomes in their episode. Welcome to another episode of The Break. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.199 We are back here in Oxnard, California. How are you 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:56.920 guys doing great? I'm awesome. I'm so good. All right, guys, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.480 buckling your suit bell because you're in for a great 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.880 ride of it here. Okay, Cowboys had their first preseason 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.720 game and it was against the forty nine ers. Um, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.679 you know, these types of scores don't matter. It was 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.320 seventeen nine, forty nine years one. But that doesn't stop 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.760 fans to start criticizing and start talking like, man, this 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.640 season's gonna stop fire. Jason Garrett, he's still here. He's 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:24.040 gonna be here this whole season. So state ball cool? Okay, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.880 all right, let's do it. Damn yeah, I don't know. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.440 I mean, somebody's gonna get fired. It might not be 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.760 Jason Garrett in the middle of the season. I mean, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.759 could happened, that's true, but hey, NFL is a crazy beast. Ah, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.760 that is true. But in the meantime, he's here and 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.040 he's expected to be here. There you go, all right, Okay, 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.160 so let's go around the table and tell me your 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:53.840 stand out from the game. Nick, get it started. I've 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.240 been the guy that I picked that I've been talking 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.040 about forever. Had a sack in the game. Jalen jokes, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.520 not that I saw it, because I think I was 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.520 getting something like a snack or something. But I didn't. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.200 I didn't hear about it that he got a sack. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.200 That that would be. That would be kind of easy, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.200 because I mean, he's just a rookie playing well. Let 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.560 let me let me say, I thought Cheeto played well. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.240 I like the what Cheeto did as a starting cornerback. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.720 He was really aggressive on the ball, knocking the ball 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.200 down a little bit. Um. I thought, you know, we 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.079 hadn't talked a lot about him, which is probably a 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:31.320 good thing as a corner So Cheetah would be my guy. Dave, Okay, 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.160 I didn't know which order you want to do that? 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.079 Can I just okay? Whatever I could talk about Cheeto 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.760 played great. I thought Jalen Smith looked awesome. I thought 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.960 Dak looked really good. For you know, the four plays 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.280 that we got to see. I don't really care about 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.160 any of that. Can I just say it stood out 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.600 to me how scared I am of the kicker situation 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.280 for this team. Like that's if I have one takeaway 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.880 from the game. That's really what I'm dealing with right now. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.280 Because we saw it all last year. We've seen it 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.680 out here train camp, and it carried right on over 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.040 into the preseason game. Brett maher three or four three 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.120 makes that's awesome. Thirty five yard miss, that's terrifying. So 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.480 and we can get more into it. Like I said, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.040 I thought, I thought the first team looked awesome. I 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.760 thought the third team was awful. Everybody knows that if 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.799 you watched. But man, I just don't know. I don't 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.600 know what they're gonna do about this kicker thing. It's 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.960 kind of scary. Yeah, there are quite a few guys 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:24.799 I think. I assume we're going to get into that 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.720 a little bit more and talk and talking depth about 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.119 the kicker position. But there were quite a few guys 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.720 I thought that stood out and it started to me 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.000 with Tony Pollard just from a standpoint. Again, he didn't 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.080 get a lot of carries. But what I loved about 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.600 what they did with him is he had four carries, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.160 he had sixteen yards, and all of those carries were 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.240 between the tackles, and so we got an opportunity to 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.440 kind of see him working in that kind of capacity. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.640 I don't think that was a I don't think that 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.680 was for any other purpose. And for the Cowboys to 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.920 kind of put it out there that, you know, we 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.440 might be all right if our twenty one doesn't show up, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.680 we might still do you talk to Jerry Jones after 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.680 the game? Is that why he is? That why he 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.720 said Tony Pollard is capable of cart on the whole load. No, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.080 I mean like the whole thing, like this whole thing. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.120 From the beginning, it's been very clear that Jerry's out 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.800 there talking about the running back position, and it's talked 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.480 about him and when he when they brought in Alfred Morris, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.120 they talked a lot about all. You know, we've been 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.680 won him like we were upset that we didn't get 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.560 him last year. We think he's very capable, right, I 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.920 think all of that is playing into this whole thing. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.039 But what I will say just on that point, though, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:32.320 is I do believe that they at least publicly think 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.159 that if they had to enter the season, they might 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:39.279 be okay at running back with Pollard and the mashing 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.560 together of those other guys. And I will say this, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.880 I'm not necessarily I don't necessarily think that that would 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.080 be a bad premise to take. Now, whether you can 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.320 stand up sixteen games, who knows, but I think for 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.600 whatever period of games that you would want him in 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.400 there before you know, three, four or five games, I 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:56.719 think he might be able to be a guy that 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.200 could be pretty effective running in a lot of different 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.200 ways between the tip goes to the outside, catching the 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.640 ball out of the backfield. I think he might be 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.320 able to do a little bit of all that. Might 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.960 be a little bit worried about blitz pick up, but 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.400 other than that, I think he might be able to 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.760 handle the rest of those roles were about. Now that 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.640 it was a long sentence. Um No, I think whether 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.960 or not they're they're okay about it or not doesn't matter. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:19.800 I mean, because it is what it is. I mean, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.839 who who they gonna go get and the only guy 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.760 that they could really go get at this point. They 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.480 they got him. Yeah, they got Alfred Morris, So they 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.360 are they've already kind of done that. I mean, they 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.080 might be scared to death about it, but they're not 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.479 gonna say it because if they say it, then obviously 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.920 that just drives up the leverage for Zeke. So I mean, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.160 but I I mean, yeah, it was good to see 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.359 Paula do all that stuff and run in between the 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.480 tackles and that. But I mean, I don't think this 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.400 is a situation where they're like, you know what, we 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.040 might be okay, this team has been built to run 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.520 the ball with Zeke like that, So I don't know. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.279 It just reminds me of somebody who's going through a 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.440 bad breakup on like Instagram and they're just real open 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.760 about it and just I'm doing great, I'm amazing, I'm 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.880 at the beach, i'm the gym, I'm looking my friend. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.520 I don't need you. Yeah, like that's what the Cowboys 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.080 are doing. And I don't buy it, just like I 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.640 don't buy it when my friends do that. I'm like, 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.640 you're miserable. I Like, if you're posting on Instagram six 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.720 times a day, you're miserable. I'm sorry, That's just how 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.960 it is, and that's how I feel like the Cowboys are. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.640 You know, I'm excited about Tony Pollard, don't get me wrong, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.520 but like not to the point where I'm forgetting about 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.120 twenty one. I'm not there yet. Yeah, and nor should anyone, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.080 including the Cowboys. I'm not saying that at all. I'm 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.560 saying I feel like they probably are looking at this like, Okay, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.800 if he if he wants to keep holding out, we 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.760 still know what our budget is. I don't think I 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.160 don't think they feel like they're pressed to have to 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.840 do something different than what they've already planned to do 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.400 financially with him. And if he wants to show up 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.920 and play with that kind of deal, then he will. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.359 And if he doesn't, I think they're gonna hold a 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.200 line and be like, Okay, well we're gonna roll what 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.880 we got. Yeah, now, based on I mean, you talked 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.880 about the first team. Clearly they had they got into 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.479 the red zone, and this is again the preseason and 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.279 all that, But did it bother you or did it 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.440 concern you any way that they weren't able to get 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:14.200 into the touchdown area and score six points. You know, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.280 I wrote a whole column about that, I don't think, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.320 so it doesn't bother me yet. I'm not at the 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:23.120 point to worry about red zone or really anything like that, 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.240 because yeah, everything's vanilla. We know that. Defenses of vanilla too, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.200 I mean, and they're not trying to show a bunch 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.800 of plays down there like that. And then also what 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.840 they're built to run the ball and really push the pile, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.600 and they don't have that. They're running back in there 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.720 to do that. The one thing you can really look 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.880 at and go, this is something that will happen in 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.200 the game. Is snapping the ball, holding it and kicking 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.040 like that is something that like Maha is going to 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.120 be doing that same thing, same play call in games. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.760 And so if you want to be concerned about that, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.840 you can because that's not preseason to him, that's a 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.960 game and he's kicking. There's nothing yeah preseason about it. Yeah, 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.680 you know, I understand. I understand if fans have concerned 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.040 just because red zone was arguably this team's biggest problem 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.680 all last year. You want to see it look better, Yeah, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.200 and you know how many they got in there? Four times? 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.880 I mean, and then yeah, all the field goals were 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.560 short range, and I understand it, but like, no, I'm 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.160 not bothered either because it's it's not only preseason, but 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.200 it's the first game of the preseason. Like, you're not 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:26.880 You're not handling that as if as you would if 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.240 it were the season. They didn't game plan for that opponent. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:33.079 Kellen Moore wasn't calling anything that he wants to use 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.800 during the regular season, so it would have been fun 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.199 if they'd scored a touchdown. I'd way rather see Brett 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.679 maher kick for that exact reason. He missed one from 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.840 thirty five. I hope he kicks four in all four games. Yeah, 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.080 preferably more. I hope he kicks like twenty times in 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:51.280 the preseason, just from all angles and yardage and distance 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.880 and everything, just to get a very clear idea of 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.320 what we're looking at now. Jerry was asked about the 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.679 kicker position and I know you were in on that. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:04.199 What was his response to the whole situation, and he like, 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.959 I that was my lead off to the show, is 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.000 how concerned I was. Jerry Jones was like, that's the 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.280 only way we scored. I feel great about the kicker position. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.160 He's like, I don't have a different than I did before, right, Yeah, yeah, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.600 I would. I was kind of standing there. I was like, 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.400 it doesn't it doesn't bother you that he missed an 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.679 extra point. I think everybody's kind of like you were 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.320 expecting something, you expecting him takes something different, like, well, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.199 we would have wished it he would. He was just 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.800 kind of like the one. I was okay with it, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.440 that it was good and to this point, I'm not 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.920 trying to freak anybody out, but I like that's kind 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.120 of the organization. That's their whole attitude, Like they don't 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.880 seem as concerned about MAHA as everybody else does, which 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.440 you know now that for what it's worth. I was 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.720 by someone that works over on the football side and 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.280 I heard that person make a comment and was like, 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.320 damn kicker just in general, not only this one, but 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.360 in general around the guys that are out there in 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.000 the market right now. And that made me feel like, Okay, well, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.640 maybe Maher is their best option that they do have 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.960 right now, and that's why they're sticking to it, you 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.640 know how well, I know you've made it sound like, Okay, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.280 they got all this kickers chartered and this is the 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:19.920 next one. And it's not that far different. But that guy, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.480 that guy that's on the list, I don't know what 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.840 their names are, yeah, but I guarantee it's I mean, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.280 all of them they had their moment where they missed 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.760 a thirty one yarder or a twenty eight yard or 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.440 or something that got them out there. I mean, I 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.120 know that's Mickey's favorite line, as they're on the street 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.480 for a reason, but they are. But the thing about 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.599 it is, too is with kickers, it's all about confidence. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.640 You know. It's like they have the confidence. I mean, 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.240 Nick Folk was a pretty good kicker for a lot 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.160 of years in this league, and the Cowboys had to 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.719 cut him in two thousand and nine because he just 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.719 couldn't make kicks right there. He went on and had 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.839 a career for I don't know, eight nine more years, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.160 but right then and there, he just couldn't make kicks. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.000 And I'm not saying my HER's at that point, but 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.320 I mean, if they have to go get someone else, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.319 it'll be someone else that maybe that has more confidence. 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.000 But it's gonna be shaky all the way. I mean 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.240 it is. This game was no different than it was 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.520 last year. He was three or four seventy five percent. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.880 He kicked at eighty percent last year he missed. The 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.280 largest percentage of his missus came forty to forty nine yards. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.760 The next largest percentage came at thirty to thirty nine yards. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.600 So that's who he is, that's what he's been. I 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.080 don't know that that's necessarily gonna change, and that may 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.199 be what Jarry's point Moore was was like, look, guys, 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.400 this is what we got, Like, this is what we have, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.160 and we don't think there's anybody better on the street. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:39.959 You kind of have to just know that this is 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.480 what you're dealing with a little bit. You got an 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.880 eighty percent kicker, which means he's gonna make a lot, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.680 but he's gonna miss some and some of them ones 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.040 he miss missus probably have you scratched your head a 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:54.240 little bit. Now, let's get into two injuries that are concerning, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.240 because these two guys were guys that were performing wells 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.080 and they were having a good game. One very unfortunate 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.280 one is lud Geffer, who's a guy we've talked about 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.640 on this show for sure. What is the update on 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:13.240 his injury and what is expected to happen here? Um 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.520 I know he had an MRI yesterday. That not here. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.240 I haven't heard. It's a high he's got a high 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.360 ankle sprain. Um, that pretty bad one. The fear was 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.840 a dislocation, you know, right off the bat, and I 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.839 was down on the field. I just remember looking at 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.520 all of the doctors and trainers that kind of ran there, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.640 thought thinking, Okay, this this looks pretty bad. And it 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.360 is actually you know what I mean high even it's 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.800 a high ankle sprain. Those are those are tough. I mean, 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.640 those are those are gonna be four to six weeks, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.760 if not more. Um, So we'll see about that. Um. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.320 He's gonna be here though, I mean he's he's on 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.960 the team or he's on the team or on injury 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.280 reserve or something. I think he's done enough to be 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.240 like this somebody we can work with here. He made 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.720 a play or interception before the nature of the injury 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.320 ray is an interesting question though, because he's not done 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.280 for the year, but he won't be taking part in 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.800 the rest of training camp. So what do you do 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.200 with him? Do you put him on injured reserve right now, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.360 which ends his season, Like if you put a guy 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.960 on injured reserve during camp. He is, It's Cedric Wilson 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.040 all over again. He's done for the year, can't come back. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.640 You could wait until August thirty first, which is what 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.280 I think they'll probably do, is put him on injured reserve. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.280 At roster cuts, he would have an opportunity to bring 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.640 him back. You can designate two players to return from 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.520 my rs. So he would start the season on injured 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.000 reserve and you maybe see him in October. You know, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.120 the question that I have is, and this is what 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.600 they're gonna have to figure out, is when he gets 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.840 to August thirty first, is you know, where is he 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.000 Where is he on them with his rehab? Is it 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.040 coming along pretty good? Is it just a few more weeks? 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.520 And then also you got to look at the roster 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.280 and go, all right, how is this game going to 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.480 work for the Giants game? You know, say we put 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.600 him on injured reserve and we go and now we 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.480 have to keep this linebacker here like a Covington who's 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.319 going to be inactive. You know, if that's if that's 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.640 going to be the case for a few weeks, you know, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.800 maybe he's not on injured reserve. Well, if he's the 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:09.440 inactive linebacker one inactive right, Yeah, that's true. It's it's 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.240 tricky too. But you know, guys like you know, like 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.280 a Tyrant Smith, like he's not gonna be that big 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.320 of a part of most of these preseason games. It's 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.840 not a big deal to carry a guy like him 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:23.680 on the roster, But what do you do with a 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.840 down the line guy like You need guys like Luke 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:30.040 Gifford to play meaningful snaps in preseason games, So do 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.080 you need that spot? Right? Yeah, it's it says a 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.200 lot about how much they like him if they just 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.320 carry their seventh linebacker on the roster hurt for the 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.400 rest of training camp, you know. And I think that's 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.200 probably what they'll do because they don't want to risk 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.880 losing him on waivers, and they probably don't want to 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.880 shut a season down either. So that's pretty impressive that 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.840 an undrafted free agent could theoretically go two and a 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.760 half weeks on the roster without well, you take advantage 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.880 of these days here at training camp. I mean, he 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.640 did enough to have eyes on him. Sure. Now, another 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.600 guy was Cedric Wilson, who I mean he got any 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.800 illegal hit by safety from the forty nine ers, and 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.240 it was pretty tough. He was having a pretty good 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:13.920 game too. He was a guy that was that was 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.520 making some plays, which wasn't completely surprising because he's had 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.160 some of those moments out here. But he was probably 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.920 I would guess, you guys, tell what you think. I 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.200 would guess he's probably the best receiver on the day, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.400 on the game. If you had to say who play 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.800 kind of gave you the most plays, I would say 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.640 it was probably him. Would you guys agree? Back end? Guys, Yeah, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.000 I mean I thought Gallup was awesome in the opening drive. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.920 But yes, it's a good catch. It that Wilson made 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.760 over the middle and it was a little bit behind him, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.600 and you know it makes it a good play. I 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.600 didn't love it, and you guys, I think all were 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.800 up there disagreed. I didn't love the ejection there. I 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.680 didn't think that was a play that needs to be 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.040 ejected from the game. But um, I thought it was 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.680 pretty dirty. He launched him, yeah, like he like that. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.560 He lined him up and then went to get him. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.240 That play didn't hit him in the head, though, Yeah, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.320 that's beside the point. The guy was. I mean, defenseless 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.840 receiver is not necessarily about the head. You know, I 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.240 guess I just hate the defenseless receiver thing when you 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.040 when you're running a slam over the middle. I mean, 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.800 I don't just don't know how you're gonna be defenseless. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.320 You know it's coming, Well, you're defenseless because you're you're 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.680 looking back at the ball. And so what they what 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.240 they're trying to take out of the game, and what 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.240 I think what they've tried, what they actually have taken 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.760 out of the game is you cannot a guy that's 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.600 looking back at the ball. It's the same thing as 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.000 on kickcosts or whatever guy's looking somewhere else. They don't 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.040 want guys getting lined up to basically take the guy 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.600 out when he's not paying attention what's happening in front 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.920 of That's what Jason Garrett was talking about the other day, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.160 a kind of you know, a walk off. And I 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.320 don't think this was his words exactly, but he was 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.000 just basically saying that if you're not looking like and 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.080 then you get hit, like, are we gonna are we 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.080 gonna help you out for being a dumbass? I mean, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:48.960 I don't think he said it just like that, but 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.800 it's just like you're gonna be paying attention. Yeah, no, 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.000 and it's but that's the thing. It's not paying attention 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.200 as much as it is. The ball's coming, so you're 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.640 kind of looking. You're looking, definitely looking at the ball, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.320 so you can't look at two things at one time. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.840 And again this is this was you know, we all 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.240 grew up in a in a with an NFL where 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.800 that meant that you were looking back at the ball. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.200 And so a defensive back new, I get a free 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.320 shot on this guy. They're taking it. They're taking that 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:15.440 out of the game. It's just not gonna be a 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.280 part of the game anymore. Good safety play is one 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.040 of my favorite things in football, Like Edward Brian Dawkins, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.000 like those you know, Troy Paul Malu, love those guys. Yeah, 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.439 but there's a different Like you can put a big 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.400 hit on a guy going over the middle without like 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.960 launching yourself at him like a projectile and like actively 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.119 trying to murder him, which is what I thought that 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.800 what happened on that play. So I think you can 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.440 make a hit on a guy I like. I hate 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.200 if it's just a good, nice hit and you get 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.280 flagged for it. I hate that. But I thought that 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.639 was a dirty hit. So now, what's the update on 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:50.639 the injury. Last time he's in concussion. Um, so we'll see. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.000 I mean, they're probably not going to rush him, especially 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.640 not during training camp. They can't rush him. 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