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Speaker 2: I love today's show.

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Speaker 1: You know, so I got I didn't know what I'm

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Speaker 1: young hipsters on the staff and they informed me this morning.

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Speaker 1: And I thought this had a sports connection. That the

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Speaker 1: Android phone actually has better technology than the Apple iPhone,

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Speaker 1: but the Apple iPhone has better marketing and branding. And

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Speaker 1: what will happen is you know this happened in Teca? Apple,

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Speaker 1: widget features and a couple of years later, you'll be like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: Apple's phone's the best, and Android users are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've been doing that stuff. We've been doing that stuff

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Speaker 1: The hipsters tell me that Android phones have better widgets,

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Speaker 1: gadgets features than the iPhone. iPhones got better branding. And

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Speaker 1: I saw a story this morning, late yesterday, actually, Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers hired his old offensive line coach, James Campen,

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Speaker 1: who Aaron Rodgers loves to go with him to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to transform this offense. And I think a

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Speaker 2: The marketing and branding. I mean, you hear.

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Speaker 1: People say Pete Carroll he'll get Hall of Fame votes. Well,

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has the same playoff record as Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: canned once Pete's badding them up. I mean, Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: Carroll doesn't have that. So he is a good coach,

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Speaker 1: think hearing this news, I said this, it feels a

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Speaker 1: little uninspiring. He's older, he's a Pittsburgh guy, but I

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Speaker 1: ten and seven with an organization and a head coach

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Speaker 2: Years toned after offense.

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Speaker 1: And remember this, Mike McCarthy when he joined Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: You remember Brett Farv was like thirty six years old,

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Speaker 1: So it's like Mike McCarthy makes quarterbacks better. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Ian O'Connor, who wrote a book, a great book on

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Out of the Darkness, must read. The first

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Speaker 1: is amazing, he says. When he did all this homework

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Speaker 2: It'll work.

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Speaker 3: Their relationship is better now than it ever was when

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Speaker 3: they were together in Green Bay and Rogers said to me, listen,

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Speaker 4: Butt heads, but at the end of the day, we

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Speaker 3: And what people forget is Mike McCarthy changed Aaron Rodgers'

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Speaker 3: him into an all time great and never gets any

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Speaker 2: Ceiling for this partnership.

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Speaker 3: Probably eleven and six at best winning a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: It's just certain.

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Speaker 1: The android Mike McCarthy. I always said Steven Soderberg is

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's got one super Bowl Trophy like some people,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know why it necessarily is. I just

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Speaker 1: So like, I don't think it's as good as John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Maybe to the Giants, but McCarthy's record, in John Harbaugh's resume,

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Speaker 1: When Robert Solid got the job of the Titans, it's

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that will work for sure.

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Speaker 1: Now the Pittsburgh thing has grown on me.

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Speaker 2: So this week very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, We've had a lot of people crying this week,

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Speaker 1: and we've had a lot of emotional people getting jobs

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Speaker 1: getting let go. Josh Allen got very, very emotional this

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Speaker 1: week when Sean McDermott got fired. Reportedly, it was a

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Speaker 1: In the last forty years, that's four decades. That's a

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Speaker 1: Both now have head coaches. It's very realistic. The coaches

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McDermott won sixty six percent of his games. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's really high. And John Harbaughs got a winning playoff

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Speaker 1: we think Joe Brady will be better than McDermott? And

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Speaker 1: So those Denver rosters, those new England rosters are going

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Speaker 1: So if you get to a Super Bowl, you got

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Speaker 2: Then you get to the NFC with more stack rosters.

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Speaker 2: Here's Josh Allen on the moves in Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: As much success we've had over the last you know,

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Speaker 5: eight to nine seasons, we still haven't been able to

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Speaker 5: get the main job done. So again, what does that

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Speaker 1: Now there's only two jobs left. Clint Kubiak, the Seattle

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Speaker 1: They've also got some interesting offensive people. Last night in

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Speaker 1: And also Sean Payton and bow Nicks. Are they at

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Speaker 1: each other's throats. That's what's being reported. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I like conflict. I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 9: Nothing predisposed, nothing that was there originally. I might have

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Speaker 9: how many surgeries I've had in the past, to be

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Speaker 10: Well, the Eagles announ yesterday that they have found their

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Speaker 4: Are you ready Colin Darian's NFL career? He just happened

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Speaker 4: Is he too young for the job? Does he have

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Speaker 1: I root for people, young people who get jobs. I've

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Speaker 1: This is one of these he could be brilliant, is

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Speaker 10: Yeah, interesting, so he went to Oregon State. I think

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Speaker 1: A contained it is a high scrutiny job. Like Philadelphia

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Speaker 10: I would say it's a very boom bust because right

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Speaker 2: Was a coordinator at twenty seven? You can look that up.

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Speaker 10: They had a really strong coaching psycle, hiring Robert Sadah

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Speaker 10: Salah said Dabeles history of developing young qbs was the

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Speaker 10: You don't want to go overboard and saydabel was going

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Speaker 4: There was no debate about it.

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Speaker 2: And it's very signifficult.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I mean it's it's and I think most fans

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Speaker 10: I don't disagree. Interesting that cam Ward is not in

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Speaker 10: Let's go to Kansas Any Chiefs Collein, Oh, we love

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Speaker 2: But they gotta fix their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: But my guess is that division now, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: Kansas City could be significantly better than last year and

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Speaker 10: Does this kind of not feel like, hey man, you

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Speaker 4: Then they break up, go in a different direction, and

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Speaker 10: For that relationship and you go back to your old girlfriend.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to say Andy Reid's running out of ideas,

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Speaker 2: If something works, it's okay to go back.

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Speaker 10: It didn't work, least that's the problem. They went back

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Speaker 4: Different time, different roster, different everything.

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Speaker 4: Ye no Kelsey, no Tyreek Bill the bail them out.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the news.

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Speaker 4: And thanks for stopping.

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Speaker 6: By the line.

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Speaker 1: I've said this. I love the NBA playoffs. Regular season

438
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Speaker 1: can be sort of long, but let me give the

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Speaker 1: NBA credit. Adam Silver has finally the league has figured

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Speaker 1: it out that college basketball is a free marketing brand

441
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Speaker 1: for you, like college football is for the NFL. The

442
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Speaker 1: difference is the NFL has always understood how valuable college

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Speaker 1: football is. The NBA is like G League. Do go

444
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Speaker 1: to college, go to the G league. G League is

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Speaker 1: the witness protection program. Nobody cares, nobody watches it. Duke Carolina, Arizona, Yukon,

446
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Speaker 1: Michigan State, that'll that is free marketing. And the coaches

447
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Speaker 1: are better than G League coaches. So Adam Silver, I think,

448
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Speaker 1: has finally wrapped his brain around this and wrapped his

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Speaker 1: arms around it. He came on our show and we

450
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Speaker 1: talked about this lean into college basketball, especially programs like Duke,

451
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Speaker 1: who furnish you with not only great players, but we

452
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Speaker 1: all know who they are. And this is a multifaceted rant.

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Speaker 1: I could go on for an hour on this topic.

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Speaker 1: But two Dukies that just came out of the draft,

455
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Speaker 1: which was a hell of a draft, have now entered

456
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Speaker 1: the NBA and they met last night, and these kids

457
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Speaker 1: are unbelievable. Two Dukies, two Duke rookies. Cooper Flags only

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Speaker 1: nineteen years old. He dropped forty nine points. And then

459
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Speaker 1: Kannoppol is only twenty. He dropped thirty four, both Duke guys.

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Speaker 1: And they are so insanely skilled for their age. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when Lebron came out, he was a freight train. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he had Cooper Flag's bag. I really don't

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Speaker 1: rookie year. I've never seen a teenager in the NBA

464
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Speaker 1: that is this good offensively. Both these kids are sensational.

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Speaker 1: They're almost European in their skill set. They're versatile. I

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Speaker 1: mean they put Cooper Flagg at point guard. They put

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Speaker 1: on a show. Last night nine one thirty four. It

468
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Speaker 1: was a great game, and they're what the NBA was hoping.

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Speaker 1: John Morant was but he was too immature, or Zion

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Speaker 1: but he kept getting hurt and was unfocused. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if these two Dukies can be the face of

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Speaker 1: the league. But Cooper Flag, I said it before the draft.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it now. He's a better version at this

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Speaker 1: age than Jason Tatum, much more aggressive, better defender. These

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Speaker 1: kids are unbelievable. If you go to the last twenty

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Speaker 1: five games for Cooper Flag shooting fifty percent from the

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Speaker 1: floor average in twenty two and a half points a game.

478
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Speaker 1: And they put on a clinic last night. And the

479
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Speaker 1: ner thing that really helps college basketball went to about

480
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Speaker 1: a twenty year drought where I stopped talking about it.

481
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Speaker 1: All the good players were one and done. And so

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Speaker 1: college basketball is significantly better today. They've just got more

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Speaker 1: good players. And what it's done, it's given like these

484
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Speaker 1: two Duke kids a better training ground for the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that Cooper Flag is something else. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing is I looked at up this morning

487
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Speaker 1: just to give you an idea of how college basketball's

488
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Speaker 1: changed three drafts ago, there was only one college basketball

489
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Speaker 1: player in the top five. It was becoming a European draft.

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Speaker 1: They had more skill this draft. First eleven picks, I'll

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Speaker 1: say it, ours are college basketball players. So and Jay

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Speaker 1: McK and I have talked about this next year's draft.

493
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Speaker 1: This upcoming draft is unbelievable. At the top, the top

494
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Speaker 1: three players could all be like high end all stars.

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Speaker 1: And the top five players in this draft, Ace Bailey's

496
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Speaker 1: in Utah, Edgecombe and Philadelphia Harper and san Antonio, the

497
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Speaker 1: kid in Charlotte, Cooper Flag all outstanding. But those two

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Speaker 1: guys last night, I mean it was it was something else.

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Speaker 1: Here's Cooper Flag on his battle with a former teammate.

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Speaker 12: It's incredible, you know. You know, I think it's pretty

501
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Speaker 12: well known as in our roommate last year, and you know,

502
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Speaker 12: just to have a night like this with him, and

503
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Speaker 12: you know, I know how special he is.

504
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Speaker 2: And you know how hard he work.

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Speaker 12: So this is funny. You know, I think, you know,

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Speaker 12: ten plus years down the road, you know, I think

507
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Speaker 12: we'll both be looking back on this, you know, as

508
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Speaker 12: a pretty special thing.

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Speaker 1: Kan kannepl and Cooper Flag. I'm looking at their rookie

510
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Speaker 1: rankings points a game. They're one and two rebounds a game.

511
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: They're three and seven assists the game there, fourth and five. God,

512
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Speaker 1: they are it's just you know, if you didn't watch it,

513
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Speaker 1: go to YouTube. Both these guys are they just I

514
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Speaker 1: mean they look like they're twenty six twenty seven year

515
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Speaker 1: old guys, all sorts of I mean, con can literally

516
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Speaker 1: catch and shoot, he can lead with the ball. They

517
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Speaker 1: both have a sense of what's around them. It just

518
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Speaker 1: we thought Jahn Moran and Zion we thought were like, Okay,

519
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Speaker 1: this is going to be the league going forward, and

520
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: between injuries and immaturity like that didn't work. I don't

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Speaker 1: see that as an issue with these two guys, but

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Speaker 1: it is. Thankfully, the NBA has finally come to terms

523
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Speaker 1: with use and lean into Duke and Yukon and Kansas

524
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Speaker 1: and UCLA and Arizona and Gonzaia and you're, you know,

525
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Speaker 1: Michigan State. Lean into this. The coaching's better, and it's

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Speaker 1: free marketing. It's I get to watch these guys for

527
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Speaker 1: two years, sometimes only one, but I get to watch them.

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Speaker 1: So it has been one of the gifts of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Whether you liked Baker Mayfield or not, coming out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: You had an opinion European guys could be good. I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen them. I don't even have an opinion, and

532
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Speaker 1: they usually go to awful team, so you don't watch

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Speaker 1: them much for the first four or five years. All Right,

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Speaker 1: the coaching hires, we've only got two coaching positions left.

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Speaker 1: Will grade what we think of the coach hires. And Uh,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe a movie that's gonna get made

537
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Speaker 1: in Hollywood. You're not gonna believe.

538
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Speaker 2: This thing they're talking about. Sam Darnold in Tinseltown.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

540
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Speaker 6: in noon Eastern not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow on Fox.

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Speaker 10: They come from all over for the one hundred and

543
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Speaker 10: fiftieth Westminster Kennel Club Show, and the Nose to Nose

544
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Speaker 10: battle for Top Dog begins with the Master's Agility Championship

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Speaker 10: tomorrow at four point thirty eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you say that as if you're not excited for that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people watch that, that dog show.

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Speaker 4: I'm stoked.

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Speaker 1: World Cup. Did you see the World Cup announcement came out?

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Speaker 1: That is gonna shot.

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Speaker 2: People aren't gonna believe, not that they care the ratings.

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Speaker 2: That thing's gonna get world up.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, if there's nothing up against it, it's going to

554
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Speaker 10: be like, I mean, regular season baseball, NBA finals will

555
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Speaker 10: be done.

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Speaker 4: It's all World Cup like. It's going to be the

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Speaker 4: biggest story in sports.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen how many tickets you had? There was

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Speaker 1: a window to apply for tickets. Five hundred million ticket applications,

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Speaker 1: five hundred million ticket applications in the brief window for

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Speaker 1: the World Cup. So the Raiders don't have a coach.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Clint Kubiak after Sunday.

563
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Speaker 1: And the Arizona Cardinals, who are kind of a turbulent mess,

564
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Speaker 1: don't have a coach, and I don't know where they're going,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of look.

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Speaker 2: Usually I do grades on coaches. I don't know. I

567
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Speaker 2: here's all the hires.

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Speaker 1: I would say this, here's my confidence I'll give you

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Speaker 1: my confidence meter on the coaching higher so far, let's start.

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Speaker 1: I am supremely confident on John Harbaugh with the New

571
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Speaker 1: York Giants that it will work to some level. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the Giants were one in seven in one

573
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Speaker 1: score games. Their d line is to me top ten

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Skataboo and Jackson Dark were super productive

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Speaker 1: as rookies. It's a winnable division to me. The Eagles regressed.

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Speaker 1: We don't know about their new OC commanders. Are a

577
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Speaker 1: bit of a mess right now. Cross your fingers on

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniel's health. Cliff Kingsbury left hardbo'sben five hundred or

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Speaker 1: better in fifteen of his eighteen seasons. I would say

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Speaker 1: I am supremely confident that John Harper. I'm not promising

581
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Speaker 1: super bowls, but I think they're going to vie for

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Speaker 1: the division title next year. I think they're going to

583
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Speaker 1: be a very good eight nine to ten win team.

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Speaker 1: I really do Okay, So I'm supremely confident in that.

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Speaker 1: I am confident in Kevin Stefanski within two years getting

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Speaker 1: Atlanta right. First of all, he's a really smart guy.

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Speaker 1: He's an offensive co which stable ownership. I think their

588
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Speaker 1: O line is really solid, above average. Michael Pennix, b

589
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Speaker 1: John Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts.

590
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Speaker 2: Had his moments last year.

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Speaker 1: I think again, Arthur Blank, Matt Ryan, I'm interested to

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Speaker 1: see his work inside the organization. Another smart guy. I

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Speaker 1: think within two years, I am confident that he'll get

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Speaker 1: them humming, very winnable division. Also Titans Robert Sala. I'm

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Speaker 1: very confident in one year they will turn it around

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Speaker 1: because they have a healthy quarterback cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: I think Brian.

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Speaker 1: Dables, a great hired at oc Salad did it with

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Speaker 1: Smoke and Mears. Defensively, his teams play hard and fast

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Speaker 1: and are a little cocky. They have the most cap

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Speaker 1: space in the NFL. So I am supremely confident on

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Speaker 1: the harbad Giants hire. I am confident on the Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala and Kevin Stefanski hires. Now I would go down

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Speaker 1: to competent jesse mentor with a good organization, that is

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Speaker 1: a competency hire.

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Speaker 2: I do not know.

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Speaker 1: He's never been a head coach. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: It's the fourth head coach in the Ravens history. They

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Speaker 1: don't move around a lot, they don't make a lot

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Speaker 1: of mistakes. He's a sharp young guy. Last four years

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Speaker 1: he's been with hardball, crushed it at Michigan, crushed it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They have Lamar Jackson, excellent ownership. They have six Pro Bowlers,

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Speaker 1: if nothing else. He's a very competent coach and I

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Speaker 1: feel that way about Mike McCarthy. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: offensive version of Mike Tomlin. But Mike Tomlin just finished

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Speaker 1: ten and seven with a forty two year old quarterback

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Speaker 1: and won the division. Mike McCarthy is competent. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to fall off. They've already gotten the offensive line

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Speaker 1: coach that Aaron likes and Mike likes. Again, I feel

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Speaker 1: like you're getting competency Jesse Mentor and Mike McCarthy very,

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Speaker 1: very floor. And then let's go to this C word concern.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Joe Brady with the Bills.

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Speaker 2: He's young.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Daboles statistically was a little better with

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey on the offense than Joe Brady. He did

627
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Speaker 1: a good job with Joe Burrow in LSU. He's done

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Speaker 1: a good job with Josh Allen. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen covers up a lot of deficiencies. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: he just does.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't And also it's going to be harder for

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Speaker 1: him than it was for McDermott because Josh Allen's cap

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Speaker 1: hit goes up like twenty million a year. Well, that

635
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Speaker 1: just makes it tougher. That's one less high end player.

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Speaker 1: The other one I'm concerned about, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is pretty obvious. Todd Monkin with the Browns. Was he

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Speaker 1: on anybody else's coaching radar that whole coaching search. Everybody

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Speaker 1: thought it was Jim Schwartz, and I think they thought

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Speaker 1: Jim schwar sorts would hang around if they didn't hire him,

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Speaker 1: and Jim Schwartz said no. Jim Schwartz, for the record,

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Speaker 1: probably goes with Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna crush. I have no idea. I mean, again, he

644
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Speaker 1: was nobody's top choice. The organization always feels like they

645
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Speaker 1: can't figure out quarterback. They let Stefanski go, who's a

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Speaker 1: two time coach of the Year and one a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of people do that in Cleveland. And

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Speaker 1: the third one and I just Jeff Hafley Dolphins. They

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Speaker 1: got to get a quarterback and this is not a

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Speaker 1: good draft for quarterback. So Halfley's supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: sharp guy. It could work. I did a solid job

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Speaker 1: at BC. I thought he did a really nice job

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, but I've never seen him as an

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Speaker 1: NFL head coach.

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Speaker 2: Steven Ross.

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Speaker 1: I mean they got rid of the GM and Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: The GM I thought was a bigger issue. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Miami. He's hired a lot of coaches,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of coaches, so supremely confident, confident, certainly confident, concern.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Mentor was on our show this week. He says,

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Speaker 1: Number one, I've got to establish my own culture.

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Speaker 13: I think we're going to create an identity of a

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Speaker 13: really well connected team that's tough and physical, but also

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Speaker 13: that's very innovative. We want to be really forward thinking

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Speaker 13: schematically in all three phases, and I think there's going

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Speaker 13: to be a lot of excitement when the guys come

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Speaker 13: back and really feel like we're headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: I saw another story this morning. Drake May at twenty three,

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Speaker 1: will become the second youngest quarterback to start in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So eight quarterbacks have gotten to a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl in their second year and four and four. So

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Speaker 1: two things are happening in society with age. Older people

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Speaker 1: are living longer, boomers are are living longer. There's been

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Speaker 1: obviously health advances. I mean there's more information on health.

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Speaker 1: If you embrace it, you can live a little longer

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Speaker 1: people now living seventy nine and a half years. That's

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Speaker 1: going up. The boomer generation is also the richest generation,

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Speaker 1: so that can help with healthcare. The second thing is happening.

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Speaker 1: I believe this to be true. I think young people

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Speaker 1: are savvier than I was when I was young. There's

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Speaker 1: more transparency in society. There are so many places to

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Speaker 1: get information that you didn't get young people because their

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Speaker 1: parents or boomers have traveled more than we that his kids.

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Speaker 1: So I think older people are living longer, and young people,

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Speaker 1: if they embrace it, are a little savvier. Sometimes it

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Speaker 1: works against them, but they're a little savvier. And when

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Speaker 1: it comes to quarterback age or age in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the league's getting younger, and I don't to me, age

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Speaker 1: is a number. I mean Aaron Rodgers forty two, he's

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Speaker 1: not as mobile, Tom Brady forty four. I mean both

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Speaker 1: those guys were really good in their forties. Matt Stafford,

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Speaker 1: I think he turns thirty eight. Here, Matt Stafford is

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Speaker 1: going to win the MVP. And on the other end

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Speaker 1: of the spectrum, youth bo Nicks had sixty one college starts.

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Speaker 1: I think brock Perty let me look it up here

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Speaker 1: had forty six. Jalen Hurts had forty two. These guys

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Speaker 1: are starting a lot of games. College coaching is better.

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Speaker 1: NFL coaching offensively has never been better. There's seven on

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Speaker 1: seven camps, there's private coaching. I don't think I mean

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Speaker 1: Drake May maybe twenty three. Drake May is an excellent quarterback,

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Speaker 1: probably be a little more refined next year. Josh McDaniel

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Speaker 1: coaching for a second year, But I don't look at

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Speaker 1: him as a weakness in the Super Bowl. Is he

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Speaker 1: going to put up Matt stafford performances. Well, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have Pukinnakua, okay. And the offensive line for the Rams

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Speaker 1: is better than the offensive line for the Patriots. I

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Speaker 1: also think the Rams have better tight ends than the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots. I've said this, I think the Patriots

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Speaker 1: offense needs another draft. But I don't look at him

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Speaker 1: as the problem against the Seahawks. Here's Drake May talking

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Speaker 1: about the experience with Rabel this year.

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Speaker 14: I think he does a great job of kind of

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Speaker 14: relating to us, relating to us, being able to talk

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Speaker 14: as a player and now as a coach, of his experiences,

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Speaker 14: of his experiences winning Super Bowls, the experience of making

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Speaker 14: the playoffs this first year with the Steelers. And remember

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Speaker 14: we talked about in the beginning of the season kind

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Speaker 14: of talking about our stories and we'll kind of hopes

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Speaker 14: we had, and you know, our hopes were to win

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Speaker 14: the Big Game and win the Super Bowl, and you

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Speaker 14: look where we're at now and kind of all those

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Speaker 14: hopes are coming into a reality.

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Speaker 1: It is hard to find anybody outside of the Duncan

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Speaker 1: Donuts region that likes the New England Patriots. But that

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Speaker 1: line's getting up to five. That's a lot of points.

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Speaker 1: Seattle is the second youngest team in the league. Seattle

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Speaker 1: will be a favorite. They can be at times a

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Speaker 1: little reckless. They obviously Seattle's at this point. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of holes with Seattle's roster. But

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell came on yesterday and said, people do not

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Speaker 1: understand how good the defensive personnel is with New England.

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Speaker 1: They spent a lot of money in free agency. I

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Speaker 1: think New England's defense is excellent. I think their skill players, backs,

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Speaker 1: tight ends are above average.

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Speaker 2: Power two next