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Speaker 3: Good morning, everybody, Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: We have an amazing show for everybody today. What do

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Speaker 2: we have, Crystal, Indeed, we.

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Speaker 1: Do big, big, breaking news this morning. We have now

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Speaker 1: in our hands the indictments against Donald Trump and eighteen

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Speaker 1: other co conspirators alleged down in Fulton County, Georgia. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to break all of that down on for

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Speaker 1: so we'll get into all of that. We also have

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Speaker 1: updates for you on the ground in Hawaii. A lot

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Speaker 1: of frustration there about the federal government and the local

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Speaker 1: government response to what is the worst wildfire disaster in

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Speaker 1: more than a century, so that is huge.

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Speaker 5: We also have new details about what the hell is.

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Speaker 1: Going on with Hunter Biden and the special counsel appointed

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Speaker 1: exchange between Bill Maher and Mary and Williamson that we

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Speaker 2: Thank you enough, so breakingpoints dot com if you are

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Speaker 2: able to. At the same time, the situation in Maui

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Speaker 2: continues to get worse and there's a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: whether President Biden will deign to visit Hawaii anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to those responses.

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Speaker 7: I did arrive here on the ground very early Saturday

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Speaker 7: morning at the direction of the President, and it gave

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Speaker 7: me the opportunity to spend two full days, one full

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Speaker 7: As residents continue to mourn the loss of their friends,

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Speaker 7: their loved ones, their neighbors, the loss of their homes

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Speaker 7: know that we are mourning with them. Nothing can prepare

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Speaker 7: as you heard, I have been in continuous communication with

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Speaker 7: FEMA has activated our Transitional Sheltering Assistance Program, which is

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Speaker 7: This is FEMA's hotel program, and this will allow them

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Speaker 8: Does he want to travel there eventually deserving the damage

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Speaker 4: Obviously I don't have anything to at this time. Look,

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Speaker 2: Nothing to share, Crystal, He's got nothing on the schedule.

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Speaker 2: What they did have time to put out, though, was

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Speaker 2: But notice I'm basically doing my home monologue that came

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: The other problem is that not only has President Biden

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Speaker 2: You can clearly see from the FEMA administrator, she's trying

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Speaker 3: About this all this well, okay.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, guys, can we please go ahead

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Speaker 2: Biden announced literally on the same day that he will

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Speaker 2: I like Lake Tahoe. It's a nice place. Certainly sounds

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Speaker 2: But the crazy thing is he's announcing this after he

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Speaker 3: Single comment on what's going on in Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: And ironically, yesterday I said, I was like, look, if

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Speaker 2: Here's what Trump had to say in criticism of Biden.

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Speaker 9: The sad thing is it should never have happened. Our

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Speaker 9: When asked about it today, as he was getting into

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Speaker 9: has been spending a great deal of time, crooked Joe Biden,

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Speaker 9: with a laugh and a smile, said he had no

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Speaker 9: absolutely horrible and unacceptable. It is a disgraceful thing that

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Speaker 2: So this is becoming a political problem for the Biden administration, Crystal,

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Speaker 2: and it's just a continued same I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Palestine was a disaster here, I mean clearly after the

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Speaker 1: You actually have two former presidents who are showing them

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Speaker 1: up right now in this regard because of the Barack Obama,

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Speaker 1: there's two pieces here. There's the reality, which is the

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Speaker 1: most important piece. Are people getting the relief and the

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Speaker 1: I just took a look this morning. We've got ninety

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Speaker 1: expected to rise. We have not had a fire that

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Speaker 5: So there's the reality.

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Speaker 1: And we played for you yesterday residents who were saying, no,

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Speaker 1: I think we ought to take that seriously. Number two,

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Speaker 5: That they say that they care, and that they.

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Speaker 1: Don't just say no comment, and that they don't just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't remember, Katrina, how long was it?

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Speaker 1: He was vice president for eight years. He's been president

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Speaker 1: You need to get in front of the cameras and

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Speaker 5: I am actually at that, you know, the incompetence.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at, even though that is the worst

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also we don't have a very good view into

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Speaker 3: I talked about this yesterday. There is not very good

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Speaker 2: Even Starlink has not yet been fully enabled on the island.

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Speaker 2: This is a dispatch from Will Caine, he works over

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Speaker 2: at Fox News. He says, quote, I'm in wes Maui.

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Speaker 2: This stem this morning. Service is rough, hard to post.

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Speaker 3: And at the plaza, someone from the.

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Speaker 2: That we will recall, we had the irs whistleblowers who

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Speaker 5: This whole thing is a muddle, and I'm very confused

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Speaker 5: Now, what the goal was?

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Speaker 1: I really am going to reserve judgment because I just

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Speaker 3: Why are you giving it to then?

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Speaker 5: Why is getting them now?

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Speaker 10: Well, this appointment is camouflage and it's cover up. I

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Speaker 10: that the Department of Justice lawyers working for David Weiss

439
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Speaker 10: protected the Biden family.

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Speaker 2: So that's the Republican view of it now. And I

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Speaker 2: do think it's interesting, like you said, because originally some

442
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Speaker 2: people did actually ask for special counsel.

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Speaker 5: One of them for David Weiss to be pointed of

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Speaker 5: special counsel.

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Speaker 3: And then now though, yeah, I mean, it does come

446
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Speaker 3: down to timing.

447
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Speaker 2: It comes down to what exactly is going to look

448
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Speaker 2: like and why this appointment was made.

449
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Speaker 3: Is this case going to go to trial? Is a

450
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Speaker 3: plea agreement actually going to happen?

451
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Speaker 2: Actually, even the current case, it doesn't even concern me

452
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Speaker 2: that much because I don't care as much about the

453
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Speaker 2: tax charges.

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Speaker 3: I want to know about all this money that's flowing

455
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Speaker 3: in here.

456
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Speaker 2: I care about what had money that tax was not

457
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Speaker 2: paid on, where did it come from, why was it

458
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Speaker 2: paid for what purpose? Some of that has been released now,

459
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Speaker 2: the twenty million dollars or so that they've revealed in transactions,

460
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Speaker 2: which is extraordinary for so called you know, like basically

461
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Speaker 2: you know, Hunter wanting to avoid registering as a foreign agent.

462
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Speaker 2: Those are the cases that I actually want to see

463
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Speaker 2: and the actual investigation. So is he even going to

464
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Speaker 2: go into that, because that's one thing Weiss floated before

465
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Speaker 2: the judge was yeah, well, we may still explore an

466
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Speaker 2: investigation or whatever into that. But then I've also seen

467
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Speaker 2: that one of the criticisms of Weiss is that he's

468
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Speaker 2: been waiting for some statues of limitations also to expire

469
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Speaker 2: in some charges that could have been brought against Hunter,

470
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Speaker 2: and he's been dragging his feet on this case now

471
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Speaker 2: for almost four for several years that he's been in charge.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, the entire thing doesn't make any damn sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, on the Republican side, they're going

474
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Speaker 1: to criticize it. No matter what was done here, they're

475
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Speaker 1: going to criticize. So, I mean it's pretty blatant when

476
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Speaker 1: you literally ask for exactly this outcome, and then the

477
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Speaker 1: outcome happens and you're up at arms. And I love

478
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Speaker 1: how Ted Cruiz conveniently leaves that out when he's talking

479
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Speaker 1: about is like five year cover up or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Like if it was a five year cover.

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Speaker 1: Up, then you know that was going on back when

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Speaker 1: you were calling for this man to be a pointed

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Speaker 1: special council.

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Speaker 5: It sort of disregard the things that they say in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of what we do.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, I agree with you, Sager. These charges

487
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Speaker 1: are directly about Hunter Biden. They are not accept tangentially

488
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Speaker 1: about Joe Biden. But the political impact here is pretty clear.

489
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Speaker 1: They thought they were going to have this thing done

490
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Speaker 1: and dusted and it would be you know, a side

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Speaker 1: note and in the rear view mirror in terms of

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Speaker 1: the Biden campaign, and that is very clearly not happening.

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Speaker 1: This is going to drag on, there may be a trial,

494
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Speaker 1: This is going to hang over the Biden campaign probably

495
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Speaker 1: throughout twenty twenty four. And so for them, it's it's

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Speaker 1: definitely you know, it's definitely not ideal.

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Speaker 2: No, certainly not, and we will continue to keep an

498
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Speaker 2: eye on it. Okay, let's go to the next part here,

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Speaker 2: This is some really terrible and some sad news. It's

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Speaker 2: data that was actually just released recently by the CDC

501
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Speaker 2: with demographic breakdown as well well, and unfortunately just really

502
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Speaker 2: kind of continues a trend that we saw after COVID.

503
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Speaker 2: So let's go and put this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 2: We have the full chart here. Overall, the number of

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Speaker 2: debts by suicide here in the United States actually increased

506
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Speaker 2: two point six percent from twenty twenty one to twenty

507
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Speaker 2: twenty two. They have an overall demographic breakdown here, and

508
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Speaker 2: some of the trends are some things that we've been

509
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Speaker 2: trying to highlight on the show now for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: As you can see, the number of male suicides stood

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Speaker 2: at some thirty nine thousand, two hundred and fifty five

512
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Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty two in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Female suicide also increased, actually even more so at a

514
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Speaker 2: higher rate, from NY eight hundred to ten thousand, one

515
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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety four. When you look at the overall

516
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Speaker 2: breakdown by race, you can see that you know, Native

517
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Speaker 2: an African, American, Indian, and Alaskan natives, there was a

518
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Speaker 2: slight decrease in the overall rate. The thing is, though,

519
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Speaker 2: is that the numbers there are different so low in

520
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Speaker 2: some respect that whatever you do see changes that will

521
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Speaker 2: reflect differently in terms of the overall statistics. I think

522
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Speaker 2: the important thing was to actually look at the age

523
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Speaker 2: demographic and at some of the really troubling trends that

524
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Speaker 2: we're beginning to see. So luckily, I guess, you know,

525
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Speaker 2: the ten to twenty twenty ten to twenty four year

526
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Speaker 2: suicide rate went down by eight point four percent. There

527
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Speaker 2: is still some analysis about happening with young girls, young man,

528
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Speaker 2: social media.

529
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Speaker 3: And all that.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole other discourse that we can step away from.

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Speaker 2: The problem that you're really seeing here is that from

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Speaker 2: forty five to sixty four years there was a six

533
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Speaker 2: point sixty percent increase in the suicide rate, but over

534
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Speaker 2: sixty five there was a eight point one percent increase

535
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Speaker 2: in the suicide rate.

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Speaker 3: Crystal.

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Speaker 2: That is particularly troubling and underscores a lot of issues

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Speaker 2: around Look, we talk a lot about boomers here on

539
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 2: the show, about boomer wealth, about you know how in

540
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: many respects the luckiest generation that set us all up

541
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Speaker 2: for failure, But we also don't forget and I was

542
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Speaker 2: just looking at some retirement data just yesterday, over fifty

543
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Speaker 2: percent of people I have just don't have a single

544
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Speaker 2: dollar and retirement saved.

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Speaker 3: A lot of old people are in a real bad situation.

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Speaker 2: They are blown tire away from bankruptcy and they literally

547
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: only have a Social Security check to rely on, and

548
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: in many respects that is not enough in order to

549
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Speaker 2: make rent, make food. There's a loneliness crisis as well

550
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Speaker 2: that has hit. There's also a big generational question around

551
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Speaker 2: people who are elderly and whether you know, their relatives

552
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Speaker 2: should care for.

553
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Speaker 3: Them or they're going to just dump them in a home.

554
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Speaker 2: And unfortunately, like you know, if you look at the

555
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Speaker 2: discourse and all that, I think a lot of that

556
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Speaker 2: is reflected in that over sixty five number.

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Speaker 3: And one of the reasons why you.

558
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Speaker 2: Should always care about the suicide rate, especially whenever it

559
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Speaker 2: goes up, is you know, Andrew Yang said this during

560
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Speaker 2: his campaign. I still think it is one of the

561
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Speaker 2: most profound things you ever said. The most basic reflection

562
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Speaker 2: of a society doing well or not is our people

563
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Speaker 2: living or people dying. And we have a lot of

564
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Speaker 2: debts right now. We have massive deaths of despair. Suicide

565
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Speaker 2: rate is just part of that drug overdose and all

566
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Speaker 2: that also went up in twenty twenty two to basically

567
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Speaker 2: an entire Vietnam War of people killed. One of the

568
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Speaker 2: number one causes of death accidental cause of de now

569
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: is no longer car accidents for younger people. It's actually

570
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Speaker 2: drug overdose, specifically bifentanyl. So these are all deeply interconnected

571
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Speaker 2: around what we see and it is a deepening sign

572
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Speaker 2: of overall sickness. Increases in the suicide rate now over

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Speaker 2: the last several years are something that we are really

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Speaker 2: beginning to see is an overall trend.

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Speaker 3: And if you do need help, please seek it from.

576
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Speaker 2: A friend, call the suicide hotline or any of that,

577
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: because it's just it is a sign of deep sickness

578
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: that we can see here.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Just to lay out some of the additional numbers of

582
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Speaker 1: who is most impacted, both men and women saw and

583
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Speaker 1: increase in the suicide rate year over year, but men

584
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Speaker 1: continue to make up four times the rate of women

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Speaker 1: in terms of suicide. So men are fifty percent of

586
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Speaker 1: the population but nearly eighty percent of suicides. And to

587
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Speaker 1: dig even more into the age numbers, the highest rate

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Speaker 1: of suicide comes among those age eighty five plus. So

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Speaker 1: soccer speaking to what you were saying about, you know,

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Speaker 1: people who are towards the end of their life, who

591
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Speaker 1: are worried about being put in homes, who don't have

592
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Speaker 1: quality of life, whatever is going on, there is deeply

593
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Speaker 1: tragic that our elders, to that large extent feel that

594
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Speaker 1: they are no longer wanted, needed, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: In this world.

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Speaker 1: The third highest rate is actually among those age twenty

597
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Speaker 1: five to thirty four, so people are kind of, you know,

598
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Speaker 1: coming into their prime earning years. Who are you know,

599
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: these are millennials and gen z who may be struggling with,

600
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Speaker 1: you know, not being able to find purpose in life,

601
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Speaker 1: not being able to get the kind of job that's

602
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Speaker 1: going to give them any kind of stability. All those

603
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Speaker 1: sorts of things play into this. One thing that I

604
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Speaker 1: found remarkable is actually in twenty twenty there was a

605
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Speaker 1: significant dip in the suicide rate, and then post pandemic

606
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Speaker 1: is when it has really spiked. And listen, there's a

607
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Speaker 1: lot of ways we could speculate about why that may

608
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Speaker 1: be the case, but you know, we were looking at

609
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Speaker 1: we're probably going to cover for this weekend numbers of

610
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Speaker 1: homelessness that also dramatically declined during the pandemic because of

611
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Speaker 1: some of the government supports that were put in place.

612
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Speaker 1: So I wonder if some of those government financial supports

613
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Speaker 1: that were in place during the pandemic didn't also help

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Speaker 1: to curb the suicide rate.

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Speaker 3: Because we know that's possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we know when people are under severe economic stress

617
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Speaker 1: is one of the times men in particular are more

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Speaker 1: likely to commit suicide.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the one thing I really found whenever

621
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Speaker 2: I went deep into guns, because everyone's always like, oh,

622
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Speaker 2: mass shootings, mass shootings. Talked about this before, and I

623
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Speaker 2: was like, okay, well, what is in mass shooting?

624
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Speaker 3: Like, what does that even mean?

625
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Speaker 2: The way that you and I would understand it is

626
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Speaker 2: like a school shooter that's incredibly rare. Mass shooting is

627
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Speaker 2: defined by the FEDS is three or more people who

628
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Speaker 2: are killed. They dropped it down from before. So I'm like, okay,

629
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Speaker 2: what are these incidents gang violence? That's overwhelming, Let's put

630
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Speaker 2: that aside. You know, the rest word I was telling

631
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Speaker 2: you this, it's guys who killed themselves and they killed

632
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Speaker 2: their whole families. And the majority of the reason almost

633
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: every time, they're in crazy debt. A lot of these gamblers,

634
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Speaker 2: people who didn't want to tell her why I can't

635
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: live with the shame of being able to provide. They

636
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: get twisted in their own heads and they think it's

637
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Speaker 2: some sort of like weird altruistic move that they're doing

638
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: by killing themselves and their whole families and departing. It

639
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: sounds sick, I know, but this is the you know,

640
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: you got to put try and understand the mindset of

641
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: a deranged person who's in that state of affairs.

642
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Speaker 3: But that is directly downstream.

643
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Speaker 2: So I think you can understand then twenty twenty one

644
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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty two, as you start to see some

645
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: of the economic real issues that happen with COVID.

646
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Speaker 3: We've also looked at this previously.

647
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Speaker 2: You know, anytime somebody said what he says, like, oh

648
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Speaker 2: I wish we had a recession or we just need

649
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: a nice little recession. Do you know how many people

650
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Speaker 2: kill themselves in two thousand and eight, as like that's

651
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: one of those where everybody always moves past it.

652
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Speaker 3: It's not just people lost their homes.

653
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Speaker 2: A lot of people killed themselves in two thousand and

654
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Speaker 2: nine and in twenty ten as a result of just

655
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Speaker 2: being like I got no way out, I got no

656
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Speaker 2: chance to live. It's either the st or it's this,

657
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: and they choose that. And you know, it's a terrible

658
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: situation that we find ourselves in here. And this is

659
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Speaker 2: just one of the most stark, like flashing red lights.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know when people are gonna start paying attention.

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Speaker 2: We've had almost five six years of life expectancy drop,

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Speaker 2: where the worst life expectancy drop in the United States

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Speaker 2: since freaking World War One, over one hundred years. And

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Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, it's just COVID. If you look deeper,

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Speaker 2: it's not. It's you know, COVID is it's part of

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Speaker 2: the story, massive portion of the story. Best of despair, suicide,

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Speaker 2: And when you really look at this by income spectrum,

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Speaker 2: especially the people who commit suicide, and you also look

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Speaker 2: at attempts and the reasons behind that same pair with

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Speaker 2: drug overdose, we have this, you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it's sickness.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those mass.

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Speaker 2: Societal issues that everybody pretends to care about but nobody's

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Speaker 2: actually doing anything about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know, I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: solution is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know when you look at the chart of

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Speaker 1: the trend over years it's really starts to track upward

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Speaker 1: right around the time at the financial crisis, actually a

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Speaker 1: little bit before that, a couple of years before that,

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Speaker 1: and it basically continues on an upward trajectory unimpeded, with

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Speaker 1: the exception of during the pandemic, which again I think

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Speaker 1: is really noteworthy, but it does speak to something that

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Speaker 1: is deeply, deeply wrong at the core of our society.

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Speaker 1: And when you put all of these things together, it

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Speaker 1: is a dire picture that we seem to not have

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Speaker 1: the political will or desire to.

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Speaker 5: Really deal with.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will remember that Senator Sanders actually convened

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Speaker 1: like a whole hearing on the detrate and you know,

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Speaker 1: decrease life expectancy, et cetera, and preston cover it all. I

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Speaker 1: mean didn't know, like barely any attention to what should

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Speaker 1: be one of the gravest problems in society. So we'll

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Speaker 1: certainly continue to keep an eye on it and you know,

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Speaker 1: bring awareness to it and try to figure out what

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Speaker 1: the solutions are, et cetera. Unfortunately, this is an appropriate

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Speaker 1: segue to a conversation that happened on Bill Maher's podcast

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Speaker 1: Club Random with presidential candidate Maryann Williamson. They got into

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Speaker 1: a real debate about how is America actually doing? And

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Speaker 1: this is a debate that you know, we've had a

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Speaker 1: little bit on the show. You see it certainly playing

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Speaker 1: out online where there's a certain group of people who's like,

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Speaker 1: look at the unemployment rate, look at you know, inflation's

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Speaker 1: going down. Actually, you know, modern America is wonderful and

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Speaker 1: it's the best it's ever been, and people are doing

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Speaker 1: great and all this, you know, suicide great, whatever, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm not paying attention to that, and you have other

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Speaker 1: people who are saying, look at the number of people

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Speaker 1: who are food and secure, look at the suicide or

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Speaker 1: look at the overdose rate, look at the number of

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Speaker 1: people are shruggling. So anyway, that debate played out a

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Speaker 1: bit between Marion and Bill Maher on.

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Speaker 11: His show list Take listen, medicare, but dot Medicare for all. Unemployment,

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Speaker 11: it's medicare, It's not Medicare for all.

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Speaker 8: Well, Obamacare is very getting very close to Medicare for.

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Speaker 11: We still have eighty five million Americans who are underinsured

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Speaker 11: or uninsured, and you have to be really like kind

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Speaker 11: of buffer emotionally if you think eighty five million people

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Speaker 11: does not matter.

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Speaker 8: I'm not the strong man who thinks eighty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you are.

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Speaker 11: But I'm just saying when people say, oh, well, that

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Speaker 11: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 8: No. But I'm also saying that when you just ride around,

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Speaker 8: you just see a country that does not look like

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Speaker 8: it's falling apart. My eyes also matter. It matters what

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Speaker 8: I read and what people tell me. It also matters

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Speaker 8: that I just live in this world, and I travel

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Speaker 8: a lot, and I'm out in the city a lot,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of people are just living their best lives.

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Speaker 8: And they're not all fucking rich. It's not all the

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Speaker 8: top twenty percent. For all its horrible problems, this country

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Speaker 8: still somehow how we got through the pandemic and didn't

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Speaker 8: go broke, I don't know. I mean, we're probably will

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Speaker 8: in the future. Maybe it's the inflation is part of

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Speaker 8: that issue. But I just don't see a country where

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Speaker 8: the people are just seething and unhappy when I'm out,

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Speaker 8: and that has to count for something.

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Speaker 11: You know where I was last night, I was speaking

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Speaker 11: to teenagers on skid row. Do you know how many

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Speaker 11: people are homeless in Los Angeles County on any given night?

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Speaker 3: Seventies Okay, that's my point.

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Speaker 11: You said you drive around, but where do you drive around?

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Speaker 11: You don't drive too many miles?

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Speaker 8: Of course, why would I go to skid road?

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Speaker 11: Kind of my point. So you don't really you say,

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Speaker 11: I don't see anybody going through that. That's right, you're

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Speaker 11: driving right there, and people than underclass invisibilized.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Field more than an underclass. It's an underclass. It's

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Speaker 8: a large, a too large underclass that this country. That

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Speaker 8: it's a scandal that we we certainly can't seem to

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Speaker 8: address it.

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Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no, it's not that we can't

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Speaker 11: address it. It's that in order to address it, you

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Speaker 11: have to challenge the corporate bottom line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that moment there when Marianne's like, but.

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Speaker 5: Where are you driving around? That kind of gets to

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Speaker 5: the heart of it.

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Speaker 1: There's I watched this whole podcast, which I think it's

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Speaker 1: worth watching. There's, you know, very healthy exchange of ideas

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Speaker 1: between the two of them. At one point, he makes

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Speaker 1: a similar point. He's like, I was on Venice Beach

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Speaker 1: and people are happy, people are doing great. Do you

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Speaker 1: know I just looked up median price of a home

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Speaker 1: in Venice Beach three point seven million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, three point seven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Listen, life is great if you're on Venice, But I

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Speaker 2: love Venice Beach. It's a pretty cool area. That wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be my metric of whether society is doing well. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you drive around Beverly Hills, I'm sure that's what

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Speaker 2: you think. That clip is actually one of the best

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Speaker 2: illustrations of how class divide in this country really changes

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Speaker 2: the way that we have a perception and why separation,

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Speaker 2: in particular of enclaves of super zip codes have created

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Speaker 2: alternative realities. So if you live in an area where

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Speaker 2: you have a median household income, the Washington DC is

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Speaker 2: the best example. We have one of the richest areas

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Speaker 2: in the entire country. I think it's like four out

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Speaker 2: of the five richest counties in the United States surround Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. So if you are in Bethesda County, where

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Speaker 2: the average person has a master's degree, and you're at

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Speaker 2: Whole Foods, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Life seems great. Everybody you know genuinely is doing well

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Speaker 3: if you do it in.

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Speaker 2: Arlington County or Fairfax, certain areas of Fairfax loud In County,

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Speaker 2: you know, particularly like Enclaves. That's obvious if you drive

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Speaker 2: two hours south. We were talking about Richmond. North of Richmond.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you drive two hours south to Farmville, Virginia.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's two hours, but.

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Speaker 2: Something, Okay, if you drive a little bit, well, now

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Speaker 2: you're living in a whole other world. And the irony

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Speaker 2: actually is here around DC is in the same cities, counties.

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Speaker 2: Actually you can go from actually like one of the

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Speaker 2: wealthy suburbs in the entire country and you could cross

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Speaker 2: the county line and you can be in the straight

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Speaker 2: up ghetto. And that is exactly exactly the point that

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Speaker 2: I think Marianne was trying to illustrate, and the divide

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Speaker 2: and the separation causes people not to understand actually on

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Speaker 2: a bigger macro level, what is really happening. And that's

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Speaker 2: also why subjectively trying to try to judge your environment

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Speaker 2: sometimes that's important, you know, but in many cases, like

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Speaker 2: I think kind of what he's getting at, it's just

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Speaker 2: not a good way of it's not a good way

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Speaker 2: of trying to judge whether the country is doing well

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Speaker 2: or not when you literally live in one of the

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Speaker 2: richest cities in all of human history. Right, and probably

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Speaker 2: one of the richest areas. I'm just gonna guess, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He does.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, you don't have to go to Farmville, Virginia.

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Speaker 5: I mean go to southwest dast c. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: not far away, you know.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is, yeah, it's never been easier to

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Speaker 1: isolate yourself in your own little bubble without even meaning

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Speaker 1: to do it with it just as a you know,

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Speaker 1: product of your class status and where you live, in

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Speaker 1: the schools you choose to send your kids to. Bilmar

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Speaker 1: doesn't have kids. So this is a generalization I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about here, but the stores you shop at. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for many upper class people or even upper middle class people,

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Speaker 1: their only interaction with the working class is like when

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Speaker 1: they're Uber eats is just delivered, or when they're you know,

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Speaker 1: talking to their Uber driver to the extent that they

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Speaker 1: deigned to do so, or when they're getting.

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Speaker 5: Their Starbucks coffee.

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Speaker 1: They don't live in the same neighborhoods, They oftentimes you know,

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Speaker 1: don't share the same culture anymore. Their whole experience of

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Speaker 1: the difficulty of living in America has so wildly diverged.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that's the important piece that really

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Speaker 1: comes out here. And so when Marianne says, you know,

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Speaker 1: I do you know where I was last night?

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Speaker 5: I was on skid row And he's like, well, why

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Speaker 5: would you go there? I mean that kind of shows

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Speaker 5: the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It becomes so easy to just avoid the unpleasantness. And

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're not going to parts of the

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Speaker 1: country also that have been devastated, that are in the struggle,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean, America is this weird?

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Speaker 1: I mean this weird place right now. We have incredible

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Speaker 1: affluence that's on display everywhere in all kinds of ways,

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Speaker 1: and then you have just underneath the surface, rising insecurity

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Speaker 1: every single month, the number of people who are relying

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Speaker 1: on food banks, the number of people who can't make rent.

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Speaker 1: In that state of calif Mornia sixteen only sixteen percent

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Speaker 1: of people can even afford a home sixteen percent. So

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Speaker 1: you have to be privileged just to like sniff the

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Speaker 1: idea of becoming a homeowner. Not to mention the suicide

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Speaker 1: rate we just talked about, not to mention the overdose

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Speaker 1: and addiction rate, not to mention the you know, the

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Speaker 1: vast suffering that has continued to creep up as pandemic

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Speaker 1: error programs have been stripped away, A trillion dollars in

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Speaker 1: credit card debt hanging over people's heads at this point.

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Speaker 1: So but yeah, I do think that probably the most

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Speaker 1: important takeaways you said Soccer is just how easy it

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Speaker 1: is now for you to isolate yourself without intending to,

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Speaker 1: without being a bad person, without trying to live in

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Speaker 1: a bubble. People end up living in a bubble and

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Speaker 1: they don't even realize.

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Speaker 2: You have to understand you have to constantly check yourself

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Speaker 2: if you are if you ever do find yourself in

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Speaker 2: that type of situation. Otherwise, you know, I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is why people literally out of touch is a very

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Speaker 2: common phrase.

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Speaker 3: That's how it happens. It's very simple, especially if you're.

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Speaker 2: Somebody who's been kind of at the top of life

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Speaker 2: now for almost twenty five years, like you're living in

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Speaker 2: a different reality. I also would say one of the

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Speaker 2: problems that we often assume is we're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: that person looks like they're doing well well, yeah, because

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Speaker 2: they might have two or three thousand dollars in credit

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Speaker 2: card debt. They might have, you know, quarter of a

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Speaker 2: million dollars a debt to their name. So in many

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Speaker 2: cases I have found this is that you know, somebody

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Speaker 2: appears to be doing well and then all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden they disappear and you're like, wait, what happened. It's like, oh, well,

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00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: you know, they were crazy in debt, they had to

876
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: move home, lost this or that, and you're like, oh

877
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: my god, like that's crazy because you realize that, you know,

878
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: you can, this whole keeping up with the Joneses thing

879
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: is basically financed on the back of the banks and.

880
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: Then the credit card industry.

881
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: So even if people do appear to be doing well,

882
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: you have no idea what that actual balance sheet looks like.

883
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: And you know, eventually bills do come do and you know,

884
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: we have areas things like two thousand and eight and

885
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: all of that that eventually kind of become clarifying moments,

886
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: but they blow up a lot of people's lives, and

887
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: then you really start to understand what was going on

888
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: beneath the surface.

889
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say is, you know, I've been

890
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: talking a lot about how County, where Bill Maher lives,

891
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: where that conversation was unfolding, is the hotbed right now

892
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: of militant labor activity and strikes a majority of the strike.

893
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: Activity that's happened in this country has happened in La County,

894
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: and there's a reason for that.

895
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 5: So he does it.

896
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: He should just, you know, go talk to some of

897
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: the hotel workers that are on strike, who are having

898
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: to commute ninety minutes both ways and still struggling to

899
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Speaker 1: make ends meet. Or you know, the gentleman who was

900
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: homeless because he wasn't able to get into the industry

901
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: and cobble together enough to be able to make rent

902
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: even ninety minutes away. There's a lot of struggle out

903
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: there if you know where to look and you choose

904
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: to see it. But you know, if you're a person

905
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: of means who lives in a certain you know, neighborhood

906
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: in society, you actually have to actively choose to see

907
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: it or else it will be completely invisible.

908
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: To Crystal, what are you? Take a look at?

909
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: An absolutely outrageous situation unfolded last week in Louisville, Kentucky,

910
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: as kids went back to school. New busters designed with

911
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: AI by Pricey consultants created such a catastrophe some kids

912
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: did not arrive back home until nearly ten pm. Parents

913
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: for hours had no idea where their children were. The

914
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: horror stories are still trickling out and school continues to

915
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: be canceled while they try to untangle this absolute disaster.

916
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Anyone hearing this story is going to be enraged, but

917
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: I can tell you as a public school mom myself,

918
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: I am beside myself over this one.

919
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: So here's what happened.

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00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: Jefferson County, where Louisville is located, is the largest school

921
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: district in the state, with some ninety six thousand kids

922
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Speaker 1: and sixty eight thousand bus riders. Like many school districts,

923
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Jefferson County has struggled to attract and retain bus drivers,

924
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: leaving them short staffed and struggling to make the roots work.

925
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: So in an attempt to solve the problem, they hired

926
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Speaker 1: a company called Alpha Route, paying them hundreds of thousands

927
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: of dollars to use AI to redesign busters to deal

928
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: with that low staffing. Unfortunately, while the school consulted with

929
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: Alpha Root, they did not consult with parents, who raise

930
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: concerns about bus stop locations, safety, or with the bus

931
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Speaker 1: drivers who were tasked with making this whole thing work.

932
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: Those drivers were desperately sounding the alarm before school day

933
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Speaker 1: one ever arrived. Here is John Stoveall, he's president of

934
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Speaker 1: the union local that represents those bus drivers, speaking to

935
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: a local news outlet about how the drivers tried to

936
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Speaker 1: warn the school district.

937
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 12: And when they were calling me in tears crying that

938
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 12: this is not going to work and they were afraid

939
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 12: they were going to get blamed.

940
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 6: John Stoveall knows saying I told you so, won't do

941
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 6: much at this point.

942
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Speaker 12: No, because it doesn't really solve anything.

943
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 6: His drivers had been practicing the routes before Wednesday and

944
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 6: telling him the lefts and rights didn't add up. Also,

945
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 6: they were going all the way across town.

946
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 12: I've had like a driver drive out Willahoyd Compound, which

947
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 12: is all the way out in the East end, all the

948
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 12: way to Valley Station for one kid, and.

949
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 5: Sure enough, absolute calamity ensued.

950
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: Some buses never showed to pick kids up at all,

951
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Some were hours late. Some kids were not dropped off

952
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: till nearly ten pm at night.

953
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: They had to go.

954
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: All those hours with no food, no water, and parents

955
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: at home terrified having no idea where their kids were

956
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: and when or if they were ever going to make

957
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: it home. One parent told the AP that one of

958
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: his young daughters was covered in urine when she finally

959
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: arrived home at nine to fifteen pm. The horror stories too,

960
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: continued to pour out on Facebook. One good smart and

961
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: said he and his wife saw a little kid, maybe

962
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: seven years old, dropped off on a busy road and

963
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Louisville at around seven pm at night. The kid looked distraught,

964
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: so they went to check in with him, and it

965
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: turns out he didn't really speak English, but they were

966
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: able to figure out what school he went to. They

967
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: called the school, turned out his mom was there frantically

968
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: trying to locate her son. Apparently they'd put the wrong

969
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: bus number on his backpack, so he goten dropped off

970
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: in the completely wrong place, and he was wholly lost.

971
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: According to the post, when his mother was finally reunited

972
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: with him, mama runs up crying.

973
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: Like a baby. She was scared to death.

974
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: Thank god this couple was there to help this poor

975
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: child who has to be traumatized by the situation. Another

976
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: mom posted that her kid had been put on a

977
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: bus when the kid was not even supposed to be

978
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: on a bus at all. She spent the day with

979
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: no idea where her baby was. I cannot imagine ever

980
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: putting my kid on a school bus again. After such

981
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: a horrifying failure, How are these kids going to feel

982
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: the next time they have to get on a bus

983
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: after going through hell and back last time? And as

984
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: it turns out, this isn't the first time that the

985
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: Alpha Route AI software failed a school district. In Columbus, Ohio,

986
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: the school system paid one point five million dollars for

987
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: Alpha Route to design a bus route system so poor

988
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: that they had to scrap the entire thing midyear. In Boston,

989
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: the school district had to backtrack over plans to implement

990
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: an Alpha Route bus system after parents absolutely revolted. Jefferson

991
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: County Public Schools has apparently paid them a quarter of

992
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: a million dollars for services, including bus routes and bell

993
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: schedules in a lot of ways. So the roote cause

994
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: here was a shortage of bus drivers that school districts

995
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: across the country are struggling with. As of last fall,

996
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: sixty percent of school district said they were still trying

997
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: to hire bus drivers at the beginning of the school year.

998
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: And it makes sense why if you have a commercial

999
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: driver's license, you got other opportunities to earn money in

1000
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: a full time, year round position. Consider the drivers on

1001
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: the new UPS contract can earn one hundred and seventy

1002
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: k per year. In Jefferson County, bus driver numbers fell

1003
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: from nine hundred to six hundred, leaving the county desperate

1004
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: for a quick fix to paper over that shortage. As

1005
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Jason Bailey at the Kentucky Center for Economic Policy points out,

1006
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: as private sector employers up their wages, the public sector

1007
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: is going to have to find ways to compete or

1008
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: else these types of nightmare scenarios are going to become

1009
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: more and more common.

1010
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 5: In Kentucky.

1011
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: Specifically, the legislature has shirked their responsibility to fund school transportation,

1012
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: leaving the school district with no ability to offer the

1013
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: kind of pay that might lure more drivers to help

1014
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: ease the shortfall. According to Jason Bailey's calculations, the Kentucky

1015
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: General Assembly has shorted Jefferson County one hundred and four

1016
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: million dollars in transportation funds they were obligated to provide

1017
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: in the past four years alone. Just five years ago,

1018
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: Kentuckians joined a national strikewave of teachers demanding.

1019
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 5: The state do write by their public schools, kids, parents,

1020
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 5: and teachers.

1021
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 1: Those movements were actually concentrated in red states like Kentucky,

1022
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: where school budgets had been under assault by ideological opponents

1023
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: and austerity hawks alike. Listen, money is not going to

1024
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: fix everything in education. Let's be clear, but nothing should

1025
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: be more precious to us than the care of our

1026
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: nation's children. Please fire the AI consultants, fund the transportation budget,

1027
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: pay the dang bus drivers more, and for God's sake,

1028
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to make sure this mess never

1029
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: happens to another child again.

1030
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 5: This horrified me.

1031
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: Can you one and if you want to hear my

1032
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at

1033
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Breakingpoints dot Com.

1034
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 5: All right, Zachar, are you looking at well?

1035
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: One of the most dishonest tricks in Washington is tying

1036
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: an unpopular measure or law onto something that is broadly

1037
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: popular or inoffensive. The hope is always people won't notice,

1038
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: or that the consequences of not passing that particular legislation

1039
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: are so high that by allowing the unpopular rider onto it,

1040
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: people simply will not notice. It's the same way almost

1041
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: all of our bills move today. Everything is glommed together

1042
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: so that legislators cannot be held accountable for specific provisions.

1043
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: It is no mistake that the Biden administration then is

1044
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: using this dishonest trick to circumvent the will of the

1045
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: American people and ship billions of more dollars to the

1046
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: war in Ukraine. Quietly last week, the administration announced it

1047
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: will seek an additional twenty five billion dollars for the

1048
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: Ukrainian war effort. This request does not stand on its own. Instead,

1049
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: it will be dyed directly to disaster relief funds here

1050
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: in the US and for border enforcement. That is clearly

1051
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: to entice both Republicans and Democrats to vote for it.

1052
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: The request is not a mistake. It was made in

1053
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: the very same week.

1054
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: That the majority of Americans came out against increased military

1055
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: aid to Ukraine, and who think the historic one hundred

1056
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: billion dollars we've given them has been quite enough. The

1057
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: new funds, shockingly enough, are not even enough to quote

1058
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: get them over the hump or even the promised end

1059
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: of requests from the administration, officials tell reporters on background. Instead,

1060
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: the extra twenty five billion is simply the request for

1061
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: the first quarter of the fiscal year and forthcoming quarterly

1062
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: requests for future aid will continue. In other words, this

1063
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: is the most stark admission yet the funding requests will

1064
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: never end. Twenty five billion a quarter is now the standard,

1065
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: and the Biden administration expects the United States of America

1066
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: to pony up some one hundred billion dollars a year

1067
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future. The stunning admission by the administration

1068
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: reveals much about this conflict. First and foremost is this

1069
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: how much of a sweetheart deal Ukraine and Europeans are

1070
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: getting from Biden. To understand how historic USA to Ukraine

1071
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: already has been considered in this context, the Marshall Plan,

1072
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: which was the total commitment to all of non Soviet

1073
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: Europe to rebuild them after World War II, cost one

1074
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty billion dollars inflation adjusted for today, that

1075
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: is nearly approaching the sum the Biden administration was to

1076
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: send in just two years to Ukraine, a country of

1077
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: which we have no trade relationship and is insignificant to

1078
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: the affairs of the world and our economic future. I

1079
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: once again am forced to show you this chart, which

1080
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: shows that whenever it comes to who is bankrolling this endeavor,

1081
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: it is almost entirely the United States. The US has

1082
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: shelled out more than double what the entire European Union

1083
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: combined has. It is shelled out ten times what the

1084
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: UK has ten times Germany. Germany, the largest economy on

1085
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: the entire European continent, whose security is arguably most threatened

1086
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: amongst the great powers of Europe, tries to make a

1087
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: show after the US request. Here's what they will now consider.

1088
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: They will consider sending Ukraine five billion dollars of military

1089
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: aid to a year for the next five years.

1090
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: Five billion.

1091
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: So basically, they will consider sending Ukraine over a five

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Speaker 2: year period what Biden wants us to send Ukraine for

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Speaker 2: a single quarter of this year. This is outrageous considering

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Speaker 2: two things, the massively declining importance of Europe to the

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Speaker 2: American way of life, life and the global economy. Two,

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Speaker 2: the actual effect of said military aid on the ability

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Speaker 2: of Ukraine to actually achieve realistic victory and the associated

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Speaker 2: costs to US defense readiness.

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Speaker 3: I've done a whole monologue.

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Speaker 2: Already on the question of Europe's declining importance to the

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Speaker 2: United States, which I encourage you to go watch. But

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Speaker 2: let's focus then on the latter part, and let's be

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Speaker 2: really real. The US and the global community have provided

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Speaker 2: Ukraine with enough military aid to hold off one of

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Speaker 2: the largest militaries on Earth and hold nearly eighty percent

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Speaker 2: of their own territory. That on its face is a

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Speaker 2: tremendous victory, but because we have never defined terms, we

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Speaker 2: are allowing Ukraine to hijack the debate instead of the

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Speaker 2: story of their defense as a historic victory, which it

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Speaker 2: is in context, they are refusing to accept any victory

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Speaker 2: definition except for total restoration of their borders before the

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Speaker 2: Russian invasion and reclaiming all of Crimea.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: To accomplish this, they are expending thousands of their lives

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Speaker 2: on the front line, requesting every weapon that the US

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Speaker 2: and Europe has its disposal, and they're firing some ninety

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Speaker 2: thousand shells per month.

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Speaker 3: How has that worked out well? As you can see.

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Speaker 2: Despite the billions of dollars that we have pumped into

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Speaker 2: Ukraine ahead of the anticipated counter offensive, they have been

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Speaker 2: able to take back a paltry area controlled by Russia.

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Speaker 2: On a meaningful level, it is negligible. It basically looks

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Speaker 2: like a battle line from the First World War. This

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Speaker 2: is with the constant pressure on the front line, firing

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Speaker 2: more shells in a month than the US is able

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Speaker 2: to produce in four months, even with higher production quotas

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Speaker 2: Ukraine firsters here in the United States are already changing

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Speaker 2: their tune. They say, continued a to Ukraine. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's not about this year. Now they're riding off the

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Speaker 2: counter offensive. Now it's about the next year. The Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal lays out this view. Since Ukraine was unable

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Speaker 2: to achieve this year, maybe they can do it next year.

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Speaker 2: But only if we send them even more weapons, more

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Speaker 2: advanced weapons systems like F sixteen's, more tanks.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, just maybe that'll give them a chance.

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00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Then there will always be just one more weird trick

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00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: that the Ukraine vers can come up with which may

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Speaker 2: just turn the tide of battle. All it takes is

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Speaker 2: a compliant population willing to watch as we ship hundreds

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Speaker 2: of billions into a conflict zone that is grinding through

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Speaker 2: conscripts on both sides and endangering global security over a

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Speaker 2: matter again which does not matter.

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Speaker 3: To us at all.

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Speaker 2: The brutal truth is that an extra twenty five billion

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00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: is not going to do a damn thing, considering how

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00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 2: much they've already chewed through and the results that they

1147
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: themselves have to show for it. This is especially true

1148
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: when at Ukraine is directly cannibalizing actively available arms for

1149
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: the United States military and our allies which actually matter

1150
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: to our security in our economy, like Taiwan.

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Speaker 3: It is time for Congress.

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Speaker 2: To exercise its constitutional right and exert the influence that

1153
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: the founder is actually intended. They need to deny the

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00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: administration request and force them to explore now a diplomatic

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00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: solution to this conflict that ends the massive expenditure of

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Speaker 2: American aid and it ends the rating of Pentagon on

1157
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Speaker 2: coffers and aligns American spending with actual American interests. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: Ukraine is going to be another Afghanistan or a rock.

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Speaker 2: If it's not already, we will be fooled into a

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Speaker 2: never ending conflict which bleeds us dry, it leaves us weaker,

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Speaker 2: humiliated on the global stage. Unlike those we have a

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Speaker 2: choice today to actually choose our fate. We need to

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Speaker 2: make the right one, and we need to end this

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Speaker 2: thing once and for all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is how unbelievable is it.

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Speaker 2: have some guests that we'll post later and all of that.

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