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Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guests

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Speaker 1: in the building. That's right. I know he's back. He

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Speaker 1: was here what two weeks ago? Yeah, yeah, the brother

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Speaker 1: my song, welcome my song. What's happening King? Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: were gonna bring you back to you did say that,

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Speaker 1: and we wanted to talk about all the violence that

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Speaker 1: was happening, you know, in our communities and you know,

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Speaker 1: in the industry, and sadly it's only gotten worse since

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Speaker 1: then with the passing the P and B Rock. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's crazy, man. I brought today my brothers the

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Speaker 1: official guns are of New York. Brother at Mitchell. He's

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Speaker 1: been appointed by the man to pretty much focus on

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Speaker 1: gun violence in New York City. So he's the man,

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Speaker 1: the top man in that regard. And this is also

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Speaker 1: a co founder of Until Freedom, my brother Angelo Pinto,

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Speaker 1: Attorney Angelo Pinto. You know, so where do we start?

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Speaker 1: I guess you know, Well, the first reason why we

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring you up because everybody was talking about lyrics, right,

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Speaker 1: and rappers were talking about lyrics, and in DA's using

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Speaker 1: their lyrics against him in court, um, so I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about that first. So what are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that, especially you're from all of your your from

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Speaker 1: the Bronx. Jesus Christ, don't start the trouble from the Bronx.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you're a rapper, you were signed with violated signs,

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Speaker 1: so many times you had records and you got arrested.

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Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on them using lyrics against

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Speaker 1: you or any rappers? I mean, I mean, we know

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Speaker 1: that it happens, right and if you and you're engaged

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Speaker 1: in a certain lifestyle, you're in the streets, you actually

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Speaker 1: actively committing crimes, and then you're talking about them, then

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Speaker 1: you're telling on yourself. I mean, that's just common sense.

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Speaker 1: I think anybody. People don't see it like that though,

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Speaker 1: but if you, I'm saying, see the difference is if

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Speaker 1: if you're just entertaining, you're a rapper and you're rapping

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Speaker 1: about what you've seen and a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of these rappers ain't living that life and they're just

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Speaker 1: making stuff up. So those those situations don't they don't

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Speaker 1: fit into what we're talking about. It we're talking about

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Speaker 1: when you're actively involved in the streets, you're actively involved

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Speaker 1: in crime. They have videos what you're doing, things, you

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Speaker 1: running around with people, where they have enough to put

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Speaker 1: your lyrics to say, hey, look this is him right

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Speaker 1: here doing this, and this is him saying he did that. Right,

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Speaker 1: If you're just rapping about something that you didn't did,

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Speaker 1: there's no there's no trail, there's nothing for them to follow,

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Speaker 1: so them they can't just use your lyrics as evidence

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Speaker 1: in chief. Yeah, it's not like they hurt. It's not

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Speaker 1: like they're listening to rappers and saying, oh, he's rapping

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Speaker 1: about killing somebody, let's go lock them up. They already

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Speaker 1: that's just another piece of evidence that they're collecting, the

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Speaker 1: evidence in chief. That's the key to it is not

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Speaker 1: it can't be evidence in chief if if it supports

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Speaker 1: what they already know and they have people to collaborate

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Speaker 1: and all those things, then you gotta be smarter than that.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you the question, how would the

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Speaker 1: DA know the difference? Right now, I'm listening to some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that's going on with Young Thugs case

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Speaker 1: right now. The attorney was like, yeah, he said, after

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Speaker 1: judge your honor, like he's talking to judge. Of course

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Speaker 1: he wasn't talking about that judge, but that attorney made

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Speaker 1: it seem like that that case is something different. But

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Speaker 1: then I think, Scharlomagne, that's not a crime that you

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Speaker 1: understand I'm saying. So what that does is what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to say, is everything that you say at your

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Speaker 1: I say yo, my wife, get out of line, I'm

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Speaker 1: a smacking the mouth. And then and then you smack,

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Speaker 1: she goes and says domestic violence, and then they pull

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Speaker 1: it up. You've made You've made a contage. These are

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Speaker 1: things that you already said that you're willing to do,

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Speaker 1: so you get you're allowing them to use things against

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Speaker 1: you that come out your own We have to be

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Speaker 1: a lot more mindful in the days like I got

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Speaker 1: locked up for crimes and they try to utilize stuff

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Speaker 1: in my trial too. So I'm aware of these things,

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Speaker 1: and I think as artists for twenty plus years watching

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Speaker 1: artists get have these lyrics used against them all the time,

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Speaker 1: especially when they're committing the acts, and they're able to

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Speaker 1: show the mind state that you're willing to do certain things.

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Speaker 1: If you're not making contract decision, as you know, what

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Speaker 1: some shit I'm just not gonna talk about. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I understand it's certain things I've even

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Speaker 1: And also these guys are being very specific, like they're

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Speaker 1: naming actual names, actual crimes as dates. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: what do you expect as only here from the attorney.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think to Mice's point, anything you say,

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Speaker 1: Kennon will be used against you in a court of law.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the hip hop police have existed for

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Speaker 1: a long time, so in any scenario, people build cases,

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Speaker 1: so they're probably following you for an extended period of time.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like this is a pattern that departments

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Speaker 1: are now practicing. So artists should say, hold on, wait,

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Speaker 1: let me protect myself. We were talking about it earlier,

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Speaker 1: even in the context of the violence right, whether or

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Speaker 1: not you think violence in lyrics actually leads to violence

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Speaker 1: in the streets, one of the biggest targets are rappers

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Speaker 1: of the violence we see in our communities. So at

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Speaker 1: some point, as an artist, you would think you would

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Speaker 1: want to protect yourself right from the violence that could

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Speaker 1: to Mike's point, it's like, at some point, protect yourself,

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Speaker 1: don't say this and lyrics and don't have this particular

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Speaker 1: content that could potentially create an atmosphere in your environment

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Speaker 1: do that because in essence, you're acting against your own

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Speaker 1: best interest. Let's stay here for a minute. So what

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on people trying to ban it and

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Speaker 1: to stop, you know, the government from using their lyrics

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Speaker 1: because you know, like what I said, some people are

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Speaker 1: telling all themselves. So what are your thoughts on them

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Speaker 1: actually doing you mean, like the legislation that they're trying

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Speaker 1: to pass that says you can no longer use these

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Speaker 1: lyrics against folks. I'm not gonna lie. I'm torn in

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Speaker 1: that scenario, right, I think that to Mike's point, if

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Speaker 1: you're telling on yourself, right, unless you use a disclaimer

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Speaker 1: and say everything I'm saying here is entertainment, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: here I'm saying that it's real, then they're in a

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Speaker 1: lot of cases, even like if you have a gun

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Speaker 1: if it's in plain sight, right, I don't have the

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Speaker 1: you're not not just playing sight, your language is saying

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Speaker 1: that you're doing something, then I have to say, maybe

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Speaker 1: they should be able to use it. And then my

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Speaker 1: other thought, right, and then the question is why would

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Speaker 1: you not want them to use this? If somebody's saying this,

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Speaker 1: I think for me, it comes for me. Is I

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Speaker 1: come from the streets, Like if you're a street dude,

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Speaker 1: we knew you. Don't put stuff on record. We not

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Speaker 1: took them on crime. We don't even want to do interviews.

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Speaker 1: Most street dudes that we knew, you've very seen them

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Speaker 1: ogs are there. Ain't even in the street no more.

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Speaker 1: But I am trying to know anybody I want to

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Speaker 1: that life. So I don't know what made this error

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Speaker 1: think that you could commit crime in plain sight and

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Speaker 1: don't understand what is the moond state like when you

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Speaker 1: when we talk about the pnb Rock situation, Right, it

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Speaker 1: has to be levels of mental health. Right to say

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Speaker 1: going to do with that chain? How far are you

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Speaker 1: gonna get with that change? After you? Every everywhere we

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Speaker 1: got a phone's cameras all over. They could pretty much

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, you don't realize that every crime is

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Speaker 1: on camera. Somewhere somebody got a phone camera, there's camera's

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Speaker 1: connected to the store. They could literally trail you to

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Speaker 1: where you go. So the mind state that you took

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Speaker 1: a change, what is you think you're gonna You pretty

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Speaker 1: much gave up your whole life for a change. But

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Speaker 1: the thing that you're saying, the idea that we know

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Speaker 1: anyone who knows knows if you're doing crime, you don't

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Speaker 1: say you're doing crime people, that's a basic rule. So

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Speaker 1: then the question becomes why would people actively compromise themselves

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Speaker 1: that don't make sense. I think Mike said something earlier,

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Speaker 1: being rewarded for it. So if you're pretending to be

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Speaker 1: And I think that goes back to the personal responsibility

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Speaker 1: but I do blame the people who they surround themselves with.

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Speaker 1: They get rid of the people who say, yo, we

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Speaker 1: because everybody is perpetuating and making you feel like you're

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Speaker 1: the man because they need something from you. That one

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Speaker 1: make mistakes. Like you watch these when we all came

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Speaker 1: with posses. It was a hundred of us. Everybody had

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Speaker 1: one hundred dudes. I was walking the club with a

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Speaker 1: get me banned from a club. Then I started realizing, like,

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Speaker 1: why am I bringing all these people. I gotta pay

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Speaker 1: do this, and then when it all goes wrong, it's

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Speaker 1: on me. And those circles start to get smaller and smaller,

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Speaker 1: and then you go back to the original people who

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Speaker 1: it's harder now because the violence is way more incentivized.

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Speaker 1: Like if you look at the artists that are being

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Speaker 1: signed right now, every one of them has real beef.

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Speaker 1: are better. So I want to see artists, right, I

428
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 1: want to see artists. When I put this boycott Black

429
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: Murder thing together, it was saying to myself, I want

430
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 1: to see artists, athletes, everybody, prominent, regular community activists, you know,

431
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 1: brothers from the community who are doing the work, sit

432
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: down and say, okay, what we need to invest in

433
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 1: our communities to make sure the realities that we talk

434
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 1: about in these this music, they don't have to experience

435
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 1: that no more. Right, let me ask you my song.

436
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: You know what do you say to somebody to say that,

437
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 1: now you're the old man. And the reason I say

438
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 1: that is, you know, the first time people say is oh,

439
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 1: they could get security, you know. And I know coming up,

440
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,719
Speaker 1: a lot of artists faked it right. You look like

441
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: you had everything, You got the nice car, but you

442
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 1: didn't really have it. You show it out because it

443
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 1: made you look good. It got you into that club,

444
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: it got your song player, that got this, that in thegether.

445
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 1: They really have it. A lot of times, a lot

446
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: of people they run with fifty people because they can't

447
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 1: afford security. Fifty people is free. They're gonna ride regardless.

448
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 1: So what do you say to those people, Because a

449
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: lot of these artists are doing that. They can't afford that.

450
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: You can't afford the protected, you can't afford to wear it.

451
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. And that's the reality of

452
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: exactly what. No. But the thing is, I wasn't like that,

453
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: and I wore it, but I would I understand. I

454
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 1: wasn't wise. I didn't have a lot of people around

455
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: me that told me different things. And the one person

456
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 1: who did me and him would go back and forth

457
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: and argue about and he like you can't do this.

458
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: You can't do this, and and Mike, you also built different.

459
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it was people I don't want to talk about.

460
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: That wasn't really what I wanted to say I'm talking

461
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: about on the cover. But I still wasn't. I still ye,

462
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 1: I was just a different breed of individual. I would

463
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: be by myself. I never needed fifty people. You understand

464
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 1: saying I was willing to deal with ever consequences. But

465
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: even that was didn't make much sense, right because I

466
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: was always on edge and it created more situations. But

467
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, at this point, hip hop, the hip hop,

468
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: the culture of hip hop, is so much bigger. It's

469
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: not just the music, it's sports, it's everything, right, and

470
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 1: we have to invest in our lives the same way

471
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: that every other community does so, and that's what boycott

472
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: black murders. Okay, we make the music, we're saying that

473
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: drill music, and none of that is what's responsible for

474
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 1: the violence. Then we have to I want to see

475
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: these artists, or the drill artists or the top artists say, Okay,

476
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the communities. I'm invest this right,

477
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna put this in amount of money in the fund.

478
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: What do our communities need, these communities who are feeding you,

479
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: making you millionaires, making you rich. What are you willing

480
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: to invest to make sure the kids don't kind of

481
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: go through the same thing that you got to do.

482
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: What are their circumstances, trauma that's going in those in

483
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: those communities. What are you willing to invest? Are you

484
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna do some concerts that do some concerts in the

485
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: community so that we could take that money and we

486
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: could give it back in those communities, build these these

487
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: centers that they have be able to employ the mental

488
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 1: health whatever's going on, because every other UM coach and

489
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: everything is invested, and we are not investing in that.

490
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: And that's one of my problem is I don't I don't.

491
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: I don't know mad at drilled music. Nah, I came

492
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: up on street music, I came up on the locks.

493
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: I came up with MP like, it wasn't nobody harder

494
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: than MP. They it wasn't nobody harder than Fred Roll

495
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: and them. Like. So I understand that that's a reality.

496
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: But now we understand that people are dying every day,

497
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: and these kids are dying at thirteen. This is their

498
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: only way out, this is what they only see this

499
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: way out. So if we're not giving them something else,

500
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: then they're gonna keep killing each each other and we

501
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: just killing ourselves. I'm glad you said that, though, because

502
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: we often have revisionist history as older people and act

503
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: like we didn't grow up on the worst ship known

504
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: to fucking man. Wasn't that propensity? Like I was thinking,

505
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know. I can't say, Hope you

506
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: listen to me. When you walked into a club where

507
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: MP was on up, it wasn't they were snatching the change.

508
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: We weren't getting shot with it, shop throw your guns

509
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: in the air and all of that shit like that.

510
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: That was one that was not like, I don't think

511
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't the propensity that we see now. It wasn't.

512
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: That's the access wasn't. But we're acting like I haven't

513
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: been doing to stop the violence. Records self destruction record,

514
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: but we need the last time, we need to self

515
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to old artists. We need to self destruction.

516
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: We need one of those right now, and we need

517
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: it from prominent pe. We need young dudes. Yes, I

518
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: need Dirk on the song to my I've been through this,

519
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: but I realized we can't be killing each other right now,

520
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: I need Chief Keith to get I need those h

521
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: because that's where these people think that they following them

522
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: and not saying that they're responsible with it, but they

523
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: think these young kids want to be y'all and not

524
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: knowing that your reality is different. You live in mansions. Now,

525
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you away from violence. You ain't outside beef. That's what

526
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: you had to go through to get to. So now

527
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: invest to make sure that these kids don't have that.

528
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: And even evolution, right like certain people, you'll eat a

529
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: certain thing and then at some point history will say, hey,

530
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: you can't keep eating that because you'll die. You don't

531
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: say eat more of that. So even in the context

532
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: of music, I think at some point, and you see

533
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: it happen with artists after they make it, they say,

534
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to make music like this no more

535
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: because it's dangerous and it's gonna cause these issues. But

536
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: no one allows that to get visibility. So there is

537
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: something that is also impeding the process of evolution that

538
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: would naturally happen where I think you would get less

539
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: and less music like this. So as a result, you

540
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: get more and more music like this, and then the

541
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: other things start to happen where the community is impacted.

542
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: And we're not just talking about violence, because I think

543
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: in every facet of life, violence happens and that's a reality.

544
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: But we're talking about hyper violence, what hyper equipment to

545
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: cause violence. So we're talking about violence happening at a

546
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: propensity that we have not seen before and where you man, no,

547
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: it's fun. Statistically your correct shot a man. Right, there's

548
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: way more people that got shot and killed in the

549
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties than they are today. We are,

550
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: statistically speaking, we're much safer now than we were back then.

551
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: But because of the social media now, we didn't have

552
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: that back then. So when you pour more of the

553
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: put more of the social media on it, it just

554
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: magnifies it. So that's back to his point. This is

555
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: a different level and who because it's like if children

556
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: are if people are still dying. We say sometimes in

557
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: the community, one death is too much, right, and we're

558
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: not just seeing one death. Even when we were talking

559
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: about Labor Day weekend in Philadelphia in Chicago where you

560
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: talking about mass shootings, this wasn't necessar certainly something that

561
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: you saw before where three, four or five, seven, ten

562
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: people are shot at one time. But we're dealing with

563
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: a different kind of I think, a kind of hyper

564
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: violence that we haven't necessarily double before. But but but even then,

565
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: but even in early on, like you would see different things,

566
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: but now I'm seeing like innocent people being killed, children crazy.

567
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: It was at one time, and I know robbery and

568
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: violence is no respect, but it was more respect. You

569
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: don't mess with kids. There was cold people seem like

570
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: all that's out the window now, but people with one leg, anybody,

571
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: anybody can get it now. Unfortunately, is the is the

572
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: mantra amongst you know, the perpetrators. Right, there's no morals,

573
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: there's no colds anymore. Whereas we did have this color culture.

574
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: It was a color culture. It was that that's what

575
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: seems to be the hype. You know, this is why

576
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: again we need to all collaborate, we need to all

577
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: bond because there's there's there's a number of us that

578
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: be knowing how and these young people most of which

579
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I say, they don't even like to blame generations,

580
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: but they're the misguided missiles, right, they really are there.

581
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: They don't know until at the end of the day.

582
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: The work that we do, you know, with the crisis

583
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: management system, the work that we do in the Cure

584
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: Violence Global movement around this country. We see these young

585
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: people every day and we work to meet them where

586
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: they are and will hopefully be able to convince them

587
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: that what they're going to path with it they're own.

588
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: That's not going to end well. But as we all know,

589
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: it's somebody's going to throw a break, right, and then

590
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: they're going to find themselves in a situation where then

591
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: now they're realizing from the back end that they, you know,

592
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't worth it, and so we're just we're trying

593
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: to do it. And the deep thing about it is, now,

594
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: when we talk about violence, we talk about in the

595
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: context of it being a public health issue, like violence

596
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: is a disease the way it spreads, right, So even

597
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: when we think about something like the coronavirus, people could

598
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: have easily said, well, there's been the flu before, and

599
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: some people did. They said, you know, we've had these

600
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: issues before, it's not that big a deal. And then thousands,

601
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, and millions of people perish because of

602
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: that mentality, and then at some point the people who

603
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: are responsible and who are in leadership have to say

604
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: we have to devise a real strategy to respond to

605
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: this because we have to save lives. And we're the

606
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: folks who are saying we don't want people to die.

607
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: And I think we're in the same situation. Sure, maybe

608
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: violence has happened at a higher propensity before, but we're

609
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: still in a situation where an epidemic exists. But unfortunately,

610
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: we don't have an epidemic response. We don't get the resources,

611
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: we don't we don't have a real response system. And

612
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: in fact, people are saying, let more of this flourish.

613
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: So that's my In certain neighborhoods or in certain communities,

614
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: like mass shootings do require mass resources. So when we

615
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: see mass shootings in other communities, we see all of

616
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: the people that attached to that community come out. Has

617
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: been mentioned, But in our communities, what happened like the

618
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Parkland shooting, and you know, the list goes on in Northing,

619
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: you go back to columbind you can go up to Newtown.

620
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: You can look at you know the Vegas when when

621
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the shot, when when they're at the concert. The new

622
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: data joint those neighborhood and communities came out, I mean

623
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: literally a newtown, the community of Newtown, Connecticut said that

624
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: they were not sending their kids back into that school.

625
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: So what they did as a city is they tore

626
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: down a demo to school and built a whole new

627
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: school for their kids because they would they're animate. My

628
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: kids are not going to be re traumatized the differences.

629
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: And this is why I go back to your point

630
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: about where hip hop I think is our secret source

631
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: when these things are happening every single day in our communities,

632
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: our artists, our personalities, our you know, our superstars, our

633
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: leaders don't come out in that same manner. We don't

634
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: organize the benefit concert yet, you know, we don't have

635
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: it so that we have the ability to raise millions

636
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: of dollars in the school park. Oh man, they've been

637
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: now since day one, they've been raising one hundreds of

638
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. I mean, quiet money. This is what

639
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: they do and I respect it. But what I'm saying

640
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: at the same time, when you do that research, that

641
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: we could do something similar if we banned together. And

642
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: what's fascinating is it's communities who don't experience the same

643
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: propensity of violence who are able to get even more

644
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: resources than ours who are experiencing violence at higher rates

645
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: and we don't even get the base level of what

646
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: they get, and it doesn't make sense. At some point,

647
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: you're right, but then you know it's because the judicial

648
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: system is big business, from the prisons and everything it does. Yes,

649
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: So it's just like they said, you ain't meant to

650
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: survive because it's a set up. So you're set up

651
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: to not only die, but to fuel an economy that

652
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: thrives off you die. And that at that point you

653
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: got to realize we have to do something different, which

654
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: is what we say all the time, and this is

655
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: part of what we're saying, because it can become normalized,

656
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: it can feel like this is something that always happens.

657
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. That's exactly when I looked

658
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: at p and b Rock, right, and I was looking

659
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: at some of the comments and I was just seeing

660
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, this is this is looking like

661
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: deja vu. And most people are like, yo, well that's

662
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: what happens. That's what happens. And it's like and I

663
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: was having a conversation with me and he was really

664
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: in a dark place and he was just like, Yo,

665
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: this is not okay. You know, this is one of

666
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: my brothers from my hood, Like, this is not okay.

667
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: And I was talking to him and communicating with and

668
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I understand that this is very dangerous in this moment.

669
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: What happened to him? You know, it's different codes is

670
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: things involve pop smoke like these things, these are dangerous

671
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: and we have to And that's why I want to

672
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: call for a hip hop summit, because we need leaders,

673
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: we need hip hop artists, we need people to come

674
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: together and say, look, we are united, right, We're not

675
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: trying to We're not promoting anything. We know that bad

676
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: things happen, but we want everybody to know that this

677
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: is a community, you know, and we're gonna protect each other,

678
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that people feel safe

679
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: that we're looking out for each other if nothing else,

680
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I just wanted to

681
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: I agree with everything y'all saying. I just wanted that.

682
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: Being that we know systemically all of these socioeconomic conditions

683
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: were created to have these brothers even go to a

684
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: life of crime. Are we able? We can't recreate that,

685
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, we could create a system. You gotta like

686
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Angelo says this all the time. We have to have

687
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: a system to combat a system. But that's what I'm saying.

688
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: We can create a system, but it's not gonna be

689
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: like the government. You know, it's not gonna be the government.

690
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be it has to be grassroots. It has

691
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: to let everything we've done, like the fact that we

692
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: create culture, right, the fact that somebody can wear dreads

693
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: today and everybody's win dreads, somebody wins a bed today,

694
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: somebody's doing this and that that means that we have

695
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: the power to change influence behavior. So it has to

696
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: be those people who are influencers not to say, Yo,

697
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: this is not my fight. I can't be involved in that.

698
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm doing this. No, they know that's what you want

699
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: to say. They know that you're more in invested in

700
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: protecting your personal assets. Right. So, so once we say

701
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: to ourselves that it's not about me, it's about the

702
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: greater good of all of us, let me utilize Now.

703
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna use everything. Okay, you know we have

704
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Harry Belafonte, who funded a movement, say okay, I'm gonna

705
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: make sure Mama the King is able to do this.

706
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: I know you're doing this, so let me make sure

707
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: that you're able to do this. Freely without being shut

708
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: down and this and that. Because when I get on Instagram,

709
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna shadow band me because I talk about certain things.

710
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: When I talk about the Pencilly and violence in our

711
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: communities and talk about stopping boycot black murder, it gets

712
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: two or three views. Is I can't go live for

713
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: six months like these are things that's happening. So if

714
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: we're not creating our own platforms and we're not empowering

715
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: our own leaders, in our own voices in our community,

716
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: then we left to get whatever they give us. So

717
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: we have to say, yo, I see these people doing this,

718
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: and I know that's what needs to be done. Let

719
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: me even if I got to quietly find this, let

720
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: me quietly fund that. If I got to build something

721
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: and be a donor and something, let me do something

722
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: that contributes to making sure that we say so, I'm sorry, brother,

723
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: but but Mice is speaking to is like practice today.

724
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: Like when you look at the armed forces, right, you

725
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: have the Marines, you have the Army, the Navy, the

726
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Air force, and they don't play the necessarily the same position,

727
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: but they together they're the armed forces. So this everybody's

728
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: job is not to be on the front line, right,

729
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: And so we don't expect for just any average person

730
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: to say I'm gonna hit the streets tomorrow. I'm interrupt violence.

731
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: That's not your lane. But bring us those of us

732
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: that all the Marines that are willful to go out

733
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: there without a vest, without a gun, make sure that

734
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: we got the aid that we need. We shouldn't have

735
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: to be relying upon government and other people to be

736
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: able to keep the work going on the streets when

737
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: we are hip hop you know, we come from that,

738
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: this is our culture. And so with that type of support,

739
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: that may be your contribution to the work that's going

740
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: on on the ground, and it would be well received.

741
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: And we're at is saying, which is deep that analogy,

742
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: and we talk about all the time, is that you

743
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: have to also realize you're at war at some point.

744
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: You have to realize that you're under attack and you're

745
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: experiencing something that others don't experience. Because if you if

746
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: someone's fighting a war against you and you don't think

747
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: you're at war, you just dying in silence. And we're

748
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: saying that at some point, and this is the point

749
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: for us, it's happen. We've been doing this for years,

750
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: but we're saying it must be the point for the

751
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: rest of us to say, we're at war and we

752
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: have to respond accordingly. The artists are so important because

753
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: what people know is that art imitates life and light

754
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: imitates art, so they know art impacts lifestyle. Say, no,

755
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: art impacts lifestyle. So they say, if we can get

756
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: artists to do X, Y and z, this is going

757
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: to impact lifestyle because they know lifestyle is culture and

758
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: that's really what's happening. And I've had the opportunity to

759
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: talk with brothers who have spent long times and even

760
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: created gangs, and what they some of them over years

761
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: say is that the lifestyle that they're living is not

762
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: really a lifestyle. It's a death style. And at some

763
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: point you have to come to that realization, and then

764
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: you say, if I want to stay alive, I have

765
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: to have a lifestyle. It can't be a death style

766
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: because this is going to take us down this direction.

767
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: So we talk about the problems. I was gonna say, so,

768
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: what are the solution? Yeah, that's why I want to

769
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: talk about man up and what exactly? Oh, man man up.

770
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: It's like you said, brother, it is one of those

771
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: solutions it's a it's a community based nonprofit, you know,

772
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: street organization that I found it now eighteen years ago

773
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: after the unfortunate shooting of an eight year old named

774
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Dashawn Hill in East New York, Brooklyn. Already being on

775
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: the front line, I mean, you know, I felt that

776
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: when that little boy got shot and killed, I wasn't

777
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: doing enough, and so I had to do more. I

778
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: literally just started by babysitting his older brother and sister,

779
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: his little brother and sister that was actually with him

780
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: when he got when he died. And so I just

781
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: created an after school program that spent into a summer camp,

782
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: spent them to an athletic tournament, and spent them too.

783
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: What we have now eighteen years later, you know, a

784
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: multi million dollar nonprofit that's putting multi millions of dollars

785
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: back into the community by hiring people from the neighborhood,

786
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: people who have been there and done that, people that

787
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: got backgrounds, but they're now you know, they're using that

788
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: influence that they once had for the greater good. And

789
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: so that's one of the solutions. We are part of

790
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: the crisis management system. You've had a lot of my

791
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: colleagues up here, you know, before Erica Ford, you know,

792
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: to me come out onto the freedom. You know, we

793
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: had a list of other organizations citywide that we formed

794
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: here in New York City and we go across country

795
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: and we help other people do the same work in

796
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: their neighborhood. So that's part of the solution. But the

797
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: support for these type of organization is shot. You know,

798
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: we are Unfortunately, we're vulnerable because we get our money

799
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: from the government. Again, if we had our superstars like

800
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: what we've seen happening in Florida and Connecticut and other people,

801
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, they've actually come out to support the work

802
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: that's going on on the ground, then we can fill

803
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: up a lot more confident in the work and the

804
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: efforts that we're doing. And talking about the czar position,

805
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm the first jar that was ever

806
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: appointed in government here in New York City. I've worked

807
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: under four different mayors in the past, and this particular

808
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: Mayor Eric Adams, he did something historic, right, He said

809
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: he wanted to be different. So he sought out, you know,

810
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: a person here that he knows that comes from the ground,

811
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: that works in the community, that in the trenches, and

812
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: he says, I want to give you an appointed position.

813
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I want to bring you into my administration place you

814
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: alongside my other high level government officials, and I want

815
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: you to lead this city in this particular charge. And

816
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: so I became the Guns Are Gun Violence Preventions are

817
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: Us in June of this year. And you know, it's

818
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: been it's been amazing. I mean just I didn't even

819
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: know that much more about my own city now that

820
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: I've traveled now throughout the rest, I'm up in the

821
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: Bronx and queenstat knowledge Brooklyn all over, and you know,

822
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: we're thinking about the solutions. We have one hundred plus

823
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: milli billion dollar budget. You know, we're figuring that we

824
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: have the resources, but they're caught up in the agencies,

825
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: and we need to loosen up the pipeline so that

826
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: we make sure that the people who are on the

827
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: ground actually getting some of those resources. But again, we

828
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: cannot rely solely on that. And I just want to

829
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: say part of the reason the czar position is so

830
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: important is because oftentimes, even if you look at New

831
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: York City, where there are a lot of organizations that

832
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: are doing crisis management addressing violence, they often working in

833
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: silos and they're not working together in a network always

834
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: So creating the czar position allows you to centralize those

835
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: things and connect people together. So the same thing is

836
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: true in New York with Keisha Jori, who's running the

837
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: Office of Violent Preventions, which just happened maybe a year ago.

838
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: So this work has been happening across the country, but

839
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: it's often happened in small pockets. So to create a

840
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: position like the tsar for at now you have someone

841
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: in leadership who was coordinating these efforts. More from the

842
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: differences in addition to my brother, is that people like myself,

843
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: normally we weren't placed in government right because we were

844
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: on the menu. You know. Now we literally were at

845
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: the table, and we are literally chairing the table. So

846
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: that's the difference. And so I appreciate the opportunity to

847
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: represent the city in that regard, and I believe that

848
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: when we all come together, my job, just as the

849
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: brother said, is to centralize everything to bring everybody together.

850
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate, you know, this opportunity because again, our work

851
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: has been you know, kind of swept under the rug,

852
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: and you know, people have been dying and they've got

853
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: this mindset that that's what's supposed to happen, you know,

854
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: and their enables. You're supposed to kill each other, but

855
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: that's not so. If even if one person still continues

856
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: to die, that's one death too many. That's why I

857
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: love what Mike started with the boycott. Break that down

858
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: for us, well, it was it's pretty much just an

859
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: extension of what at does. Right is that me having

860
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: an influence in the hip hop coaching, also in the streets,

861
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: and also being on the front line of this movement

862
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: and just understanding that violence is so many different directions.

863
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: It comes from. We boycott against police violence, we voted

864
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: boycott against community violence. It's so many different ways, and

865
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: it all boils down to black violence because Blacks are

866
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: the leading people who are dying from gun violence every

867
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: day in this community. So we have to have the

868
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: same energy for both, right the same way we're going

869
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: out there marching and we're saying we need to have accountability.

870
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: We need to have accountability in our own communities. So

871
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do was utilize because there are

872
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: so many different leaders across this nation at and and

873
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: like he said, Keisha Yuri, and also there are brothers

874
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: out in Vegas as we're working with right now. So

875
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: we want to connect with all of the like minds.

876
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, Pastor McBride, Chico, Yes, you know all of

877
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: these brothers. They are brothers who have a lot of

878
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: them are formally cars rated, some aren't, who understand what

879
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: it is needed in this time right. And I want

880
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: us to come together and created this whole initiative and

881
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: go to communities and empower the people in those communities

882
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: who have the voices, who have the ear is of

883
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: the communities and say, okay, what do you need in

884
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: these communities? Right? And then we do what we can

885
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: to bring those resources to make sure that the murders

886
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: in the violence and stop. Because we understand that poverty

887
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: is violence. You know, it's not violence does not happen

888
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: where well to do people are, It doesn't happen everybody.

889
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: You need as much police. I've been all around this

890
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: world and I realize that the safest places do not

891
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: have police. There are no police on the corner. So

892
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: that's a myth. So what happens is the safest communities

893
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: or communities who don't have poverty, they have the resources.

894
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: So what we want to do a boy cut black

895
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: murder is utilize every voice, every community leader, every you

896
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: know um violence interrupted and come together and say, okay,

897
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: we're going to your community. We want to utilize We

898
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: like the Wu Tang claim of gun violence right, and

899
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: everybody is has their own voice, everybody has their own

900
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: but it's not working in silos. It's us coming together.

901
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: We want to come to your community, and we want

902
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: to show up and want to bring your favorite artists

903
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: to your community. And we want him to sit with us.

904
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: And he wanted him to tell you what we don't

905
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: tell you. So we want to collaborate with artists and

906
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: with influencers and and all of those and come together

907
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: and create this movement that's going to take a lot

908
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: of these guns and take the violence out. So if

909
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: you even look like I got brothers like P and B,

910
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: you know that was one of our own. That brother

911
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: was one who literally would come to the community, that's right,

912
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: would be on the streets out there at the schools,

913
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: you know. And that's something that's why this this particular

914
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: death is real personal to us because it's like, you know,

915
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: now you're taking out the good rappers, you know, you're

916
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: taking out the good artists, those that are involved in community,

917
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, and that's really something that's hit us hard

918
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: when we heard of the brothers passing, and so we

919
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: hope that we don't want to see another P and B.

920
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: You know, we want to make sure I didn't want

921
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: to see another. But it's a disease, Charlemagne, and nobody's

922
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 1: exempt or immune to it. So I mean, this brother

923
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: was sitting down, I just happened to lunch with his family,

924
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: you know. And so if we don't want to see

925
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: another then that's where again we all got to come

926
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: together so we can prevent it. We can't guarantee, you know,

927
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: but we can at least feel good that we've made

928
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: every strong effort in the process. And I agree with

929
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: all of that. I still think though, it still has

930
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: to be some type of self. I mean, you're worth something.

931
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: You gotta move like you're worth You can't be, but

932
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: you got to feel like something. And I say it

933
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: to people all the time. We often confuse cost, worth

934
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: and value, and for for young folks, it's hard to

935
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: feel like you're worth something if you have no value

936
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: and there's no value in your community and your community

937
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have resources, which is why most young people and

938
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: I felt the same way. You don't think you're gonna

939
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: live past twenty one and you might not be in

940
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: the army, But why do you feel that way? Why

941
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: does your community produce that kind of trauma in young

942
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: black boys and young Black girls. It's because there's no

943
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: value in their communities. And precisely what we have to

944
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: do is not only infuse those resources, but when Mice

945
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: talks about building a movement, we're talking about building that

946
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: system that transforms that very thing where young people say,

947
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: I do have value and I do have a reason

948
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: to live, and I shouldn't pick up a gun, and

949
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: I should also tell this other brother, don't pick up

950
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: a gun and don't use that gun because I value

951
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: you and I value you. And Malcolm said it way

952
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: back when he's like, who taught you to hate yourself? Right,

953
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: that's the question we have to ask ourselves, because you

954
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: don't kill somebody you love or someone you care about

955
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: you and you and you kill someone because you don't

956
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: think they're And that's what I say. And we have

957
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: to identify each other as brothers again. Right, we took

958
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: the neighbor out of the neighborhood and we just said

959
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: the hood, so we don't even see ourselves as connecting

960
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: the more. So we gotta put the neighbor backing hood.

961
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: We got to identify each other as brothers. I'm dropping

962
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: the song today called Boycott Black Murder. In the video

963
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: drops is very powerful. I want you to see the video.

964
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Hopefully you'll play the song envy, you know, quote unquote

965
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: hopefully you can't do it if we're gonna try to

966
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: ask in situation, that's what we're in a situation. Really,

967
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: I really want us to understand that the dynamics of

968
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: our community is very serious. Right, we are at war

969
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: against the system and then we at war with each other. Right,

970
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, the minister said, I don't even know who

971
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: the enemy is. Right, you make it very hard for me.

972
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, We when we're going against

973
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: each other. So we have to reidentify each other and

974
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: see each others as brothers again and connect with each

975
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: other's because when you see somebody as your brother, you

976
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: don't want to take his life. You wanted to do

977
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: everything you can to protect and make sure that that

978
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: person is safe. So let's put the neighbor back in neighborhood.

979
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: Let's start community, build community, unity and community again. We

980
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: are so separated, like people got beef with the next

981
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: door neighbor. You can't come up at your house. They

982
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: had war. You're my next door We got and I'm

983
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: like what he left next door? My next door neighbors.

984
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: Our doors was open. They used to just walk in.

985
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: You cannot get a cup of sugar yo yo ya

986
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: got middle con infrigerator, go get it like we lived

987
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: any community. That's not happening no more because the culture

988
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: has told us that that's the wrong thing. And you

989
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: got to think about this, just really think about this.

990
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: You can't value your life when you're willing to kill

991
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: somebody and take a chain that you know you're throwing

992
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: your life away. Listen Trump saying ninety percent of the

993
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: people who kill somebody or rob somebody in our community

994
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: is going to do twenty fifteen, twenty years. And they

995
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: made a conjured decision that that chain, that one second

996
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: or whatever it's worth that. How much do you actually

997
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: value your life like that? I want to know how

998
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: did we get so poison that we put those the

999
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: value in that more than our freedom in our lives

1000
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: and tricking you out of your life. And I want

1001
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: to just again, I want to reinforce and I want

1002
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to my brothers and sisters

1003
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: that man I've incorporated because if you came out to

1004
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: where we are, and we're in East New York, we're

1005
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: in the seven five, which is run of thee not

1006
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: right now top of the city unfortunately, but in pockets

1007
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: where we exist, we called each other brother We called

1008
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: each other's system. You know, from as young as five

1009
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: year old babies, they come into our programs, they adopt

1010
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: that mindset when they come and they leave out, they

1011
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: see each other's family. Because that's what it's about. We

1012
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: literally are and I'm going to put that out there.

1013
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: We are biologically related, every single one of us, even

1014
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: in this room. You know, there's one race. There is

1015
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: a human race, and we have to stop thinking that

1016
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: we are separate. And like when you go to the

1017
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: you go to the funeral, you go to the family reunion,

1018
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: you bump into people that you realize that you are

1019
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: related to us, not knowing that we really all come

1020
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: from the same you know, sort of. And that's what

1021
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: we're doing and we have to continue to do that.

1022
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: We have to raise that ball so that we build

1023
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: that community back. And that's how you create transformation because

1024
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: when you look at the Cure violence model and what's

1025
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: so successful As they recognize areas or precincts or floor

1026
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: block radius that they say there's high rates of violence,

1027
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: and they say, we're gonna show up here, create supports,

1028
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: and we're going to reduce the violence. And that's in

1029
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: fact what happens. You create a culture and a small

1030
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: block radius that reduces gun violence and it works, but

1031
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: we don't get the resources to do it in the

1032
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: places that it needs to happen. This isn't a formula

1033
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: that we're making up. This is a formula that's worked

1034
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: for a decade, and we're saying we just want more

1035
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: resources to continue to do it and end violence in

1036
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: our communities, to keep people alive, to show them their value,

1037
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: to put the neighbor back in neighborhood, and to create

1038
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: transformation that makes other people feel safe too, because if

1039
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: this four block radius doesn't feel safe and it's violence,

1040
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: it's going to spill into your four block radius. So

1041
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: do the right thing here so that everyone can feel safe.

1042
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: Muhammad used to say. Momma used to say, a neighborhood

1043
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: can change a city. A city can change a state.

1044
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: A state can change a nation and nation can change

1045
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: the world nation building. Let's introduce the soul place today today.

1046
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: It's called this song is called Boycott Black Murder. It

1047
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: is a testament of what's going on communities. The video

1048
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: will be dropping today too, is a very powerful video.

1049
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: So I hope that it has the impact that I

1050
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: wanted to have. Man and first, go to Boycott Black

1051
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: Murder dot com. Take the pledge. We need everybody. Take

1052
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: the pledge man and say I can't kill my brother

1053
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: because I love my brother. How do we donate the

1054
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: man up? Man? They can go to our website. It's

1055
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: manapink dot org. That's M A n U p I

1056
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: NC dot org. They can go to my website at

1057
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: dash Mitchell dot com as well. Um, and you know

1058
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: all donations are tax deductible. We got the same status

1059
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: that Red Cross, Salvation Army all the other charities have.

1060
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: We have the same charity status. I don't want donations,

1061
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: we want investments about that in us living man. All right,

1062
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: well it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Yes, sir,