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Speaker 2: Well, we made it to a Wednesday. I thought it

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Speaker 2: of a sudden it wasn't talk about that With Bill

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Speaker 2: NFL defensive back Dominic Foxworth from the Mothership. We'll stop

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Speaker 2: by as well. Got a play of the Day poll question,

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Speaker 2: for what you need. All right, Bill Belichick not a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer at least this year. And got a

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Speaker 2: call yesterday afternoon. Somebody gave me a heads up and

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Speaker 2: he said, Hey, I don't know if it's official yet,

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Speaker 2: but Bill's not going to get in, and I you know,

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Speaker 2: it's one of those where you go, oh, that's right

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Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame. Coaches don't have to wait

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Speaker 2: five years, it's one year. Mike Tomlin's eligible next year

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Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame. Didn't even think anything of it,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it came out that

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Speaker 2: it was true. Bill Belichick didn't get eighty percent of

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Speaker 2: the votes. Now there's fifty voters have to have at

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Speaker 2: least forty who say yay or nay, And apparently you

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Speaker 2: had at least eleven voters who decided that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: was going to have to wait.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: They factored in spygate, They factored into flate Gate, even

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Speaker 2: though Bill wasn't involved into flate Gate except for defending

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Spygate. We've talked about that ad nauseum about

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Speaker 2: what they did. You know, Belichick and the Patriots have

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Speaker 2: been on the receiving end of two of the highest

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Speaker 2: punishments in NFL history as far as draft picks and fines.

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Speaker 2: But for Bill Belichick six super Bowls as a coach,

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Speaker 2: two as a defensive coordinator, eight and he's on the

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Speaker 2: outside looking in. Now we can talk about how egregious

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Speaker 2: this is in voters and what they factor in. And

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Speaker 2: you are supposed to factor in football stuff, not ancillary

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Speaker 2: stuff like off the field. They probably did that with

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Speaker 2: Michael Irvin, They probably did that with Terrell Owens to

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Speaker 2: a certain degree. I don't know if they factored in

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Speaker 2: that with Lawrence Taylor. But this also pushes back the

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Speaker 2: other coaches who were up for Hall of Fame consideration.

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Speaker 2: Does Belichick get in next year? These are the other

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Speaker 2: coaches who were semi finalists, Tom Kaflin, Mike Holmgren, Chuck Knox,

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Speaker 2: Buddy Parker, Dan Reeves, Marty Schottenheimer, George Seffert, Mike Shanahan,

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Speaker 2: Which means they go into the pool next year because

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Speaker 2: Belichick did not get in. Talking to a voter yesterday

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Speaker 2: who did talk about the whole process, a ten am

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Speaker 2: for somebody. There were a couple people who spoke up

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Speaker 2: against people. I've been lobbying for transparency. I make this

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Speaker 2: c span make it, you know, PBS. Let us see

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Speaker 2: what goes on like one day. Let us understand the

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Speaker 2: importance of this. It's the Hall of Fame, the importance

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Speaker 2: for these other players. But if you get five finalists

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Speaker 2: and you have to vote for three of the five

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Speaker 2: to be eighty percent, well, as I was told by

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Speaker 2: and then nobody gets in. So Ken Anderson doesn't get in,

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Speaker 2: or Roger Craig or Else Greenwood. These are all Hall

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Speaker 2: of famers, but it should just be five. If you

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Speaker 2: get it to five, celebrate five instead of not celebrating anybody.

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Speaker 2: And there's such a backlog. This is a big problem

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Speaker 2: this year. But this is separate from this. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Senior Committee voting on these players. You know it's

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Speaker 2: their last go round. Many of you didn't see L. C.

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Speaker 2: because that's what it felt like. You use this referendum,

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Speaker 2: this platform to say, hey, Bill, you're not bigger than

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Speaker 2: the game. Bill Pollian in the Hall of Fame said

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Speaker 2: he's not even sure if he voted for Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: He thought he did. Wait a minute, former Colts GM,

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Speaker 2: and you don't remember if you voted for Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't that long ago, Bill. And then

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Speaker 2: We need eleven votes. Bill won't get in. We'll teach

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Speaker 2: speculation reporting on that. But when Bill Pullian said that

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Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure if he voted for Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 2: there weren't that many candidates to remember if you voted

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Speaker 2: yay or nay. So that's part of it as well.

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Speaker 2: You're going to get you know, people probably have a

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Speaker 2: thought Bill cheated. I mean, Robert Kraft should be in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame when you think about what he's done.

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Speaker 2: He's not in. Now he might get in this year.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what the results are. All we're hearing

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Speaker 2: this is it's obvious, even you know, with his foibles,

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Speaker 2: even with every you know, all the blemishes here, he's

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Speaker 2: still first ballot Hall of Famer. And if you don't

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Speaker 2: think he's the greatest coach in NFL history, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: is on that list. He did it, he did it

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Speaker 2: at a very high level. Now does first thing I

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Speaker 2: mean for Tom Brady? And he goes, I didn't even

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Speaker 2: think of that. I said, well, be consistent. If this

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Speaker 2: to vote for Belichick next year? If you didn't vote

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Speaker 2: for him ever again if that's how you feel. Did

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Speaker 2: I mean, he benefited from spygate. Deflategate was silly to

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Speaker 2: begin with, but still you lie to the commissioner, you

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Speaker 2: get spended, your team, you know, gets punished. Then don't

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Speaker 2: put Tom Brady in next year, you know, or when

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Speaker 2: he's eligible if you're not. If you're going to hold

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Speaker 2: higher standard as well. Brady, though I know, had a

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Speaker 2: letter that was read that he spoke up on Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick's behalf, but he wasn't involved in the zoom call

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Speaker 2: from what I'm told, But it just felt like there

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Speaker 2: was an agenda here with Bill Belichick. I just hate

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Speaker 2: the fact that these other players, former players, aren't going

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Speaker 2: to get their day because it's going to be all

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Speaker 2: about Bill Belichick. And that's unfortunate because the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: it's a museum. Do you qualify, Yes, you qualify. Did

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Speaker 2: you do something incredible? Yes, then we should celebrate that.

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Speaker 2: Did Belichick cheat? Yes, in accordance to you know, the commissioner,

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Speaker 2: he cheated. Okay, he paid a price. Julius Peppers got popped,

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Speaker 2: He's the first ballot Hall of Famer. Do you hold

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Speaker 2: him accountable? He gets a whole passed. I just hate

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Speaker 2: when we pick and choose justice here when it comes

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Speaker 2: to sports now, did the Astros cheat? They did cheat?

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Speaker 2: Or Barry Bonds? Did he cheat? Yes, he cheated? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Should you have put an asterisk by Bill Belichick's name

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Speaker 2: like they did Pete Rose? If he did something and

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Speaker 2: you're going to hold him acountable, then just let us know.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to let you win. We're not going

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Speaker 2: to let you, you know, first year whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: but to come out and be the morality police here.

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Speaker 2: And it feels like those who might have been on

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Speaker 2: the receiving end of a Patriot win had a problem

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Speaker 2: with Bill Belichick, including those with the Colts. Yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 4: The initial report by Doc Van Natt and ESPN accused

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Speaker 4: Bill Polling of telling his Spellow voters that Belichick should

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Speaker 4: serve a one year penance for Spygate. I really agree

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Speaker 4: with what you said earlier. If you're not going to

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Speaker 4: vote him in this year, be consistent, don't vote him

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Speaker 4: in next year if you're one of the eleven voters

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Speaker 4: who didn't stick with whatever you thought.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know Robert Kraft is

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Speaker 2: going to be held accountable as the owner of the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Robert Craft's eighty four years of age, and he was

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Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame finalist after fourteen years, and it's

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Speaker 2: unknown if he or any other finalist received the necessary

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Speaker 2: it's just picking and choosing, and it kind of puts

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Speaker 2: yourself in a really delicate predicament here when it comes

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Speaker 2: to who cheated, didn't cheat, kind of cheated? You know,

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Speaker 2: all of this year, your voters celebrate the game. If

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Speaker 2: I have a problem with what happened with Spygate, but

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Speaker 2: I voted for Bill. His resume is too good, you know,

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Speaker 2: incredible coach, greatest coach ever, one of the greatest coaches ever.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. But oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: a couple of coaching hires yesterday, and should Or Sanders

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Speaker 2: is going to be a Pro Bowl quarterback. That's what

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Speaker 2: I thought the day was going to be. And then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute, wow.

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Speaker 2: And then even hearing from a source this morning who

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Speaker 2: more background information on it. And also you know, they

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Speaker 2: they're going to change they're going to change the format

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Speaker 2: next year from what I'm told, And maybe you have five.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're narrowing it down to five. Doesn't that

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Speaker 2: be good enough? Because I don't want this backlog, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want this to affect other players coaches who

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Speaker 2: may not be alive when they get into the Pro

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Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame, celebrate Elsie Greenwood passed away, his

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Speaker 2: widow still alive, not going to get that moment to celebrate,

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Speaker 2: or Kenny Anderson, the former Bengal quarterback, or Roger Craig.

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Speaker 2: You can't say, well next year. Next year it's like

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Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald will get in probably first battle of the

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Speaker 2: back because every year it's somebody where you go, well,

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Speaker 2: We'll settle on a poll question your phone calls always welcome.

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Speaker 2: Peter King, frequent guest on the show and a Hall

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Speaker 2: at all. So congratulations to those who didn't want him in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen these out there, and this one goes

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Speaker 4: spygate as the rationale. Well, it's really about how Bill

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to get that Bill Pollion didn't vote

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Speaker 2: Bill was involved into Fleetgate, but spygate, Spygate one, Spygate

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Speaker 4: Should Bill Belichick respond today?

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Speaker 2: No, in any way, No, No, Let everybody carry his

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Speaker 2: You know, if Bill wants to come out and say disappointed,

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Speaker 4: A follow up question, this is mine. Okay, weirdly, did

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Speaker 4: And after this came down yesterday, everybody, football people, non

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Speaker 2: And anytime I voted for an award, I let people

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, this is another one. You went over the

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Speaker 2: They had get eleven.

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Speaker 4: Okay, based off that, it's a coincidence. It's not a

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if you went in and you

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Speaker 4: If you were a Hall of Fame voter that didn't

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Speaker 2: I would, But I can only speak if I was voting.

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Speaker 2: So but the Hall of Fame, you know, there's I

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Speaker 2: You're in a hotel room in Canton, Ohio, and they're

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Speaker 2: I talked to a candidate this is years ago, and

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Speaker 6: Yes, Todd, is there an exact cutoff time so you

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Speaker 6: don't get to knock by two thirties in time, it's

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Speaker 2: Well, no, there's a time element.

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Speaker 6: And they know exactly once that time hits you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: Imagine if you're somebody like Chris Carter, who for I

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Speaker 2: You know, I know it's it. There's so much attached

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Speaker 4: What I found interesting about the reaction on social media,

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know Bill Belichick. I had very very

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Speaker 2: I might have had a run in with somebody. It

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Speaker 2: part is you sometimes look at those voters and you go,

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Speaker 9: Bill Belichick has won like ten percent of all Super Bowls.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's been a part of eight out of fifty

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Speaker 2: nine if you look at him as a coordinator with.

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Speaker 9: All the ones that were ever played, of all the

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Speaker 9: that there have ever been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he's won six as a head coach

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Speaker 2: out of the fifty nine. So a little better than

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Speaker 2: ten percent.

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Speaker 9: Not that great sorry, I'm sorry, it's my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Yeah, Pully, I know this is before your time,

435
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Speaker 4: but I've read stories about Ted Williams, the great Hall

436
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Speaker 4: of Fame baseball player, that he was not very cooperative

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Speaker 4: or friendly with the media and was disliked by some

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Speaker 4: of the media. I looked it up.

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Speaker 3: He was not.

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Speaker 4: He got ninety three percent of the vote. That means

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Speaker 4: that twenty people didn't vote for Ted Williams on the

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Speaker 4: first ballot. A war hero WHI shouldn't even count, but should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Ted wasn't nice to anybody, right, And the

444
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Speaker 2: writers in Boston, I think the year he batted four

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Speaker 2: oh six, they voted Joe DiMaggio now Demagio the fifty

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Speaker 2: six game hitting streak. But even the local writers and

447
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Speaker 2: normally the local writers, you know, it's a home field advantage,

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Speaker 2: you know, But Teddy ballgame was. He didn't care. He

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Speaker 2: didn't care. He is playing and if you liked him, great,

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Speaker 2: if you didn't. He was not trying to curry favor.

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Speaker 2: And there are players who are in you know, modern day,

452
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Speaker 2: who are very media friendly and it's helped them get

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Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. I really believe that. Let's

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Speaker 2: see a couple of phone calls here. Once again, Joe

455
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Speaker 2: Brady elevated as the head coach of the Bills. I

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Speaker 2: don't like this, But I don't like it because if

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Speaker 2: you're going to change something and get rid of Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 2: you're going to promote your offensive coordinator and you're going

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Speaker 2: to keep your GM. So have you changed anything here?

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Speaker 2: And Josh Allen reportedly was involved in this, and Joe Brady,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's number one fan the Josh Allen fan Club.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what changes here because you were

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Speaker 2: running Joe Brady's offense correct and the players you were

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Speaker 2: brought in were brought in by Brandon Bean. What's changing

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Speaker 2: except for your moving into a new stadium. So I

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Speaker 2: didn't I thought the hiring was like okay. And then

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy going to Pittsburgh. It was emotional for him

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Speaker 2: because he was coming back home and he talked about

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Speaker 2: well being the Steelers head coach and he got very emotional.

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Speaker 10: You know, oftentimes coaches and players, you know, you put

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Speaker 10: on new team colors and it takes a minute to

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Speaker 10: feel comfortable in those new colors. But to be blessed

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Speaker 10: beyond any measure one day to put on the colors

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Speaker 10: you wore since he brought home. I'll Paul Juts when

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Speaker 10: you come home from Mercy Hospital. I do want to think.

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Speaker 10: I want to thank art Or Roney, Homwork Hahn, Dan Rooney,

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Speaker 10: and the entire Steelers organization for the trust they placed

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Speaker 10: in me to represent one of the most stored franchise

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Speaker 10: in all sports. I understand and embrace the responsibility, the

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Speaker 10: privilege in the way that comes with the stewardship the city,

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Speaker 10: this franchise, this fan base made the world to me

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Speaker 10: because Pittsburgh's my world and it's just awesome to be

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Speaker 10: back here.

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Speaker 2: And then he talked about his goal as the Steeler

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Speaker 2: head coach.

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Speaker 10: I do want to thank two men I'm very fortunate

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Speaker 10: to call friends, Mike Tomlin and Bill Cower. They've represented

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Speaker 10: this organization with such class and I'm honored, honored to

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Speaker 10: follow in their footsteps. They left the preferable.

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Speaker 2: Cupboard full.

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Speaker 10: For sure, my focus as singler and it's time to

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Speaker 10: bring another championship back to this great city. With that,

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Speaker 10: I just want to make sure that when we do

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Speaker 10: get that trophy at you know, the seventh trophy in

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Speaker 10: the case, we'll start that victory. Pray it'll live us

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Speaker 10: a thirty seventh Green Foot Avenue.

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Speaker 2: All right, we did the Mike McCarthy cliche game. Prior

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Speaker 2: to the press conference, Seaton gave us a rich tradition

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Speaker 2: of football history in Pittsburgh. I feel like I was

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Speaker 2: close on that. Marvin upholding the standard. Todd talked about

501
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Speaker 2: chasing Super Bowl seven. Paul talked about building a football culture.

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Speaker 2: I gave you two of them. This is hard working

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Speaker 2: city and we're just going to be playing football. We're

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Speaker 2: hardworking football team, and that's what we're going to be doing.

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Speaker 2: And then I brought up that he would. I modified

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Speaker 2: mine by saying he's going to say that I'm back

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Speaker 2: home now. All right, I'm coming back home now. Here

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Speaker 2: is your winner in the Mike McCarthy cliche game yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I'm well aware that anything short of bringing the Super

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Speaker 6: Bowl title back to this great city and its fans

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Speaker 6: is unacceptable, and I can assure you that I will

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Speaker 6: do everything in my power to do just that. If

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Speaker 6: my math is correct, the Steels organization has won six championships.

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Speaker 6: That being said, my new favorite number is lucky seven.

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Speaker 6: Hold on tight to your terrible towels, because I assure

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Speaker 6: you we're about to go on a wild, exciting ride.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's his speech. I was looking for a cliche.

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Speaker 6: Lucky seven. Okay, it's all about lucky number seven, seventh title.

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Speaker 4: All right, so Todd one, there's a debate in the

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Speaker 4: back room. Todd's thing was not a cliche, but he

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Speaker 4: nailed what Mike McCarthy eventually said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I mean I'll give it to you on

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Speaker 2: a technicality. I think he got it.

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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, I think he got I mean it's

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Speaker 9: pretty cliche to go up there. So well, well, we're

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Speaker 9: trying to win. I mean, I came here to win

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Speaker 9: day one. How long will it take the turn this roung.

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Speaker 9: I came to win day one. Nobody can win the

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Speaker 9: Super Bowl on day one, but cold football coaches want

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Speaker 9: to win this one.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I thought, we're a hard work

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Speaker 2: in city, and we're gonna just gonna be a hard

533
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Speaker 2: work and football team is what we're gonna do. I'm

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Speaker 2: back home, y asked Marvin Stewardship. Was on my that's

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Speaker 2: my next guess. Yes, I am so mad. I didn't

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Speaker 2: go with the old faithful of privilege in stewardship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was so obvious.

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Speaker 2: Miss Chris and Syracuse. Hi Chris, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Thanks as always, Dan. Yeah, for a possible pole question

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Speaker 11: of yesterday's presser in Pittsburgh, the possibility of Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 11: and Mike McCarthy being reunited next season. Viking coach Kevin

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Speaker 11: McConnell has stated Kevin O'Connell has stated not that he's

544
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Speaker 11: looking for a capable backup for JJ McCarthy, but competition

545
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Speaker 11: for him And Dan, you mentioned last week tying maybe

546
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Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers to the Vikes, and it makes sense. Rodgers

547
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 11: wanted to play in Minnesota last year. And I'll have

548
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Speaker 11: a ton of weapons, good offensive line, very good defense,

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Speaker 11: So unlike his last few years in Green Bay and

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Speaker 11: with the Jets and the Steelers, he won't be expected

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Speaker 11: to carry the team. Plus they'll play a majority of

552
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Speaker 11: his games indoors, which has never had that luxury. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: if he has anything left in the tank, he could

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Speaker 11: put the Vikes over the top. And the Pro Football

555
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Speaker 11: Hall of Fame has always said, unlike baseball, they never

556
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Speaker 11: take anything off the field into account, So you wonder

557
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 11: if Bill Pollion's influence is behind the snub. And I

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Speaker 11: think Tony Dungee's a voter and has a relationship with

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Speaker 11: Bill Polly, and I wonder what his thoughts are.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but this was on the field. Spygate was

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Speaker 2: on the field. That's a football crime. The flate gate.

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Speaker 2: Bill wasn't involved in that other than trying to defend

563
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady. But spy gate, Spygate one, Spygate two, that's

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Speaker 2: a football crime. Mark and Vermont, I Mark, what's on

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Speaker 2: your mind?

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Speaker 12: Hi, Dann, longtime caller. Well, I've actually been listening since Gate.

567
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Speaker 12: That's when I started listening to talk radio, Sports Talk

568
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Speaker 12: radio and anyway five eleven, I have a comment and

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Speaker 12: a couple and a question. My question was, was Bill

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Speaker 12: in the hotel in Canton waiting for his knock?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, those those are the players uh in

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Speaker 2: Canton who wait for the knock that this is the

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Speaker 2: Senior Committee. So no, that that he's not in Canton

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Speaker 2: now or wasn't good.

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Speaker 12: I'm glad for that because he doesn't deserve that. And

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Speaker 12: I also I had heard that Bill Parcells also didn't

578
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Speaker 12: get in on the first ballot because the thinking was

579
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Speaker 12: he might come back and coach, and I would love

580
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Speaker 12: to see Jill come back and get Shula's record. And

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Speaker 12: then my other comment, Dan was that one thing that

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Speaker 12: I've loved and missed in recent years is your Bill impersonations.

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Speaker 12: And I hope that out of this we start to

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Speaker 12: hear a little bit more of you impersonating.

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Speaker 8: Bill Belichick at his pressers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark. I remember talking to Bill Parcells We're

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Speaker 2: in Tampa and he announced that he was coming back

588
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Speaker 2: to coach, and I remember asking him about putting aside

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Speaker 2: going into the Hall of Fame or being Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame eligible, and he couldn't care less Like we thought, boy,

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Speaker 2: you're going to reset the clock there. But coaches only

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Speaker 2: have to wait a year. Mike Tomlin is eligible next

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Speaker 2: year for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why they do that, but Tomlin will be up

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Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame next year. All Right, we'll

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Speaker 2: take a break. More phone calls coming up, and uh,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna bring back something Reggie Miller said

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Speaker 2: yesterday that apparently set the Internet on fire at over

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Speaker 2: a million views of what Reggie Miller had to say

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Speaker 2: about Derreck Rose and Lebron James. We'll have that for

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Speaker 13: I would be surprised if he doesn't, he would be

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Speaker 13: the only MVP not to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 13: I doubt he'll be first ballot, but he'll get in

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Speaker 13: I would be surprised. At some point he's going to

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Speaker 1: All MVPs get in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, was Reggie wrong with the time element there? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: six to eight years because Derek Rose wasn't healthy. But

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Speaker 2: know that was going to be something I brought up.

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Speaker 2: But there was a three year window where you could

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Speaker 2: say that Derek Rose was equal with Lebron James. He

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Speaker 2: was an MVP, the youngest MVP, and then he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: But six to eight years he wasn't battling Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: So Reg misspoke there, Reg is my guy. But I

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Speaker 2: think if you look at Derek Rose's career, he was

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Speaker 2: a comet. He was, you know, burst onto the scene,

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Speaker 2: and you know, those first three years he elevated himself

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Speaker 2: to one of the best players in the game. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: See, it definitely felt like there was a moment there

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Speaker 9: where it was like, man, this might be his league

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Speaker 9: now or this is certainly the next guy for sure,

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 2: But there were over a million views of that yesterday,

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Speaker 2: probably more than that. You you know, you put Bron

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Speaker 2: into the equation with Derek Rose. But if I had

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Speaker 2: Reggie on now he's traveling, you know, I would say,

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Speaker 2: you don't mean six to eight years, because that's not true.

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Speaker 2: But there was a three year window there where Dereck

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Speaker 2: Rose was a force to be reckoned with and one

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Speaker 2: of the best players in the game. Yeah point.

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Speaker 4: And to back that argument, Derek Rose won the MVP

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Speaker 4: in his third season. Lebron won in his sixth. When

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Speaker 4: Lebron went on his run from eight to twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 4: he won four of five MVPs. The only year he

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Speaker 4: didn't win it was the year Derek Rose did. Derek

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Speaker 4: Rose was given one hundred million dollar deal by Adidas.

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Speaker 4: Like Seten said, he was the next guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, then he got hurt. But no, he didn't

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Speaker 2: have longevity there. But I know people are roughing up

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Speaker 2: Reggie because Reggie has him doing something great six to

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Speaker 2: eight years and that wasn't the case. But Reggie's my guy.

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Speaker 2: He made a mistake here. I would say it to

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Speaker 2: him if he joined us. Let's see Greg and Tampa.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Greg, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning Geep. I wanted to get your thoughts

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Speaker 8: on what you think about what Ryan Lee said. I

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Speaker 8: don't know if you heard or not. Apparently he's one

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Speaker 8: of the Hall of Fame voters and on his Twitter

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Speaker 8: he said he didn't vote for Belichick.

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Speaker 3: It comes time.

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Speaker 8: I'm if you're able to penetrate the wall of the

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Speaker 8: voting here or anyone's resentments can be fueled with revenge.

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Speaker 8: Mom ain't getting in either, lost the fowls, no.

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Speaker 2: Way, no, how Okay. Ryan Leaf is not a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame voter. He was he was kidding, but he's

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Speaker 2: not a Hall of Fame voter. But thank you for

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Speaker 2: the phone call, Greg Jamie and Virginia Beach. Hi Jamie, Hey,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Dan.

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Speaker 3: I just got a predition to make up Bill Belichick

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Speaker 3: snub of all time. I really think it's prideful of

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Speaker 3: a person as he is. You're probably gonna see one

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Speaker 3: of his better coaching performances this year in college football.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think he's gonna be waiting and

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Speaker 3: waiting for this college football season to start, and it's

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Speaker 3: just gonna be an impressive thing to watch this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that this is going to be motivation

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Speaker 2: for him. I don't know if he's now going to

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Speaker 2: try harder than he did when he first got there

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Speaker 2: to North Carolin. I know, yeah, I don't see that

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Speaker 2: at all. Yes, Marv, do you also see this omission

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Speaker 2: being a distraction. Maybe the Patriot's going to get way

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Speaker 2: too many questions about this during superlel Week, like Vrabel

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Speaker 2: might get a bunch of like he's not in the Hall,

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know, people are going to ask Robert

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Speaker 2: Kraft if he makes himself available, or going to ask

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Speaker 2: you Robert Craft should be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know that we're looking at Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: Robert Kraft has been eligible for quite some time, and

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Speaker 2: now he is back in the Super Bowl again. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: he gets in. You know, I always look at this

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Speaker 2: and I know it's morbid, but you start to look

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Speaker 2: at this posthumously and having watched these players, you know

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Speaker 2: they get up there in age. Steve McMichael of the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Health wise, you know you have CTE, you have you

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Speaker 2: know you have all of this certainly with football is

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Speaker 2: to be able to celebrate and actually truly be able

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Speaker 2: to celebrate with your family, teammates. But Robert Kraft deserves

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Speaker 2: to be in the Hall of Fame. Belichick will get

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Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. We'll talk to a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame voter. He'll join us, coming up here in

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Speaker 2: ten minutes from now. Also South Palantonio, another Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame voter, will get their thoughts. And should we know

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Speaker 2: who didn't vote for or who did vote for a candidate.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that as well. One hour in the books,

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Speaker 2: two more to go in this Wednesday. Fritzie Seat and

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Speaker 2: Marv Paully yours truly, Dan Patrick's show