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Speaker 1: for you today. We're gonna be talking about what America's
Speaker 1: plan is to stop these mass shootings. Ronnie Chang is
Speaker 1: celebrating Asian American and AFIC Island a month and our
Speaker 1: guest tonight is former adviser to President Donald Trump, Kelly
Speaker 1: Anne Conway. Yeah, so that's gonna be interesting. So let's
Speaker 1: do this people, Let's jump straight into today's big headlines.
Speaker 1: But there's no denying that there is a lot going
Speaker 1: on in the world right now. For instance, Russia is
Speaker 1: still invading Ukraine and in response, the European Union has
Speaker 1: just announced that they will be banning almost all Russian
Speaker 1: oil imports, which is, if successful, is basically going to
Speaker 1: turn Russia's currency into the TikTok crying filter all the time.
Speaker 1: And if there wasn't enough for Europe to be dealing with,
Speaker 1: there's also a growing outbreak of monkey poks, yes, disease
Speaker 1: that's killing off everyone's n f t s. So please
Speaker 1: everyone vaccinate your monkey remember. And by the way, they're
Speaker 1: actually saying that it's being spread mostly through sex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so at least now when you show up to the
Speaker 1: doctor with monkey parks, your doctor can be like mom man. Oh.
Speaker 1: And on top of all of that, someone threw a
Speaker 1: cake at the Mona Lisa, Yes, which apparently was to
Speaker 1: protest climate change. It sounded weird, but apparently most people
Speaker 1: don't know this about the Mona Lisa. But if you
Speaker 1: widen out on that picture of her, she's actually driving
Speaker 1: a hummer. Not cool. That's where the pictures from. So yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so much happening, so much happening in the world,
Speaker 1: but America can't focus on any of that stuff because
Speaker 1: once again America is reeling from mass shootings all the
Speaker 1: way from Buffalo, New York to your valley, Texas. People
Speaker 1: are asking how long can this keep going on? And
Speaker 1: here's the good news. In response, a major bill has
Speaker 1: been announced which would ban the new sales of handguns
Speaker 1: and allow the government to forcefully buy back assault rifles
Speaker 1: in Canada. Yeah, this is completely real. Canada saw what
Speaker 1: happened here and they're shutting down guns there. Yeah. At
Speaker 1: this point, America is basically a scared straight program that
Speaker 1: gets other countries on the right path. Yeah. It's like
Speaker 1: you have to smell someone so bad you know that
Speaker 1: you decide that you need to take a shower. That's
Speaker 1: what America is with gun laws. Now to other countries,
Speaker 1: they're like, we need to do something about guns. And
Speaker 1: while most Americans liberals and conservatives are open to common
Speaker 1: sense restrictions on guns to keep Americans safe, there is
Speaker 1: still a small, yet powerful group of gun fights who
Speaker 1: believed the problem with gun violence is not because of guns. No,
Speaker 1: it's because of everything else. Part of the problem is
Speaker 1: how this generation that kids exists mostly online. They see
Speaker 1: actual violence as it's portrayed in the movies they watched,
Speaker 1: the music they listen to, in the games of video
Speaker 1: games they play. When I played war growing up with
Speaker 1: my friends, the boys were allowed to be boys. I
Speaker 1: said to my friend Andy, Bang, you're dead. But the
Speaker 1: differences we knew it was fake and Andy got up afterwards,
Speaker 1: and we went and jumped in the fire hydrant or
Speaker 1: whoever had a pool? What? First of all, why do
Speaker 1: I feel like Andy's fake? And second of all, what
Speaker 1: does this loser talking about kids know that games are fake?
Speaker 1: My man? No one is turning off grand theft like shit.
Speaker 1: I just ran over eighty pedestrians. Should I get a lawyer?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm too young for jail. What am
Speaker 1: I gonna do? The argument that American music and video
Speaker 1: games causes gun violence totally falls apart when you realize
Speaker 1: the entire world listens to American music and plays American
Speaker 1: video games. Yeah, but they have nowhere the same level
Speaker 1: of America's mass shootings. And don't get it twisted. It's
Speaker 1: the same music. It's not like in Sweden they're Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg is like rattat tat tat, and I never hesitate
Speaker 1: to put a hat on a cat. It's the same music.
Speaker 1: Why they're not getting the same results? And please, please
Speaker 1: please gun gun fanatics. They don't just want to ban
Speaker 1: video games and music. No, No, it's going further. They
Speaker 1: also want to replace those things with what they say
Speaker 1: are some lost values. The only solution is Christ Jesus
Speaker 1: and being able to get some type of spirituality and
Speaker 1: prayer back into our schools. Right now, today, we live
Speaker 1: in a country where our millennials participation rate for churches
Speaker 1: is under thirty in a lot of locations. This is
Speaker 1: the lowest church participation we've ever had as a nation.
Speaker 1: Uh and so uh it just shows you why you
Speaker 1: see so much chaos in our streets. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that that could be one solution. We need to bring
Speaker 1: Jesus into our schools. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: Jesus would feel about that. Yeah, because if I was Jesus,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, yo, forget that. Look at what you
Speaker 1: guys did to me with nails. I'm not coming back
Speaker 1: when there's guns. Look our fifteen ship. I learned my lesson.
Speaker 1: But again, if you think gun violence in America is
Speaker 1: high because people aren't going to church, then why don't
Speaker 1: they have the same gun violence in Europe because they're
Speaker 1: nobody goes to church. It's like a thing that's done now.
Speaker 1: If you go to church in Germany, you'll be the
Speaker 1: only one that even the preacher will be like, oh jeez,
Speaker 1: you'll scare the ships out of me. Nobody comes in
Speaker 1: here anymore. I even forgot there was a doll. Oh,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was crazy. Huh. The point is,
Speaker 1: gun lovers have been blaming the same causes over and
Speaker 1: over again for decades, although this time, to their credits,
Speaker 1: they've come up with a new thing to blame. It's
Speaker 1: not the guns, it's the books. We stopped teaching values
Speaker 1: in so many of our schools. Now we're now we're
Speaker 1: teaching wokeness. We're we're in doctoring our child with things
Speaker 1: like CRT. Yeah, that's right. That's how evil critical race
Speaker 1: theory is. It's only been around for like a year
Speaker 1: and it's already caused three decades of school shootings. It's
Speaker 1: really tough. It goes back in time. It's so powerful. Book. Man.
Speaker 1: I know you guys want to blame anything but guns,
Speaker 1: but it still has to make sense. Can we agree
Speaker 1: on that? Right? You can't just blame stuff that you
Speaker 1: are already mad at. These guys are like, maybe there
Speaker 1: wouldn't be so many, you know, violent shootings in schools
Speaker 1: if wife would stop floating with the landscaper. I mean,
Speaker 1: is it just me that making it sound like there
Speaker 1: used to be a lesson that was about the importance
Speaker 1: of not shooting people. But they never got to it
Speaker 1: because they spent too long in teaching slavery. This doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. And if it's not religion, and if
Speaker 1: it's not video games, and it's not the music, what
Speaker 1: else could it be. Well, according to some gun lovers,
Speaker 1: maybe it was the school's faults. One of the things
Speaker 1: that that everyone agreed is don't have all of these
Speaker 1: unlocked back doors. Have one door into and out of
Speaker 1: the school. I would like to see this a national
Speaker 1: push towards instead of parents buying their kids all these
Speaker 1: tools and toys and games, invest in the classroom to
Speaker 1: make it safer. They have blankets that you can put
Speaker 1: up on the wall that are colorful and beautiful, but
Speaker 1: there ballistic blankets. We need to install man traps, a
Speaker 1: series of interlocking doors at the school entrance that are
Speaker 1: triggered by a trip wire. Trip wire can be a gunshot,
Speaker 1: broken glass, or manual switch choice by a school employee,
Speaker 1: and it traps the shooter like a rat. Are these
Speaker 1: people hearing themselves? You think kids contel fantasy from reality.
Speaker 1: But your suggestions like how about we make a school
Speaker 1: with steal doors that slam and windows that turn into
Speaker 1: a concrete or even better, the whole school becomes a transformer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that way, when the school shooter comes, the whole
Speaker 1: school can run away from man. Not to mention, have
Speaker 1: you guys ever been in a school? Huh? Even as
Speaker 1: the fire alarm gets pulled as a prank like once
Speaker 1: a week, you think the jocks are gonna be constantly
Speaker 1: tossing nerds into the man trap? Do you listen to yourselves?
Speaker 1: And even if those ideas don't work. Even if they don't,
Speaker 1: there's one solution that conservatives love to come back to
Speaker 1: time and time again, and over the weekend, it was
Speaker 1: proposed yet again by none other than Donald Jahead Trump.
Speaker 1: What we need now is a top to bottom security
Speaker 1: overhaul at schools all across our country. And above all,
Speaker 1: from this day forward, every school in America should have
Speaker 1: a police officer or an armed resource officer or duty
Speaker 1: at all times. Yeah. Yeah, you know. You always hear
Speaker 1: people saying this after school shooting. What we need is
Speaker 1: armed police officers in the school. What's amazing about the
Speaker 1: debate this time is that they're still saying it's even
Speaker 1: though in the shooting that just happened, there was an
Speaker 1: armed police officer and it didn't help. Classic Trump proposing
Speaker 1: a solution after it already failed. Yea, I mean, he
Speaker 1: would have been a lot of fun in the lifeboats
Speaker 1: after the Titanic. Next time, we should just ram that
Speaker 1: iceberg really hard. What's the worst that could happen? What
Speaker 1: are you, egg Jack? What do you think? And as
Speaker 1: we've all heard by now, there wasn't just an armed
Speaker 1: resource officer on the scene. There was a whole platoon
Speaker 1: of police officers who responded to the shooting but didn't
Speaker 1: do ship to stop it while it was still going on.
Speaker 1: And I'm willing to guess it's because they were also
Speaker 1: scared of a gunman armed with an a R fifteen.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's why we have to ask ourselves
Speaker 1: as a society. Do we want to live in a
Speaker 1: world where anyone can legally buy weapons that the police
Speaker 1: are scared of? Huh? And just by the way, Just
Speaker 1: by the way. For me, it's been amazing to see
Speaker 1: how some people love guns so much that they've gone
Speaker 1: from blue Lives Matter to screw these bitch ass cops
Speaker 1: if they're not here to get shocked, and what's the
Speaker 1: point of having them around? The police oh, now you
Speaker 1: don't care about the cops lives, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me. I would rather say, get rid
Speaker 1: of the Air fifteen and make these officers jobs a
Speaker 1: lot more safe. Maybe it's just me. It's why how
Speaker 1: people flip. You just flip whenever you feel like it's
Speaker 1: so so crazy. How the cops they didn't do anything right.
Speaker 1: They shoot people because they think they have a gun,
Speaker 1: and then now they're like, they know it's a gun.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, we can't shoot them if it's a wallet. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but I mean, so, look, I know that America is
Speaker 1: never going to do what Canada's doing. I don't even
Speaker 1: expect that. Right. There's a gun culture in this country
Speaker 1: that is far too ingrained to ever truly get rid
Speaker 1: of it. And I also know that we're not going
Speaker 1: to stop gun violence altogether. I'm not naive, but I
Speaker 1: would hope. I would just hope that after a tragedy
Speaker 1: like this, Americans could agree that losing some of these
Speaker 1: is worth it to prevent losing more of these. Don't
Speaker 1: go away because after the break, Rannie Chain is celebrating
Speaker 1: a a p I month, and Kelly and Conway will
Speaker 1: be joining us on the show. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gain the show. Throughout the month
Speaker 1: of May, people have been celebrating Asian American and Pacific
Speaker 1: Island of Heritage months, and tonight, for the last day
Speaker 1: of May, Ronnie Chang decided to school us the way
Speaker 1: only he can. That's right, people, We've got our own month,
Speaker 1: and in honor of a bi month, I'm gonna teach
Speaker 1: you about the most underrepresented demographic of all time Asian
Speaker 1: Americans in sports. And I don't just mean the heavy
Speaker 1: hitters like Jeremy Lynn, Michielle Kwan, Tiger Woods. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: claiming him. You've got a problem with that, Take it
Speaker 1: up with the u N. Instead, I want to focus
Speaker 1: on the underdogs who blaze the trail for all the
Speaker 1: other Asian American athletes to come. People like Wally Yona Meeting,
Speaker 1: the Japanese American who played not one, but two professional sports,
Speaker 1: and unlike Michael Jordan's, he didn't suck at one of them. Also,
Speaker 1: he never became a crying me. Why you said, you
Speaker 1: know Michael Jordan's first seven you're a mean They became
Speaker 1: a running back for the San Francisco forty Niners, but
Speaker 1: in the wake of World War Two, he faced a
Speaker 1: ton of discrimination even while he was playing. When he
Speaker 1: would get tackled, the opposing team would punch and kick him.
Speaker 1: Do you realize how insane that is? I mean, it's football.
Speaker 1: Everyone's going home with brain damage already. You don't need
Speaker 1: to force it. After a riss injury one, you're not me,
Speaker 1: and they decided to switch to baseball. He moved to
Speaker 1: Japan to play for the Yo ma Yuri Giants, where
Speaker 1: he was an eleven time All Star and became the
Speaker 1: first American player ever to be inducted into the Japanese
Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame. Crazy thing is you're what I mean?
Speaker 1: They faced racism in Japan two, but this time because
Speaker 1: he was American. At games, the fans would chant Yankee
Speaker 1: go how, which is normally something you expected here only
Speaker 1: at Red Sox game or honestly, any place in Boston
Speaker 1: that sells alba. But enough of our baseball, let's talk
Speaker 1: about something people actually watch, The Olympics. In nine, Victoria
Speaker 1: Manalo Dres became the first API Olympic champion, but b Filipino,
Speaker 1: she also faced a lot of discrimination. In fact, when
Speaker 1: she was younger and she used the public pool. The
Speaker 1: town assholes would drain the water after she swam in it,
Speaker 1: which isn't just racist, it's idiotic. They're gonna double your
Speaker 1: water bill just because you're afraid of catching. Being Asian,
Speaker 1: you came and get that from a pool, you have
Speaker 1: to share the same straw dut masses. But against the
Speaker 1: yards Manalo won her gold medal in the women's three
Speaker 1: meter springboard and she was cheered on by diver Sammy Lee,
Speaker 1: the first Asian American man to win an Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 1: That's right, the first two API gold medals at the
Speaker 1: same games. It was like Asian Christmas, which is just Christmas.
Speaker 1: But not Every Asian who broke the color barrier had
Speaker 1: a happy ending. In Larry Kuong became the first non
Speaker 1: white player in the NHL when he on the New
Speaker 1: York Rangers, but they only put him on ice for
Speaker 1: a minute and he never played in another game again,
Speaker 1: which sucks. But breaking the color barrier is like losing
Speaker 1: your virginity. Even if you only did for a second,
Speaker 1: it still counts. Another great first happened in nine seven
Speaker 1: when Walter Archi became the first person of East Asian
Speaker 1: descent to play in the NFL. Because his last name
Speaker 1: was a Chu, he earned the nickname Sneeze. Sadly, this
Speaker 1: was before athletes sponsorships were a thing, so he couldn't
Speaker 1: even get that sweet, sweet, cleanex money. Eventually, he retired
Speaker 1: from the NFL to compete in a safer score wrestling,
Speaker 1: proving that Asians can roll around with our balls and
Speaker 1: so one's face just like everyone else. But let's move
Speaker 1: on to my personal favorite sport basketball. The first non
Speaker 1: white player of any race in NBA history was Japanese
Speaker 1: American what tar room Issaka. He was the first draft
Speaker 1: pick of the New York Knicks, and they even promoted
Speaker 1: his skills to sell tickets. But oker he faced along
Speaker 1: anti Japanese sentiment and only ended up playing three games.
Speaker 1: It was so bad he decided to go back to
Speaker 1: school the gainst engineering degree, which I respect. He was
Speaker 1: basically like, oh, you don't like me being Asian, Well
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be extra Asian now, bitches. But sports isn't
Speaker 1: just about the athletes. There's so many other people who
Speaker 1: have made history without destroying their joints, people like Kim
Speaker 1: who became the general manager of the Miami Marlins, making
Speaker 1: her the first female GM in any major American men's league.
Speaker 1: She walked away up the ladder, facing racism and sexism.
Speaker 1: It's the surf and tourf of discrimination. So now you
Speaker 1: know there's been so many unsung Asian sports heroes in history.
Speaker 1: Don't bother thanking me, my meager teacher's talgory is thanks enough,
Speaker 1: and yes, this is all gonna be on the final
Speaker 1: Happy API month. Idiots probably chatting everybody all right when
Speaker 1: we come back for my advisor to President Trump, Kelly
Speaker 1: and Conway is joining me on the show, so don't
Speaker 1: go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guests
Speaker 1: tonight served as Donald Trump's campaign manager in and would
Speaker 1: become one of President Trump's longest serving aids. She's going
Speaker 1: to talk about that and her new memoir Here's the Deal.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Kelly and Conway, Kenny and Conaway, Welcome to
Speaker 1: The Daily Show. Thank you for having me. You know,
Speaker 1: there are a few guests I have on my show
Speaker 1: that get me more people asking the question why you know?
Speaker 1: That's what people I said. I'm Kelly and Conway is
Speaker 1: gonna be on the show, and people like why I
Speaker 1: have Kelly and Conway on and then you know, some
Speaker 1: of my friends are like, Oh, she's gonna lie to you,
Speaker 1: she's gonna flip things around, she's gonna spin that, she's
Speaker 1: gonna be she's gonna why. That's what people ask me
Speaker 1: the whole time. They really ask that why because they
Speaker 1: think they know me, They think the caricature is real,
Speaker 1: and they don't want to hear from people who disagree
Speaker 1: with them. I don't think that that's completely true. I
Speaker 1: think it's because people. I think it's I think what
Speaker 1: happens is people get frustrated, especially in America, because they
Speaker 1: feel like they're being toyed with, you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: not putting this all on you, by the way, I
Speaker 1: actually found the book interesting because there were parts of
Speaker 1: the book that I feel like illuminated stories that you
Speaker 1: you never told, or parts of being in the Trump
Speaker 1: presidency that nobody knew about. And and I guess maybe
Speaker 1: that that's like the first question I had about your
Speaker 1: job and what you were doing with President Trump, and
Speaker 1: that is when you're working in the White House and
Speaker 1: you had the position that you had, when you're working
Speaker 1: for an administration, do you feel like there are times
Speaker 1: when you have to lie to protect the president, or
Speaker 1: do you feel like you have to do that because
Speaker 1: you're furthering a greater good? Not none of the above.
Speaker 1: First of all, the President offered me the press secretary
Speaker 1: job within an hour or or and a half of
Speaker 1: being elected in I said no, because he said you'll
Speaker 1: be great at Then I'm thinking to myself, I've wrote
Speaker 1: in the book, I'd be a terrible press secretary. I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure what they do. And so I didn't
Speaker 1: want to press or Comm's job. I took a policy job,
Speaker 1: but I kept getting pulled out um to speak on
Speaker 1: behalf of the White House, on behalf of the country.
Speaker 1: And I have to tell you. People will say, how
Speaker 1: can you go up against this anchor? They asked me
Speaker 1: the same question, why would you go on this show?
Speaker 1: Why do you deal with that anchor? They're not fair
Speaker 1: to you, They only prefer Democrats, et cetera. And I say, look,
Speaker 1: the anchors are never really my audience. That people are
Speaker 1: the audience. There are folks out there. They're forgotten man,
Speaker 1: forgotten woman, forgotten child who would not otherwise have access
Speaker 1: to information news. They can use facts and figures that
Speaker 1: affect their everyday lives. But there were many times I
Speaker 1: didn't speak. There were many things I didn't address. I
Speaker 1: either felt that I was not the expert on them
Speaker 1: or I didn't have all the answers. But I would
Speaker 1: note that, you know, all the smart men around me
Speaker 1: did not go on TV, did not come and face
Speaker 1: the music, did not come and explain UM. I was
Speaker 1: almost like their mo mop up girl on spokesmodels. Sometimes
Speaker 1: that's what they wanted so that they can be behind
Speaker 1: the scenes working on important policy. And I have to
Speaker 1: tell you, even this White House when it started, the
Speaker 1: Biden Harris White House, they said, look at us, we
Speaker 1: have a female press and comp shop. And I thought, well,
Speaker 1: of course you do, because the women don't get as
Speaker 1: many policy jobs. And that's what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: So I worked on veterans, military military spouses. I worked
Speaker 1: on the tax Cutton Jobs Act. I worked on the
Speaker 1: opioid crisis. I worked on education, health care reform. The
Speaker 1: list goes on and on. And you find out in
Speaker 1: these public service jobs, Trevor, that you can help make
Speaker 1: a difference in people's lives. And I think that many
Speaker 1: of the Trump hands accomplishments have done exactly, that we
Speaker 1: were better off economically energy wise. Putin was not in
Speaker 1: Ukraine and Rand was not salinating in Israel. How much
Speaker 1: did you pay for guests? And don't forgive me. Forgive
Speaker 1: me because you're doing the thing that you're very good
Speaker 1: at right now, and that is seeking the truth. No,
Speaker 1: and that is not answering the question that I've asked you.
Speaker 1: I did answer no, no, no, I said no, no.
Speaker 1: What I'm what I'm saying is this is and I
Speaker 1: really I don't want to have a confrontational conversation with you,
Speaker 1: because when I was reading the book, it felt like
Speaker 1: more of a conversation with you as a person. So okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me ask it this way. So here
Speaker 1: you have a situation where in the book you talk
Speaker 1: about how you will oftentimes a voice of reason in
Speaker 1: the room. You know, I have no reason to not
Speaker 1: believe that you talk about in the book how you
Speaker 1: said to Donald Trump, hey, you lost the election. You
Speaker 1: have lost this election. But what I actually said was
Speaker 1: we were talking about the December fourteenth deadline. That was
Speaker 1: the date by which the electors would certify the election,
Speaker 1: and they were about to certify it. For Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris. And in the six weeks prior to that,
Speaker 1: I had long left the White House. And in the
Speaker 1: six weeks prior to that, the President and his legal
Speaker 1: team we're trying to find proof of theft and fraud
Speaker 1: and malfeasance and shenanigans. And I think there are many
Speaker 1: unanswered questions from will never know. But the main thing
Speaker 1: you said to him, and I said, and you're coming
Speaker 1: up sure, it looks like you're coming up short for
Speaker 1: that certification date other people. Trevor then had the idea, wa,
Speaker 1: we don't go to other people. Wait, wait, honestly, not
Speaker 1: to go to January six, don't do a different sort
Speaker 1: of happening so much January sick though, I'm saying in
Speaker 1: this case, this is what I'm saying is interesting is
Speaker 1: you said this in the book right after a NOW issue.
Speaker 1: You said this in the book. Since the book came out,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has come out and I think it was
Speaker 1: true social and he said no, Kelly and Conway is lying.
Speaker 1: She never said that to me. She never told me
Speaker 1: that I lost. And if she told me that, I
Speaker 1: would have fired on the spot. So let's say like
Speaker 1: in that instance, it's you it's Donald Trump, So who's
Speaker 1: telling the truth. He didn't use the words liar or fire,
Speaker 1: but but he said was I wouldn't dealt with her anymore.
Speaker 1: That's not a good criterion. I wouldn't have to deal
Speaker 1: with anymore. But I told him. I told him that
Speaker 1: he came up short, and it broke my heart. I
Speaker 1: wish he were still the president because you're saying, so,
Speaker 1: you're saying you did tell him, and so he's when
Speaker 1: he's saying he's coming up short for December four other people.
Speaker 1: I'm very candid and very honest. And by the way,
Speaker 1: this is not one of these tell all and breemost.
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking up now because I didn't speak up then,
Speaker 1: God knows I spoke. You didn't know there's five pes
Speaker 1: in there. My life story, certainly time is campaign manager
Speaker 1: making history. Is the first female complete that we're going
Speaker 1: to get your counsel to the president and what that meant.
Speaker 1: Allow me to move through it step by step. I
Speaker 1: promise you, I'm gonna get to those parts. What I'm
Speaker 1: asking you. So I think you've answered in this case,
Speaker 1: So you're saying that is the truth is that you
Speaker 1: told him and you said broke Bidens the president. I
Speaker 1: don't think everything was completely fair, and rance you're doing
Speaker 1: the You see, the people are right now with me.
Speaker 1: The people who said to me, she's going to do
Speaker 1: the thing to you're doing the thing to me right
Speaker 1: now that Joe Biden is. I didn't ask you that
Speaker 1: question though, Okay, the question I asked you was who's
Speaker 1: telling the truth? That's honestly what I asked you. I
Speaker 1: didn't ask you about who's president who's not president. I
Speaker 1: said who's telling the truth? As and you told one
Speaker 1: side of the story. Donald Trump told another side of
Speaker 1: the story. And what you're telling me is you're saying
Speaker 1: his side of the story is not true. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that I told him before the December fourteen's deadline,
Speaker 1: which disagree. So so maybe maybe this is what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say in this In this book, what I
Speaker 1: found particularly interesting is you you've given us an inside
Speaker 1: into the Trump White House and and how it worked well,
Speaker 1: how sometimes it didn't work. You know, you've had some
Speaker 1: of the most scathing opinions on people like Jared kushn
Speaker 1: Of for instance. You you don't you don't mince your
Speaker 1: words in the book about Jared you know, or Steve Bannon,
Speaker 1: and it you know, it feels like you you felt
Speaker 1: like at times, they you know, got away with not
Speaker 1: being as good at the job as you felt they
Speaker 1: should have been. Well, I think that the president, your
Speaker 1: boss in the workplace, asked you to work together as
Speaker 1: a team. You should try to do that. And this
Speaker 1: just happened to be the West Wings. That was very
Speaker 1: important that people be collaborative and not confrontational. I felt
Speaker 1: that that. I felt there was a lot of undercutting,
Speaker 1: if not usurping of other people's duties and responsibilities. And
Speaker 1: there was a lot of gratuitously nasty stuff going on also,
Speaker 1: And it happened at the very beginning. And here's someone
Speaker 1: who you know, along with George, my husband made a
Speaker 1: decision to move to Washington, d C. Move our children there.
Speaker 1: He too, took a big job in the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: We have that in common. And we're doing all this
Speaker 1: and I have people constantly knife in me, constantly throwing
Speaker 1: law was in my path. Now, I had two choices,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of women in the workplace
Speaker 1: will relate to this chapel right, two choices. I can
Speaker 1: sort of slink away or cry under the desk and
Speaker 1: hope the emotional shrapnell doesn't hit me. Or I can
Speaker 1: hold my head high and forge ahead and try to
Speaker 1: be one small molecule that's working for positive change. Um.
Speaker 1: In the end, I mean a lot of those guys
Speaker 1: got fired, slinked away in shame, didn't last strong, UM,
Speaker 1: And I think in many in many cases, my balls
Speaker 1: were bigger and in fact actually actually so that question.
Speaker 1: So that to that point, let's talk about the guns game.
Speaker 1: So this is this is a moment you were an
Speaker 1: adviser to the presidents. This is what I find interesting.
Speaker 1: One of my strangest moments, even during the show, was
Speaker 1: when Donald Trump. President Donald Trump came out and he
Speaker 1: said there was there was a mass shooting, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know what we need to do. We need to
Speaker 1: raise the age limits. He said, we need to ban
Speaker 1: assault rifles. He needs he said, you Republicans who don't
Speaker 1: want to do it, you're scared of the n r A.
Speaker 1: He came out, he had all of these measures, which
Speaker 1: I said, even on the show, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is amazing, this is fantastic. Many were shocked. But then
Speaker 1: we've learned recently that there were there were some of
Speaker 1: his insiders who convinced him. I think like Mick Mulvaney
Speaker 1: was one of them who said, don't do it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna lose if you don't. Trump said, I don't care,
Speaker 1: we need to do this, and he got convinced out
Speaker 1: of it. Now, I would love to know from your perspective,
Speaker 1: how did his team convince him out of something when
Speaker 1: I mean, this was the man who everyone said, don't
Speaker 1: you can't build a wall. He said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go and build this wall. You know you can't ben
Speaker 1: Muslims like, I'm gonna find a way to do it.
Speaker 1: How did they convince him? What do we not know
Speaker 1: about the gun lobby in the gun world that they
Speaker 1: managed to push Donald Trump away from his initial position. Respectfully,
Speaker 1: the premise is flawed because I was in those conversations
Speaker 1: and he did talk about different measures, but they didn't
Speaker 1: come to the they didn't come to the Senate, they
Speaker 1: didn't come they didn't reach his desk. A president has
Speaker 1: to sign into law things that the United States Congress
Speaker 1: has the guts to put there, and they did not know.
Speaker 1: I want I also want to say this though I
Speaker 1: was there um for Parkland I was there after the
Speaker 1: Parkland Valentine's I'm not blaming Trump, by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: just as shifted from his Then I flew with him
Speaker 1: to Santa Fe, Texas when when there was a shooting
Speaker 1: their eight children were killed, eight high schoolers and two
Speaker 1: teachers there. And what I learned the entire time is
Speaker 1: that people are very quick to say it's this problem,
Speaker 1: it's that problem is actually a spectrum. You know, it's
Speaker 1: never one thing that positive and it's never one thing
Speaker 1: that can solve it, right, But then nothing gets done.
Speaker 1: So nothing has gotten done. And again, if you've got
Speaker 1: a president's been there for fifty years, I hope he
Speaker 1: will because he can say I hope he can do.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you're probably doing in I don't
Speaker 1: blame there he does. I'm saying to you as an
Speaker 1: advisor like and I mean this honestly, as as a
Speaker 1: Kelly and Coma like you're not even a fan of
Speaker 1: the semid Coling, not just listening. What I'm saying to
Speaker 1: you is in the position that you're in and the
Speaker 1: position that you may find yourself in again, because you
Speaker 1: you do have the air of many powerful Republicans, You
Speaker 1: do have you know you're in You're in the rare
Speaker 1: position of speaking to Donald Trump and Mike Pence right now.
Speaker 1: You're one of the few people who is the connective
Speaker 1: tissue of many parts of the Republican Party, both the
Speaker 1: old and the new. And so maybe I would even
Speaker 1: ask you then, as an advisor, now, what are some
Speaker 1: of the common sense ideas that you think could be possible,
Speaker 1: because I think these are moments that the public democrat.
Speaker 1: These are just children. You just you just said the
Speaker 1: most important word here. I know people talk about guns
Speaker 1: and mental health and hardening the targets. I'm thinking through
Speaker 1: the vantage of the vantage point of the children, and
Speaker 1: we should just start there and all these matters. And
Speaker 1: I learned that and listening to the Parkland families, I
Speaker 1: learned that after the Dayton shooter had his juvenile records
Speaker 1: were kept private and now that it's his privacy versus
Speaker 1: the security of other people. I learned that when we
Speaker 1: looked at Parkland and you saw the FBI had visited
Speaker 1: many times and nobody ever did anything. These people, these
Speaker 1: mad men, the moral depravity, these evil people. They usually
Speaker 1: broadcasts or intention they're bragging me about. I want to
Speaker 1: be a school shooter look at me, and so we
Speaker 1: should take that seriously. I mean here they say, if
Speaker 1: you see something, say something. They made a backpack in
Speaker 1: the subway. I think the people who are around these
Speaker 1: folks and are afraid of them and believe that they
Speaker 1: could do should feel free to go to the authority
Speaker 1: under cover of privacy, go to the authorities and report that.
Speaker 1: Here's what I think should happen with the children. You know, Trevor,
Speaker 1: if we just acted with the same gusto to protect
Speaker 1: our children from violence in the schools that we did
Speaker 1: to protect them from the virus, which we should have done.
Speaker 1: We now have one twelve billion dollars in last year's
Speaker 1: American rescue plan and put in post pandemic money for
Speaker 1: for the schools of it, according to the Law Street
Speaker 1: Journal last week, is unspent. Why well, because they already
Speaker 1: did the ventilation. They already did the sticker, as we
Speaker 1: already did the masks. Now we're moving on to its
Speaker 1: airmark for mental health. It's air marked for more teachers
Speaker 1: and counselors. It's air mark for lost learning, and we
Speaker 1: should be spending that money. It's seven billion just here
Speaker 1: in New York City. The largest school district in the country,
Speaker 1: and it's not spent yet because it expires in September.
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out how to do it. Let's
Speaker 1: take that money, it's already been passed and approved by
Speaker 1: the president. Let's take that money and shift it over
Speaker 1: to keeping our kids safe in these schools. My goodness,
Speaker 1: we have we keep athletes safe, politicians SA No, of
Speaker 1: course not. Nineteen states have red flag walls. These states
Speaker 1: have taken action where Washington has not. In fact, the
Speaker 1: state of Florida, with the Republican State Legislative republic Governor
Speaker 1: Rick Scott m past red flag laws after Parkland, Florida.
Speaker 1: So it is possible. As people are saying do something,
Speaker 1: say something, to do something, and I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen in Congress. I'd like to feel more
Speaker 1: hopeful that people will come to their senses and think
Speaker 1: about how to keep these kids safe, because it should
Speaker 1: not be an occupational hazard for any child um to
Speaker 1: go to school and the fear for their lives obviously
Speaker 1: their safety, but there's so many signs along the way
Speaker 1: and people should feel free instead of judging everybody's social
Speaker 1: media post and and calling everybody names and canceling people.
Speaker 1: Why don't we say that person's slinging an a R
Speaker 1: fifteen online saying he aspires to be a school shooter.
Speaker 1: Half the class is afraid of him. Why don't we
Speaker 1: do something about that? So I think it's all that.
Speaker 1: And I was disappointed to hear Senator Chris Murphy of
Speaker 1: Connecticut UM say last week, don't give me the bull
Speaker 1: ship about mental health. We don't have any more mental
Speaker 1: health problems in other countries. Excuse me. It is a
Speaker 1: big problem here, maybe in other countries too, but we
Speaker 1: have to look at that. We have to start investing
Speaker 1: in that. UM. So, yes, I believe in the case
Speaker 1: of Buffalo, there was a red flag should have been triggered,
Speaker 1: and the authorities did not do anything about it. The
Speaker 1: Buffalo shooter, UM here, and you'v all the this, this
Speaker 1: murderer who just recently turned eighteen. I believe there were
Speaker 1: warning signs and people were afraid of him, and they said,
Speaker 1: he would you torture cats and brag abound We're going
Speaker 1: to rape you. I'm going to be a school shooter.
Speaker 1: I think you have to take people like that seriously
Speaker 1: and not just look the other way, So there is
Speaker 1: a whole spectrum of solutions that I I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying correctly in that situation, which I would agree with.
Speaker 1: Is what you're saying is if you look at these
Speaker 1: red flags, if you look at these moments ahead of time,
Speaker 1: you can find reasons to restrict people from gaining access
Speaker 1: to guns. Because you're saying, we see that this is
Speaker 1: not conducive to society. Not everybody should have it because
Speaker 1: if you're operating and she's just like happening anything with
Speaker 1: any other machine, any other agree on many things. Believe
Speaker 1: I listened to you and and look this country. I
Speaker 1: write in my book at the end the the the
Speaker 1: publisher Simon and Schuster, the head They're asked me, can
Speaker 1: you dig a little bit deeper and try to unify
Speaker 1: the country? Like sure, that sounds easy, And I did try.
Speaker 1: And one thing I said, I think is incredibly important
Speaker 1: for us all to realize is that sure, we can
Speaker 1: talk about bipartisanship, we can talk about finding common ground.
Speaker 1: I always think that's valuable, but we also need to
Speaker 1: realize that not everybody in this country wants to wear
Speaker 1: the red or blue uniform seven three sixty five we
Speaker 1: don't want politics and every conversation, collaboration, consideration, every meal,
Speaker 1: every conversation at a place of worship or your place
Speaker 1: of work, and the kids playground you have. We have
Speaker 1: much more uncommon in this beautiful country field with amazing people,
Speaker 1: and people realize, but these cultural cleavages are very real,
Speaker 1: and we have to we have to confront that. We
Speaker 1: have to I think I think deal with that. Look,
Speaker 1: if Donald Trump wants to be president again, it's the
Speaker 1: simplest path is not to look backwards to run against
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. He can have a cage match rematch, and
Speaker 1: I think people will pay attention that that's what he
Speaker 1: wants to do. That's the that's the smoothest, easiest path.
Speaker 1: That's the smoothest easiest path if he really wants to
Speaker 1: do that. But um, but we have to also respect
Speaker 1: that the growing number of people in this country, they
Speaker 1: are upset with what's going on in Washington. They feel
Speaker 1: excluded from the process. If from the stem, can I
Speaker 1: tell you what I think happens in America That's particularly
Speaker 1: interesting is America is one of the few countries I've
Speaker 1: lived in where politicians complain about politics being a tool
Speaker 1: that should be used to change the country when they
Speaker 1: are in the position of changing the country using that politics. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's that's a great having me on the shock. I
Speaker 1: could chat to you for hours. Unfortunately, have a time
Speaker 1: that we have. Thank you so much, journing me. Not
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Speaker 1: right back after this, Okay, very much to be there
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