1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Shot Time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you hear that Black Shot Town? 2 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, were throwing it back for a good one 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: right here. You know what I'm talking about. We got 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: the queen in the building, none other than a champion 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Candas Parker Year that dude that Shot Town in the building. 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: And right now she's a two time champion now, but 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: in this episode, she was a one time champion. She 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: was telling us how getting too will make her in 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: the rankings of top players. 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Did she get the second one? Yeah, she definitely the second. 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: Where did she get the second one? That though in 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: shot Shot Town? Yeah? This was from season three man 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: early days, and you know, we had to tap in 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: with the shot Town queen. Hey, but look, there's been 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: a lot going on for Candae since we last spoke 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: to it, you know. And it came back to the 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: crib and warn us a chip the one and only 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: we got for the Chicago So hey, look, we appreciate you. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now, she a regular on TNT. 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: Should have changed the game now and she sit opposite check. 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: She be checking Shack all the time. Give them the 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: looks of death and all that chilling them out. You 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, hey, look, we see you out there. 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Now she done left my beloved Chicago's guy and now 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: she is out there in Vegas, the lost Vegas Aces 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: and Asia Wilson and that whole cool point. God, like, 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: what are they about to do? Black? What are you 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: thinking of her success on and off the court, and 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: just talk about all of that and what you think 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: about to happen behind them aces? 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Man, love what she's doing, the move she's making. Man, 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: she's women power, She's doing her thing, and she's being 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: the leader. 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: Man. 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: But this episode was a couple of years ago, and 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: just seeing the heights that she got to now check 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: out when she was telling us about our childhood, how 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: she came up and how she became the all truth 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: Canvas Parker. 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Hey, man, you want to know what's crazy. I just 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: had sink to her. I seen Canvas in Utah. It 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: all start weekend and she ran up on me and 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: she checked me real quick. I felt kind of like 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: how she be doing shack. I was like, I was 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: caught off guard and I was like damn, and you 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: know I was. She was like, hey, why I ain't 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: been back on the show. I said, Oh lord, I 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: say I didn't know you wanted to be, but I 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: was stuttering and from of those my words, she caught 50 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: me off guard. I was feeling like Shaq for real, 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: but like just you know, we're gonna do this little 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: run back here just to let people know that you 53 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: have already been on there, but we definitely gonna get 54 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: you back live on location and we're gonna cover all 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: this that we talk about then it happened since we 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: last talked to you, and we're gonna get back to it. 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: This episode was aired Bar seventeen, twenty twenty. Check it 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: out Man, one of our classics from the Queen. First question, 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: we asked everybody who come on when you made it 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: to the w n B A, who was the first 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: person to bust your ass? 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: Oh? First person to bust my ass? I mean I 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: got my ass busted every day in practice because I 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: was playing with Delisia Milton and Lisa Leslie, Tina Thompson 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 3: came over. I mean it was kind of every single day. 66 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: They would put me on the white team and they 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: would be on the black team, and they would take 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: turns not calling fouls and just so really it was 69 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: pretty much every every single day in practice. 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: Them legends too. Yeah, he had it and on the daily. 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: That's that's rough them legends too, Lisa Leslie. 72 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: But that got you ready early, right, like that got 73 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: that's that's iron shopping iron. 74 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I had a successful first month of the 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: WBA season, and I think I was feeling myself a 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: little bit. Michael Cooper, who was our coach at the time. 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: I remember the practice where we walked in and know 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: how you warm up when you're rookie, after you had like. 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: The swaging and filling yourself a little lean out, like. 80 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: You know, jogging the spots, and then we scrimmaged and 81 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: he called my name with the white team, and I 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: remember being like all right, like let's go. And then 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: I realized that I was not meant to win because 84 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: I went to the basket and got taken out. 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: Live on location La California. I got the blackest one 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: with me and we got one of the goats. We 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: got one of the people going on the Mount Rushmore 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: for the women's basketball and she from Chicago. You know, 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: so we got miss Candice Parker in the building. We 90 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you showing up and showing us love. 91 00:04:45,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're from Saint Louis, where you're born. 92 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: I was born in Saint Louis, born in Saint Louis. 93 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: She's from Chicago. 94 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, from Chicago. She was born in Saint Louis. 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: Tell us that try to throw that in there like that. 96 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: I just wanted to put like I messed with Saint Louis. 97 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: Saint Louis is nice. It's uh. We still had family 98 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: and friends. We go back there every sing. 99 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: It's just no disrespect to the Louis. I'm just saying 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: the facts are the facts. 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: I mean, the Saint Lunatics came out and I kind 102 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: of claimed Saint Louis a little bit during that time. 103 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: Lellie was hot and sat Lunatics. But no, I was 104 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: born in Saint Louis and moved when I was three 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: and really enjoyed. I mean I was eleven years younger 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: than my brother and my brothers were my heroes growing up, 107 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: so everything they did I wanted to do. Like we 108 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: went to the tennis courts, were playing it it's hot, they 109 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: took their shirts off. I was over there trying to 110 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: take my barets on. So everything they did, you know, 111 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: I just followed suit. I was a huge soccer player 112 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: growing up, and uh, and so then they kind of 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: started playing basketball. So I would be in the driveway 114 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: was trying to play basketball. And that was during the Bulls. 115 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: I mean, we moved right when the Bulls started winning championships, 116 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: and so I remember, like I remember all that, like 117 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: the repeat, the three peat. 118 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: I remember like people riding outside on top of their 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: cars and shooting their guns in the air, doing everything. 120 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: I remember the fire rolls to prevent riots, like when 121 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: Dennis Rum and Michael Jordans Scottie Pippen got on and 122 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: we're talking about you know, you want to keep Chicago safe, 123 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: right listen. 124 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: That's why I tell people all the time, like I 125 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: got the chance to sit up there with me and him. 126 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: We were sitting up there with Scotty on the jump Thursday. 127 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: I say, man, y'all, don't understand this hit different every 128 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: single time. It don't matter what's going on. If I 129 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: coul get around Mike or Scotti is like hold on, 130 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like this, like this, 131 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: they stand out to people like us more so than 132 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: anybody we might meet. 133 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: It's insane, and honestly, I was the biggest Ron Harper fan, 134 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: and Ron Harper used to give Mike a couple fits 135 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: before he got to the Bulls. I remember, yep, you 136 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: can't go to work when he came, when he came 137 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: to Chicago. There's a time when my brother was playing 138 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: and it was like Michael Jordan in the hallway and 139 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: Ron Harper and I went up to Ron Harper and 140 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: got Ron Harper's autograph and took a picture with him, 141 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: and that was on my wall from the time I 142 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: was probably like nine or ten until I mean until 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: we moved out of the house. Ron Harper was like everything. 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: He was key to that team, and he was a 145 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: key part to that team. Like I loved that starting 146 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: line up with him, like it was crazy. 147 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: It was like lock up, lockdown, every period, everything is problems. 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: It was nuts, no point guard, just Ryan about the 149 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Scottie running it and the days just seeing Scotty. 150 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: So for you growing up, like everybody know like mj 151 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: was everybody's favorite player, Like for you, who was the 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: who's the female goat for you that you looked up to? 153 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Was your goat? 154 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: So at eleven years old, the WNBA started for me. 155 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: So the summer before I went out and was like 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm about to be like Chris Webber and you know, 157 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan, and I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot jump shots 158 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: like that. I'm gonna be that you know, post player 159 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: that's able to handle the ball whatever. And then that 160 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: next summer it was like, oh, I can I can 161 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: dream to be like female athletes Like I can. I 162 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: don't have to dream to play in the NBA. I 163 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: can play in the WNBA and Cynthia Cooper at that time, 164 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: Houston Houston Comments were winning championship after championship after like. 165 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Me, and it was nowhere. 166 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: It came out of nowhere exactly. And I remember in 167 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: the in my rec game because I wasn't playing traveling 168 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: basketball yet. My parents were very one sport, stick to 169 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: that and then we can switch during seasons, like we're 170 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: not going to burn you out playing basketball. So I 171 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: didn't really start playing serious basketball till I was like twelve, 172 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: and at that time, I was playing in the rec 173 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: league and I remember I hit a shot and like 174 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: raised the roof that yeah, And so it was just 175 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 3: I wanted to be you know, like like Cynthia Cooper. 176 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Who installed the game, like because you played soccer and 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: like you got great footwork, like who installed the game 178 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: and you just switched it to be like basketball sport. 179 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: My dad was like, we laugh, it's probably not funny 180 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: and where we called him like the Joe Jackson of 181 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: probably nothing funny anymore. But yeah, that was my dad. 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: Before I was playing like seriously serious basketball. We would 183 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: go to the park and his whole thing was like, 184 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 3: I don't coach effort, and that was what coach Summit 185 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: always said. And he's like, I don't coach effort. So 186 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: we go to the gym or to the park, and 187 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: if we weren't practicing hard or something like that, like 188 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: he would just not say nothing. He would just go 189 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: get his keys and walk to the car and drive 190 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: off and be like right when he was driving off, 191 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, you got to be home in twenty minutes. 192 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: So he'd be running home like back from the park. 193 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: And I remember watching this as a kid and being like, man, 194 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: I can't wait till he does that to me, like 195 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: to my brothers, like they'd be in the strength shoes 196 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: running beside the car all and I remember like, I 197 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: want him to yell at me. I want to come 198 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: back from the game and him to tell me off 199 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: or something like that. And yeah, so I guess it 200 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: was just my dad and my brothers. Like I wanted 201 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: to do everything they did. 202 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: So it was just like you wanted to be a 203 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: part of it. 204 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: I just wanted to be a part of it. And 205 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: that's kind of how like our saturdays. I would beg 206 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: him after I would you know, we had our chores. 207 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: I police the yard, make sure all the leaves are up. 208 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: You hear that, children and all that. If you listen, 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: you heard that she said before chores. 210 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: And then after I finished the chores, I'd be like, Dad, 211 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: can we please go to Edward's Health and Fitnesses where 212 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: we always went. And I'd be like, can we please 213 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: go to Edwards? And You'd be like all right, And 214 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 3: there's so many memories. On a Saturday, I'd be over 215 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: there trying to dunk a tennis ball, like I remember 216 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: the first time I did that, Like it's just those 217 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: are the memories I see with my dad. 218 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Tell me about the first time you dunked a real ball. 219 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: So I it was like progression. Cause so my brothers, 220 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: this goes back to the competition with my brothers. My 221 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: brothers were five five and five seven, entering high school 222 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: and I was six two, and so if we grew 223 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: up at the same time, like their little sister would 224 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: have dwarfed them. Yeah, Like I would have been like 225 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: mouse in the house, like like let's go type of thing, 226 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: you know, bro seven And I was fine, yep, So 227 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: it was like that. But that's what it was. I mean, 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: it was just trying to be my brothers because they 229 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: dunked at fifteen sixteen and I was fourteen, and I 230 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: was like, I'm a dunk. So all summer I did 231 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 3: shrink shoes. I'd race, yeah on the toe. 232 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: That was back in the air where legit you would 233 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: be in school. You see dudes walking around backpack with 234 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: the joints something like, oh yeah, you got money, your 235 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: parents got you the love, you got the joints on 236 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: TV like you got the baby. 237 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: We're passed down. So like mine were size like I 238 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: wore sized twelve shoes and mine were a size fourteen 239 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: because they bought my brother okay right, and we got 240 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: them passed down. So I just tied him real tight 241 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: and walked around with him. 242 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: That's a classic, man. 243 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: I was doing toe raises on the stairs, push ups 244 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: before bed at. 245 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Classic all that on the stairs, tow raising. That's classic. 246 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: Kids now got trainers, got all this stuff. Like we 247 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: was legit doing exactly what she said. You'd be at 248 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: the crib sitting there just doing tow rais somebody walked 249 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: past like you like whatever. 250 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: Like like running trying to touch them on the top 251 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: of the wall. What else. Like one summer, my dad 252 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: was like, you need to get better at your left hand, 253 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, so I eat with my 254 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: left hand all summer. All summer, I just with my 255 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: left hand to get better at it. 256 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's remember. That's what Kobe said. He was like, 257 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: he have her do everything trying right left handed, picked 258 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: things up left hand to just use, like you can't 259 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: use your right hand, just do all of this left handed. 260 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: That's crazy, That's what it was. And then man, one summer, 261 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: you know, I was six y two at the time, 262 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: in eighth grade, and in gym class I jumped up. 263 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: I remember when I dunked the tennis ball and everybody 264 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: was kind of like dang, okay. And then that summer 265 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: I dunked the volleyball and I couldn't get a basketball. 266 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: And then one saturday with my dad took the ball, 267 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: cradled it and just went up by. And I remember 268 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: just being so hyped, like I was calling my mom. 269 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: I called my brothers who My brothers were away at 270 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: school and he, you know, Anthony was older, so he 271 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: was playing basketball overseas and it was insane. 272 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: He went crazy. I went crazy, old family crazy. That's 273 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: super crazy. Then you start you making history. You're dunking 274 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: and Illinois first woman to dunk in Illinois, first woman 275 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: to dunk in a tournament. How is that? 276 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: I just always wanted to stress that it was a 277 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: part of my game and if it brought people to 278 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 3: see the game, then they could see all the other 279 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: things that I can do. You know. I didn't want 280 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: to just dunk. And that's when my dad always tell me, like, 281 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 3: so you want to just be known as a dunker, 282 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: that's all you want to be known. And I'd be like, no, 283 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: you don't. 284 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: I get the break I'm dunking that, and yeah, So that's. 285 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: How it was. I just wanted it to I dunked 286 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: in Dunny Crown in a Christmas tournament my sophomore year, sophomore, 287 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: junior year, and I woke up the next day and 288 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: they were like news cameras on the you know, on 289 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: our line, and you know, like all this stuff, and 290 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: I was just like, it's that big a deal, you know. 291 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: I didn't really think of it because my parents didn't. 292 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: I mean, my brothers were always like, you know, you saw, 293 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: you know, and that's kind of what motivated I mean, 294 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: we're extremely at the dinner table. That's how we are, like, oh, 295 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: you had thirty today, Like right, pass the salt. You know, 296 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: That's just how we are. And so I didn't think 297 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: of it as a big deal. Like to me, it 298 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: was like what I was supposed to do. My brothers 299 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: did it, my brother's dunk, so why does it matter 300 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: if I did. My parents were always Yeah, my parents 301 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: were always like girls can do what boys do. So 302 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: there was never like a time where they were like, 303 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: you're a girl, you can't do that. And so it 304 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: was never a big deal. 305 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: To me, talk about winning the dunk contest at the 306 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: McDonald's game over Josh Smith's Jr. Smith, who I too 307 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: like Josh Smith won the dunk contest in the NBA 308 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and Jr. Smith is won at all time crazy dunk. 309 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: Oh go to my grave with this. All I did 310 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: was make my dunks, and they missed their dunks. And 311 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: so when everybody's like dang, like, I'm like, you can't 312 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: win a dunk contest if you miss your dunks. That's 313 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: what happened. I just made mine. They missed theirs. And 314 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: I remember the next day it was April Fool's Day, 315 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: like one or two days after that, and my brother 316 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: was overseas and we called on the phone from the 317 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: hotel like, hey, Aunt, I won the McDonald's All American 318 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: Dunk Contests and I want it and it's April Fool 319 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: was like, nah, forget that. Da da da, And so 320 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: he had to wait. He got the USA today and 321 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: saw it in the paper before he believed us that 322 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: we want. 323 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: I remember watching that and being like this is crazy, 324 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: like the fact, and I was like and I remember 325 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: being like talking crab like she from Chicago though, so 326 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: you already know it's nothing new here, you know what 327 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, talk, But I was like being I remember 328 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: that was one of the I was really impressed with that, 329 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: like and like you said, it was they were trying 330 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: crazy stuff, but like you said, you made you made 331 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: your dunks, and that's what you gotta do. And I 332 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: just remember being like, yo, she really wanted done. All 333 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: the girls running around. I was like, that was sick. 334 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: That was like something in my head. 335 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: I was coming off of a c O. I just 336 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: tore my a cl like six or seven months before that. Yeah, 337 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: and I will tell you before I hurt my knee 338 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: and I've had seven knee surgery since then. So I 339 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: could straight up do crazy dunks. And so for me, 340 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: it was like, I'm gonna enter it just because it's 341 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: a good cause and not cause, but like a good 342 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: way to bring attention to women's basketball. But I really 343 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: wish that I could have before I cl and doing 344 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: stuff like that. 345 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: But you know, you got the trophy. 346 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: Though my mom got the trophy. I don't have it. 347 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: I'm a Parker, don't play. 348 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: He was back to back player of the year in 349 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: high school. A lot of people want to do that. 350 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: A lot of people haven't done that. That's rare. You 351 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: wanted your junior year, your next year. You came out, 352 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: and then you chose Tennessee. What made you choose Tennessee 353 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: out of everybody you could have chose. 354 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: So my oldest brother, he played professional basketball for a 355 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: number of years in the NBA, as well as overseas. 356 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: My middle brother is a doctor, and when he was 357 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: picking in school, he picked a school based on him 358 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: wanting to be a doctor. He went to you know, 359 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: wash You then he went on to Johns Hopkins and 360 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: he picked the best school to be a doctor. And 361 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: for me, I wanted to be a basketball player. Like 362 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: I think people come out and are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, 363 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: you can't aspire to be a basketball player, Like no, 364 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: that's what I wanted to do. And I mean it 365 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: didn't mean that that's the only thing that I could 366 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: do in college, and so I wanted to do communications. 367 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to be a basketball player, and Tennessee had 368 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: amazing were amazing at both. I mean women's basketball. When 369 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: you can walk into an arena and say you've played 370 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: in front of twenty six thousand people at a Connecticut game, 371 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: or you had the highest attendance rate of almost seventeen 372 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: thousand your senior year in college, Knoxville's Eats Breeze Sleeps 373 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: women's basketball, we were second in Midnight Madness. We played second. 374 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: The guys played first and we played second. 375 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: So it's like you. 376 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: Like, it was like that was what the guys respected it, 377 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: you know, and that's that's what it is. I think 378 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: that's yeah. Bruce Pearl came in and was like, listen, combine. 379 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: Me and Coach Summit have won eight championships, he's won zero, 380 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: so we understood, you know what it's about. And I 381 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: think it's that respect factor that Coach Summit demanded. And 382 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: I knew that she would grow me as a basketball 383 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: player but also as a human being. And she always 384 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: spoke about you got to be versatile. I can hear it, Parker. 385 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 3: You're versatile on the court, you gotta be versatile off 386 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: the court. And that's the reason why I chose Tennessee. 387 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: Would you say the three weeks had any influence on that? 388 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: With the noise they was causing up there and the 389 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: way they was, the way they was playing, and they 390 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: was legendary of the winning. 391 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: Championship Smika, Yeah, I mean to be honest with you, Okay. 392 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: I was attracted to Tennessee because I wanted to go 393 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: somewhere and bring a championship. But I didn't want it 394 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: to be like I didn't want to just add to 395 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: like the greatness, if that makes sense. Like I wanted 396 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: to kind of be my own woman. So when they 397 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: went on a little drought, that's really what attracted me 398 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: to Tennessee, Okay, because I think sometimes fans get spoiled 399 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: when it's just championship after championship and then like you 400 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: make it to the final four and they're like what happened? 401 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 3: Or you make it to the like Golden State, fans 402 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: just got spoiled, like dude, y'all, y'all went to the finals, 403 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 3: Like y'all lost, but you guys, would you know how 404 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: many franchises would dream of that? So for me, I 405 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: grew up watching Shumik with Tamika and Semika and the 406 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: Meeks win championship after championship and then they didn't win 407 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: until seven o eight was, which was when we were there, 408 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: and so that kind of, you know, you kind of 409 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: had its little run during that span with Diana Tarassi 410 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, like we were about to 411 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: bring Tennessee back. So that's kind of what attracted me to, 412 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: you know, to Tennessee. 413 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: What did you get from past summit that you took 414 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: with you when you went to the WNPA. 415 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: Man, I've gotten in life. It's not even basketball. 416 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 2: Uh. 417 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: She wasn't big on tattoos. But when she was she 418 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: got sick, I got a tattoo for her. Like she 419 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: always faced everything head on. So whatever journey, game, whatever, 420 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: it didn't matter, you know, she was gonnack it and 421 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: do her best. And so I asked her, like when 422 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: she got sick with Alzheimer's, I was like, so what 423 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: do you what do you do? Like, how do you 424 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: attack every day? And She's like left foot, right foot, breathe, repeat, 425 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: And so I think, just when things get hard in life, 426 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: on the court whatever, that's kind of what I take 427 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: with me. I mean, she was an amazing woman. I 428 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: can remember one time in college she got on me 429 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: the day before in practice and I was like, all right, coach, 430 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: I get it. So the next day I set my line. 431 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: We had six daying practice. I set my line for 432 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: like three thirty. I got to the gym at like 433 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 3: four fifteen. I'm like, I'm gonna be on the court 434 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: sweating when she gets here. I'm gonna show her that 435 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: I really. I pull up to the gym, her lights 436 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: on in the office, She's already there. So it's just 437 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: like every time you try to like outdo Pat with 438 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: Pat stuff, you never gonna outdo her with things she says. 439 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: And so even like when she got sick and even 440 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: when things weren't good, she's still because you know, it's 441 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: easy for people win championships and say all this stuff 442 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: like you gotta work hard and you gotta whatever. But 443 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: she always backed up everything she said. So I'm not 444 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: pass on it by any means. It's taken me a 445 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: long time to you know, put it to work. But 446 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: I think right now she would be really proud with 447 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: how I attack life. 448 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: Straight up, that's awesome. If you had to pick four 449 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: other players to play with from Tennessee to play against 450 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: Pat and the rest of the catalog of the Lady 451 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: of Oz, who were the four other players with. 452 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: Who would I pick? I mean, I gotta go with 453 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: Tamika and Shamika for sure, So that's three. 454 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's curtains already. 455 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: I would say Dajah, Charles rip Dadra. She was amazing. 456 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: She was the train and kind of like the four position, 457 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: was able to move mobile all that and then man 458 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: our point guard. We won two national championships. And on 459 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: any day, I'll take a Lexus hornbuckle over a lot 460 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 3: of different players. I think Lexus Hornbuckle Squad. 461 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: You know, one pick and you're playing with Lisa Leslie 462 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: right away, Like that's crazy. People look back on their 463 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: history and be like, man, Candas Parking, Lisa Leslie playing 464 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: it together, Like that's crazy. You know, as the history 465 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: go on, people be like, dang Magic played with Kareem 466 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like the feeling like it's 467 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: crazy to see legends like get an opportunity to play 468 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: together like you had Hryl Swoop, Cynthia Cooper, Tina Thompson, 469 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: Legends Hall of Fame is just like playing together. 470 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: Man, I looked at it. I'm a huge student of 471 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 3: the game. So basketball has always been on our television, 472 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: something that we've read about. I can look up in 473 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: the rafters at almost any gym and tell you every 474 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: person that's got their jersey retired, and you know, from 475 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: across the country. So when I got to playing with them, 476 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: playing with Lisa, like, I knew the history, I knew 477 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: what she meant to the game of basketball, and I 478 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: knew it was similar to kind of how San Antonio 479 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: got Tim Duncan. And you know, David Robinson was hurt 480 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: the year before Tim Duncan. It was similar. Lisa Leslie 481 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: was pregnant the year before, and I remember watching the 482 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: standings and hoping that La would drop. And it was 483 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: interesting because Chicago was an expansion team, so they were 484 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: in that draft and this guy got the second pick, 485 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: but I was hoping that La got the first pick. 486 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: And I remember when they got the first pick, my brother, 487 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: my middle brother, Marcus called me and was like, yeah, 488 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: we going to Kelly, and that was Yeah. 489 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: That's what's up. That's what's up. So you're playing with 490 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: the Sparks and I know you feel like you can 491 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: win the championship with this team, Like tell us about 492 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: them first couple of years with the Sparks and playing 493 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: with playing with Lisa Leslie and that much expectation on 494 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: y'all shoulders. 495 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: You know, I'll say this, and I know y'all aren't 496 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: a viral type of things, but we if we were 497 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: healthy all things, we should have won. So she was 498 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: she had her daughter the year before I got drafted. 499 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: That NCAA tournament, I was playing and reached and tore 500 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: my labor in my shoulder. So I was supposed to 501 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: have surgery and I was like, no, like it's an 502 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: Olympic year, I'm the number one pick. I want to play, 503 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: so like put me in the brace whatever. So I played, 504 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: but my shoulder just that year kept constantly popping out, 505 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 3: like just constantly popping out. Whatever. So we got to 506 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: the Western Conference finals and we lost on a last 507 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: second shot. Sophia Young threw up some bullshit and so 508 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 3: we went to game three. Then Becky Hammond wanted to 509 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 3: like drop thirty five on us. It was ridiculous. She 510 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: was doing all these like it was just ridiculous. So anyway, kudas, 511 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: I mean credit to them. They beat us. But that year, 512 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, you know, I got 513 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: rookie the year MVP, and I remember being like I 514 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: was going for the three peat because we won the 515 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: nca Tournament, Olympic gold medal, and I wanted to win 516 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 3: a WNBA championship all in the same year. So we 517 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: fell short. The next year, little did I know I 518 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 3: was I was expecting, like, you know, I played that 519 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: end of the year, didn't have any idea, and then 520 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: that off season I was like, oh, so I'm gonna 521 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: be a mom And that year I came back, but 522 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 3: I wasn't myself, you know, I came back, you know, 523 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 3: seven or eight weeks after I had my daughter, and 524 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: it took time to get going. I've torn my acl 525 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 3: and then I had to set out my freshman year 526 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 3: in Tennessee from a total knee reconstruction from woryal condole 527 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 3: resurface and like kind of similar to microfracture. My freshman 528 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: year tore my shoulder, had meniscus. There's nothing harder than 529 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: coming back from a baby. Like like your timing. I mean, 530 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: I was twenty three when I had her, so I 531 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: was pretty young. I was still working out. It's nothing 532 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 3: like I mean, your mind is like jumped and your 533 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: body's like three seconds behind. So it took forever, and 534 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: I relied a lot on my athleticism, I mean rebound 535 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: and pushing the ball, and it was just like your 536 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: hips everything, and so it took. I would say I 537 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: came back in July. I had her May thirteenth. I 538 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: came back July fifth to my first game. 539 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 540 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: And then I would say August September is when I 541 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: started feeling like I could play basketball again. I mean, 542 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: it was a different challenge. And then Lisa retired after 543 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: that year, so it was just like what could have 544 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: been if both of us were really healthy and on 545 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: the court at the same time. But you know, life happens, 546 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 3: and I'm so blessed to have had my daughter and 547 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 3: her be able to share my career. 548 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: I cannot fathom doing what my wife did when we 549 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: had like trying to be an athlete, and that be 550 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: one of my priorities that I have to you know, 551 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: deal with, intend to like when I was like for me, 552 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I had my children after I was playing. But like 553 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: even when just looking at that whole process, thinking to myself, 554 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: I would have had a problem hoop and I felt 555 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: like and I'm not even the primary guy, like you 556 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like just being there just because 557 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: I was trying to be involved, like staying up whatever 558 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: they you know, trying to get them sleep, trained and 559 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: all that. Like I would have been showing up like like. 560 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like going to just get 561 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: to the next day. But I think the biggest thing 562 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: was just as an athlete, you have certain things like 563 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: I pregame, nap, I sleep two hours before the game. 564 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: I have my pregame meal, I nap, I get up, 565 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: I shower, I do it this way, and it's like 566 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 3: every day is a different, Like you get her all 567 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: ready for the game and she throws up on all 568 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 3: everything and then you gotta change that flow bag and 569 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: then like yeah, she you know, she gets sick. I 570 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: mean I've missed a number of games because my mom 571 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: was a stay at home mom with us, And when 572 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm sick to this day, I still want my mom 573 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: and I want Layla to have that. I didn't ever 574 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: want her to be, Like, well, my mom was different 575 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: because she worked like I never wanted that, and so 576 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: when she's sick, shit shuts down like I have, like 577 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: I not made games, trips, I've delayed overseas, like my 578 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: baby is number one. So yeah, so it just went 579 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: from basketball being the be all end all to like, man, 580 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: there's more to life once I had my daughter. 581 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: Speaking on that with your experience of having your daughter, 582 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: like seeing the changes and everything that's being able to 583 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Ceba and and you know, reading about what what Skyler 584 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: went through, how do you feel about, you know, all 585 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: of the great advancements that I've been made, And I'm 586 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, obviously still a lot of more work and 587 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: further to go, but it was good seeing the improvements 588 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: that were made. 589 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's it's it's great because I 590 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: think all of us want to leave the game better 591 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: then we came into it, and we didn't have our 592 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: own rooms as rookies. You don't get it till your 593 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: fifth year. So you share a room, like share a 594 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: room like, yo, are you about to nap? So, I 595 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: mean stay in the bathroom and everything. That's exactly. So 596 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: when I had my daughter, I nursed for fifteen months, 597 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: so she had to go everywhere I went. And I 598 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: was very adamant about not sacrificing my career for my 599 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: daughter and not sacrificing, you know, being a mom for 600 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: my career, Like I just wanted to have both. And 601 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: so she went everywhere with me. So my mom went 602 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: with me, her dad went with me sometimes, and I'd 603 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: have to buy the other portion of the room, so 604 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: I'd have to buy my room on the road, buy 605 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: the airline ticket, figure out you know, childcare, yeah, nanny whatever. 606 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: It just was really hard and all that why trying 607 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: to play. 608 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: And trying you know, which is crazy. 609 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: And so now to see you know, they're gonna have 610 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: a stipend or I guess I'm included in that. So 611 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna have a stipen. We're gonna be able to 612 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: have attorney leave where you get your full salary. Stuff 613 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: that you're like, wow, you didn't already have that. That's 614 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: what I like. 615 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: I heard I didn't have like a family room, Like 616 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: how do you not have a family room? So you 617 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, during the game, your kids can 618 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: go and have somewhere that they cool, where it's a 619 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: nanny and all of that stuff. Like every team I've 620 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: been a part of in the NBA, we've had a 621 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: family room where the whole separate place where they got food, 622 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: they can get drinks, they can feel the people know them, 623 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: they get badges, and it by the time the quarter 624 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: of the season, they know each other and they know 625 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: our kids. And they have nannies, two three, four of them. 626 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: They rotate and everything is taken care of and you 627 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: don't have these issues, and it's how it is. That's crazy. 628 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: But here's the thing I do want to say. You know, 629 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: the NBA hasn't always been what the NBA is right now, 630 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: not at all. It's been a growing process. So we 631 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: have to remember that it is a growing process. But 632 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: you are kind of what you accept and when the 633 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: players decided listen, this is the way it's going to be. 634 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: You know, you got to invest. I mean, we talk 635 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: about the impact David Stern had. A lot of the 636 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: things he said and did at the time weren't popular, right, 637 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: you know, it was about progress exactly. I mean the 638 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: NBA was on tape delay in the eighties. I remember 639 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: watching the playoffs on tape delay, right, So we're looking 640 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: at a finished product in the NBA and trying to 641 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: compare it to the WBA. And so that's where I'm like, 642 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: hold on, let's pause this. We're our own league and 643 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna try to be our own league. But in 644 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: saying that, there are some things that are non negotiable. 645 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as a professional, just to hear it, 646 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: like cause we fight for it. Like you know, I 647 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: love the WNBA. I love basketball like all kind of basketball, 648 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: no matter where it is. And we knew about it, 649 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: but it's going details to hear y'all speak about it 650 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: in details of like look, we don't have this, we 651 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: share rooms, we gotta wait for this flight, or it's just. 652 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: Doing all this when our main job is overseas, and 653 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 3: that's that's crazy. Twenty times what I made in the 654 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: WNBA overseas, That's how I fed my daughter. So we're 655 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: doing this to just grow the game. And so you're 656 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: adding that to the fact that like in Russia, I 657 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: had a driver, a chef, we flew, we had extravagant parties. 658 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: They took my translator to translator, took care of my dog, like, 659 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: we have all these things. And so then we're coming 660 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: back here to grow the game. But at some point 661 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: you're like, at what cost are you gonna let let 662 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: some of these things go. 663 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: That's like Diane Tarassi Stan she didn't play the one 664 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: yet and she stayed just they paid her. That's crazy, 665 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: like like that's just to hear that. 666 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: And this is what I'm saying. I'm optimistic, but I'm 667 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: cautiously optimistic because you know, we still we've come a 668 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: long way, but we still have a long way to go, 669 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: and I think that's the way that we got to 670 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: look at it. You know, hopefully before too long, you know, 671 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: we won't have to go overseas. 672 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: You finally get the opportunity to have a championship season 673 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: and a tough playoff run Game five that you had 674 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: to play, Like, tell us about that game and like 675 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: how that game came down to the end and y'all want. 676 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: Well, we had it locked up. We were up to 677 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: one at home. Our owners had already planned our championship 678 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: run like that night. We had vans waiting for us 679 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 3: and like all this stuff, and we just couldn't finish 680 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 3: it off at stables. I remember going home and just like, man, 681 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 3: all this we've done all year, it could be done, 682 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 3: Like we could lose and all the work we put 683 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 3: in could just be for nothing. And then our coach 684 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: came in, Brian Agler, the next day and was like, 685 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: if somebody at the beginning of this season gave you 686 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: one game to win a championship, would you take it? 687 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: And I was like hell yeah, Like yeah, he was 688 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: like all right, this is that opportunity, and we just 689 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: kind of changed our outlook from we lost it and 690 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: it was hours and they took it and get you know, 691 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 3: so like all right, let's go, and we went out 692 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 3: there and just played in the moment. In game five, 693 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff happened. We were up ten with 694 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: a minute ten to go and almost lost it. They 695 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: went up and then Mekka came down and had to 696 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: hit a crazy put back at the you know, so 697 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: it it was just represented our season, just how we 698 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 3: just kept fighting and it wouldn't have gone any other way. 699 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 3: I do believe strongly an energy, and I think you 700 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: guys can feel it on a team. When the energy 701 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: is there, you win some games you shouldn't win just 702 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: because it's positive energy. Like we talk about work environment, 703 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: we talk about things. I mean, like even what y'all have, 704 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: Like there's got to be some sort of positive energy 705 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: in any relationship that you have that will take you 706 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: further than you would if you were negative. 707 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: I agree with, but that's not true him. I don't 708 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: like this. 709 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 3: That's from the outside and you can keep that inside. 710 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: So to win a championship, to finally win one like 711 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: to be called a champion? Used to see when you 712 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 2: grew up. You see, like I say, the shrill swoops 713 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: to Lisa, Liz, you see all these people win these championships. 714 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: To be called a champion, What do that mean? 715 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, in LA, if you're a winner, 716 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: like you're loved forever, right, And that's how it was. 717 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: And I remember Michael Cooper telling me, like Coop was like, listen, 718 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 3: if you win in LA, you will You'll be fine, 719 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: like you'll be great, And that's how it was. I 720 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: mean to be called a champion. I'm a firm believer 721 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: and people can luck up on one thing, so I 722 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: kind of believe in you gotta win too to be 723 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 3: considered a real, true champion. And I still believe that. 724 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: In college, I said the same thing. In order for 725 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 3: me to be able to be mentioned with the greatest 726 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: in college, I gotta win two and it's the same thing. 727 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: I feel that way in the WNBA. It feels great, 728 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: but I think it's more of like a reflection at 729 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 3: the end of your career, you know, because we won, 730 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: you put all that effort and then you go home. 731 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 3: And we talked about this. We talk about this in 732 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: the makeup room all the time at Turner. What's your 733 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: biggest feeling? Is it losing or is it winning? And 734 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: for me, I remember losing more than I remember winning. 735 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: Like winning, I feel like you move on faster. Losing 736 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 3: is like you're in your bed, like a for seasons 737 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 3: that you should have won. You're in your bed like 738 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 3: Layla's knocking on the door, like mommy, like you're gonna 739 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: come out and open the. 740 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: Blinds, like just hit there. You don't want to watch 741 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: basketball on TV, you don't want to watch sports. 742 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 3: Watch anything. And it's like being a champion is great 743 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: in comparison to being to losing that year. You know, 744 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: I remember, I've played twelve seasons. Eleven of those I 745 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: can recall the end of every season, like I can 746 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 3: go back to that place in my mind and like 747 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 3: tell you exactly what I did after the game, and 748 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 3: you know, like it's just the worst feeling ever. So 749 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: I think it's more of like you don't want to 750 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 3: feel that way, so you're happy you're a champion. 751 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: Straight up? Who is your not top but your favorite 752 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: five women basketball players that you loved the most. 753 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 3: Cheryl Miller was before her time in the sense that 754 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 3: if Cheryl Miller had the opportunities that we have now, 755 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: I think she'd go down as the greatest player in 756 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 3: the history of basketball. And you know, there's a little video, 757 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: there's video and tapes and obviously she played in the WNBA, 758 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 3: but it was way past you know, her prime. But 759 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: she's a player that the videos we did have and 760 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: my dad showed me and I mean she was six', 761 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: two could do it all at that, time could dunk. 762 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: COULD i mean That Jerry crow was moving and. Transit 763 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 3: So Cheryl miller is definitely one THAT i looked up. To, 764 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 3: Obviously Cynthia. Cooper you look at that and that whole 765 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: run during that, time AND i, think you, know ninety 766 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: Six olympics had a lot to do with where women's 767 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: basketball is right. Now they won the gold medal and 768 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 3: just the history started. THERE i, mean you talk About Lisa, 769 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: leslie talk About Don. STALEY i MEAN i had the 770 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: pleasure of playing With Titia. Pincero remember the first TIME 771 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: i saw. Her my brother went To Bradley university and 772 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 3: she was playing on THE odu team and my brother 773 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 3: went to the game because somebody was talking to was 774 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: on the girls team And, tisha, dude everybody on a, 775 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: team no look past is spinning all that she Was 776 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: and so it was just you, know so those are 777 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 3: probably my Top. 778 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 2: Like your game got. Everything you can shoot the, three 779 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: you can post, uff you can throw off the, dribble 780 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: and you know about the game like, WHO i know 781 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: you got stuff from different, people but who was the 782 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: few people that you pad in your? Game after? That 783 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: you want to kind of SO. 784 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: I grew up the Biggest Allen iverson fan and my 785 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: brother got drafted and then traded To. Philly, mike all 786 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: of them crazy LIKE. A i was on my. WALL 787 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: i had like the finger. Band so my brother one 788 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 3: birthday got me his finger, band AND ai gave me 789 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 3: his finger band AND i played with it every game 790 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 3: in high. School that was like my, magic like the. Magic, yeah, 791 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: magic what was? 792 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: It? 793 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: Mike all, right, wow, Magic. Mike i'ming the stripping movie. 794 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: Like. 795 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 3: Mike Like, Mike, Yeah Like, mike. 796 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: Is that why you wore number? 797 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: Three that is exactly WHY i wore number. Three so 798 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: WHEN i got to, COLLEGE i wore thirty two for 799 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: my dad because that was his. Number and then WHEN 800 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: i got to, college it was. Retired Deja charles had, 801 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: it so it was. Retired SO i was, like all, 802 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: RIGHT i gotta go, back LIKE i gotta go TO 803 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 3: ai and SO. Ai, HONESTLY i remember being out there 804 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: doing all the like and when mixtape, stuff you, know 805 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: WHEN ai jumped up and hit it off his elbow 806 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 3: in that two Thousand All star, game like all. THAT 807 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: i tried all that in the, driveway SO i would say. 808 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: Him you, KNOW i was a Big Chris webber fan, 809 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: too just because he was mobile and a four and 810 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: could dribble and shoot and all that and so, yeah 811 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: and then just EVERY i mean doctor J like my 812 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 3: dad had that on, repeat being able to go. Up 813 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 3: so when you watch me go to the, basket SOMETIMES 814 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: i get in trouble Because i'd be trying. To, yeah 815 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: so it was just yeah for. 816 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: You to be you, know you on a female Now 817 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: rushmore and you from the. Crib so you know What 818 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: i'm saying that we wed. It talk about it in, 819 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: general What chicago basketball, on What chicago basketball means and 820 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: how to past you, know how we we we wear 821 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: that badge with pride and like look you see my 822 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: shirt shout Out, pledge allegiance to the, flag shout out 823 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: my twelve hundred label people In. Chicago but you know 824 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: we wear we run around and like you, Know i'm From, 825 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: Chicago i'm from the. Crib you, know like we we 826 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: run with that and we wear that priude talk about 827 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: what that. Means, YEAH i. 828 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 3: Mean chicago has always BEEN i think the measuring stick of, 829 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: basketball AND i Don't YEAH i heard say, that you, 830 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 3: know without understanding the huge impact That chicago has had 831 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 3: on my. CAREER i remember Playing marshall and we beat 832 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: them At. Marshall AND i remember THE uic tournaments in 833 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 3: the summer where that's where you went hoop expressed we 834 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 3: went hoops the gym when you go and you figure 835 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 3: out if your game got better from the summer. Previous 836 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 3: AND i remember going in There Michael jordan was working 837 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 3: out With Tim grover and watching through the window before 838 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 3: we could get on the court. PRACTICE i, mean all 839 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: that has had an impact on WHO i am as 840 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 3: an individual but also as a basketball. Player and LIKE i, 841 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 3: said when you get respect From, chicago it doesn't matter 842 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 3: if anybody else respects, You it really. Doesn't it means 843 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 3: so because it is. Different that's the thing, is you, 844 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 3: know you figure out every single day if you're as 845 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: good as you have worked or as you think you. 846 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: Are she just, said every single. Day that's the part 847 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: About chicago that people don't, understand, like, oh you you 848 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: want a, championship that that don't. Matter this next game 849 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: somebody gonna try and chin check. You you could hoop or 850 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: you can, shoot but all you. Tough IF i knock 851 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: you down and you're gonna get. Up and that's what 852 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: you know What i'm, Saying that's what creates that toughness 853 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: and that greediness that you see from every single. PLAYER 854 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: i don't care you name. 855 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: One and it's what's insane IS i love looking at the. 856 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 3: History LIKE i Remember Derrick rose in sixth grade played For, 857 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: ferrari going in doing the same stuff he Crazy las 858 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 3: rookie in second. YEAR i, mean going in there in sixth, 859 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: grade double pumping. You i've been doing, this like the, 860 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 3: layups the floaters all day in sixth, Grade LIKE i remember. 861 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 3: That and so it's just really cool to see the 862 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 3: people From chicago when they're, young BECAUSE i think you 863 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 3: see a lot of the history history and people are 864 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 3: wowed and, like oh, man he could do. That, no 865 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: he's been doing this in sixth. GRADE i, remember and 866 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 3: JUST i mean, Everything remember The hoops was it The 867 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 3: Hoops Prep, show The preps whatever where it's like Eighty 868 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: John dockery And Cappy Pond dexter and. 869 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: They were All Jason straight AND i, like. 870 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 3: LIKE i dreamed of. That and then it's just funny 871 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 3: because you see we only had two. Classes there were 872 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 3: none of this twenty seven classes where it was like 873 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 3: twenty seven state. Championships double, yeah we could Have we 874 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 3: should have probably had a playoff between single and DOUBLE. 875 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: A that would have been no. Competition but single and 876 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 3: DOUBLE a and DOUBLE a was, like let's, yeah let's 877 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: know you had the city league. Champion they came. Down 878 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 3: that's WHAT i. 879 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: Said, now like now we when we came, through they 880 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: had city. Tournament one team come out the entire city 881 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: and they repped the. City now people could lose city 882 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: and then, four, three four or five different teams still 883 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: go out of. City, DOWNSTAIRS i was, like how does this? 884 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: Happen that's what it is like when you're living now 885 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: win BECAUSE i, remember Like i'm watching checking in your 886 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: little oak for, Them i'm, like they lost. City i'm, 887 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: like damn. Okay it was, like, no they won. State i'm, 888 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: like how did they lose? City but when in, state 889 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: like what that's. 890 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 3: They changed all the. Rules BUT i remember going to 891 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 3: See Sean. Livingston Sean livingston was he that? 892 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: Deal, No so, listen here's the best story about as. 893 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: Dot so the first TIME i ever Met Sean, livingston 894 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: this is doing my state championship nineteen ninety, eight were 895 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 1: in state. Tournament he's like this big halftime. Show he's 896 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: out there on the, show running Around joven the, BALL 897 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: a little big head, kid little bitty, kid head bigger 898 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: than his old body. BASKETBALL i think he got it 899 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: on the. Strain That's Sean. Livingston he grow up to 900 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: be As, yeah first time ever. Matter he had to 901 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: be like eight or. 902 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: Nine here's the. Thing my brother played with At, Bradley, 903 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: right he grew up Near. Peoria Seanda. Right we went 904 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 3: to a camp and played against each other. Together that's 905 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 3: crazy at a camp In. Peoria and it's just the. 906 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 3: CONNECTIONS i mean. Everybody you have certain tournaments that you go, 907 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 3: to and the people that are trash don't go to 908 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 3: those tournaments because they know that they gonna get exposed 909 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 3: at they and you, know so That's chicago. 910 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 2: Town play the country boys. Nothing you, know small school 911 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 2: you want to. BE i was from a small, school 912 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 2: so you want to be accepted from the big. City 913 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: Like that's WHY i used to be so aggressive and 914 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: so coming, up. 915 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 3: Everybody THOUGHT i Was everybody THOUGHT i was, soft so 916 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 3: they would all try to test me. 917 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: DOWNTOWN i THINK i was BECAUSE i was, skinny BUT 918 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 2: i as tough as a. Motherfucker, like but BECAUSE i was, skinny. 919 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: Fo hundred and eighty five pounds of. 920 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 2: Him my physique looked like he's skinny in the motherfucker 921 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 2: and it. 922 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 1: Didn't look like. Itz look it. Buzz it was one 923 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 1: to eighty five at six, nine but it Was. Freid 924 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: BUT i was, available THOUGH i ain't say. THAT i 925 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: said you physically and you look you were. 926 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 3: Here here's a QUESTION i have for, y'all because we asked. 927 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 3: This The chicago CLAIM kg IS. Kg, No, no, no, 928 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 3: okay let me ask another. Question Does chicago basketball CLAIM. 929 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: Kg we, yeah we were claiming for for that senior 930 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: year because he did legendary stuff and he came out 931 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: Of chicago straight to the high. School but like you. 932 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: CAN'T i, MEAN i don't think he would Claim. 933 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 3: CHICAGO i don't think he Claimed, chicago BUT i Think 934 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 3: chicago made. 935 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: Him oh, no we definitely Am we impacted. 936 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: HIM i made him, impacted impacted. 937 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: A million, percent a million. Percent and we can't wait 938 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: to have him on here BECAUSE i want to talk about. 939 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 1: IT i want. To you, Know i'm from The red 940 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: At west where he played, that so you, KNOW. 941 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 3: I remember watching. 942 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: HIM i THINK i think definitely that was that. Pick 943 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: i'm trusting. Me when he touched down in the, city 944 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: it was crazy. 945 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 3: Explain to people that it's, Similar like it's like everybody's 946 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 3: hype About brownie And zaire or anybody paying. Together i'm, 947 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 3: LIKE i realized it was two of the best in 948 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 3: high school teaming up together to play at one and 949 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 3: one coming from out of state to Play yo. 950 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: De ro's, Career like how you See i'm so proud 951 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 2: of The rose and see WHERE. 952 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 3: I think people still don't understand the impact that he. 953 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 3: Had AND i didn't want When chicago had the. PICK 954 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 3: i didn't want to go To chicago play at. HOME 955 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 3: i didn't want to do. That and D rose went 956 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 3: To chicago and. 957 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: Down put it, down put the way. 958 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: Down he brought like that light that you ain't have 959 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 2: In chicago Since mike never. Left it was like it 960 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 2: was a whole new. Energy and even. 961 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: With i'll go a step further because even with What 962 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: mike and them, did he had a he had a 963 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: step further because it's, homegrown, yeah energy and the roads 964 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: to MEN i go talk about the. 965 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: Rolls it was like it was, Great like just. 966 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 3: Think iconic moments like when he was in high school 967 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 3: and was playing at The United, center cock back hit 968 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: him with his. Chest the dude. 969 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: Red so hard back and what you do start hearing? 970 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: About it was, like, man send. ME i got a 971 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: young over there this when he was WHEN i first 972 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: ever seen the, play and they, said, yeah this, boy 973 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: they gave HIM bingi, nothing BUT i, said oh that 974 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: right there was like an indicator to make you turn 975 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: here like wait what like, okay like let me see what's. 976 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 3: Up but the crazy thing too IS i went and 977 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 3: watch the. WORKOUT i was coming back from having my 978 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 3: daughter and my trainer was, working you, know trying to 979 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 3: get me back into, it and D rose And westbrook 980 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: were working out before my. WORKOUT i have never seen 981 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 3: anybody not flow down when they over you know how 982 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 3: like you, Okay like it's the same. SPEED i have 983 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 3: never seen that in my. Life and their workout it 984 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 3: was them. 985 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: Two right, there like D rose at his prime And 986 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: Russell westbrook, Throughout like those are two most explosive point 987 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: guards we've ever. Seen like dam man trying to catch. 988 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: Up now he coming along and here here he's something 989 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: specially but them Two John, moran young boy, Fresh i'm telling, 990 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: YOU i talk about them all on my shoulder. Bounces, 991 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: yeah but it is. 992 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 3: He waits like a little muscle one time because he 993 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 3: flexes And i'm, like, Stop, no he's. 994 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: Allowed i'll, Know i'll allow. It i'll allowed because When 995 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: i've seen him go down the lane and he took 996 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: off On Aaron, baines and then just Like Aaron baines 997 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: laid people, down he flushed him and went kept he 998 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: kept going back on. BOTH i, Said, oh this young, 999 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: boy he is, impressive he's. Special, yeah he don't Want, 1000 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: yeah you don't want to get. 1001 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 3: Heard because he's guards like. That that's What i'm. SAYING 1002 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 3: i wish WHEN i was, younger somebody would have just 1003 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 3: taught me how to control, it BECAUSE i was fearless 1004 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 3: and wiry and just Like gheit all this and went 1005 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 3: to the hoop and it's, like there's a way to. 1006 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 3: Land there's a. 1007 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: Way to if had the gears he take now, before 1008 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: if he was able to like, now you can see 1009 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: he slow it. Down but like, before he used to 1010 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: be a million miles To. 1011 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 3: Westbrook you look at D, rose you look at like A, 1012 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,479 Speaker 3: jah WHICH i hope now medicine is caught up where 1013 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 3: they'll teach him how to do all that stuff a little. 1014 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 1: Bit that's what happened To Steve francis his knee went 1015 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: out to look at. 1016 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 3: All the wiry. Explosive it doesn't. 1017 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 2: Because you're going you only got so many jumps. 1018 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 3: In you tell that To. ZION i always stop him 1019 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 3: from duncan like you not a lot of dunk unless 1020 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 3: you in the. 1021 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: GAME i told him that he was standing in front 1022 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: of the. Room you just come. Off Thank i'm going to. 1023 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: HIM i, said, no. 1024 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 2: Between his legs and think it right. 1025 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 3: Now it's just. Unbelievable he gets that in the. Air 1026 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 3: he's so. 1027 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: Exact, yeah he observed that. 1028 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 3: Much be, like it's really not supposed to, fly but 1029 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 3: it is not. Possible we got this. 1030 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: Birthday he sit down on that, bench he'd be, Dead, 1031 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: tad that would be so talk about how you made 1032 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: the transition and got into the media and where you 1033 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: are now With turner and you have your own podcast 1034 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: With Christian. Lelo y'all getting it. In Had kobe on, 1035 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: already didn't y'all Have? 1036 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 3: Charles, yeah we've Had Chuck, Kobe Robin, Roberts we've Had Alison. 1037 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 3: Felix we've had a number of really. 1038 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: Cool they working out, people big time they working out. Here. 1039 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 2: BLACK i, mean you know What i'm. 1040 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 3: Saying your people have to call us our, people you 1041 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 3: know What i'm. Saying but, yeah you, know, no it. 1042 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 3: Was it was SOMETHING i really. ENJOYED i, Mean i'm 1043 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 3: sitting on my couch watching, basketball talking, ship so why 1044 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 3: not why not get paid to do, it you know. 1045 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 3: Exactly so it ended up being like the second best 1046 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 3: job in the world to, me other than playing. Basketball 1047 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 3: some playing basketball is number, One like talking about. It 1048 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 3: it was just a no. 1049 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: Brainer the only difference between the two is that you 1050 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: ain't gonna hurt yourself doing. 1051 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 3: This, Exactly LIKE i can go out the night before 1052 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 3: and drink With chuck and talk you, know on. Air 1053 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 3: BUT i think it was. That but the transition WAS 1054 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 3: i did not want to go. OVERSEAS i went To, 1055 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 3: china and my daughter has she went to preschool In. 1056 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 3: Russia she went over with me To. Istanbul she's been 1057 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 3: To china with me. Twice we Spent christmases In, China, 1058 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 3: FRANCE i mean. Everywhere she was Speaking russia with a 1059 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 3: little black girl with, stuffs talking about straight Up. Russian 1060 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 3: so it got to the point where she was like 1061 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 3: eight And layla is my. Homie that's like my best 1062 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 3: like she's just my. Soul for. Sure and every TIME 1063 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 3: i tell, her, like all, right we're going in, someplace like, great, okay, 1064 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 3: Mommy like when are we? Leaving like let me get my, 1065 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 3: stuff you know. Whatever her school is great work with. 1066 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 3: Us this last TIME i told her we were going To, 1067 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 3: china she was, like, okay mommy and turned her head 1068 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,359 Speaker 3: and she like started. Crying like you could see it 1069 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 3: was starting to like really affect. Her AND i was, 1070 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,280 Speaker 3: like you, know there's got to be a happy balance 1071 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 3: of WHERE i can have a living but then also 1072 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 3: allow my daughter to like have, activities have nom you, 1073 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 3: know friends in The, states AND i always have to, 1074 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 3: yeah and to be consistent and So, turner, OBVIOUSLY i 1075 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 3: Watched team everybody WATCHED tt inside THE. Nba everybody watches 1076 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 3: THAT NBA. Tv if you're a, fan you're WATCHING NBA tv. 1077 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: Rights so that was. 1078 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 3: Me it was always on two sixteen ON NBA tv. 1079 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 3: Always so that's kind of HOW i. STARTED i was 1080 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 3: looking at that and came in for you, know one 1081 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 3: or two things in the studio just to kind of 1082 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 3: fill in for. Somebody and Then area twenty one was 1083 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 3: when it really kicked, off AND i was on WITH 1084 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 3: Kg All star one, time and then went on the 1085 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 3: show a couple of times and it was just great, vibe, 1086 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 3: vibes make up, room just with, him with, everybody all the. 1087 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 3: Talent then the next year they asked me to do players, 1088 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 3: only SO i did players, only and then they one 1089 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 3: of the talent took a took a, job you, know 1090 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 3: in THE, nba and so they were, like, hey you 1091 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 3: want to fill? IN i was like, perfect, Right and 1092 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 3: so that's kind of when it was two years ago 1093 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 3: WHEN i started consistently going To atlanta and NOW i 1094 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 3: just love. IT i, mean the people is really what you, 1095 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 3: know like your teammates can make you want to come to, 1096 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 3: practice like can You that's exactly teams that have been, 1097 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 3: successful and it's just like you don't like the, People 1098 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter how much success you have if 1099 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 3: you don't mess with the people you work with or your. 1100 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 3: Teammates it's miserable telling, you but. 1101 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: No that's that's one hundred percent what it. Is it 1102 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: turned it Like i'm you, Know i'm there now and 1103 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: been there last year and a, half and like you, 1104 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: said it's like you going, There you've got a great 1105 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 1: group of teammates that you can't about to go hang 1106 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: out with you. 1107 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 3: Know you know they have your. 1108 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: Back y'all about to sit, down, talk, crab hang, out 1109 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: kick and have a good. Time literally you going down order, 1110 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: fool you, know do your production meetings and then you 1111 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: get your work. Done but you you, know it's like 1112 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: it's like you're hanging out type. Vibe it's. Not we 1113 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 1: never feel like we at work really like you. 1114 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 3: Know in the maker room is never music. 1115 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: Playing Like i'm. 1116 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 3: Talking everybody's. Talking it's not just talent with the makeup. 1117 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 1: Is janie and everybody. Everybody, YEAH i know WHAT i 1118 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 1: want to. Ask so when you when you start getting that, 1119 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: bread like not the politically correct. Thing what you, win 1120 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: what you want is splurged. Down did you look back on, like, 1121 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: yeah that was a young right. Stuff but like even a, 1122 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: mistake you know sometimes we. Do so you got to 1123 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: treat yourself a little. Bit you work real. Hard you 1124 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,240 Speaker 1: you know you earned. 1125 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 3: It that's a good that's a good. POINT i don't 1126 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 3: know IF i ever bought anything that was, crazy But 1127 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 3: i'm real particular about my, vacation SO i THINK i 1128 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 3: took way more extravagant vacations than my. Means at the 1129 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: beginning stage in my career like that was my big 1130 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 3: dream was just to have just go on dope vacation 1131 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 3: and just yeah, nice weee bring the people THAT i 1132 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 3: want to, bring you, know have a good. 1133 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: Time and we know they could Be couseley. 1134 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 3: Yes like damn. 1135 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 2: You drink so? 1136 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 3: Much Orgs, jude. 1137 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 2: Who was a walking. Bucket who's a woman's players that 1138 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,439 Speaker 2: every time you seem like she gets. 1139 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 3: BUCKETS i Mean Simona. AUGUSTUS i played against her in 1140 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 3: college AT, lsu and then when she came To. Minnesota 1141 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,399 Speaker 3: they weren't good her FIRST i don't know how many, 1142 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 3: years but she would get thirty every and we would 1143 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 3: be doubling like we know where the basket was coming, 1144 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 3: from like nobody else can score on their. Team we 1145 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 3: got to stop, her and she would still get a. 1146 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 3: BUCKET i mean that little like fade shot over her. 1147 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 3: Head you couldn't block. It you knew that the right 1148 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 3: to left was gonna come, back you knew, it but 1149 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 3: she still got. Crossed she to, me is one of 1150 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 3: those players, that especially in her. 1151 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: PRIME i remember we had Big baby on here and 1152 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: he was telling us like they if they high, school 1153 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: she was the best, player like even though they was 1154 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: whatever in front of the, area like she was the best. 1155 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 1: Player Be bas and her went to the same high 1156 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 1: school and like we were teammates with The magic and 1157 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: he used to be, like, man, listen he was All 1158 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: american all that he. Was like she had more college 1159 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: coaches than people coming to the school for her than 1160 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: anybody the show. 1161 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 3: Moan was. CRAZY i, mean she still gets, buckets but to. 1162 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 2: Be arguably be the best female basketball player, ever how 1163 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: did that feel like what you dreamed? Of you came 1164 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: up and you've seen male side and female side, basketball 1165 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 2: and you just like your career is going to be 1166 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 2: mashed up with people's. Career how do that feels? 1167 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 3: LIKE i think the biggest thing for me WAS i 1168 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 3: was always about versatility and about crossover. Appeal AND i 1169 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 3: think the thing THAT i really respect is when some 1170 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 3: of the dudes come up to me and, like you, 1171 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 3: know In, chicago you get that nod of, Respect yeah 1172 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 3: you get. It AND i almost hold on to that 1173 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 3: more than you, know even. NATIONALLY i think WHEN i 1174 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 3: got that respect In chicago WHEN i CAME i REMEMBER 1175 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 3: i came down and played at A usc tournament Against 1176 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 3: Cappy pondexter And Cappy pondexter was, like you talk About 1177 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 3: mount rushmore like In chicago, basketball not just female, basketball 1178 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 3: talking about male female all That Cappy. Pond, LIKE i 1179 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 3: was in eighth grade AND i came up To capy 1180 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 3: and was, Like, Hey I'm Cannas. Park she's, LIKE i 1181 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 3: know who you. ARE i was, like oh you do 1182 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 3: know's WHO i? Am you? Know AND i think that 1183 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 3: to me is when men see what they're going to, 1184 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 3: see women see what they're going to. See but when 1185 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 3: you get that crossover appeal of both is WHEN i 1186 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 3: think you really have the. 1187 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 2: Respects, YEAH i used to hear about you like a 1188 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: long time, ago and uh When capy, CAME i was 1189 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 2: a Big Cappy pointdexter fan because we used to play 1190 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 2: Against State High school all the Time marshall and then 1191 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: after she went, OUT i always pay attention to. Her 1192 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 2: then you came and like for you to be so 1193 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 2: dominant and just so, versatile you was. DIFFERENT i feel 1194 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 2: like you was kind of like. ME i was a 1195 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 2: different type of player that they never really kind of seen. 1196 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 2: Before and you was the same. Way you was, tall 1197 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 2: you can, dribble you can. Shoot you know What i'm. 1198 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 2: Saying you could post up like you did every single. 1199 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 2: Thing so like you was the one to like The Tamika, 1200 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 2: kussing like when she came, out she was a versatile type, 1201 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 2: player but you took it to an extreme like and 1202 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 2: girls coming behind. You now it's just. 1203 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 3: Just laugh because THE, nba now you, know when we're coming, 1204 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 3: up it was like the fours ran the middle, floor 1205 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 3: they reversed the, ball they ran over they screen and 1206 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 3: they popped or they rolled and it was LIKE i 1207 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 3: remember rebounding the ball and pushing it and coaches being 1208 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 3: like hold, on, no like doors can't push the. 1209 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: Ball that's what they used to. 1210 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 3: Doing so it's just fighting through. That and now you 1211 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 3: see where and this is WHAT i laugh about all the, 1212 00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 3: time like you had fours in yourself and Like odom 1213 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 3: and you know even Like dirks now that's what it, 1214 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 3: was but Just Dirk wise and now you See giannis 1215 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 3: and you're, like that is the reason why it is 1216 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 3: the way it, is, Yes and so it's always like 1217 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 3: a steady. Point and you know WHEN i came into the, 1218 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 3: LEAGUE i can say it now like there weren't fours 1219 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 3: that were pushing the ball and handle the. Ball and you, 1220 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 3: know THE nba likes to claim that they were the 1221 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 3: first to have the four to push the. Ball, no 1222 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 3: BUT i think it's just about changing the game and 1223 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 3: about progress and the evolution of. 1224 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 2: It let me ask you, this because like when it 1225 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 2: was okay for me to get the ball off the 1226 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 2: board and push, IT i had to always dunk. IT i, 1227 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 2: know IF i got this ball off this board and push, 1228 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 2: IT i either got to lay it, up go coast 1229 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 2: to coast and lit it, up or go coach the 1230 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 2: coast and dunk it for my coach not to say 1231 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 2: nothing to. Me was that the same like we asks 1232 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 2: for you BECAUSE i, know like they telling you not 1233 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 2: to do, it and when you finally do, it you 1234 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 2: like all. Right SO i, know WHEN i get this 1235 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 2: board AND i, PUSHED i either got to make a 1236 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 2: play for somebody OR i got a score that what gave. 1237 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 3: You at the, beginning it was like. That at the, 1238 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 3: beginning it was like. That BUT i think as we 1239 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 3: started going back and there were like more advanced, stats 1240 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 3: more things like. THAT i remember there was a stat 1241 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 3: In tennessee of WHEN i rebounded the, ball like our 1242 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 3: percentage of scoring when that, happened and it was like 1243 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 3: significantly higher than. Anywhere and it's not by. Accident SO 1244 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 3: i think when those stats kind of came into, where you, 1245 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 3: know OBVIOUSLY i had to keep my turnovers, down but 1246 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 3: even just a simple give and, go you know how 1247 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 3: hard it is to train your. BODY i don't want 1248 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 3: to guard that somebody who's dribbling down because you, know, 1249 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 3: guards they move their, feet do all. That you, know 1250 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 3: whatever Post we don't want to do. That Like i'm 1251 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 3: trying to guard an ice on that, Side i'm trying 1252 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 3: to hedge and get back to. MINE i need help 1253 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 3: on the. 1254 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: RECOVERY i got a run hard to give. 1255 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 3: Back, YEAH i got to run back and all. That 1256 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 3: LIKE i don't want to. 1257 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 2: GUARD i think felt good to hear something that they 1258 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: didn't want you to do To, like now you hear 1259 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 2: a coach to be, like, hey when you get the boy, 1260 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 2: pushed because you, know being as a big man or 1261 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 2: being as labeled as a big, man the first thing 1262 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,919 Speaker 2: they'd be, like get it to the. Guard but now 1263 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 2: when they see, it they be wanted to be. Repetitive every. 1264 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Game oh, no you know you get the boy push 1265 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 2: the boy. 1266 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 3: Push, yeah, no it's like, that and it's. 1267 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 2: And you you was like they weren't doing, that like 1268 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 2: you you play center sometimes and you're setting it up 1269 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 2: like that's. Transcending and you know What i'm, saying like 1270 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 2: you showing women's basketball like a whole different, level like 1271 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 2: it's changing because of. You you, know, WELL. 1272 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 3: I think it's it's a lot of a lot of different. 1273 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 3: THINGS i, MEAN i don't. Know you guys have probably 1274 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 3: been told not to do a move a million. Times, 1275 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah Like pat was against me using my left hand 1276 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 3: because you, know my, dad IF i didn't use my 1277 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 3: left hand on the left, side LIKE i had twenty 1278 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 3: push ups on that, Own, yeah why didn't? You because you, 1279 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 3: know when you play, better, like that's getting. Blocked so 1280 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 3: if you come through and, shoot, no that's getting, blocked 1281 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 3: that's blocked. Twenty you, Know that's how it. Was and 1282 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 3: so for, me IF i would go in and miss 1283 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 3: a left handed, shot coach would be, like just use 1284 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 3: your right, hand And i'd be like looking at the, stands, 1285 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 3: like but my, Dad but LIKE i THINK i think. 1286 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: That's like now we talk about looking at the, GAME 1287 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: i mean women's and men's just looking at the. Game. 1288 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Now i've seen different people talk ABOUT i Saw powell 1289 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: wrote an article saying like how some of the things 1290 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: that people randomly do just playing, man we'd have got. 1291 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Benched we would have got exiled to the, bench screamed 1292 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: and everything. Else been on the film the next, day 1293 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 1: like who do you think you? Are you disrespected the? 1294 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Game all of this different stuff like people like and 1295 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 1: it's no disrespect To i'm just saying it's a different, 1296 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: age like we would have got man, listen and some 1297 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 1: of it's celebrating. 1298 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 3: Too BUT i also think like we probably wouldn't have 1299 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 3: Survived twitter And instagram because Like colin came out like 1300 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 3: two years after And twitter was like just starting WHEN 1301 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 3: i was IN i wouldn't have wanted social and all. 1302 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 3: That and so now it's more of like. Entertainment even 1303 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 3: in high school you look at now it's. Entertainment so 1304 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 3: that's like gonna get more. Clicks so coaches can't be, like, 1305 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 3: nah don't show, emotion Because zeke says that all the 1306 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 3: time in the, studio Like jos, celebrated he was, like, 1307 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 3: oh he would have got messed up the next time 1308 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 3: down the. Court you. Know it's just That's zeko never 1309 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 3: gonna not have form And Michael i'll be in there like. 1310 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: The best stories ever, Though, man. 1311 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 3: They have the best. 1312 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: Stories how do you feel when you see some of 1313 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 1: these young girls now that's like really out, here like, 1314 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Banging LIKE i, say you know you On, instagram were 1315 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: all on social media and you see just some of 1316 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 1: the clips and you see the girls at a young. 1317 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: Age just how the game has, Expanded like not only 1318 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 1: would some of the girls being athletic and, duncan but 1319 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: just how they their games have expanded so. Far what 1320 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 1: do you feel about that where the game is going 1321 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: for females and little girls in. 1322 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 3: GENERAL i love it And i've always been a big 1323 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 3: believer and the fact, that like you have to have 1324 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 3: access and exposure and you got to see it first 1325 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 3: and training eating at an earlier, age understanding that like 1326 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 3: you can be an, athlete and it hasn't always been like. 1327 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 3: That and SO i think now we're seeing the transition 1328 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 3: of growing up and how beneficial it is to grow 1329 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 3: up seeing people like yourself on television and seeing women. 1330 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 3: ATHLETES i, MEAN i think it's just as important for 1331 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,959 Speaker 3: my niece to see it as my nephew as, well 1332 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think it changes the. NARRATIVE i, mean my 1333 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 3: trainer right, NOW i was the first female that he 1334 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 3: had Trained Trevelle. Gaines he trains, everybody like everybody in the, 1335 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 3: league trains everybody in THE, nfl and he was, like, 1336 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 3: wow like BEFORE i trained, you LIKE i didn't really you, 1337 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 3: KNOW i respect. It Now i'm, like, yeah can we 1338 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 3: can jump to Like so it's just it's about exposure 1339 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 3: And i'm excited about where the game's. 1340 01:05:55,480 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: Going so you, know we got three miles of, special like. 1341 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 3: Freaking love it, love thank, you thank you so. 1342 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Much you've got a very very gracious. Part this is 1343 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: this is very. Special hennessy hes o pe with the. 1344 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: Special you, know we're out here trying to so. 1345 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 3: Much thank. 1346 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 1: You the Players tribute Dot com