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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up?

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Speaker 2: Get Up? What is up?

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Speaker 1: Mets fans? Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 1: Up Podcast, the official podcast of the New York Mets,

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Speaker 1: Episode one twenty two, going over the Colorado Rockies four

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Speaker 1: game series that just happened this weekend. Mets had a

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Speaker 1: pretty good one, one, three, or four took care of business.

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Speaker 1: Would love to get the four game sweep, but game

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Speaker 1: four we just couldn't pull through. We'll talk about this

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Speaker 1: series as well as the big highlight of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: which was definitely Old Timers Day, which me and James

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Speaker 1: were at basically from the crack of dawn. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we were at the brunch, we're at the game, We're

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Speaker 1: at the field talking to players, chit chatting with the

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Speaker 1: old folks. It was great to be there. I was

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Speaker 1: very excited and we can't wait to tell you about

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Speaker 1: all the great stories you have from this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: So if you guys are not yet listening to us,

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Speaker 1: do appreciate you and James. Back back at our parents house,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it hasn't been a while since we've

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Speaker 1: done an episode here.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, we're busy guys these days.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: God still gotta make time for family always.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And of course we get a little different backdrops,

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Speaker 1: not the professional YouTube background or your typical white walls

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Speaker 1: out in Brooklyn, and got some stuff behind you care

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Speaker 1: to share with the viewers what we're looking at.

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Speaker 2: I got some great memory Billy in my room. I

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Speaker 2: got that guy over there with Reyis, with David Extein

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Speaker 2: sliding in scoundrel, Keith, Darryl Laducah, Laducah. And who's right there,

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Speaker 2: Oh that's Keith, that's Andy, Andy Shaves, Daryl Strawberry, Luduca,

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Speaker 2: there's Keith. Keith and Daryl were in our story apartment too,

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Speaker 2: if you remember.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Keith, Oh, I do remember those pictures.

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Speaker 2: And then I have Clyde, I have Mookie Wilson, Billy Buckner,

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Speaker 2: Mookie Wilson, Mvy people, Timer's.

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Speaker 1: Day, what a day.

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Speaker 2: Drell Reeves over here, funny story there got that jersey.

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Speaker 2: I was wearing that jersey on my back and I

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Speaker 2: saw Reevis. I had nothing from the sign at like

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Speaker 2: a Jets practice. I just went shirtless, thirteen year old

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Speaker 2: into a crowd and got and signed it.

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Speaker 1: And I thought you were gonna tell the story about

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Speaker 1: when you guys like snuck into an event or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there. That was cool though. I had a

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Speaker 2: helmet over there, no football over there that got signed

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Speaker 2: by most of the Jets. That was like a twenty

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Speaker 2: nine or ten team Jericho. I go, I'll just share

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Speaker 2: it now. Yeah, the funny one. Jericho Coatre used to

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Speaker 2: throw this like big charity event at a car dealership

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Speaker 2: on Rout twenty two. I want to say, Mercedes. Something

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Speaker 2: has to be yeah, probably, And my dad was one

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Speaker 2: day was like, hey, do you want to go to

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Speaker 2: the Jets event. I was like yeah, sure, He's like

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Speaker 2: all right, just act natural. My dad kept on like

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Speaker 2: a nice clothes from work, like his suit, and we

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Got food. I met most of the Jets team, got

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Speaker 2: tons of autographs. It was a great it was a

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Speaker 1: It had to be a great memory for thirteen fourteen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was right when those Jets were

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, especially like after this weekend, because let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Old Timers Day first, right, Let's let's go

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Speaker 1: into that, because that was definitely the highlight of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Mets really took care of business. There

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Speaker 1: Timers Day was awesome. And now that we are a

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Speaker 1: A lot of strips of bacon and just chit chat

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Speaker 1: hard hitting. They were very easy questions. The hard hitting, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were very easy. But some quick, quick interviews with

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Speaker 2: No, it was surreal, like we got to meet original Mets,

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Speaker 2: guys who played the Mets before our dads were born.

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Speaker 1: I got to interview Frank Thomas, who is ninety three

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Speaker 1: He was by far their best offensive player. It seemed

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Speaker 1: I was like, Frank, Frank, we're trying to keep the

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Speaker 1: like I almost like they couldn't believe, Like I can't

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Speaker 1: believe I get to relive my glory days once again

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like you're a member of a

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Speaker 2: guys from those nineties teams we talked about a lot

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Speaker 2: in this podcast, like an under like not as well

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Speaker 2: that you mentioned doing it at the crack of dawn.

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Speaker 2: It was it was nine am.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean for me, don Yeah, I woke

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Speaker 1: be fair, the trains in Astoria. I'm not gonna tell

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Speaker 1: it's running from a story of Boulevard to Queensboro Plaza.

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Speaker 1: I'm right in between those two for my stops, and

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Speaker 1: I just I walk there and go, oh, I now

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Speaker 2: EL train also wasn't running near where I live, so

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Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, I thought about that, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: Definitely, But then once we got there, I just like

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Speaker 2: prepared for every single one. We sat down together on

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Speaker 2: not gonna say what it was. He Oh, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: which is also really cool that Yogi Bear's granddaughter was

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Speaker 1: And then and I followed it up with your dad,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, it's all right. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also just like it's stunning for us because

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Speaker 1: Dude, when Mike Piazza walked in me and you both

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even breathe no.

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Speaker 1: He walked back three or four times just in passing,

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Speaker 1: and every single time I was like, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I'm gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: say hey, I don't think Like there were plenty of

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Speaker 1: other players that walk by and we made a comment, hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you good to see you? Mike Piazza is like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can say anything, Like what if?

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Speaker 1: What if I don't say it right? What if I'm weird?

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Speaker 1: Like I've never really had that feeling before of just

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Speaker 2: If Mike Piazza didn't exist, this podcast wouldn't exist.

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Speaker 1: Oh big time. I mean, like I think we still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was very nice of him. Who

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Speaker 1: on the roster. He's seventy nine years old. He pitched

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Speaker 1: in this game because's like, no I can throw. He

437
00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,720
Speaker 1: went on the mound, he was throwing darts. It was

438
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,760
Speaker 1: awesome to see him go out there. His Wikipedia page,

439
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,880
Speaker 1: by the way. His picture is him pitching during old

440
00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,960
Speaker 1: Timer's Day, which is sick. That's so cool for a

441
00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,200
Speaker 1: guy who had a little cup of coffee with the Mets.

442
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's early on Twitter too. He was also

443
00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 2: one of our better interviews. He was great on the mic.

444
00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,600
Speaker 2: I remember I had him and I told him the

445
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,040
Speaker 2: first I loose him up a little bit because he

446
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,960
Speaker 2: was wearing a really nice and the shoes gray blazer

447
00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,080
Speaker 2: with like Nike shoes and with the Nike yeah they

448
00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,400
Speaker 2: were sneakers.

449
00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,520
Speaker 1: They were blue and orange.

450
00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had a nice orange like shirret And

451
00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,360
Speaker 2: I was like, Dylan, I think you're the best dressed

452
00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,080
Speaker 2: guy here. And he just laughed. He spopped me on

453
00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,800
Speaker 2: the back. I have a good day and very great

454
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,600
Speaker 2: he I believe he also told this might be mixing

455
00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,159
Speaker 2: up interviews because it was such a whirlwind. I think

456
00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,480
Speaker 2: he said he pitched the first night game in Chase

457
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,280
Speaker 2: Stadium history.

458
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,000
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

459
00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,959
Speaker 2: That must have been such an electric atmosphere.

460
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,120
Speaker 1: That's so cool. I know that he was like very

461
00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,520
Speaker 1: close to being the only pitcher in Met's history that

462
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 1: got to win that Polo grounds Shay and uh he

463
00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,520
Speaker 1: or pitch I shouldn't say get a win pitch in

464
00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,520
Speaker 1: Polo Ground, Shay and City Field, that he would be

465
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,840
Speaker 1: the only guy who could say that he's done that,

466
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,320
Speaker 1: which would be pretty funny.

467
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was. It was just it was crazy.

468
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,639
Speaker 2: It was didn't even feel real. So I don't think

469
00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,520
Speaker 2: it's even said in that we were a part of

470
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Speaker 2: that whole situation.

471
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Speaker 1: No got to got to walk by Terry. He pulled

472
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,720
Speaker 1: a professional moves. He knows how to dodge the mics

473
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,120
Speaker 1: very well. Gotta say that, well well done by Terry

474
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,480
Speaker 1: prose pro. You gotta respect the move there. We were trying.

475
00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,879
Speaker 1: We wanted Terry badly. He was he was moving, he

476
00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,720
Speaker 1: was bobbing and weaving. He got respected or Champski was chat.

477
00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,760
Speaker 1: He was there from the start knocking it up to

478
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,040
Speaker 1: the end, and he was running that tables conversation.

479
00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,320
Speaker 2: He was holding court. He sat at one table during

480
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,520
Speaker 2: the brunch for all almost three hours, and people just

481
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 2: kept rotating in just to give the worry that with.

482
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 1: Art and you guys should be able to see all

483
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,440
Speaker 1: these interviews that we did with these guys at some point.

484
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't know when that's necessarily gonna come out, because

485
00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,000
Speaker 1: we don't necessarily know, but we talked to probably twenty

486
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,520
Speaker 1: plus guys briefly checking in with them, a lot of

487
00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 1: the old time Mets, a lot of the new guys

488
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 1: that were there toos. It was just overall a really

489
00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 1: awesome event and I felt like every first off the

490
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,920
Speaker 1: stay was packed as well for the game, Yeah, which

491
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,320
Speaker 1: was awesome that like they basically had to sellout to

492
00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,200
Speaker 1: watch Old Timers Day, massive ovations for everybody.

493
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,320
Speaker 2: I just get in.

494
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Speaker 1: Vibes were incredible. They did the red carpet, which looked

495
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,880
Speaker 1: really cool as well, Like this was a really well

496
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,560
Speaker 1: thought out.

497
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,479
Speaker 2: Really team picture.

498
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, the team picture, like everything I think went about

499
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 1: as well as you could ask if you were, you know,

500
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,680
Speaker 1: working for the Mets, if you were a Mets fan,

501
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,639
Speaker 1: if you were someone there. It seemed like the players

502
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,720
Speaker 1: also really did just talk about how great it was

503
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,120
Speaker 1: for the fans. I really think the players like might

504
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,919
Speaker 1: have had one of the most fun experiences of their

505
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Speaker 1: entire life. Like the guys on the field after they

506
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 1: ended the game, like waving goodbye to the fans, some

507
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 1: of the guys were like teary eyed. They like they

508
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,040
Speaker 1: got to relive their glory days, which I'm sure for

509
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: a lot of these dudes, like you know, playing in

510
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 1: the sixties. Playing in the seventies is not like playing now.

511
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: There was no social media, there was no ESPN. You

512
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 1: listened if you were local on the radio, maybe you

513
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,919
Speaker 1: caught a game on TV if it was nationally televised,

514
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 1: and that was it.

515
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,360
Speaker 2: And there wasn't as much hoopla and fanfare, especially toc

516
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 2: even with a team like today's Mets team every single day,

517
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,199
Speaker 2: every single thing that everybody does is the front of

518
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 2: the news, front of the modern news Twitter, I guess.

519
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 2: But it was just cool for these guys to have

520
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 2: their moment in the sun, didn't Yeah.

521
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 1: We shall also talk about how the Mets did a

522
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: little secret surprise during the Old Timers Day celebrations and

523
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: retired Willie Mays's twenty four up in the rafters because

524
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 1: of the original owner of the Mets, Payson, right, I

525
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 1: don't remember from Tays Joe Payson. There we go. She

526
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 1: made a promise to Willie when she brought him here

527
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: that no one else would wear the number twenty four

528
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: after him for the New York Mets. That had not

529
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 1: been fulfilled, and the Mets finally did it, which was

530
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 1: really cool because it was a straight up surprise. It's like, no,

531
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it seemed like nobody knew.

532
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 2: No props to the Mets for keeping that so quiet

533
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 2: inn house, Like that's that's the kind of thing that

534
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 2: you know, everyone has leaks, even you know, we've we've

535
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: been misubjective to the leagu's at times. But it gets cool,

536
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 2: like to actually have a modern day surprise like that,

537
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: Like who else could possibly pull something like that off

538
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 2: Beyonce did like four years ago.

539
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 1: It was all different world Beyonce. Oh my god, that

540
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: was a deep pull right there. I mean, overall, this

541
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: this Old Timers Day again was such a success. I

542
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 1: put out a tweet. I was like one awesome job too.

543
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: Every team in baseball should have an Old Timers Day.

544
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: You should be celebrating all these old players, like outside

545
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: of like maybe the Rockies, like who don't really have

546
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: much history, Like even the Diamondbacks and Marlins could do

547
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: it because they've won some World Series. But like, I

548
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 1: don't think there's really a team out there that probably

549
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: couldn't get away with having an Old Timers.

550
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: Day, and any team done it besides the Mets and Yankees.

551
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals have done in the past. I

552
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: think teams have done it in the past. But I

553
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be as like yearly as

554
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: the Mets maybe will be.

555
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think this will be yearly. I

556
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 2: can't imagine there being another one of these for a

557
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: little while.

558
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, because like why not, right,

559
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's a little bit different, Maybe it's not

560
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: necessarily like as a special yeah yeah, but I feel

561
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: like it was such a success and people probably like

562
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: there's so many people that probably want to go to

563
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: the next one, right, So you gotta imagine it's gonna

564
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: be a hot ticket next year if they do it again,

565
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: Like why not?

566
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: Big props is Steve Cohen for putting this on a

567
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: lot of owners don't want to do this because there's

568
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: definitely a hefty price tag that goes along with its.

569
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Speaker 2: Definitely just so grateful that Steve got this together, got

570
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 2: all these guys in one place for just one single weekend.

571
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine, like how great the conversations probably

572
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: were for these guys like Mike Siata talking Lee Massilli,

573
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: like Tim Tuffll, Wally Bachman, like Pedro Martinez, Jacob Grand

574
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: Max Scherzer, like. It was just crazy to watch the

575
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 2: old guys and the new guys, the old guys and

576
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 2: the old guys, everyone interact together on the field. It

577
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: was It was beautiful.

578
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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of baseball, you had to be

579
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Speaker 1: a fan of old time. Ten out of ten. I

580
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: would rat it eleven out of ten. It was awesome.

581
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: Fourteen out of ten.

582
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: Fourteen out of ten. Now to talk about the real

583
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: baseball it did happen on the field this weekend. Let's

584
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: talk about that Rocky series start off in Game one

585
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: with the gram day, the boys were there. I listened

586
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: to Simple Man in the Shower as I do for

587
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: every Jacob de Gram start because it's just it's electric City.

588
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean that song. I know lenderd Skinner is one

589
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: of the great bands, but that song Jake de Gram's

590
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: made it like one hundred times cooler, even though it

591
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: was already really cool.

592
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: It hits very differently. And also this was a moment

593
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: where at least I felt this way. In the first inning,

594
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: it was almost like we were like at church or something. Yes,

595
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 2: like when Jacob Gram was pitching, the place was silent

596
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: until someone swung and missed yes, and then everybody cheered.

597
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 2: Then you stopped and you waited, you let Jacob Gram

598
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: do we had to do, and then you cheered again.

599
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: And we had that like very eerie vibe in the

600
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: stadium too, because he was perfect through four innings and

601
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: it was a moment where like it was only like

602
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 2: fifty pitches, We're like, oh many, it was possible at least.

603
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were gonna thought you were gonna

604
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: chime in. I thought you had more to say there. No, Yeah,

605
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: the vibes, the vibes at the stadium were really good.

606
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: And I love now that it seems to be a

607
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: tradition when Jacob de Gram gets on the mount to

608
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: warm up in the first setting, everybody's up on their

609
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: feet as soon as that first pitch comes in. There's

610
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: like a roar as well, which I love to see.

611
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was also funny exists like the second

612
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: time in the last like three or four starts for

613
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: de Gram where his command like wasn't perfect right away,

614
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: he got to three ball count the first bat of

615
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: the game, which he's definitely done a few times this year,

616
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: and then it was just see you later.

617
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: Smooth sailing. I mean, he was just cruising from the beginning.

618
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: Ended up having a great line there of six hittings,

619
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: nine k's, three hits, one walk, one er and run,

620
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: which was that absolute moonshot by Ryan McMahon. Just a

621
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: good ball player. We've mentioned him a lot. We admire

622
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: Ryan McMahon's game.

623
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Speaker 2: Anybody who hits the ball four ins be forty feet

624
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: off Jake Degram, you are a pros pro in my book.

625
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: And he did that and only eighty seven pitches for

626
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: the groam, five hard hit balls, seventeen whiffs on forty

627
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: five swings. Something though that was cool. And then noticed

628
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: after the game when I was going back and parsing

629
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: through the stats, was that he threw more sliders and

630
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: fastballs forty four slides verse thirty nine fastballs. Second consecutive

631
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: start where that has happened, and I think that even

632
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: this year, when you go back to the previous starts,

633
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: this is the closest those two pitches have ever been

634
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: in usage for de Gram going back his entire career

635
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen or twenty twenty twenty, they were pretty close,

636
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: but last year he widened them out again. So I

637
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: think that's something to keep an eye on because he's

638
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: now shown enough pitches where like the location trends are

639
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: starting to really like bubble up, and you're just seeing

640
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: that his the command of his slide there is on

641
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: such a different level then not only what he's ever

642
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: done before, but probably any pitcher that did the game

643
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: now that we've ever seen. Like if you go in

644
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: Baseball Savona or Fangrafts get a heat map going, it's

645
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: like a pinhole where he's putting his sliders and it's

646
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: the glove side bottom corner and just you can't can't

647
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: do anything about that if you're hit, especially when you

648
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: throw in the fastball. The fastball has been great as

649
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: well as command's incredible overallways, walking listen, two percent of

650
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: batters he's faced crazy, but like a couple of fastballs

651
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: more so than last year, specifically have blood over the

652
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: middle of the plate. And if you think about all

653
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: of the big hits he's given up, that Dansby was

654
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: high middle, this mcmahonon was high middle, Like that's just

655
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: where they're getting he's getting be getting beat proverbially, like

656
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: the five runs he's given up in all the innings

657
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: he's pitched, So I think that's something cool to keep

658
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: an eye on. Because also there were only four total

659
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: change ups and curveballs in the start after there more

660
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: of those last time, So it seems like de Grom

661
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: is just going to throw this slider as much as

662
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: humanly possible because it's probably the greatest pitch on planet

663
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: of their right now.

664
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty unbelievable, super excited that he's back and

665
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: pitching as he is for the Mets. It's it really

666
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: is a treat. Like there's not many times where I

667
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: feel like I say that about baseball player, but watching

668
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom pitchpecially, it's a treat.

669
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 2: It's like that you should everyone should try to go

670
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: to as many of these as they possibly can this year.

671
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: Who the Mets are playing do no matter what day

672
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: of the week it is, but every single start it's special.

673
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to be in the stadium. It was

674
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: also cool because we met up with a longtime listener

675
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: of the podcast as well, musician Ron Pope, which was awesome.

676
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: We had like a chat for like three innings are

677
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: really good guy. Would love to maybe get him on

678
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: the podcast at some point in the offseason because the

679
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: dude's got stories for days. And he's a lifelong baseball fan,

680
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: lifelong Mets fan, like college baseball, Like really really interesting

681
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: guy overall, and he can talk. He knows how to

682
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: do it well.

683
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Also, Central Jersey dude grew up like only about

684
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: ten miles where from away from where we did. He

685
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: lived in Brooklyn for a while, living out of Nashville. Now, yeah,

686
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean it depends what you ask.

687
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: Central Jersey doesn't exist.

688
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had wonderful time talking. We literally took up

689
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: his entire game. He was like only in town for

690
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: I think the weekend and was like at the game

691
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: with his dad and brother and he's like, I'm gonna

692
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: go hang out my favorite podcast.

693
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: We do it.

694
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: We're grateful. I was texting Ron yesterday.

695
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Ron, Ron was awesome. Shout to you, Ron,

696
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: we know you're listening. Appreciate you hanging out with us.

697
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Hope to see you at a game soon, maybe in

698
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, come back to me Orka, we

699
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: can hang out.

700
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and then otherwise from this game, Lugo had like

701
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: just kind of keep ticking up. Another one of very

702
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 2: good innings, one of the best of the year. Curveball

703
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: with sharp slyther, using it on both sides of the plate, fast,

704
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: bucking up over ninety seven miles an hour. Big. That's

705
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: for as much as people are upset about this ballpen,

706
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: seeing Seth Lugo be able to get guys out all

707
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: over the field is really, really, really encouraging. Other side

708
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: of that, this was a frustrating game on offense, a

709
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: frustrating series on offense because the Rockies pitching is not great,

710
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: not great. And Ryan Feltner in this game, who was

711
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: probably a bottom ten percent pitcher in the entire league

712
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: right now, he had like three walks and two strikeouts

713
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: and we just couldn't do anything. Pete hit'll a big

714
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: home run early and that was crush it. But that

715
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: was also the entire offense.

716
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I one, I couldn't believe Ryan Feldner

717
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a lefty. I thought I thought Ryan Feldner was

718
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: a lefty. That to me was the most start Yeah,

719
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: a lefty named Ryan Feltner. Like I was startled when

720
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, there's a right handed pitcher on

721
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: the mount. Who is this guy? I didn't think it

722
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: was him.

723
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: The only thing to pull out of this game was

724
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: that the Rockies wearing their purple unis, which is pretty cool.

725
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: I think they're one of the cooler ones in baseball.

726
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: John John said that down here, so I'm gonna believe

727
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: that he was they're wearing them in this game because

728
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: I was just I was just so fixating the ground

729
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: I was paying attention with the Lockies were wearing.

730
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: I really don't remember at all what they were wearing.

731
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: It was so I just remember that Randall Gritchik had

732
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: his pants rolled up so high they were above his knees.

733
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: He does that, and the guy that was sitting next

734
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: to me and my parents at the game was heckling him,

735
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: but at such a low volume that I'm like, who

736
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: is this for?

737
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't know why John wrote that all the Rockies

738
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: were not wearing purple uniforms.

739
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: It okay that, you know. I didn't want to call

740
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: out John necessarily, but I was like, I don't think

741
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: they were wearing the purple because I do agree with him.

742
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: The purple jerseys are really solid. They should wear them

743
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: more often because their other jerseys are absolutely horrible, bottom

744
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: five jerseys in the league.

745
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we also did see a couple of cool, cool

746
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: Rockies fans wearing the City Connect jerseys, which those are.

747
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: I've said out loud that I don't like the full

748
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: kit when they wear those with green pants, but just

749
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: as a jersey to wear, like as a fit like

750
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: the jeans or something khaki shorts like that was a

751
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: cool look a jersey. That's a cool too.

752
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well, I think that's how you have

753
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: to raise jerseys too. Like I no, because as a consumer,

754
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: as a fan, you're not You're not throwing on the

755
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: green baseball fants and rocket it as.

756
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: A full kit like, but that's how they're wearing on

757
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: the fields. That's how I'm gonna judge it. If you're

758
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 2: asking the judge uniforms.

759
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: Fashions, I mean, you're the king of ranking uniform Yeah, exactly,

760
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: that's what you got to listen to me. Don't don't

761
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: worry about the pants, so just worry about the top

762
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: and if it I feel like the pants adds points,

763
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't normally take away from me. Although the Dodgers,

764
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: the Dodgers all blue pants are just that's like one

765
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: of the worst years I've ever seen.

766
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: We just do a jersey ranking in the off season

767
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Hunter Draftneckmark special.

768
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, I could talk about jerseys for a full

769
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: hour and not miss a beat. I won't, I won't

770
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: take a breath. That's like one of my favorite things

771
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: about baseball is the jerseys.

772
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh Man moved on to game too here because this

773
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: one was a little bit, a little bit more action

774
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: than the game one, I would say got people a

775
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: little bit upset online. Fun at first, though, very fun

776
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: game at first. Verry Brett baty his second career home run.

777
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Super similar, yeah, very similar instance of the first career

778
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: home run where it was I don't remember if it was

779
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: a breaking ball or not, but I know the ball

780
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: was at a little bit on the other half and just

781
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: grabbed it with a bad head and flung it out

782
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: over a right center fence. Crushed the ball. Really like

783
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: that Brett hit that because it just seems like he'd

784
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: been he'd been tight.

785
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I think we said pressing the last time, and

786
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: we both agreed that he.

787
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: Wasn't not pressing.

788
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: He said he wasn't pressing, But it was the feel

789
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: of that, like I want to do a little bit more,

790
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: but I'm not like down on myself. It's just like

791
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: a man, it's major league baseball. It's hard it's not easy.

792
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: And you can definitely see that the way the team

793
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: was interacting with him that that was the case, because

794
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: like everyone was like jumping on him. I think someone

795
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: threw some flower seed down when he got the dug out,

796
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: and like it wasn't pressing because when I think about pressing,

797
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: I think about the guy who's like expanding the zone

798
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: or playing side of himself, and Brett has not done that.

799
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Brett's whiffing at league average. Brett is chasing at league average.

800
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: Like he's doing everything that we thought would translate, and

801
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: it has translated.

802
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: It.

803
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: It's just like the other stuff. It's just like putting

804
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: it all together and actually, you know, really cranking the ball.

805
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: And very good to see him chill out a little

806
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: bit and see everyone like kind of act like he

807
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: belonged there.

808
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: Yep. Marte had another good game, got that big triple

809
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: for us which extended our lead, and as we know,

810
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: this game went on, every single run was very very

811
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: valuable for us. So it was nice to see Marte

812
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: swing the bat well, which he's done all year long,

813
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: again and again and again for the Mets.

814
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as we've said before, especially last time we

815
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: played the Rockies. This middle of the order is a

816
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: good one. It's like, it's not something to it's not

817
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: something to sneeze at.

818
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not bad. Like the team record is worse

819
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: than what their middle of their order is. I think

820
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: that's the best round put.

821
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: The middle of their order is the strength of their team. Yes,

822
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: it's not to be it's it's not it's not to

823
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: be trifled with, but it's not something to laugh at.

824
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

825
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: Like and that that sentence feels dumb, But I feel

826
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: like people also understand what we mean when we say.

827
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: Yes for sure, like the middle of the order has

828
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: real baseball players in it.

829
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: C J.

830
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: Crones a professional hitter.

831
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: Yes, Branda Richard professional hitter. Yeah, Brandon Rodgers having a

832
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: very good season. There's some McMahons. We're just said. Fantastic

833
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: BASBA player the before take the ground, Joy Blackman still

834
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: plays well. Jose Glaciers exists. Yeah, Yeah, that's like I

835
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: say about hy Man Bassett. This was a grinder start

836
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: for Bassett. He wasn't completely the sharpest, but he still

837
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: did that Chris Bassett thing where he just digs deep

838
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: and does every single thing he can to help you win.

839
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: He got to the eighth inning of this game with

840
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: just one walk and one strikeout, which is shocking. Giving

841
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: up eight hits for three of them on a little

842
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Rocky's middle of the or the rally we'll talk about

843
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: a second. And he got through that lineup just by

844
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: getting copious amounts of ground balls. He really leaned on

845
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: the sinker. Seemed like the color was a little bit off.

846
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: The slider and the curve ball. He had him a

847
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: little bit, but not totally, and it was just sinker, sinker, sinker,

848
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: ground ball, ground ball, ground balls. Rocket said, the ball

849
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: heart a lot, but mostly was on the ground, so

850
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: we didn't really get hurt that often. Just that third

851
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: time around the order against Rogers, Crone, McMahon, Gritchick. They

852
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: all found ways to do something and just seemed like

853
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: in that inning particularly, he lost a little bit of command.

854
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: He got it back to the seventh, had to go

855
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: shut that inning, but like he threw five sinkers that inning,

856
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: and three were in the heart of the zone and

857
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: one was like basically on the heart of the zone,

858
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: and all of them were put in play, most of

859
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: them hard. That'll happen. It's just it was really nice

860
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: to see him though that he just dug deep, got deep,

861
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: dug deep, dug deep, didn't have your great stuff got

862
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: your team into the eighth inning.

863
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Now, of course, like we said, this

864
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: game went a little bit back and forth after an

865
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: early lead. But luckily for us, Mark Kanna exists in

866
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: this game because in what was it in the sixth inning,

867
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: I guess right bottom of the Mark Canna got that

868
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: big double to take the lead back basket followed it

869
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: up with that shut down inning, which is so valuable. Well,

870
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's so valuable for a team having not

871
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: shut down inning, like after you get runs on the board.

872
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: I feel like if you can shut a team down

873
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: most of the time, that's like that's a sole crushing blow.

874
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: At least feel momentum for a moment. Yes, you steal

875
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: it for a moment. That being said, though, the eighth

876
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: inning came around and Michael Gibbons former Rocky right back up.

877
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah it hands up on me, guys is, Michael Gibbs

878
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: has been pretty bad as and met so far. He's

879
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: definitely not this bad though, and he was quite good

880
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: in the whole first half with the Cubs.

881
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: We like his stuff, We like his stuff. All the

882
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: stuff that we said at the beginning we stand by.

883
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: But like, I think I understand the frustrations that people

884
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: are feeling. Like I can't be mad at them for

885
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: being frustrated because the performance hasn't been up to snuff

886
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: just yet.

887
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: For sure, I'm not mad at people for being frustrated.

888
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: I am mad when people like use a guy who's

889
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: pitched like ten innings with the Mets as escapegoat for

890
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: other things, which that's not really true. And also we

891
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: mentioned this talking about Frankie Montoss either the last episode

892
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: two episodes ago. Around the Yankee series, where when guys

893
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: are changing teams mid season, pitchers especially, a lot of

894
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: things are thrown at them because usually when a team

895
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 2: acquires a pitcher, they have some kind of new plan

896
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: or idea for development with them. We see this with

897
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo has worked in the positive way, though the

898
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: Mariners have totally reworks his repertoire. He's not throwing forcing

899
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 2: fast pa anymore. He's thrown basically all sinkers and he's

900
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: just he's been unhittable since that trade. Frankie Mantas, he's

901
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: been throwing more forcing fastballs with the Yankees. We see

902
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: him take a few starts to get the hang of it.

903
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: Here the Mets, I feel like have done something with

904
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: Michael gibven SLYTHERER because it has a little bit more

905
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: movement right now, a little bit less velocity, and he

906
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: seems to not exactly have the command of it just

907
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: quite yet. This stars specifically, he threw basically this appearance,

908
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: blowing this game against the Rockies through basically eighty percent fastballs.

909
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 2: He couldn't really get that many slides over the plate,

910
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: so he's going fastball, fastball, fastball. Well, that fastball does

911
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: have a lot of life. You can kind of see

912
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: what that weird arm angle kind of jumps up. He

913
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: get a couple of nice whiffs on it, but similar

914
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: to the gram home run on McMahon, he just kind

915
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: of left one high middle and List has got the

916
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: bad head on it and you had a base cleaning double,

917
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: which was awful at the time, really soul crushing.

918
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were doing our notes for Old Timer's Day

919
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: at this point and it was like, I don't know,

920
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: and then like on Twitter, going back and forth with

921
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: some people who were again ready to call the season over.

922
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: It was the first time I believe either of us

923
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: really got baited into taking on what people were telling

924
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: us on Twitter. I had I hadn't had a really

925
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: good interaction on Twitter like that in a while.

926
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I had one since like May, since.

927
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: Joining the podcast, really gone on anybody, But it was

928
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: just like there's frustration and then there's stupidity. I think

929
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: you're okay to be frustrated, but then like the classic

930
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: like where this team was blowing it the bullpen and

931
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: this and that, what was what were you telling me

932
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: about the bullpen during that day if you want to

933
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: share it with the audience? Was specifically just it was

934
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 1: like the first time that they've really blown a game,

935
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: Like I mean, if you look back at like where

936
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: the Mets results in the second half, I think we

937
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: were doing it manually.

938
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: The bullpen pictures had I think only four losses. Yeah,

939
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: and like of course they blown other games because like

940
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: did Joelle went earlier this week? Yeah, but that was

941
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: there was other midigame circumstances and the otherwise there we

942
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: had relief losses from the Gostick after that first ground

943
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: game in Washington and r j Alvarez because he was

944
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: playing mop up to the Atlanta. Yeah, so this idea,

945
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: this notion the bullpen has been blowing all these games

946
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: is a little bit Misconceived's misconstrued by at the least. Also,

947
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a forgetfulness of Mets fans that

948
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: we have the second best record in baseball.

949
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: For sure and have like.

950
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: Winning games of basically a sixty percent clips since the

951
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: All Star Break.

952
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like this was all put put pressure onto

953
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: because the Braves were really taking care of business against

954
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals tonight. On that night as well, Jaco de

955
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: Reze just had a no hit it that got broken

956
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: up by a large new Bar solo home runing nothing Cardinals,

957
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: Let's go new But it's just again I get frustrated

958
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: with people, like I can't. I'm not blaming people, like

959
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: it's just this is how fan like, it's just we're fans.

960
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: But it's just like the recency biases what murders me.

961
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Because the Mets bullpen this year it's not great. It's

962
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: not one of the best bullpens the league, no way.

963
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: It's definitely not in the first tiear. But it's not

964
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: it hasn't been like this horrible Achilles heel. We've seen

965
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: some way worse Mets bullpens, Like, actually, remember Antonio Bistar though,

966
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: don't don't break his name up. It Like I'm starting

967
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: to get angry just thinking about it.

968
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: But it's just like this, I don't know, Like I'm

969
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: not gonna tell everyone. A lot of people put the

970
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: bullpen's like this massive strength right now. But it's not

971
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: killing the team. You wouldn't have the second best reckon

972
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: in baseball if your bullpen was killing team. It's just

973
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: relatively the weakest part of this team because the Mets

974
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: have a really good team. Yeah, like my proxy, yes,

975
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: and what the hell you're gonna do?

976
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: Man?

977
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: Whatever, Thank god, thank god, thank god. Everyone knows my

978
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: favorite player, Mark Hanna, because he stepped up to the

979
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: plate in the bottom of the eighth inning after the

980
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: chaos and the hoopla saved everybody's ass. This is the

981
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: quickest time and Mets season ended and restarted this year,

982
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: and we've had those happen within like a day or

983
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: two cycles. Yeah, this was about twenty five minutes of

984
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: the Mets season concluding and then being reborn. Because Markanda

985
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: had a two RBI double to tie the game in

986
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: the eighth inning here against the Rockies bullpen that is

987
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: not very good. And we knew that this game was

988
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: not over and Markanna prove it, and it kind of

989
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: tied back into this incredible stretch that Mark Canna's been

990
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: on since August fifteenth, where he's basically hitting four hundred

991
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: three eighty nine batting average four to sixty three slug

992
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 2: eight sixty eight sixty one.

993
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: I guess that's nope, Oh no, that's probably his slug

994
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: is the ages one.

995
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: Three eighty nine average, four to sixty three on base

996
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: percentage eight sixty one slug. That's crazy. Three homers, eleven

997
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: RBIs that since August fifteenth, fourteen out of thirty six

998
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: eleven extra base hits in that span are tied with

999
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: Alex Bregman for the most in baseball, one more than

1000
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 2: Mookie Bets.

1001
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good.

1002
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: Less than two weeks of Mark Canada and Will Samon

1003
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: of The Athletic Friend of the Program had a very

1004
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: cool article that came out this weekend about Mark Cana, which.

1005
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you you told me about this, because I like

1006
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: the athletic I just I don't do a lot of reading.

1007
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: If you made it, if you put that in video form,

1008
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm all over it. But as soon as I got

1009
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: to read, I'm not in school anymore. What do I

1010
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: need to read for?

1011
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's a that's a childish take. But I

1012
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: want to read an exerp pro because if Metsta podcast fans,

1013
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: real real lifers with us listen closely, you'll hear about

1014
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: why this quote in deearless to Mark Hanna even more

1015
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: than I never had before.

1016
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: He just became your favorite player because of this.

1017
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: Ever, every time I faced Brad Hand the past has

1018
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: been a struggle for me, Canna said, And I realized

1019
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 2: is because of his motion. He has a strange pause

1020
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: in his delivery, has kind of a weird arm mangle.

1021
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: I got trouble picking up his pitch. Cana's mind stirred

1022
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: on ideas to fix the problem. The next day, Canada,

1023
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: a right handed bather, saw something similar from Brave's lefty

1024
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: Danny Young, another odd delay, weird delivery form, special arm mangle,

1025
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: and Kenna's first I bat against Young, hit the weak

1026
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: round ball that braves their basement, also rally for an

1027
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: easy out. Cana would have one more chance against Young,

1028
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: another opportunity put into practice, and the idea he had

1029
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: pondering because of his struggles against brad Hand. Okay, canad

1030
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: then said to himself, it's how to make the adjustments

1031
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: that's going to work. Is that the bitch? I think

1032
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: I might read the wrong quote.

1033
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta get this one.

1034
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: I read the wrong quote. We gotta reset thirty seconds here,

1035
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: all right, I'll be you gotta go back to the start.

1036
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: When he's reading this.

1037
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: James, I found you you were reading it.

1038
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not what in the notes. I

1039
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: know it was the wrong quote.

1040
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 2: No, but it was. It was it was a period

1041
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: before the notes. That's why I wanted to reset it.

1042
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: Let me look at it again.

1043
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: And you were making fun of me for reading well.

1044
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm reading it. Well, I'm just reading the wrong part.

1045
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, comprehension is part of it.

1046
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 2: It's funny.

1047
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Let me make sure I got this right before it

1048
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: started again. Yeah, if this flows, well, you can keep

1049
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: some of this in.

1050
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. We'll talking about the game from Canada

1051
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: from a couple of weeks ago here against the Phillies.

1052
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: Canna had two hits. The way he saw it, he

1053
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: was getting there, that is until hand brad Hand. As

1054
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: you guys know, one of our favorite pictures. Brad Foot,

1055
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: as we call him, took the mound. Leading up to

1056
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: that day, Cana was hitless in three career bats against Hand,

1057
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: with two strikeouts. On August fourteenth, Ken's last that bat

1058
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: of the game, Hand struck him out. Looking at that moment,

1059
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Canna was frustrated. He said, he thought to himself, how

1060
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: can I be feeling this? Goes swing the bat, but

1061
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: once Brad Hand comes in all of a sudden and

1062
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: I can't pick up the ball.

1063
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: It's awesome, that's so sick, so sick. As part of

1064
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: the Bradhan Truthers club over here, it's great that Mark

1065
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: Kenna also shares the same sentiment that means we're right.

1066
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: Can is one of the most cerebral guys that looks

1067
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: like in baseball.

1068
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and from that moment on, Kennon realized that these

1069
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: kind of lefties, these weird, quirky lefties, were struggled for

1070
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: him to pick up the ball. So what he did

1071
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: later on he spread his legs out slightly more than usual,

1072
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: with the objective to see the ball better. By doing this,

1073
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: still reading from the athletic, he thought he had a

1074
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: better chance to keep his head still he would have

1075
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: cut down his leg kick. The idea was to get

1076
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: more balanced, distribute his weight better between his feet, and

1077
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: not move his head as much. And once that happened

1078
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: August fifteenth, you guys heard the stats I just read.

1079
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: Markan has been absolute world to beither and we are

1080
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: very thankful for it.

1081
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: Yes, made the game nice and close for us. And

1082
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: then it was followed up by the Pee Alonzo walk

1083
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: off in the ninth Mets win, Mets win, Mets win,

1084
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: which was my tweet, and the season.

1085
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: Was saved according to some Mets fans again again, and

1086
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: now we can run through these last few games, because

1087
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: we already talk so much about all the Timer's day,

1088
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: the game almost seemed like secondary. It really did what

1089
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 2: happened all day, and just the big store with David

1090
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: Peterson coming back into the mound in front of a

1091
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: rock and City field and just simply dominating his hometown

1092
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: of Colorado Rockies.

1093
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Who'd he pitch this game against? Because it was Freeland.

1094
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: It was Freeland, Okay, apparently like they're they're boys. Because

1095
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: Peterson lives in Colorado. I think he's a Colorado kid.

1096
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: I think that's like where it's from. Literally just said that, Oh,

1097
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: oh my bad, I missed that. Whatever, But yeah, he's

1098
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: friends with Freeland, so apparently I was.

1099
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: I think it's also a Colorado kid.

1100
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: Yes he is. So that was a cool thing for

1101
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: them to pitch against each other. It was even cooler

1102
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: that David Peterson got the win for the Mets because

1103
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: he's just he's really become a really nice pitcher for

1104
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: this team.

1105
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: This Peterson, This Peterson should start staying in the rotation forever,

1106
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: because this David Peterson went six in and seven strikeouts

1107
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: and no walks, only giving him four. He said, no

1108
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: walks is massive because walks up into one thing that's

1109
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: played Peterson all year, because his stuff is great. The

1110
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: fastball has life, the slider is nasty as hell, and

1111
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: the changeup has now come along to be wonderful. Why

1112
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: he come along, not exact come along, because that was

1113
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: his calling card. He went back to it, he went

1114
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: away from it. Now he's come back to a little

1115
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: bit having all three of those pitches working. The Rockies

1116
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: were powerless against him fifteen withs a Mets slider. The

1117
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: villa was up again second time. And I think a

1118
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: week we're saying that about Peterson doing all of that

1119
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: without walking a single bat. The of course, this is

1120
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: a rocky. We just talk about how good the mill

1121
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: of the order is, how fine the middle of the

1122
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: order is not really great, but it's not like the

1123
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: worst line up in baseball. Seeing him just completely dice

1124
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: them up was ridiculously amazing for this team.

1125
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: It's so valuable to have a guy like Peterson who

1126
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: could be a part of this rotation, or if you

1127
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: don't want to have him in the rotation, out of

1128
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: the bullpen, like he's just really become a really really

1129
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: good pitcher. Like everyone was excited in twenty twenty in

1130
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: his rookie year seeing what he did for the Mets.

1131
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, here he comes. But this is

1132
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: not the same David Peterson. It's the same type of

1133
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: idea of like, oh look at this young starter that

1134
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: the Mets have, but this version is legit and he's

1135
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: going to stay around for quite some time.

1136
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: And we have a couple of stats here to really

1137
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: exemplify this percheon. Peterson's a two point four to two

1138
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: ERA in his last nine starts, only five home runs

1139
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: given up in that span, had not allowed the home

1140
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: run four straight starts. This was the fourth star of

1141
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: his career with at least six innings pitched and no walks,

1142
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: third this season, first start of his entire career on Saturday.

1143
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: Six innings, no runs and no walks.

1144
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's awesome. He's been really really good. I feel

1145
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: like there's no other way to say it. And then

1146
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: on the offensive side, Brandon Neimo had a great game

1147
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: leadoff homer, a double drove in two runs. Mets didn't

1148
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: really do much offensively in this game, but Nimo and

1149
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: Marte pretty much got did everything that we needed in

1150
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: this game.

1151
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: And very cool to have a leadoff home run in

1152
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: front of this crowd. Everybody was there, everybody was key in,

1153
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: everyone was there early. Nimo doing that to start really

1154
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: I feel like set the team on this kind of

1155
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: like good vibes, like streak the whole game.

1156
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: You know.

1157
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: It was also cool we have our promo that goes

1158
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: up on the video board before the games, and normally

1159
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: people are filing in this and that, but everyone was

1160
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: already in their seats. We gained like twenty five followers

1161
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: on Twitter immediately when that happened, which was cool because

1162
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: really cool. Normally people are you know, lollygagging around enjoying

1163
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: the sights and sounds, but they were there, so we

1164
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: gained a lot of followers, so that was nice for

1165
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: us as well.

1166
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: That is very cool. Also a couple more stats from

1167
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: John Saturday was the most sixth career game with multiple

1168
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: extra race hits off left handed pitcher Love That that's

1169
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: just can't tell Mets fans right there, how much growth

1170
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: we've seen from Brandon Nemo over this year. Especially Saturday

1171
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: gave nimmost six career Lee Love home runs. Three have

1172
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: been against the Rockies.

1173
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: That is unbelievable stats. That's funny.

1174
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: And Nemo tied our proverbial Oldzhimer's day MVP Mookie Wilson

1175
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: for the six mostly Love home runs in Mets history

1176
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: with MOOKI in the ballpark, which is a cool moment.

1177
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: Do you think Mookie knew that?

1178
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: No?

1179
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has something we actually talked about, like with

1180
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: a lot of these interviews we were doing, like do

1181
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: you think a lot of these metal timers are aware

1182
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: of their obscure records?

1183
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: I think no, I don't think so. I I think

1184
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: it's hard. You have to be a stack guy, and

1185
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: I just imagine that being a stack guy in nineteen

1186
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: eighty six is different than being a stack guy in

1187
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So I'm sure they know. I'm sure

1188
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: they know their stats. I'm sure they know a lot

1189
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: of their accolades. But Mookie Wilson having the most lead

1190
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: off home runs in Met's history none May sixth most?

1191
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, absolutely not.

1192
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying like, I don't remember which one we

1193
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: were talking about. We were talking about someone who did

1194
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: something bizarre, someone who had like the most go ahead

1195
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: hits or walk off hits or something from the notes

1196
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: we were putting together.

1197
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there was a weird one. I don't remember that.

1198
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but just forty four game weekend is yeah.

1199
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: With old Timer's Day, Oh my god, a lot of

1200
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: information being taken in.

1201
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: I was at the Meadowlands this morning in nine am too.

1202
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: It's been intense.

1203
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: I was back home celebrate my mom's birthday. Happy birthday Mom,

1204
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: with the family on the Greek side. It was a

1205
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: great day.

1206
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: He's a funny little tip. But I came home, and

1207
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 2: usually when I come home grew up Battalian Talian family,

1208
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm always really excited to come home to like great

1209
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: leftovers in the fridge, funky snacks in the pantry. Your

1210
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: parents are big Trader Joe's people completely forgot that my

1211
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: parents should rip apart the kitchen last week. So I

1212
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: walked in. There's no cabinets, there's no fridge, there's no sink.

1213
00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: What did you do?

1214
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: Were grilled? We grill everything tomorrow more, we're gonna make

1215
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: eggs on the grill for breakfast. We're washing the dishes,

1216
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: washing dishes in the bathroom and with the whole on

1217
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: the front lawn.

1218
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: You can grill eggs.

1219
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: You you bring a pan, you put it on the grill. Wait,

1220
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: it was like shell on, Like you grill the shell

1221
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: of the eggs. What are you talking about in the

1222
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 2: harbowmegg on the grill?

1223
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be horrible. It had to taste terrible,

1224
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: an up and roasted egg. Man. We're losing that here,

1225
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: we're losing. It's been a long weekend to turn the

1226
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: ac off.

1227
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: It's hot.

1228
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice and cool in my parents' basement. It's

1229
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: like twenty degrees colder than it is in the entire house.

1230
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm up in my rooms like guys might hear crickets,

1231
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: which is also kind of funny. Also, Saturday was cool

1232
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: because it clinched a winning season for the Mets. Buck

1233
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: becomes the first Matager since Willie Randolf, who was also

1234
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: on hand YEP, to have a winning season in his

1235
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: first season with the team. Talk about Sunday briefly because

1236
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: there were seconds one of the more annoying Mets games

1237
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: of the year. We got shut out by her mom

1238
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: Marquez because he owns us. Yeah, of course we did.

1239
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: He's just something happens, especially when he comes to City Field.

1240
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: Herman Marquez goes, oh, I'm Jacob crowmin the best picture

1241
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: on the planet.

1242
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: That's his fourth winn against the Mess his career, including

1243
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: two complete games, He's got forty one strikeouts in forty

1244
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: four innings three two seven ERA, Like, you gotta be

1245
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: kidding me.

1246
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: I think one of those complete games, to be fair,

1247
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: was a seven ing doubleheader game.

1248
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: I think you're actually right about that. I feel like

1249
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: I justly completely the game.

1250
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: Yes, sureser was good, though, I mean like they lost

1251
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: one nothing.

1252
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: Sure, it was still cash, sure, just better starts with

1253
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: the team. Like the only reason the Rockets even got

1254
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: one run was because a bunch of nickel and dime hits.

1255
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Like it sucked.

1256
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, baseball. That's baseball. It happened sometimes, that is baseball.

1257
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: Yep. But of course this one bad, really bad offensive game.

1258
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: Also not I it wasn't a great offensive weekend. The

1259
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 2: Met's only scored more than three runs once in four games. Yeah,

1260
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: pretty great that they got to win three of them.

1261
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: But people were like very mad online the Mets got

1262
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: shut out, like people were like embarrassed, even though again,

1263
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: the Mets have the second best record in baseball.

1264
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell people that.

1265
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't say that at all. And hilariously, the

1266
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: Mets have the fourth most runs in base over the

1267
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: last thirty days.

1268
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely don't tell anybody that.

1269
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, people were very mad about the offense fourth most

1270
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: runs in baseball lest thirty days.

1271
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: I saw funny four from somebody replying to another person.

1272
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: I believe it was Meek Phil shout out to meek

1273
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: Phil Legend on Twitter. He was replying to someone who

1274
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: was like, the Mets offense is averaging two point eight

1275
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: runs per game in the month of August. He's like,

1276
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: it's time and true.

1277
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not true. I think it was like four

1278
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: point six.

1279
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: People are just throwing out fake stats to fit their agenda.

1280
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Which again is sometimes anytime Mets, which doesn't make sense

1281
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: for a.

1282
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: Met fan dance bea sit through run, home run and

1283
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: take the lead.

1284
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: That's crushing. That is just I almost wish you didn't

1285
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: tell me. I wish there was a world where that

1286
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: didn't happen. I hate the Braves so much I.

1287
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: Gotta break news to the listeners.

1288
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: Of course I hate the Braves.

1289
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: Of course it was off Ryan Helsley too, and of

1290
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: course it was Ryan only got charged to of the runs.

1291
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: So he's not gonna get a lost against me in fantasy.

1292
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: All right, that's good for me. I have Wayne right

1293
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: in fantasy that damn shall we bring in John here?

1294
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Because uh, as you guys know, with the estimate, it

1295
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: was about old timers and your boy in the new system.

1296
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: Not only one, but hit the nail on the head,

1297
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: baiting ding. I said nine runs total in the game,

1298
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: and it was eight to one. I mean, I couldn't

1299
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: have been more hot this weekend.

1300
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I mean I'm sitting there. I was catching

1301
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: up with a buddy who actually had really cool sees

1302
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: behind the plate, and you know I'm up in the

1303
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: control room during games. Uh so I haven't sat in

1304
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: the stands at City Field. And it's been a while

1305
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: so to be able to have a vantage point like

1306
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: that and see Mark just nail it on the head.

1307
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: That's one a day. I mean, you know, all the

1308
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: other stuff, all the other stuff you guys talked about

1309
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: was obviously amazing too. And I have a confession to make.

1310
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: Oh we'll hear at John.

1311
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: I also accidentally took a napkin from the hotel.

1312
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's John go back to a napkin.

1313
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: I was. I was being as Mark and James would say,

1314
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: Annie mal with my locks, like right before we were

1315
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: about the lead so much loss. This is when I

1316
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: looked at Mark and I said, dude, it's gonna go

1317
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: to waste, like they're not going to repurpose that. I

1318
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 3: might as well just try to put as much of

1319
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: a dent in it as I can. So half a

1320
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: bagel slammed a bunch of locks. And I don't like

1321
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 3: cream cheese. I'm only locks, which I know is very weird.

1322
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: You don't like cream cheese? How was that?

1323
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm just not a big cheese guy. I think I

1324
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: think I used to like it when I was young.

1325
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: Can I switch?

1326
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can can I take your cheese. Can we switch

1327
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: because I love cheese and I can as lactose intolerant,

1328
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: and you have the ability to when you choose not to.

1329
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: That infuriates me.

1330
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: Can I also tell listeners some funny that happened on Saturday?

1331
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: Okay, So Mark and I have been.

1332
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: Peeling John back layer by Lair met him when we

1333
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: first started this gig. We've all abab becoming ends here

1334
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of just nice Central Jersey

1335
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: guys hanging out.

1336
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: New Jersey, and he's South.

1337
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: But Mark and I have been talking for like a

1338
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: few weeks now about what car John drives. It's just

1339
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: like you guys won't get this because you're you don't

1340
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: see the whole personality of John day by day. You know.

1341
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: It was when Johnny.

1342
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: Thread's Johnny Stats, Johnny Lynn's Johnny Lennon. We were trying

1343
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: to figure out what kind of Cary drives because John

1344
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: John's a complex individual. And I want to my own

1345
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: horn because I hit this car make model color completely

1346
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: on the head, so many unbelievable how the civic I

1347
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: think it's right, black.

1348
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: Cones, thirteen Jersey plates. If you see me, get out

1349
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 3: of the way.

1350
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: I freaked out. I just talked to Billy Waggers, like,

1351
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: I guess John's car, right, I jumped in the air.

1352
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was funny. That was funny to

1353
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 3: hear that, you guys were We're talking about that secretly.

1354
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't count for the rest of.

1355
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: That, thank god, it doesn't. I need all the points

1356
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: I can get, and as we know, you know, I

1357
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: got one this weekend, which is great.

1358
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1359
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think it's two out of the last

1360
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: three for you, Mark, which is more than you could

1361
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: say for the first.

1362
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: However, many if I wasn't a dumb idiot with the

1363
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: booze one at Yankee Stadium, if I if I had,

1364
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: if I followed my brain and not my heart, as

1365
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: as I said in that episode, never follow your heart.

1366
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Always trust your brain, it would be six to four

1367
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: right now, and it would.

1368
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: Really be in striking distance.

1369
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: I'd be in striking distance. But because of that flub,

1370
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: because of that critical error, four away. But the new

1371
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: system I think plays to my advantage.

1372
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: I agree, and I think that the one we have

1373
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: coming up that I'll get to in a second is

1374
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 3: a really good one. I just want to ask you guys,

1375
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: really quickly obviously my Piazza I know, for anyone in

1376
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: our age range is the guy along with David Wright

1377
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: as far as like Met's legends we looked up to.

1378
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: But who was the second person at all the festivity

1379
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: Saturday who you were the most just starstruck being around?

1380
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: Who was that that just made you totally kind of

1381
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: not freak out?

1382
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, if I would have

1383
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: been up close to Pedro, I would have freaked out. Yeah,

1384
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: I think he's probably, if not the I mean, he's

1385
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: probably of our generation, the best pitcher that like I

1386
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: ever saw in my life, the most dominant, least or

1387
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: at least the one who stunned me the most with

1388
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: his stuff, Because you could definitely claim like the gram

1389
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Kershaw Scherzer. Of course, they all might have had, I mean,

1390
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: not even a better peak. It might have had a

1391
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: little bit more more of an extended prime you Pedro had.

1392
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: But like what I was like learning about baseball and

1393
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: discovering what it was like, he was everything and just

1394
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: he said, he's such like a I don't know. The

1395
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: magnitude is presence. It's unbelievable.

1396
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: Pedro's a good answer for me. I gotta go with

1397
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: Jose Rayes just because that's another one of those like

1398
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: forever Mets we grew up around. Like I know he

1399
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: played for other teams, but like, really he's He's a

1400
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: Met at the end of the day. And seeing him

1401
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: on the field, being around him, washing him, take BP,

1402
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: like being within feet of him, I was like, Oh

1403
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: my god, it's it's Jose Rays, like this was the

1404
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: guy that you know or not even ten years ago,

1405
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: it's a lot longer now, sixteen years ago, whatever it was.

1406
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: I was watching every single day and being like, wow,

1407
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: we have Jose Rays next to David right, like he

1408
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: was a part of what was supposed to be the

1409
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: great long future of the Mets.

1410
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: It was kind of beautiful to hear the Jose Jose,

1411
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: Jose Jose. When his name got announced for the ceremony,

1412
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, I was like I felt warm

1413
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: and said, yeah, no.

1414
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: I think Jose is my pick. I also was it

1415
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: was really cool like to be around, just like I

1416
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: like seeing the cult heroes too, like a Benny Agabayani

1417
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: was really cool, just such a cold classic. And then

1418
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: at Guardo Alfonso. I used to love saying his name

1419
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I thought it just really rolled

1420
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: off the tongue, and I was lucky enough he does

1421
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: roll off the tongue and Gardo Alfonso like I would like,

1422
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: really throw some some spice on it. And it was

1423
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: cool that I got to talk to him and do

1424
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: the interview with him because he was a guy that

1425
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: I really admired when I was younger as a player.

1426
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: That's awesome. One thing for sure, like the one thing

1427
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: that stood out to me in terms of athleticism during

1428
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: that game. Andy Chavez could probably still play in a

1429
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 3: major league gutfield.

1430
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. He would be He would be amazing.

1431
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: He would be the best centerfielder on the Marlins.

1432
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of probably. Yeah, I think about that.

1433
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: I mean was kind of a shower fishing around baseball anyway.

1434
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: But I mean it was just, you know, he's not

1435
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: that old. I think he's forty four. I think we

1436
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: look today.

1437
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: I have a picture of on my wall.

1438
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: I love and I was a kid making the catch.

1439
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: No, it's just him taking a hack.

1440
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: That's hilarious, him swinging and that with the catch.

1441
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: I might have gone it before the catch because I

1442
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: just really liked dy. He was just the grinder. He's

1443
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: a good defensive player. I just thought he was a

1444
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 2: good player.

1445
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: He's a guy too. When we were watching take VP,

1446
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: we're saying, how like he would benefit he would have

1447
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: benefited so much from the way that modern baseball's played

1448
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: now and how they teach hitting because he's such a

1449
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: good little player, and like he used a lot of

1450
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: his body. I think yet it could have gotten more

1451
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: out of it.

1452
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: Dude.

1453
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: The irony of that is he is using these advanced

1454
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: methods and he's like enhancing the mess organization from the inside.

1455
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: He's a coach the FCL. I I don't remember if

1456
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: he's is he head manager, John I believe so.

1457
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 3: No. I think he's an outfield instructor. He was talking

1458
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: a lot about that. I actually heard an absolutely hilarious

1459
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: story that he was telling Billy Wagner about getting thrown

1460
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 3: out of the game down there and arguing with an umpire.

1461
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to tell the rest of the story,

1462
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: but it was. It was just awesome to hear. And

1463
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 3: it's really cool, like you said, James, that he is

1464
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: working with, you know, the young players, building those blocks

1465
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: that you know you need to build to develop young

1466
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: players into major League ball players and who better to

1467
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: learn from than any Schabz.

1468
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: And the FCL is such a unique league in general

1469
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: because that's the first introduction a lot of literal teenagers

1470
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: have to do to a new country. And to have

1471
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: a guy like Endy, you need you basically, you need

1472
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: someone trustworthy there because there's a lot of there's a

1473
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: lot of bad things that happened in baseball with younger,

1474
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: younger Latin American players. So it's very cool to see

1475
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: him be so well respected as he players like, speaking

1476
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: and thinking like other people, new organizations speaking so highly

1477
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: of him, and him being able to come back for

1478
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: an event like this was just cool cool for all.

1479
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and another cool connection his uh his famous walk

1480
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: go off drag bonnt was against the Colorado Rockies. Nice,

1481
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: so that was a nice little connection with Andy Chavez

1482
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: for this weekend. But for me it was probably Daniel Murphy.

1483
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: I got to speak with Murph, got to work on

1484
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: a project that hopefully Mets fans will see soon. Just

1485
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: catching up with some former players, talking about some big

1486
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: playoff moments, and obviously everyone thinks about the home run

1487
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: streak in the twenty fifteen playoffs, but I was sitting

1488
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: there thinking about that entire run and his contributions, and

1489
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: I remembered, and I think it's all overthought his base

1490
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: running play where he went from first to third on

1491
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: the Lucas dude to walk, and he walked me through

1492
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: the entire sequence of like the umpire not making a

1493
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: very very obvious call, and how he locked eyes with

1494
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: Corey Seeger and Secre in that moment knew that he

1495
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: was kind of sol and that Urt was going to

1496
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 3: beat him to the bag. It was just so cool

1497
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: to hear such a detailed recount of that instance. Obviously

1498
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: not too long ago, but I mean seven years ago now,

1499
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: yeh man, which only means we're getting older.

1500
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't even I couldn't even have a legal drink

1501
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: of alcohol at that time.

1502
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: It was a sophomore college I was a child.

1503
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen Wow, Well, you guys weren't drinking at all

1504
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: at that point, so that's good.

1505
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: Actually, I distinctly remember not drinking at all during that

1506
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: postseason run. I wanted to keep myself nerves pure for

1507
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 2: the Mets.

1508
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: Yet you're for the Mets. That's awesome.

1509
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: Being sarcastic.

1510
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh oh.

1511
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: I told a story in the show like you did that.

1512
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: I got too drunk after the Mets one of the

1513
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: first world's year of the game I ever see consciously,

1514
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: and I missed a fly home for my mom's birthday.

1515
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do remember that night.

1516
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: I got stand by though, I got it back and

1517
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: my mom's listening to that so nice.

1518
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: A bad nights to have been drunk was the night

1519
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: after the night you're talking about Halloween twenty fifteen. Yeah,

1520
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: that was I was not a good night to be drinking.

1521
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: That was.

1522
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. But anyway, so yeah, just an amazing,

1523
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: amazing time. It was so cool to be part of that.

1524
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 3: You know, your Dad's made you guys Mets fans, the

1525
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: same with me, and you know, just the entire history

1526
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: for us. We didn't see all of it, so it's

1527
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 3: really cool for it to be evident in front of us.

1528
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 3: But anyway, back to the current estimate for this week,

1529
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: Dodgers coming to town, and I was thinking for a

1530
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: good one here. Obviously, we try to bring only the

1531
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: best estimate to the table and the Dodgers. One of

1532
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: the biggest pains in the butt in that lineup is

1533
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 3: Max Munsey, who is like Juan Soto in the fact

1534
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: that he does not chase pitches, he has the second

1535
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 3: lowest chase rate in baseball, behind Olijan Soto. And on

1536
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: the other side of the coin, Mets pitchers this year

1537
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 3: have induced the fourth highest chase rate among all staffs.

1538
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 3: And that's obviously Jacob deGrom and Edwin Diaz in the

1539
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: white out sliders, and you guys know the rest of

1540
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: the arms and the on the Mets staff. So the

1541
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 3: question is for you guys, how many chases will Mets

1542
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: pitchers induce during this three game series? For Max Munsey,

1543
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: so quick math three games series?

1544
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: What are what are our projected starters?

1545
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: Do we know it's gonna be Walker de gram Bassett

1546
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: for the Mets. I believe Gonsoln's pitching for the Dodgers

1547
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: on Tuesday. I think Tyler Anderson is gonna go. He

1548
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: needs listening to.

1549
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: I did see Gonsol though somewhere else, so I do

1550
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be Anderson. May I'm pretty sure.

1551
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: Oh maybe because the off day they can they can

1552
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: skip somebody. I'm assuming that they're off tomorrow. I haven't checked.

1553
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: I know that I know they're intending to do a

1554
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: six men rotation when Kershaw comes back. I don't know

1555
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: if that's necessarily like now or just they're planning for it.

1556
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: Gotcha today and.

1557
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: The Dodgers also saw I guess we're gonna like do

1558
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: eas into this Dodgers preview now, they kind of saw

1559
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: how much tired pitchers could hurt the playoff run. So

1560
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: I think they're really going to try and space these

1561
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: guys out with their massive division lead.

1562
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: Anyway, I've got my number written down. I did some math.

1563
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the math.

1564
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 3: Mark's the thinking man over there. Meanwhile, James and I

1565
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 3: are trying to decipher who there going to say?

1566
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: Just where I wanted you, Why do you think I

1567
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: asked the question. I wanted to focus on my numbers.

1568
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have to carry a conversation I.

1569
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: Did when John was pontificating three minutes ago.

1570
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State guy over here, he's doing doing quick math

1571
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: in his head. I had to write down on a

1572
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: piece of paper like the old days.

1573
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: Go bucks, all right, all right, you guys ready to

1574
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 3: show Yeah, all right, on the count of three, one, two.

1575
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: Three, bang wow, nineteen wow. I went seven. That's interesting

1576
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: games nineteen chases, yeah, I think so okay, So A

1577
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: chase is defined as what just so the viewers at

1578
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: home now and swing a pitch outside the strike? So okay, correct,

1579
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: that's interesting. So the way I did my math was

1580
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: his chase rates about seventeen percent right now. I figured

1581
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna get about twelve at bats in the series.

1582
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: He's going to see about four pitches every at bad.

1583
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: I think, wow.

1584
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: See, I went six pitches per that bad and that's why.

1585
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 2: And I also bumped his chase right up to about

1586
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: twenty percent because it'll be a little bit higher in

1587
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: the season average again interest that that's.

1588
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: A good point for I put him at forty eight

1589
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: total pitches for the series.

1590
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: Then you see I put him at like almost ninety.

1591
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I did the math, and it came

1592
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: out to seven point two. I thought about going eight

1593
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: just to round up, but I went with seven just because.

1594
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: How many bats do you think he's gonna get this series?

1595
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: I just gonna get twelve.

1596
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: I think you can get fifteen.

1597
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: It's the three games. I mean. I like to do.

1598
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: I like to do conservatively.

1599
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: Honestly. I did my math for fourteen. But just the

1600
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: Dodgers lineup is good, like it's gonna spin a round

1601
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: for sure, and I didn't hinding at the bottom of it.

1602
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: I didn't really take that into consideration.

1603
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: There's also a world too where like I mean maximunty

1604
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: like he he doesn't chase, of course, like he doesn't chase.

1605
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: So I mean if he puts a ball in.

1606
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't put a couple to one out of five for sure,

1607
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: he puts.

1608
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: A ball and play quickly like that. That really does

1609
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: help the numbers.

1610
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: For me.

1611
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: This is great.

1612
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 3: I was first pitch.

1613
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: We have to get above seven here. Yeah, well not necessarily, yeah,

1614
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean it goes above right.

1615
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: No, I think it's just the difference between the two.

1616
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, yeah, it's a different.

1617
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no prices, right rules.

1618
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean eight you still lose, you know,

1619
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I like my number of seven. That buys me, That

1620
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: buys me to what like thirteen.

1621
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, it's probably good.

1622
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: Again, I think that's a pretty good number by me.

1623
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: Look the new system all let Mark get hot.

1624
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: I mean that's a crazy I guess by James. I

1625
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: think the disparity is wild. The one thing is Max

1626
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: Monty is a full count machine. I think he said

1627
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: eighty seven plate appearances go full I think he's going

1628
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: a lot of time this year.

1629
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: I think you've seeing like six seven pitches in that

1630
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: bad for sure.

1631
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I I like to think the

1632
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: Mets pitchers are just gonna really attack, especially against Max Mounty,

1633
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: knowing that he's just gonna spit on everything that's not

1634
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: really close. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see

1635
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: how this one plays out. John is always appreciate you

1636
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: helping us out here with this estimate, and uh, hopefully

1637
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: the next time we talk, I will have another victory

1638
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: in the score books. I don't want to wear a tuxedo.

1639
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: That was Uh, that's an interesting one. Seven Verse nineteen.

1640
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: You guys at home keep an eye out this series

1641
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: because I know you guys are watching closely for the

1642
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: es the Mets see who will be wearing a tuxedo?

1643
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be for opening there? If we said

1644
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: that was gonna be for the playoffs?

1645
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think we've decided. We're gonna see if

1646
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: the Mets help us out.

1647
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Well, whatever help we get from the Mets

1648
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 1: will be this quickest that we can do it, because

1649
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't think either of us want to pay to

1650
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: rent a tuxedo now I won't. All right, let's do

1651
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: this Dodgers preview here to wrap up this episode.

1652
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

1653
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no other way to describe to this

1654
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: as but the best two teams in baseball record wise

1655
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 2: are going to the town.

1656
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: Dodgers are really I mean, they're just they're just so good.

1657
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: They're a really, really good baseball team. You guys know this.

1658
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: We don't have to tell you about it. Everywhere you look,

1659
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: they got good players. I mean, Will Smith's like the

1660
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: best catcher in baseball arguably. Freddy Freeman's having an MVP

1661
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: type season again, because of course he is. Because of course,

1662
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: when Freddie Freeman leaves the Braves, he goes to the Dodgers.

1663
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: He couldn't go to like the Texas Rangers, the Oakland A's.

1664
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: He couldn't, he couldn't do us a favor and just

1665
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: like leave and we don't have to see him again.

1666
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: Trey Turner's playing great, Gavin is even playing great now.

1667
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: Maxi Monz, who started the year off slow, got hot recently.

1668
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger, I'm not gonna say anything about Cody Belnger,

1669
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: have no comments, but Mookie Bets justin Turner, like Trey

1670
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: Turner that said Trey Turner, didn't I miss him there,

1671
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: Trace Thompson, you can they pull guys out of nowhere

1672
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: and they just have great years. Like this team is

1673
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,959
Speaker 1: unbelievably good and their pitching is great.

1674
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, speaking about pulling guys out of nowhere, the Dodgers'

1675
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: bullpen this year is like everyone besides Craig Kimbrel is

1676
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: like almost unhit thea ball in this bullpen, which is

1677
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: kind of ironic because he's still the closer. But Evan Phillips,

1678
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: who's a guy who I I He's He's so good

1679
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: right now, it's like stupid. Well, Vessia is fantastic. VESSI

1680
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: had one of my favorite pitchers to watch in baseball.

1681
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: Bruise Ard just came back.

1682
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Daniel's still heard he believe right, Yeah.

1683
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: And like they they do have some injuries in the bullpen,

1684
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: like y c Almonte, who was another guy they pulled

1685
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: from the Rockies, which is funny and just made him nasty.

1686
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: He's on the I l as well. But I mean

1687
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: even like you just go through this roster, you're like, oh,

1688
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: it makes sense why they're the best team.

1689
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: In baseball. Yeah, it really does. But you know what,

1690
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: right now, based on record for the second best team

1691
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: in baseball.

1692
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: There's no reason we can't beat the Dodgers. There's no reason.

1693
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm not calling for sweep, so I'm not asking for

1694
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: crazy stuff, but a win to win the series against

1695
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: the Dodgers is not out of the question. The Mets

1696
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: have their really good pitchers going. The Mets are a

1697
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: really good baseball team. Swing the bats, play the game

1698
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: that we've seen them play all year long, and we

1699
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: have a very good shot in the series.

1700
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: Definitely. And you're getting a look at two guys who

1701
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: crushed the Mets last time around. The two games the

1702
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: Mets lost in Los Angeles were pitched by Tony Gonsolin

1703
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: and Tyler Anderson. Each of them made the Mets Hithers

1704
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: look foolish. I think each sevenish innings. See him again,

1705
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: get it, get on him. Come on, you can't win

1706
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: a World series, he can't beat the Dodgers. You gotta

1707
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: do it. And then we're gonna see Dustin May on

1708
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: Thursday in an evening game, a twilight game, four o'clock start.

1709
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: He is so good, so good.

1710
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: You're a big Dustin may guy. I know his stuff is.

1711
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: I know his stuff is like video game like, so

1712
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: I'll respect it.

1713
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came up when he was a rookie two

1714
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: years ago, two full years ago, and he was good,

1715
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: but he was not great. And he can throwing a

1716
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: lot of sinkers, but to get any whiffs, he just

1717
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: couldn't really his his two seamer sinker moved so much

1718
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 2: like it was very video game like. On pitching, Ninja

1719
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: was featured in there predominantly for like like every single

1720
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: start he made. It was almost so crazy that he

1721
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: couldn't control it at all. So we always just had

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Speaker 2: to wind up in the strike zone. You had to

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Speaker 2: like kind of be in the middle of the play

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Speaker 2: because you know how else to get it there. Now

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Speaker 2: he's really gotten the hang of it, and his slyder's crazy.

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Speaker 2: His curve ball is crazy. Like he's just he's been

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Speaker 2: n hita ble basically since he came back. I think

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Speaker 2: both starts are against the Marlins, so we'll see. This

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Speaker 2: might be his first real test. Yeah, but he's he

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Speaker 2: looks amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's gonna be a tough one.

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Speaker 1: But playoff baseball, I mean, get out to the Ballpark.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get a playoff atmophere, Mets Dodgers here. The

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Speaker 1: Dodgers fans also travel extremely well, and it'll be they'll

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Speaker 1: be here. Are pretty intolerable to deal with, but they

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Speaker 1: make some noise, so it's gonna be a fun series

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Speaker 1: out in Queens.

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Speaker 2: They're they're really confident for a fan base that has

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 2: only one twenty seven percent of a world series this generation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mickey Mickey Mouse world series. It's the definition

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: No, they want to really wonder of a world series

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Speaker 2: a little more less than the third.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, twenty seven percent. Yeah, it's good and it's impressive. Listen,

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Speaker 1: beat the Dodgers, feeling really good. You loose to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: They're the best team in baseball, I mean, gotcha, got me?

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Speaker 1: You know how we're doing it. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much all we got to say about this episode,

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01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: right lengthy one. But we had a lot to talk

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01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: about Old Timer's Day four game series against the Rock.

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Speaker 1: He's a little fun with the estimate. You guys know

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: the drill though, if you have enjoyed everything that you're seeing,

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Speaker 1: everything that you're listening to, you know all that make

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Speaker 1: sure you follow us on all our social media at

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Speaker 1: will be on the New York Mets YouTube channel if

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Speaker 1: you want to give a look at that. If you're

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Speaker 1: make sure you do that. Follow James on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: At James Underscore Chiano.

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on Twitter at traffneck Mark with

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Speaker 1: a C. Thank you guys for listening, Thank you for watching,

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01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: and we'll see on the next episode. After the Dodgers series,

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Speaker 1: peace out.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, guys, see you next time. Get up, Get

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Speaker 2: Get up, Get Up.