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April Showers 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: rings made flowers. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 5: That's a fact. 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: That's what they say. 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 5: How many times you heard that growing. 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: Up less than a million. 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 5: Maybe somewhere around there, somewhere around. 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: There, is that your real name? Born and raised April Showers. 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: My first serf, Herman Showers, is my father. 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 4: So what what? That's why they named you April Showers. 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: Got to the same. 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: Yes, because if I was a boy, I would be 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: Thunder because I'm born in July. 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: Thundershower. 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: That's crazy, you know, a running back or something like that. 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, thun the Showers off boxer box definitely in a 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: w W. You don't even need a boxing name. That'll 37 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: be a boxing name and think about that. Yeah, Thundershowers all. 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 5: You could work for. Okay, see, okay, some of the possibility. 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: It's a fat and I just had everybody know. She 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: walked in with a different type of energy. 41 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 6: Today we'll get into that, but there's definitely a West 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 6: Coast flavor. 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: To it for sure. 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, West Coast states on you. 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: I have been oh last before you got here. 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: All about my take on this battle. Shout out to 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: the West Coast. 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 5: Yo, I'm happy for y'all. I'm happy for hip hop. 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: Shout out to l A man. 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 7: But we're from New York, so. 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: I know, I know We're good though, all right, your 52 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: birth park. 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 7: So that's a fast let's not forgot we're claiming that. 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: So April is a pioneering entrepreneur, founder of Afro Unicorn, 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 4: are the first black woman on fully licensed character brand 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: and major retail And this is simple. 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 5: Oh, in case you were wondering, wondering, Yeah. 58 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: In case you were wondering. So you know, it's groundbreaking brand, 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: celebrates diversity and empowered women and children of color, and 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: has sold over twenty million of sales. It's part speaker. 61 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: You've been on numerous platforms like over thirty. I saw 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: in the bio, Yes, sir, everything from. 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: This was it though I saw it on the board, 64 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: like this was on my board. 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 7: So I saw it in the bio. It said at 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 7: least twenty twenty four. Yeah, I said, we spoke this 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 7: into first, and we've met before. I think at the 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 7: time you were about to do or you had just 69 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 7: done CBS in. 70 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: The morning, right, Oh you remember me. We met at 71 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: what's it called New York Fashion Week Haarlem at Apollo. 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and you had just done it. Yeah, that's true. 73 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: So this is going to be a dope conversation talking 74 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: about you know, the motivational speaking the products entrepreneurship, your journey. 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: So thank you for joining us, appreciate. 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: It and thank you for having me. 77 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: Yes. Sure, so all right, let's get into it. Where 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: does this start? Right? Because you're from La, south central LA. 79 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 4: We just found that out. 80 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: The albums might have given it in a way as well. 81 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: Shot to my La family all money and you know 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: those guys the ice cube. You know, we got a 83 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: lot of friends in La. But okay, how do you 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 4: get the vision to become an entrepreneur? What's the first 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 4: steps to actually, you know, achieve this goal and explain 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: the actual product behind the unicorn? 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a lot so first off, entrepreneurial it was 88 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: in me. It's a spirit that I've had since I 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: was about fourteen years old. My first gig was I 90 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: was nineteen and I hired a bunch of young ladies 91 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: that were like my mini means to be PA's for 92 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: other people in the entertainment industry. So I started that 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: at nineteen and then from there I just was always 94 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: trying to find a hustle. I really do think it's 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: in you because a lot of people think when they 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: work nine to five, like I just don't want to 97 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: work for nobody else. But if you not working the 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: nine to five, how the nine to five is supposed 99 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: to be worked, you're not going to work for yourself 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: more Like, I think that that's so false. Fast forward 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: a little bit too where how I got to afric unicorn. 102 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: I own to operate a state farm agency about to 103 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: hit year thirteen. I'm also a licensed real estate broker. 104 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: So a friend kept referring to me as a unicorn 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: on the Most Important Single Mother Too Amazing Young Black 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: Boys on a row student boys shout out to Jesse 107 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: and Christopher and so my friend kept telling me I 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: was a unicorn. He was like, you're a unicorn. Your 109 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: unicorn said for like two years, Like why you keep 110 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: calling me that? He's like, well, because you have the 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: businesses that you're maintaining, you're raising the boys. You know 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: you're doing it. I said, well, I'm a woman. That's 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: what I'm built to do. Like He's like, nah, April, 114 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: you do it an extraordinary level. That's what makes you 115 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: a unicorn. So the idea of being a unicorn came 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: from my friend. I googled it because I didn't really 117 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: know what unicorns were. I saw they were unique. They 118 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: were I'm like, I'm definitely unique. I'm all things black 119 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: girl magic, and I started using the emojis in our 120 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: phone until one day I was like, dang, why is 121 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: it white? Like it don't resonate with me anymore. So 122 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: I actually went to go find one that looked like me. 123 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: I couldn't find one, so I said, complaining about it, 124 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna create one that looks like me. 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: And then during the creation of it, we had different 126 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: shades of it, and I'm like, Yo, this looks like 127 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: a movement, and I bet it's so many other women 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: out there that felt like I was feeling, didn't know 129 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: that they had the unicorn within them. I'm gonna go 130 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: find my tribe. So that's how it kind of started 131 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: with me creating a platform in twenty nineteen to highlight 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: other entrepreneurs, to shine light on them, to let them 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: know that anything is possible, and to give them something 134 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: that represented who they were that they could physically wear. 135 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: So at the first drop was just apparel. It was 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: just a T shirt, and then the like to Tiffany Haddis, 137 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: Sherry Shepherd, Lisha Keys, all of them jumped on board 138 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: immediately because I would just be in their comments and 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: DM saying, hey, have you ever sent after Unicorn? Before 140 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: I created a brand of women of color who hustle 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: follow the movement, they already resonated themselves with either Black 142 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: Unicorn or super Mom or super entrepreneurnewers. When they slid 143 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: over to my page, they were like, dang, that Unicorn 144 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: represents who I am. So now fast forward maybe a 145 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: year or two later, and I'm skipping the line. We 146 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: could always go back, but Walmart reaches out after a 147 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: video went viral of a little girl wearing afric Unicorn 148 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: shirt and they saw all the comments. I said, that's 149 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: Africancorn's baby, that's after Unicorns apparel. And she reached out 150 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: and was like, hey, can you what you consider doing 151 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: party supplies with us? And that's what got me into 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: licensing again. I said a lot, But we could go 153 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: all the way back, because it's it's. 154 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: Deep twenty nineteen. 155 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: We launched you, right, but then twenty is the pandemic, 156 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 6: So how are you navigating through that? 157 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 7: Because is it just is it still T shirts during 158 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 7: the pandemic or did you have to change the business. 159 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 6: Model or adapt to Obviously e commerce might have worked 160 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 6: into your benefit. What was that like during pandemic time 161 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 6: as you had just larger Brent? 162 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: So at first I was printing shirts right, and then 163 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: I realized that that wasn't gonna get it for me 164 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: because the orders were coming in. There's three different shades. 165 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out, Okay, how many at the time 166 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: I have vanilla, Mocha and caramel, Like, how many Vanilla's 167 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: gonna be three xls? How a man gonna be two xs? 168 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: So it was very complicated. So I immediately switched over to 169 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: print on demand. And when print on demand, they have 170 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: other accessories that I added. As soon as I dropped 171 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: the shirt, people were like, oh, do you have this 172 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: on a notebook? Can I get it on the backpack? 173 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: Can I get it on this or that? And so 174 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: I was like, well, whatever, they got it on print 175 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: on demand, I'll find it and I'll get it out. 176 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: So my focus from day one was just to put 177 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: it on as many people that's possible, so I could 178 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: have walking billboards, gotcha. 179 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: So talk about all the product lines that you actually 180 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 4: have within the umbrella of the Unicorn. You have the 181 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: merchant tell. 182 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: By everything, so there's We've put out probably about five 183 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: hundred different skews categories about twenty five. So we have haircare, 184 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: have a full line, magical tresses, sham food conditioner, edge control. 185 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: Then we have toys, plush, coloring books. I just dropped 186 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: another book with Random House yesterday, stepped my step into 187 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: reading book. That's my sixth book with Random House. Graphic 188 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: novels with Andrews McNeil coming out in July. Of course, 189 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: the apparel, backpacks, suitcases, fruit snacks, cakes in every grocery store, cookies, 190 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: I leave pajamas. That's a whole different category in itself. 191 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: Women's lines a different category. Am I leaving out? We 192 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: had and pellines at one point. We're working with ride 193 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: alongs right now, so you'll be able to have like, 194 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: you know, the little RVs or whatever they call the kids, 195 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: some cars, like the little escalades and stuff. 196 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: Oh like the toy trucks. 197 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the toy trucks. We're getting into that, ya said. 198 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: The hair hair accessories, so like you got bowls and 199 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: clips and all of that. And I know I'm leaving 200 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: a lot of things, puzzles, trying to walk out. I 201 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: got bandages, So how does this okay? 202 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: So you have an idea for a unicorn, right, just 203 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: the symbolicness of a black unicorn, which represents strength and 204 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 4: uniqueness and black women pretty much paraphrasing, right. So then 205 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: you start with a T shirt, which that's easy to 206 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: print up. Anybody can do T shirts, right, and people 207 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: start wearing a T shirt? Right, So how do you 208 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 4: go into all of these other different are you just 209 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 4: licensing your name to products? Like is it like white labeled? 210 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: Like how are you going to like all these other 211 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: different verticals? 212 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: So I love that we're going to dive into this 213 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: because I always say that licensing it's a ninety eight 214 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: billion dollar industry, and forty six percent of that is 215 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: character licensing. But it's still like a two percent of industry, right, 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: so only really two percent know what licensing in the 217 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: character space really is. But so now I tell people 218 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm the owner of a fully licensed character brand, They're like, 219 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: oh great, now, what is that? My direct competitors are Disney, Marvel, 220 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: and Nick. So to find out for Unicorn, wherever you 221 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: see Mickey Mouse, you will see after Unicorn next to it. 222 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: Those companies they are licensed character brands, meaning that they 223 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: are the license sore they own the intellectual property, and 224 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: then they find licensees who either directly manufacture or they 225 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: have manufacturing facilities abroad or domestically where they ship directly 226 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: into retail. What they do as a licensee, they get 227 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: the license Sore, Disney, Marvel, and Nick. They give them 228 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: an upfront minimum guarantee to be able to say, Hey, 229 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: if you allow me to do I have underwear too. 230 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: If you allow me to do underwear with your logo 231 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: on it, with your character artwork on it, I'm going 232 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: to pay you X amount of dollars in advance in 233 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: addition to also a royalty for every item. So so 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: that is what licensing is. I always try to bring 235 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: it back to a little bit of hip hop to 236 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: make people really understand that infamous interview with Kanye and 237 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: Sway when Kanye was saying, look, I'm trying to get 238 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: like the Ralph Laurens and the Calvin Kleines of the world, 239 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: and Sway was like, but you're rich, Kanye, just go 240 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: take all your millions and make your own products. Kanye 241 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: was like, you ain't got the answers, Like I lost 242 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 2: twenty seven million trying to do it that way. That 243 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: ain't it? They doing something that I don't know what 244 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: they're doing to get it out to mass distribution. Fast 245 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: forward six or eight maybe eight years later, he does 246 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: the licensing deal with Adidas and becomes a billionaire. On paper, 247 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: we could talk about how good or bad his deal was, 248 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: but in essence, licensing allows you to get mass distribution 249 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: very quickly without having to have the upfront cost. 250 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 5: All right, I got that. 251 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 6: So you said your item Unicorn is going to be sold. 252 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 6: So I imagine the a's a shelf. Disney is licensed 253 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 6: to Mickey Mouse, right, Nigga's going to license doorally Explore, 254 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 6: and I got Spider Man. And then you're just sitting 255 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 6: on the shelf. You take it to somebody, you stay, 256 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 6: say here's the amount of money. 257 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: Now so you oh, so you are licensing or you're 258 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: not licensing? 259 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: Our license? 260 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 4: Your license. 261 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the only black woman to have a fully 262 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: licensed character brand. 263 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: Now you choose the retail or. How does that work? 264 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: Right? 265 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 6: So we get in Walmart, how do we get the target, 266 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 6: how do we get to how do we get into 267 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 6: those How does that work? 268 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: So traditionally it will work with the licensees would have 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: the relationship. So there's one there's one guy that does 270 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: underwear for everybody, for all retail, for the majority of it. 271 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: He does all the underwear for every single character that 272 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: that you see. If you flip over the package, you'll 273 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: see I open into this new world. Like now I 274 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: know when every I go through the stores, all I 275 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: do is flip over packages because I want to know 276 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: who's actually distributing these packages. I mean, this product. So 277 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: the way that it will work is that in your 278 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: contract you will specify the retail channels that they're allowed 279 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: to sell into. 280 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: Gotcha. 281 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: But being new to the space and not really we 282 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: learned it from the gate. So me and my partner 283 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: at Skia Fountain, Hey, Skia, Me and the Skia watched 284 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: the toys that made us on Netflix and that was 285 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: the behind the stories behind the scene of like Ninja, Turtles, Hello, 286 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: Kitty he Man and all these other great properties. Right, 287 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: and it talked about licensing because I didn't know anything 288 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: about it when Walmart presented it to me. Right, So 289 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: we learned that we had to build relationships quickly and fast. 290 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: We understood that if we wanted to get to target 291 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: or we wanted Okay, I think the first thing we 292 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: first thing we had was party supplies, right, So I 293 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: had two licensees to prepare the party supplies, and when 294 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: we dropped in Walmart, we had twenty two skews. So 295 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: when you say party, you're like, you know, napkins and plates, 296 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: but that those plush that was also in party. And 297 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: then from there we went to apparel. The unique thing 298 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: about licensing, it's such a small industry. They all know 299 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: each other. That's what Kanye was saying, like they got 300 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: this information that's not getting out. I say, it's never 301 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: lack of talent with us, it's always lack of information 302 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: because we always have what it takes to succeed, but 303 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: the information does not trickle down to us. And I 304 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: felt like, look, I know how it works, so we're 305 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: gonna go out and find as much information as we 306 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: possibly can. So I just started going to stores and 307 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: flipping over packages. I would see who manufactured. I would 308 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: go on LinkedIn. I would find that company. I would 309 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: search the people that worked there. I would see who 310 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: were the buyers. I'll DM them saying, hey, Walmart's bringing 311 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: us in. We're a new brand. I would love to 312 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: have a conversation, but they were already talking, so they're 313 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: also like two degrees removed. So if you're on the 314 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: underwear side, you know the pajama guy because he's probably 315 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: your cousin or your uncle. And then the pajama guy 316 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: knows the shirt guy. And that's how it's just word 317 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: of mouth really, but it's the information that we just 318 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: don't have and that doesn't come down this way. 319 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 5: So what's the first product? Right? 320 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 6: Because I imagine and people listen to the story, Now 321 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 6: out your trademarket, right, and then the first product is 322 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 6: what after the T shirts? 323 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: In retail party supplies parties, Walmart reached out and asked, 324 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: can we create a line for party supplies? 325 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 6: So after they do the party supplies, they see the 326 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 6: sales of that, they say, do you. 327 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: Have more what? 328 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: They didn't even see the sales. So we were in 329 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: a unique position after George Floyd and we were part 330 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: of that whole push for DEI right where everyone wanted 331 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: to bring something to check the box off. And I'm okay, 332 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm okay with being brought in like that. I'm just 333 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: gonna make sure I stay in right. So I believe 334 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: that they were trying to find diverse properties at the time, 335 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: so it aligned that they found after Unicorn, and they 336 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: brought us in that way, right, So that's party Supplies 337 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: was the first and immediately when Walmart is the largest 338 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: retailler in the US. I don't know if people know that. 339 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: They think target. Target has about eighteen hundred doors, Walmart 340 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: has about four thousand. They're huge. So if Walmart has 341 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: your attention, everyone's talking now. So before we even went 342 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: to sales, we already had our deal for apparel before 343 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: we so Walmart reached out August of twenty twenty one. 344 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: We launched in May twenty twenty two, and we were 345 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: already in maybe four categories before we sold anything. 346 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: Okay, so each category you're getting the check. 347 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So how does the licensing actually work? Like? 348 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: Can you break it down? Like the deal structure? 349 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: So you get a minimum guarantee. It could be anything 350 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: from ten thousand to a million. 351 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: That no matter even if it doesn't sell anything, you're 352 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 4: gonna get That's what minimum guarantee means. You're gonna get 353 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars no matter what, or you get a 354 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 4: million dollars no matter what. 355 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: Right, right, And then you get a royalty. So hopefully 356 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 2: the licensee will be able to recoup that minimum guarantee 357 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: based off of sales, and then once they get that 358 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 2: minimum guarantee back, then you start receiving your royalties from that. 359 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: Royalties for a character bran can go anywhere between eight 360 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: percent to about fifteen fifteen percent. 361 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: So okay. So you get let's say a half a 362 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: million dollars no matter what happens, and then you get 363 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: a fifteen percent royalty. But now that fifteen percent doesn't 364 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 4: kick in until the first half a million dollars is 365 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: actually recooped. Correct, That's how it works. 366 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: Correct. 367 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: After that five hundred thousand is actually recooped, then you 368 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: start to earn in the royalty. You don't earn royalties 369 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: from day one. 370 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: Only against the minimum guarantee. I don't receive. I earn it, 371 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: but I don't receive You don't. 372 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: Receive it until the minimum guarantee is met, correct, and 373 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 4: then you start you personally start to get paid or 374 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: whoever personally starts to get paid. So okay. So in 375 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 4: your opinion, why is that better than like actually starting 376 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: a shampool brisoness yourself. 377 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: Well, let me explain something. With licensing. I'm the one 378 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: hundred percent owner of the brand, so creatively and quality control. 379 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: Nothing moves without me. So it's one hundred percent owned 380 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: by afro Unicorn, which is owned by me. 381 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: So, but it's produced by somebody else. And right, so 382 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: it's produced by somebody else, You own it, but they 383 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 4: they'll get the majority profit because they're actually producing it. 384 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: They're putting all the money up, right in a sense. 385 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: In a sense, but like Kanye said, he lost twenty 386 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 2: seven million trying to do it the other one. No. 387 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 4: No, But I'm trying to educate the people. So I'm 388 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: not saying that that's a bad thing, but I'm saying, like, 389 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: why is that more beneficial to me? It was more 390 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: beneficial because obviously it's less overhead, right, and you don't 391 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: have to put the money out yourself. It's less risk 392 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: and you can scale quicker as opposed to you focus. 393 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 4: Like if you try to do everything yourself with one 394 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: particular product, that might take five years to get that 395 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: product off the ground, where now you can do thirty 396 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: different products. Right, but you have other people that's actually 397 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: putting up the money, doing all of the the labor 398 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: and stuff like that, So that allows you to move quicker. 399 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: So you're getting less money, but you're moving faster. 400 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: You could expand faster, and now you can really be 401 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: a CEO and market the business because once you're once 402 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: you have a warehouse and you're trying to you know, 403 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: you got fork lips and boxing and moving units and 404 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: this got to go out. And then also is capacity 405 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: because if you got a call today that that little 406 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: notebook that y'all have right there, the little sticker book. 407 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: Target ordered over a million of those, So it's also capacity. 408 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: So if someone called and said, I will I love 409 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: y'all shirts, I need y'all to deliver five hundred thousand 410 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: of them in two months. 411 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: Let me so as you were saying, I'm thinking to 412 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 6: myself on top of everything Shaty just said, because I 413 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 6: think those are all brilliant points as to why. 414 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 5: It makes sense. 415 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 6: It's a lot of times when we start businesses, we're 416 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 6: not ready to scale, right. We don't have the infrastructure, 417 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 6: we may not have the capital to scale. 418 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 5: Right. So you're saying that a video went viral. 419 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 6: A lot of times in our businesses, we go viral, 420 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 6: but we don't even have the inventory to match the demand. 421 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 6: Sorry for the unicorn, right, But in. 422 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 7: Your case, you don't even have to worry about that, right, 423 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 7: because they're going to match the demand because they're the 424 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 7: retailer that's providing the actual product. 425 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: Yes, not the retailer directly, but the licensee. Yes, licensee 426 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: is going to But one thing. When I build Afriancorn, 427 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: I built it to sell. I believe every business should 428 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 2: be built to sell, and there's certain things that you 429 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: have to set into place. I didn't know about licensing again, 430 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: so the only option that I knew because I knew 431 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: day one, twenty nineteen, I said, I've been recorded after 432 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: yourcorn wild be a household name in a worldwide brand. 433 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: I knew that from the beginning. I just didn't know 434 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: how it was going to happen. I thought the only 435 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: option at that time was to sell it to a 436 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: Mattel or to a Hasburrow. 437 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 4: Like. 438 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: I had no clue that Disney did not manufacture their 439 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: own products, that Marvel did not manufacture their own products, 440 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: no clue. I thought I had to sell it to 441 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: one of those guys in order to get it out there. 442 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: But hell, they're selling it to other people. Well, they're 443 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: renting it to other people. Basically, that's what licensing is. 444 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, what are you gonna say. 445 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna you brought up those two. 446 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: So I'm thinking to myself, at some point, if you 447 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 6: already knew I want to sell this thing, at some 448 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 6: point where you approached by those brands, because those are 449 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 6: the two largest toy companies that I know, Hasbro and Mattel. 450 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 6: Were you approached by them as they saw what was 451 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 6: happening inside of retail? 452 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: So again they're like me, they are intellectual properties. So 453 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 2: Hasboro is a toy company that I would do a 454 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: licensing deal with. Again, I didn't understand how they operated 455 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: to even know that that wasn't even really an option. Okay, So, 456 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: like we had conversations when we first launched with Nickelodeon 457 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: and they wanted to work on the animated series. Now 458 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: that's where it gets a little bit different. So like 459 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: Disney can come in and Nick can come in and say, hey, 460 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: we want to make this a series. What will happen? 461 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes in those deals you'll lose ownership. But so that's 462 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: not something we were interested in because Nick definitely wanted 463 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: the property in the beginning, but they knew that I 464 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: didn't want to lose any type of ownership in the brand. 465 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 6: So if they actually made an animated show about the character, 466 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 6: they own the IP of the character now or just 467 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 6: the show, because even if they have the show, don't 468 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 6: you still own the license for the products. 469 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: That's why I did not pull the trigger on it. 470 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: I figure if we build as much as we could 471 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: on our own, once we get to the table, there's 472 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: not much they can negotiate with as it relates to 473 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: owning the IP. They could only own the rights for 474 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: the animated series because we have too much product out 475 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: in the marketplace for you to own Afro Unicorn. 476 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: So you said you started with the attend to sell right, Yes, 477 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: so what you do early to set up systems in 478 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 4: place that you knew that you would be beneficial to 479 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: actually sell it? 480 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: On first thing trademark. A lot of people aren't prepared 481 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: because they don't own their products. And I knew from 482 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: the gate if I have to sell them, you can't 483 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: sell anything you do not own. So even if like 484 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: you're talking about viral moments, people could have them all 485 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 2: the time. But if you're not ready, I'm from LA 486 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: you stay ready, ain't got to get ready. Shout out 487 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: to sugar Free we side of Promona. But knowing that 488 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: in order for me to sell it, I have to 489 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: first own it. So my first step was, I know 490 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: this is gonna be big, I need to own it. 491 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: So it was the trademark. The first person I actually 492 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: hired was an accountant. I am terrified of going to prison, 493 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: so I'm like, I've heard too many stories of taxes. 494 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: So I got my account on from day one, just 495 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: to make sure the books were clean because I know 496 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: that's what they're going to want to look at to 497 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: see you know your numbers. And then I worked, I hustled. 498 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to get my numbers up so I could 499 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: make sure that there was a there was a valuation 500 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: for the company. And so that's what my focus was, 501 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: just to work hard and eventually someone was gonna notice, 502 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: and they did. They just showed me a different route 503 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 2: to get it. 504 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 6: So every time you added another vertical, another category, you're 505 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 6: adding to the valuation of the company. Is there a 506 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 6: number that you're looking to get to, Because we talk 507 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 6: about technology companies and we always hear, oh it's a 508 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 6: fifteen xt multiple, it's a ten x multiple in this category, 509 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 6: Like what is the multiple for this industry? And is 510 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 6: that the goal to build as many categories to have 511 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 6: that valuation go up. 512 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: So my goal is not to sell afric Unicorn. It's not. 513 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: We have opened up different legs and arms like African 514 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: Corn Entertainment where we will build the hotels and the 515 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: live location based entertainment like the family attraction centers, and 516 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: that is something that we want to get funding behind 517 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: and eventually sell and make that public. But the IP 518 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: itself will forever just be owned unless they come in 519 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: with one hundred billion. Then I'm like, okay, want to 520 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: be hundred bees. Because the thing about Afro Unicorn and 521 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: what I really believe in is that it is a 522 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: It's true. The reason why the buyers love it is 523 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: because it's organic, like we built this from the ground up. 524 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: It's not a major, major mass Sudio pushing it, and 525 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: it's really owned by a black person, and if you 526 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: remove me from the equation, it kind of just waters 527 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: down the brand, and I don't want that. 528 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 4: So you talked about Kanye and he became a billionaire 529 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 4: because of Yasy licensing deal with Adidas. He owns one 530 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: hundred percent of Yeasy, but it was distributed through Adidas, 531 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: and when Adidas dropped him, he lost four billion dollars 532 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: in his net worth right, So what does that speak 533 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 4: to as far as on a licensing side, did he 534 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 4: have a bad licensing deal? 535 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: One thousand percent? 536 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: Explain? 537 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: So, if I remember correctly, in his contract, he gave 538 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: up creative control, and which means in his contract he 539 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: also didn't have the language stated that anything that was 540 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: developed by the licensee was owned by the licensere. So 541 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: when I go to the table with my licensees and 542 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: like we're looking at haircare like bowls and stuff, right, 543 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: and they'll develop a different look of the unicorn, maybe 544 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 2: a different polls or a different pattern or something, I 545 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: still own it. So when they made any variation of 546 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: his product, they immediately grabbed ownership. I'm dealing with a 547 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: situation right now with the company not on the consumer 548 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: product side, but it's on a different side on the 549 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: production side. And I saw how in the beginning they 550 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: were trying to change the look of the unicorn and 551 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 2: trying to change a lot of things about the unicorn 552 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: because they wanted to own as much of the property 553 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: as they possibly could. So they probably tried to pull 554 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: that on him, and I believe he said something like 555 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: he don't read contracts, so. 556 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: Have there have there ever been any issues in terms 557 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: of trademarking. We're like when when I mean we come 558 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 5: from everywhere. 559 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 7: It was like it was my little pony right like 560 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 7: that that was and then it was I guess my 561 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 7: daughter kind of fell into this like Rainbow Dash and 562 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 7: all those things. And so have you come into contact 563 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 7: with with people trying to make a similar product or 564 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 7: similar trademark and how's that process been. 565 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: I did. It's hurtful for one, Like I take this 566 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: personal because what I we didn't talk about how I 567 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: started the whole, why Nipsey and Tupacer up here, like 568 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: how my arathon continues, How I have this ad gas 569 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: no breaks mentality that I launched this brand. My son 570 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: was in the hospital for twenty days. When he got out, 571 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: my favorite uncle died a massive heart attack. Seventeen hours later, 572 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: my uncle died. Six months later, my grandmother died, and 573 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: then we were in a global pandemic. I have a 574 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: lot of heart and soul into this brand. So when 575 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: someone tries to come out with their version of Afro Unicorn, 576 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: it's a serious problem. And so yeah, I had to 577 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: first I tried to ignore it. My thing was, I'm 578 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 2: just gonna work harder, Like, I'm just gonna outwork them. 579 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna outwork them, but it starts to become confusion 580 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: in the marketplace, and so the trademark attorney was like, April, 581 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: you have confusion in the marketplace because people were purchasing 582 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: this other brand believing that they were buying Afro Unicorn. 583 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: So then we had to take it to We had 584 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: to sue. Yeah, we had to the year. 585 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: Because it's domestic trademark or is it international as well? 586 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: Only some countries. You know, you have to trademarket in 587 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: every single country you go to. Right now, we're only 588 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: in the US and Canada, so we have to strategically 589 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: get to the other countries and we're working towards it. 590 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: But it's it definitely is a process. But this particular company, 591 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: it took us a year to get to to get 592 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: to a positive resolution that I'm still not really that 593 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: much happy with. But I'm back to my tham, I'm 594 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: just gonna outwork them, So. 595 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: So don't worry about the how. Yes, what does that mean? 596 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know how it was going to be. On 597 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: this interview with y'all, I knew it was gonna happen 598 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: because I saw it. So you have to as an 599 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs and well entrepreneurs, that's what we're speaking to. You 600 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: have to see the end goal what it is. I 601 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: knew African Crome is gonna be a household name in 602 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: a worldwide brand, point blank period. You couldn't tell me 603 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: that it wasn't. 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In order to walk, your brain 659 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: gotta tell your right foot to take the step right. 660 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 2: So I truly believe that before anything can happen, because 661 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: it already exists, and I prove it to you. I 662 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: know there's so many people out there that have seen 663 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: ideas that're like, dang, I had that idea because the 664 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: moment you thought about it, it already exists. The problem 665 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: is are you going to be there to see it through? 666 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: So I don't worry about the how once I see it, 667 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 2: and everybody knows this around me, they know it's April. 668 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: If April says it's going to happen, all money in, 669 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: all money in, that's a fact. 670 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 4: No money out. So are you using different companies for 671 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 4: like the licensing or is it the same company? 672 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: I have over forty five different licensees. Licensing is by category. 673 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: So there's a company that does underwear, handcraft, there's a 674 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: company that does apparel, mad Engine, every single category. When 675 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: you start going into stores, start flipping over those packages. 676 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 4: So how'd you find these companies? 677 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: Flip over the packages? And I literally was in the stores. 678 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: I would shoot pictures to a ski and be like, 679 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: this is who I'm gonna get on LinkedIn. I'm gonna 680 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: find this company and we're gonna find who handles licensing. 681 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: And then you reach out to them, yep, directly. 682 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: And then you so you negotiate with being that they 683 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 4: didn't reach out to you, you reached out to them. They 684 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: have more leverage in this situation, right. 685 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: Sometimes, But once you have Walmart. So my my spade 686 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 2: was Walmart, like that was my eightes. I have Walmart. 687 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: And once you know you have the attention of Walmart, 688 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: their antennas are up. Okay because everyone wants to get 689 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: in Walmart. And people I know look at Walmart like 690 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: it's Walmart because we don't really shop at Walmart. I know, 691 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: it's not a big thing here in New York. But 692 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 2: for retail, they are the god. Walmart is the god 693 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 2: the retail and if you can't get your like everyone 694 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: it used to be is different now, but they're like, 695 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 2: in order for a property to be successful, it has 696 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: to be in Walmart. 697 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 4: But so the relationship with Walmart is for every product 698 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: that you have, for one product, we have. 699 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 2: About fifteen categories at Walmart. 700 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 4: So explain that deal though. So you go to Walmart 701 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 4: and they're like, Okay, We're going to give you open 702 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 4: range for a variety of different whatever you want. 703 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: Every category has a buyer. So even at Walmart. Walmart 704 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: is located in Bentonville, Arkansas, and I want to say 705 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: they probably have shoot out. They own the city, like 706 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: that's how many campuses they have, and every single category 707 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 2: like that button there, there's a button. 708 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,479 Speaker 4: Buyer, So you got to go pitch to them. 709 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: You have to pitch the actual buyer. So this is 710 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 2: what happened for us. When the buyer that brought us 711 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: in for party supplies. I remember that Hot Topic had 712 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: reached out to me the spring before, right, and I 713 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: didn't respond to them because when they told me the 714 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: royalty rate, I was like, that don't make no sense. 715 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm making more on my own, like I'm not doing that, 716 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 2: And I didn't really respond. I just let it hang. 717 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: They came back around the same time. Walmart came to 718 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: me and they said, hey, you never you know, rolled 719 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: this back. You didn't complete the contract. I said, okay, 720 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: hold on. I went back to the buyer Walmart. I said, 721 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: Hot Topic is interested in the after Unicorn product, which 722 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 2: was apparel at the time. I said, I wanted to 723 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: let you know before I respond to them, and her 724 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: response was, wait a minute, give me to Monday. She 725 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: then sent the email out to all of her friend 726 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: buyers to tell them about this property after Unicorn, so 727 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 2: then they reached out to me, and I didn't have 728 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 2: Like when the fruit snacks got reached out, I didn't 729 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 2: have a fruit snacks manufacturer at the time. But you know, 730 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 2: stay ready, you ain't got to get ready. So I 731 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: went to the store and I flipped th some fruit 732 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: snacks to find out who could I work with. But 733 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: that's how it works. And again, it sounds complicated, but 734 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: it only sounds complicated because it sounds so easy. So 735 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: you're like, it can't be that easy. It is once 736 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: you have the information on how it actually works. But 737 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: every single category has a buyer. And what you were 738 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: saying is when I reached out to the on LinkedIn, 739 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 2: So true. I'm very very strategic. I'm a marketing genius. 740 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: So I knew when Walmart brought us in with party supplies, 741 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: and then Apparel came in. We met with a Parel 742 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: buyer and she immediately was like, I'm ordering this for 743 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: all doors, one hundred thousand units. It's needed. So I knew. 744 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: I had Party, which you had two licensees. Apparel had 745 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 2: three licensees, and I think Party pulled in like cups 746 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: or something, So we have four we were meeting with again, 747 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 2: so agents were coming to try to meet with us, 748 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: and I would listen to what they were saying, like, 749 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: I didn't understand how why we need to pay y'all 750 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 2: X amount of percentage for bringing business that we have Walmart. 751 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 4: Like. 752 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 2: So they're like, well, we're gonna do a press release. 753 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, what, I could do a press release? So 754 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 2: that's what we did. We did a press release to 755 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 2: the licensing trades that said we couldn't say Walmart. We 756 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: just said new property is set to launch in one 757 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 2: of the largest retailers. Everybody know who's the largest retailer 758 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: and this is their property out for unicoranties are the partners. 759 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: So once that went out on the trades, there's like 760 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: six six magazines in that trade. They all read it 761 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: and then they started to reach out. And the ones 762 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: that didn't reach out are the ones that went to 763 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: the store and started flipping over packages to let them know, 764 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 2: and then they just verified us with their cousin and 765 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: uncle because they all know each other. It's a real 766 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 2: small knit community. 767 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 768 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 7: So in terms of because we spoke about twenty million 769 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 7: in sales, do you have a say, in the price 770 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 7: points for each of the items in the categories, How 771 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 7: does that work or does the retail decide this is 772 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 7: the price point we're going to put it out. 773 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 2: The margins decide to the retail. The Walmart they have 774 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: at a dollar amount that they don't want to go 775 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: over because they are the low cost leader. 776 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 7: And so in terms of the sales then, is that 777 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 7: they are obviously tracking the sales you have. 778 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 5: Privy to that. How was that first. 779 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 7: Year when you were in the retail, right, because you're 780 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 7: talking about this is quick twenty nineteen we launched obviously 781 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 7: the pandemic. 782 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 5: You know what happens with Jeordan Spoyd. They're looking for 783 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 5: products twenty twenty two year in the stores. This is 784 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 5: three years. How are we looking in that first year? 785 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 2: It was five million from July to December. Wow, fifteen 786 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: million last year. 787 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 4: So when they buyt a product, they're buying it it's 788 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 4: on consignment or they're just buying it, and then they're 789 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 4: buying it for a certain price, and then they're just 790 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 4: selling it for whatever price that they want and then 791 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 4: they get the product on that. 792 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: So Walmart buys it from the licensee at whatever the 793 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 2: the price costs over. So like let's say that plush 794 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: cost the manufacturer a dollar twenty five to make, they'll 795 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,959 Speaker 2: probably sell it to Walmart for two seventy five, and. 796 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 4: Then Walmart sells it for five dollars and keeps the difference. 797 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm actually when I say twenty million, I'm 798 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 2: giving you the price that we're selling it to the retailer, 799 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: not the manu not not the actual sales price at 800 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 2: the retailer store. That's a whole that's higher, that's way higher. 801 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 4: But you're not included in that. You're included in it. 802 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 3: Ok. 803 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so would the price be the same. Like 804 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 4: let's say this for instance, right, you sell this outside 805 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 4: of Walmart or only in Walmart? 806 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: We can we sell it outside on a website. I 807 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 2: think that's a store called Kangi and some other stores 808 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: it pops up at. 809 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 4: Is it the same price everywhere or it's Walmart's price. 810 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 2: Walmart always wants to be the low priced leader. So 811 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 2: even with my hair care line, like we always got 812 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 2: to make sure even if it's one penny less, that 813 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 2: Walmart is a low price leader. 814 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 5: So you can sell it for four ninety nine, but 815 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 5: they can sell it for four eighty nine. 816 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, are their product exclusivities inside of the other space. 817 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: So when we first launched with Party with Walmart, they 818 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 2: asked just as a courtesy, there's nothing in writing that 819 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 2: we gave them a six months exclusivity. I knew it 820 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 2: was game time when the buyer came to me and said, April, 821 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 2: you need to get this out to different retailers, because 822 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: they truly if you're smart, you believe that you understand 823 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 2: that competition it's healthy. That's why I don't know how 824 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: it is out here, but in La every Chick fil 825 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: A you see now they're building a raisin Canes directly 826 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:58,479 Speaker 2: across the street. Every McDonald's has a burger king, Every 827 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 2: Starbucks is a coffee bean. Competition is healthy. 828 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 4: So what's the scaling model for your brands? Is it 829 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 4: more corporate partnerships like Walmart? Is it online presidence? What's 830 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 4: what do you look for as far as like you know, 831 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 4: taken to next level? 832 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 2: Well, definitely expanding in retail, But what's really going to 833 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 2: help the brand is the production deals that we're going 834 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 2: to get out of this because we have to have 835 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 2: the content. We're the only licensed character that doesn't have 836 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: the actual show behind it. So we are working on 837 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 2: my show, Miss April's Book and Crown Shop Crown Store. 838 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: But then the location based entertainment, so the hotels, the 839 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 2: we want Chuck E cheesus. We want to franchise out 840 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 2: our own Afronia places. 841 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 4: So you own you own this unicorn. You own a 842 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: black unicorn. 843 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: Afro Unicorn. I gotta be very careful with that because 844 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 2: that was the problem Afro. 845 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 4: There's a black unicorn already. 846 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 2: Let's focus on Afro Unicorn. No, it was African Carl 847 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 2: was always the original Afro Unicorn. 848 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 5: Yes, so we're black unicorns. 849 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 4: So this, this, this image of this is what you're own. Yes, 850 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 4: and this could be in a cartoon, a movie, whatever. 851 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 4: Afro Unicorn. 852 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: Yes. 853 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 7: And then when you're talking about the retail space is 854 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 7: instant because I'm thinking Nintendo created Nintendo World, right, So. 855 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I got excited because I forgot to tell you 856 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 2: about them stickers right there because we're talking gaming now, 857 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 2: you don't even see it. Pull those stickers out. We 858 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: launched our roadblocks. We have a full Roadblocks experience. 859 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 5: Yes, because I was going that's where I was going. 860 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 6: I'm like, now, if it becomes the Afro Unicorn World 861 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 6: where now you can see the characters, see them come 862 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 6: to life. 863 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 5: The other part is that are you because we have 864 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 5: three unicorns, are we introducing more unicorns? 865 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, so even in the books now, so we 866 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 2: have we even have boys. We have our Afrosaurus line, 867 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 2: we have Rex, we have Sore, we have Madame Empress, 868 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 2: we have Superior Majestic. Again, I just dropped the sixth 869 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 2: book yesterday, So we are telling the stories of the 870 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 2: unicorns for sure. 871 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 4: How dodes Nipsy also come into play here? He said 872 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 4: that was motivation or something. Yeah. 873 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 2: So Nipsey died March thirtieth March thirty first, thirty first, 874 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, Africa. Acorn's birthdate was April twenty nineteen. So 875 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: he definitely resonated with me with what he was building 876 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: for us. And he was really all about the knowledge 877 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 2: and the information, and once you have that information, you 878 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 2: were supposed to go out and you're supposed to share 879 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 2: it so that you could put somebody else on. I 880 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 2: took it really, really hard, but I also took it 881 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 2: like I gotta I gotta carry what's it called the 882 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: little torch thing? Was it when you were in a mirror, 883 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: you know, the the relay, the baton. I got to 884 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 2: keep it going. And so my whole theme when I 885 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 2: brought When My Birth after Your in Corner On April 886 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 2: twenty eighth, I had a table similar to this with 887 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 2: folding cheers around, and I invited twenty five women to 888 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 2: my house and I said, we're building, We're building a platform, 889 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 2: or we're going to pour into each other to help 890 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: support your visions, to find out what you're passionate about, 891 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 2: so we could find out how we commodetize what you're 892 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: passionate about. Those that had businesses, I purchased from them 893 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 2: to give to the other ladies. And I have volding 894 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: cheers because there was a quote that said if they 895 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 2: don't bring you, if you don't get to see at 896 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 2: a table, you bring your own folding chair. I had 897 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: Nipsey playing. I'm like, you know, we're about to continue 898 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 2: this marathon. We're building something. And I remember that day 899 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: they were like, you know, volunteers, everyone was living in 900 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 2: it goes what's the Instagram account so I can tag you? 901 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 2: And I'm like, huh, I didn't even have Instagram. I 902 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 2: just wanted to start this movement. And then my son 903 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 2: went into the hospital a few days later, so then 904 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 2: we could back up a little bit to talk about 905 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: the nipsey and I remember I had a date to 906 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 2: launch the e commerce business on May seventeenth. When he 907 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: went in the hospital on May eleventh, I was like, 908 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: I can't launch the business. And three separate people came 909 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 2: in three separate times. Was like, hey, I know the 910 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 2: devil was trying to distract you from launching what you 911 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: was trying to do. You gotta move forward. First person, 912 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: I was like, no, he just got food poison. Then 913 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 2: we're gonna be out of here soon. So I kept disregarding, disregarding, 914 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 2: until finally I was like, Okay, I don't know how 915 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. I got an eight year old 916 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 2: the hospital. My twelve year old is at home. I 917 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 2: don't have anybody to really watch him. He can't stay 918 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 2: in the hospital. I can't leave my baby. My mom 919 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: wasn't around, my daddy was in his eighties. What do 920 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 2: I do? Marathon must continue all gas, no breaks. I'm 921 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 2: a state farm agent. I had a policy that allowed 922 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: me to have it's called hospital indemnity, that paid me 923 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 2: every day he was in the hospital. So I hired 924 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 2: an assistant while I was in the hospital to go 925 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 2: downtown to get the shirts to fulfill the oars. I said, 926 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 2: because clearly, if all this is coming at me, it's 927 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 2: coming at me because something way bigger is about to 928 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 2: really happen. So I really got to push forward on this. 929 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 2: We were there twenty whole days. They ran every test 930 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 2: that they could on my baby. Just to give you 931 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 2: an idea, his life pace number should have been like 932 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 2: under two hundred. He was at seventeen thousand. So we 933 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 2: were in a critical situation that no one could figure out. 934 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: We get out of the hospital on May thirtieth. May 935 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 2: thirty first, my uncle dies of a massive heart attack. 936 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: Seventeen hours later, my other uncle dies of pneumonia, and 937 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 2: my cousin kept reminding me who it was, her father. April, 938 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: the marathon continues, like, we cannot let this distract us, 939 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 2: and so I take it personal when they come for 940 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 2: the West, because one thing about us, for show, it's 941 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 2: always going to be all gas, no breaks. Even if 942 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 2: you look at us as the underdog, we gonna always 943 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 2: find a way to you know. 944 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 5: Not like us. 945 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. I didn't say it, you did, and we 946 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 2: built different. 947 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody the West. You know, I got 948 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 4: a lot of French out to stick watch. I was 949 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 4: telling him, like, it's interesting because the West coast, right, 950 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 4: it's literally like California alone is like would be essentially 951 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:38,479 Speaker 4: Boston to North Carolina. Right, So the West coast it's 952 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 4: kind of it's like the South does this too, Like 953 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 4: it's a lot of states that kind of like encompass this, right, Yeah, 954 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 4: but you never hit that on the East coast, it's 955 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 4: just New York like this, no, no, no, But so the 956 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 4: West coast like, yeah, it's like a voltron, right, but is. 957 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 5: It even that? 958 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 7: It's like is it really the West coast or is 959 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 7: it it's l A, it's. 960 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 4: L A in the bank. Yeah, we're not the West. 961 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 4: I mean, no disrespect Arizona, San Diego. 962 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 5: Who's an artist though, bro, Like huh, I can't name artist. 963 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 4: No, just I'm saying just there. 964 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's a territory. 965 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 4: It's very territorial. 966 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 5: But I've never seen it disunited. I'm happy to see it. 967 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 4: But it's not an attack. I don't think nobody's ever 968 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 4: attacked the West coast in history, right, who's ever attacked 969 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,280 Speaker 4: the West Coast, Like, who's ever attacked the West Coast? 970 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 2: What do you mean like physically there's been. 971 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,959 Speaker 4: So many know what I'm saying, like as far as 972 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 4: like attack, like there's no verbal attacks on the West 973 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 4: Coast ever. 974 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 5: Ever, Yeah, I thought he was going back to camp. 975 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: There was never there was never an East Coast West Coast. 976 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 4: No, that's that's a narrative, that's the vibe. 977 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 5: Actually purpose they put that on the copy. 978 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 4: That was that was that was Tupac Tupac vmently dis 979 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 4: East Coast. But Biggie never dissed the West Coast. He said, 980 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 4: I'm going back to Kelly was going back like it 981 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 4: was never it all. 982 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 2: It's all you're saying, it's. 983 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 4: All of it. It was never. It was never any 984 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 4: if it might be one particular artist that they have 985 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 4: an issue with, but it was never like it's. 986 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,919 Speaker 7: The whole moment. There's never been an issue. Yeah, man, 987 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 7: if you if you consider fifty in game, but that's different. 988 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very different. But I'm talking about the mentality 989 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 2: that we have. 990 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 4: You're like you look at yourselves as underdogs or under like, 991 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 4: not not as respected as you should be. 992 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 2: I mean, you got your man's here saying your wild 993 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 2: saying you know when when you when you fight low 994 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 2: or fight under or fight whatever you said today some 995 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 2: some cath. 996 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 5: I could have just put the Good Kid, Good Kid 997 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 5: Mass City album. We just could have completed this whole thing. 998 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 2: But for us, or at least for me, for Nip, 999 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 2: for Katt, it's all like we see brick Wall, we 1000 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 2: see Drake with all his gimmicks. It means we go 1001 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 2: right through them because we're not surface. It's one of 1002 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: my favorite songs. A Nip is Real and I. 1003 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 4: Yeah the whole thing. Yeah, that is one of. 1004 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 2: My favorite because it embodied young young young Yeah yeah 1005 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 2: no no no no no, didn't I say it wrong? 1006 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,919 Speaker 4: Young No no no no. 1007 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 8: Real rap rap rap rap, rap and words rap and 1008 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 8: words rap and. 1009 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 2: Work those lyrics. 1010 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 5: The video was solid to. 1011 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 2: It resonates because we're just different. 1012 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 5: We jigg in thevests. That sounds like. 1013 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 4: Inspired inspiration. But for the reason why, you know, I 1014 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 4: think he's not getting Californ like I always I always 1015 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 4: like California. 1016 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 5: Are you trying to like clear not New York though? 1017 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 2: No, nosriy no. 1018 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 4: So the mind frame is kind of like, you know, 1019 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 4: for the entrepreneurs, for the hostels. Like I feel like 1020 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 4: Cali has always been it's separated, right, it's on the 1021 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 4: other side of America. So you kind of feel like 1022 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 4: it's a chip on your shoulder, right, like you gotta 1023 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 4: actually put on because it's not East Coast, it's not Atlanta, 1024 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 4: it's not New York City. So it's like I feel 1025 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 4: I just feel that, especially like now, I just feel 1026 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 4: like that that West Coast pride is like, you know, 1027 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 4: it stands out. It's like Brooklyn. It's like Brooklyn. Like 1028 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 4: people from Brooklyn have like a sense of pride that 1029 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 4: is different. Like you ask anybody else where they're from, 1030 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 4: and they'll say, like New York, like somebody from Queen, 1031 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 4: somebody from the Bronx, somebody from Manhattan, they'll say that 1032 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 4: from New York. You ask somebody from Brooklyn where they're from, 1033 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 4: they'll say Brookland. So it's like every other sports team 1034 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 4: is the New York Giants, it's the New York Jets, 1035 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 4: it's the New York Mets, it's the New York Yankees. 1036 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,479 Speaker 4: But it's the Brooklyn Nets. That's the only sports team 1037 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 4: that identifies. 1038 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,760 Speaker 5: As the Brooklyn Dodgers. 1039 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, But so I feel like that West Coast, 1040 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 4: that West thing started here. You know that West Coast pride. 1041 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 4: That West Coast pride is similar to that right where 1042 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 4: it's like West West West up like it's like the West, 1043 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 4: that West is heavy on their pride. 1044 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 6: I want to tie it back in right, because all 1045 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 6: we're talking about now is really marketing. He says, you're 1046 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 6: a marketing genius. Social media played a huge role. That's 1047 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 6: something that we can resonate with. How has the marketing 1048 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 6: plan changed adapted to present day from twenty nineteen. 1049 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 2: So the model that we had in twenty nineteen was 1050 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: I highlighted you my platform, So if you was rocking 1051 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 2: the afric Unicorn shirt, I would talk about what makes 1052 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 2: Troy unique, divine and magical, why you should check in 1053 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 2: to earn your leisure, why you should follow what he 1054 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 2: got going on. When people saw, they're like, oh, if 1055 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 2: I get her shirt, she's gonna talk about my brand. 1056 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 2: So not only did I get the followers, I got 1057 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 2: to sell So we built That's how we continue to 1058 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 2: build the platform highlighting other people. Now it's more of 1059 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 2: highlighting the children who want to be brand ambassadors and influencers. 1060 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 2: Because I've never paid anyone to Rock or support Africa 1061 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: in a corner. All the celebrities that I name, they 1062 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: do it because they believe in the messaging. I find 1063 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: people where the brand will resonate with you to where 1064 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 2: you just got to do it because you want to 1065 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 2: be part of this movement. The thing that we have 1066 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 2: to triple x now is when I tell y'all, I 1067 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 2: compete against Disney, Marvel and Nick. Every single week they 1068 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 2: drop reports like if we're in party supplies, you got Batman, 1069 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 2: Disney Princess Spider Man is over there, Lol, And we 1070 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 2: get reports and they're like, after Unicorn, out of the 1071 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 2: nine properties, you're at the bottom. Well, of course, Sherlock. 1072 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 2: They've been here fifty plus years. They got billion dollar budgets. 1073 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 2: So now we have to be very strategic on how 1074 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 2: we market. We got to work on getting content on 1075 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 2: the marketplace, got to get our YouTube. But we have 1076 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 2: to We just spent a ton of money developing our 1077 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 2: Amazon store. We're gonna spend a lot of money developing 1078 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 2: our Walmart store on the digital side. With a lot 1079 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 2: of money to get into roadblocks, like, we have to 1080 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: find other ways to try to compete against a billion. 1081 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, they got the shows, they got the movies, they 1082 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 6: got a streaming service. 1083 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 2: And that's why platforms like this matters because I'm now 1084 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 2: able to tap into y'all one point five million followers 1085 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 2: to say, hey, go support this brand because I'll tell 1086 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 2: you the DEI is dry. It was just a George Floyd, 1087 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: just the moment. 1088 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 4: Did you did you benefit from that? 1089 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how they brought the break. I feel like I. 1090 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 4: Did after George Floyd. 1091 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 5: Heck yeah, they're looking. 1092 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 2: For but that we all did. I think if you 1093 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 2: had an e commerce brand during that time, everybody was like, 1094 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 2: support black businesses, we want to support Black Tuesday and 1095 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 2: all that blackout? 1096 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 4: And then and when did you start to see it 1097 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 4: fading away? 1098 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 2: What last last summer? It lasted like two years. 1099 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 4: Countries back to business, regularly scheduled programming. 1100 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 5: I hope you guys have fun. 1101 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 4: Yep, so what we're about to say home. 1102 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 2: But you have to make sure. So the one that's 1103 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,919 Speaker 2: the difference, that's the mindset that I have. I'm gonna 1104 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 2: max it out. Your problem was letting me in the door. 1105 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 2: You ain't gonna be able to give me out. 1106 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 5: How many different options did they have to choose from? 1107 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 2: Right? 1108 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 5: Because if they're looking for a character of the license. 1109 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 7: Was is there a lot of competition or was it 1110 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 7: just the right time, at the right place we have 1111 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 7: this thing already, or did you see the influx of 1112 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,479 Speaker 7: Oh I didn't even realize that there were other people 1113 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 7: that looked like me that had characters. 1114 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 2: I think the first part. Did you say the right time, 1115 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: right place? And the buyer because I'm really good friends 1116 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 2: the buyer. Now, she told me that I saw how 1117 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 2: organic it was behind you, so that's why she chose 1118 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Afro Unicorn. But now that we're in this space, I 1119 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 2: hit people hit me up with my dms all the time. 1120 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 2: I have this character, I have this book. I want 1121 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: to get it, you know, into products. How do I 1122 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 2: do it? I'm learning more so I tell everybody, look 1123 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: follow me. I am Aprilshowers dot Com. I'm whatever information 1124 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 2: I have, I want to share it with y'all. We 1125 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: have the licensing expo. The problem is information, right, like 1126 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 2: I said from the beginning, So we don't even know 1127 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 2: that these things exist. So you sitting at home with 1128 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 2: a character that you have, but then you like, but 1129 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 2: how do I get it out there? You got to 1130 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 2: come to the licensing next pot when is that that's 1131 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 2: in Vegas May week of May Twentieth's your event? No, No, 1132 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 2: it's your industry. Industry event Licensing exits every every year, 1133 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 2: every year in Vegas, and they also have one in London, 1134 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 2: the bl But I try to find out every single 1135 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 2: show if it's if it directly affects my industry. I 1136 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: need to be in the building. 1137 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 5: What's the audience look like? Predominantly whatever YEA said? Yeah, them, 1138 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 5: they are an attendance. 1139 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 4: So how'd you get into motivational speaking? 1140 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 2: Probably Saturday, Small Business Saturday. When I started in twenty nineteen, 1141 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 2: Every Saturday, I would go live on my platform just 1142 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 2: encouraging other female entrepreneurs to get out there and get it. 1143 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: And I would bring professionals on the podcast with them 1144 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 2: to talk to them. And I just want to share information. 1145 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 2: I believe in zig Ziggler's if you help enough people 1146 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 2: get to where they want to be, you'll get to 1147 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 2: where you need to be. So I just believe they're 1148 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 2: pouring into people. The university is gonna open up, and 1149 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 2: everything's gonna fall into my lap. I told you I 1150 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 2: was with oprahly yesterday, right to live my lap. So 1151 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 2: I just I put things out there to help people 1152 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,440 Speaker 2: and it just comes back. So why not. That's how 1153 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 2: I got into motivation speaking because I want to help people. 1154 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 4: So you still have your insurance practice. I do, and 1155 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 4: it's property and casualty insurance. 1156 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 2: It's State Farm. 1157 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 5: We do it. 1158 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 2: Do it all. 1159 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 4: You have your own State Farm agency or you work 1160 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 4: State Farm agent. So explain talked about that business. 1161 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Interesting. I wanted to talk about this, So I'm happy 1162 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 2: you Broughady back. So State Farmed the model, and I 1163 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 2: hope I'm getting in trouble about this. So the model 1164 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 2: with State Farm is independent contractor. Right. You have to 1165 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 2: find your own building, get your ownmployees, do your own marketing. 1166 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm very thankful to Stay Farmed because I learned how 1167 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 2: to do global marketing through them. Like if you look 1168 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 2: at State Farm, every every NBA court goal is State Farm, 1169 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: every any baseball MLB, the big banner state Farm, Like 1170 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 2: we are a marketing they are a marketing beast, right, 1171 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 2: and I learned how to tap into their global marketing. 1172 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 2: To my little small office in Long Beach, Right, I 1173 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 2: would run ads on radio with Steve Harvey was really 1174 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 2: promo promoting State Farm corporate wise, and i would run 1175 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: my local ad. People call me. Yeah, Steve Harvey was 1176 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 2: talking about your agency. I'm like, he was. So the 1177 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 2: problem with State Farm, though, is if I die, they 1178 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 2: gonna find somebody else to to to sit in that seat. 1179 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 2: So when I was at home thinking about how am 1180 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 2: I going to live live, leave a legacy for my children, 1181 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 2: I said, I have to figure something else out. I 1182 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 2: have to create something that I actually own. So it 1183 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 2: was really me understanding that I did own State Farm, 1184 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 2: that I needed to figure something else out. And I 1185 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 2: read an article and Lemonade stand where it say you 1186 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 2: should never rely on one source to dictate your livelihood 1187 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 2: and it taught us about shopify in an e commerce business. 1188 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 2: I was like, I got this unicorn, that's throw it 1189 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 2: on the shirt and see what to do. 1190 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 6: Powerful testimony. You spoke about legacy, got two sons. Obviously, 1191 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 6: how are they viewing this this? I mean we could 1192 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 6: call it success, but how they view in this moment 1193 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 6: watching you go from obviously twenty nineteen stage farm to 1194 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 6: now having afro unicorn and where it's headed. 1195 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 2: They are loving it. The youngest thirteen doesn't truly understand 1196 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 2: everything I talked to me yesterday. I say Hey, I 1197 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 2: sent you that picture of Oprah. You didn't say nothing. 1198 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 4: He was like yeah. 1199 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 2: I said, well do you know where? He was like nah, 1200 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 2: but madea told me all about her congratulation. I said, well, 1201 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 2: thank you. But then Jesse is all in the business. 1202 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 2: He's been like tapped in state farms. In real estate days, 1203 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 2: people know they can call on Jesse before they even 1204 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 2: call me. He was looking up properties for people for 1205 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 2: me and he's going out to He's going off to LSU. 1206 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna do, because he's definitely 1207 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 2: been full force in this business. Me and him have 1208 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 2: a special bond. I have a special I'm thirteen year old, 1209 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 2: but Jesse's part of a different relationship. During the time 1210 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 2: of my life where I discovered I was a unicorn, 1211 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 2: where I was basically told that I wouldn't be nothing, 1212 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 2: and I was told that in order for me to 1213 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 2: be successful, to be with a certain person, I would 1214 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 2: have to leave after Unicorn alone. And I chose after 1215 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 2: Unicorn over the certain person. And here we are today. 1216 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 4: So how can people follow? What's the website and everything 1217 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 4: else that you got going on? 1218 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 2: Follow on afric Unicorn Undersquare Official tap in with me 1219 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 2: got April Showers the websites afrounicorn dot com. If you 1220 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 2: want to get motivated and join my dream Manifestors collective 1221 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 2: for free, let just give foul free information. That said, 1222 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 2: I am Aprilshowers dot com and y'all shop because I'm 1223 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 2: gonna tell y'all they don't really care about us, like 1224 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 2: MJ said, So if afri Unicorn does not do well 1225 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 2: in retail, they will not let another one in. Again. 1226 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm competing against legacy brands that have been there between 1227 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 2: fifty and one hundred years, and it's me. I'm here 1228 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 2: now right. If we don't make it, it's gonna be 1229 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 2: very difficult. There was another black character brand, not FEMA own, 1230 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 2: the Male Own that was on the shelves, and you 1231 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: can't even find them anymore. 1232 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 5: Do you have this license in perpetuity? Yeah? 1233 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 7: Because I mean it made me think of I know, 1234 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 7: Disney there was a case where the license for Mickey 1235 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 7: Mouse was coming up and they had to try to. 1236 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 5: Figure out how they're going to renew it. 1237 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure that they will, but it just made 1238 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 6: me think of the perpetuity so important, and it took them. 1239 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,919 Speaker 2: They took walk. I think the family seventy five years 1240 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 2: before they went public. It was a long time before 1241 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 2: they went public. 1242 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. 1243 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 4: And yeah, shout out to the west Man's fast. 1244 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 5: We had it. 1245 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 4: Back to Callis songs were sure for sure. Thank you guys, 1246 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 4: rocks to see you next week. Peace. 1247 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 5: Peace. 1248 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 1249 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. 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