WEBVTT - Drive Time: Darren Waller Trade, Jordan Phillips Interview, NFC South Preview 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:13.200 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. What is up Dolphins? 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.360 And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.600 Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, we keep it rolling 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.279 here with summer School. We have another Dolphins interview. Jordan 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.639 Phillips joins me for a conversation that I tried to 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.320 get him to talk about anything but football a couple 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.920 of times, but that's not where his brain wants to go. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.000 All ball with Jordan Phillips. Plus, we're gonna preview the 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.199 NFC South on today's podcast, a division the Dolphins will 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.840 face this year against the Panthers, Falcons, Saints, and Buccaneers 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.120 from the Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.960 This is the Draft Time Podcast, Aye Daffe. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.239 And for the second straight episode here this week, we 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.280 are recutting the podcast and adding an additional segment here because 0:00:56.280 --> 0:01:00.360 the Dolphins have made yet another June July trade. Since 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.480 when is this time of year involve this much roster movement. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.800 It's the first time I can recall it, I think ever, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.240 I mean I don't recall a trade or multiple trades 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.960 possibly bigger than this one. Per reports from Tom PELLISERL 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.440 We're still in that world right now. Hasn't become totally 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.880 official yet, but the rumors are, or the reports are, 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.720 it'll be a late round conditional pickswap to get new 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.640 Dolphins tight end Darren Waller. What I'm seeing today as 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.400 I re record, this is a conditional sixth round from Miami, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.760 a seventh round pick from the Giants coming back and 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.039 Darren Waller. So very low risk and just like that 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.120 my discussion on the Tuesday podcast. But potential landscape shift 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.600 in the offense maybe goes belly up, maybe not. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:42.319 We'll see. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.800 It's a late round conditional pick swap with a minimal 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.360 financial investment. So I'm not going to rever stamp the 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.360 idea that my comments were totally off base, and in fact, 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.920 if because of that, you could almost say it's merely 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.559 an insurance policy of sorts for the Tanner Connor Jalen 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.280 Conyers potential idea of having them hit the ground running 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.760 this year and being your reduced f role that you 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.120 had from John new Smith last year. I still contend 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.680 that the offense, when playing the way it wants to, 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.840 will not involve the tight end the way it did 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.880 a season ago. And I really don't think this is 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.720 an offense. It's conducive to a big slot for a 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.120 big chunk of offensive work, which is kind of what 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.760 Darren Waller is now. If that's a role player and 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.160 you're reduced it down to maybe even less than what 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.800 Gasiki was for the Bengals last year, A forty six 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.040 percent snap taker, maybe you call it thirty three percent. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.480 You know he plays fifteen twenty snaps a game. Then 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.160 I think I could see that, and I think between Waller, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.480 Connor and Conyers, you should be able to find that 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.760 if that's what you're going for. I could be wrong, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.880 because I was wrong about this literally twenty four hours ago. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.040 So another move here during my paternity to leave. Let's 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.960 go ahead and watch a little bit of tape, and 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.480 first off, what a story Waller is right, and certainly 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.400 not all stun china rainbows. I think a lot of 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.359 you will ask why did he retire? Why is he back? 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:00.000 All of that stuff? 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.560 And I wrote down that I didn't want to speculate 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.600 on the reasons for retiring, But I did find a 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.800 clip where he talks about this on John Gruden's podcast 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.080 of All Places, where the moment he decided to retire 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.679 was a game in Buffalo back in twenty twenty three 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.119 where he was doing a lot of blocking and thought, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.240 what the hell am I doing playing fullback out here? 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.840 So I decided I'm going to finish out the year 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.360 strong and then I'm done. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.079 And he was right. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.959 He was done, So probably don't really need to get 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.720 heavily into the blocking reel. But he did say on 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.040 that same podcast the only two coaches he would come 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.280 back and play for were John Gruden and Frank Smith, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.080 the two guys that he played with in Oakland slash 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.800 Las Vegas. But we will get further answers on all 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.280 of that when Darren does his first media at Dolphins camp. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.680 But I'm sure most of you were aware of his story. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:50.160 Struggled with addiction, found recovery, had twenty three hundred and 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.320 fifty yards and twelve touchdowns over two seasons with the Raiders. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.040 Frank Smith there, so there's a relationship with him. Then 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.160 he gets hurt in twenty one again in twenty two 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.240 and dips down to six hundred and sixty five and 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.720 then three hundred and thirty eight yards in those two seasons, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.560 moves on to the Giants five hundred and fifty two 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.840 yards playing twelve games. It's not bad, and then retires 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.760 ahead of the twenty four season. So I'm like, do 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.080 I watch twenty three Giants tape or twenty twenty Raiders tape? 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.240 I guess, do a little bit of both. But then 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.479 I pull it up and guess what. You can't isolate 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.880 Darren Waller on NFL Pro because they wipe out retired players. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.640 So I had to cobble this thing together, and here's 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.320 what I got. And granted this might all be irrelevant 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.720 because this is old hat. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.160 He hasn't played football. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.400 In over a year, but at his peak, incredibly nimble, 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.120 super light on his feet, and you see that in 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.000 his various releases offline a scrimmage from various alignments. They 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.880 would condense him inside to a nasty split where you're 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.839 not quite attached but you're right close to the tackle 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.920 there or even being attached as a true classic wide 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.479 tied end. And the way he could widen a backer 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.720 to set up an inside release, or just run the 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.920 shoot route to the perimeter, or run right past them 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.320 down the seam, stack them, make a move at the 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.360 top of the route and go catch the foot ball. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.760 It's easy to see why he was legit one of 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.200 the toughest matchups in the NFL, tied under otherwise for 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.599 a couple of years, because you sneak a cornerback down there, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.040 you're playing in a deficit. You try using a backer 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.880 or safety and you're giving up the vertical matchability and 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.440 his skill set to high point the football and corral 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.159 throws above the rim was really second to none. Like 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.760 I think about that Kasiki touchdown in Baltimore in the 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.000 comeback in the back of the end zone, like he 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.359 can do that. He also did work as the backside 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.880 X receiver And if you run him out there, if 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.160 it's vintage Waller with Reagan waddle to the field as 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.400 the two receivers to the wide side, where do you 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.240 think the safety help is going to go? So then 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.480 you give two of this one on one backside matchup 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.560 with a guy that's going to play above the rim 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.120 six foot five and probably never let the ball get 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.600 picked off because of his size and his ability to 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.760 kind of shield the defender off the ball, but also 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.680 come down with some of those fifty to fifty balls 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.520 better than literally anybody too has had since like the 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:58.320 DeVante Parker Era and Waller is or was a better 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.400 athlete than DVP was. Shouldn't be a surprise, but he 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.800 rolls when he gets the football in his hands. He 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.599 caught screen passes like Jonah Smith and got trucking on those. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.560 If he has that athletic ability in him still, and 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.400 he truly did rediscover his passion for the game, then 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.839 the upside's fun to consider. I think you can run 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.200 your speed stuff off him with snags and seams and 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.120 pivots where you just put him in the hook zone. 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.359 Stuff you would ask him League Washington to do, but 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.599 you get, you know, eight more inches pause to do 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.960 and possibly pull a robber middle of the field defender 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.359 down and open up the middle of the field in 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.279 the vertical passing game, a layer that thing over the 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.040 top to Tyreek Kill or Jalen Waddle again at his peak, 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.560 the way he could sink his hips and come back 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.120 to the football. He just moves better than DB's and 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.240 really all the tight ends in the league at the time. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.320 It was fun to watch back then, but again that 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.760 was like four years ago. But I do think that 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.400 ability that's where Jonas Smith ate hook up. Get your 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.040 head back to the quarterback and that fast turn prevents 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.279 the dB from triggering and reading that and making a 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.200 play on the football and then turn into a running 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.479 back and pick up yards. After the catch, he gets 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.520 back to the foot ball and shields the defender. So 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.159 damn well, and then there's a blocking side of things. Honestly, 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.080 I watched one game and it was a game where 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.440 he talked about why he retired. But he came away. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.440 I came away more impressed than what I thought I 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.120 would be. But I still think this is really a 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.920 receiver acquisition who plays in the slot and plays the exposition, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.440 kind of like a backup to Nick Westbrook, a Kine 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.000 if you will. But the tape he's talking about here 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.640 where he decided to retire, he just blocks Taron Johnson, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.800 the Buffalo nickel that we talk about all the time 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.800 in the podcast. Right, they never leave the nickel package. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.400 They play from light boxes because Taron Johnson's good enough 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.640 to do it as a kind of quasi linebacker. But 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.520 he beat up Taron Johnson the way alec Ingol did 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.400 back in twenty twenty two, and they came up in 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.080 Buffalo over and over again. That's a matchup he should win. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.880 And he did in that game. Like he's not going 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.840 to kick out a backside end like Max Crosby. He's 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.360 not going to like lead the sea gap up and 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.920 take out Jordan Brooks on outside zone, but he can 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.880 seal he can get in the way and do enough. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.600 He's a much better version of the willingness of Mike 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.560 Gasicki in that role. He can get down on a 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.520 nickelbacker and take out a light box defender out of 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.680 the way. So that's all I've got for now. We'll 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.840 see what happens keeping on him for training camp, But 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.840 for now, back to your regular schedule programming, Darren Waller. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.080 The newest Miami Dolphin joining us today on the Draft 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.800 Time podcast is new Dolphins defensive lineman Jordan Phillips. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.600 Jordan, welcome in, man. How you doing. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:17.640 I'm doing great. How are you? 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:18.920 I'm great. It's good to see you. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.360 We've we've done a couple of these interviews, whether it 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.160 was through zoom or in person, out in the in 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.680 the yard, out there about the practice field, but having 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.320 a chances down with you one on one talk is 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.880 good to get to know you guys. So welcome in 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.320 and uh I guess first let's just kind of go 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.760 with how how have you been, you know, getting the 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.600 lay of the land here in South Florida, whether it's football, Uh, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.480 finding your way to the facility. How are you How 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.000 are you fitting in here in South Florida so far? 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:42.800 Yeah, it's great. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.360 I mean, honestly, I've just been leaning on the Vets 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.320 and learning from them and learning from the coaches and 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.440 really just acting like a sponge and soaking in all 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:52.720 information that I can get. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:54.680 I heard that you guys ask a lot of questions 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.520 in that room. The Brookies do as well. We just 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.160 had Zeke and here I've talked to coach Clark. Why 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.040 is that so important for players to ask so many 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:02.079 questions of their coaches? 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.520 Well, because you want to pick up as much information 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.760 as possible. And the coaches are very smart. They have 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.719 a lot of knowledge, and you know, you want to 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.400 be able to pick up some of that knowledge, so 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.960 you got to ask questions. And the Vets are really 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.960 smart too, and that's why we always lean on the 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:21.520 coaches and the Vets for information, you know, anything, honestly, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.400 whether it's football or life in general. We always ask 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.840 questions and just try to pick up as much information 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:27.480 as possible. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.400 Yeah, it seems like there's a certain theme among the 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.520 rookies here in terms of how you guys approach your business, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.280 and it's really cool to see. And something that fascinates 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.760 me about you, Jordan and really all defensive tackles is 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.000 that wrestling background. I feel like when you hear about 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.160 a guy that gets drafted pretty highly and has a 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.280 wrestling background, they usually work out because there's just something 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.680 about like the grip, strength and the leverage. Like, just 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.319 take us through what wrestling has taught you on the 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:50.000 football field. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.319 Yeah, I mean, wrestling has taught me grit, you know, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:57.319 how to bounce back from adversity quickly, leverage, Wrestling has 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.200 taught me angles and a so pad level. You know, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.520 you got to be low in wrestling, you can't be high. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.760 And same thing goes for playing defensive linemen or playing 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.280 in trenches in general in football, you got to have 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.559 low pad level and you got to have leverage. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.960 You must have a crazy story from like high school 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.160 wrestling conditioning because I used to play basketball and we 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.079 would do suicides and we would do three hour scrimmages 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.080 and it was like, you know, we're tired and we 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.559 see the wrestlers running out into the gym and back 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:26.839 out of the gym and into the gym and back 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.440 like all night, all night, they are just running and 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.280 like usually wearing sweatsuits and like big garbage bags. What 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.599 was the worst, like the most physically strenuous conditioning you 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.040 can remember from wrestling, because it has to be the 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:38.760 crazy thing you've ever done. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.679 Yeah, absolutely, so my freshman year of high schools when 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.840 I started wrestling, and I could recall it, like the school, 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.040 the school that I went to in Orlando. Originally I 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.280 went to Olympia, then I transferred Old Kobe. But when 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.520 I was at Olympia, you know, all the freshmen had 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.760 to take Hope, which is just a gym class, and 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.840 on Wednesday, we would have to run a mile, and 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.040 but we have to run it under ten minutes in 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.160 the gym class or because if you don't run them 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.200 out in under ten minutes, then you failed, like you 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.440 fail the assignment. And so after that, you know, of 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.920 course we have wrestling practice because you know, gym was 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.160 seventh period and then. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:17.880 Wrestling practice is right after school. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.880 So before every practice will start off running one mile. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.600 And so I just ran a mile. So now I'm 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.800 coming to wrestling practice. I got to run another mile 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.160 on the track, and then we'll have this warm up 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.040 inside the wrestling room where we run around the wrestling 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.360 room and you know, we're doing sprawling drills and you 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.439 know we're also doing just grappling drills and stuff like that. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.000 And basically, you know, like it was tough. I'm not 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:44.760 gonna lie to you. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.840 And then that doesn't even include the condition that we 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:52.079 have after practice. We'll run, We'll run gassers in the 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.360 wrestling room and it was just it was crazy, but 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.840 it definitely did get me in shaping. It kept me 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.400 in shape for football. So that's one thing I do 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.320 appreciate about the sport. I mean, you have to be 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.440 tough to be a wrestler, and you have to be 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.079 a tough to be a defensive lineman. So those are 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.400 things that go hand in hand, and those are things 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.160 that I continue to take with me to this day. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.520 Help you play sixty seventy snaps a game, right when 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.880 it comes down to know those tough fourth quard, especially 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.839 across the street here in this September weather down here. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.679 And then you also were a big time powerlifter, right, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.240 I mean so Jordan without like you know, pause and everything, 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.480 but just seeing the way you carry the weight that 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.720 you do, Like it doesn't it's not natural is not 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.120 the right word, but like it's not common for guys 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.439 to be as cut as you are at that size. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.480 That's got to be part of the powerlifting background, right. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:38.960 Yeah, it is. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.280 I mean, honestly, I'm just real knowledgeable about what I 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.839 put into my body. And you know, when I work out, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.880 I work out with purpose and intent. And you know 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.480 when I on my non workout days, I recover with 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.320 purpose and intent. And those are things that just allow 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.520 me to carry my excuse me, those are things that 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.319 allow me to carry my weight pretty good. And those 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.360 are things that continue to help me become a better 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.000 football player and a better athlete. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:02.880 Okay, let's talk more about some football now, because that 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.520 stuff is great, and I just I think it's going 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.320 to really serve you well at this level. But you 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.440 also at Maryland played all across the defensive line. And 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.640 I asked cag this question back on draft night. What 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.439 is what is playing multiple spots? 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:14.000 Like how does it. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.240 Changed the way you read blocks or the way you 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.200 read tendancies and keys? Like is it different from different positions, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:20.160 Like what's the approach there? 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.240 Yeah, playing different block I mean well, playing different positions 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.440 across the whole defensive line. It really increases your football 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.280 IQ and it makes you more knowledgeable about the game. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.840 And you know, I think you know my position, coach 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.720 Brian Williams at Maryland, and you know Coach Locksley for 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.680 putting me in that position, because it just increased my 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.440 football like you, and helped me get ready for the 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.120 next level. And obviously, the more positions you play, the 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.760 more value you have about yourself and the more you 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.160 can help contribute to an organization. And at the end 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.199 of the day, that's all you want to do as 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.120 a as a football player in this league. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.959 So I'm glad you mentioned coach Locksley because he did 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.559 the podcast. I think last week he talked about you 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.920 and Dante here on the Draft Time podcast and he 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.960 mentioned one of the things that he always could count 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.160 on was getting to the facility and you would be 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.400 blurring the music in the weight room first thing in 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.959 the morning. Why why turn up? Were you trying to 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.000 make your presence known? Like what was the idea behind 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.920 those early morning weight room sessions? 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.000 Well, I definitely wasn't trying to make my presence known. 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.960 I mean, that's called a facade. And you know, everything 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.520 with me is what you get. You know, I'm authentic, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:28.200 So my will to want to get better is influenced 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.160 by my work ethic and how hard I working with 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.000 the purpose and the intent that I work with. You know, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.880 I always want to get better so I can add 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.120 value to whatever organization I'm a part of, and I 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:42.360 also want to, you know, get others around me better. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.200 And that's where the you know, early mornings and the 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.880 late night mentality came from. I mean, at the end 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.480 of the day, I just always want to get better, 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.240 and I always want to get others around me better. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.440 Also because if we're all getting better, we all can 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.480 add value to the organization that we're a part of 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:58.440 and that we're representing. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:14:58.920 I love. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:00.720 A great answer is Equest talking about how a lot 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.880 of the rookies coming around weekends, you know, working out together. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.560 You've been enjoying those sessions. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.960 Absolutely, And I enjoy working out with those guys. You know, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.160 guys like Zeke Bigger's, Kenneth Grant, Alex Hunley. You know, 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.760 those guys are working individuals and even guys in other rooms, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.760 you know, like my old team college teammate, current teammate, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:21.080 Dante Trader. You know Jonah, He's a guy who puts his. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.800 Head down, works on the offensive line. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.240 We have a lot of talented rookies in the building, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.200 and we have a lot of guys who come in 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.560 and work and they work with purpose to get better 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.080 so they can add value to the organization. And at 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.960 the end of the day, that's what we're trying to accomplish. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.680 We're trying to accomplish getting better every day and adding 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.560 value to the organization as much as we can. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.800 That's really good stuff. Man. I'll conclude with this forgive 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.680 my stumbling on that word. So you talk about music 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.600 in the weight room. Let's say you get your first 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.720 orange jersey out here at practice. Put you on the spot. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.520 What's the first song you want to put on that 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.680 playlist to get the guys fired up, to get the 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.560 guys juiced up and ready for a football practice. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.800 Yeah, I mean, you know, I love music. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.480 Music, Ke's me focused Like I watch music and watching 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.160 I mean I listened to music when watching film. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:03.680 I listen to music when working out. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.400 So if I had to choose one song that'd be hard, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.680 but we would I had to choose. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.160 Well, luckily you have the whole playlist, so we're maybe 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:13.840 don't it's just the first one, right, you're kind of 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.680 setting the tempo here, sending the tone of practice. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:23.200 I'll say fcg heme finally, Rich, Yeah, I listened to 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.960 Fcgeme a lot, maybe like some Little Dirt something like 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.400 that along those lines. But yeah, I mean, honestly, during 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.000 during practice, I can't, like, I can't name one song 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.600 that we played here during practice, just for the simple 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.840 fact that during practice, like I'm I'm more so locked 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.760 in on the intent of what's going on and what 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.200 we're being asked to do at that point of time 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.960 in practice. So I mean, honestly, I would take the 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.280 orange jersey and then I'll just be like, you know what, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.200 the music, Let's just play whatever music you know the 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.680 guys are feeling, because I'm not really like I'm not, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.360 I don't focus on the music during practice because I'm 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.639 just locked into whatever's being asked of me to do 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:05.359 at that moment. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.040 I would expect nothing else. Jordan Phillips, new Dolphins defensive lineman, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:09.000 appreciate your time, day man. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:09.400 That was great. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:10.840 Thank you, yes, sir, thank you so much. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.520 I like him. I like that guy. I like this guy. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:20.720 Yeah, I really like this guy. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.919 I like my whole team. Actually, I love that team. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.359 First break right there, come back on the other side, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.959 talk about the Bucks, Falcons, Panthers, and Saints, how they 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.200 match up with your Miami Dolphins. All that Next Draft 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:48.879 Time podcast, brought to you by Autnation, felt like an 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.680 appropriate time for prime time music as we kick off 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.800