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Speaker 1: Here we go the second season the NFL Playoffs. We're

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Speaker 1: So our to start. It was a wild game last night,

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Speaker 1: a fitting conclusion two team. I don't think you're going

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Speaker 1: to win a playoff game, regardless of who won last night.

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Speaker 1: But all year long on Pittsburgh I kept going back

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Speaker 1: to this well. I kept saying, they don't do anything

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Speaker 1: I like except Aaron Rodgers at forty two years old

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Speaker 1: was the one thing every Sunday I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I trust Aaron. He hasn't thrown a pick since what November?

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Speaker 1: And the Steelers have a lead, they blow to coverages.

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers is wide open multiple times, allowing seven and

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Speaker 1: a half yards of play. Lamar Jackson fourth quarter, up

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Speaker 1: and down the field. And the other thing is nobody

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Speaker 1: gets open with the Steelers. You notice this, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: second half of the season with no DK Metcalf last

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Speaker 1: two weeks, seventy three percent completion percentage, passer rating well

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Speaker 1: ninth that was rated on the season with DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: It's thirty second without him. And here's Aaron who doesn't

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Speaker 1: run much anymore, in a dysfunctional offense that really hasn't

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Speaker 1: that's been okay, inconsistent for seven years in pass protection,

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Speaker 1: and he pulls it all together. You got a little

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Speaker 1: Warren here, you got a Friar move there. Pittsburgh's just

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Speaker 1: not very good at anything. They even missed an extra

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Speaker 1: point last night. Blown coverage is everywhere, and yet Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers in the second half of that game, no DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf had his best half of the year. No timeouts,

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Speaker 1: he had to burn two of those because the Milwonkee headset.

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Speaker 1: His defense has given up bombs from Lamar Jackson as

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Speaker 1: a flowers. They just didn't do anything consistently well all

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Speaker 1: season long. And yes he can be prickly and moody

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Speaker 1: and a bit arrogant, but for a forty two year

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gets my comeback player of the Year because

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Speaker 1: at green Bay there was no chaos. He had good

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Speaker 1: hurt most of it. But in Pittsburgh you think, well,

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Speaker 1: it's Pittsburgh, they knew some things, right. Not really. They

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything well all year. They didn't really have

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Speaker 1: couldn't keep it together this year. Eventually takes a swing

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Speaker 1: of a fan two biggest games of the year, he's

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Speaker 1: not available for either. So Aaron Rodgers in the second

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Speaker 1: half of the season, and we all know the second

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Speaker 1: half is the toughest half. I mean you saw San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: You run out of players, you don't have all your tackles,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and one passer rating, fourteen tens, four picks.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers are in the playoffs. It's not to the Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: forty two year old Aaron Rodgers that can drive people

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Speaker 1: Here's Aaron and the coach after.

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Speaker 4: So it's been it's been an absolute blessing to be

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Speaker 3: The way we responded in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: you do business with a forty one, forty two year

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Speaker 1: Now they're an underdog at home on that final wild

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Speaker 1: I will just remind you that Mike Tomlin's been terrible

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Speaker 1: Night Tomlin is magical. Speaking of magical, the best game

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Speaker 1: the NFL San Francisco in the Bay Area. Seattle is

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Speaker 1: fact that their general manager, in my opinion, the best

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Speaker 1: They don't miss. And this Seattle team, as somebody from

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Speaker 1: really a unifier. He and Pete Carroll never really saw

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Speaker 1: special treatment. You can't ask for it. That Seattle team

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Speaker 1: You never hear that with Donald the GM the coach

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Speaker 1: and the reason being is because Donald owns it. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: There's the old stories about Tom Brady that would walk

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Speaker 1: two year old out of Rutgers. That's Donald's secret sauce.

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Speaker 1: Yes he's athletic, Yes he's got a great arm, Yes

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Speaker 1: But it's that relatability and in life, look at who

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Speaker 1: vouches for people. Kyle Shanahan loved him. Kevin O'Connell loved him.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald his biggest fan. This Seahawks team reminds me

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Speaker 1: of that, but more unified. Yes, both have a run

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Speaker 3: I'm taking it one day at a time.

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Speaker 6: It's it's been a whirlwind, just the NFL season, Just

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Speaker 6: preparing one week at a time. It's that's the best

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Speaker 6: part about it is like, you know, you celebrate a

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Speaker 6: right back to seeing what we can do better and

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Speaker 1: And it's a coach quarterback league. It's a wide open playoffs.

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Speaker 1: them out. Tomlin on Monday is a home dog. You

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Speaker 1: have to bet Pittsburgh. You have to bet Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 1: If the Jets play, they will not get an interception.

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Speaker 7: Yeah see, I'm shocked that you're all in on the

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Speaker 7: Steelers here. Wow, loving pic Monday night? I think what

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Speaker 7: they undefeated? Since you know nineteen seventy one or some

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Speaker 1: How about this? Kevin Stefanski, Pete Carroll, Jonathan Gannon all

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Speaker 1: fired this morning HERD lines coming up. I would hire

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski in Las Vegas, in a New York met.

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Speaker 7: If I'm the Jets, I consider moving on from Aaron

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Speaker 7: Glenn to grab Stefanski before someone else does.

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Speaker 1: But Cleveland makes a lot of mistakes. I think this

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Speaker 1: Kevin stfans heartbeat, no, no question.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It is a Monday. Great to be here, Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next year live in Los Angeles. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Aaron Rodgers last night and he didn't have

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Speaker 3: Well, double moves right end of the game.

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Speaker 9: You can tell that the defense is squatting on you.

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Speaker 9: His teammates seem to really like him, and he gives

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Speaker 1: Yeah, their receivers just don't get open a lot. I

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Speaker 9: Last night, and a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers has the

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Speaker 3: We're going to double move you here at the end.

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't like much about Pittsburgh this year.

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Speaker 1: So in the end, Lamar Jackson harball, where do you

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Speaker 9: The band back. With the band has to be better.

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Speaker 9: The work that he's done with this young quarterback has

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Speaker 1: So I don't think Seattle really I don't think they

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Speaker 1: It's like I've watched college football, watched the NFL. Buys

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I mean, that is unheard of this year.

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Speaker 1: You know what I said it earlier, Matt. They remind

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Speaker 1: me the Seahawks team that Pete had. The difference is

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Speaker 1: maybe big run game defense, incredible length and activity. The

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Speaker 1: difference is I think Darnold's a bit more of a

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Speaker 1: unifier than Russell. What do you make of Seattle right now?

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Speaker 9: Well, I love this defense, you know, I actually think

435
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Speaker 9: they're out of the shadow of the Legion of Boom now.

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Speaker 9: I think they've got their own identity.

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Speaker 3: I think they've earned it.

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Speaker 9: You know, two years in a row they've been in

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Speaker 9: good They were top ten defense last year. I think

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Speaker 9: they're the best defense in football this year.

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Speaker 3: You know, really.

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Speaker 9: Special teams in offense didn't play their strongest game against

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Speaker 9: San fran The defense carried the day.

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Speaker 3: And when you say, hey, I.

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Speaker 9: Don't want them to have a bye week because a momentum,

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Speaker 9: you sound like someone who has a high pain tolerance

447
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Speaker 9: for other people's pain. If you ask all those players

448
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Speaker 9: in the locker room, they'll take the bye week all

449
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Speaker 9: day long, and they'll say, hey, listen, coaches, you create

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Speaker 9: an environment in our bye week where we are competing

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Speaker 9: so hard, best versus best ones, versus ones, where we

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Speaker 9: can get that rust or anything that everyone's worried about

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Speaker 9: about not having momentum. We'll get that out of our system.

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Speaker 9: But we'll protect our jsns, and we'll protect our Sam

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Speaker 9: Darnold's and we'll protect our running backs, you know, our

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Speaker 9: offensive line, Gray's Abel, you know.

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Speaker 3: So like I sort of chuckle at that.

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Speaker 9: Notion that you would not want a bye week because

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Speaker 9: as a player, you would give a lot of money

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Speaker 9: back just to have another bye week. And I think

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Speaker 9: the players have proven that when CBA negotiations have come on.

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Speaker 9: So that number one seed in that bye week to me,

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Speaker 9: is worth its waiting goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean Payton says he wants it. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: and revisit. So we have Drake Mayson, Caleb's in, bo

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Speaker 1: Nix is in. There's a lot of first playoff game guys.

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Speaker 1: Now Bow made the playoffs last year, so it does

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Speaker 1: matter a little bit. He knows the intensity of it.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Denver heading into their buy, sit and watch,

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Speaker 1: where are you at with this team going forward? A

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Speaker 1: lot of close wins like Chicago can fall asleep early,

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Speaker 1: be great late.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I agree with you that the buye can

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Speaker 9: be a trap, like you can't get the buy it

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Speaker 9: can be a trap.

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Speaker 3: Now, But I've liked Denver all year.

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Speaker 9: The one thing I would say though, and I love

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Speaker 9: these quarterbacks like I love Drake May I've loved Bonax.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I probably love them too much in some

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Speaker 9: people's opinion, but I will say this, this is an

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Speaker 9: opportunity for Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills when these

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Speaker 9: star quarterbacks, these like superstar proven it guys year after year.

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Speaker 3: Are not in the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: Buffalo, you maybe didn't think this was your year, but

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Speaker 9: Josh Allen, now is the time to, like you've done

486
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Speaker 9: many times before, put this team on your back and

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Speaker 9: do something.

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Speaker 3: In the playoffs. Because even though.

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Speaker 9: I do love Denver and I do think it's so

490
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Speaker 9: impressive with Sean Payton has done, this defense is done.

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Speaker 9: I do think that if you're a player in the

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Speaker 9: NFL right now, you feel like there's an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: There's not like one clear team that could win it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 9: You know, Denver might have something to say about that

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Speaker 9: after a week off the year that they've had.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I think Josh Allen and those guys, guys got to

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Speaker 9: feel pretty good right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's go to the playoff bracket, and

501
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a whole different ballgame. So let's go

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Speaker 1: AFC NFC. So we start Chargers at the Patriots. So

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Speaker 1: it's interesting both the Chargers and Patriots. You can argue,

504
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Speaker 1: Matt the weakness is a line that they don't get

505
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Speaker 1: a great push. Do you have a vibe about the

506
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Speaker 1: Chargers in New England Drake May's first playoff game? I

507
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Speaker 1: would say the pressure feels like it's on New England.

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Speaker 1: They're the two seed, they're at home, I still contend

509
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Speaker 1: and they need they need another draft to fill out

510
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Speaker 1: this roster. I think they're early on a rebuild. Your

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Chargers Patriots?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the Patriots are pretty strong actually up

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Speaker 9: front on the tackle side of it, compared to what

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Speaker 9: the Chargers have. You know, Will Campbell's been an incredible addition.

515
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Speaker 9: They nailed it on the draft pick. Everyone said all

516
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Speaker 9: his arms are too short. I think they should stop

517
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Speaker 9: measuring arms, just like they said Joe Burrow's hands were

518
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Speaker 9: too small. They should stop measuring quarterback hands. I don't

519
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Speaker 9: think that's the thing doing. The Patriots are really impressive.

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Speaker 9: You take Mike Rabel, you take Josh McDaniels, you take

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Speaker 9: the MVP caliber.

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Speaker 3: Year that Drake may has had.

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Speaker 9: I think the offensive line's done a good job where

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Speaker 9: I what my fear would be is if the Patriots

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Speaker 9: D line wasn't healthy and they're getting healthy, Christian Barmore's back,

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Speaker 9: Milton Williams is back, Like that's gonna be the factor.

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Speaker 9: I like New England a lot, you know, for the

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Speaker 9: trenches of this matchup.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so basically, if you watch the regular season, there's

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Speaker 1: no way you could make Buffalo a favorite at Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: and yet they are. I like Jacksonville when they clabber

532
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Speaker 1: the Chargers and then they beat Denver, and I mean convincingly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're gonna run the ball

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Speaker 1: and control the clock. I think Buffalo is a team

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Speaker 1: that starts slowly, which could hurt on the road. You

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Speaker 1: have a feeling about that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jags should be favored.

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Speaker 9: The Jags should be favored in this game, like they're

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Speaker 9: the better team this year.

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Speaker 3: They're a complete team. They're quarterbacks playing great, but.

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Speaker 9: This is just kind of like it's wild card weekend

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Speaker 9: for a reason.

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Speaker 3: I've played.

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Speaker 9: I've been on so many wildcard teams where you play

545
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Speaker 9: in these games and crazy stuff happens, and usually what

546
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Speaker 9: happens is one player just kind of gets like the

547
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Speaker 9: eye of the tiger and they're like, Nope, we are

548
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Speaker 9: not going home today.

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Speaker 3: Our season's not ending today.

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Speaker 9: And that's what I'm saying Josh Allen needs to do,

551
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Speaker 9: and that's what I'm saying I think he can do now.

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Speaker 9: The difference is this is the best football that we've

553
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Speaker 9: seen Trevor Lawrence play, and no one's really talking about

554
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Speaker 9: it because like, oh, who Liam Cohene, Like ah, he

555
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 9: was just Sean mcvay's understudy. All We've seen Trevor do

556
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Speaker 9: some silly things in the past. He's let us down.

557
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Speaker 9: Trevor Lawren's playing great football. So I think it's a

558
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Speaker 9: great matchup. I think Jacksonville has been slept on. But again,

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Speaker 9: I just think that the playoffs are different. And if

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Speaker 9: you're Josh Allen and you've had this career where you've

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Speaker 9: had to go against the big boys of like Hall

562
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Speaker 9: of Fame, quarterbacks versus like this next generation. This is

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Speaker 9: an opportunity for you to take control of your team,

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Speaker 9: take control of the locker room, and say, hey, listen,

565
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Speaker 9: why not us, Why can't this be our year? This

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Speaker 9: could be our year, like we're just as good as

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Speaker 9: everybody else. And I think that was one of the

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Speaker 9: lessons that I learned in.

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Speaker 3: My wildcard experience.

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Speaker 9: You know, I was on one of those teams that

571
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Speaker 9: was seven and nine with Pete Carroll, and did you

572
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Speaker 9: know we had to play the one seat or the

573
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Speaker 9: defending world champs, the Saints. We weren't seven and nine.

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Speaker 9: Once the playoffs start, we're zero and zero. So it

575
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Speaker 9: doesn't matter what kind of year the Buffalo Bill's had.

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Speaker 9: There's zero and zero. It's a new season.

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Speaker 3: And that's the mentality in the locker room.

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Speaker 9: I think an all world quarterback like that could could

579
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Speaker 9: do some damage, could change things, could be a second

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Speaker 9: season for them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll wait until next week to look at

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Speaker 1: these Steelers Texans, because that's on Monday, and you'll come

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Speaker 1: back next Monday. Let's go to the NFC. We presume

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Speaker 1: the Rams will take care of the Panthers. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk Niners Eagles. So San Francisco, if trust you.

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Speaker 3: Just did that, Hey, you just presumed. You gotta forget.

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Speaker 9: It's not called like expect what you expect weekend, It's

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Speaker 9: wild card weekend. Okay, So I wouldn't even put put

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Speaker 9: it past Carolina to have an outstanding day. Wouldn't put

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Speaker 9: it past them. I'll let you go on, but I

591
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Speaker 9: just let you know I wouldn't put it past them.

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Speaker 1: Okay. They do have big receivers which have given the

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Speaker 1: Rams trouble. They have two of them. So Trent Williams,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsol, if they're healthy, I think they can go

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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. Philadelphia arrested a lot of starters yesterday. Are

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Speaker 1: you a fan of that? What do you make the matchup?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: So, first of all, Trent william is that met That

599
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Speaker 9: loss him not playing makes them a completely different team.

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Speaker 9: You can overcome injuries, but losing your left tackle is

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Speaker 9: a completely different thing.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of teams, the Eagles included, know

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Speaker 9: about that. I think there's been a long history of Philly,

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Speaker 9: going back to the Andy Reid days, of resting people

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Speaker 9: in the last game of the season before the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: It's just kind of the culture in the building. And

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Speaker 9: I think culture in the building is a thing. You know,

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Speaker 9: I played for four different NFL teams. There was a

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Speaker 9: way of doing things that kind of can carry on

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Speaker 9: from regime to regime. I think Philly is one of

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Speaker 9: those teams. It doesn't worry me at all that they

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Speaker 9: rested their starters. I believe in that team. I would

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Speaker 9: also just say that I would not sleep on the Niners.

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Speaker 9: They were this close. They were really they had one

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Speaker 9: game to win and they could have been the one

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Speaker 9: seed in the NFC. So when at full strength, you know,

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Speaker 9: I think, could they beat Philly? Yeah, they could beat Philly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. God, what a year for Kyle Twelve wins for

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Speaker 1: a team that lost Bosa and Fred Corner and had

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones start eight games, I mean.

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Speaker 9: And lost people before the season even in free agency,

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Speaker 9: like we were talking about, this was a little bit

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Speaker 9: less talented of a team. And then to deal with

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Speaker 9: the injuries that they dealt with. But I think brock

626
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Speaker 9: Perty is a way different player when his left tackle's

627
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Speaker 9: ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: Finally, I like Chicago at home against Green Bay. I

629
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Speaker 1: think I do. They're more explosive offensively. I think they

630
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Speaker 1: run the ball more consistently. I think I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any pressure on Chicago. I think Caleb doesn't get

632
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Speaker 1: too caught up in that. I would lean Chicago. I

633
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Speaker 1: think they have more playmakers. I think they have the

634
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Speaker 1: better offensive line, the better run game. Than the downside

635
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Speaker 1: is they get gashed. They give up big, big plays.

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Speaker 1: Your take on Packers Bears, great matchup, rivalry game. It

637
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Speaker 1: was an awesome game. The last time. You know Jeff Hafley.

638
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Speaker 1: I do think he's one of the great defensive coordinators.

639
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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons that he'll be up for,

640
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these head coaching opportunities.

641
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Speaker 3: But I think the run game matter.

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Speaker 9: You know, in Chicago's done just such a great job

643
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Speaker 9: with run game, and then creativity. Then Caleb being an

644
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 9: athlete and kind of making something plays clearly got chemistry

645
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Speaker 9: with young tight end. But that you know, this is

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Speaker 9: a situation where Jeff Haffley third time around, Like third

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Speaker 9: time around games are really interesting because that's where I

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Speaker 9: believe the coaching matters more. When you play someone three times,

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Speaker 9: especially in a short amount of time, coaching is just

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Speaker 9: so incredibly important. So this is a great I mean,

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Speaker 9: Ben Johnson. You know how I feel about him. I

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Speaker 9: think he's the best. And Jeff Haffley, I think, you know,

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Speaker 9: he's one of the guys that the league thinks is

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Speaker 9: one of the best. So you know, I can't I

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Speaker 9: can't call this one. It's gonna be a great game.

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Speaker 1: Did you, even at the end of your career go

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Speaker 1: to your last couple of playoff appearances? Were you? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if nervous is the right word, but when

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Speaker 1: you're walking out for a playoff game, tell the audience

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Speaker 1: how different it does feel. Because I've talked to Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning before about that. He's like, oh, no, is the

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Speaker 1: speeds different? Everything feels different.

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Speaker 3: Nothing hurts. You know, everyone's like, oh, I'm banged up

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Speaker 3: all season.

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Speaker 9: Nothing hurts. I remember the Beast Quake game. You know

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Speaker 9: we're seven to nine. Everyone said, Oh, you don't deserve

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Speaker 9: to even play this game. How dare you make the

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Speaker 9: defending world champs Saints come all the way out to

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Speaker 9: South Alaska in Seattle to play you guys? I played

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Speaker 9: it with a broken wrist. Nothing hurts. You're so excited,

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Speaker 9: And I think one of the things that's so great

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Speaker 9: about it is that you all you, like all your

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Speaker 9: peers are at home watching like.

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Speaker 3: The rest of the league, whether they're in.

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Speaker 9: You know, out of the playoffs or playing on a

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Speaker 9: different time, like they're watching too. And I think for

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Speaker 9: the players, like gaining the respect of your kind of

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Speaker 9: your peers, coaches, players, and that kind of thing, I

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Speaker 9: think that's really important, guys. It was always important to me,

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Speaker 9: so having that opportunity to play like sort of for free.

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Speaker 9: I remember the first time in the wildcard game where

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Speaker 9: Steve Young threw it to t o down the middle.

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Speaker 9: I was playing, was on the Packers Niners, and remember

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Speaker 9: Brett Farv like broke down the team before the game

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Speaker 9: and he was like, all right, guys, we're playing for

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Speaker 9: free today. We're playing for the love of the game.

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Speaker 9: And I was like, man, love of the game, like

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Speaker 9: you know, like that's what it means to most of

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Speaker 9: the guys.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 9: For him, he took a huge pay cut because the

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Speaker 9: wildcard check was like this to his main salary, and

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Speaker 9: it was like that to my regular salary. But like,

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Speaker 9: but but that's the that's the feeling on the lot

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Speaker 9: on the field of the guys that are playing. This

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Speaker 9: is for the love of the game, and for the

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Speaker 9: respect of your peers, and you're on borrowed time and

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Speaker 9: you cut it loose and have fun. And that's why

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Speaker 9: it's so wild. That's why it's so fun. That's why

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Speaker 9: upsets happened. My favorite weekend, it's it's so good.

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Speaker 1: By the way, your last playoff run seven touchdowns, one

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Speaker 1: pick and a one oh one point for passer rating and.

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Speaker 3: Not bad, not bad, Colin, not bad.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys play in cleats back then? What?

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Speaker 3: Whatere?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 9: Our last game we played at Chicago Soldier Field and

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00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 9: it was so cold. We should not have played on cleats,

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00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 9: played in cleats, should have played in like basketball shoes

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Speaker 9: because it was frozen.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 9: They were spray painting the field green before the game,

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Speaker 9: so it looked like there was grass on TV, but

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Speaker 9: it was just like dirt at that point, the frozen dirty.

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Speaker 1: You outdueled the Saints, drew Brees. We've got it right there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, then got outdueled by the Bears the next week,

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Speaker 9: so it was you know, that's the thing about the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: You got to do it every week, but this first one.

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Speaker 9: Want to know, you know, everybody zero and zero and

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Speaker 9: I think that's that's the exciting thing for really everybody.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Matt hasselb go see anybody, all right, seekon, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the I mean even Caroline and the Rams. Caroline's got

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Speaker 1: two huge perimeter receivers, and that is really the weakness.

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Speaker 1: The difference is. I thought Stafford played one of the

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Speaker 1: few poor games all year. Just didn't. Didn't, just went

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Speaker 1: on the road long trip. Rams were out of sync.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is back. If the number comes down to ten,

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Speaker 1: I would take the Rams ten and a half day.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you just buy it to nine and a half.

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Speaker 7: I just asked our research staff for some numbers on

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Speaker 7: double digit favorites in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I can't give that up on Monday. Come on, save

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Speaker 1: that for later in the week, right, okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: We're in La at the Hurt