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Speaker 1: Fish Fights Podcast. I'm arm Layton and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: probably the most anticipated guest we've had on the show,

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Speaker 1: long time Marlins broadcaster in Fox Sports Florida analyst Tommy Hutton. Tommy,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about anticipated guest. I mean, did

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Speaker 2: you show just start yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, We've actually been having some pretty

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Speaker 1: good guests line up. So I'm telling you, Marlins fans

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Speaker 1: have really grabbed a hold of you. Since you've been

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Speaker 1: a broadcaster for nineteen years. I mean, how has it been.

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Speaker 1: How's it been to be back around the Marlins and

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Speaker 1: how has that experience been so far?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's for me because I was uninvolved for

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Speaker 2: a couple of years, two and a half years. You know,

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Speaker 2: I was actually kind of leading a normal life, so

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Speaker 2: to speak. But it's been fun to get back involved

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Speaker 2: because I love baseball, and I think any fans that

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Speaker 2: ever listened and watched our telecasts got that feeling that

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Speaker 2: I truly was invested, not only in the game, but

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Speaker 2: in the Marlins, and so it's kind of been fun

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Speaker 2: to get back get down in the field and talk

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Speaker 2: to some of the young players and just kind of

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Speaker 2: interact with everybody and get involved. So that, to me,

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Speaker 2: that's been the fun part.

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Speaker 1: And fans are just as excited as you are to

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Speaker 1: be back and have you back. But before we talk

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Speaker 1: about your career in the booth, you had a twelve

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Speaker 1: year MLB career. You played with the Dodgers, the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, and the Expos. Can you talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about your baseball career. You know, you played

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Speaker 1: and you grew up in California, Los Angeles, it's a

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Speaker 1: hotbed for baseball. What was your journey like to the MLB?

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Speaker 2: You know, it was an interesting journey. It was a

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Speaker 2: long journey. When I signed, I signed with the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: and the scout that signed me it was Tommy Lesorda,

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Speaker 2: who scouted me in high school. So I started my

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Speaker 2: And then I went to Triple A and I spent

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Speaker 2: about five years in Triple A. Got called up one

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Speaker 2: and they needed me to fill in for about three weeks.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, a long time in Triple A.

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Speaker 2: And then I really didn't get my major league break

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Speaker 2: the off season of seventy one, I got traded to

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Speaker 1: And how was it playing in Los Angeles back then?

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Speaker 1: Because I know everyone says Florida, California and Texas are

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Speaker 1: when you were playing, And how did that help you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was, And I think mainly because

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Speaker 2: all year. We played whatever sport was in season. We

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Speaker 2: now I think kids get a little too focused just

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Speaker 2: And you see teams now are trying to draft kids

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Speaker 1: And we've seen that in the draft. As you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Now that you're back with the team, you mentioned you

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Speaker 1: got more acquainted so far. What has impressed you with

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Speaker 2: I'm amazed at some of the young players, and I'll

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Speaker 2: And I think it's shown in the success he's had

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Speaker 2: the most impressive thing to me is that there's some

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Speaker 2: And they have a Martine Prato certainly a Starln Castro,

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Dan, Australian Martine Prado. Those are known

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Speaker 1: When you were playing, who was the guy that kind

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Speaker 2: You know, Let's see when I first came up with

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you a great story, and I'll always

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Speaker 2: and I tried to do it myself, certainly, not to

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Speaker 2: the degree it happened to me. But the very first

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Speaker 2: to play behind Sandy Kofax. He was the pitcher for

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Speaker 2: I always tried to make a point to congratulate a

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's hard to be more impressed by anyone more

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Speaker 1: impressive than Sandy Kofax. That's something I didn't even I

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Speaker 1: Talking about your new role with the team, I saw

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Speaker 1: an interesting quote you mentioned because talking about your playing

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Speaker 1: way I was my whole career. It works out perfect.

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Speaker 1: That was the quote. Can you talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is interesting, and that's true. I'm basically

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Speaker 2: a rant occurs once in a while. But well yeah,

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Speaker 2: but but doing a pre and postgame show. As an example,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's much different than than doing the spontaneity

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Speaker 2: it's fun working with Craig. I mean, I've been around

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Speaker 1: But it sounds great, and I know fans are just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun. I mean we talked about that

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking about partners as well, of course, Rich Walt's

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Speaker 1: the magnitude of a Beatles reunion. What do you, guys,

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Speaker 1: What do you think made you guys so compatible in

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Speaker 2: You know, I think we both had the same outlook

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Speaker 2: just formed a natural friendship. Actually that that the day

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Speaker 1: And the thing that he doesn't really impresses me, Like

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Speaker 1: That's, like I said, the refreshing thing about Brian Anderson

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, you put me on the spot. I should

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Speaker 1: I know I should want you, but I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: First of like I said, in doing games, especially as

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Speaker 1: Well. That's the thing I was. We were voting on

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get it. I'm gonna have you guess

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Speaker 2: To know I would say, I would say, my I

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Speaker 1: So you are very very close, and I thought that

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Speaker 2: We got clothes line by a Gabby.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but the home plate call was very close second,

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Speaker 1: Do you think anything changed? Do you think it's still

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Speaker 2: No. I think the young players have adjusted with you know,

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Speaker 2: So they were going in the wrong direction. I know

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Speaker 2: But but you're you're going into some of these rants.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember what I said. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: Are you saying you just black out and just everything

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be that would be my defense. That

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Speaker 1: the positive, the good, the good yelling, the happy yelling,

435
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: My favorite call of yours or favorite reaction rather, Dan

436
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: Augla hits a home run off Kevin Gregg the game. Yeah,

437
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: Cody Ross hits it is the walk off. We're going

438
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: to play that clip real quick and then I want

439
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: to ask you about it. But this is my favorite

440
00:23:53,680 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: call of yours so far, one Cody Ross. Not just like.

441
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Oh, in Chicago, they love to call it back to

442
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 2: back jacks.

443
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: Guess what Jacks. So that is by far my favorite,

444
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: just because of you literally yell in the booth. I

445
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: mean that's you literally yell like a fan in the booth,

446
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: and that is what's so refreshing from fans because it's

447
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: not this censored, trying to contain yourself reaction. It's authentic.

448
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: It's what everyone's feeling.

449
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: And it's actually, yes, some of it was censored, or

450
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: I would have been gone a long time ago.

451
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll take it a step back. It's not

452
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: completely censored, and I think that's that's what fans love,

453
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: because the passion. You can tell how much you love

454
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: the game of baseball, and that's it came out into

455
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: our living room. You know, my running around, I'm doing

456
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: laps around our table. And to hear you guys just

457
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: as excited as we are, I think is what made

458
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: it so refreshing. But take me through that exact game,

459
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: if you can remember as well as I do. I'm

460
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: sure you do. What was that like to see back

461
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: to back home runs, the walk off from the clutchman,

462
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: Cody Ross himself. Take me through the emotions of that

463
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: in the booth.

464
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, you got to you gotta remember

465
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: there are two guys who you know, I I it's

466
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: it's hard to not have favorites over the years, and

467
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: you're talking about two guys who were favorites.

468
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: You know.

469
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: His name is is dan Ugler. I mean we had

470
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: we used to tell every broadcast they did come into town,

471
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: they go, how does he pronounce his name? We go,

472
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: his name is dan uggla.

473
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: So.

474
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: And then Cody Ross was not he not only was

475
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: one of our favorites. He was a fan favorite too,

476
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: and so so when those guys did what they did

477
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: in that game, I mean, it just just takes you

478
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: to another to another level. I'm not not saying maybe

479
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 2: if two other guys did it, it might not be

480
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: the same. But you know those two guys, because they

481
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: were good guys. They they played the game hard, and

482
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, it just took it that way.

483
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: So the close second was also a Cody Ross home run,

484
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: the two run walk off shot to right center on

485
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: Cowbell Knight. I was at that game as well. That's

486
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: probably the most excited I've ever been at a ballpark.

487
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: I was really close between those two, but I liked

488
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: your reaction more on that one. The Cowbell Knight.

489
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: See, I have no idea.

490
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 1: Oh you actually there was a quote you said at

491
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: the end. You said, you live with them, you die

492
00:26:52,359 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: with them, but you gotta love them. He walks one games,

493
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: bring those townbounds.

494
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: You gotta love him. You died with him and then

495
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: you gotta love him.

496
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: And that was what you said about the Marlins when

497
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: they walked it off there, and it's true because they

498
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: have there's been a lot of ups and downs, but

499
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: that two thousand and eight, there was a lot of ups.

500
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: That was probably one of the best atmospheres I've had

501
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Adam Marlins game. It was one of those Friday fireworks.

502
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it was one of those super Saturdays with a

503
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: concert after. I know it was a weekend game. How

504
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: do you remember that whole night? I know a lot

505
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: of fans and when I asked them to what kind

506
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: of questions that they wanted me to ask you, it

507
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: was more just have Tommy tell us what he remembers

508
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: about these nights, and that was one of them. That

509
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: was a lot of people. What do you remember about

510
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: the atmosphere and in the booth, I think you guys

511
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: were ringing the cowbells like crazy when he was around

512
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: in the bases.

513
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was The cow bells were probably a little

514
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: different than vuvuzela night. I remember that one, but now

515
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: there was there was a great atmosphere because of the

516
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: noise and uh, you know again that so much of

517
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: this stuff happens and and truly, uh, I think that's

518
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: why over the years fans always appreciated what I did

519
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: because I kind of felt in the booth maybe what

520
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: they were feeling watching the game, And you know, sometimes

521
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: We've had so many games if I couldn't tell you

522
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: how many games I've been a part of as a

523
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: broadcaster that you know, they at times they kind of

524
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: run together, but those moments are are great. I love

525
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: hearing the replays of them because it brings brings back

526
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: memories to me too.

527
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: That's the thing, is what's amazing about it is I

528
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: can just hear that call and I can tell you

529
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: exactly where I was when I was listening to it,

530
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: when I was going through all of sifting through all

531
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: of the broadcast before I was having you on. It

532
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: almost took me back in time, and I'm sure it

533
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: does the same thing for you even more so, where

534
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: I could remember I was in the living room with

535
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: my dad watching that game, or I was at the

536
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: game right there, you know, at Marlins Park, or at

537
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: the old stadium, at whatever the six names. I mean,

538
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: that must have been difficult for you guys to keep up.

539
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: You must have always wanted to call it Joe, Robbie.

540
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure is it changed every year, but that was

541
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: definitely something that really took me back. But also, you

542
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: aren't going to skate free without me playing the Niger

543
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Morgan rat because I want to ask you a little

544
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: bit about that. Of course, it starts with Niger Morgan

545
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I'm going to try and

546
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: take us through the series of events. Niger Morgan trucks

547
00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: Brett Hayes and he separates his shoulder. Marlin's hit Morgan

548
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: in a professional manner right in the back. He goes

549
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: to first. It's a ten run game. Then he steals

550
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: second and third. Marlins did not like that, so they

551
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: hit him again or through behind him. Rather Volstad does

552
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: and that's when he.

553
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: Charges the Chris Volstad was a picture, right.

554
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Yes, Volsad was the picture. He throws behind him. Morgan

555
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: charges the mound and that's where all payoffs breaks loose

556
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: and Gabby clothes windes him. Actually had the opportunity to

557
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: talk to Gaby Sanchez about that a little bit, and

558
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: uh and he said. Niger actually later apologize next year

559
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: at spring training and they cleared the air. But what

560
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: Gabby told me is he said, no one is allowed

561
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: to touch my picture. He said, I'm going to get there

562
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: before anyone gets to my pitcher, which I thought was

563
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: a pretty cool thing to hear because he had to

564
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: run a probably like a three to five to the

565
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: mound or even quicker to beat a speedy Niger Morgan

566
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: to the mound himself. So take me through that before

567
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to play the call real quick and then

568
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to kind of take me through.

569
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: But this is after the fight, and this is when

570
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Niger Morgan is being taken off the field, And this

571
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: was your take on what you thought about Niger Morgan's

572
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: actions throughout the series.

573
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: And the rest of the Washington Nationals can't thank Niger

574
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: Morgan for everything that just happened. He's their teammate. This

575
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: guy has some serious problems. If Major League Baseball doesn't

576
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: do something about Niger Morgan, then they're coming up short.

577
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: So what was happening when he was coming off the field.

578
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: He was enticing the fans. It was almost like a

579
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: at at a WWE wrestling event.

580
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

581
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: He was trying he was trying to incite the fans

582
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: and raise I can picture him raising his hands up

583
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: in the air, and to me, that was just wrong.

584
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not that's not the way the game's played.

585
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I know he came out of the

586
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: play hard. He got dusted that's that should be it,

587
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: And for Gabby, that was probably the best junk Gabby

588
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: got all year.

589
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: Well, what's amazing about your recollection with this is I'm

590
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: playing the video from from my side of things on

591
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: the computer and I'm watching it, and you're perfectly painting

592
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: the picture of what is Jersey completely undone fans booing

593
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: and he's putting his hands up like you said, like

594
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: he's trying to hype up the crowd, like like a

595
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: WW match has an absolutely incredible comparison to make, and

596
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: it really was puzzling to see him do that, and

597
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: that was something that was pretty amazing to me. But

598
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: so Niger Morgan won of forty close. Second was that

599
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: that home plate call we talked about, and then third

600
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: place was the Jose Reyes error. Can you talk to

601
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that?

602
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: Well, you're probably you're probably a few scorekeepers over the

603
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: years that have not appreciated some of the stuff I've said.

604
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: But you know, in all honesty, all of my second

605
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: guesses or rants, whatever you want to call them, we're on.

606
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: We're for the Marlins. We're on plays that were against

607
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: the Marlins. So I think fans again that if they

608
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: were home watching, they probably felt the same way, and

609
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: that's probably why they related a little bit to me.

610
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I think that's why fans have really grabbed a hold

611
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: of you is because it's sort of frustrating when things

612
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: are transpiring on the screen and you have all of

613
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: these frustrations at home and no one's acknowledging them because

614
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: sometimes people are afraid to or are afraid to say

615
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: it the way that fans would probably say it. And

616
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: it was refreshing when your frustrations were almost voiced on

617
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: TV where I was like, you know, that's not an error.

618
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: They've got to correct that, and you're right there saying

619
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: that's not an error that needs to be corrected, And

620
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: I think that was something that was really refreshing for

621
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: fans to not have that, like I said before, almost

622
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: sifted through more calculated sort of semantics type of things

623
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: where we're in types of words where it's almost everything

624
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: is is censored, not you acknowledge that it's censored a

625
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: little bit.

626
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's happened in the in the game today, it's

627
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: become so uh so numbers oriented with all the saber

628
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: metrics and and the the ops and the war and

629
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: the slugging percentage, which is a part of the game

630
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: now I I I understand that, but there's also a

631
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: tremendous human side to the game. And I think sometimes

632
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: especially when you you have your home team, you want

633
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: to you want to relate to to your players and

634
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: so as as opposed to just relating to numbers. And

635
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: I think that's it's there's a fine line between both,

636
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: and I think some times it's gotten a little more

637
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: away to the numbers.

638
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: And that's something that Derek Jeter is even touched on too,

639
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: acknowledging that it's a part of the game, but he

640
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: also says there's some things that you can just see

641
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: that advanced metrics don't show you. You can see if

642
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: a guy's a ball player. There's so many other intangibles

643
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: that come into factor, and that's something that Derek Jeter

644
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: said plenty. What's your take on all of the saber metrics.

645
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: You acknowledge just now that you know it's a part

646
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: of the game, and it's definitely something that tells a

647
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a story. But being a player that

648
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: played before all of these crazy saber metrics, where it

649
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: was pretty much just on base percentage, batting average, and

650
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you looked at in overall run production.

651
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: What's your take on it. Do you think it's a

652
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: little bit too much, the game's going a little bit

653
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: too much in that direction, or do you think that

654
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: is the future of baseball?

655
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's probably the future in a lot of things,

656
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: and I would hope it doesn't get any worse becase

657
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: because the numbers are important. You can find out a

658
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: lot when you look at some of the numbers, But

659
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: I think you can also find out a lot when

660
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: you talk to a young player. A I've found out

661
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to look at numbers to find out

662
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: about what kind of guys JT. Real Muto and Brian Anderson,

663
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: who we talked about earlier, what they're like. And you

664
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: hear scouts even now they scout young players, and yes,

665
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: there are certain things they look for in physical abilities,

666
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: but you'll hear scouts say, yes, but this guy has

667
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: great character. He's going to be good for a team,

668
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: and that's the kind of guy you want. You want

669
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: to have a whole bunch of those guys in your clubhouse.

670
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned having those guys that are great for

671
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: your team. One of the questions that was tweeted at

672
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: us that I loved was someone as we as we

673
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of conclude here, this was definitely something I wanted

674
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: to say for the end, You're Mount Rushmore of Marlin's players.

675
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to necessarily be I know, I'm putting

676
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: you on the spot again. I'm sorry about that, but

677
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily have to be in terms of run production,

678
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: talent numbers.

679
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: Just your before you asked, before you asked the question,

680
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the answer.

681
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: You ready, let's hear it.

682
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: Wan Pierre, that's it.

683
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: That is a great one one, Pierre. And what about there?

684
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: Do you have any one or two other guys other

685
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: than one Pierre?

686
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: Well, a couple of those guys we talked about before,

687
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Cody Ross, Dan Ogla, Uh, you know, hard nosed players,

688
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: Mike Lowell unbelievable human being, Derek Lee was a tremendous

689
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: Charles Johnson back a little bit earlier. And I'm gonna

690
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: miss guys, you know, I'm gonna miss naming different guys.

691
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: Al Lighter was always fun to be around. Al Lighter

692
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: and I have an interesting history because I was doing

693
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: in the late eighties doing Yankees games, and Al Lighter

694
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: got called up and I saw him pitch his first

695
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: game with the Yankees. In the nineties, he got traded

696
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: to the Toronto Blue Jays and I was working with

697
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: the Toronto Blue Jays at the time doing their TV,

698
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: so I saw Al Lighter with Toronto and then we

699
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: both ended up in Miami with the Marlins. And I

700
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 2: remember when he got traded to the Mets. I said,

701
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: Al does that mean I'm going to the Mets too?

702
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: Wow, that's something else. So you definitely formed a relationship

703
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: with him. Married were you with the Marlins when he

704
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: threw that no hit or was that just before?

705
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: Just before? That's the only I didn't see that one.

706
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: And yeah, because he threw that one in I believe

707
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: ninety six.

708
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Okay, I wasn't positive. And what

709
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: made you so sure about Juan Pierre? I mean, my

710
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: grandma is a diehard Marlins fan, has used to go

711
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: to the games every single Friday. Juan Pierre was her favorite.

712
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't tell you why. I think

713
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: she just loved to smile and the way he carried

714
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: himself and the way he played the game. But Juan

715
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: Pierre was her favorite. Anytime I could get anything Juan

716
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Pierre for her, she was the happiest woman in the

717
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: entire world. Well, why did you like quant Pierre so much?

718
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure your reasons are a little different than

719
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: my grandmother's.

720
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not. I don't know. I could be as

721
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: old as your grandmother. You know, he he was, he is,

722
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: he still is. He's he's humble, He respected everybody around

723
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: the game. He played hard, he wanted to play. I

724
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: think his first few years with the Marlins, he played

725
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: every game, so he wanted to be in there all

726
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: the time. And to this day, if I see him,

727
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: he still calls me mister Hutting. So we had we

728
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: had yesterday on our pregame show. We had Lewis Brinson

729
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: on and growing up in South Florida, Wampierre was his idol.

730
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: He loved Wampierre. And now he's gotten a chance to

731
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: work with him a little bit and play in the outfield,

732
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, working with him in spring training. So it's

733
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: been a treat for Brinson, who's another quality young man too.

734
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: We haven't talked about him too much because he's he's

735
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: hurt right now. But there's another example of a guy

736
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: with some tremendous tools, but also as a great character.

737
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about Brinson. I mean,

738
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: we've heard so many great things about him. It's great

739
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: with interviews you can tell he's very well spoken, very smart,

740
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: carries himself really well. He struggled a lot this year

741
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: and doesn't seem to let it get to him, you know,

742
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: keeps plugging away. He's young, it's his first season. What

743
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: have you seen from what it seems like from from afar,

744
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: it seems like he's staying positive, working through everything, and

745
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: he knows that he's going to make it out of

746
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: the other side, that there's a light at the end

747
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: of the tunnel. What have you seen with Brinton struggling

748
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: a little bit and what have you seen that makes

749
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: you think that or more positive that he will get

750
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: to the other side and bust out of this.

751
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: Well. I think it's because actually, just before he got hurt,

752
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: you could see some progress. Number one, it's because he

753
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: does have a good approach. In number two, he's not

754
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: afraid to put in the time and he works at

755
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: it and he has the tools. He has that ability.

756
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you can put in all the work you want.

757
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I did that, and I wasn't a superstar

758
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 2: because I didn't have the tools. I didn't have the ability.

759
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: But if you have those and also put in the work,

760
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: then hopefully that will transpire into a good career.

761
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: And Brinson has been putting in the work. It's been

762
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: unbelievable to see he's slowly pugged away. We've seen how

763
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: much power he has. These black I said, some balls

764
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: out of the ballpark of four hundred and thirty four

765
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: hundred and forty plus feet. It's just putting together the

766
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: consistency and everything along there. Before I let you go,

767
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: you mentioned Brentson, You mentioned Brian Anderson, what else? Who

768
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: else do you really like from this team moving forward?

769
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: Who are those high character guys of Swan Pierre, Cody Ross,

770
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: type of guys that you think could be the future

771
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: of this team so far that you've really liked. You

772
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: mentioned Riddle as well earlier.

773
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah mentioned J two Riddle. There are some guys who

774
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to talk to or get

775
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: to know, who are in the minor leagues now who

776
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: have come over in some of the trades the Marlins made,

777
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: and I know some of those guys have those qualities

778
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: as well. I just in the brief time I saw

779
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: him interviewed, and I've just spoke to him briefly. But

780
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: the young pitcher Pablo Lopez, who has had a couple

781
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: of starts, two or three starts under his belt, he

782
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: looks like he's that kind of guy. Heck, he's a

783
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: guy who is going to go to medical school for

784
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: crying out loud. So you know he's got some smart

785
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: and so see him kind of the second half the

786
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: season how he falls into the rotation. So guys like that,

787
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: I know Kyle Barklaw and Steck and Ryder and and

788
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: Adam Connelly, who I got to know he was coming

789
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: up with the ball club my last year. And those

790
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: guys in the bullpen, they have it. They get it.

791
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: That's a term that you hear and you hear somebody say, well,

792
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: you know what, he gets it. And when you hear

793
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: that about a kid, that's always good.

794
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Adam Conley actually just wrote a piece about moving from

795
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: starter to the bullpen. Up to his velocity on the

796
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: fastball about four ticks, slider about three and he's just

797
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: going high, high volume strikeouts now with his plus plus

798
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: stuff able to go max effort in that one inning,

799
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: and he really seems to have figured it out. And

800
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: that's just a matter of, like you said it, plugging

801
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: away kind of like Lewis Princeton and trusting that you

802
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: can figure it out in some capacity even if it

803
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: doesn't work out. As a starter. Now he's looking like

804
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: an elite bullpen arm possibly if those numbers that he's

805
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: putting up continues. But so far, it's been really impressive

806
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: to see his transition from from starter to reliever.

807
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I don't want to compare him to

808
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: an Andrew Miller, but he's on track to become, you know,

809
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: in that category from a young pitcher, was a starter

810
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: and had trouble with command and sometimes velocity, and we

811
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: all know what it's done to the career of Andrew Miller.

812
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: And you can certainly see that that path for Adam Connolly,

813
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: and as long as he's accepted that that's his role

814
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: now in the bullpen, that's even better.

815
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: And that's actually the exact comparison. I made it my piece,

816
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: and he'd be surprised at how similar they were in

817
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: their transition from starter to reliever in terms of this

818
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: stuff they used and their tics up ticks and velocity

819
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: and things along those lines. But Tommy, I wish I

820
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: could keep you all day. I know you have other

821
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: things to do in places to go, but I to

822
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: do this show for two hours with you. I have

823
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: so much Marlin's stuff and information to ask you about.

824
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: But thank you for coming on. And I do have

825
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: one last request. Can you give us one last His

826
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: name is Dan Aga.

827
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: Wait, let me give you one quick. When I was

828
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: talking about Andrew Miller, I was thinking of this also,

829
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: and I mentioned it the other day with the Marlins

830
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 2: having Cameron Maybin now, and I remember when Cameron Maybin,

831
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: who is another tremendous quality guy, when he came over

832
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: with Miller in that big trade with the Tigers when

833
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: Miguel Cabrera left. You know, Cameron Maybn was this young,

834
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: talented player and now he's had a nice career and

835
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: he gives the clubhouse some nice leadership, the fact that

836
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: he's been around, and I didn't want to fail to

837
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: mention him because he's he again is a nice quality

838
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: guy and he's been good for this team too.

839
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: Well. He's another one I wanted to mention to you

840
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: because or I at least get you to talk about.

841
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: But I actually slipped my mind as well. You watched

842
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: him come up. He struggled a little bit in the beginning, Yes,

843
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: ended up having a pretty good career. Like you said,

844
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you're staying in the MLB for ten

845
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: plus years or almost ten plus year or actually over

846
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: ten plus years now, which is amazing, I feel like

847
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: time flies. But anyways, you're doing something right. He wins

848
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: a World Series with the Astros and has all of

849
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: that experience to bring back. He's really been a guy

850
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: that I think has been a great bat off the bench. Definitely,

851
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: as you said, one of the best gloves you'll see

852
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: in the outfield. So I'm sure he's helped Brinson out

853
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: there because Brinson has the ability to be an a

854
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: lite outfielder. Yes, that's what I figured. And he takes

855
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: really good round to the ball. They're both so quick

856
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: out there, and the Marlins have the ability to With

857
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: Mabon and Brentson out there at the same time, that's

858
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: easily one of the best defensive outfields in the league

859
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: once the bats get going. I mean, that's that could

860
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: be something to be very excited about. I do want

861
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: to hear that one last. His name is Dan I'll

862
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: go because that was a request as well.

863
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if I if I yell at too loud,

864
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: I've I've already lost my voice a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: I'm working on something. I might lose it. I might

866
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Speaker 2: wake up my granddaughter in the other room if I

867
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Speaker 2: yell at too loud.

868
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Speaker 1: Well, we don't want to of any granddaughters.

869
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Speaker 2: The one part of it, if I don't get the

870
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Speaker 2: volume up there is that there was a sense of

871
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: what's the what's the term I want? It was like,

872
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: you guys don't know his name is Dan Uggla, so

873
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: it was kind of he had to tell who it was.

874
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: I was actually going to ask you the origin. I

875
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Speaker 1: was going to ask you the origin of that, and

876
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: you hit on it. I literally have it written in

877
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Speaker 1: my notes right here, ask the origin of his name

878
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: is Dan Augla. And I figured that's what it was.

879
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: Because I'm doing some broadcasting out here in Rhode Island

880
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: for the Newport Goals and the NCBL as summer collegiately,

881
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: and we have a couple guys with tough names in

882
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: the away broadcasters always come with the same questions of

883
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Speaker 1: the same guys, and I always have to say, his

884
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Speaker 1: name is this, his name is that. But it was

885
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Speaker 1: really funny to hear you kind of explain the story

886
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Speaker 1: behind his name is dan Auga. And it's great to

887
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: hear it one last time because unfortunately he's not hitting

888
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: home runs in the MLB anymore.

889
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Speaker 2: You know, that's a great point of Dov was talking

890
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Speaker 2: to some people the other day and the participants in

891
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: the home run Derby. Not to take anything away, I mean,

892
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: Bryce Harper, he could be fun to watch, but it's

893
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: just not like the home run Derby when you had

894
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 2: Stanton and Judge and all those guys. I understand why

895
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Speaker 2: certain guys just don't want to do it, but I'm thinking,

896
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, boy, you could bring back dan Uggla. You

897
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Speaker 2: could have a big poppy, you could have Echi Row

898
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Speaker 2: in the home run Derby and more people might watch.

899
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean he could have Barry Bonds. I mean,

900
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Speaker 1: remember we had the story coming out before but when

901
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Speaker 1: he was the hitting coach of the Morrows that he

902
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Speaker 1: had actually won a home run derby against the team,

903
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Speaker 1: and that was when he was going on forty eight,

904
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Speaker 1: forty nine years old. So I mean, those guys I'm

905
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Speaker 1: sure can still hit. I'm sure dan Ugla still has

906
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: the popeye forearms, and I'm sure you can still put

907
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: him into the upper deck at at Sunlife Stadium or

908
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: I think yeah, Snight Nope, Nope, hard Rock Stadium. Sorry,

909
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: that's that's the eighth name. I gotta I gotta keep

910
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: I gotta keep it fresh in my mind. But yeah,

911
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: hard Rock Stadium. But when he was playing, it was

912
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: either Land Shark, Sunlife, Joe, Robbie. That's a good trivia question.

913
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to I should have hit you with

914
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Speaker 1: that one earlier. But anyway, thank you Tommy for coming on.

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Speaker 1: One last thing, what's your prediction for the derby? Since

916
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Speaker 1: we're not having as impressive as players as you said,

917
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Speaker 1: who's your prediction to win the home rwner?

918
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not predicting, I'm picking. I made this pick

919
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Speaker 2: the other day on the air. Jeff Nelson went with

920
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Speaker 2: Hovey Baiez and I went with Kyle Schwarber. I tapped

921
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Speaker 2: into my Chicago sources and I sent out a text

922
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Speaker 2: to Lenn Casper and I said, hey, Lenny, give me

923
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Speaker 2: some words on Schwarber. And he goes, this guy hits bombs.

924
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Speaker 2: He's the long driver of the group and he's lost

925
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Speaker 2: thirty pounds. He's in great shape, and he said he

926
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Speaker 2: hadn't lost any muscle, So I'm going to go with Schwarber.

927
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Speaker 2: I just like the way he swings the bat.

928
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Speaker 1: He clubs some baseballs, and the long Driver's definitely been

929
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Speaker 1: good comparison to make. Anyway, Tommy, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: It was a pleasure and we're looking forward to seeing

931
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Speaker 1: you on the air as it's going to ramp up

932
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Speaker 1: in the second half of the season.

933
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Speaker 2: Correct, yeah, pretty soon. I think I'm back on from

934
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Speaker 2: the studio on Saturday.

935
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Speaker 1: But we're looking forward to it. Thanks again, Tommy.

936
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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a lot for having me. Hope, hope things

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Speaker 2: went well.