1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. I am Matt and I'm Ben. 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: We're here with our super producer Noel Brown. Uh. Now, 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Noel gets a lot of nicknames, right He's he's as 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: somebody who has very few nicknames. I'm always fascinated and 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: a bit envious of Noel. So what's his nickname this week? 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: It's Nold stunned phase or Brown nol stunned phase of 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Brown lays gentlemen, that's right. I'd like to point out 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: this is the first time that you've been within arm's 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: reach of Noel. You could reach out and touch him 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: right now. I've never had that before, Like that personal 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: Jesus song exactly what it is. Because we are here, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, in our brand new UH digs the 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: house Stuff Works headquarters has moved and they didn't leave 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: us behind. No, we tagged along. At least they haven't 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: found out that we're here yet. Yeah, at the very 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: least we are still kind of looking for agents Scully's arm. 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: But we can't get lost in the little things, folks. 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: We can't let small things like missing skeleton arms or 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: people possibly studying us with phasers, uh make us all 23 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: irritated and worried and angry, because if you think about it, 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: they're much much more important things to worry about. Yeah, 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: large things. Things that have that hot stuff that sometimes 26 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: the floor is but not all the time, you know, 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: lava magma and and huge vats of it that are 28 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: just waiting to explode out all onto you. So on 29 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: that note, let's begin with this story. Once upon a time, 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: after the Civil War but before the century, President Ulysses S. 31 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: Grant was so moved by the natural beauty of this 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: landscape out in Wyoming that uh he signed a bill 33 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: creating the first US National Park, oh and the first 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: national park in the world. And uh he created this 35 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: place for the benefit and enjoyment of the people. And 36 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: he further declared that timber mineral deposits natural curiosities and 37 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: wonders must be kept in their natural condition. What was 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the name of this place? That is yellow Stone National Park? 39 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: All the majestic beauty of it. We did in Coolest 40 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: Stuff on the Planet episode about this Ben and that's right, 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: unless you are a long time listener. There's something that 42 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: you might not No, no, Ben, you're not allowed to Nope. 43 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: If if they're really interested, they can find it, but 44 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: we're not telling them how to find that. All right, man, Okay, 45 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: you've got it. So uh, one thing about this it's 46 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: it's a nice story. It gets a little airbrush that 47 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: President Grant was so moved by this stuff. Uh, something 48 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: else happened to something else influenced the government's decision here. Yeah, 49 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: there were lobbyists and geological surveyors that convinced the government 50 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: that the land was unsuitable for a couple of things farming, ranching, mining, 51 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: some of the things that you would normally be using 52 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: that using it for for the economy at least um. 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: But they also said it would be spoiled by developers 54 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: coming through because it is this beautiful place. So they 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: went ahead and protected it really soon, right, Yeah, and 56 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: now we have this amazing national park. And of course, 57 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, nowadays, if somebody said for the people in 58 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: a political speech where in a bill, it might be 59 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: considered a little bit too politically controversial, you know. But 60 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: let's keep in mind, was before the numerous red scares 61 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: that we have talked about on this show. This was 62 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: before the very strange dichotomy that often rises, uh in 63 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: a two party system for a lot of the pr 64 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: really became a huge thing in politics. Well okay, it's 65 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: always been part of politics, but before it was an industry. Yes, yeah, 66 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: an industry. That's a good thing to say. But regardless, 67 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, like the inner state, like the library system, 68 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: we have a national park system. Uh. We have some 69 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: stats about Yellowstone just to try to, uh, just to 70 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: try to articulate how big this place is, because it's massive, right, Oh, yeah, 71 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: it's huge. It covers three thousand, four hundred and seventy 72 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: two square miles over two million acres. It also covers 73 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: sixty three air miles north to south and then fifty 74 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: four miles east to west. Yeah, and most of it 75 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: is in Wyoming, right, Uh. Actually, but three percent is 76 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: in Montana, and there's that one percent in Ohio. So 77 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: when someone talks about one percenters in reference to yellows 78 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: to National Park, they're probably talking about the small amount 79 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: of natural wildlife that lived there. And there are all 80 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: kinds of things you can see when you're there. There 81 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: are Native American sites like really old Native American sites, 82 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: super cool stuff there. Um, there's the Lake of course 83 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: that you see in all kinds of the pictures and 84 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: video you've ever seen it. Um, there's Old Faithful Oh yeah, yeah, 85 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: the world famous geyser. There's the I don't know, I 86 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: can't remember if Vivis and butt Head went to this 87 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: petrified forest or not. I think that was in California, 88 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: the one they went to, But there's a petrified forest there. Uh. 89 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: And then also thermophiles those creatures, extremophiles that live inside 90 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: places that biological life shouldn't exist or usually wouldn't exist, 91 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: right where you and I couldn't hang out. No, even 92 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: your favorite superhero action movie star could not hang out there. Yeah, 93 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: if you can listen to this podcast and understand it, 94 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't be able to live where they live. Now, 95 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: that's a little bit prejudice against thermophiles, Matt. We don't 96 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: know if they ever heard the show yet. It's true. 97 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean, their auditory abilities maybe far exceeding what I 98 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: am giving them credit. Well, thermophiles, if you're listening, please 99 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: write an email to us or I don't know, maybe 100 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: you guys use Twitter maybe anyway, they're also sixty seven 101 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: species of mammals, two species of which are bears. Yes, 102 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: was it was it Yogi bear? Is it Yellowstone? By 103 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: making that up? No, I don't remember. It was jelly, 104 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: so thank you know. Uh, Nolas Nola is our expert 105 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: on all sorts of things, and that is one of those. So, yes, 106 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: it was Yellowstone, just with a slight change. Well, uh, 107 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: some people would say that is a better name, but 108 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would agree. There's a certain 109 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: poetry to the word yellows soon. But these stats, these 110 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: physical stats, are not the only statistics we have, right, No, no, No. 111 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: One of the biggest things that you can look at 112 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: are the number of visitors that go to Yellowstone every year. 113 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: And if you look at the years from two thousand 114 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: six to two thousand twelve, each year over three million 115 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: people visited Yellowstone. Wow. Yeah, that's a lot of people, uh, 116 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: that are going through and you know there. I don't 117 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: know exactly how many are in there at any time. 118 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't know the number, the largest number, but I 119 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: do know that just with that many people fluctuating in 120 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: and out the traffic levels, there's got to be a 121 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: danger to at least tens of thousands of people at 122 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: any time. Oh yeah, yeah, just from the place. And 123 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: we'll get into some of that. So the highest attendance, uh, 124 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: to record. I believe even this might be wrong in 125 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: recent years, but I believe it was a little bit 126 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: over three point six million in two thousand and ten. 127 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: And this is not counting the employees as visitors. Now 128 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: there are over four thousand employees I think, Um, most 129 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: of them are working in concessions, so selling food to 130 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: the visitors. And that's a lot of people working concessions. 131 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Although this is a large area. You gotta remember that, sure, Um, 132 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: but oh, there are seven hundred and eighty people who 133 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: work for the park service themselves. Yeah, and and not 134 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: all of those would be year round, as you can imagine. Uh, 135 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: there are seasonal fluctuations in attendance, right, Visitors probably go 136 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,359 Speaker 1: down in winter except for the serious campers, and uh, 137 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: they're probably the same, they're probably a larger contingent of 138 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: people watching for forest fires at different times. So, Ben, 139 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: I have to say something. What's that? It's feeling a 140 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: little bit like a I don't know stuff you should 141 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: know episode right now, or maybe history class episode those 142 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: are good shows because we're just kind of telling people facts. 143 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think? Yeah, this is 144 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: not stuff you should know. This is not stuff you 145 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: missed in history class or Great America or whatever. No, 146 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, this is a very different show. So 147 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: why are we here, Matt? Why are we telling these 148 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: folks all of this stuff? That's absolutely right, Ben, Yellowstone 149 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: National Park sits atop the Yellowstone super Volcano or caldera, Right, Yeah, 150 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: a super volcano is what the name might make you 151 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: think of, a volcano capable of much more massive eruptions 152 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: than your average volcano. To steal a Yogi Bear quote, 153 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: We've found some different numbers about how much material is 154 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: released during an interruption, but it is enough to change, uh, 155 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: the landscape far beyond that which far beyond the landscape 156 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: changes you would expect from a regular volcano. But a 157 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: caldera is something a little bit different. Yeah, caldera is 158 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: one of the coolest things about this. It's a huge 159 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: crater that's formed from a previous volcanic eruption, So there 160 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: has to have been a massive volcano that erupted at 161 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: one point to even have a caldero there, and that's 162 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: when the mouth of the volcano actually collapses down and 163 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: you get this. It's kind of like a valley, I guess, 164 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: but it has a specific name of Caldera because it 165 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: is a specific thing, right, Yeah, that large crater. It's 166 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: almost like the the footprint or the fingerprint warning here 167 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: is a volcano. Yeah. So some experts, and some self 168 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: appointed experts, fear that Yellowstone may erupt in the near future. 169 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: So let's talk about where this fear comes from, Matt, 170 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: what would happen if an eruption occurred, and why some 171 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: people believe the United States government is covering up the 172 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: evidence while preparing in secret for the most massive eruption 173 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: in human history. Okay, so first, this isn't completely unfounded, 174 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: this fear that people have, because we know that the 175 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: yellow Stone supervolcano has erupted multiple times across history, not 176 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: just once, not just twice, but three times a volcano. Okay, sorry, 177 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: that was really bad. That was worth it. So this 178 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: is over the past two point one million years, right, 179 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: so yeah, a huge amount of time. But here's what 180 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: you need to know about these me and this is 181 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: why it's kind of fearful. These were larger than any 182 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: eruption in recorded human history. The interval between these eruptions 183 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: is a long time. This is a good thing. Uh 184 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand two, I think a roughly eight hundred 185 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: thousand years in between eruptions. That's the estimate, right, Yeah, 186 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's a good chunk of time. 187 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean it's gonna be happening within most 188 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: people's lifetimes. Sure, very few people even lived to one 189 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: hundred years, that's correct, And you know humans have only 190 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: been around for a certain amount of time. So another 191 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: thing to note here, Ben, is that each of these 192 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: eruptions triggered more or less powerful eruptions and lava flow, 193 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: so they varied a bit, I guess, depending on well, Okay, 194 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm no expert. I was going to go into the 195 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: actual amount of magma that's kept in that there's a 196 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: pocket underneath the caldera that's that's just constantly fluctuating, and 197 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: as that changes, it changes the effects that happened above 198 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: when it erupts. One of the good comparisons for this 199 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: that we've all heard before goes back to earthquakes. You 200 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: hear about uh timblores, or you hear about four quakes 201 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: or after shocks, these less powerful vibrations or seismic events 202 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: that occur, uh kind of book ending an earthquakes so 203 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: that this happens as well. With some of these eruptions. 204 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: There are of lava flows that let you know something's coming, 205 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: and then there are smaller options afterwards, after shocks, shivers 206 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: from the earth. Great. It all just makes me want 207 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: to grasp the floor and the wall and just make 208 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: sure everything. Yeah, okay, everything's good. Now there's one other 209 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: really important thing, right, Oh yeah, when was the last eruption? 210 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: Ben Matt, I'm glad you asked. The last big eruption, 211 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the last super volcanic eruption, one of the big cataclysmic 212 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: ones was wait for it, six hundred and forty thousand 213 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: years ago. Now, hold on, We said earlier that it 214 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: takes the interval is something between six hundred and eight 215 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand years. We did, We did. So we're inside 216 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: that window. We're in the window. We are in the window. 217 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: And this eruption, which occurred in uh six sixty thou 218 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: years ago, was two thousand, five hundred times larger than 219 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: the Mount St. Helen's eruption in Washington back in right 220 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: just before I was a born. Yes, two thousand, five 221 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: hundred times larger the world as you would know it 222 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: at this time. And keep in mind that after millions 223 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: of years, of course, the coastline changes and the but 224 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: the land mass is still kind of roughly analogous. So 225 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: for our purposes, what we recognize as the United States 226 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: is just covered in ash. It goes around the world, 227 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: ashes falling everywhere. It reminds me that sky rim dlc um. 228 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: What's the name of it? You you might have to 229 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: remind you. I know what you're talking. Is it soul 230 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: s theme, Soulstein something with an S? Yes, yes, Okay, 231 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: while Ben, we've both played it. Yeah, wow, I feel 232 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: like Noel is judging us. But anyway, whatever, man, it's 233 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: a pretty good game. So the so the the things 234 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: that happen here that are important for our comparison today 235 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: are that the United States are this roughly north American 236 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: land mass that we're talking about is not the only victim, right, No, no, no, 237 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: because this that ash has an effect, right, it's going 238 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: to it's gonna do a couple of things. One of 239 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: them is that it's going to No. No, the the 240 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: ash that's a huge, important thing that's gonna have a 241 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: lot of effects across the entire world. One of them 242 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: is likely decreasing temperatures around the planet, not just in 243 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: the major affected area right near the super volcano. Uh. 244 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Climate change, while short lived I think years or decades, 245 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: would have a catastrophic effect on ops across the world, 246 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: agriculture especially in the US or North America even and 247 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: the local economies. If this occurred the modern day would 248 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: be severely damage that goes without saying, but whoops, we 249 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: said it, and locals would likely be forced out of 250 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: their homes for at least some time. Oh yeah, there'd 251 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: be people all across the US and Canada just trying 252 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: to get the heck away. And you can see some more. 253 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Um maybe sensationalist is a good word for it. Visions 254 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: dystopian visions of people forming massive mobs at Canada and 255 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: in Mexico scrambling to get into safety, or massive migration 256 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: to the East coast of the United States would be 257 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: less damaged. But we do have good news, ladies and gentlemen. 258 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: The odds are, according to various official sources, minimal. The 259 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: odds of an interruption at least, yes, you can breathe 260 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: a little more easily now, in in in the knowledge 261 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: that the U. S Geological Survey estimates that the chances 262 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: are seven hundred and thirty thousand to one that this 263 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: will occur. Is it in your life, in any person 264 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: who's alives lifetime, or is that just in the next 265 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: in your lifetime? You're gonna be okay, that that's some 266 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: pretty darn good odds. You have other things to worry about, right, Well, yeah, 267 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. What's the thing. The U S 268 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: Geological Survey aren't the only people putting out numbers. Now, 269 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: they're probably one of the most reputable groups that you could, 270 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: like take these numbers and go, okay, I'm gonna trust 271 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: that if you believe that they are sincere right. But 272 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: there are other odds. Oh yeah, there are others ranging 273 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: from ten thousand to one, which is significantly greater um 274 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: and then you know, goes up to a million to 275 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: one chance a million to one. Well, I like those odds. 276 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: And here's another thing. While we're playing with numbers, if 277 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: we look at the power of the past three massive eruptions, 278 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: we see a decrease in overall eruptive power. So we 279 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: said earlier that the most recent one was two thousand, 280 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: five hundred times stronger than St. Helen's, but the earliest one, 281 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: the first one we can trace, was seven thousand times stronger, 282 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: and the one after that was six thousand times stronger. 283 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: So it may be that if or when Yellowstone does erupt, 284 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the force people are anticipating. Yeah, it 285 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: will only be times stronger. Yeah right, no big whoop. 286 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: But that you know that in a way brings us 287 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: to UH an important part of this conversation. Earthquakes and 288 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: eruptions can be difficult, devilishly difficult to predict, UH, and 289 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, we've got a side note here. We 290 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have heard about this, but 291 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: in UH two thousand and nine, there was an earthquake 292 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: in Italy called the La Kila earthquake, and six scientists 293 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: were taken to court because they did not predict it. 294 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Somebody took him into the room and said you had 295 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: one job, and came talking to and then but but 296 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: later they were cleared right there, the charges were cleared 297 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: against him because I mean, come on, doing the best 298 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: we can, man. So this is a disastrous, cataclysmic thing 299 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: that while probably inevitable, and the big picture is also 300 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: probably not going to occur in your lifetime, probably probably likely. 301 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: That's the official consensus. But that's not the end of 302 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: the story, is it. No, No, no, no. Some people 303 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: really think that the yellow Stone eruption is imminent, that 304 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: it's coming any day now that we're due for it. 305 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: It's too late, like we're already past the do day. 306 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: We're just kind of waiting for the moment. And in 307 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: a in a big picture estimate, you could say that 308 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: because we are in that chronological window now, that we 309 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: are overdue. But I I don't know, because two hundred 310 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: thousand years, while it's just astap in the in the 311 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Earth's life overall, it's a heck of a long time 312 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: for people like you and I and most people listening 313 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: to this, I would completely agree with you there. The 314 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: The other thing, though, is that we've read a lot 315 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: of places that some people think the U. S. Geological 316 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: Survey is a part of this. I think this conspiracy 317 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: or cover up of some sort that they believe that 318 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: if if people found out, man, if people found out 319 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: what was about to happen in the next even if 320 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: it was a hundred years maybe people would stop having kids, 321 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, who knows, you could. You can 322 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: think about it all day long. All the bad things 323 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: that would happen. The investment in those areas would tank. 324 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: It's like why building a house that's gonna burn down 325 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: or elt. But then there's another question if for people 326 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: who believe in this conspiracy theory, what if the predictions 327 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: are accurate. What let's say that the U S Geological 328 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: Survey and the highest ranks of world governments, Canadian, Mexican, US, 329 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: the hallowed halls of government know that these predictions say 330 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: the volcanic eruption will occur within like the next five 331 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: years or something, and they say, well, we have to 332 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: release this information. Well what if they release the information 333 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: and because it's difficult to predict these events, nothing happens. 334 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, that's that would be a huge problem. 335 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: What if they believe it's going to happen but they 336 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: get it wrong, then you've lost because then you you 337 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: have a mass migration beforehand, right to get everybody out 338 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: of the areas, right, and all those economies collapse. The 339 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: people have lost billions of dollars. Yeah, and there are 340 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: now humans displaced all over the place. I kind of 341 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: like the way I said that humans displaced all over 342 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: the place. I know it's placed twice, but I still 343 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: enjoy it as a nice, nice flow to it. Now, 344 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: this this is interesting when we say this, and let's 345 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: fast forward past all of the other points that are 346 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: valid and should be made. But we already we already 347 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: know what these are addressing in past episodes. It's it's 348 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: difficult to think that this data, which could be compiled 349 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: conceivably by other people, there's not necessarily a a way 350 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: to keep seismic data secret that efficiently. You know. Yeah, 351 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: there are numerous places that are looking at it at 352 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: all times, and the part Service themselves they say that 353 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: they keep a very close eye on it. So here 354 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: it's it's also true that it's tough for so many 355 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: people to keep a secret, right if this thing is 356 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: coming now. Theorists, however, have presented several several pieces of 357 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: evidence about why they believe the Yellowstone Calderum maybe on 358 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: the way to big eruption number four. So one thing 359 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: you should know is that in this area there are 360 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: earthquakes almost constantly, but they're very very small. There is 361 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: activity beneath the anyone walking around on Yellowstone beneath your 362 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: feet at all times. It's just a swarm, essentially, a 363 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: swarm of tiny little earthquakes, because there's a lot of 364 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: movement of the Earth's crust in that area. So in 365 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: March of twenty fourteen, Yellowstone experiences a four point eight 366 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: magnitude earthquake, much larger than the usual trembles we're talking about. This, 367 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: in fact, is the largest earthquake in the park in 368 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: thirty four years. And that's big, So that at least 369 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: clues you in that something is happening, right, And that's 370 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: what makes a lot of people kind of freaked out, 371 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: because if you don't know a lot about the history 372 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: of that area, you don't know a lot about you know, 373 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: you're not a geologist. That number and that idea scares you. 374 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: It scares me a little bit. I mean, it is 375 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: a scary thing for experts as well. Absolutely, But you 376 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: can look at it in a greater context than you 377 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: know Joe Schmo Matt Frederick walking around the street going 378 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: oh god, um So, but here's the other thing that 379 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: came on the heels of a discovery that the molten 380 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: magma chamber, this huge thing we're talking about Uh, it's 381 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: much larger than we originally thought. It's fifty five miles long, 382 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: eighteen miles wide, and maybe as deep as nine miles 383 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: under the Earth's surface, filled with nagmas. Yeah, the bad stuff. 384 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: This the stuff that when it's on the floor, you 385 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: can't touch it. Right, repreence to say that earthquakes in 386 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: this park are taken very seriously. As we said, there's 387 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: another piece of evidence. Some folks reported seeing a herd 388 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: of bison, a large herd of bison fleeing the area, 389 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: and this went somewhat viral and people were saying, well, 390 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: can animals predict disaster, which we have a brain stuff 391 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: video about The answer is yes? Or is this some 392 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: sort of hoax? Government representatives replied that this was just 393 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: a typical migration, that the bison were also furthermore, running 394 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: into the park, not out of it, And there are 395 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: some great articles you can read about this on a 396 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: website called Inquisitor, and Inquisitor had had a nice little 397 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: crack there when they said, well, also, if they the 398 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: bison are smart to run because Native American tribes are 399 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: petitioning for hunting licenses, Yeah, they knew, they knew. Another 400 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: thing you can look up Ben and everyone listening is 401 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: back in July a segment of Firehole, Lake Tribe and 402 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: yellow Stone. Oh you know it just melted. Yeah, okay, 403 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: so there. This is not the most disturbing thing. But 404 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: I do admit that it sounds like some real end 405 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: of the world stuff for asphalt to just start melting 406 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: into what has been described as an oatmeal like consistency. 407 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: That's freaky. That's strange, especially if you're the one who 408 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: discovered it. Yeah, just drive it on, uh huh, because 409 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: what what happens? Then your your tires pop, right, maybe 410 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: if it's hot enough and you stand up on your car, 411 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: and then Matt the game you've referenced earlier is true. 412 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: The road is lava right ear uh So, But that's 413 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: not even the most disturbing thing. Man. Here is the 414 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: most disturbing part, at least in my opinion, is that 415 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: when asked about this, when talking to reporters about this part, 416 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: spokesman Dan Hoddle said, this can happen quite a bit 417 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: because of the springs, the same you guys, the same heat, 418 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: the same magma powering these hot springs is melting the 419 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: roads at times. Yeah, it makes you think maybe we 420 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: really shouldn't be very near this thing. Maybe human civilization 421 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: should kind of get the hint and back away a 422 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: couple of steps. And this ties into so many other theories, 423 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: the idea that these massive internment slash refugee camps are 424 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: being built in undisclosed locations around the US. You can't 425 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: see pictures of those camps, by the way you can, 426 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: and there are theories about what their uses. But this 427 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to me. This brings true 428 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: for me that if there was a major natural disaster, 429 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: that you could have a place to put people. Um. 430 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've talked about FEMA camps, We've 431 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: talked about all this other stuff, and this is the 432 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: first time that it for me, it doesn't seem as 433 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: scary when I think, when I frame it in this way, Oh, 434 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: I see it because it seems like working for a 435 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: greater good. There. Yeah, like there is a reason and 436 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: a good reason to have them. Um, because you know, 437 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: I go you know me, Ben, I go through my 438 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: paranoia abouts every once in a while and have to 439 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: refocus a bit. So here here's something else that we 440 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: should say. Uh. I was thinking about this as well, 441 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: Met and I don't know about you listeners, but usually 442 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: when a government is planning something, they plan for probabilities 443 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: for contingencies, right, and they order these in terms of likelihood. 444 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: But I was curious, so I started looking into I 445 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: started looking into a strange thing that I had never 446 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: thought of, which was how far out a governmental agency 447 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: in history has warned about a natural disaster because we 448 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: know that, you know, one of the biggest one's recent 449 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: memory in the United States, of course, is Hurricane Katrina, right, 450 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: And we know that before Hurricane Katrina hit, people were 451 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: being told to evacuate the city. Um, whether they were 452 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: being helped evacuate the city, of course, is a very 453 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: different story. And we could actually do a Katrina episode. 454 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: Hurricanes are notoriously difficult to predict, of course, and they 455 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: had they had this warning based on what we all 456 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: in the public eye perceived as the quickest available information, 457 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: the best they could do. But has there ever been 458 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: a case where there was an inevitable thing far enough 459 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: out that the government of any country would warn people? 460 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: And if so, is there a threshold for that? Would 461 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: you say you have to move off of this island 462 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: because rising sea levels are going to drown you but 463 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: when you know, and then it's an interesting question that 464 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: I haven't answered yet. Now I know that the Maldives, 465 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: if we're talking about the uprising sea levels, they have 466 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: already said stuff like this appealed to the United Nations. Um, 467 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't know about the other stuff. 468 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: What a terrible what a terrifying secret to keep if 469 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: you thought, I know, I know interruption is coming, but 470 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be in the next what ten 471 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: fifteen years? But if I tell or maybe even longer. 472 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: But if I tell people, then I'm going to go 473 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: ahead and ruin things, uh, in a similar way that 474 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: the volcano would. I don't know, and and listeners, to 475 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: be completely honest, I have no idea, Matt, You and 476 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: I are not volcanologists, were not seismologists. We do know 477 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: that from what we could find. Despite the worries, the 478 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: sources are saying that this is a highly unlikely event 479 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: up there with kind of like a gamma ray burst 480 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: hitting the planet, but not near as dangerous as a 481 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: gamma ray burst. Yeah, it's almost the exact same thing. 482 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: It's an inevitability, but the amount of time before it 483 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: happens is unknown, And uh, while it is unknown, it 484 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: is not It doesn't seem like a pressing thing at 485 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: least from the predictions and the solid numbers that we 486 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: currently have. So we would like to we would like 487 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: to ask what you think here, because we know that 488 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: there are so many again, there's so many scenario runners, right, 489 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: there's so many possibilities with this. During times of natural disaster, 490 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: there is a possibility that the global order of the 491 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: world in the geopolitical sense, shifts, and we're encountering these 492 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: big questions that at this point, according to what we 493 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: could find, do not have answers. But we want to 494 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: know what you think, ladies and gentlemen. Will the Yellowstone Caldera, 495 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: the Yellowstone supervolcano erupt again in our lifetimes and not 496 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: just not just something with a lava flow, but one 497 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: of those cataclysmic, biblical level eruptions, you know, blotting out 498 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: the sky darkness for days, people dying of some disease 499 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: called the dust, you know. And I don't want to 500 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: get the dust. I don't want to get the dust either, man. 501 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: But could it happen? And if so, why why do 502 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: you think so? Or is this just all fearmongering? You know? 503 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: That's another possibility. It's definitely impossibility. I want to stick 504 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: personally with and you know, tell me what you think 505 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: about this, but I really want to stick with the 506 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: hopefulness with this one because it seems like if I 507 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: just became and I can, I have a tendency to 508 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: obsess with these kind of things. Ben, I don't know 509 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: if you knew this, and I just don't want to 510 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: go there right now because it would be bad. What 511 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: is that I'm trying to think of the movie where 512 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: the entire planet just starts getting destroyed. It was a 513 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: role in Emeric movie that came out not long ago, 514 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: but just where the entire movie where the entire planet 515 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: is just falling apart around and that's what this feels 516 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: like to me, that kind of dread and I'm trying 517 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: not to think about it. Yeah, that's true. I'll check 518 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: it out. I've yet to see two thousand twelve. We 519 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: can tell you, however, that the predictions for the massive 520 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: eruption occurring in are incorrect, Ladies and gentlemen. As we 521 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: record this, it is February, and I don't know why 522 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: I emphasized twenty, but point is, we lucked out so 523 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: here's to at least another few years, right, Matt cheers, 524 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: and we hope that you enjoyed this episode as much 525 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: as we enjoyed making it. We'd also like to ask 526 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: for your help. Would you like to suggest an episode 527 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: that Matt and I can cover in the future. Uh, 528 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: do you have some listener mail that you would like 529 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: us to read on the air? And oh, and there's 530 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: one more question I almost forgot. We have somebody who 531 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: asked a specific question for Noel Brown or super producer 532 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: Noel Stunt Phazer Brown. Uh, and Noel, would you like 533 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: to hear the question? Okay? Uh? So we said we 534 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: were moving to our new office, and we said we would. 535 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: Uh we put some pictures out later which are on 536 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: the way. And Uh, Claytonmorrow on Twitter wants to know 537 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: what does super producer Noel think of all this? So, 538 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: so what's going on there? What do you think about 539 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: this move? Good move? It's a better, better place. Yeah, 540 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: your new place looks nice. And uh, you're probably going 541 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: to be making an appearance on this show in the 542 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: near future. Huh spoiler you know, if if nothing else, 543 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: you'll be able to hear me when I make aufanic 544 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: confidence here because I'm closer than mis that's true, and 545 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: you are the funniest one of the three of us. 546 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: We really need to get you a talkback Mike. I 547 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: think that's like a necessity. We just a little Mike. 548 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: That SIT's right there, So let us know if you 549 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: have any questions from Matt Agent Scully, super producer, Noel Stunt, 550 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: Fraser Brown, or myself, or a suggestion for a new 551 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: nickname for UH for our producer UH. That's all for 552 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: us right now. If you have any other things you 553 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: would like to send us, please do don't hesitate. We 554 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: don't always have time to respond in a punctual manner, 555 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: but we do read every email and now. Our address 556 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: is conspiracy at how stuff works dot com. 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