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Speaker 1: Ten days of two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen days is two weeks.

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Speaker 3: I work five days a week.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, swiperl and welcome to No Bus, the only

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Speaker 1: Survivor podcast that brings a butter knife to a gunfight.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, May seventh, and we're recapping the thirteenth and

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Speaker 1: pen ultimate episode of Survivor Winners at War. So watch

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Speaker 1: your spoilers out there.

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Speaker 4: I'm J.

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Speaker 1: Skeets and joining us here by the fire. Tas Mellis.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to sit by me at the fire. I

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Speaker 4: got some serious onion breath. Had some Emerald City bagels

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Speaker 4: this morning, stay away.

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Speaker 1: Did you use a butter knife?

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Speaker 4: Put anything on them? You bet you.

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Speaker 1: We also got the Bearded one, Trey Kirby. Heyot hey yo,

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Speaker 1: hey yo, the international Man of Mystery taking it to

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Speaker 1: the max. Yell us friends, really, we got a nice

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Speaker 1: lag with you today. That's excellent and last, but not least,

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Speaker 1: making the magic happen. It's JD. Hello, there he is,

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Speaker 1: and here we are talking Survivor. Cliff's Notes Cole's Notes

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Speaker 1: for you people in Canada from last night's two hour episode.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy voted out, Nick voted out Natalie rich As when

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Speaker 1: it comes to fire token. My god, she's like Scrooge

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Speaker 1: McDuck there swimming in her gold coins and her fire tokens,

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Speaker 1: handing out immunities to everybody she likes. Okay, so we're

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Speaker 1: not going to tackle this one scene by scene though,

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Speaker 1: Guys like we have in the past, said I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions to throw at you again from

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Speaker 1: this two hour episode, which was a I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you. I thought it was a little disjointed. It

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Speaker 1: was just a strange pace to it and sort of

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Speaker 1: longer scenes at times, and then they felt like we're needed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It was a little weird. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: agreeing with that. Yeah, it was this song.

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Speaker 4: It was a B to the no hold on, let

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Speaker 4: me do that again. It's the bo ri and to

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Speaker 4: the G that's a bit of an usher, but it

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Speaker 4: didn't really work out. It was long. Actually, let me

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Speaker 4: bring up this a tweet that we got from Olivia,

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Speaker 4: longtime No Dunks fan, great photographer out in Portland. Usually

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Speaker 4: they do the one shining moment recap in the finale.

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Speaker 4: Is that right? Because Olivia pointed out that they did

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Speaker 4: it in the penultimate episode, Does that mean that the

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Speaker 4: last episode is just so good they couldn't fit it in,

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Speaker 4: Or was this second last episode, what I think, just

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's a bit of both. I heard

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Speaker 1: Rob and Fishback talk about this on their podcast this morning.

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Speaker 1: Last night's episode two hour episode did feel like it

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Speaker 1: was a decision maybe made throughout the season here from

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Speaker 1: CBS because of maybe the virus, maybe the suddenly CBS

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Speaker 1: is like, if you guys want two hours here, you

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Speaker 1: can do that, And they took what was probably going

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Speaker 1: to be a nine minute episode or even just a

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Speaker 1: normal hour episode, and then like oddly repackaged it as

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Speaker 1: that two hour thing we got last night. But she

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Speaker 1: is right, we've never seen that super long recap at

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Speaker 1: the end of the second last episode. It's usually at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the final episode, which sort of makes

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Speaker 1: a lot more sense if you're a new sort of

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Speaker 1: person jumping in here and you're like, oh, what is

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Speaker 1: this finale? Okay, oh this is what happened this season. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah. I think a little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: Jad I don't know if you agree with that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that it's weird because it

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Speaker 5: seems like every single episode except this one could have

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Speaker 5: easily been two hours, right, Yeah, everything was so jam packed,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, I don't know, it was a weird decision.

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Speaker 5: I would have liked to see it spent, like them

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Speaker 5: to spend some time on how people spent their tokens

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Speaker 5: on that last day, because we only saw Denise by

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Speaker 5: I felt like there could have been some more stuff.

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Speaker 5: I mean that said, there was some kind of cool

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Speaker 5: in Survivors. So one thing that I will say is

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Speaker 5: week should be bonkers, right it should, because we got

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Speaker 5: somebody coming back. And I saw Jeff say that it's

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Speaker 5: Zoom reunion will probably be pretty short. Yeah, which is fine.

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Speaker 5: That's all fine is put it in the show. Put

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Speaker 1: Trey, did you think last night episode watching the whole

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Speaker 1: thing like this is how I felt. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: going to get to this battleback challenge from the people

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Speaker 1: on Edge? Like? When is this happening in this episode?

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Speaker 1: And as we got deeper and deeper into the two hours,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we're not going to see this. I thought

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe they'll do that sneaky thing where they start

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Speaker 1: the challenge right, you know, Jeff gets them all there,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Whoever wins this gets back in the game,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll see you next week on the finalees or whatever.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even get that. I couldn't believe it. We're

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Speaker 1: getting it in the final episode of Who Comes Back

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Speaker 1: in This Game? Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I was shocked, you know that we didn't see something

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Speaker 2: on Edge of Extinction. So I was thinking, all right,

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Speaker 2: they're just prepping us to see this final battle. We'll

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Speaker 2: week's episode. Clearly that didn't happen. All we got was

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Speaker 2: the stone throne there on edge of extinction. But I'm

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Speaker 2: with you, JD. Jeff has said this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: the longest Survivor finale we've had, and honestly, fine with me.

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Speaker 2: Give me all the action. I don't need to see

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Speaker 2: a zoom with twenty five people on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the zoom will I mean you can do

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Speaker 2: I mean, sure Jeff has a phone in one of

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Speaker 5: They can't even tease what's what the next season is

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Speaker 5: gonna be? Which is the highlight of that reunion show anyways, right.

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Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah. But though I did see CBS social

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Speaker 1: media accounts they said Survivor forty one is it's coming

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Speaker 1: like it's returning in the fall, is what they said.

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Speaker 1: But they haven't shot that yet.

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Speaker 2: Now are you saying we better get it?

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Speaker 1: Where's that song disappeared too?

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Speaker 1: We got a little tickle there at the end. The

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Speaker 2: I'm imagining we'll get a half hour performance of Jeff

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why Jeff's like, you're gonna love this three

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Speaker 1: just gonna be forty five minutes of him playing that song. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody hates it. So you slipped it in there, JD.

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Speaker 1: You brought up that scene that you liked between Tony

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Speaker 1: start provoking question from last night to our episode. Just

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Speaker 1: how many d's are in a Survivor week? Well, what's

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Speaker 1: the answer leader of it? Is it five? Is it seven?

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Speaker 1: Like a normal week? Who's rate?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's pretty hard because both have got a

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Speaker 6: strong case because I mean it's the same in quarantine.

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Speaker 6: Right now, no one really knows what date is. I

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Speaker 6: know Thursdays because we're talking Survivor. But that's it. Every

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Speaker 6: But yeah, so let me get this right. Tony was

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Speaker 6: saying fourteen days is two weeks correct, Jeremy was saying, no, Jeremy,

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Speaker 6: Jeremy Jarreedy, Jeremy saying fourteen days is two weeks.

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Speaker 1: So that's right.

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Speaker 6: It was one of those converse where you're kind of like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe there's only ten.

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Speaker 6: Days because you know it's five there's five work days

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Speaker 6: whatever he was saying.

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Speaker 1: But it was definitely confusing.

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Speaker 6: And it was definitely a sign when you've been out

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're confused because they're all sort of in a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, well, I mean I think they were

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Speaker 1: The difference was Jeremy is saying, when you're out here

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Speaker 1: every hour of every day, you are playing Survivor because

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Speaker 7: Tony, who all wes see is playing every single second

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Speaker 7: he's out there, is saying no, no, no. On the

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Speaker 7: days we don't have challenges, I'm totally checked out. I'm

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Speaker 7: just living the law of the Island're not.

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Speaker 1: You're building spy ness and you're like running around like

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Speaker 1: a like a chicken with his heads cut off, Like, no,

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Speaker 1: you're not. So that part was hilarious to me. The

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Speaker 1: I take off here. How about this.

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Speaker 2: There are only three days in a Survivor week. You

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Speaker 2: got an off day, the reward day, and the immunity

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Speaker 2: slash vote off day. I always wonder, how are you

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Speaker 2: conceiving of time when you're out there, right, because you're

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Speaker 2: out there for thirty nine days, but the season takes

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Speaker 2: fourteen weeks. So are you thinking, all right, we're gonning, Uh,

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Speaker 2: this will be technically the next episode. Are you thinking

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Speaker 2: in terms of episodes?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Wow, that's great question. Maybe some of

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you've played a couple times and you've seen

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Speaker 1: yourself on TV and how it unfolds that, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: you can wrap your head around it. I think a

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Speaker 1: newbie would have no clue right from Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I say, there's thirty nine days in

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Speaker 5: the Survivor week. It's just you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of overtime, I do.

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Speaker 1: I wish JD. Maybe you did it because you're you're

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Speaker 1: sneaky good at this. Did you freeze your your television

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Speaker 1: that they had made?

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Speaker 5: I was looking. I was good. I tried to this

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like super color coded. It appeared to be right,

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Speaker 1: really funny that scene. What do you guys, Let's talk Jeremy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll go to him first. What did you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I almost think what game did Jeremy play?

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Speaker 2: He was basically a pawn for most of this He

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Speaker 2: Tony did. Right, Jeremy just never got a chance to

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Speaker 2: People are considering them threats from day one, but Tony

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Speaker 5: I kind of disagree with that. I think that both

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Speaker 5: And Jeremy he is just such a charismatic guy, and

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Speaker 5: and he hasn't. If you don't think that he's grown

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Speaker 5: I don't know, like if I'm a player, if I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, he's You're right, he's very likable.

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Speaker 1: And that's been alarming to see. Same thing with Kim

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Speaker 1: and you maybe get that on Ben and maybe word

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Speaker 1: Tony then knew all the information and was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: because we even had that little moment after Jeremy gets

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Speaker 2: Me just pointed out that he didn't really have a

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Speaker 2: Ben Camp He's been a buffoon basically out there. He's

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Speaker 4: I'll jump in here. I agree with Trey's assessment at

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Speaker 4: the beginning of what he said there that Jeremy, I

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Speaker 4: heck is anyone using that language other than the survivor

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Speaker 4: We're calling it the penn aal time step of the war.

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Speaker 4: Can you use this language in your testimonial please, because

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Speaker 4: But I thought he said that off the top, but

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Speaker 4: he was voted off the tribal council and then said, hey,

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Speaker 4: He really has just been laying back. I think if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing when we are comparing sort

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Speaker 1: I think he was scrambling. He didn't do enough, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know. When I started watching, Wendell seemed to

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Speaker 1: It's very musical today here great better. What did everybody

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy that more with no whispering?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was a it was a refreshing change

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. We didn't talk about Jeremy giving the coin

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Speaker 1: Because she didn't because she got to flip it on

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Speaker 5: I think I think Michelle's gone no, I mean, you're right,

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Speaker 1: Have been a tie. Two votes on Ben, two votes

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Speaker 1: he couldn't play his idol in that instance. I don't

434
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: think right.

435
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 5: I think that Tony thinks that he can beat everybody,

436
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 5: so and he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to

437
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 5: piss off Yes, Sarah, So I don't think that happens.

438
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 5: I think Michelle goes right right.

439
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: I think I actually would add to that. I think

440
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: Tony thought he could beat everybody, thinks he could beat

441
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: everybody except for Jeremy, which is a big reason why

442
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: Jeremy was sent packing. I think he was the one

443
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: guy that he was maybe a little worried about with

444
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 1: his relationships over there, his likability factor being the underdog

445
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: in this season against Tony being in control like the

446
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: the you know, the the mafia boss that he is

447
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: and that they've alluded to even over there on the jury. Yeah,

448
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: I think Tony's making the right move running with definitely.

449
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: It's really it's really Sarah that's the fascinating part. Will

450
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: the jury see something in her and she's played a

451
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: great game, I mean she really has. Will they award

452
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: that over Let's say if it's Tony, because anyone else

453
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: there with them, it's coming down to Tony and Sarah, right,

454
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: maybe Michelle maybe, And we can get into making the

455
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: case for all of them.

456
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: A little bit later.

457
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 5: My only concern is that Tony is playing such a

458
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 5: great game that it might actually be weirdly too under

459
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 5: the radar. I don't think that the jury really has

460
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: a sense of just how great of a game he's

461
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 5: been playing, just because I don't know. It's just a

462
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 5: sense I have because he's just so he's perceived as

463
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 5: not a threat by anybody, inexplicably, you know.

464
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: But aren't they Like Trey said, he has no votes

465
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: against him. He's been to like ten tribal councils. I mean,

466
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: if that continues and he gets there and we've heard

467
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: the jury like audibly say like again, mafia boss. Oh,

468
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: everything he says is happening. He's been on the right

469
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: side of the vote. I think every time they're gonna

470
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: be like, aren't they going to be like, how did

471
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: nobody vote for this guy?

472
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 4: Right?

473
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 5: But he hasn't gotten a vote because nobody sees him

474
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 5: as a threat. That's what it tells me. And I

475
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 5: think that Sarah, well.

476
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: That's not true, because Kim was saying he was a threat.

477
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: We've had other saying and then he just went on

478
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: that immunity run that was a.

479
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 2: And Michelle said to Sarah's face, Tony's running the game,

480
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: and she says, how do you know that? And she says,

481
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: perception is reality. I imagine that Michelle is not the

482
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: only one who thinks Tony's in charge.

483
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 5: In the game still, but on the jury, who thinks

484
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 5: he's a threat or who thought that he is a threat.

485
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that if Tony and Sarah are

486
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 5: sitting next together, next to each other at the end

487
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 5: and let's say it's who, let's say it's been I

488
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 5: think that Sarah can plausibly say I have been controlling

489
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 5: Tony this whole time, which in a way she has,

490
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 5: because he has been reluctant to do anything after he

491
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 5: blindsided her her that one time with I think it

492
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 5: was Sophie. She got pissed off and said, hey, if

493
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 5: our relationship is over, if if you do that to

494
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 5: me again, or if I if I get voted out,

495
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 5: we're done. And he he has literally been under her

496
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 5: thumb this whole time since then because he doesn't want

497
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 5: to jeopardize that relationship. And he even says to players, Okay,

498
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 5: yeah this this movie, you want to do this move? Okay,

499
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 5: I got I got check with Sarah. I got check

500
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 5: with Sarah. Yeah, you know what I mean.

501
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're saying, right there, we know that Tony

502
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: has won more immunities than Sarah, we know that Tony

503
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: has pulled more moves than Sarah, and we know that

504
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: other tribe mates think he's running the game. I don't

505
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: understand really her argument in that case.

506
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: And he currently has an idol too, right, which may

507
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: prevent people.

508
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: And he has saved multiple people from going home, and

509
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: like you're saying, tass, he's got an idol.

510
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, But her her argument is that Tony and

511
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 5: I worked together and we discussed every single move that

512
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 5: Tony made, and he wouldn't make a move without me,

513
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: So therefore I am in control of this game. That's

514
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: the argument to me. And I think that.

515
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: Except for the one move that he went against her

516
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: one on that one.

517
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 5: Right, that's right, but he never did that again. He

518
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 5: hasn't done that again and.

519
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: She hasn't done it ever. Though. That's the question is

520
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: are we going to get a Russell Hant's Bitter jury

521
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: or you guys played the Green Great jury?

522
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a it's it's it's a it's

523
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: The argument is who is in control of the game.

524
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 5: And as Michelle says, perception is reality. She's talking about

525
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 5: about Tony. But I think that the perception could be

526
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 5: in the final arguments on the jury that Sarah was

527
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 5: in control of the game. Sarah Tony is like a

528
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 5: pitbull that she has attacked on people. That's a plausible

529
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 5: argument to me.

530
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, that's that would have to be sort of

531
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: the case I think she makes because there's not a

532
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: whole lot else. I mean, look, she's done these little

533
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: things like I think Ben was a great example we

534
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: saw last night. Sarah's really good at like sort of

535
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: planting seeds right like so to speak, like Okay, let's

536
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: let you think this is your move, but this is

537
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: actually our move and we're telling you to do this.

538
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: And that worked perfectly, and that was a bit of

539
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: that was a bit of Tony too. I think he

540
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: deserves some credit. Like they work really really well together,

541
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: as hilarious as they are yelling at each other from

542
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: time to time. They've they've proven it. I just I

543
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: don't see it. And Jennie, you remember, I remember a

544
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: couple episodes you said like you were getting super hyped

545
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: for like what you thought might be this Sarah versus

546
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: Tony showdown, right, Like here we go who backstabs each

547
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: other first?

548
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 5: Right?

549
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: And I think that's the only way Sarah wins this game,

550
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: I think. And now she's starting to run out of

551
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: time here because he's gotten idol. Still, we're getting it

552
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: down to the nitty gritty. There's not a lot of

553
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: votes left. Yeah, there will be the fire making challenge

554
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: at the final four. You know, it's possible Tony's in

555
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: it somehow and loses that. But she's got to get

556
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: rid of Tony, and if she does that, I think

557
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: she wins the game. I think she has to completely

558
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: backstab him, and I think they would be like, hell, yeah,

559
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: you know, Numera, A number of us over here have

560
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: been saying at all game, get rid of Tony, get

561
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: rid of Tony, and we couldn't. We couldn't. He kept

562
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: winning immunity idols, and you did it. You deserve to win.

563
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: But she what peers to us that She's like, I'm

564
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: good sitting with Tony. I think I can convince them

565
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: that I played a better game, or just as important

566
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: is he. I don't think she's gonna win. I don't

567
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: think it'll work.

568
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I I kind of agree with you.

569
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 5: But then again, I'm i've last night, I was just

570
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 5: talking myself into it. But and I'm a little concerned

571
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 5: because Sarah has it in her head, like and she

572
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 5: even said it in her confessional. I think maybe it

573
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 5: was teasing this week or next week, but whenever it was,

574
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 5: she was saying, I want this to be the clash

575
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 5: of the Titans. I want this to be the best

576
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: of the best facing off the you know the I

577
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 5: want the best players to be at the end. And

578
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 5: in her mind that's her, that's Tony and maybe them

579
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 5: who who knows, But I think it's really between the

580
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: Cops r us in her mind. And and so now

581
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 5: I'm trying to talk myself in to yeah, she could

582
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 5: beat Tony because you know, like like I said, I

583
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 5: think she has kept a lid on him, so to speak.

584
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: You know, you remember the last person who said I

585
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: want to beat the best in the end, you know who?

586
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: I remember it being wo Yeah. Yeah, and WU took

587
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: Tony and he got his ass handed to him. And

588
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: if he takes cast, he wins a million dollars. So

589
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: that I hope that's not a bad sign for Sarah

590
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: that she ultimately takes Tony. I hope, I pray she

591
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: gets the chance. Well, I sort of want Tony to

592
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: win at this point, so I guess I want him there.

593
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: But I'd love to see Sarah have the opportunity to

594
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 1: take Tony and say no, no, no, no cops r us.

595
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah that was fun. You got me here, see you

596
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: later because you would beat me and I'm not a dummy.

597
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. I totally thought that we were going to get

598
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: some Tony votes in one of these tribal councils, especially

599
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: considering how quiet it was at the tribal councils. Seeing

600
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: these councils without any whispering was really so. I figured

601
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: that there was some scheming, some big move, some some

602
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: out of the cloak and dagger move that was gonna

603
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: at least have a few votes for Tony because because

604
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: number one, I missed the whispering. Let me let me

605
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: throw that in there. I miss it. It just takes

606
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: away from the intrigue. It's just just the it's just

607
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: I don't want the questions. I want that, I want

608
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: the little chattering. I need captioning. I need close captioning

609
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: for sure. But but but besides that. Yeah, I mean,

610
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: you guys bring up good points. Whether Sarah would be

611
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: I have a case with the jury, but I think

612
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: the opposite is is definitely true that overtly Tony's winning it.

613
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: But yet it all depends on the jury that if

614
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: they decide that Sarah could somehow be controlling Tony. I

615
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 4: think from my perspective, the overt winner is definitely Tony

616
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: and she needed to stab him in the back. I

617
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: was so shocked that we didn't see this happen at all.

618
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: He didn't even have to think about playing idol, that

619
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: he's gotten his bag at all.

620
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

621
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the opposite was true. I mean, my favorite

622
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: scene you said you slipped it in there GD was

623
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: when Michelle was trying to tell Sarah you think you're

624
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: gonna win with him at the end, you're not gonna win, Like,

625
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: and then you brought up that whole Like She's like,

626
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: why do you say that? And she's like, I mean

627
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: it was basically a threat for Michelle, right, She's like, well,

628
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: if you send me over there, I'm just gonna tell

629
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: them that Tony is running everything, So don't send me

630
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: over there. You know, perception is reality and I'll make

631
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: it reality. So I love that scene. But then like,

632
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: task what you're saying? I thought, Okay, this is great, Yeah,

633
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: me getting her head, get in her head, Sarah, make

634
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: your move. Think this through Sarah the next scene, completely

635
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: unfazed by it goes right to Tony and the rest

636
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: of the crew right and it's just like, can you

637
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: believe this? Yeah, trying to get me to, you know,

638
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: vote to make a move on you, Tony. You're the

639
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: one in control for like, oh man, I was like, wow,

640
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I think Sarah's totally fine

641
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: going with Tony to the end. I think she's she

642
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: seems on board, so maybe she has to change the

643
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: heart as it gets a little closer to two million dollars.

644
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I love that scene too, And I'm

645
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 5: rooting hard for Michelle right now, just because she's on

646
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 5: the bottom. She's scrambling, and she's doing such a great

647
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 5: job of trying to manipulate people and she's so damn

648
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: good at it. And yeah, throw Tony's name out there

649
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: puts so that the seeds of doubt in Sarah's mind

650
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: although she's so damn stubborn. I think she's gonna take

651
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 5: Tony to the end.

652
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 6: I just I just do.

653
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: You guys inform me quickly here the fire situation. What

654
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: the heck is is all that about? Trey?

655
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Do you want to take this one? Yeah? They changed it.

656
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: I guess it was for Ben's season, right, The first

657
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: time they had it, they used to just go final two,

658
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: then they went Final three, and then for this season

659
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: and since it's been whoever wins the Final Immunity Challenge

660
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: chooses there are four people left. Whoever wins the Final

661
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: Immunity Challenge goes to the finals, they choose another person

662
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: who comes with them, and then the last two who

663
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: weren't chosen have to build a fire that burns through

664
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: a little rope, and whoever lights their fire and burns

665
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: the rope first then goes onto the finals. And that

666
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: was kind of like Ben was always on the ropes

667
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: in his season, but he kept finding idols, finding idols,

668
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: finding idols. Then we found out about this fire making challenge.

669
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: He builds, it, blazes through, no problem. Suddenly he's in

670
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: the finals and he wins.

671
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a big reason for it, Tasks, is like

672
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: we were getting into this habit and it would make

673
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: sense if you want to try and win a million

674
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: dollars where you'd have like sort of one you would

675
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: get down to, like let's say it's down to final

676
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: four people and there's like two really good people where

677
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I could see a case for one

678
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: of them and to win it all and maybe in

679
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: another But what would happen is one of them would

680
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: win and they would just take the surefire you know,

681
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: goat goat in a bad term, right with them. And

682
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: it was like sort of turning into all these dud

683
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: finales because it was like that person, the second runner up,

684
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: the third run up, they'd get like one or two votes.

685
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: It was just like it just wasn't that exciting. So

686
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: they really did this twist. A lot of people think

687
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: to like make the finale a little more juicy because

688
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: you give the opportunity to another good, great player to

689
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: win a fire challenge and then suddenly you maybe have

690
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: two sort of interesting people in the final finale. You

691
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: agree with that jud.

692
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and I think it works. The question is

693
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: season forty twists abound. Are we doing a fire challenge

694
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 5: or do you have to be standing on your head

695
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 5: when you're doing the fire or does it have to

696
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: be soaking wet wood. I mean, I feel like there

697
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 5: might be a wrench thrown in all this.

698
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you have to start the fire with fire tokens hence, Wow,

699
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: that'd be the real twist. Okay, let's keep it moving here.

700
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if we lost Ley, did you get

701
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: voted out of this podcast?

702
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh?

703
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: There is from Batch of Extinction? You're kidding me?

704
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 6: No, No, We're having awful trouble with the internet here

705
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: this morning.

706
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun, pretty much.

707
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 6: I guess that first episode recapped. So anyway, let's see

708
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 6: where we go from here.

709
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: Well, how many fire tokens does it cost to reset

710
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: your Wi Fi?

711
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 6: I guess certainly about six million according to Well.

712
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: Let's pick it up here, Lee, if you can hear me,

713
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: let's talk about Nick. How dumb is Nick the Lazy Vampire?

714
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: Not a good episode for your boy?

715
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: Nick?

716
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: There Lely's ultimately really getting himself voted out with what

717
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: he decided to do by sending you know, he gets

718
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: the opportunity to buy the advantage from Natalie for eight

719
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: fire tokens, which is actually the ability to secretly put

720
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: a disadvantage on someone. Of the next challenge, he does it,

721
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: and he puts it on Ben, who then loses to Michelle,

722
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: which just means, hey, Nick, you're up next? Like was it? Like,

723
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, he sort of did himself in here.

724
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: Well, I guess so in the end, But I think

725
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 6: he had the right intention. He wanted to make it

726
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 6: so that Ben was at a disadvantage, and he was,

727
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 6: although Ben nearly pulled out the victory himself, but of

728
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 6: course it left him exposed in the end, and because

729
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: because he couldn't really say himself even though he'd won

730
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 6: immunity earlier in the episode, which was just an incredible

731
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 6: performance by him. So, I mean, he had Michelle on

732
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 6: his side, but that was it. So you knew that

733
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: that point it was going to be tough for him

734
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 6: to survive.

735
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I mean, yeah, hindsight twenty twenty. But

736
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: he should have actually, at this point in the game,

737
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: had a better read of what the hell was going

738
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: on and instead give this disadvantage really to Michelle because

739
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: it's him or her going home, right, Yeah, I mean,

740
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: he's got to beat He's got to beat her unless

741
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: he's got some other move. But you know, she was

742
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: pissed off with him. Too, I sort of I didn't

743
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: get to that point. Like Michelle was like, I mean,

744
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: she says, I am genuinely curious what you think are

745
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: path to the end is here? Because this is after

746
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Nick Voto Jeremy, and she's like, what are you doing?

747
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: What are you And he couldn't explain it. He couldn't.

748
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 6: I don't think he had as a plan though. I

749
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 6: think I think that was it. He's just going He's young,

750
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 6: sort of person by person and that was kind of

751
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 6: how he was able to get to this point the

752
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: first place. You know, he had no real solid allegiance,

753
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 6: I guess, and uh, and he was just sort of

754
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 6: cruising along, flowing by the seat of his pants. And

755
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 6: then she she was like, you know that this means

756
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 6: we're both in trouble. Uh And ultimately it cost him,

757
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 6: But I just I just thought it was a pretty

758
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 6: funny episode by him and Michelle, you know the fact

759
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 6: that they both won the challenges there and ended up

760
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 6: one of them going home. I mean, he I was

761
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 6: shocked that he won that first one, the sort of

762
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 6: the you know, the ball and down the alleyway there

763
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 6: and then the puzzle and then and then for her

764
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 6: to when the Dominoes one.

765
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: Was just incredible.

766
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 6: So it was like really good episode or a really

767
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 6: good night for both of them at some point. But

768
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 6: in the end, you know, he goes home.

769
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: Well, like Ben said of Nick, he's good at puzzling,

770
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: but he's not playing Survivor in this one. Yeah, it's

771
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 4: like watching watching him puzzle. I did have a glimpse

772
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: of a flash of watching Leolis do a puzzle. Would

773
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: this be exciting watching the house put all together a

774
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: thousand piece? What are those puzzles called lepecialist? Yeah, yeah piece.

775
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now that wouldn't be That wouldn't be exciting to

776
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 6: watch that because that that's kind of boring. But the

777
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 6: actual sliding puzzles like that, that would be that would

778
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 6: be awesome to do. I would love to do that.

779
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: I think I would have won that one. They tell

780
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: you if you ever go on Survivor to practice slide

781
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: puzzles because there's genuinely at least one a season. Yeah,

782
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: I've heard Sandra talk about that before.

783
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Or if you're not going to practice them, at least

784
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: go very slow so it makes it seem like you've practiced.

785
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Because when Tony was doing it previously, it was like,

786
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: but last night he was still not getting anything done,

787
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: but he was going slower. So Prost is like, nice, man,

788
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: you're not freaking out this time.

789
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. We also we knew it was You knew Nick

790
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: was going home as soon as Michelle did win, and

791
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: Nick gives us, you know, the kiss of death testimonial.

792
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: My plan worked today. I feel like I'm a genius.

793
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: Ben lost. Unbelievable. Everything worked out perfectly. I feel like

794
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm in maybe the best position I've been in this

795
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: entire game. It was a wrap for Nick as soon

796
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: as those words left his both.

797
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: It's also when he's sitting there and saying, uh, it

798
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: might have been the previous tribal council, but he literally

799
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 5: says he's a talking pond and he said he refers,

800
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: you know, we're not chess pieces, we're human beings over here,

801
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 5: and then he immediately gets voted out as a pawn.

802
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: It's just so good. That was getting back to when

803
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: when Michelle is telling him just how stupid he is

804
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 5: after that, after voting. Jeremy is one of my favorite

805
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 5: That's my favorite thing on Survivor is when the editors

806
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 5: basically want want to display or want me to think

807
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 5: that a player is stupid. So Michelle is just basically

808
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 5: telling Nick exactly why he screwed up, exactly what his

809
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 5: position is in the game, which is at the bottom

810
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: right after her. And then it's confirmed by cutting away

811
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: to private conversations of their competitors, confirming exactly what she

812
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 5: is saying. And then you know, throw in some dopey

813
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 5: looks from Nick, and it's just it's just great. It

814
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 5: just gets me yelling at my TV and just cheering

815
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 5: for Michelle and tell that dummy how badly up. It's

816
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: just great. I loved it. I loved it. I love

817
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 5: being manipulated by the survivor gods. It's so good.

818
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question to be, what else is Nick

819
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: supposed to do? Is he gonna give his disadvantage to Michelle.

820
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: Michelle couldn't even finish the first stage of the previous

821
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: immunity challenge. He's probably thinking there's no way she's gonna

822
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: win this one.

823
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: True true? Yeah, I guess you don't. You don't know

824
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: the challenge is a good point. You don't know what

825
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: it is going to be.

826
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: That's fair, that's a fair point. But he should have

827
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 4: just voted for Ben in the first episode exactly.

828
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: That's exactly right. That would have been at least one

829
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: thing that he would have had on his resume. But

830
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: I still don't think he would have had a chance

831
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 5: of winning, but at least it would have been something,

832
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 5: and it would have kept him in the game because

833
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 5: he would have had Jeremy and Michelle.

834
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: It was definitely one of the most surprising things though,

835
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: as as Trey said that Michelle couldn't get shoot the

836
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: ball up the first one and was in tears at

837
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 4: the end of that one because she just she couldn't.

838
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: She couldn't do it, period. But Nick has to know

839
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 4: his friend. Michelle said, I'm good when my back is

840
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: against the wall. She's a procrastinator. You gotta know her

841
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 4: kind she and she came up. I was amazing. She

842
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: went from last to first. She went from a fifteen

843
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: and what is it, a sixty seven season to a

844
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 4: fifty and thirty two season. Ooh, great stuff.

845
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: Michelle, yeah, she well, yeah, she went from That was funny.

846
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: That was an interesting little decision by the editors. And

847
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what it says about Michelle's chances to

848
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: maybe win this whole damn game. Maybe I'm reaching here

849
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: with the edit. But she goes from crying because she

850
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: couldn't even get the ball, like catch the ball, run

851
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: through the little obstacle course and catch it. Everybody's consoling her.

852
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh, it's okay, don't worry, don't be so

853
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: hard on yourself. You know what, are you a piece

854
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: of space age titanium. But then the opposite, she wins

855
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: the next challenge. Nobody claps and Jeff Propes even has

856
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: to say, like, huh, why you guys aren't claping? You

857
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: usually clap for these.

858
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: She pointed it out right.

859
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, was it hurt?

860
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 5: Yes. She walks over and she says, no claps.

861
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, I don't know. That's

862
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: who interesting interesting within the same episode, I have a

863
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: few just other things with Nick here. I want to

864
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: give him some credit, very little bit, but he was

865
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: at least smart to point out to Tony that, hey, man,

866
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: you you really shouldn't bring Ben close to the fire

867
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: making final four. Okay he said that. Now we just

868
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: got done talking about how he should have just freaking

869
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: voted Ben out earlier, so like, take your own damn advice, buddy.

870
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: But okay, I love that he was in this season

871
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: just for comedy relief alone. I think he was one

872
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: the funnier characters, just because of maybe his cluelessness and

873
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: the whole time watching him and especially last night, it

874
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: really hit me. Nick totally seemed like a guy and

875
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's because he was one of the most recent.

876
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: Was he the most recent winner to be out there?

877
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: I think it was second most? Yeah, well who.

878
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: Next to the I've the one still alive, but he's

879
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: definitely the most recent.

880
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: Yeah in the game.

881
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. He just seemed happy to be there, like

882
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: he just he didn't feel like he was really playing

883
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: to win Survivor. It was more just like I can't

884
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: believe I'm here with these legends, Like I'm I'm at

885
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: the cool kids table. Man, this is awesome. I'm like,

886
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try and not say too much so

887
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: the cool kids don't kick me out of the table,

888
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: right because he's like he felt really and he should be,

889
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: I guess, like proud to make it to day thirty four,

890
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: but like, come on, man, you're a previous winner, Like

891
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: day thirty four means it's the exact same as going

892
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: out in day fifteen. To me, especially if you're like

893
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: a champion already. Like he just had that vibe the

894
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: way he carried himself of just like I'm just loving this. Yeah,

895
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm not really going for the win here. I'm just

896
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: this is cool to me. That's what I picked up.

897
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: And it may not have worked his disadvantage plan, but

898
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: the literal playing of the disadvantage, he actually nailed it.

899
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: Ben would have won that challenge if he didn't have

900
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: a disadvantage. He was one block away despite having thirty

901
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: percent more. The problem is that everybody is focusing on

902
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: trying to vote out Ben because I don't think they

903
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: realized that Tony and Sarah just want him around to

904
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: take him to the finals. They don't care if he

905
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: wins the fire Making Challenge. They're going to use him

906
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: against the Returney. They're going to use him against Denise,

907
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: to beat whoever that is in the fire Making Challenge,

908
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: and then say say, this guy had no clue what.

909
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: Was going on.

910
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: We dragged him here.

911
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: The entire time. They were just so focused on getting

912
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: rid of Ben because he seems like a threat that

913
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: it kind of clouded a lot of people's judgment.

914
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I think that is a spot on observation that it

915
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: feels like Tony and Sarah we're gonna get to a

916
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: final four. Ben is going to be there. There's going

917
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: to be someone else, be it, Natalie, be At, Tyson,

918
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: be it, one of these people still remaining, like a

919
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: Denise Ra Michelle, and that Tony specifically is gonna be

920
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: able to go in. Sarah like, hey, Ben, you're the

921
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: best at making fire Man. You gotta take.

922
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: Down you know X.

923
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 8: You got to take out Tyson, you got to take

924
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 8: out so and so. So Okay, I'll take so and

925
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 8: I'll take Sarah to the end and you get there. Man,

926
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 8: you're the best, Like you're so right, and like they're

927
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 8: not afraid. The number one thing they've done in this game,

928
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 8: Tony and Sarah have made Ben seem like this like

929
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 8: unbelievable giant of the game, right, Like oh, this guy's

930
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 8: incredible somehow, or like like how are they they've all

931
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 8: these people are like they're focused on the wrong.

932
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Guy of the three. It's like it should be Sarah

933
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: and then Tony and then Ben in that some sort

934
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: of order, Tony then Sarah and Ben Like no, they

935
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: have it backwards. There's somehow have done a great job

936
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: of convincing everyone else. It feels like to keep that

937
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: sort of Ben shield up.

938
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: I mean to a point though, because they were targeting Ben,

939
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 5: and if you get rid of Ben, Sarah said it,

940
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 5: everybody will flip against them, right, because if Jeremy was

941
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 5: still in the game, if they had got rid of

942
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 5: Ben when they had the chance, Denise would have flipped

943
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 5: over to Uh, to Michelle and Nick because they already

944
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 5: discussed having the final three alliance in the previous episode, right,

945
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: like Ben, you have to keep Ben around because yes,

946
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 5: he's he's a dufist and they can beat him, but

947
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: and he's great at fire. But also he's a number.

948
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: He is there their absolute guaranteed number, which which and

949
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 5: that's the only way t number?

950
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: Is he a guaranteed number? And all you asked that

951
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: because we've heard Ben before tell us the audience like

952
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: it's crossed his mind, right, Like should I sort of

953
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: make a move on Tony, right, I'm with you. He

954
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: feels like a loyal soldier.

955
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's is anyone a guaranteed number other than between

956
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 5: Tony and Sarah? Who knows? But but going after Ben

957
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: is the only way you're going to crack the cops

958
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: or s alliance is my point, right, Like that's the

959
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 5: only way to get to them, it seems, and and

960
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: which is such a blown opportunity again by Nick, if

961
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: they had got if they had kept Jeremy and gone

962
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 5: and just flipped and gone after Ben, It's just it

963
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 5: could have would have turned the game on that on

964
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: its head.

965
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: We uh leave if you're if you're there, what you

966
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: think of Tony's spy nest actually paying off here?

967
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 5: He's not here?

968
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: Okay, great, let's get to the edge, because we did

969
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: see a decent little segment of everybody on the edge

970
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: of extinction. We you know, we don't really need to

971
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: get into detail about Natalie finding the whole thing and

972
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: getting eight tokens out of it, like she knows the

973
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: damn island like the back of her hand. I love

974
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: that line from Tyson sort of alluding to like tough

975
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: to tell where the island you know, uh ends, And

976
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: Natalie begins like they're just become one, which is pretty

977
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: pretty funny from what we saw in this episode. It

978
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: only it feels like only two people have a realistic

979
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: shot at winning the Battleback challenge in the finale, right,

980
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: it's Natalie or Tyson. Can you sell me on the

981
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: case for anyone else winning this thing? Because that's what

982
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: the editors are sure driving home to me.

983
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I agree one hundred percent, although I will

984
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 5: throw in a rob just because I couldn't want to

985
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: count him out. He's got an immunity idol. They took

986
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 5: the time to point that out. But yeah, I mean,

987
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 5: it's got to be. My money's on Tyson if nothing else,

988
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: because of what Wendell said back when we interviewed him.

989
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 5: It's between the two of them, and Natalie has three advantages.

990
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: I can't imagine that it wouldn't be her unless something goes

991
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: horribly wrong. I mean, who knows what the challenge is

992
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 5: going to be. But yeah, it's got to be one

993
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 5: of the two of them.

994
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Natalie had so many fire tokens by the end

995
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: of last night. She was buying idols for other people,

996
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: challeing down on peanut butter like the girl is just

997
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: living her life out there. She's surely, despite being the

998
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: first one there, most ready to come back. Obviously, she

999
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: hasn't lost any stamina or athletic ability despite living out

1000
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 2: on an island with you know, a scoop of rice

1001
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: on a nice looking leaf for thirty something days. But

1002
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, she's got to be the favorite just because

1003
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 2: she's got so many advantages, I would think.

1004
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. The leaf looked like the best part

1005
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 4: of the meal. There tree. It looked a little more

1006
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 4: scrumptious than that scoop of rice.

1007
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: It's all about the presentation there, exactly, old shaved coconut rice.

1008
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeremy was looking at that rice and said, oh God,

1009
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 4: that's all you guys get out here a little scoop.

1010
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: But I think you mentioned JD that Tyson because of

1011
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 4: what Wendell said right when he was with us at

1012
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 4: our show. Wendell's just a He's a player. He knows

1013
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: what to say. He is so good at it. Yesterday,

1014
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: leading into the show, he went on Instagram and said,

1015
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: big episode tonight. I think it's time for your boy

1016
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: to pull out the war paint again. Let's go. The

1017
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 4: guy is a survivor player at home art and I was.

1018
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: I even follow Wendell and I got a little back

1019
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 4: and forth between him and Parvity watching the last night's episode. Yeah, Wendell.

1020
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 4: Wendall said in the episode last night that he could

1021
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 4: beat Natalie. I'm the only person faster than Natalie, and

1022
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: Parvety took to Instagram to get her husband's comment, which

1023
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: was which was ha ha ha ha, There's no way

1024
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: Wendell is faster than Natalie. And so then Wendell reposts

1025
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 4: that and says, ha ha ha, this is hilarious as

1026
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 4: what Parvety said is. But I think Wendall's just playing us.

1027
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: Point is Wendall's playing us? I do agree. Natalie, let's

1028
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 4: see her back. I can't believe she's been out there

1029
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: for a month. She's really embracing it, really loving it.

1030
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: So I know we've we've touched on this a little

1031
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: bit in the past, but does everybody feel be it

1032
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Natalie Tyson, rob someone else whoever comes back from edge

1033
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: can win the game outright or will in a Winners

1034
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: at War, Survivor forty and Epics season, will there be

1035
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: hesitation to give it a win to somebody who actually

1036
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: wasn't in in in the game for the entire time.

1037
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: That's a great question because there was such an uproar

1038
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: when Chris Underwood won when he was a rettorney, and

1039
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: if he hadn't won, I think Rick Devins would have won,

1040
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: who was also a retorney from his Edge of Extinction.

1041
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: But that's such a good question. You would think that

1042
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: the players who are still in the game when the

1043
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: returney comes back, they're gonna want to get them out

1044
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: right away, just because if it's Natalie, she has had

1045
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: a chance to build a relationship with every single person

1046
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: who has been on Edge of Extinction. That is definitely valuable, right,

1047
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: Like she gets to talk to him and get the

1048
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: information from him and win her over or win them

1049
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: over while they're all just sitting out there on the island.

1050
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: They've seen how she has you know, performed in all

1051
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: these different challenges, how she is not slowing down at

1052
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: all despite sticking it out for the longest. I mean,

1053
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: you're almost making your pitch the to the jury the

1054
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: entire time you're out there, and you know that's different

1055
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: than getting two hours at the end of the season.

1056
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. What would be fascinating is if it is a

1057
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: Natalie or a Tyson, because they both have great sort

1058
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: of Edge of Extinction stories to them, and that's important.

1059
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: Natalie being the first and balling it out and all

1060
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: these challenges and then Tyson coming back twice and you know,

1061
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you get sneaky here at the end.

1062
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: If he gets back, it'd be crazy to see one

1063
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: of those two with cops r Us. Then it's fascinating too,

1064
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because that's I mean, you threw out the

1065
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: Chris Underwood comparison, and I think I heard Rob say

1066
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: this this morning. That's fair. You're right there was backlash

1067
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: to it, but it was so it's so different who

1068
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Chris Underwood was sitting next to right in the finale.

1069
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it was, oh my god, I can't remember

1070
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: the game remember either, but you know it were Gavin

1071
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: was one of them, and her name was Julie I think, yeah,

1072
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: And exactly it was like not you know, power players

1073
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: by any means. They had done some things, but not

1074
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: a lot, so that like in that instance, it was like, well, Chris,

1075
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't do all out when they were there,

1076
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: and he's made these sort of shrewd moves at the

1077
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: end and like deciding to go in the fire making

1078
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: challenge and all that. So I guess my point is,

1079
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: if not only are Tyson is there with I don't know,

1080
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: even it's tough to I guess it's tough to pick

1081
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: of the remaining players who that would be that they

1082
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: would have a really good case to be made over

1083
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: maybe Ben. Maybe, But I was gonna say, like a

1084
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 1: Denise even and they're like, well, you took down the queen.

1085
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: You want all these immunities. You know, you're obviously very likable.

1086
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's Gavin's and Julie's out there,

1087
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: if those are even their names, for a returney to

1088
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: maybe get the win. That's why that was a long

1089
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: winded ramp, But that's what I was trying to get

1090
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: out there.

1091
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 5: It's worth pointing out as well that, as we've mentioned,

1092
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 5: Tony has been on the right side of all the votes.

1093
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 5: That means that Tony put everybody on to extinction the

1094
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 5: edge of extinction there. He put them there. So they're

1095
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 5: all pissed off at Tony and Sarah for doing that.

1096
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 5: So if Natalie swoops in, I think or Tyson, I

1097
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 5: think that they a have a great chance of getting

1098
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 5: past Ben in the fire making challenge, because Natalie was

1099
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 5: on extinction doing making fire for herself, you know, for

1100
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 5: thirty days, so she can make fire and she's she's

1101
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 5: a beast of challenges. I mean, she could even win

1102
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 5: an immunity. Tyson as well, oh yeah, I think that

1103
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 5: it between cops or US and Natalie or Tyson. I'm

1104
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 5: voting for Natalie or Tyson. Wow, really over Tony over Tony? Yeah,

1105
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 5: I because you've seen firsthand what a beast she's been

1106
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 5: and Tyson as well. I mean, they've experienced the hardship

1107
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 5: of Edge and thirty days on Edge is no joke,

1108
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 5: and they.

1109
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: We're not trying to award two million dollars to someone

1110
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: really good at camping.

1111
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 5: It's part of the game. It's hard of the game,

1112
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 5: and not just camping that don't forget the log challenge

1113
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 5: and the coconut challenge and finding this this advantage and

1114
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 5: and extorting money from Tony. I mean, I don't know,

1115
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 5: it's it's there's a resume may there, and it's the

1116
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 5: intimate experience of survivor is probably only only surpassed by

1117
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 5: the intimate experience of going through the hell of Edge

1118
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 5: of Extinction.

1119
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: Look, I agree, I'd mean, if they're there, Natalie or Tyson,

1120
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: they're likable. They have these relationships both prior to the

1121
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: game and then now on Edge for long periods of

1122
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: time with all these people. And another thing to add

1123
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: is and this is just you know human nature of

1124
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: like people like to vote almost for themselves as an extension. Hey,

1125
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: I was on edge, you were there with me. Me

1126
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: giving you my vote is in a weird way awarding myself, right,

1127
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?

1128
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 5: For sure?

1129
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: Is that too? So I could, I could see it happening.

1130
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: I would be livid as a fan if Tony is

1131
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: there and one of those two win. And I love

1132
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: those two. I love Natalie, I love Tyson. But Tony's

1133
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: been in the damn game and dominating it and actually

1134
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, checking himself many times previous the old Tony

1135
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: and at least trying to keep himself right in like

1136
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: he he grew as a player. He's the king. I mean,

1137
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: I want him to be the king. We got Queen Sandra.

1138
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: I want King Tony. And I'll be pissed if they

1139
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: beat him, I really will, unless they get him out,

1140
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: of course.

1141
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: Especially if it's Tyson. Imagine he comes back. Tony just

1142
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: has to say I voted you out twice already.

1143
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: What's going on here?

1144
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 5: Can't kill this guy?

1145
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope we get to see it unfold. I'd

1146
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: love to see them try and make their case and

1147
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: see what the jury does, and I think that jury

1148
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: would be lit right because I think on one hand,

1149
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: you'd have people saying what you just said, JD. No, Like,

1150
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: this wasn't easy, this wasn't camping ski. It's shut the

1151
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: hell up. You know, this was tough, and she could

1152
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: have quit on night one whatever blah blah blah. And

1153
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: then on the flip side, I think you're gonna have

1154
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: the gamers going, guys, we're talking about Tony here. He's like,

1155
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: how did he get no votes? You know, like that's

1156
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: really playing the game. So there could be this awesome,

1157
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: like open dialogue going on. I'd be wicked me. That's

1158
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: why Probe saying it's gonna be a great finale.

1159
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 2: My favorite Edge of Extinction moment though, was Amber talking

1160
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: about how much she's gonna miss being on the island

1161
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: because I don't have to do anything out here. It's

1162
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: so much more peaceful than being home with four kids.

1163
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: I haven't had this in a long time. She's like

1164
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 2: in tears thinking about, oh man, this is my last

1165
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: few moments.

1166
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: A quiet Yeah. That was that was a sweet scene

1167
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: actually that I was talking with Nora about it. JD, Like,

1168
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: I hear you, Rob's got the Idol. They told us,

1169
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: I just don't see him winning this thing and coming back.

1170
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they would have set it up a

1171
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: little bit more. And if anything, this whole last couple

1172
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: we've got like these sort of like thank you scenes

1173
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: to Boston Robin Amber in a way to me, like

1174
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: from the editors, like you've mean so much to this show.

1175
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: You guys played so many times. That's what it felt

1176
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: like to me that that scene, And it was sweet

1177
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: and it was cool to hear her talk about it,

1178
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: but it's like, I just don't think they're coming back.

1179
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: I do have a question task, would you, knowing it's

1180
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: your final night on Edge or final morning, however you

1181
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: want to look at it, would you gotten up early

1182
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: and climb the small mountain to catch the final sunrise?

1183
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: Because I noticed a lot of them did not.

1184
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: I know this question was definitely aimed for Lee, but

1185
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: I'll take it. I'll take it. Yeah, Yeah, I'd go

1186
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 4: watch that sunrise.

1187
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I mean I guess you could argue, though,

1188
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: hey man, you got a battle back challenge coming up later.

1189
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: Later, right, Well, probably my argument for getting up at

1190
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: whatever it is, six six thirty is I'm not sleeping anyways,

1191
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: on those pieces, it would I'd probably be awake, ready

1192
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 4: to jump up and beat Natalie at something. At the

1193
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: very least she said up to beater up to that perch.

1194
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: There she she's she's a beast. Get her back in

1195
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: this game, JD. I can't. I can't believe you're making

1196
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: the case for somebody who's been outside the game for

1197
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: the entire time. I've come around on a few things

1198
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: on Survivor. I like the whispering Now. I was thinking

1199
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: about giving my vote to somebody from Edge of Extinction,

1200
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: but I just can't do it. Maybe there should be

1201
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: two winners, you know, Maybe there should be a there's

1202
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: somebody from Edge of Extinction wins a secondary prize like

1203
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 4: the longest tenures, the person who comes back something.

1204
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: Now peanut butter for life, you last the longest on Edge. Yeah,

1205
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: we only had Rob Amber, Yule, and Wendell go up

1206
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: to catch the sunrise, the only four people out there

1207
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 1: that wanted to see it. At least that's what we saw.

1208
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 5: Since you mentioned the goodbyes and and sort of the

1209
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 5: end of Robin Amber's storyline, I could argue that we

1210
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 5: saw Natalie's victory last night as well. She's had the

1211
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 5: most fied tokens. There was that moment where where Tyson

1212
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 5: is in tears at her generosity buying him an idol

1213
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: and sharing the peanut butter with him and just sort

1214
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 5: of her basking in that moment of I've won the

1215
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 5: edge of extinction, and so I could argue that that

1216
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 5: was the end of her story as well, which is

1217
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 5: again why I think Tyson is getting back into the game.

1218
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's your vote. I'm also one hundred percent

1219
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: on board with that GD. I think there was a

1220
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: little too much of being told she's got the most

1221
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: advantages and she's got all this firepower, and these scenes

1222
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: of here checking through her bag and eating all the

1223
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: peanut butter. It's like, I don't know, you're almost trying

1224
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: to tell me, like, oh, it's a lot Natalie's coming

1225
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: back in the game. But that seems way too easy,

1226
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, Like I think they're pulling one over on us.

1227
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm my votes for Tyson. I think he's coming back.

1228
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 5: I'll say this, she's coming back into the game. It's

1229
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 5: just not this particular season's she's gonna play again.

1230
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she's great. I mean, if she

1231
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: does come back if she wins, comes back and somehow

1232
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: pulls out the victory sole survivor. I think she would

1233
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: have played seven days on the island seven. I mean

1234
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 1: what Chris Underwood was like ten. We were like what, yeah,

1235
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: how many weeks is seven days? How days? Well that's great,

1236
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah. Tony's all confused. He's like, has she

1237
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: been here a weekly? Been here for five days? I

1238
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: don't know, Like what was she doing for those two days?

1239
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: Any other random you know. Observations from this episode.

1240
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: Great line from Michelle at tribal console when she's talking

1241
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: about winning her immunity necklace. She says, Jeff, I need

1242
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: this like a fish needs water, like you need a

1243
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: blue button down in khakis. Not a big enough pop,

1244
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: I thought at a tribal console. That should have brought

1245
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: the house down.

1246
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very funny.

1247
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: I agree.

1248
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: Should the next pick and payoff be somebody getting a

1249
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: tattoo that says endure and let go woosa?

1250
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 5: So was Denise laying it on a little thick or

1251
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 5: what was the ploy there with buying the rice and

1252
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 5: saying I'm done, I'm going to extinction. I mean, obviously

1253
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 5: it was a ploy, but I don't know it seemed

1254
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 5: like there was a little bit of truth to it.

1255
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 5: What was your What did you think about that?

1256
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: I think both. I think like you said, I think

1257
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: it was I'm sort of done with this and I'm

1258
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: not even sure I could win this game maybe at

1259
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: this point, so if you send me, eh, all right,

1260
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: let's just eat, but also a little bit of the

1261
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: flip side of it, like oh no, you know, it's fine,

1262
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: go ahead and send me. It's like you do that

1263
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: in Survivor. Sometimes that works to your advantage, right, like

1264
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: the uh, just go ahead and get rid of me

1265
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: just and then people are like that happens a Big

1266
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: Brother all the time, where people use that sort of

1267
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: strategy like it's okay, just get just vote me out.

1268
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: And then ione's like wait, no, no, no, that's too

1269
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: easy because people don't want to do the easy thing

1270
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: too either, so they make it more difficult, like, well,

1271
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: we can get her next time. Don't worry about her,

1272
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: she's already mentally checked out. So I guess a little

1273
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: bit of both, is my answer, is what I picked

1274
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: up on it.

1275
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean too.

1276
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: I'm susceptible to the producers pushing a storyline, and I

1277
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 4: thought the Denise storyline from the second episode, the whole

1278
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 4: arc of her coming back from losing the challenge and saying, yeah,

1279
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 4: I need Rice, I need I need to to do

1280
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 4: this for everybody, be basically playing the nice survivor player,

1281
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 4: and then and then the whole discussion of her trying

1282
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 4: to backstab Tony and maybe that could work out as

1283
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 4: Tony was up in the spy's nest worker watching Denise

1284
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 4: kind of backstab him, and then the conversations about Denise

1285
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: like maybe she can get to the final round and

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Speaker 4: get votes because she is the quote unquote nice person.

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Speaker 4: I like that arc. You know, I didn't think there was.

1288
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Speaker 4: When it comes down to the tribal council, everybody voted

1289
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Speaker 4: along party lines there for two done. There wasn't really

1290
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Speaker 4: much to discuss. That's why there was no whispering. But

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Speaker 4: I think the producers did a good job of playing

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Speaker 4: out that Dennis storyline.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and since you mentioned it, Sarah did actually spell

1294
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Speaker 5: it out at one point in a confessional. Basically, she's

1295
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Speaker 5: the Queen Slayer, She's a challenge beast. She's won two immunities,

1296
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Speaker 5: and she's come close a couple of other times, and

1297
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Speaker 5: she has a lot of friends in the game, A

1298
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 5: lot of people have willed their tokens to her as

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Speaker 5: they're being voted off, so.

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Speaker 1: She's played idols.

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Speaker 5: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny though, the more I think about

1303
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: Denise being in the Final three and making her case

1304
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: and you said it the first thing Sarah did too,

1305
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Speaker 1: that she's the Queenslayer, right, that that is her, that's

1306
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: her ultimate survivor move in her survivor career. And I

1307
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: don't know if it'll ever be taught. Sandra won't be

1308
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: sitting there.

1309
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that weird.

1310
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if that makes it better or

1311
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: worse for Denise's like sort of building of the resume

1312
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: and in that moment like it's already on the resume,

1313
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: but like I guess to me, it would be it

1314
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: would help her in that instance in the Final three,

1315
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, of pleading to the jury, like if Sandra

1316
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: is right there and Sandra's doing classic Sandra like yeah,

1317
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: she got me, you know, like she because we've heard

1318
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: Sandra say that. So, but she won't be there, so

1319
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: could that hurt her in a weird way if she's

1320
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 1: there and gets a chance.

1321
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's it and I'm now thinking of

1322
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 5: it just off the top of my head. Here, if

1323
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 5: you're sitting next to cops or US and you're Denise,

1324
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 5: is it possible that cops are US split votes where

1325
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 5: people are at summer like, yeah, Sarah was in control, no,

1326
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 5: Tony was in control, and then but the majority end

1327
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 5: up going to Denise. I think that's.

1328
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: Possible because how many people will be voting will be

1329
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: like just so millionth yeah, sixteen people right, because Sandra's

1330
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: gone three left, yeah, sixteen wow, so yeah, like six right, five,

1331
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: five and six, Oh my god, that'd be amazing. Yeah,

1332
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely if we'll be honest, but.

1333
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 4: The people in the final have the ability to create

1334
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 4: graphs and charts to well, like you said, I've totally

1335
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 4: forgot about Sandra. Really, maybe can we throw, you know,

1336
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Speaker 4: throw up the Queen's layers stats and cross it out

1337
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 4: destroyed by you want?

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Speaker 1: You want? Like they should be allowed to do a

1339
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Speaker 1: PowerPoint presentation at instead of just talking.

1340
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Speaker 4: I want an easel up there. I'm probably gonna get

1341
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Speaker 4: Nick to help me out, being the lawyer that he is.

1342
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: They've they did a great job drawing the calendar there

1343
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 4: with the weeks on it. They paint every week. I'm

1344
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: sure that somebody great out there could put together a

1345
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Speaker 4: nice little little display.

1346
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Speaker 1: Well, we've gone sort of through just before we get

1347
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Speaker 1: to uh, we'll take a break and then do some

1348
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: quick tree mail. But we've talked about how why Tony

1349
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: could win the game, why even Sarah really could the

1350
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: case she would make. I think Michelle is is is

1351
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: a is A is a threat because of how likable

1352
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: she is and playing that underdog role perfectly. Denise, we

1353
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: just went over what is Ben's case? Trey? Does Ben

1354
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: have any case if he's sitting there to make And

1355
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: I know it depends who he's with, but like, what

1356
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: would it, what would it be? Where would he start?

1357
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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think he has a chance. And I

1358
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: actually don't really think Michelle either. She's very likable, she

1359
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: obviously knows what's going on in the game, but nobody

1360
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: wants to play with her. She's been an underdog just

1361
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: because nobody wants to vote with her. I don't necessarily think.

1362
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: She's playing it great. I don't know.

1363
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: To me, the only way Ben wins is if he

1364
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: somehow takes out Sarah and TONI or at the very

1365
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: least is the one who splits them up. I actually

1366
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 2: think Denise has a pretty great chance if she plays

1367
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: her cards right, you know, if she partners up with

1368
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: the Returney and Ben and Michelle, then they try and

1369
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: get Sarah or Tony. She takes Michelle to the finals.

1370
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: Let's Ben beat Sarah or Tony in the fire making,

1371
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: then you got Denise, Ben and Michelle in the finals.

1372
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: That's a pretty fair fight.

1373
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1374
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would love to see Denise put her well,

1375
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: she's a therapist, right like I would really love to

1376
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: see put her skills to work of trying to tell

1377
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: Ben man, you can't go with Tony, you can't go

1378
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: with Sarah, You're gonna lose. You gotta go with me

1379
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: and Michelle. If the opportunity presents itself, I'd love to

1380
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: see her really try and get through to him.

1381
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1382
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 2: I was surprised she roped Sarah into that conversation. No,

1383
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: it's because she's trying to sew discord between the two

1384
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: of them, but really you need to get both of

1385
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: them out.

1386
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean maybe part of.

1387
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: It is that she wants to get the ball rolling

1388
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: starting it with Tony, But I mean Ben is her

1389
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: number one, Right, Ben is Denise's number one? It should

1390
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: be those two and everybody else trying to get Sarah

1391
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: and Toni out.

1392
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ben and Denise's best chances to win the

1393
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: game or to be there with each other and then

1394
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: either sit with Michelle or whoever returns and hope that

1395
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, whoever returns doesn't have a great story to make,

1396
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: a case to make because they were on edge and

1397
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, we're not giving it to somebody

1398
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: that was on edge for twenty days, and maybe then

1399
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Speaker 1: that doesn't even work. Just to go over this very

1400
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: quickly too, Tony still has an idol. Okay, Ben still

1401
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Speaker 1: has an idol, And you said it there and I

1402
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: thought it really was slipped into the episodes despite being

1403
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: two hours long. Rob has one, and then Natalie has

1404
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: one and Tyson.

1405
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 4: Has one, right yep.

1406
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: So if they all, if those three come back, they've

1407
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: got one, which would be huge. I mean, you almost

1408
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Speaker 1: have to have what it feels like if you come back. Okay,

1409
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: all right, so five idols remain. Five people remain in

1410
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Speaker 1: the game, but there will be six. Oh my god,

1411
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: try and keep.

1412
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Speaker 5: Up with this could be a series situation where literally

1413
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1414
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1415
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess you could. There will only be three

1416
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: idols technically in the game, because it's not like the

1417
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Speaker 5: One, right, So, but you're you're right?

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Speaker 2: Here.

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: It's been a week and I still can't believe three

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: people gave away immunity for peanut butter and cookies. Now,

1501
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: I never give away immunity for that, but if Probes

1502
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,879
Speaker 1: brought out a taco bar or fajitas. I might be doomed.

1503
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: So I was wondering which food item would be most

1504
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,480
Speaker 1: tempting to all of you, whether you gave up immunity

1505
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: or not. I hope it would take more than bananas

1506
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: to get Lee to step down, but it may depend

1507
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: on how many they are. They'd have to be organic bananas,

1508
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: by the way, Doug. Anyway, that's thanks, he says, that's

1509
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: from Doug's fun question. Unfortunately we don't have Lee here

1510
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: to answer the banana specific part of that question, but tasks,

1511
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: is there a food item that would really tempt you? Like,

1512
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: what would it be where you would step down and

1513
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: give up the chance of immunity.

1514
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 4: Well, I'd say in the first ten episodes it was

1515
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 4: peanut butter, but this last episode look pretty gross.

1516
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, warm, warm peanut butter too.

1517
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 4: I think it has been in the heat a little

1518
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 4: bit too long. It's getting a little thick. I wouldn't

1519
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 4: want to wash it down with seawater, and you'd have

1520
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 4: to because it is so thick. Uh, guys, I'm gonna

1521
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 4: have to go simple here, very very so, gonna go

1522
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 4: on a nice apple.

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: Bananas.

1524
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 4: It is. It is crazier than bananas, but I think

1525
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 4: I'd be craving just a good old crunchy apple.

1526
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: That little sweetness that uh yeah.

1527
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 4: After thirty days, my god, I just want to frigg

1528
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 4: an apple. I'd be I'd be like Tony climbing up

1529
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 4: those trees. It's not they wouldn't be apple trees, but

1530
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 4: I'd be desperate thinking that an apple would be up there.

1531
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 4: I think I'd be going bonkers thinking every tree was

1532
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 4: an apple tree.

1533
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: Give me apple, an apple, all right, Jad, What what

1534
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: would possibly tempt you?

1535
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if you say orange, will napp. I've

1536
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 5: always been amazed at how crazy people are for peanut butter.

1537
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I like peanut butter, but when I see

1538
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 5: people on Survivor literally giving away million dollars for peanut butter,

1539
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 5: sometimes I just shake my head. Now it's got a hat.

1540
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 5: It's it if I'm not hungry and I'm in the sun,

1541
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 5: and uh, I just want crap. So I it would

1542
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 5: be hot dogs, but it would have to be with

1543
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 5: a beer, like an ice cold beer. He came out

1544
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 5: with like a tray of hot dogs. Yes, fine, I

1545
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 5: could be tempted by that, But a picture of ice

1546
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 5: cold beer, that's it. For me, I would I would

1547
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 5: give up a million.

1548
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 4: Dollars for that.

1549
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ice cold beverages of any kind, I think

1550
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: you just see them glistening. Maybe that's what tass this

1551
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: thing is seeing a glistening apple it Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1552
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that tray.

1553
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: Oh just a single grape they bring out.

1554
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: It looks just so juicy and plump.

1555
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 4: Uh.

1556
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: No, for me, it would be a pizza. They brought

1557
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: out a big fat pizza. I'm like, all right, Jeff,

1558
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: that one's worth a million dollars. But Doug makes a

1559
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: good point. Fahitos would be good because they smell great

1560
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 2: and they sound great too.

1561
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 1: They come out all sizzling.

1562
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: That's a two to three senses you're getting assaulted with there.

1563
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would push back on pizza tray too, because

1564
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: pizzas we've seen on Survivor in the past have not

1565
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: looked all that out of it.

1566
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 2: Very true.

1567
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: I don't think they're making a lot of pizzas in Fiji.

1568
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: I haven't figured it out yet. So yeah, I hear you, like, yeah,

1569
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: you saw a great pizza from your favorite joint. Yeah,

1570
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: then maybe, but some of those you've seen are like

1571
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: those don't look good at all.

1572
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why peanut butter is such in demand, because

1573
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: people are like, oh it's peanut butter. I mean they

1574
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 2: just brownd out peanuts. It should be fun.

1575
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really I've thought about this. I actually

1576
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: think it is a beverage more than food that would

1577
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: really get me. I love a coke, I love a beer.

1578
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: I love a you know, a Lacroix, like orange juice.

1579
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: I would go nuts, maybe even apple juice. Task maybe

1580
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: we could put something together there. I would. I just

1581
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: I would want a beverage more than even food. Maybe

1582
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying that now having a full belly, but I

1583
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I can get full beer.

1584
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: Beer fills me up. You know, it's like a meal.

1585
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: So I get a Guinness out.

1586
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 5: There, be nice for sure. Twelve.

1587
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: Great question, Doug. That's a fun one. All right. So

1588
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: let's let's wrap it up here. But final question here,

1589
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: Final Travel Council. Who wins the title? Let's just our

1590
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: final prediction. Last time we got to do this. Who

1591
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: wins the title of Soul Survivor Tasks? You put it

1592
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: all on the line. Let's get some bets going on this.

1593
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 4: It's I find it difficult to go away from Tony

1594
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 4: at this point. Yeah, I can't do it. I'm trying

1595
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 4: to make the case for somebody else, but the other

1596
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 4: four standing in Sarah, Ben, Michelle, Denise and whoever comes back.

1597
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 4: I like the split vote idea. There's a case to

1598
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 4: be made for Denise. But in the end, I think

1599
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 4: Tony's done a great job of not being over bearing

1600
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 4: but also controlling the game.

1601
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So, so Task says we do get a new

1602
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: we've got a queen and Sandro, We're gonna get a

1603
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 1: king and Tony because that's however, he will be remembered

1604
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: as the King of Survivor if he does win this thing.

1605
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: So okay, JD. Trey disagree. Agree with Tony's Tony pick, though.

1606
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 5: You can put me down for Sarah. I think that

1607
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 5: if it's between the two of them, I think that

1608
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 5: she can convince the jury that she was in control

1609
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 5: of Tony's moves and she worked with him all along.

1610
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 5: And I think if she's smart, she gets rid of

1611
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 5: him like immediately, like the next the next vote. Somehow,

1612
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 5: I don't know how. He's got a he's got an

1613
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 5: idol in his pocket, and he may very well win immunity.

1614
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 5: But still I think that I think that she's got

1615
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,799
Speaker 5: a shot. But I will also say that I'm rooting

1616
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 5: very very hard for Michelle. I I don't know why.

1617
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 5: I just I just like her. I was on my

1618
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 5: feet rooting her on on that Domino challenge and I

1619
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 5: was fist pumping in the air and make it and

1620
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 5: as just like, yeah, I was cheering for her. So

1621
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 5: I'm cheering hard for Michelle. But I think Sarah's going

1622
01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 5: to take it.

1623
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 4: It comes from the service industry, like you did once

1624
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 4: out of time, JD.

1625
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 5: Just relate to her somehow, Trey.

1626
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: I think we're chiseling Tony's face on the Survivor Mount

1627
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: Rushmore after next week's episode. Sandra's there, Rob's there, I

1628
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: think Parverty's there. The fourth it's up in the air.

1629
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: But if you win winners at War, you're definitely there.

1630
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, gotta be.

1631
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: My pick. Wow. I've been saying for the longest time

1632
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: that I do think a woman is gonna win this.

1633
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: So that is why I'm inclined to think of Sarah

1634
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: or even a Michelle or even Denise. It's gonna be

1635
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: a woman. I just I just know it. I don't

1636
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: know why And I've been pretty good when you know,

1637
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: some of my friends are having babies and we're trying

1638
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 1: to guess the gender, you know. I mean, I'm like

1639
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: ninety percent correct over the years on that. So I'm

1640
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: going woman, and I am going to go with you JD.

1641
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm going Sarah. I think we are going to get

1642
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: the backstab and that is gonna get her the win.

1643
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: I think she somehow does it to Tony. I think,

1644
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's got you. She's got you.

1645
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: She's not dumb, she's not a dumb woman. She's gonna

1646
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: she's gonna wise up and say I can't sit there

1647
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: with them, despite what you're trying to tell me that

1648
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: you think maybe she could convince the jury. I don't

1649
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: think she'd know. I don't think she truly believes that.

1650
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: So I'll go Sarah getting rid of Tony here. I

1651
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: don't think Tony's gonna be in the finale because we

1652
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: have so many times seen in Survivor where the best

1653
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: player that year doesn't get there right, you know, like

1654
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: goes out at five, goes out at four, got the idol,

1655
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: that's huge, But maybe he goes out in the fire

1656
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: making challenge. Maybe he gets put into that and can't win,

1657
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: so we'll see.

1658
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 5: All right, are you the best player if you don't

1659
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 5: make it to the end though?

1660
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're not. No, you're not.

1661
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 4: No, you're not.

1662
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: Guys, get your questions in for next week's Finals No

1663
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: Buffs episode. Email us no Dunks at the Athletic dot Com.

1664
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: Make sure you throw survivor in the subject. Tomorrow on

1665
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: film session, we're reviewing the iconic nineties basketball movie Above

1666
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: the Rim. I've locked that one in. We'll be watching

1667
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Someoneost'll be watching that today' anybody watched it yet?

1668
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 5: I haven't watched it?

1669
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, good try No not.

1670
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 2: Recently, I've been spending my time practicing how to put

1671
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: a razor blade in my mouth.

1672
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: And I assume task has just been playing basketball against

1673
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: nobody without even basketball playing out there on a court.

1674
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: All right, So that is tomorrow's film session, Friday's film

1675
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: session Above the Rimslet make sure you watch that. Will

1676
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun breaking down that one. Some

1677
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: of the guys haven't seen it. Hopefully Lee's connection will

1678
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: be a little bit better for Friday's film session. He

1679
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: wanted me to tell you, guys, too, if you're catching

1680
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: this pod early enough here on Thursday or even after

1681
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: the fact, because you can go back and watch them.

1682
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: Lee has another very special guest lined up for No

1683
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: Dunks Throwback Thursday, Poppin' Packs, where he opens up an

1684
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: old pack of basketball cards that'll be live today on

1685
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: Instagram TV three pm Eastern at No Dunks, Inc. At

1686
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: No Dunk's i NC. He said, I don't know who

1687
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: it is. He said, it's an Emmy Award winning guest

1688
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: got in his bag again. Hopefully his Wi Fi is

1689
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: up to speed, or it could be a long opening

1690
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: of packs. Anyway, we'll see, all right. Until next time, guys,

1691
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: the tribe is spoken.