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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Betting

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Speaker 1: Pros NFL podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. With me,

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Speaker 1: of course, is Matt host of the Daily Juice podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can find him on Twitter at Sports Talk Matt. Matt.

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Speaker 1: What's up Week four?

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Speaker 2: Let's get going here. We're kind of tread and water.

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Speaker 2: We're like a duck right now. We're just gonna tread

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Speaker 2: and water. We've gotta get going.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, it's unfortunate that we're not able to

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Speaker 1: bet on the most exciting game of the week, which

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Speaker 1: is the Jets. I mean, we could.

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Speaker 2: How do feel, honest to gosh, as a Jet fan?

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about your football team right now?

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Speaker 1: I think my football team is one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: embarrassments in the country, which says a lot. I think

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Speaker 1: that they're horrific and they have the worst coach in

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Speaker 1: the league. I tell you what I really think about

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Speaker 1: the season. Though. What really bugs me.

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Speaker 2: By the way, at the top of taping, you have

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Speaker 2: the worst coach in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's true, although there's a report today that they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to fire him. I was like, great. It doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna I mean, whether he survives this season

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Speaker 1: or not. I don't know. The big thing for me

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Speaker 1: is I don't Maybe you feel differently. I don't really

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Speaker 1: feel like I have enough of the sense of whether

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Speaker 1: I can evaluate Darnald Yet he makes some horrific throws

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Speaker 1: and some terrible decisions, but he also unquirks a lot

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Speaker 1: of pretty amazing things that I've seen him do, and

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Speaker 1: I never I don't think he's been given a fair shake,

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Speaker 1: given his coach and given the team they put around him.

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Speaker 1: So I guess out of curiosity before we get into it,

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Speaker 1: how do you how do you feel about Darnald in

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Speaker 1: the future, Because I could see us getting the number

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Speaker 1: one pick, drafting Lawrence, getting rid of Darnald, and then

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Speaker 1: him winning like six championships for the Pats or something

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Speaker 1: like that. Right Like, That's how I can see it.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe, I mean you kind of have to

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Speaker 2: ask me tomorrow morning, because I bet the Jets do

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Speaker 2: win today. So at naldas if he plays his butt

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Speaker 2: off and he's you know, lighten up that defense for

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Speaker 2: the Broncos, and I'm gonna be like, go Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: If he loses tonight, I'm gonna say tank for Trevor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm sure it won't be impressive no matter what.

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Speaker 1: But either way, we are, unfortunately both on the Jets side,

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Speaker 1: not in our contest, and we are not advising anybody.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, yell at us at the Jets lowers. It's

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Speaker 1: just a game that you bet because otherwise, even as

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Speaker 1: a Jets fan, there's absolutely no reason to watch. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into every game for this weekend,

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Speaker 1: as we do every single time we record. But as always,

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Speaker 1: let us recap where we are in the Draft Kings Championship.

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Speaker 1: We were five and five coming in, so just kind

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Speaker 1: of treading water, and as Matt said, we're still kind

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Speaker 1: of treading water. We went three and two last week,

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Speaker 1: so at least a winning week. We're two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty fifth out of six hundred and eighty nine, so

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Speaker 1: not great, but not the worst in the world. We

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Speaker 1: missed on the Chargers laying six and a half to

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. Remind us never to back a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: As you said, no good. We did hit on the

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Speaker 1: Steelers laying three and a half to the Texans, the

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Speaker 1: Pats laying five and a half to the Raiders, which

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Speaker 1: we both loved, and the chiefs S getting three and

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Speaker 1: And on the podcast, we had picked the Titans laying

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Speaker 1: him off of that number, so we decided to move off.

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Speaker 1: We didn't really have another pick that we love, so

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Speaker 1: Matt allowed me to go with the Giants getting three

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Speaker 1: and a half from the four Nines, which just missed.

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Speaker 1: But also the other games that we were thinking about

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go back and forth a bit. Matt is

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Speaker 1: going to list his top choice. I will list my

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Speaker 1: He sounds like he is not feeling all that good

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Speaker 1: I have, Matt. I think I have nine games that

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Speaker 1: if you came up, I don't feel great. But let

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that again. I will remind everybody props

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Speaker 1: props are not out yet. That's just the way it

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Speaker 1: late So again I will remind you. Matt does a

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Speaker 1: live stream on our YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 1: Betting Pros on Sunday morning at eleven am Eastern, so

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Speaker 1: that's eight am Matt's time. He goes through the entire

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Speaker 1: slate for the week, if you've changed anything. He also

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Speaker 1: does props. I give him a couple of props. I

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Speaker 1: all my props. Again, I do fantasy projections. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: things are starting to normalize a little bit, because the

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Speaker 1: do that. As always, if we change any of the

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Speaker 1: picks we discussed today, we will note them on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Tan Harris Ati at Sports Talk. Matt, let's get

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Speaker 1: into it, Matt, start us off. Who is your Do

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Speaker 1: you have any games that you are like excited about?

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Speaker 1: Again, yes, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: You gonna start with the one I like the most.

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Speaker 1: You can, Matt, the world is your oyster man. Start

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Let's Biggs Raiders at home catching

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Speaker 2: two and a half? Oh wow, already and out of

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Speaker 1: Okay, how long how long are you just going to

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna be like, I don't know next year

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Speaker 2: So you tell me, should they have one last week? No?

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Speaker 2: So we're going on a team that got a massive break.

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Speaker 1: We know a couple of guys who are not coming back,

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have Josh Jacobs is playing. That's all

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Speaker 2: destroy the Bills. Gave up so many rushing yards in

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Speaker 2: are going to run the ball and Diacops is the

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Speaker 2: best back of the three teams that they got. Going

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Speaker 2: Jacob's prop over everything. Josh Jacobs leads to this team

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Speaker 2: to a victory. They're gonna win this game outright at

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Speaker 2: home and beat the Buffalo Bills take the two and

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I heard you talk about it

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Speaker 1: it's part of our network of podcasts. The Daily Jews

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Speaker 1: I knew this was coming, that I was ready for it,

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Speaker 1: all right, is this something I feel comfortable with? First

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Speaker 1: of all, you have it at three though, right.

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Speaker 2: That's it, That's what I bet it at. Yes, but

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Speaker 2: I think they win the game outright, So any points

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Speaker 2: in general, I like, why?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how are are bad teams? And they should

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Speaker 1: Okay, how are the Raiders gonna be able to stop

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a high scoring game, but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: A high scoring game. How I don't understand is Josh

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Speaker 1: probably put for Davius White on Darren Waller, and right,

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Speaker 2: Looks good in a Raider uniform? Looked good. Derek Carr

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Speaker 2: all right, And Waller will be force fed. I thought

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Speaker 1: How many people from either your radio show or from

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Speaker 1: your podcast, get like, get on you on Twitter for

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Speaker 1: how much you fade the Bills.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be like I want to say, it's

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Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of Bills fans out here from that

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Speaker 2: are negative and one percent say you're right. I mean literally,

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Speaker 2: I've had people say you need to apologize. I've had

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Speaker 2: them say you need to go on an apology tour,

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Speaker 2: that you need to bet the Bills every time. Now

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Speaker 2: I want you wearing a Bill's jersey by the end

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Speaker 2: of the season, all all sorts of I'm gonna maintain

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Speaker 2: this and look, I talked to someone from Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Focused on my show today who said that Josh Allen's

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Speaker 2: numbers when he's pressured are better than Josh Allen's numbers

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Speaker 2: in a clean pocket. That tells you that that's a

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Speaker 2: regression coming in a big, big way. When you're more accurate,

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Speaker 2: when you're getting guys in your face, that's luck. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're getting lucky that you're completing these passes and having

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Speaker 2: big numbers. A regression for the Bills offense is coming

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends still in Buffalo, I

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Speaker 1: have some family in Buffalo. I went to school there,

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Speaker 2: But did you see that stupid thing going around Twitter

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Speaker 2: you clowns. Just cut it out, Just get out of here.

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Speaker 2: The guy can't hit a broad set of a barn still, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Is to everyone in Buffalo. I love duff Swings, man,

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Speaker 1: I would I would go get some Duffs right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, which funny I have? I have a chicken wing

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Speaker 1: with this one. Saints slaying three and a half to

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Speaker 2: See this is the week of home dogs. That really

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Speaker 2: And you've been fitting the Lions. You faded my Lions

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Speaker 2: won the game outright. On the part on the Cardinals,

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Speaker 2: an absolute destroyer of defenses. I'm concerned about the Saints

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Speaker 2: I mean, Stafford played really well. Galladay was a beast.

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Speaker 2: else have you got there? But that's a scary number

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Speaker 2: for me. I really I gotta I'm very concerned about

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Speaker 1: That's totally fine. And again, this is part of what

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Speaker 2: Here right yep, Eagles plus seven and a half really

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Speaker 2: You know they're playing so poorly. There are so many

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Speaker 2: If you're Doug Peterson, you lose this game, you're O

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Speaker 2: I don't think Carson Wentz is this bad. I think

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Speaker 2: this game, I think, but not by more than seven points.

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Speaker 2: I love the seven and a half the hook here

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that the hook. It's on my list,

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you here. I mean, they're just

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Speaker 1: absolutely ludicrous. I'm okay with it. So let's put that

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Speaker 1: This is sort of I guess similar to the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Look here's the thing with the Panthers and I got

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Speaker 2: they'll go to different running backs. It's not just all McCaffrey. McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: But it's still Christian McCaffrey. So this Panthers team, I know,

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Speaker 2: And I think there was just some points left on

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Speaker 2: field goals. So maybe it was a little bit of

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00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,200
Speaker 2: a better performance than I thought offensively. But the Cardinals,

431
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you, coming off of a loss. It's only

432
00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,920
Speaker 2: three and a half. And Hopkins, I think he's gonna play.

433
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a guy who's notorious for, you know,

434
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,879
Speaker 2: not practicing during the.

435
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,720
Speaker 1: Ab doesn't play, I will revisit it and we you

436
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,440
Speaker 1: know again, I always said on Saturday night, I always

437
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 1: tweeted out what our final picks are because that's when

438
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 1: I put them in. I don't put them in. We

439
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,919
Speaker 1: can put them in on Sunday morning. I put them

440
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Speaker 1: in on Saturday night. So follow us on Twitter, Dan

441
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 1: Harris at Sports Talk mat just in case we change it.

442
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Speaker 1: But assuming he plays, which right now I'm assuming he does,

443
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm totally on board with it. So this is good.

444
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 1: It's an in penn subject to Hopkins, go to your

445
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 1: next one.

446
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 2: Good second one. Why are the Cowboys favored by four

447
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,480
Speaker 2: and a half points? Mmm?

448
00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 1: This is a good question.

449
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 2: This is kind of nuts to me. I mean, the

450
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 2: Cowboys are not good right now. They've got big problems.

451
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 2: They have internal issues with whether or not the owner

452
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,679
Speaker 2: is saying things about Dak Prescott publicly saying he's not

453
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, and well who is? But so so Jerry

454
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 2: Jones's comments were interesting. I think there's big issues, and

455
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 2: I think the Browns are coming along here and they're

456
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 2: starting to grow on me. And I think Stefanski's offense

457
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 2: is starting to take hold a little bit. That defense

458
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 2: playing a little bit better than maybe we thought they

459
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 2: were going to be. And it's four and a half,

460
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,800
Speaker 2: so again, this is the numbers play for me. But

461
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,239
Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys win the game, but they might win.

462
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 2: I think they went by a field goal. I'll take

463
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 2: the four and a half points here with the Browns.

464
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I want to know though, whether

465
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: or not if Kareem Hunt misses this game because he's

466
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 1: mispracticed several days in a row now with a groin injury,

467
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: and today Odell Beckham Junior popped up on the injury

468
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: report with a back injury that he's apparently playing through.

469
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, because this is a big

470
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: game for Beckham coming. I think he's fully healthy, right,

471
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 1: I mean, the corners can't stop him. I I I

472
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: it was on my list, So I'm good with it

473
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: right now. That that does make me a little worried

474
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: about it. I'm not sure, you know, I don't think

475
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: Den's Award is going to come back and play yet,

476
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 1: which I don't really think matters. I think it's gonna

477
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: be shooting. But I what I really get at is

478
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 1: after that first game against the Ravens, we were like, oh, no,

479
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: same old Browns. But they I mean, yes, they let

480
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati backdoor cover, but they they completely dominated that game, yep,

481
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 1: and against the Washington football team, so they're they're a

482
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 1: better team than they're being given credit for. And if

483
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: you're if you're saying, why don't we fade the Cowboys,

484
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm totally about that. Like every single week, I'm fining

485
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 1: to do that because I was. I've been about them

486
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,719
Speaker 1: and I've been like, oh, I think they're gonna do it,

487
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 1: but no, Yeah, I'm good with that. Let's put that

488
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: one in in like a raceable pay and just in

489
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: case we've got something there. But I'm pretty good with that.

490
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good with that. I have a couple of

491
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: other games and I like, let me go, and I

492
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: have a feeling you're not gonna like this one, although

493
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,239
Speaker 1: you probably just hate both these teams. You're like, this

494
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: is just to stay away to me. But there's another

495
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 1: road favorite, so I know you're not loving it. The

496
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: Colts laying two and a half to Chicago. The Bears

497
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 1: are the most fraudulent three to zero team in like

498
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: the history of the National Football League. They've barely squeaked

499
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: by the Lions, the Giants, and the Falcons. I think

500
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: the Colts defense is legitimate. I mean, forget about what

501
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: they did to the Jets. You and I could do

502
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: that to the Jets. They destroyed Minnesota, which I think

503
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: you know you saw last week Minnesota against Tennessee. They

504
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: can score, they can put up points. I think what

505
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: they did there is a lot on their defense as

506
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: opposed to you know, the Vikings offense. They didn't play

507
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: well against Jacksonville. They let them get back into the game.

508
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: It's fine, you can do that. They've got a lot

509
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: of injuries on offense. They're without Paris Campbell, they're without

510
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Jr. But the offensive line is elite. I

511
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: think they've kind of got this figured out right now

512
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: where they're going to go to a lot of two

513
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: tight ends scents so they can get in Moley Cox

514
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: and Jack Doyle. And I think they've got enough on

515
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: offense if you're laying less than the field. Though, Like,

516
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: I think the Colts are gonna win this game. I

517
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: think Chicago stinks for I mean that that's oversetting it.

518
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: So for me, I like the Colts even in Chicago

519
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: laying two and a half.

520
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: Are you afraid about teams preparing for for Foals and

521
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: the and the You know the reason why that fellow

522
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: that thing fell apart is because they prepped for Trubetsky.

523
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, we're talking about Atlanta blowing a massive fourth quarter league.

524
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah? I know, But I just wonder. I mean,

525
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: because I thought about this game. I mean I looked

526
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: at it and I went, Okay, what do I think

527
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: is the most likely thing to happen? Yeah, the Colts

528
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: probably winning, and if they win, they probably win by

529
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: and cover this. But man, I'm concerned about.

530
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: But the thing is, it's not like the prepared. They're

531
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: not preparing. They haven't been preparing for this game for weeks.

532
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: This is in the first game of the season where

533
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: they've been like, oh, we're getting ready for Drubisky. They've

534
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: been preparing for it. They've known Foles was gonna be

535
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback.

536
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: Now.

537
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I do not like betting against Nick Foles. I really don't,

538
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: because he is able to do that. He didn't really

539
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: play all that well against the Falcons. He really didn't.

540
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: He made a lot of, you know, questionable throws. Both

541
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: the guys in our Fantasy Football podcast, Mike tag Leaire

542
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: and Kylli Yeates are Bears fans. Like they were lamenting

543
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: the fact almost that they won, and everybody was lauding

544
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 1: Nick Foles because as much as he brought them back,

545
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: he did even play well. But I'm okay, we've got

546
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: question marks about that one. You don't feel that good

547
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: about it, That's okay.

548
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: I just don't know who the Colts are yet. That's

549
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: my thing. Like what Jonathan Taylor should have had a

550
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: monster game last weekend.

551
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Tag said the exact same thing on

552
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: the Fantasy podcast. They had that game one from a

553
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: minute in and they knew it. They didn't need to

554
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: do anything. So Johnathan Taylor, I know we're all disappointed

555
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: at his production, even though he found the end zone.

556
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: Tags mentioned it on our Fansy Pros Football podcast that

557
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: he was like, he didn't just I don't know. He

558
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: didn't look like he had good vision. He wasn't making anyone.

559
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 2: He was running into the line into lineman. Yes, he

560
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: was running street in the he was. He wasn't bouncing.

561
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: He was like, the hole wasn't there, and he's like,

562
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: I don't care, I'm going through the eight.

563
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

564
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: It was it.

565
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: Was disinterest, that's what it was. It was this game

566
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: is over. Let's just run the clock out. It doesn't

567
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: really matter. That's what I think about it. Anyway. I'm

568
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: not I'm not willing to be worried whatsoever about Taylor

569
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: because a lot of people were asking about that from

570
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: a fantasy perspective. I'm not worried about it all now.

571
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: I just think it was give me whatever, this game's over.

572
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: So this is interesting, But that's fine. It's okay because

573
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: we do have three games already that we are both

574
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: willing to go with So you have questions about that,

575
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: that's fine. Do you have another one? Then, who's your

576
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: next one?

577
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: Well? I only have one left because we agree on

578
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: the we agree on the Browns, and we agree on

579
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Correct, I only have one left. And you might,

580
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: you might actually kind of go, what the at this?

581
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: Pick a ready Houston Texans at home lay in three

582
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: and a half.

583
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Okay, it's all right, So it's not on my list,

584
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: but talk me through it. It's not it's not on

585
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: the it's not on the other side, So talk me

586
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: through it.

587
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: Okay. So the Vikings I think are not a good

588
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: football team right now. And I think when you have

589
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: an zero to three football team who have played the

590
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean, arguably the hardest beginning of any season that

591
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: I can remember. I'm forty three. I can't remember a

592
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: harder start to a year than to go up against

593
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: the Ravens Chiefs and on the road at Pittsburgh. Yeah.

594
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: That that is just absolutely ridiculous. So I think Watson

595
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: and company have a big day. I think this defensive

596
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: secondary for the Vikings is young, inexperience and clueless. There's

597
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 2: going to be about thirteen thousand fans in the building,

598
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: so it's going to have a little bit of a

599
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: home field advantage. I think their back to are against

600
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: the wall, and they know that you're paying Watson all

601
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: this money you gave up on Hopkins, you traded him away.

602
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure on O'Brien in company to

603
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: deliver here and turn the ship around. I think it

604
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: starts here with this Vikings team that's really bad and

605
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: I think they've got their COVID questions going around. They

606
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: missed practice, miss two days of practice in preparation for Watson.

607
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: I think this is where the finally a win for

608
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: the Texans by seven.

609
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I don't hate it. I lean

610
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 1: towards the Texans so we can put it in pencil.

611
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about a few things. Number One,

612
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: there are a lot of injuries popping up on the

613
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: practice board this week. Will Fuller, who is always actually

614
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: injured on the on the injury board, I think with

615
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: a hamstring, so we'll have to monitor a status because

616
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: he does really change that oftense a bit. Number Two,

617
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried that the Vikings found something here

618
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: with Justin Jefferson and realizing what they needed to do

619
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: to score points offensively, so I'm a little worried that

620
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: they might be able to keep it close. They're also desperate,

621
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in a different way, but they

622
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: are desperate. So I'll put that one in pencil, and

623
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a couple other games here

624
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: that we can think about. So we've got these, We've

625
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: got these these too. I'm going to put the Colts

626
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: on on. It wasn't an outright absolutely not. We're not

627
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: going to do it right. Neither are the Texans. So

628
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: we've got the Saints definitely not, and the Raiders definitely not.

629
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: Let's go let me ask you this because I know

630
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: that the number here annoys you. Where it is on DraftKings,

631
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it's dipping on circuits on circa.

632
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: But what about the Pats. They're getting six and a

633
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: half in casey, what are they in the circa for

634
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: the same Okay.

635
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing on this game. I'm gonna

636
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: bet this game, all right. I'm also gonna tease this game,

637
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: taking the Patriots at eight when it gets there. Now,

638
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna get there. It's not there yet, but the

639
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: Patriots plus eight because I think the books are gonna

640
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: go there for teasers, they're gonna go to eight. So

641
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get eight at some point in

642
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: the next twenty four to forty eight hours.

643
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard you talking about that too.

644
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: I'll I'll take the Pats at eight and I am

645
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Speaker 2: going to at seven. In a contest, I would take

646
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 2: the Patriots at six and a half. I would take

647
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.

648
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. And the consensus line right now again,

649
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Speaker 1: I'm on betting pros. I coming to get consensus lines.

650
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple of the breakdowns by the

651
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Speaker 1: way of how the consensus experts are doing the picks.

652
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: Fifty five percent still on the Pats even at six

653
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: and a half. If I have to choose one, I'll

654
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: still go to the Pats. I think this sets up

655
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: really well for them that the you know, brilliant game

656
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: by everybody on the Chiefs, they don't stop the run

657
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: as well. I think you're gonna get a lot in

658
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Newton as they try to control the clock. They do

659
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: what the Ravens basically look like they were going to

660
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: try to do from the get go, and then they

661
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: just turned into a passing machine, which when they fell behind.

662
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: You can't go down. I mean, the Pats and the

663
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: Ravens are gonna run the same offense, and if they

664
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Speaker 2: go down by fourteen, it's all she wrote, it's game over.

665
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's fair. So I do lean that

666
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: way at six and a half. But it is something

667
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: where you know, I know that the hook really is

668
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: what it is, and I think if you're getting there

669
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: and you can get that in Vegas, well you should.

670
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Speaker 1: I'm go ahead.

671
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean I'm mad. I mean, I'm about this line.

672
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: I think this is a mistake by both contests.

673
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: And I understand six and a half by the way

674
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Speaker 1: you said, yeah, it's.

675
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Speaker 2: In both its six and a half, and I think

676
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: it's wrong because this number is going to be off

677
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: by a point and a half. Yeah, And so that

678
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: ticks me off because normally they predict where the number

679
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: is gonna go. You're telling me that people are going

680
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: to the window to bet the Patriots. Yeah, I mean,

681
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: come on, after what they just did in primetime on

682
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: Monday night football, that's not I mean, normally the Patriots

683
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs game would be on you know, prime time, blow

684
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: it up, Mark Key game, Brady versus you know, versus

685
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: the young stud and Patrick Mahomes defending champs against the

686
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: team that they beat against. You know, I believe Mahomes's

687
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: own three still against the Patriots or one and four

688
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: against Brady, so you would have had that whole storyline

689
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: going on, it's can Mahomes finally beat Brady? Well, that

690
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: was last week for them against the Ravens, so a

691
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: letdown game for the Patriots fits in perfectly for Belichick.

692
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: So I still think I think very much like the

693
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: Chargers game where the Church got out to a really

694
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: good start, I don't hate a bet on Patriots in

695
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: the first half here to have a lead at the half,

696
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: and then the second half the Chiefs get to life

697
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: and then they win the game, but maybe not covering

698
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: that six and a half point line. So like, I

699
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: don't hate a playing the Patriots, but from from a

700
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: betting perspective, I think you have to you have to

701
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: get seven or higher to bet it for the Patriots.

702
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: And it is seven out there. Again I mentioned it

703
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: on Betting Bros. We have the consensus lines from the

704
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Speaker 1: various sports books. We do have two seven's showing right now,

705
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: one at bet MGM and one at Fandle they're both

706
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: at plus seven, so that's a different But everybody else

707
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: that I can see is at six and a half.

708
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a tough one under a touchdown. It's

709
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: a li little bit tough for me to do. Let

710
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Speaker 1: me go down. By the way, a couple of just

711
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: the how the you know on betting bros dot com,

712
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: we have a bunch of experts. Matt and I make

713
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: our picks as well making picks, you get this consensus

714
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: of where people are with the lines. Now Philadelphia at

715
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: San Francisco it's minus seven in the consensus line, so

716
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Speaker 1: we're actually getting the better of the line, and still

717
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Speaker 1: sixty six percent of experts are going with Philly in

718
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Speaker 1: that sense. Yeah, I will say that even at Buffalo

719
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: laying three and a half to Las Vegas, seventy seven

720
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Speaker 1: percent of people are on Buffalo. So I just want

721
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Speaker 1: to put that out there for you. Uh, Indianapolis laying

722
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: two and a half to Chicago, which is the consensus line,

723
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Speaker 1: just like ours, that is, sixty percent of experts are

724
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: going with Indianapolis.

725
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: By the way, did you guys ever run the number

726
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Speaker 2: based upon what the what our experts go? Yes, totality

727
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: because I does it matter ifcause on a public side

728
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: of things, if seventy five percent are on one side,

729
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: I like being in the twenty five percent, right, So like,

730
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: so I'm curious about, like, well, how are our experts

731
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Speaker 2: doing if the seventy five percent matter? Like, does it

732
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Speaker 2: matter they run seventy five percent on one?

733
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Speaker 1: No? No, it's a good point. It's a good point

734
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: what I can also do and what I should I'll

735
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: do next time because I don't want to. I don't

736
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Speaker 1: want to lay ust too much as I have all

737
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: the moving parts. But you can look at the people

738
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Speaker 1: who are the most accurate, who are doing better in units,

739
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: and you can see just how they are picking any.

740
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: Snow, that's yeah, let's talk about those guys.

741
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: We're going to do those guys next week. Don't worry

742
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: about hopefully it will be me, me and you.

743
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: No. No, okay, I play straight because I'm doing strategy

744
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: in that. So I'm doing the like I never played

745
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: three unit games, but I'll do three unit games on that.

746
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: Fair, No, I do. I do much more of my

747
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: level of confidence that I definitely do change it and

748
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: I go higher on that. Okay, So just a couple

749
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: other ones because I want to just for the games

750
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: that we're going, Uh, the vikings at Houston, Houston lane

751
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: three and a half, sixty five percent with Houston, so

752
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: that that's something good. New Orleans giving four. We are

753
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: at three and a half, giving four to Detroit sixty

754
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: eight percent on New Orleans, Dallas sixty six percent laying

755
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: four and a half. That's not going to be me

756
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: and you though, seeat We'll get to that game in

757
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: a minute. Hold on, I want to talk about that one.

758
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: Are on Arizona?

759
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Oh good, are on Arizona?

760
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: So that sense and we've got that, and just so

761
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, fifty seven percent around the Jets, so we'll

762
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: hope that goes well. But anyway, let's move on here then,

763
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: and fifty five percent around New England. I may mention

764
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: that at six and a half, talk to me about

765
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: Seattle lank six and a half to Miami. Okay, it's

766
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: not a game.

767
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: I really want a hard game because it is right.

768
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: The sharp side. Do you agree that the sharp side

769
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: for me like the side that makes the most sense,

770
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: putting aside the Oh my god, it's Russell Wilson and

771
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: why are you ever going to bet against Russell Wilson.

772
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: To me, is Miami at home getting six and a half,

773
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: that that's the better side.

774
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, this is the week of home dogs,

775
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: and historically speaking, in the NFL, home team's catching points,

776
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: you want to be on that side, in particular over

777
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: a field goal. Teams at home getting more than a

778
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: field goal, you want to be on that side. So,

779
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean, granted, it's gonna be greasy and grimey in

780
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: a back door might be needed to cut it, but yeah,

781
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: I mean I think this is either a dog or

782
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: a no play for me because you can easily see

783
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: a letdown after the Cowboys and all this praise, all

784
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: this love. They're going literally to the too farthest. Seattle

785
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: to Miami is the farthest distance between cities you can

786
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: play in the NFL, so it's a huge road trip.

787
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: You're going into the heart of COVID nineteen country in

788
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: Miami and Miami Dade County. So you got that whole

789
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: concern going off for Seattle. I mean, yeah, I mean,

790
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: if I don't like this, but if I was gonna

791
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: take it, if I had to, I would take the Dolphins.

792
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: Yes, if you if you came in on this. You

793
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: were like, Dan, you know what I like? I like them.

794
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would take it. I know it's gross,

795
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: it's too big of a risk. I don't want to

796
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: be there on Sunday going against Russels.

797
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: I choose not right now that noneuthless DK Metco gets hurt,

798
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: right If DK Metco gets hurt, then it changes everything.

799
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: But he is a matchup nightmare for every defense. And

800
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: Wilson's got this crazy ability of throwing the football up

801
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: and it stays up there for like an eternity, and

802
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: Metcalf just runs underneath it and he plays basketball. He

803
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: boxes out the DBS. Awesome, it's incredible.

804
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's just as long as he can hold

805
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: onto the ball before he crosses the goal line, that's

806
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: he's unstoppable.

807
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: And he's unguardable. Even with double teams, he's unguardable. So

808
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: it's so difficult to look at Seattle and like their

809
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: defense gets to play better because they're always playing with

810
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: the lead, so they get in their ears back and

811
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: just go after the quarterback. And like, I mean, they're beatable.

812
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: But right now, I mean this whole like charge to

813
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: get Wilson MVP. I think the team really wants to

814
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: do it. I think this is like the calling card

815
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty for the for the Seattle Seahawks is

816
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: to get Russell Wilson the MVP because he's not.

817
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: Like he's playing out of control, and he does the

818
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: thing where he drops it in the bucket better than

819
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: anyone I can remember ever doing. Where he's able to

820
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: throw that ball. It's really amazing and it's great. It's

821
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: good to and again you talk about what they're going

822
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: to do in this game, they really have no running game.

823
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: Maybe Chris Carson plays, I doubt it. Even Carlos Hyde

824
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: is on the injury reports really going to be throwing.

825
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Miami is the right side. I

826
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: will probably have it, for example on our site. That's

827
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: the side that I would go with. But yeah, it

828
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: makes me a little worried about it getting into the contest.

829
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: So again, we may have our five and the three

830
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: we kind of like and we don't absolutely hate. But

831
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Speaker 1: let's go through a couple more here. I know this

832
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: goes against the paralism, so it's off the table. But

833
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: if you came in and you wanted hold on second, sorry,

834
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: this is just where my garage door opens.

835
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Speaker 2: I was like, that's what sounds like.

836
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Speaker 1: Can you hear it?

837
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Speaker 2: Oh?

838
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Clinton sometimes leaves us in the video. If you're

839
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Speaker 1: watching us on Bettingpros dot com Sash YouTube, Hello, my

840
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: office is on top of my garage and my wife,

841
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Speaker 1: without a doubt, and I do seven podcasts a week

842
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: no matter what time it is. She I guarantee you

843
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Speaker 1: she is leaving to come in and out of this

844
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Speaker 1: garage and you can feel free to here.

845
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Speaker 2: So you probably you'll hear my kid running around right

846
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Speaker 2: by me.

847
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Speaker 1: That's all right, that's all right. My kids are usually

848
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: best saying okay. So if you came and you said, Dan,

849
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: I just got this feeling. Man. I think they're going

850
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: to be so mad at what happened on Monday, and

851
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: I want to take the Ravens laying twelve and a

852
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: half to Washington. I would do it. I think they

853
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: are going to be so angry right now, Dwayne.

854
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Had I mean, this is a back door waiting to happen.

855
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: Of course it is, of course, which is why you know,

856
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: you know what it really probably is. It's a Dwayne

857
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Speaker 1: Haskins gets benched or you know, hurt, God forbid or

858
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: anything like that, and Kyle Allen comes in and scores

859
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: like two meaningless touchdowns for them to lose by ten

860
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: or something like that. So I get it. I assume it.

861
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: I assumed it was off the table, which is why

862
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: it was way.

863
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: Best to many. I mean, it's a prime teaser game.

864
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, go after's true.

865
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: Go after the teaser here and tease this thing down,

866
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: and I I think that's the way you'll be. But

867
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: twelve and a half is just get it below a touchdown,

868
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: and I agree, But you gotta protect against the back door,

869
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: and that back door is going to be open.

870
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: I think, well, in the consensus lines, it is now

871
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: up to thirteen and a half or fourteen at certain places,

872
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: and everybody's coming in, well.

873
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: You get me fourteen and a half. I think you bet.

874
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: You may wind up betting.

875
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: It's like last year, right with the Patriots, when you

876
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: were doing that at the beginning of the season, where

877
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, the Lion's just seventeen and I

878
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: don't even hate it. So that's where it is. Okay,

879
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: But that's fine. We can say all that one. And

880
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: I mean, unless you like the underdog, which I assume

881
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: you don't given how much you hate the Giants. The

882
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: Giants getting twelve and a half from.

883
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: The Rams, Oh my gosh, no, I mean.

884
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: I don't want that game at all.

885
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: But here's here's the thing, though, Should the Rams be

886
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: favored that much? But against anybody like the like I

887
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: don't like the number, but that again is a dog

888
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: or no play because yeah, I mean, I don't know

889
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: the Rams are good, but I mean I guess because

890
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: they're at home. It's it's you know, after the two

891
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: back to back trips of the East Coast, now they're

892
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: at home taking on a horrible team that they have

893
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: chance to put some numbers up on the board. But

894
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's that's a lot of.

895
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Points the who's the worst team? Giants or Jets? By

896
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: the way, because I've been getting this question one yeah

897
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: by far right, thank you, So all my friends who

898
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: are listening, you have it now from a and.

899
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm biased. There's not even a debate in my mind.

900
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: And that's what Oh exactly, that's what I'm saying. I'm like,

901
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand why there's a discussion, like

902
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: the Jets are on their own tier of terribleness, but yeah,

903
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: I look for me the Rams. Yeah, I get that

904
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: it seems crazy that it's that big a favorite, but

905
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: it's a game I don't want to touch. I mean,

906
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: it's just not something.

907
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: You can't lay in these contests. You can't lay double digits.

908
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: It's just even even out of the contest, though, I

909
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: don't want to touch it at all. Like, I get

910
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: that the spread sort of is like, wow, that's crazy.

911
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: I do think that the Rams offense, you saw what

912
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: they could do very easily. I mean, I know you

913
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: hate Buffalo's defense, but they can put up points in

914
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: an instant and especially if you've got something at home

915
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: or now on the road without noise for McVeigh to

916
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: be in golfzy or as you talk about all the time. Yep,

917
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: let's go to and by the way, sixty three percent

918
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: of experts at twelve and a half are leaning towards

919
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: the Rams. Let's go how about the Jaguars getting three

920
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: and a half from the Bengals. Do you have any

921
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: lean on that.

922
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: These are games I wouldn't bet with your money. Yeah,

923
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean you can, because here's the thing with the Jags. Okay,

924
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna be They're so tough to predict like I

925
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: thought against Miami, I was. I was on the Jags. Yeah,

926
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: they have talent. I mean they're not horrible, they're not great,

927
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: but they have talent. And so I look at I

928
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: don't know yet about Joe Burrow. I'm coming around. I'm

929
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: talking about betting on him. I'm coming around on the

930
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: idea that Burrow might be a guy that the books

931
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: are undervaluing his ability, his moxy, his toughness, his ability

932
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 2: to back door cover, which is you know, Joey backdoor

933
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: may be a nickname that we're given it because of

934
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: we're laughing about it, but that might stick. He might

935
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: be a dude that just even when they're losing, he

936
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: could come out. And then the tie last week against

937
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: the Eagles, I think that benefited the Bengals. It gives

938
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: them some confidence going into this game. So I don't

939
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: like it. But if I had to pick a side

940
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: to be on the Bengals.

941
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with the hook I'd go Jaguars. I

942
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: think that the I'm assuming Djhark plays because I really

943
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: think that the loss of DJ Tark last week was

944
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: completely messing them up. Chris Conley dropped to ball. I

945
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: just you know, it was. That doesn't explain why Ryan

946
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick almost set a record for you know, completions in

947
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: a row. But I think i'd probably lean at three

948
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: and a half towards the Jaguars. But again, it's a

949
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: complete stay away game. I think there's only two that

950
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: we haven't touched on. One of them is the Chargers

951
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: getting seven and a half from the Bucks.

952
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: See, let me throw it back at you for a second. Yes,

953
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: how good is this Bucks offense? When healthy? Uh?

954
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: When healthy? I think they're pretty good there. I don't

955
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: think they're an elite offense at this point because I

956
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: think that Brady has really taken a step back and

957
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: I think he's feeling.

958
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: The because it's strength on strength here. Okay, this is

959
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: defense for the Chargers offense for the pet for the Bucks,

960
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: I think they I think the Chargers keep this game

961
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: within a touchdown. I think the Bucks win. But if

962
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: I had to pick a side, I don't like it,

963
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: but I think the number matters to hear, I would

964
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: take the Chargers.

965
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: The consensus has gone down to seven for what it's worth,

966
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: so you're getting the hook. In the context. I think

967
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: there are a couple of things. I think Chris Godwin's

968
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: out right. I think that really hurts because I think

969
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: Godwin's huge. I think Scotty Miller maybe out. He's struggling

970
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: right now. I think with a Coroin injury which I

971
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: didn't even realize necessarily so, and I think Leonard Fournette

972
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: is going to be out. They're really hurting on offense.

973
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: But as you aptly predicted before we got into the season,

974
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: the Chargers are completely decimated with injuries. They just put

975
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: Chris Harris Junior on ir They lost Melvin Ingram, we

976
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: know they lost Irwin James, and I don't want to

977
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: bet on a rookie QB and this I just I

978
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: don't love him. I'd rather if you were willing, if

979
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: you felt the same way about it, and we had

980
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: to pick one, I would certainly go with the Colts

981
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: getting given the two and a half to the Bears.

982
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: There's one other game I think that we haven't tached on.

983
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: That's Monday Night, which is the Falcons getting seven and

984
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: a half from the Packers.

985
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: Tease it, tease it, tease it. This is my week,

986
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: this is my teaser. I'm teasing Green Bay down to one. Okay,

987
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: but I don't like this game, but I think I

988
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: think Green Bay wins, but I don't. I don't know.

989
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Alans are also is almost certainly. I think Fanta Adams

990
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: is coming back.

991
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think Adams back is a bit is

992
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: a bit it makes it.

993
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course it's a huge deal.

994
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: But I think they win. I think Green Bay wins,

995
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: but I don't like that number. I think that that's

996
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: heavy here, and because I think the Falcons, I mean again,

997
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: this is another team playing for their lives, and the

998
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: hook matters seven and a half. That hook matters to me.

999
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I uh, I don't like it either way.

1000
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I just don't want to go near it. I don't

1001
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: know what the Packers are. The Packers is good, I

1002
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: can't I can't really tell. I mean, Rodgers is playing

1003
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: at old Rogers level, but I'm still not convinced one hundred.

1004
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, it kind of throws it back in the face

1005
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: of a lot of us who expected the regression because

1006
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: of the one the one score wins last year. Yeah,

1007
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: and everyone said, oh, that team that went to the

1008
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game, they're not really that good because look

1009
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: how many games they won by one score. And in

1010
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: a way, it kind of showed us the other way

1011
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: of like, well, they were good enough to win and

1012
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: be on the right side of all those one scores. So,

1013
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think this Falcons team is really bad.

1014
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: And Laculio might come back. If he does, I think

1015
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: it's significance. But if he doesn't, you know, that's a

1016
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: that's a pretty big loss as well. And this Falcons

1017
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: team just keeps on finding new and impressive ways to

1018
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: blow games. So it's bad.

1019
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: It's really bad. Fifty nine Yeah, in primetime, fifty nine

1020
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: percent in Lambeau, fifty nine percent of people are of

1021
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: experts are on Green Bay at minus seven right here, Okay,

1022
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: So here's what I've got, man, and you tell me

1023
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. The Eagles are getting seven and a

1024
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: half from the four nine ers. We like that one.

1025
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: Yep.

1026
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are laying three and a half to the Panthers,

1027
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: we like that one.

1028
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: Yep.

1029
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: The Browns are getting four and a half from the Cowboys.

1030
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: We like that one.

1031
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

1032
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: The Texans are laying three and a half to the Vikings.

1033
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: You like that one. I'm okay with it and it's

1034
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: passable for me, okay. And the Colts are laying two

1035
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: and a half to the Bears. You don't like it,

1036
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: but you you don't hate it as much as you

1037
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: hate every other game.

1038
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't. Again, I don't hate it.

1039
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean I need rivers to not throw receptions and

1040
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: I need rivers to get rid of the football and

1041
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: nugets sacked and have pick sixes and whatnot.

1042
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: But as long as I can't guarantee any of that, yes,

1043
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: as long.

1044
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: As it doesn't happen, well, I think the Colts win.

1045
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think I think, Look, I will.

1046
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: I am a little worried about. I would feel better

1047
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: about it with Trubisky for sure.

1048
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I have a master's degree in favor lady

1049
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: fitting that guy. I love fitting that dude. Nick Fole

1050
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 2: scares me, just because I wonder if they're I mean again,

1051
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: you're playing with a new quarterback, new options, and I think,

1052
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: I mean it's funny Nick Knick's comments after the game

1053
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: of like I feel for Mitch and I was there,

1054
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: I've been there for Mitch. It's like, yeah, Bud, you

1055
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: don't care you're starting. Man, You've got a job again,

1056
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: and you know it's your job because Matt that Nanny

1057
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: was waiting. He was waiting to make that change. He

1058
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: wanted to do that when they signed him, but he

1059
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: couldn't do it until. I mean, he in a game

1060
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: in which Trebitsky didn't play that badly. He threw one pick,

1061
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: and the second time as soon as you threw a pick,

1062
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 2: he was benched. Boomly.

1063
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: I think what it was is they clearly wanted Foles

1064
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: to be the starter, but you couldn't go to Foles

1065
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: and ever go back to Mitch. It was it was done,

1066
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: so you had to start Mitch see what you had.

1067
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: And then he played terribly in that first game, and

1068
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: then miraculously had this awesome fourth quarter and they won

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Speaker 1: the game, and you're like, all right, well now we

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Speaker 1: kind of here. Which once he went to Foles, I

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Speaker 1: was talking with the guys too. They were like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they go back to my No, no,

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Speaker 1: this is done, and then started, okay, so those are

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Speaker 1: our five picks unless we change. If you talk to

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Speaker 1: you know you get some good inside information like you

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Speaker 1: often do, let me know and we can change it

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Speaker 1: and we will tweet it out again. Tune into Matt's

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Speaker 1: livestream eleven am eastern eight a m. Pacific on Sunday mornings.

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Speaker 1: He's going to go through the whole Sley. I'll let

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Speaker 1: you know if we change. I'll have some props for you.

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Speaker 1: As I did last week. I will send him a

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Speaker 1: couple of props on Saturday night that he can relate

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Speaker 1: to you guys. And that is it. Follow us along

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Speaker 1: again on Twitter at Dan Harris ad and that Sports

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Speaker 1: Talk Matt. Matt will talk to you in the Morning podcast.

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you next week or on the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Bros. Football Podcast. See them