Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yees? Goodness last culture?
Speaker 1: Yet again, they couldn't us, They couldn't stop as they tried.
Speaker 1: We forgot to book a guest yet again, that's what
Speaker 1: you mean. I don't know if we forgot to book
Speaker 1: a guest as much as I'm just enjoying my time
Speaker 1: with my sister lately. Absolutely, I really I think I'm
Speaker 1: having another Not that it's ebbs and flows or there's like,
Speaker 1: you know, re visiting phases of like, oh, I'm in
Speaker 1: my honeymoon with my sister, But I really I think
Speaker 1: it's it's been a sustained many years of just thinking
Speaker 1: I appreciate the girl. And I don't mean to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, disaster will rear its ugly head, not not
Speaker 1: were you sorry? And that was just my long winded
Speaker 1: way of saying that I've been loving way sister. I
Speaker 1: was actually thinking about you well all the time, but
Speaker 1: yesterday I was thinking about you because I am in
Speaker 1: Chicago right now, I'm recording live from Chicago. Everyone, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. In Chicago, does come out to my show.
Speaker 1: One of the best cities, one of the best cities.
Speaker 1: And do you know what memory I was telling Henry
Speaker 1: about the other day, which I realized I had never
Speaker 1: told him because I think it even predated Henry, is
Speaker 1: this is this going to Berlin and the the man
Speaker 1: you went home with? No, not him, although we did
Speaker 1: we did talk about him, and I had told him
Speaker 1: about that because that was just a moment in time.
Speaker 1: What I was remembering was do you remember when we
Speaker 1: came with Papa Roulette to do Sketch Fest and the
Speaker 1: time I was just talking about this with Rachel, Amanda
Speaker 1: and Sudy who also were in pap Roulette, like the
Speaker 1: other night when we all had dinner. But do you
Speaker 1: remember the time when we came to Chicago and we
Speaker 1: had a huge deep dish pizza moment like before a show.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding you, Like we were so
Speaker 1: full of cheese and ship. We were we were very stoned.
Speaker 1: And then we went to go to like a deer
Speaker 1: Donald's um which we love everyone everyone loves to rag
Speaker 1: on der Donna's. We have and to love it still.
Speaker 1: And we went that night and we ate so much
Speaker 1: deep dish pizza before our show. It's sketch Fest. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, do you remember, just like there was Corio
Speaker 1: in the one song Beautiful Young, Remember Beautifully Young. It's
Speaker 1: just jumping up and down and you could feel everyone
Speaker 1: hit the ground and every jump like flush. It was
Speaker 1: just we were full of cheesy, shady poop. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Was that the same year as My Dinner? I think
Speaker 1: that was the night of My Dinner, because that was
Speaker 1: the night where it took so long for our dinner
Speaker 1: to get there that I was like, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for my Matt went into this like mobster voice or
Speaker 1: something where he was like he was like a mobster slash.
Speaker 1: He kept saying, better give me my fucking dinner. That
Speaker 1: was true, and it broke me. And then then we
Speaker 1: went back to this. We went, we stared that horrible.
Speaker 1: It used to be a Day's and I think it's
Speaker 1: a nicer hotel now. Um, I forgot. I went to
Speaker 1: Street on like Diversity or something, or like across from
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's, and we were so stoned after the show
Speaker 1: that we watched like some CNN documentary on the seventies,
Speaker 1: and the entire time Matt was stayed in the My
Speaker 1: Dinner ha ha. I don't even remember watching that. I
Speaker 1: remember and I remember crying and laughter any time you
Speaker 1: did my dinna ha ha. And that was one of
Speaker 1: those moments where I was like, this bitch is the
Speaker 1: funniest bitch on the planet. Girl. No, that was the
Speaker 1: stupidest bit, But I do. I just I just will
Speaker 1: never forget that night of Well, the fact is I
Speaker 1: had forgotten and I hadn't thought about it in song,
Speaker 1: and then i was just walking the streets the other
Speaker 1: night and I'm like, oh my god, it was like
Speaker 1: since memory, I could feel how full we were and
Speaker 1: we were doing our like jump up and down choreography,
Speaker 1: and do you remember we got off stage and it
Speaker 1: was like a race to the bathroom. We all had
Speaker 1: to ship so bad because we were shaking all the
Speaker 1: cheesy deep dish pizza in our bodies during the core
Speaker 1: and singing, which we had to sound so bad because
Speaker 1: we could barely breathe because of all the cheese and poop.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I just we've learned so much. Becomes such
Speaker 1: a long Waystince, just in terms of we would never
Speaker 1: do that to our bodies now. I don't think never again. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know about you, but even
Speaker 1: the littlest piece of like garbage food that I eat.
Speaker 1: I feel in my body now in a way where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, no, wonder I could. I felt like
Speaker 1: I could come to the world at twenty three eating
Speaker 1: deep dish before show. Now it's like, what did you
Speaker 1: do to prep for this? The show last night? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what's weird. I've become like, um, I've become
Speaker 1: kind of a shut in lately because I just really
Speaker 1: don't want to abuse my voice, like I really want
Speaker 1: to make sure because I have to do eleven shows
Speaker 1: all December. And the thing is, I'm not even just
Speaker 1: like I'm not even being like an obnoxious, like you know,
Speaker 1: vocalist type. I'm just like, I just know that I
Speaker 1: want to be able to get through the shows and
Speaker 1: it's important for the comedy that like it's sung well
Speaker 1: or whatever, and so I just I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: be literally as boring as possible and drinking a lot
Speaker 1: a tea with honey. I'm like I said, I'm off
Speaker 1: the sauce of marijuana. It's really helping. And now after
Speaker 1: my show tonight tomorrow, I have a whole day and
Speaker 1: night in Chicago, and I'm wondering, what are the things
Speaker 1: I should do. Gosh, it's been a while for me.
Speaker 1: There's just so many things to do in Chicago. But
Speaker 1: if you do, it's one of the best cities. It
Speaker 1: really is one of the best daies. If you have
Speaker 1: time to go up to like Andersonville or something. It's
Speaker 1: like the it's more of like a residential gay neighborhood
Speaker 1: um as opposed to boys Town. But like, there's lots
Speaker 1: of cute bars there. But again, if you're off the sauce,
Speaker 1: even though you you referred to the sauce as marijuana earlier,
Speaker 1: if you're off the sauce with alcohol is not after
Speaker 1: the show, I will have a couple. Okay, go up
Speaker 1: to Andersonville. There's a there's a cocktail bar there. I'm
Speaker 1: sure our Chicago readers are shouting the name right now.
Speaker 1: M but just google like Andersonville Cocktail Bar and get
Speaker 1: a martini there. It's delightful. And then you know other
Speaker 1: friends the other for other friends in town. You know,
Speaker 1: really race here. But he's he's leaving, um so recording
Speaker 1: this on Monday. He's leaving tomorrow, so I have like
Speaker 1: all of tomorrow to myself, which I kind of love.
Speaker 1: I kind of love just being in a city by yourself,
Speaker 1: going walking, doing the thing I missed being cold, as
Speaker 1: much as weird as that sounds, that, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: And this is again, this is just in reference to
Speaker 1: what we talked about last week with you know, you
Speaker 1: thinking that suity mean steadily throwing shade at you. But
Speaker 1: I think you could go to a museum. I want
Speaker 1: to her perfect solo activity, yes, yes, or watch a
Speaker 1: film that's in the you know Awards race. Well, I
Speaker 1: have something to say about that. Yeah, please tell us
Speaker 1: if you want about your experience watching West Side Story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to see West Side Story one a little
Speaker 1: bit early. And I don't know if you've been like
Speaker 1: sort of keeping up with the Oscar race of it all.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit last week, but I have
Speaker 1: a feeling this is going to come in and clear
Speaker 1: the deck because oh my god, is it good? Oh God,
Speaker 1: I can't wait. It's like, well, let's just first say
Speaker 1: because because we're still trying to lower her to the
Speaker 1: podcast Rachel Ziegler, she gets the end introducing Rachel Ziegler
Speaker 1: like moment at the end, like the credits, and honestly,
Speaker 1: I had forgotten that she hasn't done a million things
Speaker 1: just because she's such a natural as Maria, and it's
Speaker 1: such amazing casting. Her voice is unbelievable. She's got chemistry
Speaker 1: with everyone on screen. She just really cuts through. I
Speaker 1: mean you saw in the trailer when the when the
Speaker 1: shot of her in the gym, like you, this is
Speaker 1: a super star. Oh my god, this is it's really
Speaker 1: very exciting. And she's a little monster. She is a reader,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all all the titles. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: a reader. As far as I can tell. She always
Speaker 1: you know DMS ship that we say on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and I'm certain she heard us calling for her last week.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure, I'm sure it's just a thing where
Speaker 1: maybe it's you know, fucking publicists being like maybe not.
Speaker 1: That's my only theories, you know. So we have to
Speaker 1: get the official ask out because we haven't actually dumb
Speaker 1: the official ass. So well, we're going to talk to her.
Speaker 1: My thing is I just I'm this close to just
Speaker 1: dm ng the child and saying, hey, come on, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a great time. It's not gonna be like
Speaker 1: we're not gonna like try to like get a moment
Speaker 1: out of this. It's not us making it like we.
Speaker 1: I don't think we do this podcast to make headlines. Ever,
Speaker 1: I don't think we The lovely thing about this podcast
Speaker 1: is that we don't make headlines. The only headlines that
Speaker 1: we've made are that, um, I think Andy Cohen is
Speaker 1: banned to be from Watch What Happens like this. It's
Speaker 1: not even true, and I keep perpetuating that for myself,
Speaker 1: again my own interests. But I think Rachel should come
Speaker 1: out and have a great time. We would have an
Speaker 1: absolutely fabulous time. And I'll say this like, she is
Speaker 1: unbelievable in the movie the takeaway from it from me.
Speaker 1: When I left that theater, I felt a whole different
Speaker 1: way about ari Ariana's because because here's the deal. When
Speaker 1: I heard that Ariana Debos was cast as Anita, I
Speaker 1: was like, huh, because I've only seen her in things
Speaker 1: like the prom and you know, in Schnicka Dune she's
Speaker 1: literally playing like the buttoned up like school teacher and
Speaker 1: and she's got a kind of like a thankless role
Speaker 1: in the prom, So I thought she's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to you know, is she fiery? Like does she really
Speaker 1: like have it in that way? Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: think that Ariana Dubos in West Side Story is the
Speaker 1: best performance in a movie since Katherine data Jones in Chicago.
Speaker 1: I think, in my God, it's a slam dunk people.
Speaker 1: Of course she has spark. I mean she was Donna.
Speaker 1: She was Donna and the Donna Summer Musical, and I
Speaker 1: knew that, but I didn't see it. Did you see
Speaker 1: the US? I didn't, but I just think, you know
Speaker 1: that that was kind of my my my, like just
Speaker 1: that credit. You can't like flop in that role, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I was not going to um doubt
Speaker 1: her as Anita at all. Not that I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what you were you were doing,
Speaker 1: but like I was like, this seems pretty solid. Like
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of anyone else who I know who
Speaker 1: could play that. But I mean, I love it. I'm
Speaker 1: rooting Ferrariana all the way. Queer Legend we She's she
Speaker 1: seems great. And you know what's an interesting fact. If
Speaker 1: Kristin Stewart wins Best Actress at the Oscars, like they're
Speaker 1: saying she might, and if Ariana gets what she deserves
Speaker 1: and which is best Supporting Actress, then two Queer women
Speaker 1: will win the Oscars this year, and that would be
Speaker 1: very cool. That would be very cool. She is literally
Speaker 1: I mean bowen. Then I didn't really connect that I
Speaker 1: knew she was a Tony nominated actress for the Donna
Speaker 1: Summer Musical. I didn't connect or I didn't know. Did
Speaker 1: you know that she was on so you think you
Speaker 1: could dance? No, but I think she did Google that,
Speaker 1: Like that came up in a Google surgeon at one point,
Speaker 1: like fairly recently that yes, that's so cool, Like she
Speaker 1: dances so incredibly well, and it's like, remember, like this
Speaker 1: is like you know, all the best of the best
Speaker 1: are going to be in this movie. And when I
Speaker 1: tell you, she like sears through the screen. I saw um.
Speaker 1: I was next to Joe Kim Booster and he turned
Speaker 1: to me and he was like, I mean, she's absolutely
Speaker 1: killing it. And I think we forget sometimes like the
Speaker 1: role of Anita and West Side Story is maybe the
Speaker 1: best one of the best Yeah, oh yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: the plot entirely hinges on things that happened to her,
Speaker 1: and like the way she reacts to things, and there
Speaker 1: is a breath of emotions that you have to play
Speaker 1: on this part your comedy has to hit. You have
Speaker 1: to hit like in terms of like your sex appeal,
Speaker 1: you're dancing, your musicality, all of it. But then gets
Speaker 1: really real, it gets really real, and she dramatically slayed it.
Speaker 1: And it was kind of cool because at the end
Speaker 1: of the movie, um, when you know, after I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'm not ruining West Side Story for anyone, but Anita
Speaker 1: gets assaulted in the movie at the end of the movie.
Speaker 1: And so in the New West Side Story, the role
Speaker 1: of Doc is now played by Rita Moreno, who plays Valentino,
Speaker 1: who's his widow. So she eventually is she essentially is
Speaker 1: playing that role, and so it's her that's the one
Speaker 1: that chase all the men away that are assaulting and
Speaker 1: and it almost feels it feels poignant in a way.
Speaker 1: And then Rita Moreno, who's amazing in the movie, and
Speaker 1: she sings somewhere in the movie too, which is like
Speaker 1: a really cool change. But she has this moment where
Speaker 1: she turns to all them and I don't want to
Speaker 1: give away what she says, but it's just like feels
Speaker 1: very full circle and I'm sad in a way. That's um,
Speaker 1: that's I think really impactful and you know, Steven Spielberg
Speaker 1: is Spielberg for a reason, bitch, I mean it just
Speaker 1: just say is what it is? Name another legend? But
Speaker 1: really though, No, I'm saying no, I'm not even being ironical.
Speaker 1: I didn't say you were, Honey. I'm agreeing with you,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying but really though, because sometimes when someone
Speaker 1: says something, you can say but really though, as an affirmative.
Speaker 1: And that's a rule of culture. It's rut of culture.
Speaker 1: What was it? Two? Sometimes when someone says something that
Speaker 1: you can say affirmation. The man is a legend. There's
Speaker 1: not much more to say than that. The when when
Speaker 1: I tell you that he has directed the following films,
Speaker 1: go on West Side Jurassic Park. That's right, honey, Jaws,
Speaker 1: Honey et et heard of her, heard of her? Maybe
Speaker 1: not lately, but if you think for even a second,
Speaker 1: you remember the doll who came down from the alien
Speaker 1: heavens and made her away with a Reese's pieces and
Speaker 1: into the hearts of millions. Lincoln, Lincoln, one of the
Speaker 1: tallest gays, one of the tallest gays. That's a really culture,
Speaker 1: that's really Lincoln on the days I mean between him,
Speaker 1: I really again, this is a lot of directors, but
Speaker 1: I really appreciated director who is as sort of what's
Speaker 1: the word like successful as him, but also uh like
Speaker 1: listal dynamic. They are directors who are prolific but not versatile.
Speaker 1: And I think like the only two I can think
Speaker 1: of right now are like Spielberg and like Angley, and there's,
Speaker 1: of course there's so many others, but I just think like,
Speaker 1: those are two directors who can do it all, and
Speaker 1: I think they like going after things that are very
Speaker 1: different from one another, and I think Spielberg has always
Speaker 1: done that anyway. I also think like even in his
Speaker 1: very main stream fair like in his mainstream efforts, there's
Speaker 1: something real at the at the center. All this stuff
Speaker 1: is mainstream, of course, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it's something real. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By nature of being a Spielberg movie, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: kind of it's gonna come out and people are going
Speaker 1: to be seeing it. But he's not shy about putting
Speaker 1: messages in his movies out No, no, no, right, right,
Speaker 1: I mean you heard it here first, Steven Spielberg is good.
Speaker 1: Culture number seven. Steven is good. He actually is very good.
Speaker 1: And I mean the thing is he he fucking knocked
Speaker 1: this out of the park. What's your experience? I met
Speaker 1: wondering though, because you were a child of Sound of
Speaker 1: Music as we famously got to the root of really
Speaker 1: a year ago when we did the Twelve Days of
Speaker 1: Culture and we did one on when Jaws eight the
Speaker 1: Girls and we sort of had one of our I
Speaker 1: think best discussion, one of the best narratives. One of
Speaker 1: the best narratives was about how I was a as
Speaker 1: child and you were a Sound of Music child. Were
Speaker 1: you also a West Side Story child? I was not
Speaker 1: really a West Side Story child. I was introduced to
Speaker 1: it in school in middle school, um, and I'd always
Speaker 1: known about it. I knew about like I Feel pretty,
Speaker 1: I knew about one year a JETI knew about America, UM,
Speaker 1: but it didn't make sense to me until we like
Speaker 1: studied Shakespeare in middle school. And like our teacher, Mr Bott,
Speaker 1: who hated me, but he was this like hippie man
Speaker 1: who and he like every year he did for the
Speaker 1: eighth grades, he did a sixties unit and it was
Speaker 1: so fun and like every group did like a sixties
Speaker 1: like a project on something in the sixties. In the sixties,
Speaker 1: I got it, kind of got steamrolled into this group
Speaker 1: where Vickory Jones made us do um. Vicky, if you're
Speaker 1: listening high, I think she made us to a Pink Floyd.
Speaker 1: We didn't we did something on Pink Floyd. I have
Speaker 1: no still have no affinity for Pink Floyd whatsoever. Love
Speaker 1: the dolls but were never for me, still aren't for me.
Speaker 1: I don't love the dolls. I don't love them. Everyone
Speaker 1: else got to do, like you could do anything from
Speaker 1: the sixties, So like you could do like like I
Speaker 1: remember someone did like I Love Lucy or just Lucile Ball,
Speaker 1: because I guess I Love Lucy is kind of technically
Speaker 1: fifties and sort of you know, bleeds into that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But like you could do like anything from the Vietnam War.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to be a you know, a boy
Speaker 1: about it, you could do like um, obviously people did
Speaker 1: the Beatles, but like it was so fun anyway, West
Speaker 1: Side Story was part of the Shakespeare Unit and it
Speaker 1: was just like in my mind had been blown. It
Speaker 1: was my first time, like I think it was around
Speaker 1: that time, like I watched Into the Woods, like the
Speaker 1: PBS like recording of it, and the West Side Story.
Speaker 1: I was like figuring out who sawn time was, And um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like really like naturally proselytized
Speaker 1: into like the legend of west Side story. Now, that
Speaker 1: was all fascinating and interesting, but I need to circle
Speaker 1: back to because it's one of the other lost culture
Speaker 1: narratives that I'm sort of yes, yeah, discovering. This teacher's
Speaker 1: name is Mr Dobb, Mr Bot, Mr Bott, And you
Speaker 1: said he hated me. Can I just notice a pattern? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is this? Like did a lot of do you
Speaker 1: do you have it in your head that a lot
Speaker 1: of your teachers hated you? Or were you a little ship?
Speaker 1: Because I was a little ship and I don't like
Speaker 1: at home, I was like kind of boring, kind of
Speaker 1: a weirdo, didn't really like I just wasn't that social.
Speaker 1: And then I would get to school and I would
Speaker 1: like just let it all out, Like I really the
Speaker 1: way the way this kid was able to bisect his
Speaker 1: life compartmentalized, compartmentalize it down down was really crazy. And
Speaker 1: so Mr Bott really disliked me. This was seventh grade, Okay,
Speaker 1: seventh grade was Mr Bob And then eighth grade the
Speaker 1: teacher who hated me, who hated me was Mrs Fox. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is Fox really hated me. She was just like
Speaker 1: young Gorge, a science teacher who was about to get married.
Speaker 1: She was such a good teacher, but I was. She
Speaker 1: kept she kept like a clipboard and each class a
Speaker 1: different student had the clipboard, and if you misbehaved then
Speaker 1: like the person would have to like mark you down,
Speaker 1: like put the next next to your name, and like
Speaker 1: you got many exes. I got so many, but miss
Speaker 1: but Mrs Fox, Miss Fox, and I loved SNL oh.
Speaker 1: I would bring in like clips of SNL tapes and
Speaker 1: we would like laugh and watch them together. I was
Speaker 1: I was such a weird Fox. So you think that
Speaker 1: maybe school and the fact that she was your quote
Speaker 1: unquote teacher maybe got in the way of you and
Speaker 1: miss Fox. Do you know her first name? Amy? Amy
Speaker 1: Fox Amy. I think that Bowen and Amy. There's story there.
Speaker 1: There's a story that we never got to here, which
Speaker 1: is a friendship between Bowen and Amy, and I think
Speaker 1: the tutelage of Mrs Fox and Bowen, I think it
Speaker 1: got in the way. You know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure? What were where were your what were some
Speaker 1: teachers who you bumped? Here's the deal? I used to
Speaker 1: get all the time. So this is weird, but like, um,
Speaker 1: I actually was a rather serious kid when I was
Speaker 1: like in the second, third and fourth grade. I took
Speaker 1: school very seriously. I think subconsciously I knew I had
Speaker 1: something to overcompensate for, which was gay. And so also
Speaker 1: I have a coach dad, and you know, expected a lot,
Speaker 1: and so I had like a good deal of um
Speaker 1: you know, being that kid that raised his hand first
Speaker 1: and being annoying, sort of Rachel Barry disease. If you
Speaker 1: will always looking at everyone's grade, it's kind of being annoying.
Speaker 1: And I remember I had this teacher, Mr d Mr
Speaker 1: Drew Guard, and um, he like I was a huge
Speaker 1: Mets fan and I would come with my Mets jerseys
Speaker 1: all the time, and he was a Yankees fan, and
Speaker 1: we had like that fake animosity. But I loved him
Speaker 1: because he was so much fun and maybe he was
Speaker 1: my He was my general fourth grade four. At the
Speaker 1: end of the year, he said to everyone, he said,
Speaker 1: he said, he gave everyone one different piece of advice.
Speaker 1: He pulled us all out in the hall. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was like, I have something to tell you all.
Speaker 1: It's different. It's personalized. I have one thing I want
Speaker 1: to leave you with that I've experienced working with you
Speaker 1: all year. And so he pulled me out in the
Speaker 1: hallway and he said to me, he was like, you
Speaker 1: need to have more fun. Not everything is so serious.
Speaker 1: He's like, stopped taking everything so seriously, because I can
Speaker 1: tell that you you want to have a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: but there's something that's not letting you and you can
Speaker 1: let yourself have more fun. And I literally took it.
Speaker 1: I was like, he's right, He's right, I have to
Speaker 1: have more fun. I'm fun like it's You've been bone
Speaker 1: vival ever since. And that's when I started to get
Speaker 1: the comment on my progress reports socializing disturbs learning. Socializing
Speaker 1: and disturbs learning. I would get railed by my teachers
Speaker 1: for talking too much, being too fun, I think, and
Speaker 1: they just couldn't take the heat. But they couldn't take
Speaker 1: the heat girl literally sister life hash sister life hash tag.
Speaker 1: They couldn't may they could not take either of our heats.
Speaker 1: I think you and I always think about this. I
Speaker 1: always think about this. Had this hypothetical in the past,
Speaker 1: would we have gotten along in school? I think the
Speaker 1: answer is I I still think it's no. I think
Speaker 1: we would have like been threatened by the other. I
Speaker 1: don't know about threatened. I think we would have had
Speaker 1: an in school rapport that that would have been really fun.
Speaker 1: And then when we wouldn't have hung out outside of school,
Speaker 1: you were you did different things than I did. Like
Speaker 1: I was very much like involved in like a like
Speaker 1: a like an athletic circle, and you did more theater
Speaker 1: and like I feel like probably were a lot more
Speaker 1: interested in like actual things that mattered, like school. And
Speaker 1: didn't you do improv in high school? And didn't? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like I wasn't interested any of
Speaker 1: that because we didn't have that. It was like you
Speaker 1: either do sports or you went home, or you did theater.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't doing that. So I don't think our
Speaker 1: interest would have crossed. But in school, Mama, Mama, I
Speaker 1: think we would have been doing bits and not even
Speaker 1: known what bits were. Oh see, that's so sweed it is.
Speaker 1: You would have been homecoming king and mind what you
Speaker 1: would have beat? You would have knocked me out of
Speaker 1: the spot. See. I don't think that's true because I
Speaker 1: think that we would have different voting bases. I think
Speaker 1: that people that vote for you would not have voted
Speaker 1: for me, and who knows, who knows? I just the
Speaker 1: only the only thing we can do now is have
Speaker 1: run off and you're gonna win. No, No, that's everyone
Speaker 1: tag who you think is homecoming? King out of me
Speaker 1: and Bowen And it's okay. Now, I think I actually
Speaker 1: think a lot of the listeners the more emotionally connected
Speaker 1: to Matt because he makes them. I don't think I
Speaker 1: make people laugh on this show. That's not true, okay,
Speaker 1: And I think I think I'm kind of like the
Speaker 1: audience sarah Ga being like, oh wow, that's interesting. I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm the one to here like making jokes
Speaker 1: like that is foolish. Being magical in my output, Everything
Speaker 1: that comes out of Matt Rodgers's mouth is so beautiful
Speaker 1: and funny. It's it's a crazy skill, crazy talent. First
Speaker 1: of all, that's because you don't even need to try
Speaker 1: so hard to say things that are funny and impactful.
Speaker 1: Sometimes just under your breath, you'll say something brilliant and
Speaker 1: I'll hear it later, like listening back to the pod
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, that was so The impact. The
Speaker 1: impact is always the phrases people remember are always Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers original fact. No, it's okay, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a competition. I'm just saying I'll tell you this though,
Speaker 1: I'm already out on the road for like literally one day.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be meeting all the readers, everyone
Speaker 1: that's coming out to the shows. I'm obsessed. Um, just
Speaker 1: everyone is so nice and so kind, um genuinely, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just I can just tell that it's going to
Speaker 1: be a really fun month getting to meet all you guys.
Speaker 1: And you might even see Bow one of the shows
Speaker 1: if you're a lucky audience. Remember, I can't wait my
Speaker 1: favorite show. Speaking of what we're really talking about each other,
Speaker 1: which is mutual respect. Okay, I guess what I watched
Speaker 1: on a plane? What did you watch? The film Respect,
Speaker 1: which was Rana Franklin. Did you see this? I did not.
Speaker 1: You should see Respect, starring Jennifer Hudson as Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 1: Because here's another thing, Like I think my thing with
Speaker 1: Ariannabos was like, oh, I don't know, like maybe she's
Speaker 1: not right for this part, and then she blew me away.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson, I've seen act many times. I think We've
Speaker 1: all seen Jennifer Hudson act many times, and we all
Speaker 1: have different opinions on her acting. But after you watch Respect,
Speaker 1: you can't really debate Jennifer Hudson's acting anymore. She is
Speaker 1: acting this part all the way down, all the way down.
Speaker 1: I have never I'm one of those people who is
Speaker 1: always always marveling and Jennifer Hudson's acting team J hud
Speaker 1: team J had Oh. I'm so happy wait, because wasn't
Speaker 1: she supposed to sort of wasn't she sort of in
Speaker 1: the conversation last year for for Rewards, Well, this is
Speaker 1: the sort of thing that happens with the quote unquote
Speaker 1: conversation is that movies like come out early in the
Speaker 1: year and it doesn't really matter how good they are
Speaker 1: because they're not coming out at the time of Oscar's consideration.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if this movie comes out like
Speaker 1: this month and everyone sees Jennifer Hudson in this month
Speaker 1: when people are talking about the Oscars, then there's like
Speaker 1: probably no question that she gets nominated. But it's like
Speaker 1: this with the movie In the Heights too. I thought
Speaker 1: In the Heights was amazing. No one's talking about it,
Speaker 1: and like talk about great musical performances like Anthony Ramos
Speaker 1: and in the Heights is unreal and doing things that
Speaker 1: the other girls aren't doing, and um no one's talking
Speaker 1: about him. So I think just timing is so important. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Mr Chew will when his oscar with wicked,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean and and did you see that
Speaker 1: sort of just what I thought would happen happened, which
Speaker 1: was and I think this might have been your Lisa
Speaker 1: Barlow esque plan all along is you wanted to plant
Speaker 1: the seeds of discord about the about the casting of
Speaker 1: um Boon yang as Bach and you wanted to plant
Speaker 1: the seeds so the fans would be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it is really now what's happening? Yes, they do, and
Speaker 1: that what's happening. In the comments of the Instagram, it's
Speaker 1: saying it's tagging John M. Chew and John M Shoot,
Speaker 1: John M shoo, John, I'm Chew, and You've got exactly
Speaker 1: what you wanted, Lisa Barlow. No, I'm not being I
Speaker 1: resent that. I'm so not. I have lost respect for
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow after this week, felt like we have to
Speaker 1: talk about this. It's not like to oh my god,
Speaker 1: the zoo the zoo. Mary, I'm Cosby must be I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we have to exile her. She
Speaker 1: must not crazy, she can't be near anybody. It's crazy
Speaker 1: that just a year later, after the Twelve Days of Christmas,
Speaker 1: the Twelve Days of Culture, we are having to remove
Speaker 1: Mary from this place in the Lost Culture canon because
Speaker 1: she talked about a loose cannon. I mean, you never
Speaker 1: know where the woman's coming from when she so the
Speaker 1: moment when Heather so after she calls Heather chubby, but
Speaker 1: before she says that was before she says that either
Speaker 1: Whitney or Jen reminded her of a thug, like one
Speaker 1: of those quote unquote Mexican Merinicans. Like there was a
Speaker 1: moment that where Mary was like yelling at the group,
Speaker 1: like particularly Lisa or Meredith about like and it just
Speaker 1: it really just made no sense. So it was coming
Speaker 1: like really grammatically mentally made no sense. W she was like,
Speaker 1: she's not gonna tell me what the group thinks. That
Speaker 1: literally I'm quoting her like she did. She I was like,
Speaker 1: this woman is not well and there's something going on
Speaker 1: and it actually like it's it's hit a it's hit
Speaker 1: a peak and like Okay, so Joel can Booster sent
Speaker 1: you and I the mid season trailer and when we're
Speaker 1: all talking about dissecting and being like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is so great and you know what an incredible season.
Speaker 1: I really have for the longest time thought, I think
Speaker 1: it's getting bad with watching Mary now as a viewer,
Speaker 1: because it's not fun for me anymore. And I think
Speaker 1: after this week it's no longer fun for me. See,
Speaker 1: I would counter that by saying I had a very
Speaker 1: fun time watching the episode, and I did laugh out
Speaker 1: loud multiple times, which I can't say for every single
Speaker 1: episode it's been so engrossing lately, it hasn't really been funny, like,
Speaker 1: but in this episode, I truly was laughing out loud
Speaker 1: several times. Um. I find that Whitney is the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm like invested. Whitney is a star for all time.
Speaker 1: Dark Mary is like it's really like capital letters hard
Speaker 1: to watch, like the fucking like thirty rock movie, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's so it's so it's really tough, and she's
Speaker 1: just this like bad person. I'm sorry, and she's like
Speaker 1: bribing people with ship. Well here's the thing. Here's the
Speaker 1: thing about like so for people that that don't know, apologies,
Speaker 1: but basically some other person in like like that's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, attached to their friend group that used to
Speaker 1: be a member of Mary's church who's now passed away,
Speaker 1: said he passed away. Cameron's passed away. Cameron died. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, so Cameron died. So you can't you
Speaker 1: can't um get any information about about his experience. Now
Speaker 1: all we have is what he had said on the show.
Speaker 1: So basically, here's what happened. So this guy used to
Speaker 1: be a member of mary church and left the church
Speaker 1: like and it was it was not good, Like it
Speaker 1: was like he now says that he experienced quote unquote
Speaker 1: religious trauma as a result of being in her church.
Speaker 1: And when they when he brings that to narrative at
Speaker 1: this event, she's really uncomfortable because she's friends with Mary
Speaker 1: and she doesn't know what to think. So this ends
Speaker 1: up getting twisted and turned, and finally it's at the
Speaker 1: point where it's like so much has been said about
Speaker 1: her church and like the way that she runs the
Speaker 1: church or whatever, that it's been called a cult, and
Speaker 1: the fact is like none of us can ever really
Speaker 1: know that that's true unless more people come out and
Speaker 1: say things, and he was the only one who said something.
Speaker 1: And now they're saying that basically his illness that led
Speaker 1: to his passing may have may have resulted in him
Speaker 1: not being clear about what he was saying. So so
Speaker 1: now the narrative is everyone that doesn't want to believe
Speaker 1: that he had quote unquote religious trauma, and Mary's church
Speaker 1: is like, well, remember that Cameron was very ill and
Speaker 1: his ability to remember things and articulate his actual emotions
Speaker 1: and feelings may have been impaired. So this is that's
Speaker 1: spicy now, I mean, that's that's the perspective that like
Speaker 1: Meredith is taking. That's the perspective that Mary is taking.
Speaker 1: So now it's like split the group up into factions.
Speaker 1: Can I say something about Meredith? Yeah, like clearly someone
Speaker 1: who really cares about loyalty and like that's why she's
Speaker 1: siding with Mary. And a lot of this is because,
Speaker 1: according to Meredith, Mary was the only person who like
Speaker 1: didn't spread rumors about her and Seth and season one
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is loyalty that important to you that
Speaker 1: like you? I just it's disappointing because it's like ship
Speaker 1: that like she it's like It's like, you know who
Speaker 1: else like is obsessed with loyalty is Jen? You know
Speaker 1: who else is obsessed with like status in the same
Speaker 1: way as Jen, Like the like Meredith and Jen are
Speaker 1: not that just similar to me, Just like from a
Speaker 1: macro point of view, if someone says that one of
Speaker 1: their top things is loyalty, that is a that is
Speaker 1: a huge red flag because what do you care about loyalty?
Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the thing, if if if you did
Speaker 1: something really wrong, like if I found out that I
Speaker 1: don't know what's something that you what's a crime you
Speaker 1: could possibly commit, I like, committed wire fraud on the elderly,
Speaker 1: like right, Like, if I found out that you were
Speaker 1: praying on people, I would be like, hey, I think
Speaker 1: that this is really wrong. And you know that I
Speaker 1: care for you and love you, but I want you
Speaker 1: to either I want you to own up to this,
Speaker 1: and I also want you to get help, like and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stand here and excuse any part
Speaker 1: of what you've done. And also I wouldn't think that
Speaker 1: you would want me to do that likewise of me,
Speaker 1: Like if I was ever really in trouble, what I
Speaker 1: want you to be there for me. Yeah, but but
Speaker 1: also part of being a friend is I think holding
Speaker 1: people accountable and then helping them see how they can improve.
Speaker 1: But also like if someone is a harmful person, if
Speaker 1: someone is a criminal with and there are victims, like
Speaker 1: at that point, it's it's different. And to see Heather's
Speaker 1: blind loyalty to Jen is really weird. And I know
Speaker 1: she's like the hero of the show, her and Whitney,
Speaker 1: but not one of these people is like morally clean
Speaker 1: slate at this point because the loyalty of it all
Speaker 1: the word that keeps getting thrown around. It's just really
Speaker 1: to like, when someone is in a really tricky situation
Speaker 1: like this, legally speaking, loyalty comes in very at very
Speaker 1: weird times, and it makes me like lose respect. Like
Speaker 1: we're saying like for the people who like bring it up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just I don't know, it's it's
Speaker 1: very I don't know, Like all these women now are
Speaker 1: like except for honestly Whitney. Whitney is the only one
Speaker 1: that I'm still like, would hang you know, I think
Speaker 1: that Lisa a factor in our friendship and swept in
Speaker 1: in order to control me. Wow. Vanessa Bear found dead.
Speaker 1: Branessa Bear is impressive. Whitney Rose sound dead. Whitney is
Speaker 1: cracking me. I love her so much. What a great person.
Speaker 1: There's only one fraud fraud frad I had the fucking chills.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a sugar daddy. So many good quotable,
Speaker 1: so many great She's risen to the top. She's risen
Speaker 1: to the top. I think she's one of the best.
Speaker 1: I mean, between her and Wendy, that's the tie for
Speaker 1: best housewife. Also, it's so funny to me that like
Speaker 1: jen Shaw is like not on this season at all,
Speaker 1: Like it's like we haven't even got I mean, I think,
Speaker 1: like obviously the last few weeks has been her like
Speaker 1: sorting things out. I think based on the trailer, the
Speaker 1: mid season trailer, like she's coming back in full force. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's definitely coming back in full force. And just like
Speaker 1: how they all get in a room together again, I
Speaker 1: don't really make the trip to Veil was absolutely insane. Also,
Speaker 1: just like I can't stress enough. Like then, probably one
Speaker 1: of the funniest scenes of the season was Whitney being like,
Speaker 1: you got you guys got gifts? What did you get?
Speaker 1: And then they all went around and said what designer
Speaker 1: gift they got from Mary who's sitting there, And then
Speaker 1: I have to say the most time and time again
Speaker 1: wearing the most hideous clothes I've ever seen, She's not okay.
Speaker 1: That's another red flag though. When someone calls themselves a fashionista,
Speaker 1: that's a red flag too, And they dressed like that.
Speaker 1: And if you call yourself a fashionista, know you are
Speaker 1: a walking red flag. Don't tell me that loyalty is
Speaker 1: important to you. That makes me feel like you've done
Speaker 1: something wrong. But I have to be And if you
Speaker 1: say you're a fashionista, that is placing a really high bamer.
Speaker 1: It drives me nuts. Like these women who are like
Speaker 1: obsessed with fashion, they show up, we'ren't looking like Sutton.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh yeah, nuts tragic. I mean, we call
Speaker 1: ourselves culture stas and we don't know ship about culture,
Speaker 1: but we know that about ourselves. It's the iron need
Speaker 1: jumped down. He jumped out, the irony jumped out. When
Speaker 1: you do clown ary, the clown comes back to buy,
Speaker 1: clown comes back to bite. I'm waving my pencil and
Speaker 1: I I thought I remember that line from Charms School Monique,
Speaker 1: thank you the first time in a long time, and
Speaker 1: I laughed and laughed at how perfect it is perfect television.
Speaker 1: It's simply perfect. Pretty much everything that Monique did on
Speaker 1: that season was amazing, although you know, it is like
Speaker 1: she really was cashing a check, of course, But I
Speaker 1: miss that. I miss that era of reality TV that
Speaker 1: ended so abruptly after that Guy and Megan Wants a
Speaker 1: Millionaire was found out to have killed someone and then
Speaker 1: they couldn't do any more of those shows, and you
Speaker 1: didn't like And I think that really was like VH one,
Speaker 1: like won the Lottery with those shows, like it just
Speaker 1: it was it became there, like you know, the Challenge
Speaker 1: where like I love money became like the Challenge, you know,
Speaker 1: and like I just I really missed that era. I
Speaker 1: think the problem with that era was that it was
Speaker 1: very exploited and pretty much people you met icons. I mean,
Speaker 1: it birthed Tiffany New York Pollard. Like for that, we
Speaker 1: have to give it its props, but I think that unfortunately,
Speaker 1: what they were not doing was checking to see if
Speaker 1: these people were actually batshit insane. Yeah, and now I'm
Speaker 1: thinking when you cast reality TV now, like you are
Speaker 1: looking for insane people like Mary is such a controversial
Speaker 1: topic and I think the Bravo world and like the
Speaker 1: in like the universe of it all, because you're like,
Speaker 1: is it worth it? Like I don't know what are
Speaker 1: you gonna say? No, I was just gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: I think they're looking for people who are crazy without
Speaker 1: being a danger. Because that's the thing is I think
Speaker 1: that in that old era, like some of those people,
Speaker 1: if they looked even a little bit further, they would say, oh,
Speaker 1: this person is potentially a danger. Whereas Mary I don't
Speaker 1: think is a danger. I don't know, I think you
Speaker 1: think she might be a danger? Could stuff aside. I
Speaker 1: just think she's a dangerous person to have on television
Speaker 1: because can you unpack this? Because she's like a virulent racist,
Speaker 1: Like it's very clear now, Like it's like I don't
Speaker 1: want that, Like I don't want this woman isn't fun
Speaker 1: to me anymore. And she's like calling you how they're
Speaker 1: like chubby and all this ship and I'm I didn't
Speaker 1: like that. I just I really didn't like that. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to sound like then skinned it's but it's not
Speaker 1: even that. It's just that like I am not enjoying
Speaker 1: this person. And my thing with housewives is is it helps.
Speaker 1: It goes such a long way when I enjoy the people.
Speaker 1: That's my Potomac is my favorite. Even though I don't
Speaker 1: like some of them. I mostly like all of them,
Speaker 1: but they're the worst with body shaming and they're I mean,
Speaker 1: we stand Candice, but she's certainly said some says some
Speaker 1: on cool things. But then like, I don't know, Cannice
Speaker 1: is very complex. Um Canis also was roundly humiliated on
Speaker 1: this reunion in a way that might be karmic, who
Speaker 1: knows like like there are there are things that like
Speaker 1: there are come uppances that are just big and small enough.
Speaker 1: The stakes aren't too high on Potomac solid feels like
Speaker 1: the sticks are very high. Yeah, and I know you
Speaker 1: love it. I love it too, but I just think,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like there's something about Salt like
Speaker 1: this season, like it's like it's no longer like that
Speaker 1: enjoyable to me. Jen show stuff aside, Jenny is a
Speaker 1: full flop. I'm so sorry Jenny's Jenny just once again,
Speaker 1: like there was a moment where, like I think it
Speaker 1: was after they had a conversation in Meredith is talking
Speaker 1: to Jenny about something and Jenny was like, just like
Speaker 1: agreed with her in a way that was so uninteresting,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I think I said out loud.
Speaker 1: I was like Jenny once again not adding anything meaningful
Speaker 1: to the conversation, like when she like ever like chimed
Speaker 1: in and and and said something that where You're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, never not one damn show. I think in
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, when she was initially telling
Speaker 1: her story about how she came to America and also like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, incredible life story, I just think she's mad.
Speaker 1: I don't care for her on television, and I think
Speaker 1: that that's that's definitely true. I would say that she
Speaker 1: does not offer anything in the I mean we saw
Speaker 1: like there's in that Coming Attractions where she like slams
Speaker 1: the glass on the ground in front of Mary. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm also over them breaking things like I don't know,
Speaker 1: Jen did that last season and it was breathed of
Speaker 1: like staging and on desperation and I'm just like, nikes, desperado,
Speaker 1: why don't you come to your sins? Have you watched
Speaker 1: Tick Tick Boom yet? Yeah? Haven't. I'm so bad, I
Speaker 1: gotta watch it. I'm really behind on culture. I only
Speaker 1: say because this is a song called Come to Your
Speaker 1: Senses and tick tick boom um, and it's really a
Speaker 1: moment and it's a duet between Vanessa Hudgens and Alexander
Speaker 1: Ship And can I just say, I think I'm way
Speaker 1: back on board the Hudge train because I just saw
Speaker 1: her architectural digest and she's got a beautiful home. I
Speaker 1: thought she was amazing and tick tick boom and I'm
Speaker 1: like obsessed with Vanessa Hudgens. I mean, I get it,
Speaker 1: and like, I think, you know, what I think has
Speaker 1: aged very well. Unfortunately, and this is not for me
Speaker 1: to say, but I believe that this has aged well.
Speaker 1: Is it just in terms of like an iconic momently
Speaker 1: COVID But you know, I mean, maybe I shouldn't be
Speaker 1: doing this is amazing, I think, I mean, people are
Speaker 1: gonna die die like notable. She's like clearly like wine drunk,
Speaker 1: like on her instant life. And I thought you were
Speaker 1: going to say when you hit that, she blam, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's like so intromoking right now. It's it's
Speaker 1: that was important because it was able to like everyone
Speaker 1: was able to zero in on like the type of
Speaker 1: person she represented in that moment, which was like a
Speaker 1: siss woman straight let's say who Like it was just
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know, trying on these different
Speaker 1: terms for size and like and she blam is like
Speaker 1: not an inter that is that is what it is.
Speaker 1: And she's got a dance background, extensive dance background. Again,
Speaker 1: she's like a musical theater machine. That's why she gets
Speaker 1: cast and all this stuff. Like I just think, I
Speaker 1: just think she's I've always thought she's great. I think
Speaker 1: she's fun, and I've also heard that she's fun. Like
Speaker 1: I don't know her, but I know some people that
Speaker 1: are friends with her, and apparently she's like a very
Speaker 1: very very good vibe. You have a song called Sneaker Night.
Speaker 1: How people don't talk about enough good vibe? Yeah, go no,
Speaker 1: no no, I'm saying, like people don't talk about sneaker
Speaker 1: Night or sacer Night is like one of the ultimate
Speaker 1: getting ready songs. Sneaker Knight is. It's a floor filler,
Speaker 1: it's a anthem, it's a pregame classic, it's a pregame classic.
Speaker 1: It's forget about free game, it's it's it's during the game.
Speaker 1: You know how many times like out in l A,
Speaker 1: like we've put on sneaker Night, just to like make
Speaker 1: sure that everyone can get on the same page. And
Speaker 1: people fucking calibrate to that ship. They're like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a sneaker night night, got it. I mean, listen, I've
Speaker 1: been to parties that were sneaker night themed. Okay, I've
Speaker 1: seen what they're not. What they haven't done, which they
Speaker 1: must do, is there must be a sneaker night lip
Speaker 1: sync on drags. Sneaker Knight. It's one of the most
Speaker 1: famous songs that no one talks about. They were singing
Speaker 1: it at weddings, a funeral, funerals, graduations, at funerals. Children
Speaker 1: were singing singing this song a sneak er night even
Speaker 1: from the beginning, put to sneakers own, but going dancing
Speaker 1: all night long, just from the very beginning, like the
Speaker 1: sort of breakdown that starts it. I'm like, whatever that is,
Speaker 1: I got some wet to be Wow, it's so good.
Speaker 1: And Vanessa Hudgens was the artist. Yeah she is. People
Speaker 1: forget she is an artist. She is lasted. Like I
Speaker 1: remember I was. I was watching the Architectural Digest and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this house is beautiful. How she afford this?
Speaker 1: And then I remember she's booked for decades since like
Speaker 1: two thousand seven or whatever. High school is literally, oh
Speaker 1: my God, God bless her. And we were rooting for
Speaker 1: her always well and no one ever ever forgets that
Speaker 1: her father passed away. Days for Greece Live. I think
Speaker 1: the day before, the day before, I mean the sane
Speaker 1: and she truly um. I also think like just to
Speaker 1: like bring it back, like she's so good in tiktick
Speaker 1: Boom and there's a there's a song called Therapy that
Speaker 1: she does with Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield is another one.
Speaker 1: He's so good, like another Drag Race guest and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just great. He had never sang before Tick Tick Boom.
Speaker 1: And this is what I want you to see it
Speaker 1: because like I would love to know what you think
Speaker 1: because his voice sounds so good and for me, he's
Speaker 1: my favorite UM male performance of the year. He was
Speaker 1: also great in the Eyes of Timmy Fay, which I saw.
Speaker 1: Did you see Eyes of Timmy? Oh see that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's camp. Okay, Yeah, great good camp. I loved it.
Speaker 1: We love Searchlight Pictures too. Yes, our distributor, our distributor
Speaker 1: for fire and we we actually know what let's let's
Speaker 1: try to talk about the movie as minimally as possible before. Well,
Speaker 1: have you seen it? I've not seen it, Okay, I
Speaker 1: I am, I have seen. I honestly think it's it's
Speaker 1: not fair for us to talk about it. No. I
Speaker 1: think people should just like think of it to judge
Speaker 1: it for themselves, you know. No, that being said, I
Speaker 1: would like to have some people from it on the pod,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. We're gonna have people
Speaker 1: from it on the pod for sure, but I just think, like,
Speaker 1: let's I don't want to press my somb on the
Speaker 1: scale too much like the release and like what what
Speaker 1: you know, what people say about it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to really have anything to do with that. No. I
Speaker 1: think that we learned from shooting it. It's best to
Speaker 1: try to remove ourselves from it. Yes, as much as possible. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's coming and one of us have seen it,
Speaker 1: and our our reviews are under embargo at this time. Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go. So we are thinking
Speaker 1: about making this a little bit of a shorter episode
Speaker 1: because I am trying to not talk super super much.
Speaker 1: So what do you think both should we had to?
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, let's do it. I love
Speaker 1: it all right. This is our one minute segment where
Speaker 1: we take sixty seconds, which is a minute to rant
Speaker 1: and rail about something in culture that is grinding our
Speaker 1: g E A R S. And I spell that like
Speaker 1: sort of like you would have Gwen Stefani spall the
Speaker 1: word bananas. Um, sort of join that now here with
Speaker 1: the word gears. Alright, So Bowen Yang is gonna go
Speaker 1: first this week. Um, but you have a topic? Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you ready to go? I'm ready? All right? This
Speaker 1: is Boen Yanks. I don't think so, honey. His time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Nike, will it
Speaker 1: tastes like ship and you don't work most of the time,
Speaker 1: slop and listen, you went Coca Cola, So get out
Speaker 1: of here with that cherry flavored shit. That's Cherry's reserved
Speaker 1: for icons only. Okay, Nike, will you're basted? You come
Speaker 1: in the little styrup and then we got to take
Speaker 1: a shot of you and then hope for the best,
Speaker 1: give it up to God. And then you wake up
Speaker 1: the next morning, how many times happen to you? And
Speaker 1: you go, well, that did nothing? I taste I swallowed
Speaker 1: that disgusting a set of menefin syrup for nothing, didn't I.
Speaker 1: So let's just I think we get Nike Will out
Speaker 1: of the conversation. Niquill is no longer canon in terms
Speaker 1: of medicine. Niquil is just is basically homeopathic medicine at
Speaker 1: this point. I don't care put it in with the
Speaker 1: flowers and the florals and the herbal suff It's just
Speaker 1: as ineffective, if not more, Nike Will. You're done and
Speaker 1: that's one minute ni quill more like I will find
Speaker 1: something else. Girl just came up with that. Yeah, right
Speaker 1: on the stuff, James Queen. You know what, I actually
Speaker 1: I think it always succeeds in making me want to
Speaker 1: go to sleep, which I always appreciate when I'm not
Speaker 1: feeling well at night, because it does. It definitely does
Speaker 1: put me to sleep. Is it decongesting me? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what happens doing any
Speaker 1: of what it's what it says on the label, Well
Speaker 1: day quills worse. I just think Vix really needs to restructure,
Speaker 1: have the layoffs. Mama, layoff the people who like really
Speaker 1: scammed us and condo us with this nif Will stuff
Speaker 1: because I bet they're still around. I bet they were
Speaker 1: back there during the thirties or forties or whatever the
Speaker 1: funk it was invented. We need new blooded Vix, We
Speaker 1: need all new icons. Okay, and a Niche needs to
Speaker 1: get replaced. I want Vix to come out with a
Speaker 1: new line of everything. Did the old typeface give us
Speaker 1: like a bold seraph font? Do you ever put that
Speaker 1: vix cream on? Not not cream vapor the Yeah, the
Speaker 1: vapor rub that actually is amazing sometimes sometimes, But they
Speaker 1: can't be leaning on that too much. That can't be
Speaker 1: their only thing. They own a Nike Will, which they do.
Speaker 1: I need to see them really make their product flyne consistent,
Speaker 1: and that's not what's been happening. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: Vix was like sort of this Rupert Murdoch type. I
Speaker 1: want to see the empire of of the sort of um,
Speaker 1: you know, vapor rub and decongested industry. There's a succession narrative.
Speaker 1: They're also can I say, yeah, really, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: The concept? No, no, no, no, I know what you
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say where you want me to say.
Speaker 1: I was just going to bring up family businesses in general.
Speaker 1: Being like, why are we why are we still doing that?
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Um, you want to talk about succession,
Speaker 1: I just want to say it's one of the most
Speaker 1: boring shows I've ever seen in my entire life, and
Speaker 1: I know I have to give it another try. And
Speaker 1: I also know that everybody just like veered off the
Speaker 1: road through their phones, et cetera. It's not that I
Speaker 1: stopped watching it. That I started the first season and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, so I'm supposed to spend first
Speaker 1: season takes a long time, and first season doesn't. It's
Speaker 1: one of those shows and I know we're so past
Speaker 1: this now as the culture, but it's one of those
Speaker 1: shows that really picks up by the finale of season one,
Speaker 1: and then season two is I think perfect television. Season
Speaker 1: two is so good, and I actually am controversially gonna
Speaker 1: say that this season is not doing it for me,
Speaker 1: and the same I mean, I think everyone is saying
Speaker 1: that this season is not doing it for them, because
Speaker 1: essentially they're just regurgitating plot lines that they always have
Speaker 1: and that feels like, well, because too, you had a
Speaker 1: Holly Hunter and Terry Jones for a few episode, but
Speaker 1: Holly Hunter really like makes you watch there's something about her.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, Holly is one of the greats. Holly
Speaker 1: is one of the greats. But like, season two is
Speaker 1: really great to v and I highly I think you
Speaker 1: should just stick it out until two and then you're
Speaker 1: and then you'll fall even more in love with Sarah
Speaker 1: Snooke and with Kiaren and with them. I mean, I'll say, Kieren,
Speaker 1: Kieren fucking rocks. And I I did watch the premiere
Speaker 1: of this third season and I thought, to me, he
Speaker 1: really stood out. He's amazing and in the best way.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, there was a really funny Gawker
Speaker 1: wrote this funny reaction to this profile in the New
Speaker 1: Yorker on Jeremy Strong. So I read the New Yorker
Speaker 1: profile today and that's all. We'll just leave it at that,
Speaker 1: because I think it's very interesting. Um let's just say,
Speaker 1: if you want to read about my least favorite type
Speaker 1: of person, then check out the New Yorker profile on
Speaker 1: Jeremy Strong, who sounds absolutely insufferable Jared Letto level No,
Speaker 1: not quite, but in that sort of vein where it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly everyone who works with him is like
Speaker 1: constantly bombarded by his method tactics, and he won't rehearse
Speaker 1: with anyone. He's cold to people on set because he
Speaker 1: won't go in the makeup trailer at the same time
Speaker 1: as anyone else. He won't go in the makeup trailers
Speaker 1: at times anyone probably someone who is costing hours and
Speaker 1: also lots of dollars to to cut around him, just
Speaker 1: from a production standpoint, and that, to me, that type
Speaker 1: of narcissist, straight male actor that um does things like that,
Speaker 1: I think is a Mary Cosby level harmful. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're saying on this episode that Mary
Speaker 1: Cosby is harmful, that I'm saying, No, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: she's like not fun to watch anymore, which is everything
Speaker 1: on Ryan on a show like Caswaves get I get that.
Speaker 1: I'm still having fun watching her, but I definitely don't
Speaker 1: like the things. So she said in this episode that
Speaker 1: we're you know, body shaming and like definitely racist. I mean,
Speaker 1: and then is even hearing that sentence come out of
Speaker 1: my mouth, It's like, yeah, that's pretty tough, but yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way around it, like and there's like thin
Speaker 1: and like we can't sweep that under the rug the
Speaker 1: same way that I think a lot of people swept
Speaker 1: into the rug her like crazy anti black ship that
Speaker 1: she's like said like on the show, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what is why are we still like hooked on this woman?
Speaker 1: Like collectively, she certainly likes to throw around the thing
Speaker 1: of calling people hoodlum and thugs and that's obviously coded language,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean she definitely there's nothing for
Speaker 1: her to hide behind on this last episode because she
Speaker 1: literally called how they're chubby and then said but you
Speaker 1: can't miss and Jen was who Jen? Who's the criminal?
Speaker 1: Was quote unquote like we can't you You of all
Speaker 1: people cannot be like team Whitney and be like but
Speaker 1: I still like watching maryor it's not that I like
Speaker 1: watching Mary. I think that she's still a valid part
Speaker 1: of the narrative and I'm really this is my thing
Speaker 1: is It's like, if this is the way that the
Speaker 1: season is unfolding, then I can't wait for the reunion
Speaker 1: to watch them watch ask her, Hey, what's up with
Speaker 1: all this language that you're using? What's what's up with it?
Speaker 1: Because it is racist and like it it is like
Speaker 1: fat full, begainn it is all these things. And then
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. It's getting it's getting too remote
Speaker 1: for me, is all I'm saying. Yep, I hear that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's it one. I have one now yet. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers, and I don't think so honey. As
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so honey. Room service
Speaker 1: because you take three hours to get to any hotel.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what hotel you're staying at. If you're staying
Speaker 1: at a five star hotel, if you're staying at a
Speaker 1: one star hotel or even a motel that would have
Speaker 1: room service, it doesn't really matter what how much money
Speaker 1: you spent, didn't spend, how close you are to the kitchen, whatever.
Speaker 1: The room service takes forever, and I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: It's also famously expensive hidden fees, the fact that they
Speaker 1: can get away with charging nineteen dollars for a simple
Speaker 1: cheeseburger even without fries. I don't think so honey. Room
Speaker 1: service is the only one doing it as badly as
Speaker 1: they do with these crooks, criminals. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: where I am right now, but I'm in a what
Speaker 1: is a lovely hotel, and I found out that their
Speaker 1: room services through a third party, which of course adds
Speaker 1: room services part of a third party. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: it's already I don't think so honey. Enough when it's
Speaker 1: in the hotel, all I want is a goddamn chicken
Speaker 1: sandwich with fries. It shouldn't take an hour and thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: and that's what it takes. And I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I mean at this point, room
Speaker 1: services only it for breakfast and then the rest of
Speaker 1: it you just order like a fucking Uber Eats or
Speaker 1: Postmates or whatever the hell your delivery person generously. But
Speaker 1: room service has really flopped, especially since the pandemic and
Speaker 1: in those early stages when the hotels wouldn't would straight
Speaker 1: up just not do it. When it's like okay, you
Speaker 1: don't get it through surfaces, it's fine, like let's just
Speaker 1: make me the food please. You know, As someone who
Speaker 1: was in the service industry for a very long time,
Speaker 1: I'm usually someone who gives beyond the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: Like even if a server is like absolutely pathetic, if
Speaker 1: there's things missing from my order, I'll still tip. But
Speaker 1: it's like really hard when the reason that you're ordering
Speaker 1: room services, so you don't have to like leave your room,
Speaker 1: like you know you need something at a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time, like you're trying to enjoy your experience, and
Speaker 1: then it just becomes a stressor because it takes forever, forever.
Speaker 1: I hate having to call and chuck in on things.
Speaker 1: I feel so annoying again because of my time in
Speaker 1: the service industry that I give the benefit of the out,
Speaker 1: but I can no longer give the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt for some of these room service experiences. It's like,
Speaker 1: come on, now, come on now, anyways, unacceptable behavior. Okay, well, um,
Speaker 1: I'm glad we checked in. This is a short one
Speaker 1: and still an hour. Still still we can say the
Speaker 1: length of a podcast. Yes, and I will say, and
Speaker 1: it's okay that we have these episodes where we're just
Speaker 1: checking in because we're both wet, busy, a little bit busy.
Speaker 1: And also the thing is, when a guest comes on,
Speaker 1: we want to be able to give the guests such
Speaker 1: an exact time and energy and a focus, and so
Speaker 1: the thing is like it's we're trying to be considerate
Speaker 1: of everyone's time, and you gotta stay focused on you
Speaker 1: right now because you're literally touring the country singing and um,
Speaker 1: I have to I don't know, go to the motions
Speaker 1: at my job. So, by the way, congrats on your
Speaker 1: Critics Choice Award nomination. Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And I did want to say big up to Q Force,
Speaker 1: who was nominated for Best Adminated Series, Big up to
Speaker 1: four Way to Go Gabe. Yeah, and all the shows
Speaker 1: I worked on were nominated, so we love amazing Other Two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Best Comedy Series. Okay, I was involved in that as well.
Speaker 1: Don't forget. And because that's really congratulations to you. Congratulations
Speaker 1: to both of us on the Other Two second season.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was our achievement. It was our achievement.
Speaker 1: Al right. Well, we closed every episode with the song
Speaker 1: yes we do Why I do up? Every time? You
Speaker 1: unneed just to be fine.