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Speaker 1: interested in like actual things that mattered, like school. And

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Speaker 1: didn't you do improv in high school? And didn't? Yes,

427
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like I wasn't interested any of

428
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: that because we didn't have that. It was like you

429
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: either do sports or you went home, or you did theater.

430
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: But I wasn't doing that. So I don't think our

431
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: interest would have crossed. But in school, Mama, Mama, I

432
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: think we would have been doing bits and not even

433
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: known what bits were. Oh see, that's so sweed it is.

434
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Speaker 1: You would have been homecoming king and mind what you

435
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: would have beat? You would have knocked me out of

436
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: the spot. See. I don't think that's true because I

437
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: think that we would have different voting bases. I think

438
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: that people that vote for you would not have voted

439
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: for me, and who knows, who knows? I just the

440
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: only the only thing we can do now is have

441
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: run off and you're gonna win. No, No, that's everyone

442
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: tag who you think is homecoming? King out of me

443
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: and Bowen And it's okay. Now, I think I actually

444
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: think a lot of the listeners the more emotionally connected

445
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: to Matt because he makes them. I don't think I

446
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: make people laugh on this show. That's not true, okay,

447
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: And I think I think I'm kind of like the

448
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: audience sarah Ga being like, oh wow, that's interesting. I

449
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: don't think I'm the one to here like making jokes

450
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: like that is foolish. Being magical in my output, Everything

451
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: that comes out of Matt Rodgers's mouth is so beautiful

452
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: and funny. It's it's a crazy skill, crazy talent. First

453
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: of all, that's because you don't even need to try

454
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: so hard to say things that are funny and impactful.

455
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes just under your breath, you'll say something brilliant and

456
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: I'll hear it later, like listening back to the pod

457
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, that was so The impact. The

458
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: impact is always the phrases people remember are always Matt

459
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 1: Rodgers original fact. No, it's okay, I don't think it's

460
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: a competition. I'm just saying I'll tell you this though,

461
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm already out on the road for like literally one day.

462
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be meeting all the readers, everyone

463
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: that's coming out to the shows. I'm obsessed. Um, just

464
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: everyone is so nice and so kind, um genuinely, Like,

465
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: it's just I can just tell that it's going to

466
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: be a really fun month getting to meet all you guys.

467
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: And you might even see Bow one of the shows

468
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: if you're a lucky audience. Remember, I can't wait my

469
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: favorite show. Speaking of what we're really talking about each other,

470
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: which is mutual respect. Okay, I guess what I watched

471
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: on a plane? What did you watch? The film Respect,

472
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: which was Rana Franklin. Did you see this? I did not.

473
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: You should see Respect, starring Jennifer Hudson as Aretha Franklin.

474
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: Because here's another thing, Like I think my thing with

475
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: Ariannabos was like, oh, I don't know, like maybe she's

476
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: not right for this part, and then she blew me away.

477
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson, I've seen act many times. I think We've

478
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: all seen Jennifer Hudson act many times, and we all

479
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: have different opinions on her acting. But after you watch Respect,

480
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: you can't really debate Jennifer Hudson's acting anymore. She is

481
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: acting this part all the way down, all the way down.

482
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: I have never I'm one of those people who is

483
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: always always marveling and Jennifer Hudson's acting team J hud

484
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: team J had Oh. I'm so happy wait, because wasn't

485
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: she supposed to sort of wasn't she sort of in

486
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: the conversation last year for for Rewards, Well, this is

487
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: the sort of thing that happens with the quote unquote

488
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: conversation is that movies like come out early in the

489
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: year and it doesn't really matter how good they are

490
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: because they're not coming out at the time of Oscar's consideration.

491
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if this movie comes out like

492
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: this month and everyone sees Jennifer Hudson in this month

493
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: when people are talking about the Oscars, then there's like

494
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: probably no question that she gets nominated. But it's like

495
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: this with the movie In the Heights too. I thought

496
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: In the Heights was amazing. No one's talking about it,

497
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: and like talk about great musical performances like Anthony Ramos

498
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: and in the Heights is unreal and doing things that

499
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: the other girls aren't doing, and um no one's talking

500
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: about him. So I think just timing is so important. Yeah,

501
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: I mean Mr Chew will when his oscar with wicked,

502
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean and and did you see that

503
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: sort of just what I thought would happen happened, which

504
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: was and I think this might have been your Lisa

505
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: Barlow esque plan all along is you wanted to plant

506
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: the seeds of discord about the about the casting of

507
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: um Boon yang as Bach and you wanted to plant

508
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: the seeds so the fans would be like, oh my god,

509
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: it is really now what's happening? Yes, they do, and

510
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: that what's happening. In the comments of the Instagram, it's

511
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: saying it's tagging John M. Chew and John M Shoot,

512
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: John M shoo, John, I'm Chew, and You've got exactly

513
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: what you wanted, Lisa Barlow. No, I'm not being I

514
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: resent that. I'm so not. I have lost respect for

515
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow after this week, felt like we have to

516
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: talk about this. It's not like to oh my god,

517
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: the zoo the zoo. Mary, I'm Cosby must be I mean,

518
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we have to exile her. She

519
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: must not crazy, she can't be near anybody. It's crazy

520
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: that just a year later, after the Twelve Days of Christmas,

521
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: the Twelve Days of Culture, we are having to remove

522
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: Mary from this place in the Lost Culture canon because

523
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: she talked about a loose cannon. I mean, you never

524
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: know where the woman's coming from when she so the

525
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: moment when Heather so after she calls Heather chubby, but

526
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: before she says that was before she says that either

527
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: Whitney or Jen reminded her of a thug, like one

528
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: of those quote unquote Mexican Merinicans. Like there was a

529
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: moment that where Mary was like yelling at the group,

530
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: like particularly Lisa or Meredith about like and it just

531
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: it really just made no sense. So it was coming

532
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: like really grammatically mentally made no sense. W she was like,

533
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: she's not gonna tell me what the group thinks. That

534
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: literally I'm quoting her like she did. She I was like,

535
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: this woman is not well and there's something going on

536
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: and it actually like it's it's hit a it's hit

537
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: a peak and like Okay, so Joel can Booster sent

538
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: you and I the mid season trailer and when we're

539
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: all talking about dissecting and being like, oh my god,

540
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: this is so great and you know what an incredible season.

541
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I really have for the longest time thought, I think

542
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: it's getting bad with watching Mary now as a viewer,

543
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: because it's not fun for me anymore. And I think

544
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: after this week it's no longer fun for me. See,

545
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: I would counter that by saying I had a very

546
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: fun time watching the episode, and I did laugh out

547
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: loud multiple times, which I can't say for every single

548
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: episode it's been so engrossing lately, it hasn't really been funny, like,

549
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: but in this episode, I truly was laughing out loud

550
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: several times. Um. I find that Whitney is the reason

551
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: why I'm like invested. Whitney is a star for all time.

552
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: Dark Mary is like it's really like capital letters hard

553
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: to watch, like the fucking like thirty rock movie, Like

554
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: it's it's so it's so it's really tough, and she's

555
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: just this like bad person. I'm sorry, and she's like

556
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: bribing people with ship. Well here's the thing. Here's the

557
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: thing about like so for people that that don't know, apologies,

558
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: but basically some other person in like like that's like, uh,

559
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, attached to their friend group that used to

560
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: be a member of Mary's church who's now passed away,

561
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: said he passed away. Cameron's passed away. Cameron died. Oh

562
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, so Cameron died. So you can't you

563
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: can't um get any information about about his experience. Now

564
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: all we have is what he had said on the show.

565
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: So basically, here's what happened. So this guy used to

566
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: be a member of mary church and left the church

567
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: like and it was it was not good, Like it

568
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: was like he now says that he experienced quote unquote

569
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: religious trauma as a result of being in her church.

570
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: And when they when he brings that to narrative at

571
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: this event, she's really uncomfortable because she's friends with Mary

572
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: and she doesn't know what to think. So this ends

573
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: up getting twisted and turned, and finally it's at the

574
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: point where it's like so much has been said about

575
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: her church and like the way that she runs the

576
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: church or whatever, that it's been called a cult, and

577
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: the fact is like none of us can ever really

578
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: know that that's true unless more people come out and

579
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: say things, and he was the only one who said something.

580
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: And now they're saying that basically his illness that led

581
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: to his passing may have may have resulted in him

582
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: not being clear about what he was saying. So so

583
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: now the narrative is everyone that doesn't want to believe

584
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: that he had quote unquote religious trauma, and Mary's church

585
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: is like, well, remember that Cameron was very ill and

586
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: his ability to remember things and articulate his actual emotions

587
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: and feelings may have been impaired. So this is that's

588
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: spicy now, I mean, that's that's the perspective that like

589
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Meredith is taking. That's the perspective that Mary is taking.

590
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: So now it's like split the group up into factions.

591
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: Can I say something about Meredith? Yeah, like clearly someone

592
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: who really cares about loyalty and like that's why she's

593
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: siding with Mary. And a lot of this is because,

594
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: according to Meredith, Mary was the only person who like

595
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: didn't spread rumors about her and Seth and season one

596
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is loyalty that important to you that

597
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: like you? I just it's disappointing because it's like ship

598
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: that like she it's like It's like, you know who

599
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: else like is obsessed with loyalty is Jen? You know

600
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: who else is obsessed with like status in the same

601
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: way as Jen, Like the like Meredith and Jen are

602
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: not that just similar to me, Just like from a

603
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: macro point of view, if someone says that one of

604
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: their top things is loyalty, that is a that is

605
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: a huge red flag because what do you care about loyalty?

606
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the thing, if if if you did

607
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: something really wrong, like if I found out that I

608
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: don't know what's something that you what's a crime you

609
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: could possibly commit, I like, committed wire fraud on the elderly,

610
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: like right, Like, if I found out that you were

611
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: praying on people, I would be like, hey, I think

612
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: that this is really wrong. And you know that I

613
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: care for you and love you, but I want you

614
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: to either I want you to own up to this,

615
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: and I also want you to get help, like and

616
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stand here and excuse any part

617
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: of what you've done. And also I wouldn't think that

618
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: you would want me to do that likewise of me,

619
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Like if I was ever really in trouble, what I

620
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: want you to be there for me. Yeah, but but

621
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: also part of being a friend is I think holding

622
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: people accountable and then helping them see how they can improve.

623
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: But also like if someone is a harmful person, if

624
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: someone is a criminal with and there are victims, like

625
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: at that point, it's it's different. And to see Heather's

626
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: blind loyalty to Jen is really weird. And I know

627
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: she's like the hero of the show, her and Whitney,

628
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: but not one of these people is like morally clean

629
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: slate at this point because the loyalty of it all

630
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: the word that keeps getting thrown around. It's just really

631
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: to like, when someone is in a really tricky situation

632
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: like this, legally speaking, loyalty comes in very at very

633
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: weird times, and it makes me like lose respect. Like

634
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: we're saying like for the people who like bring it up,

635
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just I don't know, it's it's

636
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: very I don't know, Like all these women now are

637
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: like except for honestly Whitney. Whitney is the only one

638
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: that I'm still like, would hang you know, I think

639
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: that Lisa a factor in our friendship and swept in

640
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: in order to control me. Wow. Vanessa Bear found dead.

641
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: Branessa Bear is impressive. Whitney Rose sound dead. Whitney is

642
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: cracking me. I love her so much. What a great person.

643
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: There's only one fraud fraud frad I had the fucking chills.

644
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a sugar daddy. So many good quotable,

645
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: so many great She's risen to the top. She's risen

646
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: to the top. I think she's one of the best.

647
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, between her and Wendy, that's the tie for

648
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: best housewife. Also, it's so funny to me that like

649
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: jen Shaw is like not on this season at all,

650
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Like it's like we haven't even got I mean, I think,

651
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: like obviously the last few weeks has been her like

652
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: sorting things out. I think based on the trailer, the

653
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: mid season trailer, like she's coming back in full force. Yeah, yeah,

654
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: she's definitely coming back in full force. And just like

655
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: how they all get in a room together again, I

656
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: don't really make the trip to Veil was absolutely insane. Also,

657
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: just like I can't stress enough. Like then, probably one

658
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: of the funniest scenes of the season was Whitney being like,

659
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: you got you guys got gifts? What did you get?

660
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: And then they all went around and said what designer

661
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: gift they got from Mary who's sitting there, And then

662
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: I have to say the most time and time again

663
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: wearing the most hideous clothes I've ever seen, She's not okay.

664
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: That's another red flag though. When someone calls themselves a fashionista,

665
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: that's a red flag too, And they dressed like that.

666
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: And if you call yourself a fashionista, know you are

667
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: a walking red flag. Don't tell me that loyalty is

668
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: important to you. That makes me feel like you've done

669
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: something wrong. But I have to be And if you

670
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: say you're a fashionista, that is placing a really high bamer.

671
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: It drives me nuts. Like these women who are like

672
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: obsessed with fashion, they show up, we'ren't looking like Sutton.

673
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh yeah, nuts tragic. I mean, we call

674
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: ourselves culture stas and we don't know ship about culture,

675
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: but we know that about ourselves. It's the iron need

676
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: jumped down. He jumped out, the irony jumped out. When

677
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: you do clown ary, the clown comes back to buy,

678
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: clown comes back to bite. I'm waving my pencil and

679
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: I I thought I remember that line from Charms School Monique,

680
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: thank you the first time in a long time, and

681
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I laughed and laughed at how perfect it is perfect television.

682
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: It's simply perfect. Pretty much everything that Monique did on

683
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: that season was amazing, although you know, it is like

684
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: she really was cashing a check, of course, But I

685
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: miss that. I miss that era of reality TV that

686
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: ended so abruptly after that Guy and Megan Wants a

687
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: Millionaire was found out to have killed someone and then

688
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: they couldn't do any more of those shows, and you

689
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: didn't like And I think that really was like VH one,

690
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: like won the Lottery with those shows, like it just

691
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: it was it became there, like you know, the Challenge

692
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: where like I love money became like the Challenge, you know,

693
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: and like I just I really missed that era. I

694
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: think the problem with that era was that it was

695
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: very exploited and pretty much people you met icons. I mean,

696
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: it birthed Tiffany New York Pollard. Like for that, we

697
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: have to give it its props, but I think that unfortunately,

698
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: what they were not doing was checking to see if

699
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: these people were actually batshit insane. Yeah, and now I'm

700
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: thinking when you cast reality TV now, like you are

701
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: looking for insane people like Mary is such a controversial

702
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: topic and I think the Bravo world and like the

703
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: in like the universe of it all, because you're like,

704
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: is it worth it? Like I don't know what are

705
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: you gonna say? No, I was just gonna say, like,

706
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I think they're looking for people who are crazy without

707
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: being a danger. Because that's the thing is I think

708
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: that in that old era, like some of those people,

709
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: if they looked even a little bit further, they would say, oh,

710
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: this person is potentially a danger. Whereas Mary I don't

711
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: think is a danger. I don't know, I think you

712
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: think she might be a danger? Could stuff aside. I

713
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: just think she's a dangerous person to have on television

714
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: because can you unpack this? Because she's like a virulent racist,

715
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: Like it's very clear now, Like it's like I don't

716
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: want that, Like I don't want this woman isn't fun

717
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: to me anymore. And she's like calling you how they're

718
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: like chubby and all this ship and I'm I didn't

719
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: like that. I just I really didn't like that. I'm

720
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: sorry to sound like then skinned it's but it's not

721
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: even that. It's just that like I am not enjoying

722
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: this person. And my thing with housewives is is it helps.

723
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: It goes such a long way when I enjoy the people.

724
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: That's my Potomac is my favorite. Even though I don't

725
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: like some of them. I mostly like all of them,

726
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: but they're the worst with body shaming and they're I mean,

727
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: we stand Candice, but she's certainly said some says some

728
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: on cool things. But then like, I don't know, Cannice

729
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: is very complex. Um Canis also was roundly humiliated on

730
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: this reunion in a way that might be karmic, who

731
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: knows like like there are there are things that like

732
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: there are come uppances that are just big and small enough.

733
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: The stakes aren't too high on Potomac solid feels like

734
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: the sticks are very high. Yeah, and I know you

735
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: love it. I love it too, but I just think,

736
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like there's something about Salt like

737
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: this season, like it's like it's no longer like that

738
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: enjoyable to me. Jen show stuff aside, Jenny is a

739
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: full flop. I'm so sorry Jenny's Jenny just once again,

740
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: like there was a moment where, like I think it

741
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: was after they had a conversation in Meredith is talking

742
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: to Jenny about something and Jenny was like, just like

743
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: agreed with her in a way that was so uninteresting,

744
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, I think I said out loud.

745
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: I was like Jenny once again not adding anything meaningful

746
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: to the conversation, like when she like ever like chimed

747
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: in and and and said something that where You're like,

748
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: oh wow, never not one damn show. I think in

749
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, when she was initially telling

750
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: her story about how she came to America and also like, um,

751
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, incredible life story, I just think she's mad.

752
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't care for her on television, and I think

753
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: that that's that's definitely true. I would say that she

754
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: does not offer anything in the I mean we saw

755
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: like there's in that Coming Attractions where she like slams

756
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: the glass on the ground in front of Mary. I'm like,

757
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm also over them breaking things like I don't know,

758
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Jen did that last season and it was breathed of

759
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: like staging and on desperation and I'm just like, nikes, desperado,

760
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: why don't you come to your sins? Have you watched

761
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: Tick Tick Boom yet? Yeah? Haven't. I'm so bad, I

762
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: gotta watch it. I'm really behind on culture. I only

763
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: say because this is a song called Come to Your

764
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: Senses and tick tick boom um, and it's really a

765
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: moment and it's a duet between Vanessa Hudgens and Alexander

766
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: Ship And can I just say, I think I'm way

767
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: back on board the Hudge train because I just saw

768
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: her architectural digest and she's got a beautiful home. I

769
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: thought she was amazing and tick tick boom and I'm

770
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: like obsessed with Vanessa Hudgens. I mean, I get it,

771
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: and like, I think, you know, what I think has

772
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: aged very well. Unfortunately, and this is not for me

773
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: to say, but I believe that this has aged well.

774
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Is it just in terms of like an iconic momently

775
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: COVID But you know, I mean, maybe I shouldn't be

776
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: doing this is amazing, I think, I mean, people are

777
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna die die like notable. She's like clearly like wine drunk,

778
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: like on her instant life. And I thought you were

779
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: going to say when you hit that, she blam, Oh yeah,

780
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's like so intromoking right now. It's it's

781
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: that was important because it was able to like everyone

782
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: was able to zero in on like the type of

783
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: person she represented in that moment, which was like a

784
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: siss woman straight let's say who Like it was just

785
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know, trying on these different

786
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: terms for size and like and she blam is like

787
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: not an inter that is that is what it is.

788
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: And she's got a dance background, extensive dance background. Again,

789
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: she's like a musical theater machine. That's why she gets

790
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: cast and all this stuff. Like I just think, I

791
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: just think she's I've always thought she's great. I think

792
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: she's fun, and I've also heard that she's fun. Like

793
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know her, but I know some people that

794
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: are friends with her, and apparently she's like a very

795
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: very very good vibe. You have a song called Sneaker Night.

796
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: How people don't talk about enough good vibe? Yeah, go no,

797
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: no no, I'm saying, like people don't talk about sneaker

798
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: Night or sacer Night is like one of the ultimate

799
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: getting ready songs. Sneaker Knight is. It's a floor filler,

800
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: it's a anthem, it's a pregame classic, it's a pregame classic.

801
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: It's forget about free game, it's it's it's during the game.

802
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: You know how many times like out in l A,

803
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: like we've put on sneaker Night, just to like make

804
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: sure that everyone can get on the same page. And

805
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: people fucking calibrate to that ship. They're like, oh, it's

806
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: a sneaker night night, got it. I mean, listen, I've

807
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: been to parties that were sneaker night themed. Okay, I've

808
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: seen what they're not. What they haven't done, which they

809
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: must do, is there must be a sneaker night lip

810
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: sync on drags. Sneaker Knight. It's one of the most

811
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: famous songs that no one talks about. They were singing

812
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: it at weddings, a funeral, funerals, graduations, at funerals. Children

813
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: were singing singing this song a sneak er night even

814
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: from the beginning, put to sneakers own, but going dancing

815
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: all night long, just from the very beginning, like the

816
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: sort of breakdown that starts it. I'm like, whatever that is,

817
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 1: I got some wet to be Wow, it's so good.

818
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: And Vanessa Hudgens was the artist. Yeah she is. People

819
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: forget she is an artist. She is lasted. Like I

820
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: remember I was. I was watching the Architectural Digest and

821
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, this house is beautiful. How she afford this?

822
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: And then I remember she's booked for decades since like

823
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: two thousand seven or whatever. High school is literally, oh

824
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: my God, God bless her. And we were rooting for

825
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: her always well and no one ever ever forgets that

826
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: her father passed away. Days for Greece Live. I think

827
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: the day before, the day before, I mean the sane

828
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: and she truly um. I also think like just to

829
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: like bring it back, like she's so good in tiktick

830
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: Boom and there's a there's a song called Therapy that

831
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: she does with Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield is another one.

832
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: He's so good, like another Drag Race guest and yeah,

833
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: it's just great. He had never sang before Tick Tick Boom.

834
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: And this is what I want you to see it

835
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: because like I would love to know what you think

836
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 1: because his voice sounds so good and for me, he's

837
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: my favorite UM male performance of the year. He was

838
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: also great in the Eyes of Timmy Fay, which I saw.

839
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Did you see Eyes of Timmy? Oh see that's that's

840
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: that's that's camp. Okay, Yeah, great good camp. I loved it.

841
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: We love Searchlight Pictures too. Yes, our distributor, our distributor

842
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: for fire and we we actually know what let's let's

843
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: try to talk about the movie as minimally as possible before. Well,

844
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: have you seen it? I've not seen it, Okay, I

845
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: I am, I have seen. I honestly think it's it's

846
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: not fair for us to talk about it. No. I

847
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: think people should just like think of it to judge

848
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: it for themselves, you know. No, that being said, I

849
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: would like to have some people from it on the pod,

850
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. We're gonna have people

851
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: from it on the pod for sure, but I just think, like,

852
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: let's I don't want to press my somb on the

853
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: scale too much like the release and like what what

854
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, what people say about it. I don't want

855
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: to really have anything to do with that. No. I

856
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: think that we learned from shooting it. It's best to

857
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: try to remove ourselves from it. Yes, as much as possible. Um,

858
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: but it's coming and one of us have seen it,

859
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 1: and our our reviews are under embargo at this time. Okay,

860
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go. So we are thinking

861
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: about making this a little bit of a shorter episode

862
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: because I am trying to not talk super super much.

863
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: So what do you think both should we had to?

864
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, let's do it. I love

865
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: it all right. This is our one minute segment where

866
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: we take sixty seconds, which is a minute to rant

867
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: and rail about something in culture that is grinding our

868
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: g E A R S. And I spell that like

869
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: sort of like you would have Gwen Stefani spall the

870
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: word bananas. Um, sort of join that now here with

871
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: the word gears. Alright, So Bowen Yang is gonna go

872
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: first this week. Um, but you have a topic? Are you?

873
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: Are you ready to go? I'm ready? All right? This

874
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: is Boen Yanks. I don't think so, honey. His time

875
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Nike, will it

876
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: tastes like ship and you don't work most of the time,

877
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: slop and listen, you went Coca Cola, So get out

878
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: of here with that cherry flavored shit. That's Cherry's reserved

879
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: for icons only. Okay, Nike, will you're basted? You come

880
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: in the little styrup and then we got to take

881
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: a shot of you and then hope for the best,

882
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: give it up to God. And then you wake up

883
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: the next morning, how many times happen to you? And

884
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: you go, well, that did nothing? I taste I swallowed

885
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: that disgusting a set of menefin syrup for nothing, didn't I.

886
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: So let's just I think we get Nike Will out

887
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: of the conversation. Niquill is no longer canon in terms

888
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: of medicine. Niquil is just is basically homeopathic medicine at

889
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: this point. I don't care put it in with the

890
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: flowers and the florals and the herbal suff It's just

891
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: as ineffective, if not more, Nike Will. You're done and

892
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: that's one minute ni quill more like I will find

893
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: something else. Girl just came up with that. Yeah, right

894
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: on the stuff, James Queen. You know what, I actually

895
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: I think it always succeeds in making me want to

896
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: go to sleep, which I always appreciate when I'm not

897
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: feeling well at night, because it does. It definitely does

898
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: put me to sleep. Is it decongesting me? You know,

899
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what happens doing any

900
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: of what it's what it says on the label, Well

901
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: day quills worse. I just think Vix really needs to restructure,

902
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: have the layoffs. Mama, layoff the people who like really

903
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: scammed us and condo us with this nif Will stuff

904
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: because I bet they're still around. I bet they were

905
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: back there during the thirties or forties or whatever the

906
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: funk it was invented. We need new blooded Vix, We

907
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: need all new icons. Okay, and a Niche needs to

908
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: get replaced. I want Vix to come out with a

909
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: new line of everything. Did the old typeface give us

910
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: like a bold seraph font? Do you ever put that

911
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: vix cream on? Not not cream vapor the Yeah, the

912
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: vapor rub that actually is amazing sometimes sometimes, But they

913
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: can't be leaning on that too much. That can't be

914
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: their only thing. They own a Nike Will, which they do.

915
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: I need to see them really make their product flyne consistent,

916
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: and that's not what's been happening. I didn't know that

917
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: Vix was like sort of this Rupert Murdoch type. I

918
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: want to see the empire of of the sort of um,

919
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, vapor rub and decongested industry. There's a succession narrative.

920
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: They're also can I say, yeah, really, let's talk about it.

921
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: The concept? No, no, no, no, I know what you

922
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say where you want me to say.

923
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: I was just going to bring up family businesses in general.

924
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 1: Being like, why are we why are we still doing that?

925
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Um, you want to talk about succession,

926
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: I just want to say it's one of the most

927
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: boring shows I've ever seen in my entire life, and

928
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: I know I have to give it another try. And

929
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: I also know that everybody just like veered off the

930
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: road through their phones, et cetera. It's not that I

931
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: stopped watching it. That I started the first season and

932
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, so I'm supposed to spend first

933
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: season takes a long time, and first season doesn't. It's

934
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: one of those shows and I know we're so past

935
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: this now as the culture, but it's one of those

936
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: shows that really picks up by the finale of season one,

937
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: and then season two is I think perfect television. Season

938
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: two is so good, and I actually am controversially gonna

939
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: say that this season is not doing it for me,

940
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: and the same I mean, I think everyone is saying

941
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: that this season is not doing it for them, because

942
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: essentially they're just regurgitating plot lines that they always have

943
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: and that feels like, well, because too, you had a

944
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: Holly Hunter and Terry Jones for a few episode, but

945
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: Holly Hunter really like makes you watch there's something about her.

946
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, Holly is one of the greats. Holly

947
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: is one of the greats. But like, season two is

948
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: really great to v and I highly I think you

949
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: should just stick it out until two and then you're

950
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: and then you'll fall even more in love with Sarah

951
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Snooke and with Kiaren and with them. I mean, I'll say, Kieren,

952
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: Kieren fucking rocks. And I I did watch the premiere

953
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: of this third season and I thought, to me, he

954
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: really stood out. He's amazing and in the best way.

955
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know, there was a really funny Gawker

956
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: wrote this funny reaction to this profile in the New

957
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: Yorker on Jeremy Strong. So I read the New Yorker

958
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: profile today and that's all. We'll just leave it at that,

959
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: because I think it's very interesting. Um let's just say,

960
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: if you want to read about my least favorite type

961
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: of person, then check out the New Yorker profile on

962
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: Jeremy Strong, who sounds absolutely insufferable Jared Letto level No,

963
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: not quite, but in that sort of vein where it's like,

964
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly everyone who works with him is like

965
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: constantly bombarded by his method tactics, and he won't rehearse

966
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: with anyone. He's cold to people on set because he

967
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: won't go in the makeup trailer at the same time

968
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: as anyone else. He won't go in the makeup trailers

969
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: at times anyone probably someone who is costing hours and

970
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: also lots of dollars to to cut around him, just

971
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: from a production standpoint, and that, to me, that type

972
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: of narcissist, straight male actor that um does things like that,

973
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: I think is a Mary Cosby level harmful. I mean,

974
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: if you're if you're saying on this episode that Mary

975
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: Cosby is harmful, that I'm saying, No, I'm just saying

976
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: she's like not fun to watch anymore, which is everything

977
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: on Ryan on a show like Caswaves get I get that.

978
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: I'm still having fun watching her, but I definitely don't

979
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: like the things. So she said in this episode that

980
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: we're you know, body shaming and like definitely racist. I mean,

981
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: and then is even hearing that sentence come out of

982
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: my mouth, It's like, yeah, that's pretty tough, but yeah,

983
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: there's no way around it, like and there's like thin

984
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: and like we can't sweep that under the rug the

985
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: same way that I think a lot of people swept

986
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: into the rug her like crazy anti black ship that

987
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: she's like said like on the show, I'm just like,

988
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: what is why are we still like hooked on this woman?

989
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: Like collectively, she certainly likes to throw around the thing

990
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: of calling people hoodlum and thugs and that's obviously coded language,

991
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean she definitely there's nothing for

992
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: her to hide behind on this last episode because she

993
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: literally called how they're chubby and then said but you

994
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: can't miss and Jen was who Jen? Who's the criminal?

995
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: Was quote unquote like we can't you You of all

996
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: people cannot be like team Whitney and be like but

997
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: I still like watching maryor it's not that I like

998
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: watching Mary. I think that she's still a valid part

999
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: of the narrative and I'm really this is my thing

1000
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: is It's like, if this is the way that the

1001
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: season is unfolding, then I can't wait for the reunion

1002
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: to watch them watch ask her, Hey, what's up with

1003
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: all this language that you're using? What's what's up with it?

1004
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Because it is racist and like it it is like

1005
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: fat full, begainn it is all these things. And then

1006
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. It's getting it's getting too remote

1007
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: for me, is all I'm saying. Yep, I hear that. Anyway,

1008
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: that's it one. I have one now yet. Okay, this

1009
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers, and I don't think so honey. As

1010
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so honey. Room service

1011
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: because you take three hours to get to any hotel.

1012
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what hotel you're staying at. If you're staying

1013
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: at a five star hotel, if you're staying at a

1014
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: one star hotel or even a motel that would have

1015
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: room service, it doesn't really matter what how much money

1016
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: you spent, didn't spend, how close you are to the kitchen, whatever.

1017
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: The room service takes forever, and I don't think so honey.

1018
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: It's also famously expensive hidden fees, the fact that they

1019
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: can get away with charging nineteen dollars for a simple

1020
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: cheeseburger even without fries. I don't think so honey. Room

1021
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: service is the only one doing it as badly as

1022
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: they do with these crooks, criminals. I'm not gonna say

1023
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: where I am right now, but I'm in a what

1024
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: is a lovely hotel, and I found out that their

1025
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: room services through a third party, which of course adds

1026
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: room services part of a third party. I don't think so, honey,

1027
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: it's already I don't think so honey. Enough when it's

1028
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: in the hotel, all I want is a goddamn chicken

1029
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: sandwich with fries. It shouldn't take an hour and thirty minutes,

1030
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: and that's what it takes. And I don't think so honey,

1031
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I mean at this point, room

1032
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: services only it for breakfast and then the rest of

1033
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: it you just order like a fucking Uber Eats or

1034
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: Postmates or whatever the hell your delivery person generously. But

1035
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: room service has really flopped, especially since the pandemic and

1036
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: in those early stages when the hotels wouldn't would straight

1037
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: up just not do it. When it's like okay, you

1038
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: don't get it through surfaces, it's fine, like let's just

1039
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: make me the food please. You know, As someone who

1040
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: was in the service industry for a very long time,

1041
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm usually someone who gives beyond the benefit of the doubt.

1042
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: Like even if a server is like absolutely pathetic, if

1043
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: there's things missing from my order, I'll still tip. But

1044
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: it's like really hard when the reason that you're ordering

1045
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: room services, so you don't have to like leave your room,

1046
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: like you know you need something at a certain amount

1047
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: of time, like you're trying to enjoy your experience, and

1048
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: then it just becomes a stressor because it takes forever, forever.

1049
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: I hate having to call and chuck in on things.

1050
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: I feel so annoying again because of my time in

1051
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: the service industry that I give the benefit of the out,

1052
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: but I can no longer give the benefit of the

1053
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: doubt for some of these room service experiences. It's like,

1054
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Speaker 1: come on, now, come on now, anyways, unacceptable behavior. Okay, well, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we checked in. This is a short one

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Speaker 1: and still an hour. Still still we can say the

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Speaker 1: length of a podcast. Yes, and I will say, and

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Speaker 1: it's okay that we have these episodes where we're just

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Speaker 1: checking in because we're both wet, busy, a little bit busy.

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Speaker 1: And also the thing is, when a guest comes on,

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Speaker 1: we want to be able to give the guests such

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Speaker 1: an exact time and energy and a focus, and so

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Speaker 1: the thing is like it's we're trying to be considerate

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Speaker 1: of everyone's time, and you gotta stay focused on you

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Speaker 1: right now because you're literally touring the country singing and um,

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Speaker 1: I have to I don't know, go to the motions

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Speaker 1: at my job. So, by the way, congrats on your

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Speaker 1: Critics Choice Award nomination. Thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: And I did want to say big up to Q Force,

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Speaker 1: who was nominated for Best Adminated Series, Big up to

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Speaker 1: four Way to Go Gabe. Yeah, and all the shows

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Speaker 1: I worked on were nominated, so we love amazing Other Two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Best Comedy Series. Okay, I was involved in that as well.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget. And because that's really congratulations to you. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: to both of us on the Other Two second season.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was our achievement. It was our achievement.

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Speaker 1: Al right. Well, we closed every episode with the song

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Speaker 1: yes we do Why I do up? Every time? You

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Speaker 1: unneed just to be fine.