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Speaker 1: If you're not nervous, you are not ready.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir, then welcome to the Nodoks podcast on

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Speaker 2: the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, March sixteenth.

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Speaker 2: Je Skeet's rolling this morning with mister what you need

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Speaker 2: to Know Himself, Tests, Melvis what's up?

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Speaker 3: Tests?

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Speaker 4: Hey everybody?

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Speaker 3: Hey, okay, we.

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Speaker 2: Got the international Man of mystery taking it to the

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Speaker 2: Max Lee Ellis friend, last, but not least, making the

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Speaker 2: magic happen here.

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Speaker 3: It's JD.

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Speaker 4: Hello, there he is, and here we are.

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Speaker 2: Apologies for starting a little later than normal here on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday. Shout out to the stream team. Though still

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Speaker 2: joining us live on YouTube, Please like, comment and subscribe.

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Speaker 3: That's all on me, my bad.

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Speaker 2: Lot's going on here in the house this morning, driving

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Speaker 2: people places, all worrying about the dog. It's okay though,

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Speaker 2: everybody's all right, But apologies for starting this up a

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Speaker 2: little bit later than normal. Email us your questions and

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Speaker 2: if you're a top shot hot boy or girl. I

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Speaker 2: fired up a live stream last night ripping another rising

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Speaker 2: Stars pack, got another banger and had some fun counting

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Speaker 2: down my top ten NBA top Shot thumbnails, which sounds silly,

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Speaker 2: it is, but we had a blast putting that together.

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Speaker 3: So that's up on YouTube. Go check that out last night.

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Speaker 2: And tasks, Yeah, I didn't even know it at the

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Speaker 2: time because I was I was doing everything JD.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I always knew you were making the magic happ and

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Speaker 2: I say it every day, but man, got a lot

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Speaker 2: of balls in the air to sort of keep your

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Speaker 3: To host the dance thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know a lot of moving parts. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: deceptively simple to do it, but when you have everything

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Speaker 1: going at the same time, it's it's it can get overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but I was gonna say task you. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even notice it at the time because again

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Speaker 2: I was a little worried about the you know, clicking

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Speaker 2: cameras and putting up overlays and whatever you were. You

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Speaker 2: were jumped in the YouTube. You jumped in the YouTube comments.

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Speaker 2: I guess the stream team comments should.

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Speaker 4: I definitely did. I don't really know what's going on

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Speaker 4: with this top shot situation, but I enjoyed watching the

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Speaker 4: top ten thumbnails. Yeah, everybody loves a good thumbnail. And

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Speaker 4: then you opened a pack of cards. Can you say cards, well, moments,

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Speaker 4: let's call it moments. Yeah, yeah, I always say, but.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is calling them virtual cards too, So it's the

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Speaker 3: same thing.

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Speaker 4: I saw a huge James Wiseman dunk that he got,

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Speaker 4: that's his best dunk of his young career. That's gonna

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Speaker 4: be worth something.

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Speaker 3: Got to Halliburtons in the same pack. Curtains Halliburton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lely, no composit, Lily, Sorry, but there was a

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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum like behind the back assists saving while he

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Speaker 2: goes out of bounds, And I said, you probably would

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Speaker 2: make that a very solid player or something, even though

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Speaker 2: it's way too sexy.

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Speaker 5: But any sexy players I infield traded they saw, so

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Speaker 5: who knows, I know.

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Speaker 3: So go check that out, guys. That's up on our

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Speaker 3: YouTube channel. No dunks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're going to talk about some trade deadline

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Speaker 2: trades that we want to see happen. You know, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna make our case for a couple of guys our

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Speaker 2: dream trades. I guess with this being like nine days away, but.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with some action from last night.

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Speaker 2: Play a little true or false fun and the first

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Speaker 2: one good game fun game between the Nets and the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: But Nick star Julius Randall, he had to be held

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Speaker 2: of New York's one seventeen one to twelve road loss

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Speaker 2: to the Nets. Here it is for everybody joining us

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Speaker 2: on YouTube. Randall chance to tie it. Closing seconds, He

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Speaker 3: He was pissed.

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Speaker 2: So the tru or false question, Lee, Julius Randall has

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's true he has a right to be frustrated,

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Speaker 5: but the call was the correct call by Scott Foster.

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Speaker 5: Scot Foster takes a lot of heat, but I think

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Speaker 5: he got this one right because for me, Kyrie clearly

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Speaker 5: touches the ball, but that's great defense because all he

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Speaker 5: doesn't dislodge the ball. Julius Randall still is in possession

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Speaker 5: is a jump ball. That is clearly a violation by

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Speaker 5: Julius Randall. You can't go up and then come back

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Speaker 5: down and dribble the ball like that. Just because a

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Speaker 5: If he sort of bobbled it around.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Once Curry makes the contact, then it hits the ground,

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Speaker 2: he could pick it up and we're a fair game.

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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, because if you just by touching the ball

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Speaker 5: doesn't automatically trigger it shouldn't automatically trigger a jump ball

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Speaker 5: if there is two people, because we saw three jump

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Speaker 5: balls at the end of the game, an incredible finish.

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Speaker 5: Actually that the Knicks one even close to this game

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Speaker 5: was fantastic defense. And we saw those ones even when

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Speaker 5: Those to me, when there's two people who neither of

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Speaker 5: when Kyrie Irving just basically just it's almost like a

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Speaker 5: I think Julius Randall knows that as well, and that's

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Speaker 5: look the guy got it. But he doesn't bubble the ball.

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Speaker 4: But he does lose possession.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't lose possession at all. He's got possession of

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Speaker 5: the ball the whole time. He's clearly in possession enough

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Speaker 3: He's too strong, is his problem?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if he would have lost possession, if the ball

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Speaker 5: it doesn't do that. Kyrie just kind of basically puts

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Speaker 5: it so that Julius Randall like doesn't get that clean

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Speaker 5: look away. But that was the right call. The Knicks,

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Speaker 5: they can complain all they want about that one, but

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Speaker 5: Scott Foster got that call right.

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Speaker 4: For me, I think I think it's a bit of

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Speaker 4: a tuck rule like the NFL or the old tuck rule. Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: technically I guess it's the right call, but he did

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Speaker 4: the judgment call there on the spot from behind Julius Randall,

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Speaker 4: which I think is totally incorrect. Yeah, he doesn't see

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Speaker 4: that Randall kind of bobbles it and loses it for

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Speaker 4: a sack. This is a tuck rule because even Damian

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Speaker 4: Lillard took to Twitter, who's watching it just like we

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Speaker 4: are having the best angles and saying, how can Scott

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Speaker 4: Foster whistle that for a travel? I mean the ball

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Speaker 4: got hit from his hand and he put it down

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Speaker 4: on the floor. So we're all, we're all, even the

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Speaker 4: best players in the world are wondering, how is that?

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Speaker 4: How is that called? It's because of this technical rule.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, from his hands, that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: His hands.

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Speaker 3: He got it, got hit, but it did not come

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Speaker 3: out of his hands at all. His hands and moved

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the ball moved it move move yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hand He tries to, like, no, save it at the end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean this this isn't even the best angle.

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Speaker 4: I would say, like it does he does. He does

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Speaker 4: it was coming from or from where he was rising

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Speaker 4: up and and it moves. But anyways, I think you know,

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Speaker 4: Scott Foster doesn't. It doesn't even backtrack after the game

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Speaker 4: saying that this was the correct call. I think you

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Speaker 4: gotta it's a judgment thing to me, and the judgment

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Speaker 4: you go by the feel. I mean, you can't, like,

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Speaker 4: is the tuck rule of the right rule the right call? No,

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Speaker 4: But Julius Randall, you know he missed the shot anyways

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Speaker 4: He got whistled, he threw it up, and they lost

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Speaker 4: this game. It's a tough call, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, maybe that is a fair criticism. This game,

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Speaker 2: by the way, took about what thirty minutes to play

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Speaker 2: the final couple, Yeah, it was long, it got crazy.

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Speaker 3: But the next was this, like, you know, was this

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Speaker 3: a moral victory? Ley? Honestly?

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Speaker 2: And coming back against a team many have favored to

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Speaker 2: go to the finals maybe win the title, of course,

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Speaker 2: no Durant Still, but the next mate of the game

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess if you want to call it a

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Speaker 5: moral victory, because it certainly had blowout written all over

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Speaker 5: it towards the end of the third quarter there and

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Speaker 5: then the Knicks really did fight back, and again they

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Speaker 5: in those last couple of minutes, and really in that

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Speaker 5: the needs took their foot off the gas a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I don't really think that was the case. I think

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Speaker 5: the Knicks just played hard. There was it was a

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Speaker 5: good sort of Battle of New York there. There was

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Speaker 5: a few people in the crowd. Kyrie was incredible. The

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Speaker 5: standard of this game was actually pretty high. It felt

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Speaker 5: like like there was a lot of really good, big

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Speaker 5: some metal down the stretch. You know, they didn't they

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Speaker 5: didn't fold, they didn't get blown out. Instead, they fought

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Speaker 5: pretty well. So yeah, I mean Tibbs doesn't care about

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Speaker 5: the moral side of things, of course, but more importantly,

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Speaker 5: I think just the fact that New York is no

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Speaker 5: I can't believe he hasn't had like a fifty point

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what they do here at the trade

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Speaker 2: one points, fifteen boards, ten as sis third consecutive triple double,

435
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 2: second consecutive woll boy last night to lead the Bucks

436
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,400
Speaker 2: past the Wizards one thirty three, one twenty two. That's

437
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 2: the bucks fourth straight win. Johannis became the third player

438
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: this season with a trip dub in three games in

439
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 2: a row, joining Westbrook, who's done it twice, and Jimmy Butler.

440
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 4: Sort of.

441
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 2: Well, but here's the question, and I'll get us started here.

442
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: But I got a couple of hypothetical questions for you guys.

443
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 2: The true or false is it is for everybody in

444
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,919
Speaker 2: the stream, team and everybody listening later. As crazy as

445
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 2: it sounds, there is an opening free honest to win

446
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 2: a third consecutive MVP. Now, y'all know my take on this.

447
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: I'm adamant saying this is impossible. I just like at

448
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 2: the start of the season, I'm us the Bucks didn't

449
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 2: lose a game. I just don't see it happening. And yeah,

450
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 2: narrative reasons alone, he's come up short in the playoffs.

451
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 2: That's gonna carry on. I know, it's just the regular season.

452
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 2: Should just be looking at the numbers and the team performance.

453
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 3: I get all that.

454
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 2: Becauziannis is putting up nearly identical numbers to these like

455
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: last two MVP campaigns, twenty nine points per game, nearly

456
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,959
Speaker 2: twelve boards, career high six point two dimes. And then

457
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 2: the defense is there basically one and a half blocks

458
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 2: and steals very close shooting nearly sixty percent effective field

459
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 2: goal rate again similar similar numbers. Now the Bucks are

460
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 2: not as hot as they had been in those previous

461
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 2: two years, but here they come. I mean, is it

462
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 2: out of a possibility lead that the Bucks finished the

463
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 2: year with the best record in the league.

464
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 3: I don't think that's that crazy.

465
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: And then the question is if that happens, Ken Yannis

466
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: do this, especially within b being out for a bit

467
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: Lebron tailing off. Of course, there's Jokic, you know, Lillard

468
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 2: and the Blazers aren't winning him as many games. Maybe,

469
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: as some thought, could Yannis actually do this, because at

470
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, I was like, there's no way.

471
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's not happening. And I still do believe that.

472
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: But I don't know what this guy is. The tearless

473
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: guy is going on right now? If the Bucks have

474
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: the number one seed, will people vote for him?

475
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 5: I mean, he should be in the conversation for sure.

476
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 5: It just feels like because we came in, all of

477
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 5: us with this sort of narrative that like, you haven't

478
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 5: done it in the playoffs, so we're not giving you

479
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 5: a third MVP until we see you really step up there. Now,

480
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 5: that's wrong. We shouldn't take in a predetermined result like that,

481
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 5: But I think everyone did. Everyone just was almost like

482
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 5: it's almost like, if you ask me, Steve Nash, the

483
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 5: third season after winning two MVPs, I thought was actually

484
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 5: better than any of those two seasons, but he didn't

485
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 5: run it. And I think largely for that same reason.

486
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 5: It was like, we're not giving Steve Nash three in

487
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 5: a row when he hasn't got a championship sort of

488
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 5: to solidify that. Again, those things shouldn't play into it,

489
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 5: but they do, and I think that's a thing for Yannis.

490
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 5: The Bucks started off slowly as well. He's just started

491
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 5: getting it together. And this is actually a good thing

492
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 5: for Milwaukee. They're flying a little bit under the radar

493
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 5: right now because Philadelphia has all the headlines, Brooklyn has

494
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 5: all the headlines in the Eastern friends, and Milwaukee is

495
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 5: just kind of sitting there playing some really good basketball

496
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 5: and Yannis you could easily argue he's playing better than

497
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 5: he played in those other two seasons. You know, So

498
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 5: it's there, but it's just like, nah, you're not getting it,

499
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 5: so it doesn't really matter what you do.

500
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 3: But I wonder what the conversation would be like if

501
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: the Bucks had let's say, made the finals last year.

502
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Like I mean, just be like, oh.

503
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 3: Yannis, you went three in a row and that would

504
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 3: be completely fine with it.

505
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: Like it really is that, you know, the coming up

506
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: short at the playoffs that is holding him back from

507
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: even having a chance at this.

508
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: It feels like it is for sure.

509
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 5: And you know, with the way that the Sixers at

510
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: Embid has played, that has taken a lot of the attention,

511
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 5: you know, And so now with James Harden in Brooklyn,

512
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 5: James Harden has got himself into the MVP conversation. Something

513
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 5: we thought that couldn't happen when he powdered his way

514
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 5: out of Houston, but he's done that. So right now

515
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 5: for Milwaukee, you know, this is this is actually good

516
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 5: because they weren't looking great there for a while. They've

517
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 5: ratted off four in a row, nine of their last ten.

518
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: They're playing great and Yannis is at that level. But

519
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 5: they all if you're Milwaukee, like you maybe even don't

520
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 5: want that conversation because it's just going to bring back

521
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 5: more pressure. Maybe you don't. You just want to get

522
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 5: to the playoffs and then succeed. But remember they lost

523
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 5: they basically got swept in the second round last season

524
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 5: to the Miami Heat. That that is a big knock

525
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 5: on Yuns, you know, because he's he should have been

526
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: better than he was to take that team. So now

527
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 5: it's almost like, Okay, the pressure is off in some

528
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 5: ways because those expectations aren't quite high and he's performing.

529
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, he if he keeps it, especially if EM

530
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 5: beat and with m beat out, if the Sixers drop

531
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 5: off a little bit, then the Bucks can get themselves

532
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 5: into that second spot. I think they're only a game

533
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 5: back of Brooklyn right now, so they could find themselves

534
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 5: back in that top spot, you know, very very soon.

535
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, Yannas should be in that conversation. I'm going

536
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 5: to open the restaurant and say, Yehna's come on in, mate, Yeah.

537
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: To the table.

538
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: What do you think, especially if the Bucks continue to

539
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: roll there we are if the Bucks rolled and did

540
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: have the number one seed, would Yianus warrant a ton

541
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: of MVP votes.

542
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: Or would be.

543
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: The team is not what they were last year. Even

544
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: if they get the number one seed, there's still a

545
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: worse team than they were last year. They were winning

546
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 4: seventy six percent of their games last year. They've dropped

547
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 4: off this year. Their defense that was number one in

548
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 4: the league the last two years is now number ten.

549
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: And Okay, well he's not winning Defensive Player of the

550
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: Year again this year. No one's saying that.

551
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 4: No, but he has to, you know, take a little

552
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 4: bit of the heat for them falling off and even

553
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 4: their win total again, Like, yeah, they're game and a

554
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: half back of Brooklyn and they're two games back of Philly.

555
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: But even if they get to the top, there's still

556
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: a worse team than they were last year and the

557
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 4: year before that. It's just kind of the parody. So, yeah,

558
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: they'll be at the top, but at the same time,

559
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: they he has to write a bit of a story

560
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: for himself, a bit of a narrative for himself, and

561
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: that's not a good narrative when you're losing more games

562
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: than you've lost the last couple of years when you

563
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 4: were MVP. It's just they're not going to get to

564
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: that same number. They're not going to get close to,

565
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 4: you know, a sixty win type team. Worked up percentages

566
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: here because it's a seventy seventy two game season. But

567
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: now I don't think he's going to get it, and

568
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: not even just because of the narrative part of it.

569
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 4: It's it's going to be really close, but there's there's

570
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 4: gonna be better teams out there, and even even in

571
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 4: the Western Conference. Let's ask the way she roll.

572
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's a fun question for everybody in the stream team,

573
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: everybody listening to the podcasts.

574
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: Is you honest in the conversation?

575
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: I think most people maybe have him at the table,

576
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: But does he have any chance to actually win this

577
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: thing because of what happened in the two prior playoffs

578
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: or could you see it?

579
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: Is there an opening?

580
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: Is there a little sliver though he could slip into

581
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: that crack and maybe get his third straight?

582
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: How many people have won three straight?

583
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: Right? Leately?

584
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean I don't have in front of me Larry,

585
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 3: Larry did because that Jay never even did?

586
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: Right No?

587
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, no magic one three out of four?

588
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, we'll see, we'll see. I'll get one more

589
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: question with you, Honis. I know it's very difficult, but

590
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: like if we are saying he can't win this one,

591
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: like there's just no chance, I do agree with that.

592
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: How many MVPs could Yanna still end with?

593
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Because again, like again, if the Bucks went they got

594
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: over the hump in the playoffs, they go to the finals, whatever,

595
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: like win it? I mean I don't know, like you

596
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: could see him like being the front runner next season

597
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: right or the year after that, Like, I mean, how

598
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: many potential MVPs does he have in his bag?

599
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: Barely?

600
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: Like if you were to take a guest, like, what

601
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: would you set the over under aft he ends his

602
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: career with. Yeah, I think you said it that four

603
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: and a half.

604
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's twenty six years old as well, so he's

605
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 5: got so many years ahead of him where he can

606
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 5: just go out there and put up thirty thirteen rebounds,

607
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: you know, five or six assists, steel block, he can

608
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 5: do it all. So yeah, yeah, what did you say

609
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 5: four and a half?

610
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: Does he finish with five MVPs over his career or less?

611
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I'll say less because it just feels

612
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 5: like that's a lot. And voter fatigue is no question

613
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 5: a factor as well at some point, so you know

614
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: he's getting that now, he's feeling that now, So I

615
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 5: would say four is where he's going to end up with.

616
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 5: But you know, things just change so quickly as well.

617
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 5: You just don't know who's going to come along and

618
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: be the glory boy there for a couple of years,

619
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 5: and you know someone like Zion is going to be.

620
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 5: He could just put up a couple of massive years

621
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: as well, and then he becomes the flavor of the month.

622
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 5: But if Giannis can win the championship in the next

623
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 5: season or two, then I think he can maybe you know,

624
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: load up on MVPs as well, because it's that validation.

625
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, you are an MVP, you are the

626
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 5: best player of the end because you eventually got there.

627
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 5: You just maybe we're a little premature with those because

628
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 5: you weren't able to convert them into playoff success. Again,

629
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 5: it's a silly way of looking at it, but I

630
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: think that's that's how people view it for sure.

631
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: All Right, Final one here a lot of the leader

632
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: games last night snooze fests tests, Suns bounced back to

633
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: spank the Grizzlies by twenty three points, bounce back after

634
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: a last the Suns did, Nuggets crushed the Piecers one

635
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: twenty one, one or six, and in the espn ACAP

636
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: Lebron's Lakers defeated the Warriors by thirty one. If I'm

637
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: doing my mask correctly, there that true false. The most

638
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: impressive blowout of those three, or maybe some other ones

639
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: you want to throw in the mix, was the Lakers

640
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: over the Dubs trure false tess.

641
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Golden State is the most five hundred team

642
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: in the history of the NBA. They really are. They're

643
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: point differential. I think it was like there are how

644
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: many points they've scored and how many points they've allowed,

645
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: was like even for a long time. So them sitting

646
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: at twenty and twenty and them dropping a game after

647
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: being up one game above five hundred, it's just inevitable

648
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: with the Golden State wars. It's it's law in the NBA.

649
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, they lost the game. So I wouldn't say

650
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: the Lakers win was too impressive. You know, there's there's

651
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: some a lot of blowout wins out there. But I

652
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: think watching the Sun's kick ass was was awesome because

653
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: Devin Booker, he just he doesn't like Dylan Brooks. There's

654
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: something going on there when they step on the floor.

655
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: It's awesome. It's awesome to watch. He really despises him,

656
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: but Dylan Brook's giving it back to him. In the

657
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 4: first quarter they were going head to head and then

658
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: they came out in the second half and the Sons

659
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: put away the Grizzlies. It's they're just a good team.

660
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: They hate losing. They came back after or losing their

661
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: previous game Saturday night and they put this Grizzlies team

662
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: away that is also a very good basketball team. So

663
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: the Suns are all business. Devin Booker has taken a

664
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: lot of names over the years after losing so many times,

665
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 4: and now he's paying back the league with buckets. It's

666
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: a blast to watch that dude work because he you know,

667
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: he's just got all that that huge bag of skills,

668
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: and so it's a pleasure when he hates somebody when

669
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: he wants to put on a show. He did that.

670
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: He only had twenty seven because he didn't have to

671
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: play the fourth quarter. But to me, that game was

672
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: cool because those guys didn't like each other. Even the

673
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: Sun's broadcasters right out the gate just said, I mean

674
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: Den Booker and Dylan Brooks they got something on the court.

675
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: They might be friends off it, but not even close

676
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: to friends on it.

677
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: It was cool to watch Dylan Brooks.

678
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: You know, good Canadian boy. You know, I love my Canadians.

679
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: But he's got a punchable face. He's got a punchable goateee.

680
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: I think maybe what it is, Oh wow, wow, you

681
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 5: just got punched himself there by Dylan Brooks. Wow, yeah,

682
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 5: I mean I know what he's saying though, Like Dylan Brooks, I.

683
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: Know it must be running the stream yard. As soon

684
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Speaker 3: as I said that, that happened there. Yeah, what were

685
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: you saying?

686
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: We were just saying though, I think I think you're right.

687
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 5: I know what you mean. He's one of those guys

688
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 5: that's just sort of like he's a good player. He's

689
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: a good player at both ends. It plays defense. But yeah,

690
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: he sort of I don't know, it's he's not sort

691
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: of a guy you cheer for. I don't know. It

692
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: just feels a bit, uh, it feels a bit strange.

693
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, you're yeah, that's the first time you've probably

694
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 5: turned on one of your Canadian.

695
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: Bro Look, I've got a punchable face. I'm Canadian.

696
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: He does, he does, and he definitely is like he

697
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: just irks people. You could see why a guy like Booker,

698
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: like we talked about, he did a great job on

699
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: Bill the last couple.

700
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: Of games played against him.

701
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to get into a guy and like

702
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: get up on him, and that can be annoying.

703
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: You know, Devin Booker doesn't want to double team in practice.

704
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: During the summer. I get it, you know, what are

705
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: we doing here? Let me get my buckets. But yeah,

706
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: top five most punishable.

707
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: Faces in the NBA.

708
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: That's actually a good photo of him. I would say

709
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: he really committed to the goate. You gotta give me

710
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: still rocks it. Uh so, yeah, that is that your

711
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: Is that your pick there? From all those blowouts? Lee

712
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: like Tessa saying, you think that was maybe the most impressive.

713
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 5: Well, you know, last night in our Pickham game, we

714
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 5: had the Lakers and the Warriors and the line was

715
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 5: two and a half and that actually moved I noticed

716
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: to one and a half just before the game, and

717
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 5: I thought, I wonder if someone's not playing out there,

718
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: like not Lebron, but maybe a Kuzma or a Shrewd

719
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 5: or a KCP. But no, that wasn't the case. I

720
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: don't know why it moved, but I thought, yeah, I

721
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: think the Warriors are in good spot tonight. But Lebron

722
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 5: just it was old school Lebron. He had twenty two

723
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: points on thirteen shots, triple double plus thirty three on

724
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: the game and it was you said, how how Lebron

725
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: was kind of like he's moving into fourth gear or

726
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 5: whatever gear is up to at this stage of the season,

727
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 5: who knows. And that's what it seemed like last night.

728
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: I watched this one this morning, I was like, god,

729
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 5: he this was like Lebron when he used to play

730
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 5: on some of those Cavs teams with a lot of

731
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: no name guys and just destroy opponents because he was

732
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: so good. But they were going up against Draymond Green.

733
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: Of course, you know, Steph, like this is a rivalry here,

734
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: and the Warrior is just coming off a very impressive

735
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: victory against the Utah Jazz. You thought, you know, this

736
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 5: is a sort of a momentum game here for the Warriors,

737
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 5: maybe they're feeling good about themselves. But instead, Lebron just

738
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: absolutely slacked this team and it was so super impressive.

739
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 5: And you know that he's still got that if he

740
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: needs to, he just occasionally, Yeah, he just flashes it

741
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: every now and again. He's like, hey, I'm still good,

742
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 5: you know, because there's no Marcasol obviously, obviously Anthony Davis

743
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 5: is still out there, and Alex Caruso wasn't there. I mean,

744
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 5: he's only a part of their rotation, their ben. But

745
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: you know, this was the sort of game where I

746
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 5: looked at thought. I think the Warriors that probably I

747
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: can almost win this one tonight. If not, you know,

748
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 5: because of the why they've been playing, but not the

749
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: case at ball.

750
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the stream team going nuts just talking

751
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: about NBA players with punchable faces.

752
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: Now, yes, I would agree with Greg here.

753
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: Number one on my list, Grayson Allen right up there,

754
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: looking like Ted Cruz when you just let the punch

755
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: up right and the kisser.

756
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: But anyway, you guys are having some fun to do

757
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: that stuff. Okay, so let's talk a little trade deadline

758
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: dream trades. I sort of teased.

759
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: I guess on yesterday show we'll be talking obviously a

760
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of trade deadline stuff in the

761
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: next week and a half here as we look ahead

762
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: to the deadline next week later in the week. So

763
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: I thought it'd be fun here today if each of

764
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: us sort of presented a player that you would particularly

765
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: like to see traded to a team. Maybe you're coming

766
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: with the trade machine fired up. I don't know, but

767
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: you got something in the works, You've dreamed it up,

768
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: and you'd like to see this actual trade happen again

769
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: within this next like nine day windows.

770
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: So tasks why don't you get a started it. Who

771
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: are you going with?

772
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 4: I'm going with the Hawks John Collins because I think

773
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: he is definitely a good possibility for the biggest name

774
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: to be moved. It just feels inevitable that he's going

775
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: to be moved. And it's weird because John Collins is

776
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: exactly what the Atlanta Hawks need. They need a power

777
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: forward of the future and they're kind of locked in

778
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: to their other four starting spots with Trey Young at point,

779
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: Bogdann Magdanovic. They just got DeAndre Hunter they love at

780
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 4: the small four position, in Clin Cappel at the five.

781
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 4: They need a four. So why trade John Collins? Well,

782
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: he rejected their four year, ninety plus million dollar off

783
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: for extension before the season. He's restricted free agent this offseason,

784
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: so it just makes sense that they're gonna deal the guy,

785
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: and the team that trades for him is basically saying,

786
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: we're signing this guy long term rights. That's what it

787
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: feels like, unless the Hawks aren't able to garner a

788
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: huge package for him, which I think will be the case,

789
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 4: Like there's they can't get a lot back because John

790
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: Collins only makes four million bucks and so you know,

791
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: unless it's a three team deal or that kind of thing.

792
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: But in terms of a dollar for dollar, you're not

793
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: getting a guy who's getting paid huge amounts of money

794
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 4: back in exchange for John Collins. So these aren't my

795
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: dream trades. These these trades that you get. You get

796
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: in the trade machine and you get John Collins on

797
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: one side, you're looking for players on the other. It's

798
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: not These aren't sexy trades by any means. So I

799
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: don't dream of this John Collins trade, but I think

800
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: these are two possible trades that could happen. Again, Collins

801
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 4: only makes four million bucks, so you're not trading much

802
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: for him in most circumstances. So let's go to the

803
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors. Oh okay, yeah, so the Warriors. Warriors

804
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: would this trade. The Hawks probably don't make this trade,

805
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: but the Warriors would love having John Collins to go

806
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 4: along with Draymond Green and Wiggy and Ubra and Steph.

807
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: If they could trade Eric Paskal, who's you know, a

808
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: power for that's what the what what the Hawks need

809
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: Alan Smileygeach who's a prospect. He's twenty years old, he's

810
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 4: a foreign born player. Maybe he turns into Polkashevski or Yiannis. Okay,

811
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: let's not go crazy and Kent baysmore to make the

812
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: money work and maybe a pick. It's not that that

813
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 4: trade's not sexy. Let's get that out of there. The Warriors,

814
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: the Hawks probably wouldn't take that. But again, I don't

815
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: think the Hawks are going to get much back for

816
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: John Collins. So the Detroit Pistons is probably a better option.

817
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: You've got some prospects there. It could be Seku Doumbuya

818
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 4: plus a really good first round pick, which is the

819
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 4: Pistons pick, and they're very bad.

820
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: Wow for Johns might.

821
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: Be interested in that if they think Collins is leaving.

822
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's like that bad pick.

823
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what peak John Collins trade

824
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: value is going to be a pick. And yeah, whether

825
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: it's Seku or Sadik Bay also works. One of those

826
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 4: two guys plus a pretty good pick. I mean, that's

827
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 4: Max Collins.

828
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: And the weird thing is with the wink wink from

829
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: the other team signing John Collins right for the long term.

830
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think the Pistons. Yeah, in this scenario

831
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: of Pistons would be one team that's willing to put

832
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: Collins contract or Collins name on the dotted line for

833
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: a long term deal. They start, you know, they've they've

834
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: done this Mason Bluntly thing where they're getting all the

835
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 4: old guys in there. I think it's time to turn

836
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 4: to a big name player. They've made that mistake in

837
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: the past, tried to sign big name players that shoots

838
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: them in the foot. But this one I think is

839
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 4: a good good for both sides. The Pistons, you know,

840
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: could could get John Collins signed for long term, although

841
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 4: you know, you know, his value is definitely debatable what

842
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: he is. He was twenty and ten last year. He

843
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: thinks he's a MAX guy and so the Hawks aren't

844
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: gonna pay him, so they need to treats something for him.

845
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 4: So I don't think they have a ton of leverage,

846
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that that would work.

847
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: What do you think about that, Lee, the Collins and

848
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: the Hawks moving apart here?

849
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's if you're the Pistons, Yeah, I think you

850
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 5: would like to have John Collins there. Would he sign

851
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 5: a because he's a restricted free agent? Of course when

852
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: he goes there, so what is his value? I mean,

853
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 5: he's going to get paid he's going to someone's going

854
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 5: to pay in big bucks. And I think the Hawks

855
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 5: kind of messed up by not offering him that extension

856
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: in the offseason last season. I think they should have

857
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 5: kept him. But if you can get Yah Sadik Bay

858
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 5: in return, and who was the boy was the other choice,

859
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 5: I would probably take the.

860
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: Deck which could yeah, I mean I get a high.

861
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: Pick, yeah, which is one of those players. Yeah, I

862
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: think I think the Hawks would probably do that if

863
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 5: if they just don't feel that they can meet what

864
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 5: John Collins team wants. I don't think he's a max player,

865
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 5: but he's not far off. He's not far off. He's

866
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: a young guy. He's athletic, you know, he's a he's

867
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: a good player. He's got to work on his game

868
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 5: a little bit, of course, like all young players do.

869
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: But there's some potential there with John Collins. He's a

870
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: modern sort of big man as well. He can hit

871
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 5: that three. You know, he runs a floor. His defenses

872
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 5: is okay, it needs to improve there, but you know,

873
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: there's going to be a lot of interest. There's going

874
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 5: to be a pretty healthy market for John Collins if

875
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: if he was, you know, to hit restricted free agency.

876
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, where are you going, Lee? What's your dream trade?

877
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to just tell about the tire bow

878
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: on the Bradley Beial trades that I've been trying to

879
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: get out, because you know they've been they've been. Look,

880
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 5: they've been playing better down there in Washington, but it's

881
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 5: all lipstick on a pig. I mean, they're not going

882
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 5: anywhere near contending in the Eastern Conference, so you may

883
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 5: as well cash in why he can now, and I

884
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: think the team that has just snuck in there to

885
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: the top four in the East, the Miami Heat, really

886
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 5: could actually improve by giving up a couple of the

887
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 5: younger pieces like a Kendrick Nuhn and Duncan Robinson, maybe

888
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 5: even a precious ature just to get that deal done

889
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 5: to try to get Bradley Bill there. You've got a

890
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 5: couple of draft picks as well. Now I'm saying, you

891
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 5: know you're going to have to have a third team

892
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 5: because of the salary that Bradley bal makes. He gets

893
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: about twenty eight million this year, and those other guys

894
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 5: just don't earn anywhere near enough. But if you're the Heat,

895
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 5: you know they are a good team. I think Beal

896
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: makes them a legit contender down there in the Eastern Conference,

897
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 5: and I think if you can, you go after him.

898
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 5: Right now, they were potentially in the mix for Victor Oladipo.

899
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 5: Don't think that's going to happen. Of course, Yannis were

900
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 5: hoping would become an unrestricted free agent. That didn't happen.

901
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: Bradley Beal he's got another guaranteed year on that deal

902
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 5: as well. I think you go and you try to

903
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: make that move happen because it makes the Heat a

904
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 5: better team. And out of Tyler here on Duncan Robinson,

905
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 5: I'm keeping Tyler Hero. I think didn't throw a Taylor

906
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 5: Hero at him in there. No, I wouldn't give up

907
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: both of them, but I definitely you're gonna have to

908
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 5: give up at least one. And again Precious a Dure.

909
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 5: You know, the rookie. He's a star, well potential star player.

910
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 5: So you're giving an incentive to those other teams to

911
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 5: try to sign to try to get him, and you've

912
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: got a couple of picks there to dangle. So I

913
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 5: think there's something there in the works. It's just how

914
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 5: you would get that thirdeen involved to make the salaries

915
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: work and to see what they're you know, see what

916
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 5: they would be prepared to give up. But if you're

917
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 5: the Wizards and you can get a couple of picks

918
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 5: in return, couple of first round picks, of course they

919
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 5: could fall. They could not, they might not be super high.

920
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: I think there's something there, and I think just for Beal,

921
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 5: he I know he's been he's being a good soldier

922
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 5: by not saying anything, But why stay there, man, get out,

923
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 5: go and go and compete for a championship. I'd love

924
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: to see him on the Heat.

925
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I think the Wizards are immediately going to say,

926
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: we're not doing anything unless you're throwing Taylor Hero in

927
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: the mix. So if you're pat Riley and the Heat organization,

928
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: are you hanging up immediately or you said okay, okay, yeah,

929
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: I know we can. We can build something around Taylor

930
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: Hero is our star player, going back to you for

931
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: a Bradley Beal with other pieces.

932
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 5: Of course, if the Wizards are like, okay, we're prepared

933
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: to do it, then yes, you go, okay, well we'll

934
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: do Tyler Hero. We'll keep Duncan Robinson. Then you'd try

935
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 5: not to give up both of those guys because they're

936
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 5: great shooters to.

937
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: Have out there.

938
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: So but yes, if you wouldn't you know who's a

939
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: better shooter of Bradley Bill?

940
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, you would not do the deal. You would

941
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 5: not do the deal if you're the hate if they

942
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 5: if they say we must have tall here, I wouldn't say, well, no,

943
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 5: it's not happening. You would still do it. You would

944
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: just dangle the Duncan Robinson carrot first and they nibble

945
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: on that.

946
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: All right.

947
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: What do you think tasks Bradley Beal's he going anywhere?

948
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not going anywhere, right, I know league

949
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: keeps streaming here, but he's there for the for at

950
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: least through the deadline, I think.

951
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: No, yeah, nine days on the clock. Well, the the

952
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: the math and what am I thinking of here? The

953
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: factors into this season are different than last season. Right,

954
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: There's just a lot more buyers than there are sellers

955
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 4: because the Wizards could make the playoffs, right, I mean,

956
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 4: it's it's literally part of the equation this year. I

957
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: think that's a factor. If it was another year, the

958
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 4: Wizards wouldn't be able to sniff the postseason where they

959
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: are right now in thirteenth, But they got a legitimate

960
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: shot of making tenth and that's I mean, it's it's

961
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: wild to think that, but they they definitely do.

962
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: So.

963
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that factors into the equation here. And

964
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: it's probably not gonna happen in nine days because the

965
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: fact that there aren't enough enough teams willing to give

966
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: up what they got, you know, probably just you know,

967
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: it kind of hurts the trade value that Bradley Beal

968
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: would get back for you in the next nine days,

969
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: But that dilution would go away in the off season,

970
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: where Bradley Beal I think inevitably says bye bye, you know,

971
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: whether it's in the off season or before next trade deadline,

972
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: I think he's he's going to go. The Heat just.

973
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: Don't have enough draft capital either, I think to get

974
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 2: a like guy like Beale, right because we saw Harden,

975
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: we saw Holiday. I mean we're talking multiple pick swaps,

976
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: multiple picks like like the whole future. You've just mortgaged

977
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: your draft capital for players like that. Yeah, and the

978
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: Heat would have to get creative, like you said, with

979
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: like maybe another team in the mix. But I can't

980
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: imagine the Wizards that they did move on from Bill,

981
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Like we're not talking about like one or two young

982
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: players and then one pick for a gallic bill.

983
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: It's insane. It has to be.

984
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: It has to be a minimum like three four picks

985
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: or the swaps or stuff like that, like you've got

986
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: you've got to take the other team's complete future when

987
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: it comes to their picks, hoping that they fall off

988
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: or they have a down year and stuff like that.

989
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: In my opinion, yeah, I.

990
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: Agree, I agree, But again I think with those younger

991
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: players someone like in a chure, you're sort of throwing

992
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: that guy in there as well. I mean, this wouldn't

993
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 5: get done as it is. You need that third team

994
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 5: just to make the money work. But again, if you're

995
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 5: the Wizards and you can get a couple of at

996
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 5: least first round US to start with and two young

997
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 5: players with talent, yeah there's something there to start with anyway.

998
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean Bill like these these the recent

999
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: sort of you know, they had a few wins there

1000
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 5: and was like, because you know, talk about making the

1001
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: planes on the God? Is that is that the best?

1002
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: Is that the ceiling for the Wizards? Let's make the

1003
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 5: playing tournament, right? I mean, you know, you may as

1004
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 5: well just blow it up and start all over again.

1005
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 5: It's there's no point. And you know, like I say,

1006
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone would be too angry if he said, yeah,

1007
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: I've been here for a while, this is not working.

1008
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: I want to go somewhere else now because the Wizards

1009
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: haven't really been able to build anything around here and

1010
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 5: John Wall that's that's the thing. And bial's been their

1011
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: nine seasons, and so it's like, all right, you've done

1012
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: your time. You can move on without people getting upset

1013
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 5: with you.

1014
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 3: You definitely want to mative what we know much. That's fine.

1015
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying no, I get it, because like

1016
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: even if you're like, best case scenario for the Wizards

1017
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: next season, what is.

1018
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 5: It exactly like what it's like?

1019
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 4: Maybe?

1020
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean I can't even convince myself they'd win a

1021
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: playoff series. I don't think not.

1022
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 5: As they are constructed right now. I mean, you know,

1023
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 5: they made the Westbrook for Wall deal just like, sure,

1024
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 5: let's do it. You know who cares. But you know

1025
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: it doesn't really translate to anything. You know, they signed

1026
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: Burtimes to five years and eighty million, Like yeah, great,

1027
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: he can shoot, but that's it. That's all he does.

1028
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 5: You know, Actually, Mura Okay, not a bad player, But

1029
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 5: there's just nothing there that makes you think this team

1030
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: in a couple of years, if they get it together

1031
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: in state, it's just like they're on the treadmill of

1032
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: mediocrity and they need to go in a new angle,

1033
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 5: new direction.

1034
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: Well that's my team or my player that I'm talking about.

1035
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: You talk about that treadmill there that you're just what

1036
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: are you guys doing? You're not good, You're not really

1037
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: that bad. The Orlando Magic, I'm looking at them. They

1038
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: got numerous possible trade candidates, right, Evan Fourignier, he could

1039
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: be trade expiring deal. Terrence Ross obviously a six man

1040
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: or shooter there that you can see a lot of

1041
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: teams being interested. Vucevic Okay, you know all Star puts

1042
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: up monster numbers. I think it's less likely to happen.

1043
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: I think the Magic would still like to keep him

1044
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: as a building block. But then my guy Aaron Gordon, Okay,

1045
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 2: that core that I just said. They've been together since

1046
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: like the sixteen seventeen season when Ross came over, like

1047
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: midway through. What do they have to show for it?

1048
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: A couple first round playoff exits. You know, they get

1049
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: in there sometimes and then they're out right away. Okay,

1050
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: what are we doing.

1051
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: At this point?

1052
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon, He's only twenty five years old. That's it

1053
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: feels like he's thirty five to me because we've been

1054
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: covering this leaf for a long time. But he's eager

1055
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: to welcome a scene, a change of scenery. I think

1056
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: the Magic should be very open to getting something in

1057
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: return back from him. So let's just make this happen now.

1058
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: We got reports yesterday guys that until Gordon's had that

1059
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 2: little left ankle sprain kept him out for a couple

1060
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: of weeks, it looked like the Timberwolves in the Magic

1061
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: were nearing an agreement on a package for Gordon, possibly

1062
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: Ricky Rubio and then future draft capitals, so the Wolves

1063
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: could still be interested. The Rockets were reportedly interested, the Mavericks,

1064
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: the Warriors maybe, and then my team that I'd like

1065
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: to see him try and get to is the Nuggets,

1066
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: James Herbert wrote for CBS Sports.

1067
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 3: I thought was perfect.

1068
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: The Nuggets are an interesting destination for Gordon because it's

1069
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: a fun thought experiment of what if we asked Aaron

1070
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: Gordon to be the league's best role player? And I

1071
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: love it because you're not gonna be a star. You

1072
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: don't need to be a star on a team with

1073
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Yokich or even Murray. So if we got him there

1074
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: to Denver, what would it take. I think there's a

1075
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: couple options. One you can literally just do you just say, Okay,

1076
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: well you got a guy that's sort of disappointing in

1077
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: Denver and Gary Harris and we're the Magic. We got

1078
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: a guy that's disappointing a little bit in Aaron Gordon.

1079
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: They got similar contracts, similar years. Let's make some sort

1080
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: of swap. Maybe the Magic or excuse me, the Nuggets

1081
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: have to you know, throw a pick or two in

1082
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: to entice Orlando to make that deal. I think that

1083
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: could get it done. But the Magic might be even

1084
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: more interested in something led by Will Barton to make

1085
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: the money work. PJ Doser as a young guy who's

1086
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: shown some flashes and then and then some picks, probably

1087
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: future picks from coming.

1088
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: From Denver for Aaron Gordon. I like the idea of

1089
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon being a defensive minded guy.

1090
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: He's good on defense, he really is. I know, we

1091
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: just think about the dunks. Sometimes he catches fire from three.

1092
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: You see him have like a twenty five thirty point.

1093
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: Now You're like, oh, he can play defense, and I

1094
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: think the Nuggets could use a guy like that, especially

1095
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: after Jeremy Grant left in the offseason. What do you

1096
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: think about that Ley getting Aaron Gordon to the Nuggets

1097
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: or maybe there's another team you have in mind.

1098
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 5: Gordon is a great mystery because he tends to start

1099
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 5: seasons off very hot from both ends of the floor,

1100
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: shooting the ball well and plays defense, and then the

1101
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: sort of he regresses to the mean. But he's athletic,

1102
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 5: he's fast, he can jump, he can hit that three,

1103
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 5: and I think he desperately needs a change of scenery himself.

1104
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 5: I know he's injured obviously right now, but yeah, I

1105
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 5: do like that for the Nuggets because I do think

1106
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 5: they do miss Jeremy Grant's defense and just his sort

1107
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 5: of two way play because he was exactly what you're

1108
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: describing there. He wasn't the star of the team, but

1109
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 5: he certainly filled in a lot of the gaps that

1110
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 5: they had. You know, he could hit that three, he

1111
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 5: could drive, and he could play defense. He was sort

1112
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: of their box and one guy when they needed that

1113
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 5: last season, and I think they do have a bit

1114
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 5: of a hole in that spot. So if you can

1115
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 5: get Aaron Gordon sort of rejuvenated to the right situation,

1116
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 5: I think he would be a steal for any team

1117
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: who gets him, because he shows us he's the big ltzer.

1118
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 5: He shows us these great flashes of brilliance, but then

1119
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: it just sort of seems like he's stuck in the

1120
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: mud a bit there when he does play in Orlando,

1121
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 5: So I like that, what was the deal? Sorry, what

1122
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: with the nugget?

1123
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: There's either it's like a Gary Harris and capital for

1124
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: him or Barton Dozier.

1125
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 5: And then I think, I think if you're the magic,

1126
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 5: you probably want Will Will Barton. Gary Harris is dropped

1127
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 5: off a little bit there, and Dozier, Yeah, he's a

1128
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 5: little inconsistent, but I think there's some talent there, and

1129
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 5: if you can throw a pick in as well, then

1130
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 5: then I think I think the magic could be enticed

1131
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: by that. I mean, it won't be a super high pick.

1132
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 5: Of course, it depends on the year and all that

1133
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: sort of stuff. But yeah, the problem there with Will

1134
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: Barton is he's good for them, and they need to

1135
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 5: make sure that Aaron Gordon would replace Like he's three

1136
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 5: point shooting his offense because he's he's a bit of

1137
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 5: a streaky guy, but they need him as well, and

1138
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 5: he's been good for them this season when he's been playing.

1139
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: So I think some Nuggets fans might be worried tasks.

1140
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: Maybe you would you would think about this. I don't know,

1141
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: Like if you write Aaron Gordon in, are you going

1142
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: to be like taking minutes away from Michael Porter Junior?

1143
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: You know, are you are you pushing him down the

1144
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: pecking order or whatever because they're sort of similar builds

1145
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: position wise, they can sort of play three, four or five.

1146
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 2: It feels like though they're still trying to find and

1147
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: you know, the sweet spot for Michael Porter Junior. Is

1148
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: aren't even concern there if you got him to Denver

1149
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: or not?

1150
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: Sure? I think there's a concern right now with Michael

1151
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: Porter Jr. And Jokich being a four or five, Like,

1152
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: you need good defensive players around Michael Port Junior. That's

1153
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: just the way it works. And if you were to

1154
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: bring Aaron Gordon in, for sure, Michael Port Junior would

1155
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: be playing more small forward I imagine, or Gordon would

1156
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: be playing small for I mean, Aaron Gordon's probably good

1157
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: enough defensively to make up for some of those deficiencies

1158
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: that Michael Porter Junior has. But I don't know if

1159
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 4: I don't know, if you mess with what Michael Porter

1160
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: Junior is doing right now, because he's finally found his

1161
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 4: flow here. It took him a long time. And Aaron

1162
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 4: Gordon Junior, of course, Aaron Gordon Junior, Aaron Gordon would

1163
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 4: make a heck of a lot a lot of sense

1164
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: on Denver just in general. Yeah, he would fill at

1165
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: the Jeremy Grant a whole a lot better than what

1166
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: they're trying to do right now. But I don't think

1167
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: Orlando makes this deal, you know that Will Barton to

1168
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 4: come back as that the main piece in that one part.

1169
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 4: I mean, he's thirty years old.

1170
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 3: He's expiring, isn't he.

1171
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well yeah, don't they want a player? Don't

1172
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 4: they want a player for Aaron Gordon? I mean, I

1173
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 4: mean yeah, I think they would. They would hope that

1174
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 4: they get something back. I mean, I guess it would

1175
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: depend on the picks. But yeah, Aaron Gordon. I just

1176
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: hope he doesn't go to Minnesota or somewhere where there

1177
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: isn't a lot of structure, like like what's happening in Orlando.

1178
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: I think in Orlando right now. Yeah, he he came

1179
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: into the league, he thought, you know, he could be

1180
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: a superstar and it hasn't worked out. So he's got

1181
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: to go to somewherehere it's got They've got a ton

1182
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: of structures so he can you know, fill in and

1183
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 4: is a great defensive player and a support player. But

1184
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: that doesn't that's not going to happen in Minnesota, doesn't

1185
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: feel like at this point. So even though he's a

1186
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: great talent, yeah, Denver, Denver sure makes sense. But Michael

1187
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: Porter Junior, I don't know, man, you don't mess with

1188
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: that right now because he's just he's balling right now.

1189
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't care where Aaron Gordon ends up. I just

1190
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: want to see him off the Orlando Magic. I really,

1191
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: I'm done with it. I think everybody's done with it,

1192
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: and let's just get them to another team.

1193
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: Already, and I think it will happen.

1194
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: I was happy to see those reports, you know, like

1195
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: the Wolves were pretty close by sounds. I guess there

1196
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: was a Brooklyn Nets report too, right that they were

1197
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: trying to offer, which now you look at it if

1198
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: you're imagine and go, well, maybe a dinwitty writer or

1199
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: a avert basically going back to make that happen. You're like, oh,

1200
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: you would like that probably now of those injuries coming

1201
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: in and play for both those guys. But anyway, we'll see,

1202
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: we'll be having some fun with the trade deadline deals

1203
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: over the next little bit. If you got a good one,

1204
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: send it in No Dunk's at the Athletic dot com

1205
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: or leave it in the YouTube comments. All right, Lee

1206
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: talking to me about glasses? Man, Okay, let's get to

1207
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: tweeted the night.

1208
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: Too bad that sexy librarian can't read with those glasses.

1209
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 4: I know. Tweet over and out.

1210
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: Wow, what do you got tea?

1211
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: Well, scouring the internets for a tweet, I found this

1212
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 4: beauty from Rustin Todd of The Athletic. He was doing

1213
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: some research on the inspiration for Ted Lasso, you know,

1214
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 4: the great Apple TV Plus show. The inspiration was Sudacas's

1215
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 4: high school basketball coach Donnie Campbell, who would start every

1216
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: practice with a quote like, you can't hoot with the

1217
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 4: owls at night and fly with the eagles in the morning.

1218
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: You know that sounds like something Ted Lasso would say,

1219
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 4: and rust And Todd of the Athletic also found this

1220
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 4: article in the Casey Star about Sudakas the basketball player.

1221
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: There's a good quote in it, quote Sudaikas is very unselfish,

1222
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 4: but he's not a true point guard. He also plays

1223
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 4: with Oh Wowudaka is not the best of athletes, according

1224
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 4: to this article in the Casey Star, but he understood

1225
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: the game and like our own Trey Kirby, he loved

1226
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 4: to throw behind the back pass. He loved the flash

1227
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 4: of the game. So it's always funny, you know, reading

1228
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 4: about somebody else being an athlete, about about any anybody

1229
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: in the spotlight being an athlete. So it was a

1230
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: great little little piece of that article, which is an

1231
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 4: awesome article, the Ted Lasso inspiration article on the Athletic

1232
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: which you can get a subscription to for one dollar

1233
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: right now if you go to the Athletic dot com

1234
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 4: slash no dunks. Now, the link isn't really working on

1235
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: the Athletic dot com slash no dunks, but we're working

1236
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: on that. Tell him we sent you and you'll get

1237
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 4: it for a dollar a month. How about that. Yeah,

1238
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: So that's that was a great article from Russ and Todd.

1239
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 4: Thanks for the tweet. He's providing some behind the Seeds

1240
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: info Jason Sudeikas. He could ball in high school, but

1241
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: not a true point guard, you know. I look for

1242
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 4: his a little bit. Also played the wing. I mean

1243
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: it was before his time. I guess he was before

1244
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: his time.

1245
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: Did he play in a celebrity game?

1246
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: I can't remember him.

1247
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 4: Hoping sounds familiar.

1248
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's always I just think that because he's

1249
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: always around games, right, he's always sitting like court signs

1250
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: for like that's what I remember NIX games. Yeah, yeah,

1251
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: I can't picture him in it.

1252
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 5: But lee did he Okay, he played in what year?

1253
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 3: Was that?

1254
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 5: Twenty eleven? He played on him? I think he played, uh,

1255
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen in Toronto.

1256
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: There we go, all right, Sorry, sorry, I'm not up

1257
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: to date on my celebrity rosters.

1258
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 5: You know.

1259
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: When I just checked the list, my name's not there,

1260
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: and move on. I don't I don't read any of them.

1261
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: Oh come on, man, you keep that twenty sixteen roster

1262
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: above your bed.

1263
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: I was aboard.

1264
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well that was that. That That roster in

1265
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen was USA versus Canada too, not the you

1266
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 5: know how it's usually just like oh.

1267
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the uh that's the infamous uh texts

1268
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: his name from Arcade Fire. I'm drawing a blank will

1269
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: win Butler, will Barton, Yeah, win Butler?

1270
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: Right yeah, got all political after that, right, that's right?

1271
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1272
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, who asked that question? Same?

1273
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1274
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 3: Memory?

1275
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 4: Man?

1276
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 5: Wow, well I just remember Sage was like, we don't

1277
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 5: want to talk about that.

1278
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do want to talk about healthcare. Got his mic, Yeah,

1279
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: talk about free healthcare?

1280
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: Wind Butler.

1281
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: You so, snekis could you beat him late? What do

1282
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 3: you think?

1283
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 5: I have no idea. I've never seen him play, so

1284
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what his game is like. But but

1285
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: you know, sure i'd like to take him on in

1286
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 5: the game. Why not. Why not go out there and

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00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 5: shoot it? It would just be like a three point shootout.

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00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 5: Really these days, you know, there's no I'm not driving

1289
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 5: in the lane anymore. I've retired from the paint. I'm

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 5: just shooting floaters.

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Speaker 3: He must be around your age, I would think, maybe

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00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: at a little bit younger than you.

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 5: Let's see, let's see what that says in Wikipedia. He's

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00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 5: forty five. He's actually older than me.

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00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 4: Wow.

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00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's make it happen there. His

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00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 5: uncle is George Went that's that's norm Yeah. Yeah, hey listen,

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00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 5: if anyone knows Jason sudeikis, then if he wants to

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00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 5: have a little one on one raise some money for charity,

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 5: let's make it happen.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, challenge has been set. Excellent, Okay, let's

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: get to pick him.

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 3: Results brought to you by Bett MGM from last night.

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00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: Lakers Warriors was the game. A few of us had

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00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: the Warriors.

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00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: To cover and that didn't work out well for Lee

1307
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: or Tasks, thinking the Warriors might keep it close or

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00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: even pull out the victory. No, Lakers steam rolled them,

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00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: like I said, by thirty one, so I got the victory,

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00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: and so did Trey. By way of JD JD jump

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00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: on here, my man, you're hot. TK must be loving it.

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Speaker 1: I assume I haven't heard from him.

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00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even sure he knows you picked for him. Yeah,

1314
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: he's truly on vacation. Good for him. So well, you

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00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: helped Trey get to five and three. Tass is six and.

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: Two, so he still got a great record despite the loss. Lee,

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00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 2: you're now in last place at three and five because

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm four and four.

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00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: What is tonight's geme?

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00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: Tass And Yeah, JD. I mean, you're automatically picking for

1321
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: Trey here for the rest of the weekend. Yeah, but

1322
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: what's the game?

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00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: Of course you are here, I'll get I'll tee you

1324
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 4: up here, JD. This line brought to you by bet MGM,

1325
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 4: and it's the Jazz favored by four and a half

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00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: points going into Boston. Seems like a big spread, but

1327
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: this is the Jazz. They are the best team in

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00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 4: the NBA technically, but they've lost three of four, four

1329
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 4: of six. The Celtics have won five of six, but

1330
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: have they been convincing enough in their wins for you

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Speaker 4: to take them today? J D plus four and a half,

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00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: you're getting those points. What do you think JD's last tray?

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00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: Well, on behalf of Trey. I'm going to I'm not

1334
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 1: going to bet against the best team in the league.

1335
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Speaker 1: So give me the Jazz, and you know, I think

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00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: he I think Trey might be going back to work

1337
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: tonight after a French dip from Rudy Gobert. Wow, I'm

1338
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: going to predict that clearly. I think you're going to

1339
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: see a very solid play from Mike Conley, and I

1340
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: think and we're getting a weggie.

1341
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: In this that's the tri factor, right, that's that's a

1342
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 4: real gambler. You get one win and now you think

1343
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: every day.

1344
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm betting this house.

1345
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 5: This house is up of crabs.

1346
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Speaker 3: Sweet.

1347
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: Well, look you're you sound convincing. I'm rolling with I'm

1348
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: rolling with JD.

1349
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: Here. This guy, he's on fire, he's undefeated. Here and

1350
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: pick up. I'll go with Utah to minus four and

1351
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: a half.

1352
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 4: That's what do you think I'm taking Utah too?

1353
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: Wowa, Lee, you gotta swerve. You got to go for

1354
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: the Beantown boys, right.

1355
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll swerve on the Beantown is. Yeah, it's a

1356
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 5: close line. I mean the Jazz. You know, they're in

1357
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 5: a bit of a rough patch continuion considering where they

1358
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 5: would But all right, I think the Celtics can cover that.

1359
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 5: I'll take board.

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: You get some points, so okay, lead take in Boston

1361
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: plus four and a half. Everybody else has the Jazz

1362
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: to win by five or more.

1363
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,160
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