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Speaker 1: How you doing, Bro, I'm doing good. I woke up

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Speaker 2: Love.

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Speaker 1: It was running warm in my veins. I had use

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Speaker 1: on the floor. A lot of people have an appointment.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't reschedule.

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Speaker 2: What they say. From where we're from, We're on this

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Speaker 2: side of the dirt. Yeah, that was the first thing

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Speaker 2: I wanted to say before we said anything, Bro is

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Speaker 2: check in with you.

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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bat

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Speaker 3: the price, one slice got the brother Geist, the swap

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Speaker 3: all my life. I'p be grinding all my life, all

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Speaker 3: my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bat the price,

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Speaker 3: one slice got the brother Geist, the squat all my life,

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Speaker 3: I'd be grinding all my life.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shade Shay. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Shinning Sharp. I'm also the propriud of

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Speaker 1: Club shap Shay stopping by for conversation or a drink

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Speaker 1: Today is one of hip hop's most multi dimensional figures.

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Speaker 1: He's a Gray Grammy nominated rapper, award winning songwriter, and

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Speaker 1: multi platinum artists versus producer. He's the first rapper inducted

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Speaker 1: into the Mississippi Musician Hall of Fame. He's evolved from

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Speaker 1: a rapper into a dynamic force behind the scenes. He's

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Speaker 1: CEO of Banner Vision, who created campaigns for Gatorade, Disney, Marvel,

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Speaker 1: Gillette and Pepsi. A multi talented actor, activist, philanthropists, entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: entertainer and public speaker. An advocate for humanity, a cultural

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Speaker 1: thought leader and outspoken commentator on social issues. An industry

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Speaker 1: veteran for over quarter century, he uses his voice and

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Speaker 1: influence to push the boundaries and spark meaningful change. One

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Speaker 1: of the major forces behind the Dirty South rap breakthrough

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Speaker 1: in mainstream music in the early two thousands. From them

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Speaker 1: I Croocket Letter, crookeet Letter, I criokt Letter crookd Letter humpback, humpback. Ah.

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Speaker 2: Here he is yours truly, David Banner Shannon.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how you doing it? I'm doing good? Like now

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Speaker 1: you know what. I woke up this more. I was

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Speaker 1: in my right mind, love, it was running warm in

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Speaker 1: lot of people have an appointment, they couldn't reschedule what.

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Speaker 2: They say from where we're from. We on this side

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Speaker 2: of the dirt. That was the first thing I wanted

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Speaker 2: to say before we said anything, BRO, is check in

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Speaker 2: with you, like I need you to understand something. BRO.

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Speaker 2: When you decided that you were going to talk like

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Speaker 2: you talk, be intelligent, make sure that you know everything.

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Speaker 2: I watched how you researched. I watch how it meant

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Speaker 2: something to you because I remember as an actor, you know,

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Speaker 2: one of the first things they told me to do

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Speaker 2: is to crush my southern accent or I was going

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Speaker 2: to be typecast.

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Speaker 1: I remember that, Bro.

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Speaker 2: And for you to decide make a conscious decision that

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Speaker 2: you want to speak like you Bro, and you brought

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Speaker 2: them to you that meant a lot. And we have

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Speaker 2: to be careful, Bro. Sometimes we will allow them to

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Speaker 2: turn and our blessings into a jail cell like Bro.

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Speaker 2: As you know, I watched when you talked about Bro

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Speaker 2: not having no running water.

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Speaker 1: In the crib.

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Speaker 2: Bro, people don't even understand where we come from, in

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Speaker 2: the environments that our grandparents.

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Speaker 1: Live and our mothers lived under. Bro.

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Speaker 2: You know, and for you to break generational curses, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I want you to understand that regardless of what they

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Speaker 2: decide to try to do. Bro, you own yourself. You're

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Speaker 2: a made man. So Like, one of the things that

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Speaker 2: I think that we do is we become so judgmental

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I talked about recently, people were really interested in this

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Speaker 2: conversation about how and I'm not talking about whether he

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Speaker 2: was right or wrong or not. That's not for me

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Speaker 2: to judge, that's for us for God to judge. But

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Speaker 2: like how media did Chris Brown when he was a child.

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Speaker 2: He was a kid. People forgot he wasn't even twenty

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Speaker 2: God say, We forget about being human beings, and we

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Speaker 2: pray for forgiveness every can. I cuss y'all every day

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Speaker 2: of our life. But we are the most judgmental people

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Speaker 1: What happens is is that we ask for forgiveness, but

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Speaker 1: even though at the smallest mistakes, realizing.

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Speaker 2: That at the end of the day, we're human and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna air and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the thing for me is that

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Speaker 2: And I'm very thankful.

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Speaker 1: I'm very appreciative of the people because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people had the sacrifice in order for Shannon to be

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Speaker 2: You know what, I think that that your followers should

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Speaker 2: he and be honored and blessed that this much chocolate

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Speaker 2: is on their camera right now. Just look to take

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Speaker 1: I'm in that gym, not quite as much as I'm

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Speaker 1: in that junt dog. Yeah, I's that's what Jordan, my

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Speaker 2: He was like, man, okay, I see you've been in

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Speaker 2: dog man. I'm so thankful bro. You had al Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's one of my partners. Yeah. He's amazing, bro. Matter fact,

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Speaker 2: I saw it shocked you when you asked him a

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Speaker 2: that taught me, man that if we really about what

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Speaker 2: There's certain spaces that are not for us, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: we have to be careful. I had to learn this, bro.

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Speaker 2: I just came out like a major depression. Bro. And

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Speaker 2: I think I can't say what God was trying to

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Speaker 2: show me, man, but I think God was trying to

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Speaker 2: tell me that even the things that I think are

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Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying. So I thought fighting for black people,

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Speaker 2: I thought being a good person, I thought all of

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Speaker 2: don't know that Psalms is a song versus from a song,

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Speaker 2: and that as much as people talk about it, if

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Speaker 2: a gangster rapper. No, really, I'm serious. And the only

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Speaker 2: treat David Benner and how they trying to treat you,

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Speaker 2: so just like just as me and Bro like regardless,

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Speaker 2: it ain't my it ain't my place, Bro, But I

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Speaker 2: people don't most people really don't care. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Bro, everything that you've accomplished, all that you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and what you'll continue to accomplish than I appreciate it. Man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you for having me

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Speaker 1: in your space. Thanks for coming to me. How have

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Speaker 1: you been, Bro? Better than I ever been in my life?

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Speaker 2: Bro? To be honest with you, man, it's it's so funny, man,

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Speaker 2: because the kids try to call me O G And

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Speaker 2: I'm serious, Bro. With the exception of speed, I'm stronger

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Speaker 2: what people don't understand is my life is just starting. Bro,

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Speaker 2: look at what you were able to accrue after football. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and think about this, bro, like sometimes the things that

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Speaker 2: us because he knew it would be a nightmare. Correct, Bro,

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Speaker 2: You've done so much more after football. Bro, I'm doing

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Speaker 2: what I'm doing right now. Bro, I didn't even dream it.

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Speaker 1: Bro right, No, I definitely didn't see this aspect. Yeah, Bro,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm about to be a superhero.

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Speaker 2: Bro. I play a god in a movie that's about

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Speaker 2: to come out.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: And that's the reason why. Now, Man, I've stopped asking

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Speaker 2: why and I ask what, Like what is it for? Like,

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Speaker 2: You know when you get in that gym, Bro, that

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Speaker 2: rep don't start until you feel the pain. So when

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Speaker 2: to work because it was getting easy for you. I

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Speaker 2: know how it is. We get spoiled. We spoiled children. Bro,

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Speaker 2: So it started getting easy. Now, Okay, I'm back where

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Speaker 2: I knew it. I saw it. But it's like, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm from Mississippi. Yeah, and God placed me in that

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: He said that if you can put any type of

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Speaker 2: a beacon of hope for people in places. And I'm paraphrasing.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's hard to speak for a man

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Speaker 2: a minute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned you're from Jackson, Mississippi. Yes, Now, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Mississippi is not New York. It's not Chicago, it's not

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Speaker 1: I would like to hear what was your upbringing where

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Speaker 1: you like, I mean, I know, Jackson is the capital,

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Speaker 1: and so where you on a farm, where you're in

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Speaker 1: the rural area, what was growing what was David Banner's childhood?

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Speaker 2: Like, So this is the craziest thing.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to be a city boy my whole

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Speaker 2: life and then I'm move from Jackson, Missippi. Then I

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Speaker 2: And that's the reason why it's important for you to

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Speaker 2: have purpose in life, because sometimes God has already blessed you.

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Speaker 2: I spoke at the Waymaker's conference and I was telling

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Speaker 2: You said something very interesting.

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Speaker 2: So your reverence for your brother, Brod always respected that

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Speaker 1: Well, that was our whole thing growing up. And I

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Speaker 1: It's more of a mother because she taught me all

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Speaker 1: My grandmother used to always say, boy, she say, son,

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: And as I at the time that she said it,

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Speaker 2: And no matter what, no matter what, honestly, man, like,

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Speaker 2: Like where I'm from, you don't don't talk to nobody. Bro,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't talk to my friends about

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Speaker 2: But that's only that's only because the environment that our

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be around us, Bro. We make enough money

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Speaker 2: He said, I don't do business with men that cheat

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Speaker 2: sure can't. And I never thought about that. If I

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Speaker 2: And it's funny, Bro, I just talked to Matt Barnes

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Speaker 2: you ain't never in your life so an angry kung

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Speaker 2: You ain't gotta get mad about it. Mad is a

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Speaker 2: lack of information. If you are the greatest, you ain't

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Speaker 1: BRO.

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Speaker 2: Like I really want you to know that it's okay. However,

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Speaker 2: this shit go Bro, you already won, right Like we

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Speaker 2: made us, gave us the vision to see further and

432
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: to want more. But Bruce Lee said something that was

433
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: so powerful. He said, the goals are only your north

434
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: star to keep you moving. They're not always things that

435
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: you are supposed to accomplish, but we gotta keep moving

436
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: or you die. Right. Yeah?

437
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: So growing up so was rap? Did you play sports

438
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: in high school? Did you play sports growing up? Did

439
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: you ever want to be an athlete?

440
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 2: Did you?

441
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: Always was wrapped with the only thing that was on

442
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: your mind? So what were you going to do to

443
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: get out? Because I know Jackson, Mississippi, grew up, born

444
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,239
Speaker 1: in Jackson, grew up in Jackson. That wasn't gonna be

445
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: your final rest in place.

446
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: I never I never said this before, but people used

447
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: to laugh at me because I was a rapper. Some

448
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: of the same people that asks for record deals now

449
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: I remember them laughing at me. Yeah, but it's like,

450
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: why are you trying to do that New York shit?

451
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: With for us, laughed at me, Bro and uh I.

452
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: My uncle came from the North, Bro, and for some

453
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 2: reason he wanted to be a He wanted to be

454
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: a blues DJ. I didn't even know that was a thing. Bro.

455
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: He gave me all of his rap records.

456
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: I remember.

457
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: The first record was a rockless Step from stet Sosani.

458
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: What you know about step?

459
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: I just told you, Yeah, I just told you, just

460
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: say step yeah Tela rock. Oh Man, now you're going

461
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: back men tronics. I'm telling you.

462
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: And I was a little little kid. Yeah, imagine getting

463
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: this type of information. Bro. But what people don't know, Bro,

464
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: is that we were battle rapping in Mississippi. That's how

465
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 2: powerful uh hip hop was at the time. Man, And

466
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: he gave me all these records, Bro, and it helped

467
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: me to escape. Hip hop had always been like Bro,

468
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: I I listened to. I related more to you know,

469
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: groups like Hieroglyphics, Bro and Soul's a mischief because the

470
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: dope dealing the violence. My friend Chucky was the first

471
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: person to die from gang violence in Jackson, Mississippi. He

472
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: was older than me. We used to go to what

473
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: y'all call Circle K. It used to be stopping go

474
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: back in the day. Okay, So it's this game that

475
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: was the ripoff of pac Man was Ladybug Like I

476
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: would go down and we would play Ladybug Man and

477
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: as old as he was. Because what people don't know

478
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: is that the people who were affected the most by

479
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: gangs was dance groups because they were already in a group.

480
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: No different in fraternities. I think that's what Jim Jones

481
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: was trying to explain to people. Bro football is a fraternity, absolutely,

482
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: like bro basketball is. Rap is a fraternity. We're just

483
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 2: not as organized, correct, you know what I'm saying, Like,

484
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: that's what we might as well just go ahead and

485
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 2: say it and get organized and made it move. And

486
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: Chucky was Chucky was the first dude to ever die

487
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: brou So it affected.

488
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: Me in a way.

489
00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: And what happened was bro is that I loved rap

490
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: so much because it was always my escape from my reality.

491
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: But what it also did is, think about this, Bro,

492
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: this is gonna freak you out.

493
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: Bro.

494
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: I stopped eating pork in Mississippi, and you know how

495
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: we feel. How would you start to eat poked? Eleventh grade?

496
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: Eleventh grade in Mississippi. So I hadn't been eating pork

497
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: long in. No pigtails, no nothing, no bacon, nothing, no sausage. See,

498
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: that's the reason why people listen to me, shining killers,

499
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: because I tell people I never eat chillers. Oh okay,

500
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: ha mo, No, But let me tell you this. Listen.

501
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: This is this, This is the reason why I think

502
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: kids listen to me. Bro, I would swim in pork

503
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: if I could. This shit tastes good. Act like this

504
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: shit don't taste good for real. But what I tell

505
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: people this, and be honest with you, Listen to me

506
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: when I say this, y'all, would you eat rad if

507
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: it tastes good? You probably would? Shut it?

508
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Look a shiney, y'all take a drink first, shaty you

509
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: probably your big ass, Your big ass probably wild her

510
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: home Grandma. You decide that. The only reason why.

511
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying that is because the rats died is better

512
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: than the pigs.

513
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

514
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: The pig will literally eat your ass. Yes, it ain't

515
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: nothing the chicken I grew up on the phone. That's

516
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And you hold on, but let me

517
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: tell you, But let me there's a difference. The thing

518
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: that I realized, though, Bro, is that is that as

519
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: I got older. Bro, that hip hop actually taught me something. Bro,

520
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: Like I stopped eating because of Brand Nubian, you know,

521
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: I tell at the time his name was X Derek

522
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: X at the time, like Bro, it was the reason

523
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: why I stopped eating pork. And then Bro from that,

524
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: I read Malcolm X's Auto Bar It changed my whole

525
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: entire life. And and then from the Broader Files, I

526
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: actually stole that book for my cousin. This is the

527
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 2: story that I'm actually and I'm not gonna go too

528
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: far into it, but the lead singer from House to Payne,

529
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: he ended up buying two of my God Boxes I

530
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: put out my last project that I put out. Some

531
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: people said it was the greatest marketing so calls. They

532
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: call it marketing schemes. But he ended up buying two

533
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: of those God Boxes because his sister got pregnant by

534
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: a black dude. So his children, I mean, his nephews

535
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: are black and he bought them God Boxes because he said,

536
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about being black, but I do

537
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: trust David Banner. What's funny is how I became conscious

538
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: because my cousin stole the remix, the Pete Rock remix

539
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: of Jump Around from me, and since he stole my

540
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: CD at the time I stole that book, I read

541
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: that book from Chicago to Mississippi, and it changed the

542
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: whole course of my life. And that's why I'm David. Now,

543
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: how did you so.

544
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: When you tell your mom, you tell your dad or

545
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: your grandparents that I ain't even port no more cause

546
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: you like bacon and all that stuff.

547
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: Food is hard to get in the South. Let's be clear,

548
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: I know where you're going. Go ahead and said, they

549
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: ain't bringing no shoulder. You know you ain't getting no

550
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: the best. First of all, you're not getting the best

551
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: cups of meat on the pig anyway. So you getting

552
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: the scrap and a cop have merch. I don't think

553
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: I had hamburger. You get ground hamburger. But you're not

554
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: getting no no, no surlar, or you ain't getting no

555
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: real body, no none of that. So how did you

556
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: make that?

557
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: How did you like your great your parents and your

558
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: grandparents like, I ain't even pork no more.

559
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: Me let me show you something powerful. And I didn't

560
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: realize this, bro until three years ago. Okay, watch this.

561
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: My parents actually stopped eating pork because of me. Huh,

562
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: they they they were on my ass at first because

563
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: they thought it was just a fab but I think

564
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: they knew what I was saying was true. You know

565
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And I didn't notice that. My parents

566
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: didn't start back eating poork until a year after I

567
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: left school. But sometimes man our parents in the South,

568
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: and I was just telling a young man this today,

569
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: that our parents worked their asshole so we could be

570
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: smarter than them. Sometimes we get frustrated at our parents

571
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: because they don't understand what we understand. But there's no

572
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: way for them to understand. All they could do is

573
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: work right so we could be smarter, so we can

574
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: be the best football player in the world.

575
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: They were never exposed to what we're being expected to

576
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: and so I think, like this is something personal. Bro,

577
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: Like my mother start going to church because of me.

578
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: Wow. She's like, there's no way that my child is

579
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: going to church and I'm not going to church. Wow.

580
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: And so I ended up telling my mom later on,

581
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: like you trusted me when I was sixteen, Just consider

582
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: what I'm telling you now, because if you followed me,

583
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: then I'm not asking you to believe in what I

584
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: believe in now, but just consider it. And then I

585
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: had to learn that they worked hard so they wouldn't

586
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: have to consider us, Bro, And so like back in

587
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: Mississippi as far as eating pork and all of that

588
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Man, like the fact that they gave

589
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: me the opportunity because they had to eat what they

590
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: had to eat and what your choices. Yeah, so for

591
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: me to even have that is a blessing and I'm

592
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: grateful for Yeah.

593
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the fifties and sixties being

594
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: vegans an option for a black person. But but but

595
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: but on the other side, we were no, we were

596
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: green or that's hilarious. Oh I'm greasy.

597
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Just say it, dog, It's okay right now. We already

598
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: got the rains and stuff. Just say I'm greasy. Bro.

599
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: I actually usually need lotion.

600
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: What come on, do it now?

601
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: We done broke the third walls. Let's do it. One

602
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: thing I want you all to take us take into

603
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: consideration though, is we cut tree greasy?

604
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

605
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: That used to be the thing you wanted to be greasy.

606
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever happened on them now.

607
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: But what I was saying was, Bro, is that for

608
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: us to be in a position, Bro, to even be

609
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: able to do it, Shannon, and I want you to

610
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: think about this off camera.

611
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: Bro. It ain't no, it ain't no losing for us.

612
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: Bro. My my parents couldn't consider not eating pork. And

613
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: one thing that people don't talk about. It was a

614
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: little bit different because the pig was actually a part

615
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: of the family. We went and got our pig from

616
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: the backyard. I'm dead serious, so we know what that

617
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: pig was eating. Yeah. I don't eat fish, bro, But

618
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: I had a catfish farm. When MTV cribs that, everybody

619
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: says one of the like, dude, I had catfish and

620
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: I fed them. So my catfish you can literally see

621
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: through their skin because I didn't eat my catfish. Bullshit.

622
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: I fed him like I fed the dog. So when

623
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: we ate, when you ate the pig in Mississippi and Georgia,

624
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: it was almost like eating your fourth or fifth cousin.

625
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: Because I know how I know how media is. Yeah,

626
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: cut that up and said that I was eating Yeah.

627
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

628
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: It was like they're like pat Yeah, because you found

629
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: them out your hands.

630
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean you saw him great, Like okay, yeah, that's

631
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna be you know, come Christmas time.

632
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: That's the one that's gonna be you know. But let

633
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: me ask you this day, what do you think the

634
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: number one thing that you learned from your parents? What's

635
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: the what's the number one teaching that Like when you

636
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: going through something or you somewhere and you sit back

637
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and think and you're like my mom my dad said.

638
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a great one, shutter. It's when

639
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: I was one of the top producers in the world.

640
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: I was out in Vegas producing for arguably one of

641
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: the biggest artists on this planet, and the artist came

642
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: in and Bro, this is w before I was the conscious,

643
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: super conscious David Banner. This is before I was polished.

644
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: I was straight off the streets and I would jump

645
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: in your ass quick right. This is when a lot

646
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: of people don't notice. I was on the terrorists list

647
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: before it was a thing because Universal didn't pay me

648
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: my money and I kicked open twelve doors and they

649
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: have money behind none of 'em. Hark. Yeah, it didn't,

650
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: but but I played into the game. My anger played

651
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: into they game because they owed me that money. And

652
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: what people didn't know, Bro, I didn't sign the Universal

653
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: until way after like a pample that came out cause

654
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: I had told them folks, and I don't think white

655
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: folks was used to this cause they were so used

656
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: to black people being money hungry. I said, y'all already

657
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: put my record out. I ain't got a sign shit

658
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: you ow me? Cause I knew I could sue them.

659
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: I've always been smart. So I said, what you do

660
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: is get my contract right, I'll go on this tour

661
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: on trip would have my money. So I had become

662
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: this ten million dollar David Banner and my mother was

663
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: in Mississippi bro struggling, dunk you know the way, and

664
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 2: I'm making millions for you and my mama can't out

665
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: hurt you. Okay, let me get back to the story.

666
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: So what I learned from my dad, I'm trying to

667
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: be more upbeat. My dad told me this, Shannon, and

668
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: I live by this to this day. Man, it changed

669
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: my life. The artist walked in said I just came

670
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: from gambling and I was playing a beat that was

671
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: for somebody else, and this artist was like, who is that?

672
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: Who that fuck? And I was like, it's not for sale.

673
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: It's not for sale, right, And the person flipped me

674
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: a ten thousand dollars chip. Now number one, I'm missisp

675
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen no ten thousand dollars chip. I'll

676
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: be dambling havelf my life right, But Nigro, you don't

677
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 2: throw nothing in me. We're not used to that shit.

678
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: I almost lost it and I called my dad. I

679
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: let I walked outside the studio and called my dad.

680
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: I said, Dad, I didn't even tell him the story.

681
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: He said, what's wrong? I said, I said Dad, I

682
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: was shaking. I was so mad.

683
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: I was like Dad.

684
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: He said, stop, how do you feel? I said, Dad,

685
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: I don't feel good at all. He said, pack it

686
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: shouldn't leave. I said, Dad, I'm about to make six figures.

687
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: He said, I don't give a pack your shit. He said,

688
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: I'd rather you work in the post office and be

689
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: a seventy dollars man, then be a million dollars woman

690
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: with an invisible skirt on. Hem never never, never forgot that, bro,

691
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: you can walk around looking like a man having an

692
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: invisible skirt on. He said, pack of shit. I'd rather

693
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: you be back in Mississippi in the mirrorand and be

694
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: a man that I can look at.

695
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: So the guy thought he could flip you that ten

696
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: thousand dollars chip and get the beat. I mean so

697
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: what was, what the thing was.

698
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: It's regardless, Man. I think sometimes that we get into

699
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: this industry and forget that we're still human beings. And

700
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: that's something that I don't want to lose. Shannon, I'm

701
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: going to tell you somebody never told nobody look at

702
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: my hands. Yeah, I don't wear gloves in the gym.

703
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah you do hard. Yeah, I can see the calysies

704
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: already built up for our were gloves that ain't. But

705
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: we got different we got different things. But literally, Bro,

706
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: like I said, I as much money as I make,

707
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: I never want to lose the fact that I come

708
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: from a working man's back background. Okay. I honestly though, Shannon,

709
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: Man that my dad taught me that is like, there's

710
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: certain things that we never want to lose. And Bro, like,

711
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're going through. Again, I really

712
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 2: felt like, Bro, it's part of my my purpose as

713
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: a person. But you come from the South, you come

714
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: from certain things that they gotta be born into. You

715
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: always remember those things. But that's the reason why you

716
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: hear it ain't nothing like that shit, Bro, Ain't nothing

717
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: like our grandparents and our grandparents are dead now, Oh yeah,

718
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: for sure. That's one thing that I wanted to start

719
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: a business where we go and get all of our

720
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: aunties and cousins, all of those quilts. Bro. You know

721
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, those homemade biscuits. Bro, like the stuff

722
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: that white people are making millions, White folks making millions

723
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: of dollars off chicklings. Bro. We weren't supposed to be

724
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: eating no Chicklin's, but we didn't have no We had

725
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: to turn it into a delicacy. The new Chiland now

726
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 2: is oxtail. Well, I tell you they're killing them folks

727
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: in New York.

728
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm telling you did Jamaican's mad As it was like,

729
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: damn that ship down the Yeah, you feel me, But.

730
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: Like that's what I'm saying, like shaying it, bro, Like

731
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: it's it's in us, Bro. And I know for a fact,

732
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: man with a AI and all of this technology, the

733
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: one thing you can't fake, it's authenticity. That was the

734
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: reason why no folks jumped on you. It's more country

735
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: folks than it is city folks. Don't always remember that,

736
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: like it's more of us, it's more struggling people. That's

737
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: the reason why the blues and black music resonates so well.

738
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: The only thing that makes us relatable is all of

739
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: us are gonna die. So pain is the only common

740
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: denominator with all human beings on this earth. Bro, That's

741
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: what makes us special.

742
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: Wow. I saw the viral video where you told you

743
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: the dad told you, say, son, do what you know?

744
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: You smiling and your dad called you and said, what

745
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: are you smiling for? I stop smiling? Did you understand?

746
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: Did you understand at the time why he didn't want

747
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: you to smile? I didn't.

748
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: But what I do I don't hate. What I do

749
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: hate is I don't like people talking about my dad,

750
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: like I wish I would have explained it a a

751
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: little bit better. And this gives me the opportunity. Yeah,

752
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: what happened was was my dad knew that he had

753
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: to raise a certain type of man, especially in the South. Correct,

754
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Like my dad told me the story once. Do you

755
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: know one of the reasons why Southern people beat their

756
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: children so violently because in the South, at one time,

757
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: by law, if you raised up to a white person,

758
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: they could kill you, absolutely. So what they did was

759
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: break you so that when they beat if somebody beat

760
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: you while you was in town with them white folks,

761
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: they wouldn't kill you, so they got you used to

762
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: being beat Do you know how much that would hurt

763
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: a parent to have to beat their child up? And

764
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: the child doesn't deserve that. That's what I'm saying, man, Like,

765
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: when people judge black people, there's a reason. It's a story.

766
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: That's why movies and our music we got to get

767
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: out of commercialism, bro, and we got to get back

768
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: to telling these stories of why when they see black

769
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: people and they see us, man, and they see us,

770
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: do certain things been conditioned to be this way? Brouh.

771
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm on this really big tour and yeah, I'm talking

772
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: about it. People. A lot of people get scared of me, bro,

773
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: because I tell the truth. Man, Like, I'm on this

774
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: big tour and the sponsors are coming at me because

775
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: I told them white folks, I said, I said, your

776
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: grandparents taught you how to be racist, you know, And

777
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: I said, I don't need you. I don't need no

778
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: white savior. What I need you to do is for

779
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: you to check your racist uncle. The people who you

780
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: know that're saying the word nigga, the people that make

781
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: you feel uncomfortable because you love my music, so I

782
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: know you know better, go back and check your grandfather,

783
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: your mother, your cousins, your sisters, your uncles. That's the

784
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: reason why, like when we become judgment or some black

785
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: black people. You know your uncle so dope. Why you

786
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: treating somebody else kid like that because they selling dope.

787
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: You know your uncle so dope. Out your grandmama house,

788
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: nigga stopped that. We become other people because we're trying

789
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: to impress folks. Bro, I don't ever want to do that, Shannon.

790
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't ever. I want to give the message. I

791
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: want to give God's message. It's God's responsibility to judge you. Now,

792
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: if you do something to me, I'm gonna have to

793
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: get your ass off.

794
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: You're funny that you said that. You said that people judge.

795
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: My grandfather said that very same thing. He said, boy,

796
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: if you're not careful, you'll become the very thing you

797
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: despise the most of the merson. If you hate a lie,

798
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: if you're not careful, you'll become one. If you hate

799
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: a thief, you'll become one. Write a book, Doug, you

800
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm serious?

801
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: That shit that's simple?

802
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: Ship?

803
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: Is that not bombs?

804
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 3: Though?

805
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: Look at everybody every time you say some shit.

806
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: My sister like Shaun it out, but I swore to

807
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: my sister, I would never because everybody's always said that.

808
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: But you know at the time, no, but no, no

809
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: finish that though you tell your sisters.

810
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: I told my sister because everybody tell my sister to

811
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: say Shannon always saying things that your grandfather, your grandmother,

812
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: like you know, miss Mayor and mister Barney would tell him.

813
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I was eight years old my

814
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: grandfather passed. But I can tell you everything you never

815
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: said to my friends. I was forty three when my

816
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: grandmother passed, and I can tell you every time she've

817
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: been upset at me. And I hung on everything that

818
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: they said. They didn't know it at the time, but

819
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: I worshiped, I idolized. I didn't know the idolatry. You know,

820
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: you weren' supposed to do that, but for them to

821
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: take raise their nine kid and then takes my mom's

822
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: three and loved them more than they did their own.

823
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: So I hung on everything they said. But I always

824
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: told my sister, and she said, Shay, I'm please, don't.

825
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: I told my.

826
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Sister I wouldn't because I part of me. I wouldn't

827
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: write a book.

828
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: Why not? I wouldn't write a book, but why not.

829
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: But listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. There are some things

830
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: that she probably she's still alive, yeah, but so talk

831
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 2: to her. I'm only telling you to give the wisdom, yeah,

832
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: because I know I know from where we're from. Oh yeah,

833
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: we got oh bro. But I will tell you this though, Bro,

834
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: there certain things that happen in the South that I

835
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: don't think that we should talk about on camera. But

836
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: we definitely got to get in a room and talk

837
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: about because that's the reason why we keep malfunctioning, because

838
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: we won't talk about those things. And I say that

839
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: with white folks, we got to have those young white

840
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: people who really want to make this a better place,

841
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: this America that y'all say that y'all want. We gotta

842
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: have some uncomfortable conversations. And that's what I didn't finish

843
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: the last statement. That's the thing that people don't understand

844
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: about our music is people want our music. They want

845
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: the blues, they want the rap, but they don't want

846
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: the pain and the responsibility that comes along with it.

847
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: That's what the blues is that the people was talking

848
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: about the pain and the hurt that they had experienced.

849
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: But I read this, and.

850
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: This brought back so many memories because my grandfather had

851
00:44:53,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: one the bullwhip. Actually, see had that beat with a

852
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: bull whip. My grandfather called it a full pat whip

853
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: or coach whip. And people don't understand. I mean, you

854
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: see the cowboys in there, that shit look funny. Yeah, yeah,

855
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: it a It's not much on this earth that hurts

856
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 1: worse than the bull Yeah, And that was one.

857
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: Of the things that made me and my dad closer once.

858
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 2: Agin Like, I thought my dad was the meanest person

859
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: on this planet.

860
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: I really did.

861
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: I didn't like my dad bro until I was twenty three.

862
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: I didn't like them, and I thought he was so

863
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: hard on me. But in comparison to what he went through, yeah,

864
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: he was soft on me. So in his head he thought,

865
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: yeah he was, and he actually was. But see, people

866
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: can't register like all the slave movies that you think

867
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: you saw, slavery wasn't nothing like that. It was thirty

868
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: times worse than any movie that you've ever seen. Yeah,

869
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: and we've never had therapy shunning, No, and that trauma

870
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: just got paid through generations and so man for us

871
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: to even be here to and you know, that from

872
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: an epigenetic standpoint, Bro, we still suffer from what our

873
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: great great grandparents, the stuff that Jewish people have gone through,

874
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: Native Americans have gone through, Black people have gone through, Bro,

875
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: that stuff. We're still clicking, Bro, We're still tripping. It's funny.

876
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: My mom said that. My mom said that she don't

877
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: want me to drink. She said that I was a

878
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: drunk when you were born. She says, so much alcohol

879
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: in my blood from my family. I don't need to

880
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: take one drink. Sorry, Mom, good and everything else. But

881
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: were you a good student? Were you good in school?

882
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: That's that's a strange question. I'll tell you why. Honestly,

883
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: I was near a genius growing up. Really, you're gonna

884
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: laugh at this, Shannon, but it's the truth. People talk

885
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: about how smart I am now just catching up to

886
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: where I was when I was in kindergarten. I ain't

887
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: really never had to work hard like this. Ain't shit

888
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: shit easy to.

889
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Me, Bro.

890
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: I talk about this all the time. I read on

891
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: a junior in college level. When I was in the

892
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: third grade, I could count to a million. When I

893
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: was in kindergarten. The only reason we had a counting contest,

894
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: I counted all day. The only reason why I messed

895
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: up is because everybody else was outside playing and I

896
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 2: wanted to go outside. So I was like a million

897
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: in one, a million in two, a million in twelve

898
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: because I wanted to go outside. Everybody else had already

899
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: been outside for three four five hours, Right, Shannon, this

900
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: is very personal to me.

901
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: I think I've only said this in maybe one or

902
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: two interviews.

903
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: But when I was young, I used to have anxiety

904
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: attacks about existing forever. I wasn't scared of the devil.

905
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't scared of good or bad or Dracula, the

906
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: things other kids were scared of. I was scared of,

907
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: like existing and never cutting off. That's still think about.

908
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to put that on y'all. Maybe that

909
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: was too heavy for this medium, but like Bro, my

910
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: mind has always been and that's why I understand do

911
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: you sleep well? I just started not well because if

912
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: you don't turn if you can't turn your mind off.

913
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: Look as you know that.

914
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: That's the reason why I understand Wayne. I understand part

915
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: needing to smoke cigarettes. Bro. I understand that, like Bro,

916
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: like it's impossible not to be angry. It's not a possible.

917
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: It's impossible to not be afraid. Like, Bro, I'm just

918
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something, and I don't want to put

919
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: this on your show, like brod know what they got

920
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: out for us. I just got back from Columbia from

921
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: doing themselves shout out the bio X rampage, the UFC

922
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: fighter hit me to it, Bro. To know what they're

923
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: doing to our bodies, Bro, to understand that man, and

924
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: to be able to read and spiritually really know God

925
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: in a way that most Black people. I can't even

926
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: talk to him about it. Bro. That's a lonely place

927
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: to be. That was the reason why I decided when

928
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: I came on here, Bro, I wanted to come. I

929
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: was a man of comfort, not judging. Again, Like I

930
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 2: told you, I don't agree with everything, Bro.

931
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: That ain't my place.

932
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: But what I do know is, Bro, some of the

933
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: things that you've done, Bro, it's gonna take generations for

934
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: people to catch up. But we can't lose you, good

935
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: or bad. The shit other shit we can fix off camera. Bro.

936
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: We got to figure out a way, man to be

937
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: loving to each other. And we can't ask these kids

938
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: to stop and loving each other. We can't find a

939
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: common ground to agree see one of the things. And

940
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: I know a lot of Christians is gonna get mad

941
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: at me, but I'm gonna tell you this, just like

942
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: Santa Claus exists, all right, kids, I don't think that

943
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: there's one way to heaven, really, I don't. God is everything,

944
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: and they teach us to have fear, just like I

945
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: don't believe in the devil. No devil, You the devil.

946
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: The reason why they give you is something exterior, So

947
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: you will never fix you. If you keep blaming on

948
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: the devil, you gonna fix your black ass. You the problem,

949
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: go fix you. If you didn't make the team and

950
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 2: the devil didn't do it, you didn't do your reps,

951
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: you didn't stay in the gym. That ain't the devil,

952
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: that's you. But they tell you the devil, so you

953
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: will never fix the devil in your black ass. And

954
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: if you really believe in God and think that God

955
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: is omnipotent, how you put anything next to God? If

956
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: God created the devil, you shouldn't even put the devil

957
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: in the same conversation. But I know that our people can't,

958
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: like our mothers, can't digest that. But that's what I

959
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: got to sit with Bro in my mind. That's where

960
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: my life is so crazy.

961
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: Bro.

962
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: And me being from the South, it was hard for

963
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: me to explain. Like my mind was moving faster than

964
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: my lips could, and I had the Southern draw. I

965
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: couldn't say the shit as eloquent as the did, but

966
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: I knew. I knew the truth, Bro, and I gotta

967
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: sit with that shit. I'm let me get another drink.

968
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm serious. That ain't easy to deal with.

969
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: You say you don't believe in the devil, But in Job,

970
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: in the Book of Job, where he's telling the story

971
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: about Job, do you not believe that the devil told

972
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: God to say the reason why Jo Job is so

973
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: faithful and so loyal and so serving to you, like.

974
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: You give him everything. Yeah, my home, my uncle told

975
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: my cousin, you see that badass brought over there. I

976
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: know you got a mother wife, man, but look at

977
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: that big You need to get on that. Ain't that

978
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: the same thing? You can have a mother fuckers sitting

979
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: on the side talking shit, But you gotta make the decision.

980
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: Nobody make you do nothing. If somebody made you do it,

981
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: then it shouldn't be no. Hell, That's why I don't

982
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: believe that things are destined to be. If I'm destined

983
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: to be a thug, gas while I'm going to hell,

984
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: you predestined that. No, I made a choice. You got

985
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: two brothers that was raised the same exact way. One

986
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: end up being a maniac and other end up being

987
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: one of the best persons in life. We make a choice.

988
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: You always have two ways to look at things, Bro,

989
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: And I'm serious, man. That's why I believe what we

990
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: are going through in America is a choice. I really

991
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: believe that God wants us to be better. The only

992
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: way for you to be refined is through pain.

993
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: Bro.

994
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: You have made it. You don't have to train the

995
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: way that you train, but you understand there is a

996
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: direct connection and correlation between pain and freedom. Bro. I

997
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: wake up every morning people say I'm crazy. I train

998
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: like I'm a football player, Bro, because I know the

999
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 2: freedom that comes along on the other side of that, Bro. Right,

1000
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: and I understand. Bro, if it go down to if

1001
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: it come down to a Shannon after telling your eyes, Bro,

1002
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: you wouldn't like it because you're a little spoiled now.

1003
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: But if it came back to it with your big ass, Bro,

1004
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: you get on the trade tracks. And beat that railroad

1005
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: to them. Get straight if you.

1006
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: Got to eat, Yeah, for sure, you ain't got no

1007
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: problem with you. We're blessed, bro, actually free right? You

1008
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: worked that Kroger?

1009
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 2: How you hold on? You work that Kroger instead of mixtape.

1010
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: So you're like, hey, you know you put the jar,

1011
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: you put the heavy stuff on the bottom, You put

1012
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: the eggs of the bread on top so it didn't

1013
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: get squashed.

1014
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: So you that sovering me up a little bit. Yeah,

1015
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: you're doing some reason. Shut it shut well. I just

1016
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 2: don't get it. Did damn it.

1017
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: I've got to figure out how you how you taking

1018
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: the bag to the car selling mixtapes in the same.

1019
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: All right, that's product. Let me calm down, all right,

1020
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: Shannon was crazy, Bro. They could never understand why I

1021
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 2: didn't want to what's the people that check you out cash?

1022
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: They didn't understand why I wanted to be a why

1023
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be a cashier. You couldn't bash,

1024
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: you couldn't trash your mix tape. I was making so

1025
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: much money, dude, I'm telling I was killing them, bro,

1026
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: and Bro that that's again, man. And I'm talking to

1027
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: these kids to show you how spoiled.

1028
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: You get man.

1029
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: I used to clock I used to clock in and

1030
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: go home. I was so cocky, Brun. I had the

1031
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 2: perfect job, Bro, and I knew that they I unders

1032
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 2: I understood the hustle. I stunded, I studied the hustle,

1033
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: and I just slipped up. We had the hustle and

1034
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: slipped up. You feel me, And that's the same thing

1035
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: I did, Bro, and I ended up getting fired, and

1036
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: I had the blessing right there for me. Bro. Bro,

1037
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this. This is something I never

1038
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 2: said on nobody else's show before.

1039
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1040
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: Like I remember, my parents got behind on their mortgage, Man,

1041
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: and the only thing I ever cared about in life

1042
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: is getting a pair of ja's. I give me a

1043
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: pair of j's. I put the rest of it in

1044
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: the bank, Bro, and I had enough money, you know, early, Bro,

1045
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: without selling dope, without disgrace in my family's name, Bro,

1046
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: to be able to help my parents get out a

1047
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: pair of financial pail and Bro, my father, being as

1048
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: tough as he he didn't even want to take it.

1049
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: Man.

1050
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 2: I could now that I know, and I'm a man,

1051
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 2: what that put him through to have to take that

1052
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: from his son. Bro, But the fact that I was

1053
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: able to do it man from music, come on man

1054
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: in mississis yeah, Man, I thank God man, and I Shannon,

1055
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: I know that people don't understand me, and I really

1056
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: believe man, And do you want people to understand you?

1057
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to pay me. I'm serious, Shannon. I want

1058
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: the same thing you get in white folks. I want

1059
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: your money and your attention. I want your flowers. I

1060
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: don't like flowers. I want your money and your attention.

1061
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: That's it. Think about this. I asked a group of

1062
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: black people one time if they thought I was the

1063
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: antithesis of Trump, and they told me yeah. I said,

1064
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: then why don't you take care of me like white

1065
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: folks take care of Trump. The reason why kids don't

1066
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: want to be king is because you let them kill

1067
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: the last That's why kids don't want to be upstanding gentlemen.

1068
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: We got to start paying upstanding gentlemen. So that's one

1069
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: of the reasons why Bro, no boy shit, I'm gonna

1070
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: just get this to you because I feel comfortable and

1071
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: I put you in a position of vulnerability, and I

1072
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: have to do the same if I'm.

1073
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: A real man, right.

1074
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: Man. The reason why I do most of the stuff

1075
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: that I do. Like, Bro, i'ma be honest with you man.

1076
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I got a lot of money, bro, But this dreary

1077
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: and all this.

1078
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: Shit the same me. But I noticed what these kids like.

1079
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: So if I am a conscious black man, oh you

1080
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: could be fly. Oh you can make money being conscious,

1081
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: then maybe I consider it. David Oh daved batter driver

1082
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: for Rari. Oh, I didn't know you them two things

1083
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: with together. America has marketed being a revolutionary with death

1084
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: and pain and suffering. Correct, I'm changing that, bro, Killer

1085
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: Mic is changing that. Bro t I is changing that.

1086
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: Bro.

1087
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So like for me to

1088
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: be in a position bro to do that, Bro, I'm honored.

1089
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: Hear you talk. Now, you leave high school, you go

1090
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: to Southern University in mat Rouge. Was it all? What

1091
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: was it?

1092
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: You don't like to term for ordained? But did you

1093
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: always know you wanted to go to an HBC? You

1094
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: what led you to an HBC?

1095
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: You? I never wanted to go to college, Okay my mother.

1096
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: My dad was a country dude. Like I said, he

1097
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: ain't give fucked by that rap shit. Boy, you need

1098
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: to go work in a bank. My dad was not

1099
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: playing but let me tell you about my dad. I

1100
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: got a seventy thousand dollars check from Southwest Distribution in Texas.

1101
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: And my dad saw that check and he looked at

1102
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: me and say, I don't have noise. You be making

1103
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: back you get paid that much money. I'm not born shit,

1104
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: you're saying. I'm Dad serious, look at me when I

1105
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: say this. He said, that's what you get from that?

1106
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: My dad? You and he don't say the word.

1107
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: My dad say why you.

1108
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: Ain't side rapping now? Why are you are outside wrapping

1109
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: right now?

1110
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: Rap?

1111
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: No? No, he was Dad, Syria, He's like rap right now.

1112
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: And what that taught me is that our parents did

1113
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: the best with what they had, and as they learned more,

1114
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: they wanted to, Oh, you make that much money playing football? Go, Yes,

1115
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: I want you to go. And they're only dealing with

1116
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: what they deal with. You know what I'm saying, right,

1117
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: But what was the question? I forgot the question? Hb

1118
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: led you to an HBCU. You didn't want to go

1119
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: to college? No, I didn't want to call it. I remember,

1120
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: but my mom used to put up her house and

1121
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: ship for talent shows. And again my mom like man,

1122
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: rap wasn't promised, especially people in the South at the time.

1123
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: So for my mama to do that, she sat down

1124
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: and she asked me, She said, do you think that

1125
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 2: your talent is original? And I said, yes, ma'am. She said,

1126
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: we'll be original in four years there in college. You

1127
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: walked you into that way. She knew I was a

1128
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: smart Yeah, yes, she had to put it in a way.

1129
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: But but but seriously, though I did it. I did

1130
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: it for my mom. And what's crazy was bro, Like,

1131
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: I never studied until because I was so smart until statistics.

1132
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: And I had a friend named Bud's. His name is

1133
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Chicago gang banger. He taught me statistics by smoking

1134
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: weed in his car, and so that was the first

1135
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: time I ever had to study because statistics just didn't

1136
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: come easily. Everything else came easily for me for for

1137
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: some reason, statistics didn't. But my mom, Man, my mom

1138
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: asked me, She's like, Billy, this is the only thing

1139
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: that I asked you to do. And I did it

1140
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: for him. Man, And I'm Shannon.

1141
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: I ain't lying, Bro.

1142
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm so proud because show you how God works. The

1143
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: leader that you see in me that came from Southern Bro.

1144
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: I have accomplished so much, made millions and millions of dollars,

1145
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: but being SGA president at Southern University because I never

1146
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: believed in politics. I thought politics was some bullshit. And

1147
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: what I end up learning is that power will never

1148
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: invest in poor people unless poor people invest in power. See,

1149
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 2: what we don't understand in the community that we're from

1150
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: is that you have to invest with your money in politics.

1151
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: You gotta buy these politicians and Shannon, they say and

1152
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: on you. You stay away from this shit that David

1153
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: Banner talk this shit. Okay, man, these politicians are bult bro.

1154
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: So unless you buy them the same way these pharmaceutical

1155
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: companies buying, they ain't gonna never do shit for you.

1156
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: Just like I'm gonna take this opportunity to tell you

1157
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: I found out, man, most of these lawyers that we

1158
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: invest in them lawyers work for them signed companies. We

1159
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: can't pay our lawyers, but two three, four five thousand

1160
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: dollars them companies, them companies get them lawyers hundreds of

1161
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: thous dollars and then make us feel like they're doing

1162
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: something for us the same like yeah, no, I'm serious.

1163
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: They need to hear this, Like the cool thing about

1164
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: me and The cool thing that we being from the

1165
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: country is that we got to go back to the

1166
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: country and the way that we did.

1167
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: We can deal with that.

1168
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Most other people would break right Like, Bro, if I

1169
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: think that's a sellout to me, man, Like I've been

1170
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: blessed to see things and other people Shannon, This went

1171
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: really viral, bro, Like, I really believe that not all people.

1172
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: I think some black people don't want to free the slaves.

1173
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: They want their chance to hold a whip. I want

1174
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: to free my people. I'm gonna tell you something, Bro,

1175
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna mess.

1176
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: Your head up.

1177
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: But I could be especially as a Southerner, I could

1178
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: be one of the richest people in southern rap if

1179
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: I signed artists. How You'll noticed I never put an

1180
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: artist out, really never. You want to know why. Why?

1181
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: Because the music game is predicated and built on signing

1182
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: and as many artists as you can and throwing up

1183
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: against the wall. I care about people, Bro. I want

1184
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: to sign nobody if I know I can't help your family.

1185
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: This shit up, Bro, And it don't matter how talented

1186
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: you are. It's about time. It's about luck, it's about money,

1187
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: it's about opportunity, it's about where the markets are. It's

1188
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: so many things that you cannot control, bro And I

1189
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: don't want to do that to people. I'd rather teach

1190
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: you how to fish, and you get your own shit right.

1191
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: You lead that?

1192
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: So how were you when you left? I guess you

1193
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: left after college and went to New York? How were

1194
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: you then.

1195
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: Twenty two twenty three? Around that my uncle Swack. You're

1196
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: gonna like this story, man, my uncle Swat, But I

1197
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: can't tell you now because I said his name, my

1198
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: uncle Swack. Let's just say I went to New York.

1199
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know that there was a firearm long in

1200
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: New York. I took a pistol to New York with me.

1201
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: That's all that. My uncle didn't have money to give

1202
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: me nothing. My mom gave me as much money as

1203
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: she had in her bank account. And I moved to

1204
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: New York homeless. That's why, like a lot of people

1205
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: think that on cocky, But most of them can't tell

1206
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: me nothing about rap. Most of these white folks can't

1207
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: tell me about rap.

1208
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: Man.

1209
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: I put everything in my life ignorantly, and bro I

1210
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: went to New York homeless. I'd never been to New

1211
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: York in my life. Bro I slept on the floor

1212
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: and my uncle gave me a pistol. And the day

1213
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: that I realized I didn't need a pistol. The day

1214
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: after that, I was with John fort A. I don't

1215
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: know if y'all know who John Forte is, but we

1216
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: ended up getting shut down by the Fares. Bro. If

1217
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: I would have had that pistol one more day, I

1218
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: may still be in prison right now.

1219
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: Dog.

1220
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: That's how I know that God is with me. Bro.

1221
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: I've been through so oh so so much, Bro, and

1222
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: so like when people say and do things to me,

1223
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: shinning it don't it don't fade me. I just what

1224
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you, what I was trying to tell

1225
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: you earlier, though, Bro. Is I really think I was

1226
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: supposed to have been in physics or something.

1227
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: Bro.

1228
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: I really think sometimes my talent is being wasted with

1229
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: rap entertainment. Bro. I really think I could do something

1230
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: to help the earth. I really think I'm that type

1231
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: of person. I'm that type of thinker, Bro. But we

1232
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 2: didn't have access to that in the places where we're from.

1233
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: You don't think you're helping out by your words and

1234
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: what you're doing your platform that you have it, you could.

1235
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: Possibly have asked Bob Marley that and I'm not saying

1236
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: that I'm Bob Marley. I'm not saying that Jimmy Hendrix

1237
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: he Bro, I know Malcolm. There's only one person that

1238
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: I've I met in my life who I think know

1239
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: who they are. Tip to y'all is the only person

1240
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: that know who he is. But most of us Pop

1241
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: didn't know Pop was Pop, right, Nipsey didn't know that

1242
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: Nipsey was Nipsy. Bro And so man like it's cool,

1243
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: but like, Bro, I'm serious, Bro, I see things in

1244
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: a way that's so clear to me, and I don't

1245
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: even expect humans to understand. Man, but like man like

1246
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: to not like the difference between me and most entertainers brods.

1247
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: I always wanted to be married. I always wanted to

1248
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 2: have a big family from the country, bro. But I

1249
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: never like if you look at everything in the Bible,

1250
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: everything in the Qoran, everything in the in the tour,

1251
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: for the most part, it's about what you're willing to sacrifice. Yes,

1252
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: my sacrifice is a huge part. So sacrifice, not having

1253
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: a family, not having a wife, the loneliness that we

1254
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: go through, and so we drink some of the greatest

1255
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: Kanyak I've tasted in history, the award winnings. Talk that ship. Dog,

1256
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: see that smile, I got in the smile. Must pay

1257
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: for them teeth. We need to smile again dog. Apparently whites?

1258
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: Then I know you trust to show them damn teeth.

1259
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: There used to be crooked. Then there was a couple

1260
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: of missing on the same That's all. Yeah, we got it.

1261
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: You signed a ten million dollar deal with Universal? What

1262
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: what would the I mean? Look, we have a very

1263
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: similar background. You grew up in Mississippi. I grew up

1264
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: in Rule South Georgia. Man, boy, I just woo man,

1265
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: if I ever get me some money, I want a

1266
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: house with running water, indoor plumbing, and air condition Who

1267
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: that showed be nice?

1268
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: Whi's first thing you got with that money?

1269
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: All right?

1270
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: So get ready now you got y'all have some tissue,

1271
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: all right? So I never told this full story before. Man,

1272
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: my mom, imagine becoming conscious in eleventh grade and realizing

1273
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: the person that you love the most on this planet,

1274
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: which was my grandmother.

1275
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody on this earth I love like my grandmother.

1276
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: I know the feeling.

1277
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: Man, my grandma. She spent more time with them white folks,

1278
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: raising them white folks so she could feed us. Didn't

1279
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: she ain't never say a man on me.

1280
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: But what my grandmother did say, and I'm man enough

1281
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: to say it on camera. Once I got conscious, I

1282
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: went to my grandma, like, I don't like that.

1283
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Grandma.

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Speaker 2: She said, one thing I.

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Speaker 1: Can tell you is my white folks show up when

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Speaker 1: I call him m M. And I'm a great debate bro.

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Speaker 2: I debated with Congress and one they literally wiped me

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Speaker 2: off the internet. Look up David Bowner debates Congress and

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Speaker 2: you'll see fuzzz. They wiped me off. I wiped them, bro,

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Speaker 2: because they wasn't expecting a black man who does research.

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Speaker 2: They thought they was gonna get an emotional nigga, and

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Speaker 2: they got a very articulate black man. I out debated

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Speaker 2: Congress about our First Amendment rights. A lot of these

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Speaker 2: rappers don't know. I'm probably the reason why you still

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Speaker 2: can rap. But anyway, my grandmother man, and Bro, I

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Speaker 2: was able to get that deal. And my grandmother's stubborn. Bro,

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Speaker 2: you know how grandfriend. So my grandmother would go to

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Speaker 2: Chicago every summer. So I prefabricated a house and I

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Speaker 2: told my grandmother's house now, and I built her because

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Speaker 2: I know she wouldn't move. I built a brand new

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Speaker 2: house in the same spot. Wow, bro Like, that was

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest things in my life. And then

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Speaker 2: my grandmother, Man, this is very funny. My grandmother she

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Speaker 2: had a you know, one of her one of her friends,

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Speaker 2: had got out of Mississippi and became a judge. She

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Speaker 2: was talking to my mama ended up moving in to

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Speaker 2: be able to take care of her. My mom said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: my grandson bought me a brand new house and his

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Speaker 2: mama my maid. Bro, I was Shannon, I'm serious, bro, Like,

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Speaker 2: as as much as we get into that other ship, bro,

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Speaker 2: I don't nothing to feel like that. Bro. I showed

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Speaker 2: I showed my grandmother's freedom. They don't you know, man,

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Speaker 2: and and and my grandma mother died happy and it

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Speaker 2: was probably one of the most suppressed people in Mississippi.

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Speaker 2: And she died with a smile on her face. And

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Speaker 2: I got all this money and I ain't happy. Worse

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Speaker 2: shit I am now. But you know, I'm just saying right.

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Speaker 2: But I think the thing is that, like, what money,

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Speaker 2: what do you do it for? When what you did

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Speaker 2: it to achieve this? To get my grandmother out of

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Speaker 2: that situation. My thing was a little bit different though, Shannon, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm a revolutionary, Bro, I am. I always did it

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Speaker 2: for Mississippi, but revolutionary didn't make no money day. But

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Speaker 2: the thing is is that I'm sexy in most of them.

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Speaker 2: What can I do? No seriously those But like, Bro,

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Speaker 2: like I think where people get it wrong with God

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Speaker 2: is God give you pain to refine you. I always

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Speaker 2: say this, Bro, if God is pushing your face, oh,

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Speaker 2: God is saying his son go this way. So like

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Speaker 2: I saw what happened, I just adjust. People get upset

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Speaker 2: with me because I live a great life. Is because

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Speaker 2: I'm obediot. God gave me the plan. I ain't gotta

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Speaker 2: be man, run my mouth like shilnon. Like if you notice, bro,

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Speaker 2: most people think this is when you should talk the most.

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Speaker 2: You know this. You don't really hear me no more

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Speaker 2: because it's happening to us. Now we need to be

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Speaker 2: doing something like we need to be doing the work, man.

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Speaker 2: And now I just realized, man with me being blessed

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Speaker 2: to do movies and television. Man, like I had a

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Speaker 2: conversation with Samuel or Jackson. Man, it changed my life. Bro.

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Speaker 2: We did fight night and I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: still is, but it was the most viewed show in

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Speaker 2: Peacock history. And what people don't understand was that when

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Speaker 2: I first met Samuel L. Jackson, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 2: the bridge story. It's a real person, so you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to open up some more. People don't remember that

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Speaker 2: I did Black Stek Mom with Samuel Jackson. Okay, if

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Speaker 2: y'all remember, that's when Samuel Jackson was telling was mad

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Speaker 2: because rappers. He felt like some rappers were getting jobs

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Speaker 2: over the real actors that they didn't deserve. Right and Bro,

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Speaker 2: we showed up in Memphis. We were doing the table

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Speaker 2: read in front of everybody. Bro again, I was a maniac.

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Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson said, who's your acting coach and pointed at me.

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Speaker 1: I told him.

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Speaker 2: He said fire, they suck, Bro. So much anger came

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Speaker 2: over me and I was embarrassed, but something in my

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Speaker 2: spirit said asked him this. I said, sir, if I'm

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Speaker 2: so bad, and would you be my acting coach? Samuel

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Speaker 2: Jackson a humble rapper, me me and my house next week?

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Speaker 2: So I met him at his apartment. Bro We trained

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Speaker 2: and then he was like about a week later. Two

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Speaker 2: weeks they said, I gotta go to New York now, Shannon,

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Speaker 2: I know your staff may not want to hear this.

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Speaker 2: I then flew to Paris mm hmm for less. Let's say,

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Speaker 2: there ain't no way in the hell I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: be at New York for seven year old Jackson to

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Speaker 2: teach me how to be a better actor. Said sir,

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Speaker 2: what's that address? He said? You serious? Hell yeah, Samuel Jackson, coach,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna Samuel Jackson said, You're gonna be all right, Son,

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Speaker 2: But you ain't got to come to New York.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna be allright? You now serious, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 2: So? Yeah, you know? And so this story is so great.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember where I was? Where am I?

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Speaker 2: What was the question?

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Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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Speaker 1: is also posted, and you can access it to whichever

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Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

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Speaker 1: simply go back to Club Sha profile and I'll see

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Speaker 1: you there.