1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to Tommy Talk, a new weekly series 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: that is part of my I've Never Said This Before 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: podcast where I am talking about things and I've never 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: really publicly talked about before. And today's topic is should 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: you unfollow someone or just mute them? On Instagram? Let 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: me say that again, because this is a big one. 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Should you unfollow someone or just mute somebody on Instagram? 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: I feel like the unfollow and the mute are two 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: of the modern day disses of the year. Like, it 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: is so triggering to somebody if they realize they've gotten 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: an unfollow, to the point where it can come up 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: in like a fight with a friend or a fight 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: with somebody else, or you might get a random rogue 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: DM saying why did you unfollow me? Like it is 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: considered so highly insulting for some reason. And the mute 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: is also kind of becoming now new unfollow in terms 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: of the level of how insulting that can be. I 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: assume everybody knows what this means. Who's listening, But if 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: you don't. On Instagram, when you're following somebody and you 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: consciously choose to unfollow them so they no longer are 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: shown in your feeds and you don't see their stuff. 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: That's the unfollow And the mute is when you go 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: to somebody's profile and mute all of their posts or 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: story so that you are following them, but you don't 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: have to see their stuff anymore. And these two things, man, man, 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: are they triggering? Like I know people who've gotten a 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: massive blowout fights over this who aren't friends anymore because 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: of this. 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: It is super, super. 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Super intense to be on the receiving end for some 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: people of an unfollow or a mute. My theory is, 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: if you unfollow me whatever, I'm gonna unfollow you, like 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: I don't care. 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Maybe like we met a long time ago, you don't 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: want to see my content. 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: It's all good, and it's fine. I don't need to 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: follow you. 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes I wait for that to happen and then I 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: can unfollow somebody because I always feel bad being the 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: one to do that. 42 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: But you know, should you unfollow our mute? 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: This is a very interesting topic because it does cause 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: a lot of drama for people in their lives. And 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: I have a few rules when it comes to this 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: to hopefully give you as peaceful as as peaceful of 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: a social media life as possible. 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: So let's start with the unfollow. 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: I highly recommend unfollowing someone only only only if their 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: content is truly not aligning with who you are as 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: a human, as a brand, as an ally to a 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: community you champion. Like if somebody is posting stuff that 53 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: is just so out of sync with who you are, 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: or you notice somebody is turning into that person who 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: never was that person before, fair game to unfollow, Like 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: fair game. You know they don't align with you, goodbye. 57 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: You don't need that toxic, weird energy in your life, 58 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: like it's totally good. Or is there a celebrity that 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: just constantly makes you feel not great about yourself because 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: they're posting the naked all the time, or you know, 61 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: lavish luxurious lifestyles, which, by the way, rock on post 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: yourself naked, post your luxurious lifestyle. But if it's it's 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: triggering something in you, it's okay, unfollow them, like that's 64 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: all fair game. I don't see a problem with that. 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't necessarily unfollow somebody that is constantly going 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: to be in your orbit or in your world, because 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: that could make for a really awkward exchange because people 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: notice somehow they keep track of all of this and 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: people get really really offended, and that's where the mute 70 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: comes in. So the mute is really great. Like I 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: will admit I have muted some people that I'm not 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: super close to anymore. But I don't want to be 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: dramatic and do an unfollow because that just feels a 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: little harsh. So I mute them so I don't have 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: to see their content. 76 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: And it's great. It just is great. 77 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: The mute button's amazing because it allows you to really 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: curate who you want to see on your social media 79 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: pages and who you don't want to see, which is 80 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: more important, I think. But I like the mute because 81 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: if it's a Collie or somebody in your work world, 82 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: for example, you might not want to see all their stuff, 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: but for some reason, your friends are connected on Instagram 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: and you're you have that connection already. You don't want 85 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: to unfollow them because you're going to see them a 86 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: lot and they're in your work world, So just mute 87 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: them if you don't want to see their stuff. It's okay, 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: totally okay to do that. I also think that if 89 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: it's a former friend you no longer really have much 90 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: of a relationship with. You can either do the mute 91 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: because maybe you're on civil terms, but you're just not 92 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: as close as you used to being. You don't want 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: to be like the dramatic crazy one that did the unfollow, 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: So a mute is great. But if it's someone who 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: really like crashed and burned your relationship and you're not 96 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: going to see them again and you feel totally confident 97 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: about that, then an unfollow it is okay in that 98 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: regard to But know that once you do the unfollow, 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: that is something considered to so many people as the 100 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: final the final straw in breaking the camel's back and 101 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: ending a relationship. Like you cannot come back from an 102 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: unfollow very easily. You just can't because people get that 103 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: twisted and bent out of shape about it. They see 104 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: it as so offensive. So just know if that is 105 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: a very powerful thing, and if it's noticed by the 106 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: other party, that it could cause a lot of drama 107 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: and sever a relationship entirely. Which is so crazy to 108 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: think that like social media things like that can actually. 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: Do that, but it's true, It really is true. 110 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: Because you were sending the message to somebody, I don't 111 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: want you in my life. I don't want you in 112 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: my orbit. I don't want to see what you're doing, 113 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: and I don't care what you're doing. That is when 114 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: an unfollow sends. So it sounds a little harsh, but 115 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: it sounds a very very powerful message. Now I feel 116 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: like the mute button is slowly becoming as offensive to 117 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: people as the unfollow, And I feel like the mute 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: button's becoming a little bit more of a trigger because 119 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: it's as if you're lying to somebody you're It's as 120 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: if you're saying, I, oh, yeah, I follow you, I 121 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: like your stuff, but you really don't, and you really 122 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: don't want to see what they're doing, and you don't 123 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: want to engage with their content, and you don't want 124 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: to like it and comment and you know, cheer for 125 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: them from the sidelines. Like it's it's basically saying, I'm 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna sneakily make you think that I care about what 127 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: you're doing on social media, but I really don't, so 128 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna mute you so you think I care. 129 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's why people are getting really triggered 130 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: and offended by the mute. I'm starting to have this 131 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: mentality of if you're somebody I want to mute, Then 132 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: why do I even follow you? Like why play games? 133 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Why not just have an honest kind of social media 134 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: relationship with people and be like, look, I don't want 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: to see your stuff, so maybe I shouldn't follow you that. 136 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: But the truth is that comes across so harsh to 137 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: so many people. So unfortunately you can't do that. I'm 138 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: just saying that's how I would react if people didn't 139 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: react in a certain way. I don't get offended if 140 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: somebody wants to mute me, it's fine. Like, maybe there's 141 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: a reason you follow people on social media, right, Like 142 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: maybe you are struggling so hard to find a partner 143 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: and it's hard and you just want the love, And 144 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: maybe you don't want to see somebody with their partner 145 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: all the time because you're at a point in your 146 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: life where it's hard and triggering for you to see that. 147 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: I get it. 148 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: I understand that, Like, that's that's it's not easy trying 149 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: to find the one you want to be with. Like, So, 150 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: by all means, if seeing my relationship or glimpses into 151 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: that or somebody else's is a trigger for you, I'm 152 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: not offended by a mute or unfollowed, Like people have 153 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: to do what they have to do. I think the 154 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: bottom line for me with social media is I genuinely 155 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: want to be connected to people on my personal social 156 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: media accounts who A I'm either really friends with or 157 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: family with, like genuine relationships. B They are in my 158 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: work world and I see them and interact with them 159 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: enough in my work worlds to stay connected and keep 160 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: each other, you know, in updated into what we're doing 161 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: or see it's somebody I met along the way who 162 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: made a lasting impression who I want to stay in 163 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: touch with, Like we were just in Saint Bart's and 164 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: the captain of this beautiful sunset cruise we went on 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: on our final night was just a total Jen and 166 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: I loved her, and I'm like, oh my god, I 167 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: want to stay in touch with you and see your 168 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: amazing travels throughout the year. And we probably won't see 169 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: each other for maybe like four or five years if 170 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: we come back or if she's in New York, but 171 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: I just want to stay in touch because you made 172 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: such an impact on my life. Like those are the 173 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: vibes of the people that I genuinely want to follow. 174 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: If you're not bringing me joy, or you know somebody 175 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: I deal with regularly, or somebody in my work world's 176 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: what's the point? What's the point? But should you unfollow 177 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: someone or should you mute them? On Instagram? Here's How'm 178 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: going to break it down in a really simple way. 179 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Unfollow them. If it's toxic, if it affects your mood, 180 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: if it's someone you really have nothing to do with, 181 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: and if it's someone who doesn't align with your core values, 182 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: mute them. If they are going to be in your 183 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: orbital or in your worlds, put them on mute so 184 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: that you don't seem dramatic with an unfollowed Because guess what, 185 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: here's the good news. No one can ever prove that 186 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: you muted them. You could just be someone not active 187 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: engaging with their content. You can never prove it. You 188 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: can never prove it. So if all else fails, use 189 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: that mute button. And even if you're suspicious someone muted you, 190 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: you don't know for sure. So the mute is the win. 191 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: So go for the mute. If there're someone in your 192 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: orbit and you don't want the drama to be following 193 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: you going forward. Isn't it funny how social media can 194 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: be so impactful on how you view someone and how 195 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: somebody makes you feel. 196 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: Isn't that funny? 197 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: Like, isn't whoever thought that an unfollow or a mute 198 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: on social media could cause someone to totally spiral and 199 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: be in a worse mood than they were prior to 200 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: logging into social media. It's just hysterical. I guess I'm 201 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna end this with like, it's not that serious. So 202 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, while we can all 203 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of get caught up in it, it's just social media. 204 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: It's just a mute or an unfollow. 205 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: Who cares? Like, at the end of the day, who cares? 206 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: You know your people, you know your core, You know 207 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: the people that really matter to you and that you 208 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: call or text or have a relationship with. Who gives 209 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: a shit if somebody doesn't want to follow you or 210 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: look at your content? 211 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: It's okay, It's all good. It's not that deep. 212 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the baseline of this conversation isn't should you mute 213 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: them or should you unfollow them? While it is important 214 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: because it's the world we live in, but maybe it's 215 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: should we care as much? 216 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: Should we care? And I think the answer to that 217 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: is no, who cares? 218 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: Who cares. You know the people who are your rider dies. 219 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: You know who you want in your life, you know 220 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: who you don't want in your life. It's just an app. 221 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: It is just an app. Let's not take it so seriously. 222 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Let's not be all bent out of shape or offended. 223 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: I firmly believe that we have become deconditioned in our 224 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: lives to feel real emotions sometimes because of things like Instagram. 225 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: And while I love it, it's just an app. So 226 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: the next time you want to unfollow or mute someone, 227 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: power to you. But if it happens to you, let's 228 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: not get all upset about it. 229 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: It's all good. It's all good. 230 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: And then go call your real friends and go have 231 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: cocktails and dinner and go run around time and have 232 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: the best time ever because Instagram is Instagram. 233 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: Am. 234 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy 235 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: de Dario. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piblisi 236 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. 237 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis 238 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: Duran podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. 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