1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Thanks, take the child. We are the authority on all 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: things R and B. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Town. This is 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: the R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: things R and B. 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Yes, it is the Army Money podcast. What it is 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: you ful m? Yeah? 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: We tap into the new generation. Yeah, the new sign 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: a real way, the new gifts, new excellence. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have dreadlocks or something. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: You just see what I'm saying. 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, die you tips. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 3: Like like what the brother we got on here now 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: has been a superstar since he was. 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: A childress man, it's been victorious. He's been victorious as 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: a childster. 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Now he's an adult child, yes, the children and now 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: he's an adult yeh. 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: He kicking everybody else makes some doors with and so 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: what's so? 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was an amazing intro. By the way, thank 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 5: you man. 26 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate your next album. 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 5: I mean, if you can't. 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Listen, bro, First of all, thank you, thank you for 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: your time. You know what I mean. 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 6: We know you are working man, that's what we do 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 6: know man, But thank you so much for having me. 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 6: I've actually been watching the podcast. It's so fucking funny. 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate you, brother, and and you're we commend you, brother, 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: because you know, this is a tough place to grow 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: up in, absolutely a very tough place to grow up in. 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: And and from the first time we've crossed paths, like 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: you can tell that you were raised well. 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 5: Shout out to my mama. 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean, I just came from a 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 6: really amazing musical tribe that just surrounded me with and support. 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: I mean, it's funny. 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 6: I'm around a lot of artists and and and to 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 6: hear that sometimes that parents weren't supportive early on, you know, 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 6: it's kind of crazy to me because I don't know 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 6: a world that that that isn't that. And I feel 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 6: like really having God in my life too has really 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 6: helped just keeping smooth. 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: You know, with with with with that in that parental space. Right. 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think of it like this. 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: As as most of us may bee, I know, our 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: first generation to this place, you know what I mean, 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: And so our parents when you start talking about dreaming 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: of this kind of life, right, they're like, what are 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: you talking about. Walgreens has some openings right now, Walmart, 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 3: they're stalking boxes right now for twenty two dollars an hour. 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: There's no openings and artists, no artist, yeah, guarante opening. 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: There's an opening to be a superstar. 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: It just doesn't. And so we're pulling this out of 59 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: the air by big first generation. That dream sounds so. 60 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: In a real life crazy right to most people, you 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And the parents that you know 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: haveven lived the crazy lifestyle, they just don't get it 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: until they see it. And thank god, you know, you 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: were surrounded with parents and people who at least had 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: the music. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, to nurture 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: you and get you prepared. As a matter of fact, 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: let's start there. Let's go back to the beginning. 68 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: You know, it's crazy. 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 6: My grandfather just flew out yesterday and we were talking 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 6: about just this whole journey in music, and he started 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 6: naming names of people that he was around. He was 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 6: talking about cab Calalle, he was talking about Miles Davis, 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 6: you know, he was talking about Leonard Bernstein. You know, 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 6: I mean this guy, he was an amazing opera singer 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 6: in the nineteen sixties. 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 5: And to be black and to be. 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 6: Your grandfather, yeah, to be in that place he wasn't 78 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: in that place. Yeah, I was very special around that time, 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 6: John Anthony. Yeah. So, I mean every time he comes 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 6: into town, and even when I traveled to New York, 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 6: you know, I spend most of my time just asking questions. 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 6: I mean, how did he stay saying through all of 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 6: the different changes and and and even being in a 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 6: position where, you know, the civil rights movement was going on, 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 6: and and and genuinely having to kind of keep a 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 6: level head during so much climate, you know, just just 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 6: just a wild climate at that time, you. 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, because your reaction could at that time get 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: you killed. 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: It could get you straight killed. Yeah, So he was, Yeah, 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: he was in a place where I mean, of course 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: we know he belonged, but and I mean he was 93 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: working with the Poor People's March. And he was telling 94 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: me a story yesterday about how James Brown came through 95 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: to do a free concert in this tenth that they 96 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: set up, and that's just so cool to me, Like 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: he was really chopping it up with James Brown back 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: in the day, like you know, at his this because 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: I mean whenever he comes through and he's in my car, 100 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: I always like to play like some old school funky 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: you know, just kind. 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Of vibe out. 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, so so let's go back to the beginning 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: to where you know, you as all things that you are, right, 105 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: somebody was like, man, boy right them, I'm telling you, right, dad, 106 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: if it's gonna be something, or even when you said 107 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: to yourself, I think I think I got something special. 108 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 6: Well it it's a pretty crazy story because I was 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 6: ten years old and my mom, she's also a singer 110 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 6: as well, and you know, she was doing a really 111 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 6: cool show and took me to a rehearsal and her 112 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 6: friend was like, you should audition for the Lion King, 113 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 6: And that was my first ever audition. I went in 114 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 6: and you know, you should audition for the like well, 115 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 6: I mean I was just a charismatic kid, you know, 116 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 6: running around and it was a rehearsal, so I'm like 117 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 6: kind of humming and singing and just being you know, myself, 118 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 6: and you know, I ended up doing the audition, got 119 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 6: the first audition, and ended up doing Bray at ten 120 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 6: years old. And for me, like to go from just 121 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 6: being a regular kid to like, you know, starring on 122 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 6: Broadway in front of like four hundred people packed house 123 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 6: and seeing the reaction of of of the you know, 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 6: people in the crowd. I mean, you can kind of 125 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 6: see behind the lights, but for the most part, I 126 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 6: just remember seeing, you know, the front row and just 127 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 6: seeing the joy on people's faces. 128 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 5: That was the moment where I knew. I was like, Okay, 129 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: this is. 130 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 6: I was doing at that time four but I did 131 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 6: three Broadway plays in three years, so the other ones 132 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 6: I was doing, I was doing like eight shows a week, 133 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 6: and you know, once I kind of got into the 134 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 6: space of theater, it just made a lot of sense, 135 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 6: you know. 136 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: Shout out to Linda Twine. 137 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 6: She was a musical director for a lot of the 138 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 6: big plays at that time, and she went way back 139 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 6: with my grandfather too, so there was like a bit 140 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 6: of a family aspect to it. So it kind of 141 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 6: felt like fun. It was like a playground for me. 142 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 6: But Broadway is no joke. You got to you gotta 143 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 6: show up. You got to show out. 144 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: As well at this time or not. 145 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to school, I'm waking up. I'm 146 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: going to school. 147 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 6: Uh you know, I do my homework in the afternoon 148 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 6: and I'm you know, going backstage and I'm doing the show. 149 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 6: I'm waking up and doing it all over again. Sometimes 150 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: I would have a mattenee on Wednesday. I would get 151 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 6: a half day, got to do homework backstage. It was 152 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 6: pretty crazy. 153 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: I should have been homeschooled at that time, but I 154 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 5: was still in public school, just doing me. 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: So, so how is how is I mean I was 156 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: never in school and famous, So how is it being 157 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: in school and being on Broadway at the same time? 158 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: Your kids know that yeast. 159 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: In that age group was fourth fifth grade? Yeah, do 160 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: they even know what Broadway is? 161 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 6: They don't, So, like, you know, for the younger years, 162 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 6: I'll say, like middle school, it was kind of just 163 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 6: like whatever. It wasn't until I started doing like movies. 164 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 6: I did a film with Robin Williams called August Rush 165 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: and whould you do the film with Robin Williams? Yeah, yeah, 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 6: gen Terrence Howard was in that film to man, yeah, 167 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: so like and and that one still like it took 168 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 6: like two years for it to come out. So I 169 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: was telling my friends like, yea, you're gonna see me 170 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 6: in the movies and they were like, I ain't gonna 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 6: see you no, you know, so it's still that element. 172 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: And you know, being in Brooklyn too, you know, it 173 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: was just such a grounded situation. You know, I was 174 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 6: going to a very public school, Like it wasn't one 175 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 6: of those fancy, you know, art schools or anything. So 176 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 6: I really got a lot of balancing. My friends were 177 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 6: always very supportive, and I think once the Nickelodeon stuff 178 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 6: started happening, I noticed going on the train was different, like, 179 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 6: you know, people kind of looking at me, or even 180 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 6: going to school and people treat me different than they. 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Did before on Nickelodeon and still taking the train to 182 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: school and doing. 183 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 5: The whole man. 184 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm not going. 185 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: I thought I was about to get robbed. 186 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: Who is what you got on? 187 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 7: You? 188 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Some checks ain't come in? 189 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, bro, just trying to make you know what 190 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 5: you got on be What's that. 191 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: Did? Bro? 192 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: Like the first couple of. 193 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 6: Times I got recognized, I really thought I was about 194 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 6: to get ribbed, but it was all love and that 195 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 6: was a cool thing I felt. 196 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: Started realizing that the thugs watching Nickelodeon, Yeah, they. 197 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 5: Really watch Nickelodeon. Man. 198 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm definitely getting to like, guys don't 199 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: necessary necessarily hot know how to soften up to show love. 200 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: So it's aggression either way, you know what I'm saying. 201 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: It all feels the same robbing or salute. You're getting pressed. 202 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: I have to learn that early, right, Dudes would be 203 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: looking at me and I'm like, what did you looking 204 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: at it? Nigga? I love your music, nigga. 205 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well thank you man too. Maybe I deserved Nigga. 206 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: That's some good ship nigga. 207 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe a small brother, something like just a little. 208 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: So it took me a while just to get used 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: to that and to be more welcoming. You know what 210 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Somebody looking. 211 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Like this, what the brother? How you doing that? 212 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: I definitely took time. I'm really from Brooklyn. 213 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: My daughters. My daughters grew up in New York. They 214 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: came up in Harlem and so my my oldest went 215 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: to p p A. 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 5: S Oh yeah, yeah, very school. 217 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: She went to Harlem School of the Yards. She was 218 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: on the Metropolitan Opera. Wow, you know what I mean. 219 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: So they was catching the train early. I was like, 220 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: I was like, so where are you going? We're on 221 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the train. You're barely a teenager. 222 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 5: I mean it's just you know, how you get around. 223 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: I've never been on the train in New York. Really 224 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: how to do it? At least my son made me 225 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, my son made me do it because 226 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: he said that's what the ninja turtles were. He was 227 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: he was younger, older now he put on blast. But 228 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: you tho you got. 229 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 5: I mean it. 230 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: Is a little that's funny. 231 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: We're probably not gonna see him. We go see a 232 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: drunk nigga dressed up as a turtle. 233 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: With green handy holds. 234 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 5: Get different, No, it's definitely different. 235 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: What is that about you as you are in New Yorker? 236 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 3: What is it about the train that makes niggas get 237 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying niggas in terms of just men 238 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: women and just get wild and beside themselves. 239 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: What is that about? 240 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: Well, first off, there's like six million people smacked into 241 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: this very small location. So you're dealing with all types 242 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: of cultures and you know, mental health issues, all being 243 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: crammed onto a very small train. You know, it's it's 244 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: very possible that's's gonna get rial, but we want. 245 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: To do It's always there. That's the that's the meetings 246 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: like I mean it, maybe that's the meeting spot. It's active. 247 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: You've done whatever you've done in your job all day 248 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: and maybe you had enough. 249 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: You get on the enough. 250 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 5: That's really what it is. You're tired and you're dealing 251 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 5: with a lot of bullshit. 252 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Man, yeah, it got enough. I just don't I just 253 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be on the train and. 254 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 6: That crack off and that crack off plenty of fights 255 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 6: because I'm not I'm zero to a hundred, right, I'm 256 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: going straight to a hundred because I want to get 257 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 6: off the train. 258 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 5: Word, but you ain't going nowhere. 259 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: You go into the next stop. 260 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: I want to make this Listen. I'm the epitome of 261 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: it's gonna be you or it's gonna be me. 262 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: You heard you. I'm getting off this train. I'm gonna try. 263 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: You just had like a limb. I possess a certain 264 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: certain kind of skills. HiT's me. But I'm getting off. 265 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: I'm just prepared just in case. I know, I got 266 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: some movies coming up. You know what I'm saying. They 267 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: might need a you know what I'm saying, they might 268 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: need an evil guy. 269 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: So, so how is Nickelodeon for you? How is that experience? 270 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 6: It was a real process, you know, because I think 271 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 6: Nickelodeon uh signed me to a development deal at like 272 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 6: thirteen years old. So I had a record deal and 273 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 6: they were developing a TV show around me. And at 274 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 6: the same time, I was doing the show on Nick 275 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 6: Junior called The Backyard Agains, which is like a huge 276 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 6: show international, right, So there was all these big meetings. 277 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 6: It kind of felt like the corporate swoop up, you 278 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, And it was it was a 279 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 6: really interesting thing to finally, you know, be in a 280 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 6: position where you know, I knew that I was gonna 281 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 6: actually be on TV in multiple different shows and and 282 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 6: you know, they they kind of fostered my career from 283 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 6: a very early age at that time because of the 284 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 6: movie August Rush. I also got a three picture movie 285 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 6: deal with a Warner Brothers that was at thirteen, and 286 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 6: so like there was like this big moment with like 287 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: corporate structures kind of saying like we believe in your talent, 288 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 6: we know that there's something there and we're gonna build 289 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 6: something around you. 290 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: The writers strike happened. 291 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 6: I had three years where I couldn't do anything, no movies, 292 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 6: no TV shows. 293 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: Strikers, Yeah, the Strikers for three years. 294 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 6: So from you know, I want to say thirteen to fifteen, 295 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: there was just kind of a bit of a lull 296 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 6: and they found a show, and it was done by 297 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: this executive producer, Dan Schneider, who did like all the 298 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 6: big shows at that time, Keenan and Kel, car Lee, 299 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 6: you know, just just huge shows. So I was really 300 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 6: looking forward to to being on one of his, you 301 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 6: know shows, because Keenan and Kel for me as a 302 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 6: black kid watching you know kids kind of look like me, 303 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 6: you know, kind of be goofy and fun was just 304 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 6: so tight. And you know Dan really opened, you know, 305 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 6: open his doors creatively, and you know let me kind 306 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 6: of be on one of his biggest shows, Victoria, which 307 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 6: I got to work with a young Ariana Grande and 308 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 6: and just kind of be around like the who's who 309 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 6: of like who's going to be next in our young 310 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: Hollywood at that time, And moving my family from New 311 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 6: York to LA to pursue that you know three at 312 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 6: sixteen sixteen, Yeah, whole family, I mean, and you know, 313 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 6: the network knew that I was based in New York 314 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: and we're willing to put something in my you know 315 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 6: contract to make sure that I can move my family 316 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 6: with me because I needed that. You know, can't move 317 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 6: to Hollywood at sixteen in that situation and not be corrupt. 318 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: So I was like I needed my family, like, we 319 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 5: need we need some home cooked meals and some strong discipline. 320 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: Years old, some money in my Yeah, I was about 321 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: to go bro like, and I had other friends who 322 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: were roommates, you know, no parents around, Like they would 323 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: definitely have a lot of fun. 324 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Out of you get these you have this three picture deal? Yeah, 325 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: you got this TV show? What do you buy? Did 326 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: your mama let you touch some of the cat? 327 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 5: I'll be completely honest with you. I was a very 328 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: humble kid. 329 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 6: The way that I looked at it was, you know, 330 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 6: my parents had sacrificed so much of their personal business. 331 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 6: They were running a very successful club date band at 332 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 6: that time, which meant they were doing like huge weddings 333 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 6: for billionaires and you know, opening up for Shaka Khan 334 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: and all these really cool people. And they really put 335 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 6: a lot of their stuff on pause to be able to, 336 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 6: you know, travel, Like I did a tour in Los 337 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: Angeles and San Francisco with one of the Broadway plays 338 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 6: and was doing TV shows and always had to fly. 339 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 6: So my mom really put their business on hold. 340 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 7: You know. 341 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 6: I decided I was like, you know, anything that came 342 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: in from this time period, yo, that's that's for y'all. 343 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 6: Let me just take a fifteen percent, you know, mark 344 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 6: and just put that away for college or if I 345 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 6: want to start a business at eighteen or nineteen. And honestly, 346 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 6: I want to just kind of live below my means, 347 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: you know, because I just saw a lot of my 348 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 6: other friends, you know, they got they little chat. It 349 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 6: was just like it kind of got real, you know, 350 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 6: mom and his bands and this and here's that, and 351 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 6: I was just like I I saw them also fall 352 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 6: off after a certain point. You know, watch that Ben's depreciate. Like, 353 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 6: I saw a lot of things happen that didn't really 354 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 6: make sense to me. And I knew just also from 355 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 6: doing some research watching documentaries like how I needed to 356 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 6: move in order to kind of get out of this unscathed. 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: Wowright, bro, Wow what I'm. 358 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: Clack for that, because that's amazing for you to have 359 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: that type of foresight to see, like, you know, I'm 360 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: not the first one that this has happened for nah. 361 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 5: And this is yeah, see what turn that route exactly? 362 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I'll end up you know, 363 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: in you know, in a situation. 364 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely me, absolutely so you know at that time, you know, 365 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: my mom was trying to start a couple different businesses. 366 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 6: You know, I was trying to see how we could 367 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 6: maybe you know, pivot some of the money into some 368 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 6: of the things you're trying to build as well as 369 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 6: even for me, you know, saving money for my artist 370 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 6: career as well. And you know, I was really getting 371 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: into production a lot, because I mean they were putting 372 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 6: me when I was in New York. I was working 373 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 6: like Bob Power and Oak and Toby Gadd and like 374 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 6: all these really great songwriters and producers, and I really 375 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 6: fell in love with the process of making music. 376 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 5: So a lot of my money went towards like gear 377 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. 378 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 6: Just to kind of like have something that kind of vibe, 379 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 6: you know, it's something I could kind of pay me 380 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: back later on hopefully what you did. 381 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 5: And yeah, that's really really. 382 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: Dope, man, because, like I said, people just don't they 383 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: don't understand. 384 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: That this is truly a marathon. 385 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 5: It is a marriage, and I'm yeah, I have to 386 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 5: be able to survive it. 387 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 6: I've seen so much, man, And I mean I've also 388 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 6: seen some amazing you know, like victory stories, you know, 389 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 6: like seeing people really get across the finish line and 390 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 6: really be able to just like do what they gotta do. 391 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 6: I mean, me and Keiky we started at the same time. 392 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 6: We were some of the only like young black faces 393 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 6: you know, doing our things. So I mean to be 394 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 6: able to see her key Palmer, I'm sorry, Palmer me, 395 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 6: but like we were in similar situations where we were 396 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 6: really doing a lot of what we were doing to 397 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 6: also support the families that were supporting us as well. 398 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 7: You know. 399 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that's great. That's great, bro. It's just like 400 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm a perfect example of what not to do. I'm perfect. 401 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: I am God? So what did you do? 402 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 5: What's going on? 403 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 6: Uh? 404 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: The first thing I did is you know with strip club? Okay, 405 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: first thing I did. I'm mad at you. 406 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: No, I became a member. 407 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: Oh wow, So I would I would, you know, help 408 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: the girls pick out out fits before the club even open. 409 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: He thought he was down a bill Okay, he thought 410 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: he was down and in this place because I had 411 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: this money. 412 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 5: I was like, god right, I was sought after exactly. 413 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't got me a car, are all right? 414 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 8: Then? 415 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: No? 416 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: No, Lexus three hundred platinum Edition, the Black on Black 417 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: Bubba Lia and I bought me a gun. 418 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 5: That makes sense. The strip club a lot. I feel you, brother, 419 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 5: I ain't. That's literally where my boy just got robbed. 420 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 6: Man. 421 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: Strip clubs are dangerous. 422 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: I say, no, you got cash? Yeah, you know, just 423 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: let them know. Don't let the church, don't let the 424 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: church kid food come on. How long is the cash last? 425 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, not that long. 426 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 7: You know. 427 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: The good thing, the good thing I had done is 428 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: with my money when I when I was on tour 429 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: Virginia Wine and Leah, I paid off all my bills. 430 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: I love that. 431 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: So that was the first thing. My mama made me 432 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: pay off all my bills. But then when I got 433 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: my you know, record deal advance and my publishing deal advance. 434 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: That's that. That's when it went left. 435 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: That's what Frank the tank came out the tank, I 436 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: love it, and started getting acted. I'm talking about crab 437 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: legs as big as your back right forstall case you couldn't. 438 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 5: Tell you real you get no record out, huh, with 439 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 5: no record. 440 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: No record? No I was, I was. I was a 441 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: thousand air background. 442 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 3: Was a thousand air back with a record deal with 443 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: a record listen I had, I had what I had, 444 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: like like about two fifty on me. 445 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, in ninety eight. He realized that I 446 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: didn't know how want everything. 447 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 3: Exactly, so I like, you know that, And then moving 448 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: to l A, you know, with I think at that 449 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: point I kind of blew the money. And yeah, I 450 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: had a thousand dollars when I first moved to LA 451 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: and the same car. I still had the car. I 452 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: didn't bring the gun. That's a good thing, and no, 453 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna figure 454 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: this out. And I came with my NPC and my 455 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: XP eighty keyboard, my rolling and I figured it out. 456 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: Listen said, so when you say investing in that gear, yeah, 457 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 3: that's one thing I did do. I said, I'm gonna 458 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: buy this NPC, I'm gonna buy this Mackie mixer. I'm 459 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: gonna buy these and I'm just gonna I'm gonna work 460 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna figure this out. 461 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: Don't know where these songs are gonna go. 462 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: I gonna come out exactly, but I'm gonna know how 463 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: to do this so that when the time comes, I'm 464 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: gonna be able to feed somebody m hopefully yourself, hopefully myself. 465 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 466 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: When you so you mentioned when you first did the 467 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: Nickelodeon deal, they also gave you a record deal. 468 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: What label? 469 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 5: I was at a Columbia, Columbia record So. 470 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: They had a partnership with Nickelodeon. 471 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 6: They had a really good collaboration with them, and they 472 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 6: had signed a bunch of people from like Glee and stuff. 473 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 6: So I mean there was like an element of like 474 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 6: kind of trying to figure out how to convert a 475 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: lot of the actors from some of their big, you 476 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 6: know shows into stars and music. And it was an 477 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 6: interesting journey, you know, because it was their first run 478 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 6: with this partnership Colombia Nickelodeon, So I was definitely kind 479 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 6: of like it. 480 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: It was very experimental, but you. 481 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: Know, we it was. 482 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 6: It was really cool because I was able to do 483 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 6: a couple of songs that actually ended up on the 484 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 6: show that I wrote when I was like fourteen. It 485 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: just taught me the process of writing a song and 486 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 6: like that, that that feeling of people singing something back 487 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 6: that I helped write and co produce was like special. Yeah, 488 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 6: I was performing those songs on the show and we 489 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 6: were doing like big. 490 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Big shows too. Well. 491 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 5: That's the thing. 492 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 6: As as a cast, we didn't all want to tour 493 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: because we were around the time when the song started becoming, 494 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 6: you know, really successful. 495 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: We were like seventeen, you know, eighteen listening to Frank 496 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 5: Ocean this and that, and it's like stuff for kids. 497 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 6: And it started to feel like, Okay, if we start 498 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 6: touring now, we're setting ourselves up to be doing this 499 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 6: for the next two and a half years and specifically 500 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 6: in this one market. And you know, Arianna and I 501 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 6: and and even a couple of the other actors on 502 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 6: the show all knew that. Afterwards, we were definitely trying 503 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 6: to like take a stab at this music stuff in 504 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: a very real way, and we knew brand was a 505 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 6: big part of it. Mind you, we missed out on 506 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 6: millions of dollars, but we also made millions of dollars 507 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 6: after the fact by having a brand that was true 508 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 6: to us. 509 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: So was there a Disney and Nickelodeon beef? Not at all. 510 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: We all actually used to kick it on Disney niggas. Nah, 511 00:24:54,320 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 6: everybody was like kicking it, yo. Everybody was just vibing. 512 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 6: I mean, we were all young, and this was essentially 513 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 6: like our high school. You know, all of us were 514 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 6: homeschooled at that point because we had full time jobs, 515 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 6: to the point where our schedules were insane, so. 516 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: It was really yeah, understood each other. 517 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, those were the kids who got us, who kind 518 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 6: of understood what we were going through with that too. 519 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: Sure. 520 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: You know, so now is your movie TV, all of 521 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: this is landed? What is your progression musically that gets 522 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: you into this? You know, seventeen eighteen year old? I 523 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: mean for you, it's like grown space where you're like, 524 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to chase the Disney sound or the 525 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: Disney thing Nickelodeon apologies, right, we're chasing that. I need 526 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: to you know, as you're listening to Frank Ocean, these 527 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: guys like I need some of that. What is that 528 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: progression like? And are you still with Columbia? 529 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still with Columbia at that point, and they 530 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 6: set me up with a life change in session. 531 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 5: They sat me down with Babyface and growing up, like 532 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 5: listening to Babyface was everything, Like my dad's a huge. 533 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 6: Fan all so like, and I was a huge fan, 534 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: so like. To even just just to be in a 535 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 6: studio with him was like such a blessing. And he 536 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 6: really took a liking to, you know, what I was 537 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 6: doing as an artist, and you know, really opened his doors. 538 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 6: He did something that I don't think I've ever seen 539 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 6: any other big producer do for me, which was open 540 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 6: his doors and say you can use this twenty four 541 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 6: hours a day, just like keep making great music and 542 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 6: you're good to go, and gave me a room that 543 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 6: I could just kind of vibe out with. There was 544 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 6: younger producers there that I ended up working with a lot. 545 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 6: There's a producer Chris Riddick times that I started a 546 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 6: production duo with called the Rascals, And I mean I 547 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 6: went from going there like once every couple of months 548 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 6: to like being there every day and being around the 549 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 6: elements of R and B that really made me even 550 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 6: want to make music, like seeing like a line of 551 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 6: Richie Walking or Stevie Wonder do a Christmas record. You know, 552 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 6: just like just to be around legends and giants, you know, 553 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 6: to always feel humbled and know that like there's there's 554 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 6: there's more to it. I didn't go to the school 555 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: for music, so that was the closest thing to like class. 556 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: You know, your face is like a it's like a godfather, 557 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: yeah to so many people, absolutely, you know what I mean. 558 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: And he has he has the space and the infrastructure 559 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: and the information you know what I mean, And he 560 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: does not mind paying it forward by studios. Like after 561 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: I played for him, he just called me out of 562 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: the blue one day and had me play for him 563 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: on a Christmas thing. But this Christmas thing he was 564 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: doing for these people, rich people in the hills that 565 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: they do every year, and he performs and he's like, 566 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: I want you to sing a couple of songs as well. Fine, 567 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: and so you know, by the time, I kind of 568 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: over exaggerate anytime I talk about Babyface. So by the 569 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: time the message got back to my parents, I was like, yeah, 570 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: Babyface called me. He said, most amazing singer's ever heard 571 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: his fife. He said, there's no way he could do 572 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: this Christmas thing without me. I played the very beethoven Ish. 573 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: He thinks my fingers are magic. But you know, he's 574 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: he's that. He's that guy that you would you would 575 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: love and approval from that you would love, uh, some 576 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: encouragement from, and that's gonna fuel you to just do whatever. 577 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely man. 578 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 6: I mean knowing that the underdogs came from under his 579 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 6: wing as well. And it was like some of the 580 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 6: first guys that I actually worked with when I started 581 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 6: doing R and B. Just kind of let me know that, 582 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 6: like I had a lot to learn from the source 583 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 6: of like where they even learned a lot of what 584 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 6: they do from and and and he really genuinely taught 585 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 6: me a lot. And at that time, you know, I 586 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 6: was really close with Arianna. I'm still close with her 587 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 6: to this day. But she was working on her first 588 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 6: album and I had thrown like a little party at 589 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 6: the studio, you know, just real chill and played her 590 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 6: some records. And next thing we knew, we were doing 591 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 6: like half of her first album. And I pulled baby 592 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 6: Face in because I knew she was kind of doing 593 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 6: like a nineties theme, and it just. 594 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 5: Really worked out. 595 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 6: It just became like a really cool Eventually we did 596 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 6: like four or five songs on that on that first album, 597 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 6: and it went really well. 598 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: She yes was facing and. 599 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 6: Tony Dixon, Yeah, and I mean Tony Honestly, I spent 600 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 6: a lot of time working with Tony Dixon. Man. I 601 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 6: really got to give him his flowers because he's like 602 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 6: just an amazing producer and a good human. And he 603 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 6: would always talk about the cautionary tales of being in 604 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 6: R and B and all of the things that he's seen, 605 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 6: and I mean just kind of learning from from the 606 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 6: experiences that he's been around, kind of helped me steer 607 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 6: away from a lot of things that he was in 608 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 6: the trenches with us. 609 00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's funny you said that because he's he gave 610 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: you his example of what he's been around. Because Tony 611 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: is a guy who kind of stands back. He watched 612 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: everything going on exactly. So like Tony just wasn't the 613 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: guy who was jumping in it, exactly. He's just that's 614 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 2: not that, it's not his thing. 615 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: He'd be like, get out of here. Don't get out 616 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: of here, guys, you know what I mean. 617 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: Like and but he's been able to move in his 618 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: business without being caught up. Absolutely, I mean in whatever situations, 619 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: because there are a lot of them. 620 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 5: He should do this really cool thing. 621 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 6: I mean I only participated once or twice, but he 622 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 6: have like like once, I want to say, every couple 623 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 6: of months he would he would do like a suit 624 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 6: day when we would coming to the studio, everybody being 625 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 6: suits making music. 626 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 5: I thought that was so cool. 627 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: Also a photographer. Now that's where the money has taken you. 628 00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: It was tight. I love also putting the young fellas 629 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: onto something. 630 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, you used to go to these events. You 631 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I'm definitely a big street with you. 632 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. So it was fun to, 633 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 5: you know, switch it up. 634 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: Because he didn't invite us to suit that he didn't 635 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: invite us to suit that he know I got them suits. 636 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: Come on, you know I got that gassed haveing Steve Harvey, 637 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: the original Steve Harvey. Though Steve Harvey suits were awesome. 638 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, what absolutely no, I definitely agree. 639 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. 640 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 5: You know there's this old picture. It was my color purple. 641 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 6: They did the big premiere for the Broadway play, and 642 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 6: I told my mom I wanted color. 643 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, color color purple. 644 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: But but. 645 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 5: I wanted I wanted to be in a zoop suit man. 646 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 5: But the closest thing I could find was Steve Harvey. 647 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 5: So there's a picture of me. 648 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: I got it. 649 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 5: Please pull it up to the Steve Harvey purple pinstripe 650 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 5: suit like it was bad. 651 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. 652 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: It was a bad look for me. 653 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: But the Steve Harveys was a great's day was listen, 654 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: Eve fly. 655 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: No trash back then, it was it was not I'm 656 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: not gonna let you do this to Steve. I'm not 657 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: gonna let you do this right now. Steve ben had 658 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: it super fly ball head. 659 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 5: Steve is fly, but I mean hair. 660 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Steve was. 661 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: He had his own line, Jay, he had his own 662 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: his own line. That's how holded he was. I walked 663 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: into a warehouse nothing but Steve suits I picked out, 664 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: like six up. 665 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: This is personal? Really is personal? 666 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: What's up? 667 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: Because those were the part of the closet that I 668 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: told him he had to burn When I started what 669 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: the sick Steve Harvey suss In there said, let him go. 670 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: You didn't have to tell him that. See this thing. 671 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: I held onto the suits a little too long. It's okay, 672 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: it's okay. You know, appreciation for they had sentimental value. 673 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. 674 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: Steve told me personally, right these suits are for you 675 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: and you could have fit a twenty inch rim into 676 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: one of them pants legs. 677 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: Man, that's how we was waiting. 678 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: It's a lot going on. I don't like the disappointment 679 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: on some of your faces, like this is this is 680 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: how we was trapping back then. 681 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, Like you could definitely have an A K 682 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: forty seven. 683 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 5: The definitely trapping. 684 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: They said you just started listing credits, man, that they 685 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: first got out of control, you know, just starting with 686 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: the Ariana Grande. You know, of course, you know, a 687 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: good friend of ours, Harmony Samuels, sharing company with. 688 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 5: He's a great He's a legend. 689 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: I would I would like. 690 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 3: For you too, if you don't mind, Yeah, just start 691 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: listing some of some of the credits if you don't work. 692 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, started with Arianna and then I think, 693 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 6: you know, we really went through a nice R and 694 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 6: B moment. So then I think from there it was 695 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 6: like l m A you know, Chris Brown, uh, and 696 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 6: then you know, Drake has been a really big one tie. 697 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 5: Dollars something. 698 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: Because we have multiple records. 699 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 6: Drake has definitely been been an amazing addition. Yeah, gold Roses, 700 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 6: I did pipe down in the Bible, yeah, man, certified, Yeah, certified, certified. 701 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: What is your What did y'all record that? Y'all like 702 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: the Bahamas or so? 703 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, So that whole story was interesting, man, because all right, 704 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 6: so love All, which is one of the records I 705 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 6: didn't name, was one of the first songs that that 706 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 6: we did forgot so many, but that was one of 707 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 6: the joints we did. 708 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: A while ago. 709 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 5: It was like it was like the first song, I'm. 710 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: Sorry, let me start you back at the beginning, how 711 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: do you get to drink? Boy? 712 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 5: I got a shout out to my boy Wonder. 713 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 6: Boy Wonder is definitely easily one of my you know, 714 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 6: biggest mentors right now, especially because you know, I'm working 715 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 6: with him very closely on a lot of big projects. 716 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 5: And boy Wondered just kind of he just took a 717 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 5: liking to christ and I. He's so nice. 718 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: He's one of the nicest humans on the planet. 719 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 5: And he just you know, started working with us. 720 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 6: And you know, he was working on a management situation 721 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 6: around that time called Island Management, and you know, shout 722 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 6: out to Simon and and e K. They came in 723 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 6: and offered us a deal to start working with them, 724 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 6: and they're very connected to Drake and his whole team. 725 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 6: And you know, that was after we did Gold Roses 726 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 6: kind of naturally just vibing with some of their producers, yea, 727 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 6: And over time, you know, things were being sent around 728 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 6: to Drake's team and Love All was one of the 729 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 6: first songs that came out of it from the Certified 730 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 6: lover Boy album and the whole album it leaked at first, 731 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 6: so that was a part of the first batch of records. 732 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 6: But he loved that song so much and it had 733 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 6: gotten so much love online from the league, he decided 734 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 6: to keep it and you know, flew me out to 735 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 6: Bahamas to to kind of start cooking up some more 736 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 6: stuff and you know, to really kind of be around 737 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 6: him and kind of absorb his energy and like who 738 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 6: he is as a human being. 739 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: Made it really. 740 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 6: Possible to then go back to La and like start 741 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 6: really crafting records that kind of matched his vibe, you know, 742 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 6: And it was such a blessing. But a lot of 743 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 6: it all happened in La but Bahamas was like more 744 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 6: so research me than anything else we. 745 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 5: Made to music. 746 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: And had you ever been before, No, it's my first time. 747 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: You know. 748 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 6: I don't really travel for fun a lot. I'm a 749 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 6: bit of a workaholic and if I am traveling, it's 750 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 6: usually for work. So but that was one of those 751 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 6: situations where I was working, but we were also vibing, 752 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 6: you know. And it was like during COVID too, so 753 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 6: I was a little afraid of like doing too much, 754 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 6: but we're definitely just chilling by the beach, kicking it. 755 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 1: So that's cool. 756 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 3: Then you started to mention another you know, another certified homie, 757 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: super gifted tid dollar you'd use but you're about to say, 758 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: tie dollar. 759 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 5: Sign to dollar Sign. Yeah, Ty Dollar. 760 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 6: I mean he's like my monster, my brother, you know 761 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. He's really held it down. And I 762 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 6: started playing some of my music. Yeah, yeah, I started 763 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 6: playing some of my music early on when he was 764 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 6: working on his album featuring Ti dollar Sign. I was 765 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 6: doing some stuff on that and he just really took 766 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 6: a liking to the music and always spoke so much 767 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 6: power into what I was doing as an artist. And 768 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 6: that was a really cool moment for me, because a 769 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 6: lot of artists, when you know, they know that you're 770 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 6: a producer songwriter, kind of liked it keep you in 771 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 6: that place. 772 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 5: But he always like, let me know, he. 773 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 1: Thought he thought cold. 774 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 5: So I was really cool, and and I was. 775 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 6: I was about to put my project out independently, you know, 776 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 6: and you know, I met with Sean Barron to see 777 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 6: if he knew any like A and RS and maybe 778 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 6: I could hire for a little bit just to kind 779 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 6: of get some things together and like put a good 780 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 6: marketing team around what I was doing independently. And he 781 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 6: was like, listen, we got a venture we're doing right now. 782 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 6: And you know, at that time, Baby Keem and Kendrick 783 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 6: were like just dropping their stuff together, and I was like. 784 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 5: We've never seen that in R and P. 785 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: That's a good dude. 786 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 6: What if that kind of happened where you kind of 787 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 6: cross pollinating, you know, both worlds and and kind of 788 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 6: like creating a platform and a bit of a co 789 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 6: sign essentially in the space. And I mean it's it's 790 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 6: you know, proving to be pretty successful, man. And I'm 791 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 6: excited to keep putting these records out because it definitely 792 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 6: means a lot to me. Being on stage is such 793 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 6: a big part of what I do, coming from Broadway, 794 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 6: so like, I'm definitely excited to get out the studio. 795 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: A bit and get back on the stage. I want 796 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: to see. 797 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 5: I'm excited. 798 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: Man. Would you rather have. 799 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: If you had to choose, which you don't because you're 800 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: talented in all these spaces, which one would mean the 801 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 2: most to you? A number one record, a number one movie, 802 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: or I number one TV show? 803 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: I think a number one record, yeah, because yeah, I've 804 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 3: been on a number one TV show before. I think 805 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: a number one record would be special because of just 806 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 3: how much work I've put into it, you know, like 807 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 3: I was signed my first deal at thirteen, you know, 808 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 3: twenty nine now, you know, it's been a long time 809 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 3: of like cooking up records and stopping and starting and 810 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out and surviving through production and 811 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 3: songwriting and finally getting my shot right now just really 812 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: means a lot to me. And knowing that I have 813 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 3: fans who have literally grown up with me, you know, 814 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 3: I want to do that for them just as much 815 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 3: as I want to do it for me, because know 816 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 3: they've been rooting from the sidelines and wondering, like what's 817 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 3: going on, you know, Like, so I'm really hoping for that. 818 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna work hard for it. 819 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: I love. Yeah. No, that number one record is just 820 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: because there's so many more things that are connected to that. 821 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 5: It's just different and it's your story. 822 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a writer, you know, it's the direct 823 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: connection to you. 824 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's not. 825 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 3: A character, it's not a it's not it's not an 826 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 3: ensemble cast. It's exactly any of that. 827 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: It's a direct line to you, my soul, Yeah, in 828 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: your true artistry and individuality. Exactly. 829 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 2: Yes, it's to the music that's it's really the only 830 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: way you can do that absolutely and have that is 831 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 2: to you know, go to the artist route with it. 832 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: I just always wonder, you know, when you know we 833 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: have triple threats on the show, you know, Twisted. 834 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 6: I definitely want to keep acting, and I mean this 835 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 6: is the year where I'm like definitely getting back to it. 836 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 6: I've just been like I wanted to approaching on this 837 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 6: next run with more tools, like learning Meisner, like like 838 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 6: just like really studying and like coming back with the 839 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 6: ability to. 840 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 5: Cry on command and and just do different things. 841 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: You know. 842 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 6: Meisner is a technique in acting. It's like a cousin 843 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 6: to method acting. And I think it's important now for 844 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 6: me to really step into a space that's that's all encompassing. 845 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 6: You know, like when you see Denzel play a character, 846 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 6: you forget it's Denzel, you know, Robert Downie Junior specifically, 847 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 6: you forget it's Roberts sometimes, you know. And and I 848 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 6: want that ability to kind of dive into characters. 849 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: And that's my deeper level. 850 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 6: I don't know exactly what they study, but I just 851 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 6: know that it's just a style of acting that that 852 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 6: I'm just because. 853 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: The method acting is literally you coming as that character. 854 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 6: You're coming in and it's it is Now, it's not that, 855 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 6: but it's just it's just the art of being, you know. 856 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 6: It's it's it's it's the art of being because I 857 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 6: think there's so much thinking that goes into acting, and 858 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 6: and I feel like just kind of listening more is 859 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 6: like a big thing that I've always struggle within acting 860 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 6: because I'm so line focused and worried about my faces 861 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 6: and what my body language is doing and things like that. 862 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 6: So I think now it's just like being, you know, 863 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 6: and genuinely being in that scene and and just not 864 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 6: being afraid to fuck up and just have more fun. 865 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 7: You know. 866 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 6: But Misner is pretty pretty next level. So I'm still learning, 867 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 6: you know, still getting it locked in. But that's one 868 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 6: of the things I've been trying to just kind of 869 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 6: like put in my pocket so I can come through 870 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 6: it and go crazy. 871 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: And she studied, crush, you studied. I have not study. 872 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: I have a lot of book away. 873 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 7: You have. 874 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: The book is going to kill me. You know. 875 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: I have a lot of great methods that I used 876 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: to approach my acting. You know, he's amazing. You've seen Okay, 877 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,959 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean. 878 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: You talk about TV one BT you know what I'm saying, 879 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: v H one and the didn't tell. 880 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 3: You know, but I mean, I just finished the movie 881 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 3: which was a really really cool movie and it was 882 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 3: it was the cool It was directed by Robin Gibbons, 883 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: which was really cool because she's an act guitar absolutely 884 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 3: like that's that's despion, Like her choices are infinite, you 885 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And so we have been in 886 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 3: a play together uh many moons back, but this was 887 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: different because she was actually you know, it's it's hard 888 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 3: to know if a great actor can can lead actors 889 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: into great acting, you know what I mean, because every 890 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 3: great player ain't a great coach, you know what I'm saying. 891 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: They don't necessarily have the gift of distributing information and 892 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 3: not correctly anyway, you know what I'm saying. And that 893 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: journey was crazy because it's like, as I'm dancing and 894 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 3: into different choices and here comes this other really cool 895 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 3: perspective like, oh, I didn't think about that, but you 896 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 3: have a director who understands like it can also show 897 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: you an example and I was getting there and can 898 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 3: show you like what do you think about here? 899 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: What do you think about being right here, and I'm like, oh, 900 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: that's nice. Let's do that exactly. You know what I'm saying. 901 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 5: Now, let's play like now you haven't pun that was 902 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 5: a vacation. Yeah, we having a good time. 903 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: You know. 904 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 3: I'm looking at you, You're looking at my piano. It's 905 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 3: just unlimited, man, It's unlimited how you can make music now, 906 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 3: you know. And since it's so unlimited, we understand you 907 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 3: got some understanding of where a lot of this music has. 908 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: Comfortable come from. 909 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 8: And absolutely you got artists that you love and you 910 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 8: grew up on and protect producers and I let you know, Leon, 911 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 8: we just want to know your. 912 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 7: Top five, your top five? What we want to know 913 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 7: top five? Leon's top five R and B autists? Oh wow, 914 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 7: R and B songs? 915 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 4: Who are they? Who are the top five? 916 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 5: Leon? Come on, brother, that was beautiful. 917 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 3: Man. 918 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: I think you drew it a little bit. 919 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 7: Man. 920 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: Damn. 921 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 6: All right, so my top that's pretty easy. That's that's 922 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 6: that's super easy. Stevie Wonder if it's. 923 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 5: Magic just the artist, just the artist, like yeah, like 924 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 5: this man here we go. 925 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, cool, So Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Prince 926 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 6: Michael Jackson, Damn, and then I'm gonna I'm gonna try 927 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 6: to find a new school D'Angelo. 928 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 5: Yes, that's my top five straight. I'm just basing it 929 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 5: off of what I listened to you. 930 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: You ain't no way you not making good music, Ain't 931 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 3: no way. Now with that top five, you have no choice. 932 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely ship, impeccable taste, impeccable taste. 933 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: Parlor of the gods. 934 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 5: Man, appreciate at you. 935 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: What about your song? What about your song? 936 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 5: See the songs. I'm gonna do some deep cuts. 937 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 7: Now. 938 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 6: If it's Magic by Stevie Wonder. It's just one of 939 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 6: those records that I just started going back to. It's 940 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 6: very simple, it's just him and a harp, just vibe now. 941 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 6: But it's just so dope, like how he wrote that, 942 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 6: and we have so many songs about about love, and 943 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 6: this was about life. 944 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 5: I thought that was really tight, you know what I'm saying. 945 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 5: Marvin Gaye, what's going on? Once again? 946 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 6: A record that like talked about life like things that 947 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 6: were going on at his time. I thought that was 948 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 6: really special. Sam Cook, Change is Gonna Come? I felt 949 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 6: like that once again was like talking about something like 950 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 6: really like taking us there, you know, a studied man. 951 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 6: And then this is a is off the cuff one. 952 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 6: But Prince he has this album called Dirty Mind of course, 953 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 6: and like record head Head. 954 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 5: Is one of my favorite Prince records because it's just nasty. 955 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 1: You could tell Prince was up there just viving. 956 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 6: I feel like he was just at the crib going 957 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 6: crazy or wherever he was, but at the crib just five, 958 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 6: and I thought that was really dope. And then. 959 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 5: Michael Jackson human nature. 960 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 3: Listen, let me tell you something that human nature timeless. 961 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 3: It's you can't get away from it. 962 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: You really can't. 963 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 3: Human nature has been in the top five for countless 964 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 3: people who've come on the army, you know. 965 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 6: Quincy says, you know, we're always chasing chills, you know. 966 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 6: And that's one of those records. 967 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 5: Man, Like the first time you hear it, like bro, 968 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 5: like yeah, always get. 969 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: G man. Okay, all right, you've dazzled with me, young man. 970 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: Is that great feeling games planning? 971 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 5: I think it might be he was. 972 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: I put nothing past Greg feeling games. 973 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 5: Greg is actually a really good friend of Babyfaces. How 974 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 5: we know, Bro. He would come out of studio and 975 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 5: just like tell the stories, like guy, the stories Man. 976 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: Were the coolest guy. You know. He thought that Juvenile 977 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: was saying Greg filling games. 978 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm no, lie, I'm I'm eighteen years old and 979 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm in the studio with Babyface in Greg feeling Games. 980 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 2: And he thought that they were saying his name or 981 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 2: back then up and I said, no, sir, no, sir, 982 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 2: he yo, I don't I don't know, sir, juvenile. 983 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: But. 984 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 5: There's no way. Yeah, my boy was a wilent. 985 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: Y'all would never listen to that record the same again next, Yeah, Greg, 986 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: you gotta stop this year. Now, that's crazy. This is 987 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: out of control, I promise the guys saying Greg feeling gangs. 988 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah on the record. I just never forgot that. That's 989 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: buddy we gotta have on the podcast when he comes. 990 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's a rumor going on that Jason started, that's great. 991 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: Okay, alright, le okay, you think you you think you 992 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: got all your ship together? What's up? We going? We're 993 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna do an R and B voltron. I don't know 994 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: what that is, but let's go. 995 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 5: Okay. Oh like if we could get a bit like 996 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 5: a band together. 997 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: That's no, it's not a band, that's all right. I 998 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 1: don't know, man, okay, young man, young. 999 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:12,760 Speaker 4: Man, vault it was transformers, No, it's it was five lions. 1000 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 3: Oh okay, five machine lions got red, black, blue, yellow, and. 1001 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: I said black, black, blue, yellow, red, and white. It 1002 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: was a white green green and they all were on 1003 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: their own lion machines and everybody. And there were five 1004 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: people that operated the lions, and they would go and 1005 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: fight evil all throughout the universe. And then when they 1006 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: came against the big monster, they would form a big 1007 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 1: line the big person that looked like a human being. 1008 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: All the lions. Two lines with the arms, got another 1009 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: two lines was it was defeat, and the middle line 1010 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: was the body. It's not that those I know in 1011 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: the middle lines. The middle line was the body and 1012 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: they had a sword drop. 1013 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: Anyway, word the Vultron is you putting your superhero r 1014 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 3: and b artists together where you're getting the vocal from, 1015 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 3: the performance style, the styling, and the passion. 1016 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: Here we go. Who are you getting the vocal from 1017 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: for your Vultron transformer? 1018 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 6: The vocal from, I would say Jasmine Sullivan right now, yeah, yeah, okay. 1019 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 3: Okay, yep, yep, yep, all right, I'll see what you're doing. 1020 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 3: Performance style, performance style, on that stage. I would have 1021 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 3: to say Prince for sure, absolutely, because he takes from everybody. 1022 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 3: FREDI stare James Brown and he's also playing all those instruments. Yeah, 1023 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 3: if I could get that with the James Jasmine Sullivan voice. 1024 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:03,280 Speaker 1: What else? All right? What else? How you feel styling? 1025 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 5: Styling? 1026 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: Steve drip? Huh, disrespect the drip, Steve? I love you. 1027 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 6: That's interesting. His R and B has went through some 1028 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 6: waves styling wise. I'm trying to think, who's really been consistent, 1029 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 6: you know what I say, somebody who's been consistent through 1030 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 6: multiple generations. Beyonce, let's go. I really feel like I'm 1031 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 6: trying to just build build a real strong move here, 1032 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 6: let's go. 1033 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,800 Speaker 1: I like, I like, let's go, let's go. Okay, alright, alright, 1034 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: watch yourself now, all right? Okay. 1035 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 2: Uh. 1036 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: The passion of the artists, part of the artists. 1037 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 5: Passion mm hmm hm hmm. Yeah, that's James Brown. 1038 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 1: Passion. 1039 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 5: So passion because half the time we didn't even know what. 1040 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: He was talking about, bro, and we didn't care. 1041 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 5: We give a fun because of the passion we really 1042 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 5: cared about, Like how he delivered it. 1043 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 1: He said chicken change. 1044 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 5: Ticket DAGs what, no idea what it means? But like 1045 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 5: yo and felt gun, don't do no damn squealing. No 1046 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 5: you heard him, you heard it, but you heard him. 1047 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: Rappers heard him. 1048 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 5: You rappers heard him, And. 1049 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: No damn squealing. I ain't saying no names. I ain't 1050 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: saying no names. I ain't saying no names. I ain't 1051 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: saying no name. Where you was? 1052 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 5: Who was weird? 1053 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 3: What you did? 1054 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: Don't say? She ain't sharing. 1055 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 5: No, you're saying, of course that's beautiful. Man. 1056 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: So this segment, what's it's called? I ain't saying, can 1057 00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 1: you tell us a story? Funny? Fun up? Okay, funny 1058 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: and fucked up? All right? The only rule is Leon Thomas. 1059 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 2: I cannot say no names. And I just said both 1060 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: of your names. You got two first names? Or is 1061 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: that two last names? 1062 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 1: What you got? Because you could be Thomas Leon too, Thomas. 1063 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 3: You could be Thomas Leon Leon, Thomas Leon came through here. 1064 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 3: Man shook this the whole thing. 1065 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,479 Speaker 1: Man, she got crazy. You know your first and last, 1066 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: your last and first either one? Just don't say theirs? 1067 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 5: Okay, got you? 1068 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: So this is all that? Are you ready? 1069 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 5: I'm ready yet? 1070 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: This is Leon Thomas Leon Leon the Victorious man himself, 1071 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: the Lion King himself show up as the color of purple. 1072 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 3: Go on. 1073 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: Now I ain't saying no names. 1074 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 6: Okay, So this was my first ever production session with 1075 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,760 Speaker 6: a really huge artist. And they get to the studio 1076 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 6: and we're working hard on the record. We finally get 1077 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 6: to the point where they're about to record and while 1078 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 6: they're singing, they'll stop and all I hear is they 1079 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 6: start doing push ups in between every take. 1080 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: Dang. 1081 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,439 Speaker 6: I was like, man, this is this is something else, 1082 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,479 Speaker 6: but I'm talking about like intense push ups. 1083 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 5: Man. Throughout the entire session, we had to cut like 1084 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 5: breathing out of some of some of the lines. 1085 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 6: But yeah, just really just like going going, And I 1086 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 6: was like wow, And it was my first time ever, like, 1087 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 6: you know, producing you know, a big artist, and it 1088 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 6: was definitely different for me, to be honest with you, Yeah, 1089 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 6: but it was kind of cool because the show. 1090 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 5: Is I mean that finished journey. Yeah it matters you 1091 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 5: feel me. Might take some hints. 1092 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: I like that, of course you do. 1093 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 6: Like that. 1094 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 3: Take some hits show because I was I was intense 1095 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 3: and listen because after about you know, you have to 1096 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 3: get to twenty five thirty. 1097 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, whatever you got to do after that. And 1098 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: but the crazy thing is it actually opens up the 1099 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: vocal course too. Though. 1100 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 2: It opens up when you're doing your push ups and 1101 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 2: ship it opens up your voice, you know what I mean, 1102 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: because you're pushing, You're pushing through. 1103 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's exercise. I was just 1104 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: doing it to make sure. I just want to be 1105 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: this nigga here, just want to You can take your 1106 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: shirt that's from a Testavie, right, got you listening? Everybody 1107 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: not taking their shirt off at the show man? 1108 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 5: You know why not? 1109 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 3: We're gonna sell something on man, tell you on that 1110 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 3: to tell you that melody is a titty you you go, 1111 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 3: you don't enjoy one of them. 1112 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. Come on, I love it. 1113 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 5: I love it. 1114 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: Mockers for real. 1115 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 5: Leon something my brother. 1116 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 3: Thank you man, Thank you bro, Thank you for for 1117 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 3: represent man. You know what I'm saying. Thank you for 1118 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 3: just like you know, everything about you is solid. 1119 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 7: Man. 1120 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it. 1121 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 2: And you could have taken your music in a whole 1122 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 2: bunch of different directions, but you stayed true to this 1123 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 2: R and B thing. Man, You know what I mean, 1124 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 2: because you had You've had the opportunity to go to 1125 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 2: other genres of music because of what you what you 1126 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 2: worked for and were afforded by being in that space. Absolutely, 1127 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 2: you could have clearly been like, yeah, yeah, I'm about 1128 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 2: to go do and took this immense and amazing talent 1129 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 2: that you had and took it somewhere else, but you 1130 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 2: stayed true to R and B. 1131 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: Bro Man, and we commend you for that, man. 1132 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1133 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a genre that I love, I grew 1134 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 6: up in, you know, and it's a it's really the 1135 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 6: art of storytelling, you know. So I genuinely want to 1136 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 6: continue to do R and B and find new ways 1137 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 6: to add some of the elements that I've taken from 1138 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 6: some of the other genres I've worked in and mix 1139 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 6: them in. 1140 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 5: But yeah, R and B is always going to be 1141 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 5: be home base for me. 1142 00:58:59,000 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. 1143 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 3: And thank you Army Money. Army Money podcast is always 1144 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 3: home for you, that love. 1145 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 5: Man, Thank you so much for sharing your platform you 1146 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 5: need from us. 1147 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: We show up. I love it, we show up and. 1148 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 5: We cheer for real man, Thank for it. 1149 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: Thanks likewise, Yeah, it's it's about it. 1150 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 3: It's about continuing to to to establish maintain that bridge 1151 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's important that we 1152 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 3: are all connected. 1153 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's important that. 1154 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that the things we've learned 1155 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 3: and whatever fuel we have to feed into you to 1156 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 3: keep this thing going at a level that we do 1157 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 3: that it is important for us to do that. 1158 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 5: I really appreciate it. 1159 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, I've been a fan of y'all for 1160 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 6: a long time, you know, so, I mean just even 1161 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 6: being here and kicking it. I mean, we've met a 1162 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 6: bunch of you know, a bunch of times in the past, 1163 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 6: but you know, this really means a lot to me. 1164 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: So thank you, man. I appreciate bro. 1165 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 5: I like, it's love. 1166 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: That's a young man right there. Your grandmam say, do 1167 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: you know that nice young man? You should be more 1168 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: like him. That's who you should be like with your 1169 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: raggedy ass ladies and gentlemen. 1170 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 5: Name is. 1171 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 3: And this is the R and B Money podcast, the 1172 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 3: authority on all things R and B. His name is 1173 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 3: Leon Thomas. His name is Leon Thomas. His name is 1174 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 3: Leon Thomas. 1175 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: And he's a superstar. Thank you, Thank you, appreciate you. 1176 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 3: R and B Money. 1177 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: R and B Money is a production of the Black 1178 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Effect Podcast Network. 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