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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to No Dunks, a basketball podcast on

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Speaker 2: you so so much. I'm your host for today, Trey

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Speaker 2: Kirby and joining me in his brown to my green

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Speaker 2: in honor of a birthday. It's tasma and we did,

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Speaker 2: but we did it. We're just not composting in nature

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Speaker 3: If this is what the playoffs is all about.

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Speaker 2: So true, Browns and greens, we got the man making

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Speaker 2: the magic happen. JD.

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Speaker 3: Hello, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Dogs? Skeets will be back tomorrow. He ran a three

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Speaker 2: thirty four at the Boston Marathon. He was disappointed in Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was disappointed at a three thirty four. He said,

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Speaker 2: eight minute, twelve second miles. That's too slow for me.

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Speaker 2: You think you can beat him? Tests No, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: No, I tried sprinting today. I mean it was a

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Speaker 3: little faster than eight twelve, not twenty six point two miles. Worth.

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Speaker 2: What's your fastest mile ever?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: Not very fast you in the force getting down to

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Speaker 2: the force, Roger.

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Speaker 3: No, what about you?

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Speaker 2: I think my fastest ever was like six minutes and

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Speaker 2: thirteen seconds.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was like seventeen years old.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, the timed it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why, just for some sort of

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Speaker 2: fitness thing. I don't know if I ran a timed

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Hey, there's still time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, once this first round ends up, finishes up, and

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Speaker 2: four laps, no problem. A couple of bangers last night

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Speaker 2: in the NBA, we're going to talk about them. We'll

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Speaker 2: start here in Denver, where Kawhi Leonard threw it back

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Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen, scoring thirty nine points on fifteen of

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Speaker 2: nineteen shooting to carry the Clippers to a one oh five,

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Speaker 2: one oh two win over the Nuggets, tying up their

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Speaker 2: series one to one. This was an absolute classic late

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Speaker 2: night game, Tassie, what'd you like from Kawhi and the

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Speaker 3: This is obviously the best series thus far. What a

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Speaker 3: battle it looked like, such an NBA Finals type battle.

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Speaker 3: I felt like watching Kawhi go at it, that there

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Speaker 3: would just be a moment where the Nuggets collapsed. But

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Speaker 3: they kept fighting, they kept scrapping, so it was such

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Speaker 3: a great game to go until the buzzer. Not Kawhi

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Speaker 3: get to his spot. He went at Jamal Murray could

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Speaker 3: have aired and Gordon could have stuck there a little

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Speaker 3: little bit? But they let Jamal Murray go at it,

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Speaker 3: which is understandable you're gonna switch, and he got into

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Speaker 3: that mid range hit it, of course, but he really

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Speaker 3: he didn't stop, so I don't know if there was

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Speaker 3: after Game one, seven turnovers. He was not great, but

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Speaker 3: he got it going and you know, like zooming out

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Speaker 3: here just just wondering do the Nuggets recovered from this?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was a bad collapse at the end

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Speaker 3: and I thought, okay, that's the turning point. But they

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Speaker 3: continued to fight back. Then you got Kawhi Leonard hit

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Speaker 3: a mid range shot, very tough mid range shot, to

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Speaker 3: make it a three point game. Jamal Murray answered, huge three,

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Speaker 3: we're all tied up, baby, and then Kawhi Leonard missed

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Speaker 3: a very long three, and Michael Porter Junior pushed the

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Speaker 3: it and he fell down. Chris Don jumped the heck

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they do recover going to LA.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they do, because they, like I said, they really

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Speaker 2: Yep, eighteen league changes in this game. The game was

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Speaker 2: tied twelve times. It was back and forth the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Like you're saying, even with the Norm Powell three pointer,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've got to be upset because they could

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, they had five turnovers, including the

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Speaker 2: blame postgame for that, saying he lost the game for him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's necessarily true, but the Aaron

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Speaker 2: could easily be two oh. Denver could easily be two

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Speaker 2: oh Clippers. You have to assume going forward it's going

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Speaker 2: and then Kawhi was just awesome in last five and

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Speaker 2: ninety four to ninety two, had that fade away with

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Speaker 2: then the pull up jumper fifty five seconds left, one

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Speaker 2: three pointer, then made his next six threes. That was

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Speaker 2: five assists to one turnovers. They completely flipped the game

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Speaker 2: from a turnover perspective, twenty turnovers to eleven for Denver

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Speaker 2: in game one, Game two, Denver twenty, Clippers eleven. Whoever's

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Speaker 2: just because you're getting slightly more shots. It was eight

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Speaker 2: I mean, Denver, it's like we've got our guys, we

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Speaker 2: change up their lineups. Maybe Zeke Naji gets a run

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Speaker 2: Clippers well, I mean, this is basically a tie series,

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Speaker 2: so they just got to steal one in LA. But

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Speaker 2: this was just a really really fun game. What do

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Speaker 2: you think of how the Clippers have been guarding Jokic

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it definitely did not. I liked what Tyleru

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Speaker 3: made some nice adjustments and told his team, you know what,

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Speaker 3: Essentially they just swapped it and Jokic he was guilty

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Speaker 3: He just had a brain fart. He really went back

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Speaker 3: I missed it because they got an offensive rebound. He

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Speaker 3: have his triple double, it doesn't feel like he dominated

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Speaker 3: the zub He did not dominate the Zubots the way

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Speaker 3: He fouled Zubots late in this game. For an and

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Speaker 3: One didn't need to do that. Didn't need to jump period.

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Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard was taking it to Aaron Gordon. Now they

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Speaker 3: were seeking Jamal Murray out every single time, but when

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Speaker 3: he was able to do anybody to get anybody. So

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Speaker 3: you know, you brooke it all down there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it really was. I thought tylu out coached David Allen

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Speaker 3: of yelled at Jamal, hey man, just stay down, you

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Speaker 3: can stay down. I know, I feel like this looks

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, it really could be. This

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna go seven games. It certainly feels

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Speaker 2: On the side, he played pretty well twenty three points,

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Speaker 3: that was Christian Brown all over them, Aaron Gordon all

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Speaker 3: The guy just did enough. Hit one three scrapped. Zubot's

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Speaker 3: And I guess that question the Nuggets because we've seen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this series is awesome. You hit on all the

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Speaker 2: Norm Powell. His baskets were well timed as well. Kawhi

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what he did. As for the Nuggets,

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Speaker 3: I guess, I guess Christian Brown could have passed it

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Speaker 3: Hmm? What jumps out is something that needs to change.

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Speaker 3: I do think the scrappiness level of the Nuggets off

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Speaker 3: Jamal Murray just lost the ball out of bounds. Jaalen

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Speaker 2: Dude, get big.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as simple as that. Is there anything drastic that

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They did pair up Zubats with Kawhi for this game,

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Speaker 2: They didn't make their free throws last night. If Yokic

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Speaker 2: HiT's a couple, Gordon puts down the dunk, this is

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Speaker 2: absolute banger. That's Thursday night in LA. Cannot wait. This

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Speaker 2: They're playing in round one. It's gonna be an awesome

429
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 2: series and guess what it is.

430
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I hope for them that they get a tiny

431
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 3: bit of rest after this series four round two so

432
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 3: they can have a great series, because, as I said,

433
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets in round two last year

434
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 3: in a very very long series and then went up

435
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 3: to Dallas and got spanked in five. So I don't know,

436
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: it's kind of like you're playing your Western Conference finals here.

437
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: You can look at it that way, but it's going

438
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: to be long. It sure feels that way.

439
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: I saw people comparing it to Spurs Clippers, like maybe

440
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen or something like that. And Chris Paul hits

441
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: a game winner I think in game seven to send

442
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: them in and maybe that's twenty fourteen. I don't know,

443
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: but it was two good teams that it feels like

444
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: they're meeting a little bit too early, but that's how

445
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 2: it is in the Western Conference. In the earlier Instant Classic,

446
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: the Pistons got thirty three points in twelve rebounds from

447
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: Kaid Cunningham to break an NBA record fifteen game playoff

448
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: losing streak and even their series with the Knicks at

449
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: one point one. Talk to me about Cad and the

450
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: Pistons time.

451
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: Oh, mister Cad, he is just so fricking good. He's

452
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: so freaking good at just getting a tiny step on

453
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: his defender or whether they're throwing bridges or og he

454
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: was getting them both. I love the JB. Bickerstaff move

455
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 3: of setting the pick, so he goes towards the sideline,

456
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: as he was doing in a bunch of different ways,

457
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: but go to the sideline, you get a nice one

458
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: on one matchup. And he was just so good in space.

459
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: There's some Luca resemblance of his game where he's just

460
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: he's slow, but he always gets a little bit of space.

461
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 3: I mean there was that time where he had that

462
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: hesitation to get by Og. Mitchell Robinson got out there

463
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: to allow o G to recover, but then the lean

464
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: back on Og. I mean, he just had so many

465
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: things going he you know, I say, I bring up

466
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: that play where he goes to the sideline, but that's

467
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: kind of limiting in what that guy can do. I mean,

468
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: he had a behind the back on the break that

469
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: was so beautiful. That was saucy. That was saucy. A

470
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: lot of sauce, a lot of sauce. I mean, you

471
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: start with him. I think the Knicks were just a

472
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: little bit disappointing off the bat with him in general.

473
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: You know that they didn't come out. It's the game

474
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: that Steve Kurrz often said, home team in a playoff

475
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: series gets game one, then they kind of lay it

476
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: just a little lax daisical and they didn't have that

477
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: scrap level in quarter number one. And you could see

478
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 3: that just go up and down the freaking board with

479
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: the New York Knicks. Besides Jalen Brunson, who was incredible,

480
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: he had lots of sauciness in his relationships with Dennis Shrewder,

481
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: getting into whoever was getting into his face. Jylen Brunson

482
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: was freaking incredible. Besides that, I mean mckelbridge just kind

483
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: of got it going after a while. But you got

484
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: tens from towns Hart and Annonobi. Scrap level just wasn't there.

485
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: They played, they played hard at times, but it didn't

486
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: feel that way. It didn't feel like the Knicks were

487
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: really bringing it. So you start with Kid, but when

488
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: you look at the Denver night or this sorry, the

489
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: Detroit Pistons know you're going to get a good game

490
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: from Kid, and you got really really good contributions from

491
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: Shrouder and Tobias Harris and I got them over the top,

492
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: which is surprising. I thought the Knicks just didn't have

493
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: enough from their supporting guys.

494
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. And it kind of felt like

495
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: the Knicks were maybe trying to follow the same script

496
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: as Game one. You know, the Pistons took an eight

497
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: point lead into the fourth quarter in this one. Yeah,

498
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: Brunson at one point even went back to the locker

499
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: room again. I don't know if they ever said what

500
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: actually happened. He came back with new shoes. Knicks did

501
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 2: go on a big run tied things up late on

502
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: a Josh Hart dunk, but immediately after that I think

503
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: it was Heart and Brunson miscommunicate on a switch. Shrewder

504
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: gets a wide open three, knocks it down. On the

505
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: other end, the Nicks missed two good looks. Brunson took

506
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: a quick one, I thought right after Shrewder hit the three.

507
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: Brunson had a look with about forty five seconds left

508
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: off of a step back, a little bit of a

509
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: hero ball shot, but also the shot was there. And

510
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: then Michale Bridges had a really nice look off a

511
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: kickout from Jalen Brunson from underneath the basket finds him

512
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: at the top of the key and Bridges did not

513
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: knock it down. Shruder was great, twenty points to rebounds,

514
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: three assists, made that big shot. He was doing exactly

515
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: what the Pistons got him for. Be the second ball

516
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: handler when Kay Cunningham doesn't have the ball in his hands.

517
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: Also let Caid play off the ball a little bit like, oh,

518
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: absolutely catch an attack like. Caid was great in this

519
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 2: when he was driving a score ten to twelve from

520
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: the free throw line, which helps when you're only eleven

521
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: for twenty one from the field like, that's a decent percentage,

522
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: But you throw in ten free throws, that's awesome. You

523
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: mentioned he had that behind the back on the fast

524
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: break into a dunk. That was nice. He split a

525
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: double team with a reverse spin at one point that

526
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: was nice. Five turner overs I hate it, but he

527
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: did find Jalen Durhan for a big alley with two

528
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: minutes left. It looked like it kind of cought the

529
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: Nicks off guard. The poise was super impressive from the

530
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: Pistons to have the game going the same way it

531
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: was going in Game one. You're not even getting good

532
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: shooting from the Vets in this one. You know, mikhale

533
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: or Malik Beasley couldn't make a three in the fourth quarter.

534
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: It wasn't the same Tobias Harris twenty point first half.

535
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 2: They had to scrap this one out, and they were

536
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: able to do it even though things were going New

537
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: York's way, and it felt like after that Josh hartdunk,

538
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: it was gonna be once again a Knicks come from

539
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: behind victory. But you mentioned a lot of Brunson in

540
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: this one, and that is my main concern for the Knicks.

541
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: Brunson ended up taking twenty seven shots, only eleven attempts

542
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: for Karl Anthony Towns, only ten for ogn Ando. But

543
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: you mentioned three tens in the score book for the

544
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: starters on the Knicks. I think they just got to

545
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: find a way to give Carl Anthony Towns way more involved.

546
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: He didn't score in the second half of this game.

547
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: He didn't even take a shot.

548
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: In the fourth core.

549
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: This guy's an All NBA player who dominated in Round

550
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: one or in Game one, maybe played his best playoff game.

551
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: So I think the Knicks got to figure out a

552
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: way to get him more involved going forward.

553
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they have to find it. Doesn't he have to

554
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: just call for it. Doesn't he have to a little

555
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: bit a little bit. And this is a common complaint

556
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: about Carl Anthony Towns. We've talked about it in fourth

557
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: quarters before. I think if he has a little bit

558
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: more of the scrap level defensively, even when Caid drove

559
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: in on him once, he gave him too much space,

560
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: just too much respect. If you're into it a little

561
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: bit more, I think things will rotate into the offense.

562
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: While yeah, the Pistons were just able to do that,

563
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: I think Dennis Shruder just allowing Kate Cunningham to go

564
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 3: off the ball was huge in the fourth quarter. Those

565
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 3: types of possessions were so important to give Kaid a

566
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: lot of rest. What an acquisition for Shrewder was by

567
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: in fourth quarter minutes for this team. We talked about

568
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: going into this series, if the Business are gonna win

569
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: this thing, who's gonna be their number two guy. It's

570
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: miraculous to say that it was really Dennis Shruder in

571
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: game number two. Tobias Harris contributed as he did in

572
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: freaking Game one, the twenty two first half in Game one,

573
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: twenty five overall in Game one, and then fifteen in

574
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: Game two, but really it was Shrewder. And in terms

575
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: of scrappiness level, I mean, that guy is somebody you'd

576
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: never want to play. I'm sure Jalen Brunson absolutely despises him,

577
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: but Jalen Brunson was showing what he brings for the

578
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: New York Knicks, and the other guys just didn't do

579
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: enough of that. I know it's just sort of a generalization,

580
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: but I think there needed to be a little bit

581
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: more screaming and yelling from the Cat just to help

582
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: him out to get more offensive possessions. The rebounds were

583
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: absolutely demolished by the Detroit Pistons forty eight thirty four.

584
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: I thought Jalen Duran brought it from the get go.

585
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: He really did. They opened this game. Javie Bickerstaff gets

586
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: through to these guys. He brought the fight right off

587
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: the bat and he kept going. He out hustled the

588
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: Knicks for a huge ball midway through the third quarter

589
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: and he got to bring up the ball to give

590
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: everybody a rest. That's weird, Jalen durn bringing up the ball,

591
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: but he was able to do that. I thought John

592
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: Brunson actually got calls to get Asar Thompson out of

593
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: this game, and they actually said, yeah, that's a weird

594
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: thing that you're doing. Jalen Brunson. He looked Asar Thompson

595
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: coming up the floor weird. Yeah, and he let it go,

596
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: but he complained to the referee right there, and so

597
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: the referee said, okay, I'll give it to you. I

598
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: mean that really he only gave it to him because

599
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: he was complaining that was a foul on Asar Thompson.

600
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: And that was the one I saw was like, you

601
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: need to review that. He was begging he got please

602
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: please challenge that.

603
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: Prayer emoji for sure, you never see that.

604
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: I've never seen that.

605
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: No, no, of course the common the home run slash,

606
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 3: you know, video review, but yeah, the prayer and also and.

607
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Then he was wrong.

608
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah they whipheld because yeah, because Brunson hooked him and

609
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: so there was a hook. But he complained and and

610
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: that worked out. And he also fell versus Thompson on

611
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: another play, sold got sold and so sar Thompson fouled out.

612
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: And so you know all that to say the Nick's

613
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: got some freaking calls.

614
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: Well interesting you bring that up, because that was a

615
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: big talking point from Tom Thibodel after the game, basically saying,

616
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham is getting all these calls, Jalen Brunson should

617
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: also be going to the line. I don't care if

618
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: you're going to call files, just call him on both sides.

619
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: What did you make about Tibbs complaining about the way

620
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: the refereeing was going.

621
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: I tuned out of Tibbs complaining. I didn't tune into

622
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: the tibuses and tips. I didn't. I just felt, yes,

623
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying that Jalen Brunson got calls.

624
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: Eleven free throws for Brunson. He did get calls filed

625
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: out Asar Thompson, basically twelve free throw attempts I think

626
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: for Kad Cunningham. And on the night New York went

627
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: to the line nineteen times, they made sixteen. Detroit went

628
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: twenty eight for thirty four, so definitely more free throws

629
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: I can.

630
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: I can see why he's complaining because Kaid got the

631
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: sort of conventional Tray Young slash James Harden more and

632
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: more of a Trey Young like Okay, I'm driving, I

633
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: feel some sort of contact and then I kind of

634
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: flail away. You calling it or not. It feels like

635
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: that was a regular season call. It was actually a

636
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: regular season call that was reduced from twenty three twenty

637
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 3: four to twenty four to twenty five, and they kind

638
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: of stock opt it midway through last season when he

639
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: came down from the front or the league office like

640
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: we're calling that a little too much. And so, yes,

641
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: Caide got a couple of those. There's no doubt he

642
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: did get a couple of them, but so did our

643
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: guy Jalen on the other side. That isn't the reason

644
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: that the Knicks lost. To me, That wasn't the problem.

645
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: Brunton is going to the line a lot. He was

646
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: getting a lot of complaints on Twitter last night of

647
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: him foul baiting. Basically, you know, he yeah, a lot

648
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: of times he drives by his guy or gets his

649
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: shoulder by his guy and gets into the pump, fake party,

650
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: just to draw a foul. Through two games, New York

651
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: has taken thirty six free throws, have been called for

652
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: forty three fouls. Detroit has taken fifty four free throws.

653
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: They've been called for forty five fouls. I think it's

654
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: just a lack of physicality from the Knicks. They've had, yes,

655
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: very few foul calls against them in the first halfs

656
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: of these games. They're also not getting the free throws

657
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: on the other end, But it's kind of like the

658
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: first halves of these games, the Knicks are playing like

659
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: it's the regular season. They haven't come out and looked

660
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: like they're playing postseason basketball from an intensity standpoint, from

661
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 2: a physicality standpoint, I thought that was part of the

662
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: reason that their offense was so stagnant. Was the way

663
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: the Pistons were playing. They're gonna follow you a lot,

664
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna be up on you. They're playing a rough

665
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: and tumble style. No doubt about it. But fourteen turnovers

666
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: for the Knicks. They only went ten to thirty five

667
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: from three. They only had fifteen assists. The ball was

668
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: just sticking a lot. Fifteen assists sounds like a tiny number.

669
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Then you look at the Pistons box score. They had

670
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: eleven assists last night. Wow, that's crazy. This was ISO

671
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: basketball happening and there was too much ISO. Yeah, for

672
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: the Knicks, they were just You've seen this with Tom

673
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: Thibodeau teams for a long time. The number one play

674
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: is point guard. Yes, go do something, point guard, Go

675
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: do something. Point guard, go do something. The Knicks have

676
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: to get a little bit of balance going on here.

677
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: Bridges has to be more of a centerpiece to the

678
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: offense rather than an afterthought. He did get quite a

679
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: few shots up last night, but that's him finishing plays

680
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: at the end of broken possessions. They gotta get Towns

681
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: way more involved. He was great in Game one, but

682
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: he's only taken five threes so far in these two games.

683
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: So just run some picking rolls for him. They'll turn

684
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: into picking pops and encourage him to shoot some threes,

685
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: because that should be a huge advantage for New York

686
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: Towns versus the big guys from Detroit.

687
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: I will say we.

688
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: Didn't even mention as they Skeduward didn't play last night.

689
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: Paul Reid was better than Stewart was in game one.

690
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I kept taking notes of everything Paul Reid did

691
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: because he was doing good things. But you know, sometimes

692
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: he turned that freaking ball or how many turnovers did

693
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: this guy have? Because I made massive notes about he

694
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: had a steal, but a pass ahead for a turnover yuck.

695
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: He helped create a steal but then a bad pass

696
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: on the break yuck. He blocked Cat on a three

697
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: point shot, and he had two finishes in the minutes

698
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: the Knicks came back in game one, so he was

699
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: able to just finish things. A nice role. But anyway,

700
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: what I wanted to say there about Cat in the

701
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: non Jalen Bronson minutes, is there a great time to

702
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: go to Cat?

703
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

704
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: And they got beat in Brunson's minutes that he set.

705
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: They're minus eight. Why not just go through Cat over

706
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: and over? They could have easily done that a little

707
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: bit more. He can be the number two guy, could

708
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: he could? He? Yeah? I think I think he'd be

709
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 3: totally fine with that. So yes, there's an opportunity there

710
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: for the common Thibodeau offense to change it up a

711
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: little bit, because it is all Jalen Brunson, and he's

712
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: freaking good enough to do it. But yeah, Nicks weren't ready, man,

713
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: they were not ready from the get go in this game.

714
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm with you. They played Game two like they were

715
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 2: the road team and they'd already stolen one on the road. Yeah, like, okay,

716
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: we can if we win this one, great, but yeah,

717
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: had to win that one. So Game three is in

718
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 2: Detroit on Thursday night. You think's in control? I would

719
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: say Detroit has played better through the first two games.

720
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Other than a twenty one to zero run, this could

721
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 2: easily be Detroit to zero.

722
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it definitely could be. It feels like one

723
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: of those games where course one of those series, excuse me,

724
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: where the home team you may not come out and

725
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: perform all that well at home because they haven't been there,

726
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: done that. And now that the Knicks have their feels

727
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: like they're backs against the wall a little bit more,

728
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: maybe they will perform better on the road. But the

729
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 3: Pistons doesn't don't feel like a team that will ever

730
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 3: not perform for JB. Bicker stuff. It feels like they're

731
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: gonna come out and fight. So yeah, I don't know,

732
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: but I probably take the Pistons, Yeah, because they feels

733
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: like they have played better and they're fight a year.

734
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 3: That's a new word.

735
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: First home playoff game in since twenty nineteen. I guess

736
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: in Little Caesars Arena, Okay, hot and ready, they're gonna

737
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: be hot ready for game three, they will should be loud.

738
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: It should be really loud. So we'll see how that

739
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: translates and if that means their role players will play

740
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: even better at home. I think game one went to Campaign.

741
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: He was the best role player in that game, basically

742
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: won in the game, and then Shooter was the guy

743
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: in game too. For Detroit, New York's got to be

744
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: better on transition defense, I believe. And let's see Towns

745
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: do a little something here. Get a thirty point game

746
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: in your buddy anything else?

747
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, Payne was not great obviously in this game.

748
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: He pushed shrewder once way far away from the rim.

749
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: Why would you do that?

750
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: He barely played after being huge in the fourth quarter.

751
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was a little unusual, only four minutes

752
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: for Campaign. I guess It's like a if he doesn't

753
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: got it, he doesn't got it. We don't got to

754
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: go back to yeah I don't have it, point the same. Yeah,

755
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: that was quick.

756
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: No nothing else to add from from this match, although

757
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: I love taking notes, so I want to say that

758
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Paul Reid caught a Caid airball and put it in

759
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: there you go as a dumb read of my read

760
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: reads a little bit earlier. So yeah, Paul, it is

761
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: pretty astonishing that Isaiah Stewart just doesn't play because of

762
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: injury and it works out.

763
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Reid had a what did end up with? I

764
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: think you had six points? He had a six point

765
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: one rebound game, and I was like, you play great.

766
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: I thought he was awesome, and I thought that was

767
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: super impressive for Detroit to win that game. You would

768
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: think the game when like Malik Beasley's going off, Tobias

769
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: Harris has a twenty point half, Tim Hardaway Junior is

770
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: hitting threes, you would think that's the game they win

771
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: on the road, right, that they won this game on

772
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: the road. Pretty impressive.

773
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: Beasley one of eight from three. Yeah, as you brought

774
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: up like that, Yeah, how they overcome that? Overall? The

775
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: Pistons hit six frickin' threes, six and six.

776
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: Threes, eleven assists, and they won on the road.

777
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: And the Knicks didn't shoot well at all from three,

778
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: but they hit ten of them, and yet that is

779
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: a lot to overcome.

780
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: It feels like they even needed to take more threes.

781
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: I would say the next ten for thirty five, they

782
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: should be in the forties at the very least. But

783
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: of defense from the Pistons. We got a little bit

784
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: of news. Let's play. Is this news? All right? Tessie

785
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: got some local news for you. You may have read

786
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: about this one in the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

787
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: I Oh.

788
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: After three seasons as the head honcho and five seasons

789
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: total in the front office, the Atlanta Hawks have fired

790
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: general manager Landry Fields and Atlanta promoted Enci Sala to

791
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 2: fill the position have started a search to replace Fields

792
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: as president of basketball operations. Task is this news?

793
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: Well? This is very very interesting. It feels like ownership

794
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: did not see eyes with Landry Fields. I think that's

795
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 3: what it comes down to because a very similar scenario

796
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: happened in twenty twenty two. Travis Schlank was president of

797
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: Basketball Operations. He made the Dejonte Murray trade he didn't

798
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: seem to like that. By all reports, Travis Shlank traded

799
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: a bonch of things for de Jontay Murray the Ganoman

800
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. Two months later, Travis Schlank was out

801
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: as President of Basketball Operations Landry Fields the GM and

802
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: still GM to this day. That was his job, but

803
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: he in the same scenario. I feel like is gone

804
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: because they didn't see eye to eye. Really. I thought

805
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: Landry Field has done a great job recently. They was

806
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: able to, you know, return Dejon Murray, de Jontae Murray,

807
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: get him out of there for Dyson Daniels and two

808
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: first round picks. I thought that was a great sunk

809
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: cost recovery and making very good trades along the way.

810
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: That being said, it really feels like it's an ownership thing,

811
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: and the ownership just unfortunately here in Atlanta. I'm concerned.

812
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm concerned that they either wanted to trade Trey Young

813
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: and Landry didn't want to do that. Could be that,

814
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: or they want somebody older experience to take the front office.

815
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: Could be that as well. Sort of a similar thing.

816
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: That's what's going on in Denver with getting Calvin Booth

817
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: out of there. Hey we want an older guy. Landry

818
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: is young and thirty six and bringing in Kyle Korver.

819
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: But Sala, as you mentioned, was there with him the

820
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: entire time, a lot more experience with him Golden State

821
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: and uh San Antonio for him. So I just feel

822
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: like it's a bang butting of heads and maybe a

823
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: little bit too much ownership wanting to get their hands

824
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: in there.

825
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of hard to tell, just because it

826
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: doesn't there was no real tea leads. I don't feel

827
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 2: like for Landry Fields being let go. I don't really

828
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: think he deserves the blame for what's going on with

829
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: the Hawks, but they have backslid. They lost in the

830
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: playoffs his first year twenty two to twenty three, they

831
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: got bounced by the Bulls in the play in twenty

832
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: three twenty four, and then they lost two home play

833
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: in games this season, one on one and one fourteen

834
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: In Landry Fields three years as the head guy, but

835
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: like this past year, you're like the Dejonte Murray for

836
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: Dyson Daniel trade. Dyson Daniels Sorry, was a win for

837
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: the Hawks, Lisa, she looks like a solid pick for

838
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: number one. He'd made the three finalists for Rookie of

839
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: the Year. At least he's a player. He was involved

840
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: in the Jalen Johnson pick, which I think is a

841
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: good pick. He went down with injury, which you can't

842
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: hold against Landry.

843
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: Fields, and the signing of Jalen Johnson that's positive.

844
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean, even like DeAndre Hunter had a

845
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: great half season, his contract turned into no longer and

846
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: albatross for the Hawks. They didn't get a ton back

847
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: for him, but they got players who helped them make

848
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: the play in tournament in Kniang. And I guess Terrence

849
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: Man was a different trade, but Karris Lavert Karris Lavert, Yeah,

850
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: and then Bogdanovich for Terrence Man worked out as well.

851
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I mean, the team is kind

852
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: of just stuck in the middle right here, and who

853
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: knows how much I thought Landry Fields was more involved

854
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: with the first de Jonte Murray trade, the bad de

855
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: Jonte Murray trade that the Hawks are just now starting

856
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: to pay off. I thought that was kind of the

857
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: reason Fields took over, was that it wasn't a Schlank

858
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: move and Fields was okay saying yes to Tony Wrestler

859
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: and his son Nick at the time. Who was pretty

860
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: involved at the in the team. So I don't know,

861
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: it just it just seems weird. Three years but the

862
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: Hawks are losing their pick this coming draft. Their fourteenth

863
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: pick will be going to San Antonio for the original

864
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: de Jonte Murray trade. They're probably getting the Sacramento Kings

865
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: pick in return for the Kevin Herder trade. He's now

866
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: on the bulls. You hate to be paying off your

867
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: trades after the players are gone. That would be the

868
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: thirteenth pick going to Atlanta, unless the Kings jump up

869
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: into the lottery into the top four, in which case

870
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: Atlanta gets no pick. They also get the Lakers pick,

871
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: which is number twenty two in this season's draft. But

872
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: the first order of business you kind of hit on

873
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: it there for whoever is the new GM or president

874
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: of basketball operations for Atlanta as if they should trade

875
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: Trae Young. Trey is going to be twenty seven at

876
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: the start of the next season. He signed through the

877
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: twenty sixth season. He's got a player option for twenty

878
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: six to twenty seven, and he will be extension eligible

879
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: this summer. He could sign a four year, two hundred

880
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: and twenty nine million dollar extension up until June thirtieth,

881
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: or a five year, three hundred and forty five million

882
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: dollars Supermax extension if he gets named All NBA this season,

883
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: which I don't think is going to happen, but big

884
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: decision to be made with Trey Young. So you have

885
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: to think whoever they hire has a plan, whether it

886
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: be try and rebuild around Trey Young once again, yeah,

887
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: or say you're twenty seven, that's too old. All of

888
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: our other guys are twenty four and under. It'll never work.

889
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: So whereich way you think they're going to go. They're

890
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: looking for a trade tray or a keep tray sort

891
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: of gm.

892
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: I think if they're looking for a trade tray that

893
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: would seem to make sense because all of these other

894
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 3: moves to compliment Trey have been decent. I'll just take

895
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: you through. We've kind of gone through them, but just

896
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 3: to rip them off. Here. These are the Landry Fields deals.

897
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: I'm going back as far as I can. He did

898
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: trade five second rounders for Sadik Bay Okay, crazy one, yeah,

899
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: very weird. Then he drafted Kobe Buffkin hasn't played enough

900
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: because he's been unhealthy, Mogay and Seth Lundy. Then he

901
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: drafted Resa Chet, then he got return for de Jonte Murray, Daniels, Nansen,

902
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: two first round picks, signed, Jalen Johnson, traded DeAndre Hunter,

903
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: Frenyang and Lavert, and traded for Bogdan Bodanovic or traded

904
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: Bogdan Bogdanovic for Terrence Mann. Essentially add all that up

905
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: that that's not Boad at all. That just feels like

906
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: a general manager not seeing well with front ownership or

907
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: front with the front office. Why am I calling them

908
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: the front office with ownership? Just call them the frickin' owners.

909
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 3: That's who they are. And it feels like the owners

910
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: want to put their stamp on this themselves. That's what

911
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: it feels like to me, And it probably means Trey leaving,

912
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: But that's that's what I'm guessing. I mean, Trey's definitely

913
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: saying all the good things, like he wants to stick around,

914
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: but he definitely wants to make the playoffs and he

915
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: wants better supporting cast around him. If Jalen Johnson was

916
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: freaking playing, then there wouldn't be that problem. Is the

917
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: signing for five years for Jalen Johnson something that the

918
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 3: owners are looking at and say, yeah, you shouldn't have

919
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: done that. It's too much and it's for a guy

920
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: who does, unfortunately get injured. I know, I am just

921
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: assuming that that could be something. I'm just trying to

922
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: look for something here that the owners want different in

923
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: their front office, because it doesn't really make sense that

924
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: Landry Fields would go Jalen Johnson. Does you know after

925
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: four years though he does miss games, only played twenty

926
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: two his first season, then he played seventy, then he

927
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: got injured. In his third year, only played fifty six,

928
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: and then this year, his past year, he played fewer

929
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: than half games. So there's that. I don't know. I

930
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: don't know what the owners have to say. Do you

931
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: think it's a.

932
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Well, obviously they're upset with the way things are going

933
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: because the Hawks are just stuck in the middle once again.

934
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Their last five seasons, they've gone forty one, forty three,

935
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: forty one, thirty six and forty wins. Like I mentioned,

936
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: they lost in the play in the last two years. Like,

937
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: what's the point? I think is kind of where ownership

938
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: is coming down on things here. Treyjong will be twenty

939
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: seven at the start of next season. I mentioned basically

940
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: all of their other core guys in Recesschet Johnson, Dyson Daniels.

941
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: I think you could probably even throw a Congu in there.

942
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: He was pretty solid the second half of the season. Finally,

943
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: as a starter, all those guys are twenty four and under.

944
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: So if you're going to be winning, you know, forty

945
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: to forty three games, might as well do it cheaper,

946
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: might as well do it with an eye towards the future.

947
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: Those three and a cong Wu. I think you would

948
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: like a little more size than a Congou, but those

949
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: three wings are the solid basis of a starting five.

950
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: I think going forward, all you need is like a

951
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: Trey Young type to take them over the top. So

952
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: ye see how the Hawks pulled.

953
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: That one on. Yeah, you could see when the Hawks

954
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: were going well here in Atlanta, they start to look

955
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: at those wings. If they're starting three of them in

956
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 3: Dyson Daniels, Zachary Reesa che and Jalen Johnson. Okay, okay,

957
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: that looks like a team. It really does to have

958
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: Trey Young behind him and on Yakakongu, who looks good

959
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: at times. Unfortunately, the size could be an issue, but

960
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: it looks like a team that should be better than

961
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: five hundred. If they're playing, and they probably would have

962
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: been if Jillen Johnson was healthy. So I'm assuming that

963
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: maybe Jellen Johnson just has a body that doesn't keep

964
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 3: him on the basketball floor, but maybe he just freaking

965
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: will overcome that this offseason. So yeah, maybe the what

966
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: do they want? What does this front or ownership want?

967
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 3: I always want to call him front office? What is

968
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: ownership want? They don't want to be mediocre? I get that,

969
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: but where where are you.

970
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: Going to go? Or maybe they want to be a

971
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: little bit more mediocre and actually get some playoff games.

972
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Haven't had playoff games here for a while, playing games

973
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: for sure.

974
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been two years, been a couple of years.

975
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: For playoff games which bring in the money. Also, I

976
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: mean part of the question is what is Trey Jung want.

977
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: My guess is that with the way he's talking about it,

978
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: he wants to sign that two hundred million dollar extension.

979
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: Well he probably wants to get named All NBA and

980
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: sign a three hundred million dollar extension and then get traded,

981
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: it would be my guess.

982
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's those rumors that are hot.

983
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: But the Hawks have, like I like I mentioned, they've

984
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: got an interesting pick scenario. Here. They've got Dyson Daniels

985
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: coming up for an extension. They've got Kris lavert Is

986
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: has a new deal he could sign. They've got other

987
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: guys who are extension eligible. They got a ton of

988
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: mid level and taxpayer and non taxpayer exceptions. They've got

989
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: a lot to do this summer. So I'm imagining this

990
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: Hawks team is going to look pretty different by the

991
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 2: start of next.

992
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that could happen. Yes, I wonder who they

993
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: bring in though, I mean, I guess it could from

994
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: just be from Sala and he could do.

995
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: Some Yeah, the way that we're talking about him and

996
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: some of the reporting, he seems to be their salary

997
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: cap specialist guy. Yeah, he's probably like a basketball personnel dude.

998
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: And then the money man Sala as well.

999
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: That's the question.

1000
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: But then it becomes a question like who coaches the

1001
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: team because Quinn Snyder was hired by the previous regime,

1002
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: right right, right, I think there's a guy that's liked

1003
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: around the league. Absolutely, we shall see many things happening

1004
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta.

1005
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: Bye or Sala had to get that in, had to

1006
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: get that joke in. I mean, what is it by

1007
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: or Sala?

1008
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: You no, depending on when they hire their GM. We

1009
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: could do a full segment on buy or Sala what

1010
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: should he do with this Hawks player? Buy or Salad?

1011
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels there it is four years, one hundred and

1012
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: thirty million. I'm buying that one.

1013
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: I love it.

1014
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: All right.

1015
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: Moving on though.

1016
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: In our next is This News topic, Miko Harrison says

1017
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: he didn't know fans a level of love for Luka

1018
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: Doncics during the season any news conference, the MAVs GM said,

1019
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know that Luca was important to the fan base.

1020
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: I didn't quite know it to what level MAVs love

1021
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: fans love their homegrown superstar. Task is this news? Can

1022
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: you believe it?

1023
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: This is uh? This is bad news.

1024
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: This is bad news.

1025
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: This is bad news. And yeah, I hadn't a great

1026
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: tea and was reading Tim McMahon's entire article about what's

1027
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: happened with the Dallas Mavericks uh and how it's changed

1028
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: the last couple of years in terms of the front

1029
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: office and Dirk Novitzky. You know, he said told a

1030
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: German podcast that you could kind of see it coming.

1031
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 3: And if you go through the details of Tim McMahon's breakdown,

1032
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 3: it feels like Nico Harrison just wanted to be more

1033
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: in control of everything. Uh, and he you know, wouldn't

1034
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: bend to Luca to allow him to sort of be

1035
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 3: in control. And it goes from the the health staff

1036
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: there that they've changed the health and performance staff and

1037
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: he wanted to hire somebody who was not certified technically

1038
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 3: was not certified, but ended up getting him that position.

1039
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

1040
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: He pushed Mark Cuban out of any sort of hands

1041
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: on management role who he was supposed that he was

1042
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: supposed to have even after he sold the company, or

1043
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: sold the company he sold the team.

1044
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

1045
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: And you know, with Luca specifically, this Tim McMahon breakdown

1046
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: was interesting and was the one making the rounds because

1047
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 3: Luca worked with his own doctors, which happens with NBA players.

1048
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: We've seen it with Kawhi and the Spurs and how

1049
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: they parted ways.

1050
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Even Anthony Davis, I think, has his own doctors, as

1051
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: mentioned in this article by timcmahon, right.

1052
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So even despite that, Nico Harrison wanted him

1053
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: to work with the Dallas doctors. And so when they

1054
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: went on a five game road trip, Lucas said, you

1055
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: know what, I'll stay back in Dallas with my doctors.

1056
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: Nico Harrison apparently did not like that whatsoever. He requested

1057
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: him to come on the road trip, and the next

1058
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: time he talked to him, he was traded. So yeah,

1059
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 3: juicy feels like the team needed to be torn apart

1060
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: and Nico Harrison, I will give plenty of respect for

1061
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: at least talking to the media when he could be

1062
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: totally silent, he could be gone, but he is addressing it.

1063
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: It is unfortunate because when he does address it, it

1064
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: doesn't go well each and every time.

1065
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least you're talking about I don't like what

1066
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: you're saying.

1067
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the problem.

1068
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 2: Puts his foot in his mouth. Basically, Yes, every time

1069
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: he gets news opportunities, yeah it is bad news. Reading

1070
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: the Tim McMahon article and thinking about the timeline of

1071
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: the Luca trade and when the new ownership group took power,

1072
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: it just feels like Nico Harrison saw an opportunity to

1073
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: become like the most important guy in the Mavericks franchise

1074
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: and decided I'm going to become the most important guy

1075
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: in the Mavericks franchise. He pushed out Luca's training staff. Basically,

1076
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: he pushed out Dirk Novitsky. It feels like because Luca's

1077
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: training staff was also involved with Dirk's training from back

1078
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: in his Dallas days. Mark Cuban thought he was going

1079
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: to be involved in the basketball making decisions afterwards, and

1080
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: Nico Harrison said, I don't think so Mark kicked him

1081
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: out and then he got rid of Luka Doncic. He's

1082
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: just making a power play to recreate the team in

1083
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: his image, and I don't know. I wonder how long

1084
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: he continues to have managements backing right, Like if you

1085
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: keep going in front of cameras and you're digging yourself

1086
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: deeper in deeper holes, Eventually that like Patrick Dumont is

1087
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: probably gonna be like, what's going on here? Yeah, clearly

1088
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: nobody expected this much of a backlash, which is insane

1089
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: that they didn't expect that, But that was some of

1090
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: the reporting afterwards, right when it happened, right, was that

1091
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: they didn't tell other teams because they didn't want it

1092
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: to leak and then fans to overreact. It happens. The

1093
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: fans react the way anybody would if you're trading a

1094
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic caliber thing. So I just wonder if it's

1095
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: like Patrick Dumont is like, WHOA. I knew we were

1096
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: going to be a different team and people were going

1097
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: to be mad, but I didn't know it was going

1098
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: to be people giving up their fandom to start cheering

1099
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: for the thunder.

1100
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: Well when he asked when he was asked the question

1101
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: about how mad fans were going to be, and he said,

1102
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know that fans were going to get to

1103
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: this level. The question was asked as do you think

1104
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: the injuries to essentially Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving has

1105
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: played a part in that, And Nico said, good question,

1106
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: And it is a good question because that's the thing

1107
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: that I'm sure or Patrick Dumont wonders if they were healthy,

1108
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: would that have lessened the blow to some degree? I mean,

1109
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: they would probably be a playoff team, They'd probably be

1110
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 3: a good team. And that's what Nico Harrison is thinking.

1111
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he.

1112
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: Loves those two and a half quarters Kyrie and Anthony

1113
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: Davis played together.

1114
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Nico Harrison, I'm sure as a guy

1115
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: who wanted to control it, sure feels that way is

1116
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 3: looking at it. But obviously it doesn't add up all

1117
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 3: that well because you definitely traded for a guy, and

1118
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis has been injured a little bit in the past,

1119
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 3: and so that part doesn't add up all that well

1120
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 3: to everything else that you did. As you said about

1121
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: pushing out Dirk, pushing out Luca's health and management staff

1122
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: that used to be there, and they pushed those guys out,

1123
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: that guys that Dirk vouched for, Luca vouched for, Jalen

1124
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: brunsonuch for guy who was in Dallas. So those it

1125
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: feels like that's Nico Harrison just coming into the situation,

1126
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: looking at the the the tree there, the employment tree

1127
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: and saying nope, nope, nope, you're out and one to

1128
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: get controlled every little thing in there. And that's what's

1129
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 3: translated here. And then you added a pretty bad trade,

1130
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: which Queen Grimes trade, of course, Yeah, the Queen Grime

1131
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: that's the one. Yeah, it's it's obviously a terrible trade.

1132
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: But that's all part of his control type of mentality

1133
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: here didn't work well.

1134
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: The good thing is is it sounds like there's still

1135
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 2: drama and the Strength and Training department for the Dallas Mavericks.

1136
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: They hired two guys with bees what is it, Benton

1137
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: and Bill Borrow or something like that. And apparently those

1138
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: guys don't get along either.

1139
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: So oh yeah uh.

1140
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: Moving on though. In a social media post, duke freshman

1141
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: and projected number one pick Cooper Flag converned he'll be

1142
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: entering the NBA draft.

1143
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: Is this news? Nope? All right?

1144
00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: Next one?

1145
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good, that's good.

1146
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: There was some buzz he would go back, you know,

1147
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: flex his power as the number one draft picks say,

1148
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to pay play for the Wizards. I

1149
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: don't want to play for the Hornets. I can make

1150
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: more money doing an nil deal. New Balance is already

1151
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: paying me. But it ain't gonna happen. Cooper Flag gonna

1152
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 2: be eligible to be drafted. I love this every year

1153
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: in about March before the tournament has started. You got

1154
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: to get the number one Pixie and how much they

1155
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: love playing in college, be in the BMOC, going to

1156
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: the tournament. Maybe I'll come back. They never come back.

1157
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: No.

1158
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: May twelfth draft lottery. Who do you want to win it?

1159
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a there's a big jump from salaries from

1160
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: college in men's college, which you know is become an

1161
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: issue on the w n B. A w n B

1162
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: A women's college situation there that's different. There Cooper's gonna

1163
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: come get paid a lot of money by who who

1164
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: should win it? I don't, I haven't. I've stopped tankathoning

1165
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: just like you right now. Yeah. Yeah, you never to

1166
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: look at the stock mark. You never look at the

1167
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 3: four oh one k and you don't look at Tankathon.

1168
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: Just don't do it. What's the point. Yeah, you'll give

1169
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: you a quick sim Let's do a lottery.

1170
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still interested in Sacramento. Wow, big time jumping

1171
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: up from the fourteenth draft or thirteenth draft odds to

1172
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: get the number one pick. That would be huge for

1173
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: the Kings.

1174
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: Oh the Cooper flag.

1175
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 2: That'd be bad news for the Atlanta Hawks and bad

1176
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: news for your the Balls who would move down one

1177
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: slot as well. Bulls need to win them. NBA needs

1178
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: to rig it, as I've said before. And the team

1179
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: we don't want it to win is the Toronto Raptors. Yes,

1180
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: never can't. Can't send the best American prospecting years north

1181
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: of the border.

1182
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: I can't do it.

1183
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: Tariffs.

1184
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: It's like he already lives in the fifty first state.

1185
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I said that. I don't really mean it,

1186
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: but he lived in Maine. It's so far north he

1187
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: ate co far north. It's so far north, it's freaking

1188
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 3: way up there. He loved coffee crisp apparently, right. Is

1189
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: that just a real story? I think really, I think

1190
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: that's a real story. The coffee crist a great chocolate

1191
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: bar sold in Canada via the Brits, and it's not

1192
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 3: really sold much down here. Yeah. I think he was

1193
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 3: hot on it. He loved coffee, coffee. I don't think

1194
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm making that up.

1195
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: Do you got any idea ideas for us picking a

1196
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: draft lottery d idea?

1197
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good question.

1198
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah we need them. Yeah, we got less than a month.

1199
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: You got any ideas? J D.

1200
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 4: H. Not off the top of my head.

1201
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same.

1202
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 4: I mean there was you know, drug grid in the

1203
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 4: backyard and dog takes.

1204
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: A dump dog pie.

1205
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: That's a lot of that's Yeah, it's a lot of waiting.

1206
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: What do we do?

1207
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: Get it?

1208
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: Like a drone hover over there?

1209
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Give it long hours?

1210
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, meet him some old roy name for a dog food.

1211
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: I love that name for a dog food. We'll figure

1212
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: it out. May twelfth. If you got ideas, let us

1213
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: know down in the comments or send us a letter,

1214
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: Send us a letter.

1215
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: Did you say that you were enjoying a nice tea

1216
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 4: when you were reading the article.

1217
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice tea or iced tea, nice nice nice tea. Okay, okay,

1218
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: every time I have a tea, I can never really

1219
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: I can never really decide. I feel like they're all

1220
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: like I like a mint like, but I never really

1221
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: ranked them all that differently. So I get all these

1222
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: I always say, well, what are the options? And I

1223
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: hear like six options, and I'm like, I don't know,

1224
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: I just I just yeah, I was sitting and I

1225
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 3: wanted to get into read afternoon reading. So it's a

1226
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: rare tea.

1227
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 4: There's nothing like a nice tea while you're eating. And

1228
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying nice tea. I just didn't know if that's

1229
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 4: what you saw it. I said, just the fact that

1230
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 4: you brought up drinking tea, it was like nice.

1231
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: So you just brewed a cup of hot tea and

1232
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: grabbed a.

1233
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: Book to read, well an article?

1234
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: An article? Yeah, yeah, I like that.

1235
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: Well, I made a perchaing it. I actually purchased it somewhere,

1236
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: but I don't want to say where because Jad got

1237
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: mad at me yesterday. I'm here twenty four hours ago

1238
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 3: for revealing where I purchased Where there was a giveaway.

1239
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: I didn't get no, I know you didn't. You got

1240
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: it a lifetime putes. That's wow. They give away teas there, Yeah,

1241
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: they giveaway tease.

1242
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: Not an ad, not a bad our. Buddy. Tom Haberstrow

1243
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: pulled some data from game ones in the playoffs and

1244
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: found out that NBA referees are not calling fouls so

1245
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: few that they set a record low for free throws

1246
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: on opening weekend tests. NBA referees not calling fouls. Is

1247
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: this news?

1248
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no, Tom, I loved it. This is

1249
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 3: also an article I read while having a.

1250
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: Tea that's probably second half of the Cup.

1251
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 3: I uh, yeah, yeah, you're right. I think that one.

1252
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 3: I love Tom breaking it down on his substack. But

1253
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: I will say this, I want to quote stan Van

1254
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 3: Gundy last night while I was watching the games. He said,

1255
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 3: playoff refereeing is as different as playoff basketball, and so yes,

1256
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: it does decrease a little bit. It did go up

1257
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 3: a little bit after the second games via Detroit, New

1258
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: York Denver Clippers averaging those ones was twenty two per side,

1259
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: so it jumped up basically to like last year. The

1260
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 3: number of the numbers almost matched, so referees are being

1261
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: told you.

1262
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: Maybe they are.

1263
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it's too early to even tell them anything, but

1264
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: I think they will sort of just bounce up a

1265
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: little bit. I don't think that's all that different. You know.

1266
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: Tom pointed out that threes aren't up that much to

1267
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 3: result in a decreased free throw amount because there's just

1268
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 3: less grinding in there. Although they're up two and a

1269
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: half threes per team on average, so that's like five

1270
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: per game. So maybe, I mean, you can't really break down, like,

1271
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: what does that mean guys are in the lane five

1272
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: less times, five fewer times. But I think going back

1273
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: to last year's playoffs of twenty two average or so,

1274
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: we'll probably happen. I don't think this is a big deal.

1275
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: I think this is Tom breaking down eight games, just.

1276
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: A big number, Tom the Finder finding a big number.

1277
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: I love it. I love to see a graph like

1278
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: this because it gives you statistical backing too, what you

1279
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: think you're seeing with your eyes, where you're like, hey,

1280
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: the regular season and postseason basketball are totally different. It

1281
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: slows down more half court offense, less fouls, less free throws,

1282
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: that's what it feels like. And then you see a

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01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: frownie face kind of graph like this downturned at the corners,

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01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: and you know it's It does make it hard, though,

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01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: I feel like when we're doing these previews, because the

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01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: only thing you have to go on is regular season performance,

1287
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: regular season stats. You look at it, you look at

1288
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: the free throw rates for these different teams, and you

1289
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: have to be able to forecast going forward, who's actually

1290
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: going to get the calls, who's the best grifters out there,

1291
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: the Brunson's, the Shay Gill, just Alexander's, the guys that

1292
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: can't be guarded, and then you gotta follow them. But

1293
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: it definitely shows up every single year less and less

1294
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: free throws. So I'm sure you're right it'll kind of

1295
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: level out plateau to similar levels that we've been at,

1296
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: but it definitely just proves you're watching different things when

1297
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: you're watching basketball in April and May compared to March

1298
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: and June, March in Februaryeah, good stuff.

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: Simple as that, simple as that. Good fine, Tom, good fine. Yeah,

1300
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 3: the numbers have been decreasing over the twenty tens as

1301
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 3: three point shooting has jumped up. The numbers are definitely

1302
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 3: down when it comes to postseason after postseason, after postseason,

1303
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: so that sort of makes sense. But I think the

1304
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 3: referees will be told if they are down, keep them down.

1305
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 3: People love it that well, yeah, they like the grind.

1306
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: They like the grind. Yeah, exactly like we all do.

1307
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: Like everybody was fired up like about ninety five eighty

1308
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: five Rockets versus Warriors game, Like this is awesome. If

1309
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: you watch it for six straight months, it's not as awesome.

1310
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: But in the playoffs it's cool to see.

1311
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like the effort. Stan Van Gundy said,

1312
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: you know, playoff refereeing is as different as playoff basketball.

1313
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: Sometimes they don't know what they're calling. Sometimes they don't.

1314
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: They don't. It's tough. It's tough if you sell it.

1315
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: Did you see Aaron Gordon literally laying on the court yesterday?

1316
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: It was a real soccer move.

1317
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: Yes, he definitely laid on the court.

1318
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: Adam Silver likes soccer, but not like that. He's not

1319
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: he's not calling the front office.

1320
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Flops. Yeah, three game twos tonight in Milwaukee,

1321
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: Indiana gets a starter that's on NBA TV seven pm.

1322
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 2: Eastern Memphis OKC are on TNT at seven thirty pm,

1323
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: and then Minnesota and the Lakers go against each other

1324
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: in Game two ten o'clock. The Lake game also a

1325
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 2: TNT job. So got some questions for you to ask.

1326
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: Is Dame playing? Can Memphis compete and the Laker is

1327
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: going to guard anyone?

1328
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 3: Is Dame playing? I'm not still sure? Are we? I

1329
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: guess we all have already. Yeah, I'd assume after what

1330
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: he was doing in Game one, getting on the freaking

1331
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: court and yappin that he will play. Will the Lakers

1332
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: play better? I'm just making that question. Now here we go,

1333
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: there we go.

1334
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: One minute ago. Milwaukee Bucks start Damian Lillard will make

1335
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: his return tonight for Game two against Indiana Pacers after

1336
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: dealing with a blood clot that sidelined him for over

1337
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 2: a month. League sources tell me I think that sources

1338
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard. Oh, yes, guys are pretty close. So that's cool.

1339
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: Dame Willard playing basketball tonight after a month he's been

1340
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: off for a month.

1341
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 3: Basically, Yes, great recovery. I'm exciting. Incredible recovery for him. Yes,

1342
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: very exciting for the Milwaukee Bucks. I assume he starts.

1343
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you start? Yeah, I mean start.

1344
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: He'll at least play a lot. I mean, yeah, will,

1345
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's what we get from

1346
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: Dame tonight. But I think he's a He's gonna have

1347
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: a tough matchup, like if he starts or if he

1348
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: comes off the bench, regardless, he's gonna be matched up

1349
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: against a Halliburton unlikely or harden emhard played awesome, I thought.

1350
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: And that's just a big, big ask I think for

1351
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: coming back from a month off to go into a

1352
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: a playoff game and be against a Pacers team that

1353
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: loves to run and gun, likes to play with some speed,

1354
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: and they're gonna put Dame into a lot of actions

1355
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: if he's on the court. They're a team that likes

1356
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: to target somebody and Dame can be targetable. So wow,

1357
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: that's gonna that changes things up.

1358
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: We shall see exciting. Yeah. I think it's a positive

1359
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: to start him just because Yannis will have somebody that

1360
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: he can rely on a little bit more because he

1361
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: I think it would have benefited the Bucks to try

1362
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: and get Kuzma Lopez and Torrian Prince shooting that thing

1363
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: in their starting lineup a little bit more, and Dame

1364
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: will definitely shoot. He'll definitely get his shots up despite

1365
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: the defensive thing, which is a yeah, a decline for

1366
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: the Bucks because I think Ryan Rollins was decent at

1367
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: getting after Haliburt and just doing what he was supposed

1368
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: to do. That's a great question whether or not he'll start.

1369
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 3: Hopefully he is healthy. He probabcticed Thursday before getting this

1370
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 3: thing going, so he was in a five on five situation,

1371
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 3: so it seems like if he practiced Friday, he also

1372
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: did a three on three on Wednesday. You know, the Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

1373
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 3: That's all several days of practice. So I'm guessing that

1374
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 3: he'll he'll.

1375
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: Start last game March eighteenth for Dame Lillard.

1376
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool.

1377
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: All right, so Memphis, they got blown out in game.

1378
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: When you think they'll keep it closer, you think they'll

1379
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 2: keep it within fifty one.

1380
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: I think Jaw will have a better game. I think

1381
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 3: Jab was sort of cut in between a lot of

1382
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 3: the times where okay, see would show him bodies and

1383
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: Jaw would kind of get up for his shot but

1384
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: make passes. He just wasn't clicking. And that happens from

1385
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: games one to games two, which we'll probably see in

1386
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 3: Lebron versus Minnesota segue that nice, So we'll see. We'll

1387
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: see how many they lose by. It feels like, okay

1388
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: see will they won't allow too many points?

1389
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think okay See still wins, but I think

1390
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: they keep it under fifty one.

1391
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 3: And j Jackson Jr. Has been called out man Kendrick Perkins,

1392
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 3: that guy even a top ten big man in the NBA.

1393
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: Why am I repeating what Kendrick Perkins is saying? I

1394
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: don't know. Jeron Jackson Junior is a very good player

1395
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 3: who's going to be focused on scoring more than five points.

1396
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 3: That's what he had in Game one, I believe. So yeah,

1397
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 3: there's that, and then the Minnesota LA game, which there's

1398
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: going to be better.

1399
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: Need a little defense from the Lakers in this one.

1400
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be scrappier.

1401
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, no Torby scrappier. Lebron has been known

1402
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: to give up a game and one. Let's see what

1403
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: he's got in game two, cause Timberwolves played basically perfect basketball,

1404
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: like that was a top five percent outcome. I think

1405
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: for a Minnesota game. The way they were shooting the

1406
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: threes and the playmaking, they looked awesome. The Lakers looked terrible.

1407
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: So Hopefully it bounce back for LA and then maybe

1408
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: we'll come back tomorrow. Three more series tied one one.

1409
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't upset with both road teams winning last night.

1410
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 2: Pretty cool stuff, Clipper bros. You heard it here first,

1411
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

1412
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember a nice tea is

1413
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 3: a great way of enjoying an afternoon. That's what I'll

1414
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 3: be doing when I am mashing up two things and

1415
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 3: what I've been doing for the last five minutes here.

1416
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 3: When you mentioned the Tim McMahon article about the health

1417
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: staff with the Dallas Mavericks and two guys the double

1418
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: Beats Benton, I do know what the other one's name is.

1419
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: I started looking up for or looking for Benson Boone's name,

1420
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: because Benson Boone sings the lays name great song I

1421
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: Want You, I Need You, I sing exactly like him. Anyways,

1422
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna mash off the Benson Boone and the Betton

1423
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: and whoever the other guy is. Somehow I'm gonna do something,

1424
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna enjoy my tea. That's probably gonna be

1425
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 3: the best part of my afternoon.

1426
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: YEA, come back tomorrow to hear how task actually combines

1427
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 2: these two.

1428
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna sing it better than that. That was disrespectful. Bone, no, no, no,

1429
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: I got way better than It's funnier to say get bad,

1430
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 3: but pets food you can sing, that's all.

1431
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: Guy's got some pipes. Embrace the Earth people,