1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsons on 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the start of our 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: number two And Matt, we are not going to do 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: a mock draft. We're not going to do anything fantasy related. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: We're just going to talk. Continue to talk a little 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: NFL here. And Judy Battista on NFL dot com has 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: ranked the most vulnerable reigning division champions and we'll start 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: at the bottom here. Does this mean the most vulnerable 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: or the least the least vulnerable at the bottom, I 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: know who I would pick. Who would you pick? Buffalo? 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: That's who she picked. And that's because I would agree 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: with that. Those other teams in that division. It's not 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: threatening thing today that the New England Patriots. The odds 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: have come out. You can you can go find the 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: odds for each they're what they are like. You can 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: bet a week fifteen game. You can bet it now. Yeah, okay, right. 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: The Patriots are favored in eleven other games this year. Wow. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: They won four games last year. 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: Their divisions that bad, but well, two teams two thirds 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: of their opponents and divisions. 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: They shouldn't be favored in eleven games. 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here thinking, whatever that site is, I might 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: just bet Anti Patriots seventeen times and I bet I win. 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: They shouldn't be giving points to that many. Are you 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: kidding me? 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: I don't really even care who they play. No, that's 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: that one's brutal, So real quick on Buffalo, I've been. 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: I know it's kind of old news, but the schedule stuff, 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: they're one of the teams that travels the least mileage. 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: And then the other thing that I was looking at 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: is how many time zones you actually cross it there's 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: just two. Like, they don't go any where. Everything's close 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: to home. They you know, even Miami's in their time zone. 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: They're probably five and one in the division. At worst, 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: less disaster hits, they're going to be my pick to 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: be number one. 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: Seed in the Yeah. I think I think that's safe. 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they have it set up nicely even 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: if their offseason doesn't go as planned. 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: You know, who would you have at seven? 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta think who everybody was? It was the Ravens. 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: It was the Texans. It was the Chiefs, Eagles, Box 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: Lions edged out the Vikes and the Rams. 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Right, Bucks, she's going with the Chiefs. 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: I have respect though, for those other three teams more 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 3: than I have. Yeah, I have respect for the coaching. 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: They can't beat the Chiefs. So that's the problem. 51 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: That's the inherent issue here is that Andy Reid and 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes have redult lose in that division. It's cury 53 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: and if you're not losing division games, right, it's. 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 3: Pretty good place to start. Yeah, they two if they're 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: five and one, pretty good place to start. NFC South, 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: So weak though, I understand that, and the Bucks have 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: put a pretty good it's not a Chief level of dominance, 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: but they seem to win that division every year. 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: Now, it was close, so loud, the Falcons were nipping 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: at their heels, and the Falcons actually beat them both times. 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: That was a big key. 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: Like, I think the Chiefs are better than the Bucks. 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: It's a strong point about beating the teams in division. 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: I just think that now they might have three quarterbacks 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: and they definitely have three coaches. 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: They've won. The Chiefs have won the AFC West nine 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: years in a row. Last year they won it by 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: four games, and I bet they over the nine years 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: they have like four losses probably, so it's about that. 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: I bet their average record in the division is like 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: five and a half the half of the law. Yeah, 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: they don't get beat often in the division. 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: And probably never, as it happened twice under those two. 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: I do think the division's better, but they're still pretty 75 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: clearly one. Yeah, I don't know if the Chargers are better. 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if they are not. 77 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: They had so much cap space I thought their roster 78 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: would look a little better, you know, like Chris Godwin 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: on something like that. 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: And say, and this year the Chargers are setting the 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: record for the most travel, like they've got all kinds 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: of advantage anyway working against them, right right. 83 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I love the coaching quarterback situation, not as 84 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: much my homes and Reid. But I don't know if 85 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: they'll go forward this year as everyone. 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: Thinks at six, she has Tampa Bay. 87 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: Okay, we've kind of talked through that, but they probably 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: are four or five with division wins as well. 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, Carolina and New Orleans are pretty raw. Unks 90 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: New Orleans is really bad. They might be the worst 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: team in the league. But Carolina is still far away 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: from respectibility and Atlanta is still trying to figure some 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: things out. I could see the Falcons winning that division. 94 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: I don't think that's insane, or even getting in the 95 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: playoffs period. Penix has to be good. I think we're 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: putting the cart before the horse on Penis a little. 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: It was a promising start, but let's see more than 98 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: four games or whatever it was. 99 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: You know, he's got a good offensive line, he's got 100 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: a good running back. He's got good targets to throw too. 101 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: I mean, they have a pair of safeties. They might 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: even have a pair a pass rush Terrell's. They don't 103 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: care if they I'm not talking about trading their first 104 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: round pick next year. 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: But they're They're in a better position right now than 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: same Minnesota is with McCarthy because they've at least gotten 107 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: to see it and they've got to practice all last season. 108 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, yeah, all that stuff. That's what you 109 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: were saying. 110 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: I thought you meant like in their Division two, like 111 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: the Vikings might be better than the Falcons. 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: But I know more. I know more about Penix right 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: now than I know about McCarthy. 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: Yes, and I also don't have Packers Bears, right, I 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: get to replace them with Carolina in warlets like. 116 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: A little bit of a difference, a little bit of 117 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: a difference. So those are would be the six and 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: seven at five. Okay, who do we got left? We 119 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: got Rams or I'm gonna go Texans? Yeah that's who 120 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: she went, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still don't have a 121 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: ton of respect for the other three teams. I don't 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: have a ton of respect for the Texans, but. 123 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: Right, I thought they kind of wanted by default and 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: limp kind and in the end, I do think it's 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: a good defense. 126 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of the O line. 127 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy to say, can't be any worse. 128 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: It can always worse than that. 129 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: That's why that's a pet peeve of mine this time 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: of year. Can't be any worse, can't get any more injured, 131 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: can't Oh, everything can get worse. Have you not been 132 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: watching this league. 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: Year after year? It's not easy, but the receivers will 134 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: really respect unless you go, oh in seventeen right, right, right, 135 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: that's the only way, right, A situation can't get any worse. 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're the most injured team in the league, 137 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 3: you probably won't be again. That kind of stuff is valid, 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: But don't tell me the O line can't get worse. Yeah, 139 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: you trade your two best players aren't on the team 140 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: at that position. I mean, it should get better, but 141 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: don't just assume everything gets better. But they would be 142 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: a pretty easy choice there. 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm kind of surprised at who she has it for. Well, 144 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: not really, because we're going backwards here. She has I 145 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: think the Rams. Yeah, I think they're pretty clearly number 146 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: one in that division. But the other three teams are good. 147 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: The other three teams are all I don't like. The 148 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: Rams are head and shoulders above. I think that Adams 149 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: pick up really helps. 150 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: The thing I like about with their off season was well, 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: of course they kept Stafford, they got nothing out of 152 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: the draft, so what. But they added like Poonaford and 153 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: a couple more D linemen just to a rotation that 154 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: was already young and good. And I think Adams might 155 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: be as big of an addition as there is in 156 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: the league. 157 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: You know, Cup was shot. 158 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: And if you can match him with Niakua and I 159 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: have a lot of McVeigh or a lot of McVeigh trust. 160 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: But those other three teams aren't bad. If you can 161 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: make a case for Seattle or Arizona or San Franz 162 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: to maybe win the division or get in the playoff. 163 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 2: Oh see, Seattle, I think they're clearly lasting that division, 164 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: really I do. 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: I think san Franz clearly two. I don't know who 166 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: I prefer out of Arizona's. 167 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: I think Arizona is moving the right way. I think 168 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: Seattle is just kind of stagnated this year a little bit. 169 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: I think they took a step back, yeah, to kind 170 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: of reset some things. 171 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: I really like Arizona's coaching staff and the fact that 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: they have like one hundred defensive linemen now that they 173 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: had none. I think that's a good start. I think 174 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: Seattle is a defense though, But I don't know if 175 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: the offense is better. 176 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it is. 177 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: I don't think it's better, right, I mean maybe the 178 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: interior line is better. But yeah, the Rams, I don't 179 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: have a problem putting that spot at three. 180 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: What you have left for are the Lions, Ravens, Eagles, 181 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: three teams. I think a lot of people will consider 182 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: three of the top six or seven teams in the league. 183 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm torn between the Ravens and Eagles here. I'm gonna 184 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: say the Eagles, and she went with the Eagles. I 185 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: think Washington takes a little step back. 186 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: I think they take a step back. We might be 187 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: putting the cart before the horse a little bit with 188 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. 189 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: I don't think the Cowboys are contender contender. I think 190 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: they're ten win max. I think there's still holes on 191 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: that team. I don't even care about like running back. 192 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: And their schedules. I might have the Eagles lower on 193 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: this list. Maybe they're really good. They're really good the 194 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: way you know again, I think I think Dallas has 195 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: a ceiling. Yeah, I don't think Washington. I don't think 196 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: Washington is going to be as good as this is 197 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: a four team win team last year. 198 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: You're right right, Washington's D is pretty bad. They're kind 199 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: of Bengal West. 200 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: I would I think I'd have the Eagles behind the Rams. 201 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really good. I mean they didn't really lose 202 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 3: much either. They kept on Yad Campbell next to them. 203 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: I think I would too, and they lost a couple 204 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: of things on the d line, but they can afford 205 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: it coaching strong. 206 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: The only thing that could derail them is the Barkley 207 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: touches that many touches as he got last year. Does 208 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: he stay healthy all year long? But they were good 209 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: without him, They were good without him, They were great 210 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: the year before. They remember that what they los five 211 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: their last five games? 212 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, fired a lot of people, right, Noumber, I'm 213 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: with you. They should maybe be four or so on 214 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 3: that list, not. 215 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: Three at two are the Ravens. 216 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's clearly the Lions are one. Yeah, 217 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: tough that divisions are. 218 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: Awful, But this show goes to show you the AFC 219 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: North is with Cleveland. 220 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: I would say Cleveland to me is much less of 221 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: a threat than they were one year ago. I mean 222 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: one year ago they were like eight and a half 223 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: win total, which we both took the under, but you 224 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 3: thought maybe Watson might be okay, and the defense was 225 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: coming off a great year, especially at home. 226 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: And but now they're not a threat at all. I 227 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: think Vegas is overrating Cincy though I think they are, 228 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: and I think they're underrating the Steelers to a large degree. 229 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: Some people are telling me you can't even bet some 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: Steelers stuff yet, like they're the only team that's off 231 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: the board, which tells you a lot, like they know 232 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: another shoe's going to drop a quarterback. 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: Lest we forget, Yes, the Steelers lost their last two 234 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: games to the Ravens last year. Yeah, in as badly 235 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: as they could lose them. Prior to that, they had 236 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: won eight of nine games against the Ravens. They had 237 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: handled them pretty consistently. Yeah. And you know, now it's all, well, 238 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: they can't they can't compete with the Ravens. No, No, two 239 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: games last year at the end of the year, they 240 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: did not compete well with the Ravens. Prior to that, 241 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: they were very much getting the better of the Ravens. Yeah. 242 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: No, I think that's absolutely noteworthy. And even just looking 243 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: back over a decade, they're almost five hundred against each other, 244 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: if not leaving the Steelers way. 245 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: Over the last decade. 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: Right, and again, do we really think the Steelers will 247 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: have a losing record in the division? 248 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think the Ravens will either. Right. No, 249 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: I don't agree with you. 250 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: Right, But I mean, just looking at like the Super 251 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: Bowl wards, the one that I would bet on last 252 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: is the Bengals. They're like, they're like the fourth shortest 253 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: or fifth shortest. 254 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: In the Again, we talked about it in the previous hour. 255 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: How fragile of a build, that is. 256 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: Right, I mean even losing T Higgins would hurt some 257 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: bad or if Hendrickson sits out let alone Burrow or Chase, 258 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, but they're good. 259 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: I mean they're a good team. Yeah. 260 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: Well, it prohibits the Raven's ability to be higher or 261 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: lower on this list for sure, But I just don't 262 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: think they're like a top five super Bowl contender. I'm 263 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: not applying the Steelers should be, but no, I don't 264 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: think the Bags are. 265 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 2: I could I could write a path Let's say Lamar 266 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: gets hurt where Derrick Henry gets hurt. Yeah. Yeah, the 267 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: Ravens are a much different team right without one of 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: those two guys. 269 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: But they could limp into the playoffs where if Burrow 270 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: or Chase gets hurt, they can't, right, and there's no 271 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 3: doubt about it. Like I could write a story with 272 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: the Bengals pick fifth. 273 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: I mean, if it didn't completely fall apart for them 274 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: a couple of years, that's a good point. Got hurt 275 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: they did? I mean it was a month or a 276 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: nine and eight season, right, right, and he has not 277 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: been a pillar health But I mean that's unfair. 278 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: I mean if Allen gets hurt. It'd be bad, right, 279 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: it's any course, of course. But they're real dependent on 280 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: just a few dudes. 281 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: And that leads us with the Lions agreed at number one. 282 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: And if I were to do a power ranks, I 283 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: bet they'd be in my top four. I mean, I 284 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: think they're one of the best teams in the league. 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: But if the Bears are the worst team in your division, 286 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: then two other legit playoff teams are there. That's a 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: little scary. And you kind of snuck out of that 288 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: division over the Vikings with the skin of your teeth. Anyway, Yeah, 289 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: it's fifteen and two right. 290 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: Again, you had a good year. 291 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: You went fifteen and two, right, and you barely won 292 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: your division. I don't love losing two coordinators either. 293 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: I don't love that. I'm sure they'll be good at 294 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: the same time, again, I think McCarthy is a big 295 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: question mark. 296 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: Love is still a question mark back to our quarterback conversation, 297 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: and so is Williams. 298 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: And I think I think people are putting the cart 299 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: before the horse a little bit still with the with 300 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: the Bears. Yeah, I have such mixed feelings because I 301 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: like and this happy I fall for this trap with 302 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: the Bears too often, Like I like what they've done 303 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: on paper, they build a everybody just assumes that Ben 304 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: Johnson is going to be a great hit, right, and 305 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: it rarely goes that way. 306 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: And I just think the Bears are a losing organization. 307 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: I get old and grizzled, and I sometimes just look 308 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: at like the Jets, the Browns, the Bears, like there's 309 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: a reason you guys lose every year, and there's a 310 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: reason you guys don't develop quarterbacks my whole life, And 311 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: why do we think this guy is gonna be different? 312 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: The interesting thing to me about the NFC North this 313 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: year is we got you know, everybody talked about how 314 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: crazy Campbell is in terms of going forward off fourth 315 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: down and look at all these these plays that they've 316 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: come up with. Was that Campbell giving Johnson the freedom 317 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: to do that? And then does Johnson then, as a 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: head coach, roll the dice the same way? I gotta 319 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: be interested, which was was Campbell the governor? Right? Was he? 320 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: You know? Holding things back with Johnson? Is Johnson just 321 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: gonna go crazy and you're gonna see Piney Seoul trying 322 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: to throw passes right right, right right? I mean that 323 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: was the dumbest play I've ever seen. It's funny, like 324 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: the Chief. Nobody talks about the stuff when it doesn't work. 325 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: He had a Seul throwing a pass. It's like the 326 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: ring around the Rosie Chief stuff that they do too. 327 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: Like it's cute when it works and we laugh when 328 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: it can be disastrous when it does. Disaster too, Yeah, exactly, 329 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: and you get away with it. They gave up one 330 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: sack in that game, and it was Pine Soul getting sacked. 331 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: What's wrong with that picture because you had him trying 332 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: to drop back and throw a pass. Yeah, Oh, this 333 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: will be really funny. 334 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: I bet that's Campbell. I think Campbell's aggressive, aggressive, aggressive, 335 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: never going to tell my players, no excel. 336 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: And that's what we're gonna that's what we're gonna find 337 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: out now. Johnson inherit that. Yeah, is Johnson going to 338 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: coach that way right? Right? Because everybody just assumes he's 339 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: going to see I think that's when you're the head 340 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: guy and it's your head on the chopping block. Now 341 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: you get to answer for it. And you're in Green 342 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: Bay and the snow's flying and you're on your own 343 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: thirty and it's fourth and two are you going for it? 344 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: And you don't have Penny soool, you get behind, you 345 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: get you know, you don't have those two running backs. 346 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: You don't have sol And now it's you. 347 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: Know, I mean, I know that's why they invested in 348 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: No Line is to start that trend. Right, that's an 349 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: interesting one. Well Johnson mimic Campbell or will he even 350 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: take a step further right with Campbell holding him back? 351 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's interesting. Yeah, So anyways, I thought 352 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: that was an interesting little conversation. Yes, let's get to 353 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. 354 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 355 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. At least. 356 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 357 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 358 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 359 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is 360 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on Steelers Audio Network. 361 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: And Matt no video today the show. So if you're 362 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: looking on YouTube and you've said there's no video today 363 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: because we didn't do one today, Tyler is off, which 364 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: of course can still hear the show everywhere. That's everywhere else, Yeah, 365 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: everywhere else. And of course you and download the Steelers 366 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: mobile app. It's the best way to get the show 367 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: because you know, to go searching for him, you know. 368 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: So anyways, let's uh, let's get back to that, back 369 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: to the discussion and a ton going on in the 370 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: league at the moment, there really isn't. But Matt Bowen 371 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: has come up on ESPN with some best team fits 372 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: for remaining NFL free agents. I saw that and I 373 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: thought was pretty good. And there are some names out there, 374 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: some name guys out there. Some of them are more 375 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: names than players at this point, which is part of 376 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: the issue, part of the issue. So some guys unsigned, 377 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of surprised are unsigned. Yeah, maybe that 378 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: starts to come soon. Or some of the veterans aren't 379 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: big on OTA's and that kind of stuff too, and 380 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: they want to set that out. But yeah, let's go 381 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: through it. So his first guy on here is Keenan Allen, 382 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: and his best fit for Keenan Allen, he says, is 383 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Hmm, I disagree. I do too. 384 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: I've done a fair amount of Marvin Harrison homework lately. 385 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: And I think he's so interesting because he never ran 386 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: a forty. He kind of got grandfathered in as this 387 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 3: awesome prospect Ohio State Marvin Harrison Junior, you know. And 388 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's bad at all, but he's got 389 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: short arms, he's got small hands, and he's not super fast. 390 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: I think what they need is to make him the 391 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen and go get the burner. And they weren't 392 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: very kind to him his rookie year. 393 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: He was always like on the line of scrimmage X 394 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: beat man coverage be a superstar today. And I'm not 395 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: saying he can't be a star. I don't think he'd 396 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: be a superstar. 397 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: But if they moved him around in like a Cedee 398 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: Lamb type of fashion, that would do him a lot 399 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: of good. And therefore I would not be in the 400 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: Keenan Allen market. 401 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: And Trey McBride is a tight end a ton right, right, 402 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: does a lot of the same things that Keenan Allen does. 403 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: Right again, maybe Allan would be a good leader and 404 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: all that stuff for them, great, but. 405 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: They need more of it. To your point, an outside guy, right, 406 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: you've got a tight end that that's going to catch 407 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: a hundred passes. You've got Marvin Harrison, who might be better. 408 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: He's good in the middle, might be physic mid field. Absolutely, 409 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: you don't need another middle of the field beat. 410 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: And even like Wilson's their their next guy. 411 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 2: He's fine. 412 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying this is a good player, 413 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: but give me like Valdez Scantling to run go routes 414 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: on the outside and open things up. You know, yeah, 415 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: I don't agree with that one. 416 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: His next guy here is Julian Blackman, the safety and 417 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: the best fit this This one makes perfect sense. 418 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills, I think that's ideal. I'm shocked that 419 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: they didn't really get aggressive its safety. 420 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm kind of shocked black Men still available to a 421 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: pretty good player. 422 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 3: We talked about him leading into free agency, like, oh, 423 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: it'd be a nice pick up, you know, on the 424 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: cheep or whatever. Then that's two years in a row 425 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: that he's hung out there a little longer and sought. 426 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: Safety position is a tough one. I was so bad 427 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: for the guys. Yeah. 428 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: I don't think he did anything wrong or there's one 429 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: injury I know about, But all of a sudden, the 430 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: every team has two and then they're not calling. And 431 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: he's definitely a starter and deserves starter money. But that's 432 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: how you get Thornhill on the cheap. 433 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I mean it's a nice place to 434 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: If I was a safety short right now. 435 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be losing my mind. Yeah right, And I 436 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: think the Bills are a safety short. 437 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: They might be two safety Yeah. His next guy's a 438 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: Marii Cooper and his best team fit is the Jets. 439 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: I think his best team fit might be the Steelers. 440 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: Wouldn't break my heart. Why would the Jets sign a 441 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Marii Cooper who's their number two at the moment. But 442 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 2: the Tazard they get Lazard, they get Josh Reynolds. I mean, 443 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: they do need another receiver, say they're second receiver. But 444 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: if I'm a Marii Cooper, why would I want to 445 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: go to the Jets? 446 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: I probably don't. I get it from the team perspective, 447 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: but I would. I could find a better spot if 448 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm a mari Yeah yeah, JK. Dobbins, he could still 449 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 3: move even though he's kind of under contract. The best 450 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 3: team fit is the Commanders. 451 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: I guess I've never been sold on Robinson Eckler has 452 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: a lot. He just turned thirty over the weekend. 453 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he still can chip in as true 454 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: third down only guy, but he's never gonna be, you know, 455 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: the top five pick in fantasy goal line contributor that 456 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: he once was. 457 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: I could think of several teams that could still use 458 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: a JK. Dobbins, me too, The Saints, Dallas, even Denver. 459 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean I knew they used a pretty good pick, 460 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: but I mean there's a handful of spots. 461 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell me you're sold on the you know, 462 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: your third round rookie being your unquestioned starter. 463 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: Hand him the job, yeah, you know, to protect protect anybody. 464 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean, is he as good as Chase Brown? Could 465 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: he compete with him and make that a two headed backfield? 466 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: I could come up with a bunch I could eat, 467 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: Like Minnesota could use him. Yeah. 468 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: Well, they traded for Mason, which I never understood, but 469 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: I mean they did the Bears. 470 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: Mason was fine until they get hurt. Yeah yeah, and 471 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: then he kept getting hurt, right, you know, And Aaron 472 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: Jones doesn't exactly have a great like Hesses games every year. 473 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: If I were them, I would try to lessen Jones's 474 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: workload a little right, it's just to make him better, right, right. 475 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean I thought they push the limit on him 476 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: a little bit. But to your point, Chicago could use him. 477 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I found odd is as good as this 478 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: running back draft is. And we've talked it to no end. 479 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 3: I'm doing these dynasty drafts now, and when you get 480 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: out of the top, like the first fifteen picks or whatever, 481 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: there aren't many running backs. I'm like, boy, I need 482 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: to grab that guy, you know, like, because I don't 483 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: know that they landed in great spots or they're not 484 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: quite ready, and you know, put Dobbins on the Chiefs. 485 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: The Chiefs will make a lot of sense. Right. How 486 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: about the forty nine ers? Yeah, right, right right? I 487 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: mean I've been told that ideally they want McCaffrey to 488 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: do more debo stuff, right, They don't want to just 489 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: run in between attackles and beat the crap out of them. 490 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: Right, he even be out wide? No, he's got spots. 491 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rasul Douglas cornerback. They're saying the best team fit 492 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: is the Seahawks. Okay, he's a traditional big Seahawks. I 493 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: don't know. He just doesn't run very well, right, He 494 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: never ran well to begin with Okay, Mike Hilton is 495 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: still out there. Yeah, and he's saying the best team 496 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: fit is the Falcons. It brings some tough His blitzing 497 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 2: would be something they could certainly use. They don't sack anybody, 498 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: they get three to five out of him. Yeah, even 499 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: gotten right, and that's really that's what he does. 500 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: I mean, all these would be one year deals. I 501 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: think that Good was saying, but Hilton's little body has 502 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: taken a beating. Yeah, he's in a league a long time, 503 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: tackling Derrick Henry and Nausey and the dudes in this division. 504 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, I saw that one. Just like, okay, 505 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: the best fit is still with the Steelers. I was 506 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: hoping he'd get a receiver or something for the Steelers 507 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: when Derek Carr retired, and people saying, man, maybe Aaron 508 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: Rodgerson will go to the to the Saints. I'm like, 509 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: are you out of your mind? Come on, man, he's 510 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: comparing the Steelers roster to that of the Saints. They're 511 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: not even close. 512 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, like you mentioned Flacca, like the worst 513 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: quarterback rooms and we talked about I mentioned the Browns, like, 514 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 3: oh it's Saints yeah, it is the Saints. But like 515 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: if the Saints said, hey, Cleveland, you got four quarterbacks, 516 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: we trade for Flacco, Flaco just says I retire. 517 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm not going, right. I mean, that's the disaster. 518 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: They had no weapons. There's just no upside to the 519 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: team right now. Yeah, right, Assante Samuel Junior. I'm surprised 520 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: that one out there. Is there a need that we 521 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: gotta be I mean, he's missed a lot of time 522 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: over there. 523 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: Yes, there must be some physical problem. 524 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: And they're saying the Dolphins would be which I assume 525 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: Ramsey won't be back. They didn't draft anybody that was 526 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: They didn't make that many picks. They had that many 527 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: picks and they didn't really They got a big guy 528 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: in the trenches and then that was about it. Here 529 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 2: are the other cornerback's really bad, especially when Ramseys out 530 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: of the outside of Ramsey and Ramsey, the trade's probably 531 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: gonna happen. So I think he's on this list too. 532 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: Cater cohu already burns storm Duck. It's a great name, 533 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: but I don't know anyone. Yeah, cam Smith, who they 534 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: used a high pick on it, right, but he hasn't 535 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: really worked out Ethan Bonner and the one guy that 536 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: they did draft was Jason Marshall. Marshall like the sixth round. 537 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember Max kind of liked him, but as 538 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: a fifth sixth round yeah right. 539 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 2: He's a developmental cornerback. I don't want him starting in 540 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: week one. 541 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: The minute Ramsey gets traded, that's gonna be one of 542 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: the worst position rooms in the league. 543 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's not gonna be it carding. You're gonna 544 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: be counting on Lady Burns to start. Yeah. And we're 545 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: not on YouTube today, but I'm chuckling. You better hope 546 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Cam Smith gets his act together. Any of those dudes, 547 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: I mean Coho or I always pronounced his name wrong. 548 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: He's okay. They should get They should be calling the 549 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: Browns to talk about one of their cornerbacks. But back 550 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: to our quarterback converse, they don't have any money. They 551 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 2: can't afford there. They pushed all their chips in and 552 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: now they're on such thin ice. Yeah. Justin Simmons is 553 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: out there again this year, always always yeah, and he's 554 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: saying the best team fit is Tampa Bay. Hmmm. They 555 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: have Winfield and the Georgia kid from last year. Smith 556 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: who's kind of a slot. Yeah, I thought they added 557 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: somebody in the draft. I mean, I'm sure Simmons will 558 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: go to a contender type team. I don't think he's 559 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: gonna go the Saints. Simmons, to me, would be a 560 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: perfect fit in Washington because that's just what they do. 561 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Let's go get all the thirty year old guys, dude 562 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: and right. 563 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: He can play with Wagner and those type of guys 564 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 3: and try to win now and help the culture. It's 565 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: not necessarily the worst strategy in the world either, but 566 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: it's living for now. 567 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Zadarius Smith. The best team fit is Detroit, Okay. 568 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: I always find it interesting there's so many of these 569 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: year to year edge pass rushers that are just mercenary mercenaries. 570 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: Now Clowney just got let go. He's another. There's like 571 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: three or four every year. 572 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: This time it was justin Houston for a while. Clowney 573 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: is the best example. It's exactly what. 574 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: They don't play special teams at all. They're just in 575 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: there to come and right rush the pass. 576 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: Right, and they're not good enough to get a huge contract, 577 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: but they're useful as a two. And you know, next 578 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: to Hutchinson. It wouldn't be bad, especially if he drafted somebody. 579 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: But they're always out there. 580 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: Kaiser White, I forgot back there. He's saying the best 581 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: team fit is the Titans. They don't have much there. Yeah. 582 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: Sure he's a good player a couple of year yah, yeah, Yeah, 583 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that he still is. 584 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: But I haven't kept on top of his last three 585 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: and sixty five days or so. But before that he 586 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: was useful. He signed a decent contract. 587 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he also has the best trade fits here JayR Alexander. 588 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's draft any though. Yeah, I 589 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: don't know that he's getting moved. Yeah, but he says 590 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: the best team if it would be the Chargers. Okay, 591 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: they had the money to take on it. They do 592 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: player like that, you'd have to look at teams with money. 593 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: The problem is at this point, I don't know if 594 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: Jyr Alexander is still a good player. I don't know 595 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: what I mean. He has been right right right, He's 596 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: not super old, No, I know he's kind of a 597 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: problem child like, he hasn't been super easy to don't 598 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: know if he works and plays well with others. But 599 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: the Packers didn't draft like any corner. 600 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: I think it was a seventh round pick, was the 601 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: first corner they took, which doesn't exactly imply he's moving 602 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. 603 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: There should be four or five teams interested in. The 604 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 2: best team fit for him is he's saying, are the 605 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: Packers okay? And then all of a sudden Gary becomes 606 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: your two. Yeah. 607 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: I don't know van Ness is ever gonna be good. Yeah, 608 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. Have to be a contender. 609 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 2: I mean if I were the Lions, I'd be very 610 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: aggressive with Henderson. Uh Jalen Ramsey SA. The best team 611 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: fit is going back to the Rams. 612 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: He's been linked there since he asked for a trade. 613 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: Kind of their type of move it is, and he 614 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: wouldn't be nearly as expensive as the first go round 615 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: would not. 616 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Basically had loaned him to the Dolphins for a couple 617 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: of years and then get him back, get. 618 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: Him back at one third price or whatever. I don't 619 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: think he burned any bridges or anything. 620 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. But the problem is you 621 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: got to pay his contract. Say he's expensive, I don't 622 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: think it'd be very expensive draft pick wise, No, I 623 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: think you could probably get him for like a fifth 624 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: just because it's gonna cost you twenty plus million in. 625 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: Cap Yeah, I mean the back seven for the Rams 626 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: is pretty soft. 627 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: They should be a Jyry Alexander. Yeah, that wouldn't be 628 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: bad either, That would be a good pick. Maybe maybe 629 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: the LA teams could trade for both of those guys, 630 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: split the cost, and then they would both only play 631 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: home games. Stay there, just stay you guys, stay here. 632 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna play seventeen games for whichever one of us 633 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: is at home. 634 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: That get him a nice apartment right by the stadium 635 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: and they just walk across the street whenever they want. 636 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: Giants and Jet should figure out something like that. 637 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, why not. They should get a quarterback. Giants and 638 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: Jets should just merge and they still wouldn't have a 639 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: good right and they'd be okay. Anyways, that was Matt. 640 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: That was the end of it. That was the end 641 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: of it there. But there's still some names out. 642 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: There, Oh there are, And I bet there's more trade 643 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: candidates and people know. 644 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always there, always are. Yeah, for let's get 645 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. 646 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here in the Steelers Audio Network, 647 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Matt and I'll be back to finish up the show 648 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: right after this. 649 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 650 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 651 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 652 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the 653 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. We could find out as early 654 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: as tomorrow whether the Tush push oh yeah, this week 655 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: is no longer legal. We could find out about the 656 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: seating for the playoffs, some of the other stuff that's 657 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: going on there. The league having the owners meetings tomorrow. 658 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: They start tomorrow, the end Wednesday. I assume the voting 659 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: will take place on Wednesday, okay, but we may get 660 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: some word before that on some of these things. So 661 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know the answers to this, 662 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: and I apologize if you don't. But do you think 663 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: a lot of them like get their Sunday night, leave 664 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: Wednesday afternoon night and probably getting in today? Okay? You 665 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: think today this is just an owner's meetings? Yeah, it's 666 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: not like I mean, these guys have their own jets 667 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: and stuff, right. 668 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: So part two of that question was I just the 669 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: last two or three years, I've gone to the owner's 670 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: meetings that are more public and we broadcast from from there. 671 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 3: Of course, this one, like Omar Tomlin, those guys aren't. 672 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: Gonna they don't know. It's it's just the owners, okay. 673 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm sure they might think their wives or 674 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: kids or whatever, but. 675 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: It's not Well, they're going to Egan, Minnesota, So I 676 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: don't know if that's exactly on the beaten path. I 677 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: don't know. 678 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: Maybe they have a nemicole in type resort. I'm sure 679 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: that's a pretty nice spot. 680 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's a nice spot. 681 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: But weather this time of year is pretty nice, you know. 682 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is interesting though. I'm reading on ESPN here. 683 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: According to ESPN, the vote on the Tush push, and 684 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: I haven't seen this anywhere else yet, the vote on 685 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: the tush push in the spring last month was sixteen 686 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: sixteen oh as it was come out from what I remember, No, 687 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: they were a table. You need twenty four votes to 688 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: make it pass. So I wonder if this is why 689 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: they didn't tweak anything with it. Say, hey, look, sixteen 690 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: teams wanted to get rid of it. Yeah, yeah, that's 691 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: a pretty strike. You can get you can keep discussing. Yeah, 692 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: if you can get to eight more in the in 693 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: the month we've had in between that are are on 694 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: board with this, this could pass. 695 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: So how do you think this works? I mean if 696 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: coaches and gms aren't there, do you think the owners 697 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: they knew what they voted the first time around? 698 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: Right? But then you talk about it, Yeah, are we 699 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: on the fence on this or are we steadfast? No? 700 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: Or yes? You know, when there were questions asked in 701 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 2: the in the meetings about you know, this proposal, things 702 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: like okay, is it going to be okay? Then to 703 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 2: push the guard? Yeah, things of that nature, right, and. 704 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: So whatever they proposed when we were in Florida, you 705 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: just can't's going to bring it up again. 706 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: You can't. You can't aid whoever lines up behind center 707 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: overtakes the snap from them, even if it's a tight 708 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: end or whoever matter, No aiding of the runner, I 709 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: guess behind the when he lines up behind the center. 710 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: But if you hand it to Jalen Warren and somebody 711 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: pushes him for the first down, that's would still be yeah, okay, 712 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: that would still be fine. All right, Well, maybe it 713 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 2: does change things. Get eight more votes though that seems 714 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: like a lot well, things happen, lobbyings, there's there's lobbying 715 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: that goes on, and really what happens in these kind 716 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: of situations it turns out to be what does the 717 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 2: commissioner want to do in these situations? And in those 718 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: situations it's a lot of times it's what is TV 719 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 2: leaning on the commissioner to get changed? Yeah, Yeah, that's 720 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: a great way of looking at it, which which is how, 721 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: for example, that the kickoff rule got changed. Yeah last year, 722 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: Like I don't know that everybody was completely on board 723 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: with changing the kicking rule, but it got done because 724 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: Roger Goodell went around and rallied the troops a little 725 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: bit about it. 726 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: Roger's going to be in Minnesota, Yeah, as his NFL officials, and. 727 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: He's probably been talking to different owners, you know, and 728 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: he knows how they voted, Like, hey, yeah, you know, 729 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: were you sold on not? 730 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: That's how I was sitting here thinking if it was 731 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 3: sixteen sixteen, I bet there's eight teams that are yes, 732 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 3: there's eight teams that are no, and that leaves sixteen 733 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 3: in the middle, like we don't care that much. Yeah, 734 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: we know inside the Eagles are on you know, we 735 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: know it's side. Probably the Eagles opponents are on right, 736 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: but I mean the Steelers, for example, or the Ravens 737 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: or whoever might be like, it's a coin flip to me. 738 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you could probably convince me the way, and 739 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: if TV ratings are going to spike by zero point 740 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 3: zero two percent, that still means millions of dollars. Let's 741 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 3: do it, you know, or it doesn't matter. You know, 742 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: well we won't do it, you know. 743 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: Or you know. It's the same way things work in Congress. 744 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: You know that you have your Sena the or you 745 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: have your majority leader, you get your whip, and their 746 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 2: job is a rally the troops on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 747 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: get the votes needed to get something past. If they 748 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: hey we got to get this passed. You know, we're 749 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: going to fight against this. It's kind of similar in 750 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: this situation. I'm sure. 751 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: I mean sure, there's only thirty two votes, and it 752 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: would really be that hard to sway several of them. 753 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: Probably not, so I could. I could see. So there 754 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: will be news in the next two days. I could 755 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: see the Toush push getting banned. I could see it. 756 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: I could too. I kind of hope. I didn't think 757 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: that was going to be the case when they came 758 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: back with the same exact proposal, But I didn't know 759 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: that the vote was just close. 760 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 3: Knowing it was sixteen sixteen shocked me. Yeah, when you 761 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 3: said that just now at first I heard, I figured 762 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 3: it was. 763 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: Like twenty in favor, you know. Yeah, so that's subject 764 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: to change. Yeah, that could, that could definitely. I don't 765 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm of the mind that I don't hate the fact 766 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: that the Eagles found a loophole. No, I'm proud of 767 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: them and the teams that the teams that use it. 768 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: I just don't like to play. I don't either. I 769 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: don't like watching it. No, I think it's I think 770 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 2: it's boring. 771 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 3: I think it's rugby. Yeah, and again, I do think 772 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 3: there's a lot of room for injuries. We haven't seen them, 773 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: but I think there's a lot of room for injury. 774 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just haven't seen that many of the play 775 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, Mike Tomlin said it was like one hundred 776 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: and seventy that have happened that have actually push pushes 777 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: that have actually happened. Seemed it would seem like there's 778 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: way more than that, right, But that's that's how many 779 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: there have been since this whole whole thing started. And 780 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: you know, everything that happens in sports, people ask me 781 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 2: all the time, if I'm umpiring a baseball game, why 782 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: is that a rule? You know, because the baseball rule 783 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 2: book is ridiculously thick, because at some point something happened 784 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: address and people, you know, why is there an infield 785 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: fly rule? Because somebody figured out. Somebody figured out if 786 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: I let this ball go up and then I drop 787 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: it at the last second, I can get double I 788 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: can get a double play really easily, or a triple play, 789 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 2: you know whatever. That was definitely not in the first Constitution. 790 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: Something at some point, something happened and somebody said, we 791 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: can't let that happen again. That's that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Yeah, 792 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: and that same thing happened. What happens in every sport, 793 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: every sport, I'm sure you know you're constantly tweaking the 794 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: rules to add or subtract things out of the game 795 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: because somebody found a loophole. 796 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 3: And maybe only happens twice a year, but it happens. 797 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 3: And what if it happens in the Super Bowl? 798 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: Think about that. You know, they changed the rule a 799 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Remember when vrabel was in Tennessee 800 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: playing against Belichick and they kept taking penalties because it 801 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 2: kept Yeah yeah, like they closed that loophole, and Washington 802 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: kind of did it against the push push too. We're 803 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: going to jump off side every time, right, Yeah, we're 804 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: gonna make a mocker. Nobody wants to watch that. 805 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and has anyone given thought to I know that 806 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: it could change, but bouncing down the sideline on one 807 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 3: foot and then getting pushed out of bounds is not 808 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 3: a catch. 809 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: You know, honestly that one. And I know if Steeler 810 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: fans were it efected them off up in arms about it. 811 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: I can say two feet, it does say two feet. 812 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: And I've seen that one happen twice in thirty three years. 813 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, yeah, because it used to be like 814 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: the one foot in twice. 815 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: You know. Now you can force that. You just force 816 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: the guy out of bounce and it's not a catch, 817 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 2: or if he gets a knee down accounts. The older 818 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: rule was if the guy was up in the air 819 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 2: and the officials deemed that he would have come down 820 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: in bounds, you got to catch. You got the catch. 821 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: That was one of the loopholes that actually have helped 822 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: the one of the changes lately that actually helped defense. 823 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: Now you just if that guy's up in the air 824 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 2: along the sidelines, you shove them at a bounce. 825 00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 3: I'll pick him up and throw him the third b 826 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 3: you can throw him right out of the ring if 827 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 3: you want, right, And that's one of the perks they had. 828 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: That used to be a catch. Yeah, I don't remember that. Yeah, So, 829 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean the league is constantly changing rules in that fact, 830 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 2: what the gurbage was, but would have come in bund 831 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: would have landed in bounds. Yeah, Yeah, And that used 832 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 2: to be a catch, like even if you landed both 833 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: feet out of bounds because the dB shoved you out. No, 834 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: he was he was gonna was going to be in 835 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: which I guess I'd rather be the ref now. Yeah, 836 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: Like I don't know if he's gonna be I can 837 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: see his feet now, I don't guess he did not 838 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 2: come in. Yeah, picked don't let him land and last 839 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: him anyway. So we'll get some we'll start to get 840 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 2: some news trickling out about those things. Uh. They're also 841 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: going to vote on whether or not they're going to 842 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 2: allow players to try out for the Olympic flag stuff too. 843 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 2: Is that part of the vote that will be part 844 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: of everything that comes out of this this week as well. 845 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 2: Beton knows. Yeah, yeah, But anyways, that's going to do 846 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: it for our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, 847 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: for Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller 848 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: hotline and the soundboard, and well no Tyler Vittmyer today, 849 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: but I am here and we want to thank you 850 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: for listening to this edition of the Drive on the 851 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.