1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Oh, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: we got a lot to get to today. Of course, 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: why not have hearings in Washington, DC or the origins 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen. Why not Republicans control the House so 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: they get to set the agenda. That's what they're doing. 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that coming up later on. The trial 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: is about to begin. Well, it's beginning for Mark Ridley Thomas, 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: the suspended La City councilman and former La County supervisor 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: who's involved in a corruption case. They found him guilty. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I thought that they finished opening statements and the jury 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: just took a look at him and said, oh, come on, 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: that guy's guilty. Let's not waste our time. Oh you're 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: kind of jury, Yeah, sizing people up quickly. You have 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: the right to a speedy trial. Sure. We're going to 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: begin the show though, by talking to what appears to 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: be the first announced candidate to replace George Gascone as 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: La County District Attorney. This is a deputy d who's 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: been at the La County DA's office since nineteen ninety eight. 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: His name is John McKinney, and he announced he's in 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: the race. It's not until November of twenty twenty four 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna vote. It's not this year, it's next year, 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: but why not get an early start to help with 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: fundraising and build support. And it's a pretty good chance 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: that he'll be on our voter guide for DASH. He's 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: been very outspoken against George Gascon and all the attracity. Yes, 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: we've talked to him before, and there's a collection of 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Deputy das who have had the courage to stand up 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: publicly against the policies of George Gascon. So let's get 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: to John McKinney on and talk more about all this. John, 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm great that afternoon. I have a 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: couple of corrections to start with. Though. First let me 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: say I'm a long time listener, but I believe this 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: is my very first time on your show, So thank 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: you for having Is that right? I believe so? Yeah, 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: of course I would remember being all with you guys. 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: I could have born we talked with you. We've talked 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: to John Lewin. I thought we talked to you too. 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: I remember there were two Johns. Maybe I have a 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: different John in mind. Yeah, well, if it's our first meeting, 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: welcome to the to the show. It's good to have 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: you on. I think, I think what it is is, 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I have seen you on TV so many times talking 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: about Ascone, and it's often while I'm doing the show, 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: like you're you're you're across from me on the TV screen. 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: It's as if you're here. And because I've also been 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: I've also been on your Sisters show, Gary and Shannon 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: a number of a number of times, so you probably 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: heard me there too. Yeah, you're just a part of 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: our life. So John tell us as if we don't 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: know why, Yeah, well, of course, you guys know better 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: than anyone. I'm running because there's a void of leadership 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: in the District Attorney's office and it's leading the chaos 54 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: on our streets. It's leading the chaos within the District 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Attorney's office itself. Homicides are up, as everyone knows, fifty 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: percent over twenty nineteen levels. Most of the victims of 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: those homicides are young and black, Hispanic males, all manner. 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Obsests are exploding around the county. Drug addiction is on 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: the rise. Drug poisoning from Sentinel is killing young people 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and there's been no response from the chief Law Enforcement 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: officer of La County. We have a district attorney who 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: does not make public safety his highest priority, and if 63 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: you ask him directly, he will have a hard time 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: saying that he does make public safety his highest priority 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: because he knows that everything he does belies that fact. 66 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: So I'm running. I want to restore LA criminal justice 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: system to a place where we bring a safety centered 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: approach to public safety. That means that every decision that's 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: made has to be tethered too public safety as its anchor. 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: You've had plenty of runnings with Gascone. In fact, he 71 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: transferred you out of your your former job. Can you 72 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: can you describe, you know what role you had then 73 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: and where you are now? Sure? I worked hard over 74 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: twenty five years to rise the ranks in the District 75 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: Attorney's office, reaching what for many of the pinnacle of 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: any trial assignment for aminal prosecutor, and that's being in 77 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: the Major Crimes Division of the La County DA's office. 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: I worked there for ten years. I had a spotless record, 79 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: never lost a case, tried and prosecuted approximately forty murder cases, 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: and then one day I was just informed that I 81 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: was being transferred to an assignment that largely uh deals 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: with misdemeanor crimes. I was given no explanation for the transfer, 83 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: and so I now sit in a small all office 84 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 1: in East LA haggling with first year public defenders about 85 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: community service. Is there any one of the directives that 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: George Gascone announced shortly after he took office at the 87 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty that stands out to you as 88 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: being the worst of all of them? Oh, that's a 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: difficult question, because because so many are so bad, but 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: bad in different ways. I mean, some are just cruel. 91 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: For example, you know, not supporting victims at parole hearings, 92 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: not even informing them that parole hearings are on the calendar. 93 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: That's just cruel. I worry about our young people. He 94 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: will not. He will not hold young people accountable for 95 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: any misdemeanor crimes and when they commit more serious crimes. 96 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: He has a so called lightest touch philosophy, which results 97 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: in young people being conditioned to believe that there are 98 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: no consequences for antisocial and criminal behavior, which only compounds 99 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the problem. I worry about them, and I worry about 100 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: the parents who are trying to raise them in a 101 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: difficult urban environment, especially in our low income neighborhood. Well, 102 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: if you live in the neighborhood and you see that 103 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: other guys are getting away with everything, what's the motivation 104 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: to be a good guy and follow the law. You 105 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: see them having fun, You see them stealing stuff and 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: making money from it. So why not join the party, 107 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: because you know the D's Office isn't going to do 108 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: anything about it. Absolutely. You know, I grew up in 109 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the eighties when crack cocaine dropped on our cities like 110 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: a bomb, and I was a young man. I was 111 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: about sixteen seventeen years old, and I watched a lot 112 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: of my peers race to the corners to pedal crack cocaine. 113 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: And they went from being like me, dressing like me. Well, basically, 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: we didn't have two nickels to rub together on most days. 115 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you know, they got 116 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: the stands and clothes and big gold ropes around their 117 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: necks and driving fancy rental cars. And for a young 118 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: man like me looking at them, it was very tempting, 119 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: it was very tempting to join them on the block 120 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: and make that kind of money. The difference was, of course, 121 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: my upbringing and the fact that I had this healthy 122 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: fear of being caught and knowing that there would be 123 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: consequences if I got caught. George Gaston has removed that fear, 124 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: that healthy fear. He has removed the consequences. So I 125 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: often say, you know, I was very lucky to grow 126 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: up in a place that didn't have a district attorney 127 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: like George Gaston, because I don't think i'd be sitting 128 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: here talking to you guys right now. I don't think 129 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: I would have become a lawyer. I certainly wouldn't have 130 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: attended the UCLA School of Law. I don't know where 131 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: my life would be if I didn't have the proper 132 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: guard rails that comes from good, strong fear, illustration of justice. 133 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Can you hang on, John? Sure? All right? We're talking 134 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to La County Deputy District Attorney John McKinney, twenty five 135 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: years with the DA's office. He joined when John Wyn 136 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Gilgar City was the DA. Anyway, he is running to 137 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: hopefully knock George Gascon out of office. This won't be 138 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: a vote until November of twenty twenty four, but we'll 139 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: talk more with John when we come back into exciting 140 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: that somebody's already in the race and drawing attention to 141 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: the unbelievable horrible criminal justice system we now have under Gascon. 142 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: John and Ken kf I AM six forty live everywhere 143 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken on 144 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: demand from kf I AM six forty. We continue with 145 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Deputy DA John McKinney. He has been a Deputy DA 146 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: for La County for twenty five years, most recently under 147 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: George Gascone. He was in the Major Crimes Unit for 148 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: ten years when forty for forty in convictions of murder suspects, 149 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: and of course he was transferred. Gascone transferred him to 150 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: a small, lesser office because McKinney spoke out against Gascon's 151 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: horrible policies. Well, now McKinney is announced he's running for 152 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty four against Gascone, and we're going 153 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: to continue talking to him here. Yeah, John, I want 154 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: to ask you this. I asked you before about which 155 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: one of Gascon's directives seems to be the worst. But 156 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: let me come at this angle. Gascone has made it 157 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: very clear every time he's asked that the criminal justice 158 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: system needs overhauling, and he believes that prison sentences long 159 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: ones don't work. He believes that there's a lot of 160 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: systemic racism in the whole system. I mean, how do 161 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: you respond to that? And if listeners don't know you 162 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: are African American? Right, yeah, I am okay, And I 163 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 1: don't know that in my mind. You know, if that 164 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: gives you a different perspective, I don't know. But explain 165 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: to people when Gascon always likes to haul out these 166 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: statistics that he talks about that to back his reforms. 167 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: Respond to all that, well, I think people most people 168 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: know at this point that George Gascon is not a prosecutor. 169 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: He is a politician, and he has ushered in a 170 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: great deal of confusion and politics and political ideologies which 171 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: never existed in the DA's office before he was sworn in. 172 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: We used to be an a political as much as 173 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: you can be an a political organization. I couldn't even 174 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: tell you what the political affiliation was of the prior 175 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: three day three das. I mean, I could guess and 176 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: tell you what they were, but I never thought about 177 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: it before George Gascon was elected as an African American 178 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: in the DA's office. I wouldn't stand for racism by anybody, 179 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: whether it was a prosecutor, a judge, or a defense attorney. 180 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: And I can tell you right now, the Los Angeles 181 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: County Public Defender's Office wouldn't stand for it, nor would 182 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: the private criminal defense bar, nor would the bench in 183 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: La County. There are a lot of checks and balances 184 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: on the operations of criminal justice in Los Angeles County, 185 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: and this is the most diverse county anywhere in the world. 186 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: And it's an affront, I think, especially to our defense attorneys, 187 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: to suggest that they would work in a system right 188 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: with racism. I'll tell you the racism that I worry about, guys, 189 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: is the disproportionately negative impact that George Gascon's policies have 190 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: on black and Hispanic communities, especially the low income communities 191 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: where crime is the highest. That's the racism that we 192 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: should be focused on. I want to talk about that 193 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: because because Gascon uses racism as a shield to protect 194 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: himself from any criticism over his policies by claiming there's 195 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: systemic racism, disproportionate this and that, but nobody has ever 196 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: called him to account. You just did, but nobody calls 197 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: them to account that the victims are disproportionately are mostly 198 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: black and Hispanic, the victims of these criminals. Sure, and 199 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: that's the real and that that leadership needs to come 200 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: from the other electeds in La County, the other electeds 201 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: who have jurisdiction over neighborhoods where people are being victimized, 202 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: They need to stand up and say, well, wait a minute, 203 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: why are homicides up fifty percent over twenty nineteen levels. 204 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: Why are most of the people who are being killed 205 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: on our streets black and Hispanic being killed with guns? 206 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: What are you doing about guns? Why aren't you using 207 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: gun enhancements? Why are you taking the lightest touch to 208 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: criminals who are killing innocent people who look just like 209 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: them and come from the same neighborhoods. George Gaston is 210 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: not the raise those questions. We need the other electives 211 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: to speak up. We need the advocacy groups to speak up. 212 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, certainly I've been speaking up. Other people in 213 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: the DA office have also been speaking up and calling 214 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: attention to these problems, and you guys, of course have 215 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Why do so many politicians and advocacy groups refuse to 216 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: discuss this because we're talking about people who are getting 217 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: severely injured and killed. But in these crimes, I mean, 218 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of heartache going on in these neighborhoods, 219 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: and they seem to have very few defenders. You know. 220 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: The only explanation I can think of is there a 221 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: certain amount of allegiance amongst our electives. We live in 222 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,239 Speaker 1: Los Angeles County. It's no secret that we're a very 223 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: democratic county. A lot of these politicians know each other, 224 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: they're personal friends, they have professional relations and ships. Many 225 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: of them are funded by the same donor. So maybe 226 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: that's an explanation for why no one will stand up 227 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: and speak the truth and speak truth to power. But 228 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: we need more of that. The voters yearned for that 229 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: kind of leadership, and that's one of the reasons I'm running. 230 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: I want to bring that kind of cooperative, but honest 231 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: voice to the discourse around public safety. How bad is 232 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: it right now in Los Angeles County public safety? What's 233 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: happened the last two years plus. I don't think it's 234 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: impacted on most people because they don't follow things closely. Sure, 235 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: you know you have crime that's covered by the media, 236 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: but you know you're inside the DA's office. John tell us, 237 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: you know what we're looking at here after two plus 238 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: years of gascone. Well, if we're looking at a seismic 239 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: shift in safety, let's let's just take shoplisting for example. Okay, 240 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: shoplifting has become de factol legal and most parts of 241 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles County where the DA has jurisdiction, you can 242 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: go to any store and you'll see shoplisting happening openly, 243 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: openly and notoriously. And for most of us now, when 244 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: we go to a store, most of what we want 245 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: to buy we find locks behind cages. You know, you 246 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: almost feel like you're a criminal just walking into these businesses. 247 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: And then my heart goes out to these businesses, especially 248 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: the small ones, because they are already operating at a 249 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: razors n profit margin, and now they're having to invest 250 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: in more security and lock things up, and next thing 251 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're out of business. They go out of business. 252 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: That hurts the neighborhood because people in those neighborhoods they 253 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: don't have a store on every corner, and they don't 254 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: all have cards, but they can drive across town and 255 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: shop somewhere else. These things are all connected. Now that's 256 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: just shoplisting. We talk about the homicides that are up. 257 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: We can talk about the number of juveniles who are 258 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: committing serious crimes and getting no services, no treatment, no programming. 259 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: The border supervisors also have some responsibility in this, because 260 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: they're not providing those services for the courts to send 261 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: young people too. It feels like our politicians are suffocating 262 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: our criminal justice systems, starving it of resources. But this 263 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: plays in the direction that George Gascon wants to take 264 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: things anyway. All right, well, I'm sure we'll talk to 265 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: you many more times over the course of the next 266 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: year and a half. But how can people find out 267 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: more about your campaign? Oh? Yes, please, thank and thank 268 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: you for that. People can visit my website at McKinney 269 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: for LA dot com. That's McKinney for the Number four 270 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: LA dot com And there's a lot of information on 271 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: the website. We just launched it yesterday. I'm very proud 272 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: of it. There's a full bio on me there, and 273 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: I encourage people to go learn more about me and 274 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: hopefully support me. There's also a donate button on that website. 275 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: We know that money is the mother's milk of a campaign, 276 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: and I certainly needed to take on an incumbent like 277 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: George Gascon. So thank you for the opportunity to say that. John. 278 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: I think you're going to be a very strong candidate, 279 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: and you have a platform here anytime you need it. 280 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, guys, good luck, Thank you. Los 281 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: Angeles County Deputy District Attorney John McKinney was our guest, 282 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: and he is, of course running to replace George Gascon 283 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: on the twenty twenty four election, and sounds good to me. Honestly, 284 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how many other people are going to 285 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: jump into this race, but John decided to do it early, 286 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: and I think that's a wise move. More coming up, 287 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: we'll look into the hearings in Washington, DC over the 288 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: origins of COVID nineteen. John and Ken caf I AM 289 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to 290 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: John and Ken on demand from kf I AM six forty. 291 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: Coming up after two o'clock. Well updates you. Apparently Eric 292 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: Garcetti's nomination did clear a Senate panel today. Now, that 293 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: happened before, so it's not really big news. It got 294 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: stalled after that last time he cleared a panel. It's 295 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: happened again. We'll talk about it because there's a few 296 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: other things you need to know coming up in the 297 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: two o'clock hour here on the John and Ken Show. 298 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: Somebody ran into him on an airplane. Yeah, it's a 299 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: funny story. It is very kind of sad, and he 300 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: is a sad person. Now he does look very sad. 301 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: He really looks like you're defeated. Beat now not. He's 302 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: been running the halls of DC again for the past 303 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: several weeks, trying to come up with the votes to 304 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: become the ambassador to India. Well, of all the details 305 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: coming up after the news at two o'clock. Right now, 306 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about how since the Republicans have 307 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: taken over the House of Representatives narrowly, but that means 308 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: they control the agenda, so it's up to them to 309 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: decide basically what the hearings are about. Hearings are often 310 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: just a bunch of gass, but sometimes they're worth listening 311 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: in to see what's going on. And the one we're 312 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: going to talk about right now is investigating the origins 313 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen lab leak or naturally from creature to human. 314 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: Let's bring on Justin Finch, ABC News for KFI on 315 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: what happened with this today? Welcome justin Harry. Well, hey, 316 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: they're good, how are you? Those are the two lines 317 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: of thought here. They're kind of governing the thought process 318 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: behind this hearing, and as was promised today, more hearing 319 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: succumb lab leak versus natural transmission, and so at times, 320 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: of course, no surprise, we did see this conference rather 321 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: hearing take some very political turns, but each time he 322 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: tried to guide themselves back to the issue at hand. 323 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: And so we heard from a few experts today, including 324 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Robert Redfield, the former CDC director. He's someone who raised 325 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: very early on his concerns about the possibility of a 326 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: lab weekly underscores two that both theories shouldn't be explored. 327 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: We heard too from Nicholas Wade, who's a former science 328 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: and health writer for the New York Times, and his 329 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: presence on the panel was met with a lot of 330 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: consternation from Democrats who pointed to a book that he 331 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: wrote some time ago that they said included some very 332 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: racist theories. He was even given time to clear the 333 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: air and get them again back on the agenda. We 334 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: heard too from Paul Alwater. He's a minority witness called 335 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: by Democrats, and he spoke to a point that was 336 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: raised by Raoul Ruiz, who's a member on the panel, 337 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: that was there needs to be some kind of worldwide 338 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: panel that goes into these labs to guarantee there is 339 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: a degree of safety to prevent things like this. You 340 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: kind of contrast that with the WHO and other agents. 341 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: He's have sought access to that lab to learn more 342 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: and they have been shut out. And I guess that's 343 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: one of the bigs of this is to try to 344 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: make sure this doesn't happen again. Whatever the origin of 345 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: the virus are, they need to come up with the 346 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: better means to combat it. That's right. And what's really 347 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of at stake here and both said and unsaid 348 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: here in this hearing and others today, is that China 349 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: has not been very forthcoming with what they know about 350 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: this virus. We are seeing demands grow from not just 351 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: here in the US, but around the world to have 352 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: China say something, give some indication of what they have 353 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: known about the timeline of COVID to again to prevent 354 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: another pandemic like this happening. So you have now the WHO, 355 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: the World Health Organization now asking countries around the world 356 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: to kind of cough up what they have on this too, 357 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: to compare intelligence. We know that in recent weeks between 358 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: the US Department of Energy of the FBI, there has 359 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: been some low confidence consensus around this lab leak theory. 360 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: But the more we get from perhaps now these other 361 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: sources excluding China, we can't begin to build a better 362 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: idea of how this pandemic was able to take hold, 363 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: dud dude. Was there any discussion is doctor Faucci going 364 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: to be a part of this? Uh? Doctor Fauci not 365 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: a part of two day's hearing, but he was given 366 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: the heads up very early on that he would be 367 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: called to appear before these house panels. Well, did they 368 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: lay out any any roadmap on on the gain of 369 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: function research that was going on at Wuhan and the 370 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: funding that came from some American agencies and maybe going 371 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: all the way up to Faucci and the nih UH 372 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: there there was some discussion of that that that game 373 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: of function theory, which essentially talks about ways to manipulate 374 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: a virus with the intention of creating a way to 375 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: treat it, such as a vaccine or what have you. UH, 376 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: that was a theory that was definitely proffered, and it 377 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: was kind of hit back on on both sides the 378 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: argument that there's just not enough known about what was 379 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: going on in that lab to precisely say if that 380 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: was the case with this virus. But that kind of 381 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: research had been conducted in that lab, and there were 382 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: some reported ties that were linked to doctor Anthonyfalgi and 383 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: perhaps his at least knowledge of what was going on 384 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: in that clinic. That came up quite a few times. 385 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: But this is actually, I think probably getting frustrating for 386 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people, because I think most people who 387 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: are not clouded by partisan politics have an understanding of 388 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: what probably went on there. But you're never going to 389 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: get definitive information information because the Chinese are never going 390 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: to talk. That's right, that the cell wall is happening 391 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: in Beijing, where we're not getting much past them on 392 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: what can be gleaned and assess under science. So that 393 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: was one thing that was brought up by Debbie Dingle, 394 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: a House Democrat, and she was saying that in the 395 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: absence of China putting out what they know, various theories 396 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: have been allowed to take root. And those theories are 397 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: not just words. They become action or inaction, they can 398 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: have varied dire consequences based on myth or rumor someone's 399 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: health can be directly impacted, which is why she was 400 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: champoning a nonpartisan charge to get to the bottom of 401 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. Yeah, well, we have different agencies coming up 402 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: with different conclusions. We just heard recently about the Department 403 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: of Energy, and before that the FBI saying it's likely 404 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: coming from a laboratory. Other govern agencies have said no, 405 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: it's probably natural beginnings. But here's my question, justin and well, 406 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: how come there was so much effort that first year 407 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty and into twenty one, and thought 408 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: she was a part of it to just say no way, 409 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: it's a lab leak, don't go down that road. I mean, 410 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: that seems really deceptive. You know, as we look kind 411 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: of backwards at that time and look at what's going 412 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: on now, you kind of wonder how it layered the 413 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: response and the explanation to COVID here in the US wash. 414 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: There are many theories, you know, that are out there obviously, 415 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: but you think about the sort of geopolitical box we 416 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: are now in with China over myriad things from COVID 417 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: to Taiwan, to exports and everything else. You kind of 418 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: wonder if they were trying to the US and the 419 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: West to not uh sort of complicate any already tense relations. 420 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: But when you kind of fast forward to now, you 421 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: see we're here anyway. Yeah, yeah, you know, that's exactly 422 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: how it's going to work, right, eventually, at least what 423 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: maybe the truth comes out. All right, thank you very 424 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: much for joining us today. Justin appreciate Thank you Justin Finch, 425 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: ABC News for KFI covering the hearings, the first public 426 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: hearings in Washington, d C. And Congress over the origins 427 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: of you know what. One of the characters in this 428 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: story William Redfield, who is the head of the CDC 429 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: at the time, and he testified today. He said he 430 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: was an early advocate of the idea that this happened 431 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: as a lab leak, originated as a lab leak, and 432 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: he said he got sidelined by Fauci. Yeah, they all 433 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: got squashed. Fauci didn't want to hear about it. And 434 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: that's what makes me suspicious of Fauci in the same 435 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: way you ought to be suspicious at China. Anybody who 436 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: doesn't want to discuss it. Who punishes people who are 437 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: discussing it, who doesn't want to talk, doesn't want to 438 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: allow investigation, that's a sign of guilt. It's always a 439 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: sign of guilt. All Right, We got more coming up. 440 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken KFIAM six forty. We're live everywhere in the 441 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio accum. You're listening to John and Ken on demand 442 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: from kf I AM sixty. We'll talk about yoga pants 443 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: after two o'clock. They pathetic former mayor still trying to 444 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: be ambassador to India. There is an update there right now. 445 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: We continue in Washington, d c. And this may be 446 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: a little hard to believe. A last week, we played 447 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: the audio of a mother who testified before Congress. She 448 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: was a Michigan mother whose two sons died from fentanyl. 449 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: They thought they were taking some kind of opioid in 450 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: instead they got too much fentanyl. They both died, and 451 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: she was making a plea stopped the fentanyl from coming 452 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: into the United States. Day or two later, Congresswoman from Georgia, 453 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Greene brought this up and said it's a 454 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: Biden's fault, and then Biden kind of chuckled about all 455 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: that it was weird. So today there was an exchange 456 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: between the Fox News reporter Pete Doocey and the White 457 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: House Press Secretary KGP. They call her Koreine Jean Pierre, 458 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: and this is what happened. So cartels kill Americans on 459 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: this side of the border with drugs, and now they're 460 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: killing Americans on the other side of the border with guns. 461 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: Why is President Biden so comfortable with cartel's operating so 462 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: close to the US. Well, let's be very clear. Let 463 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: me take on the part here, because since you brought 464 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: this up, because of the work that this president has done, 465 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: because of what we've done, specifically on fentanyl at the border, 466 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: it's at historic lows, historic levels that we have been 467 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: able to record a number of personnel working to secure 468 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: the border because of what we've been able to do 469 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: seizing that fentanyl, We've done it in a historic way. 470 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: That's because of what this president has done. I just 471 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: talked about twenty three thousand federal agents that have been 472 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: able to be that we've been able to hire and 473 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: put at the border to secure the border. On top 474 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: of that, historic sanctions going after traffickers and other financiers 475 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: are helping disrupt fentanyl supply chains throughout their flow to 476 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: the US, and we're really expanded access to treatments like 477 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: that are saving lives if you think about it, which 478 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: prevent overdoses expanding as our fentanyl test trips. And through 479 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: the removal of the ex waiver, anyone registered to prescribe 480 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: control medications can now prescribe life saving medication to treat addiction. 481 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: And so again, we are seizing fentanyl at record historic 482 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: levels because of because of the of what the President 483 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: has done to secure our border, and we've also coordinated 484 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: made sure that we're coordinated our our relationship with Mexico. 485 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: This lady with such a wire, shut up, shut up, 486 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: stop it. Nobody should have to waste their life listening 487 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: to that prattle. They are seizing more fentyl at the border, 488 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: but this pales in comparison to the amounts coming in 489 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: and getting passed. Right, she goes, it's a historic clows. 490 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: What's a historic lows? Nothing is She just made that up. 491 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: She just lies, and everybody stands there, all stupid White 492 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: House reporters stand there while she just blatantly lies. And 493 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: of course all this is going to be played on 494 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: the news tonight. UH National Review has a story on this, 495 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: says fentanyl abused trafficking overdoses not at historic lows. There's 496 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: a strong case that fentyl overdosers are now the leading 497 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: cause of death for Americans between the ages of eighteen 498 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: and forty five, the leading cause of death a d E. 499 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: A d E. A administrator in the Biden administration, Ann Millgram, 500 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: called fentnel a newer, deeper, more deadly threat than we 501 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: have ever seen. Seventy thousand people plus died from a 502 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: fentonyl overdose in twenty twenty one, up twenty five percent 503 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty, double from twenty nineteen. In fact, fentanyl 504 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: overdose deaths in twenty twenty one were over twenty six 505 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: times higher than ten years before. I'll just look around 506 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: the coverage of what fetnil is doing to people left 507 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: and right. There is no evidence that we're stopping more 508 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: fentnel at the border. Again, I make the point the 509 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: same thing that happens with illegal immigrants, migrants, whatever you 510 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: want to call them. When the numbers go up on 511 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: the seizures and the numbers go up on stop legal 512 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: immigrant at the border, that tells you that probably a 513 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: lot more mated into the country. That's shoosy. The case 514 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: when you have a lot that you're grabbing, it ens 515 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: is a lot more that's made its way through. That's 516 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of how it works. You know. If if the 517 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: overdose deaths are twenty six times higher than a decade before, 518 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: that means we're not at historic lows, or the fected 519 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: no deaths would be the same as ten years ago. 520 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: That's the job of these people, though, is to just 521 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: blow smoke and gas. And this order is stupid. All 522 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: these progressive bootlicking, knob slobbering, tongue bathing reporters. God, they 523 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: are sad and pathetic. We have the worst news media 524 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. In my wife, well, Pete Doucey tries 525 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: harder than anybody to ask more pertinent questions of these spokesholes, 526 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: I know, frustrated, and then she fillibusters for two minutes 527 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: and goes on to somebody else. All right, when we 528 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: come back, Yes, Mayor Yoga Pants, the former disgraced mayor 529 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. Yoga Pants's nomination as once again made 530 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: its way out of a Senate committee. 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