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Speaker 1: Dan and the Dan dan Patrick's Show spend some time
Speaker 1: talking about the NFL Players Association. This contract that is
Speaker 1: going to be sent out to the two thousand or
Speaker 1: so players to vote to electronically to see if they
Speaker 1: ratify this. From what I'm told, this is a four
Speaker 1: gun conclusion that they will ratify this. I don't know
Speaker 1: when the seventeen games happens, probably next year at the earliest,
Speaker 1: and then you're going to have the wild card games
Speaker 1: that'll happen this year. Also spend some time talking about
Speaker 1: Lebron against Zion last night. A lot of fun it was.
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Speaker 1: radio and TV partners. Will head out to the NFL
Speaker 1: combine the NFL Network analyst Daniel jerr Mile one of
Speaker 1: our favorites. We'll talk about how tough it is to
Speaker 1: find a wide receiver because the way the two different,
Speaker 1: they seem like two different sports even though they're the same.
Speaker 1: College football in pro football, scouts are having a real
Speaker 1: hard time figuring out how good a wide receiver is
Speaker 1: because you never see a receiver in college get press
Speaker 1: coverage in the NFL, you do have that, and a
Speaker 1: lot of times you just go to a spot in
Speaker 1: your wide opening college and trying to find that. And
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah said, there's a ton of great wide receivers
Speaker 1: in this draft, but how do you differentiate between who's
Speaker 1: going to be great in the pros as opposed to
Speaker 1: who was great in college football? And also we'll talk
Speaker 1: about some of the rumors that come up NFL combine.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow met with the media to a tongue Vloa
Speaker 1: met with the media. There's talk about Cam Newton. Is
Speaker 1: he going to be there? I don't think he'll be
Speaker 1: there with Carolina. It really depends on what the approach
Speaker 1: is for Carolina. If that owner views this as a
Speaker 1: rebuild season, then I think Cam Newton will be playing
Speaker 1: for somebody else. But they did give him a sort
Speaker 1: of vote of confidence yesterday. But I think if I'm rebuilding,
Speaker 1: I don't want a rebuilding quarterback as well rehabbing quarterback.
Speaker 1: And you've moved on, Keickley retired, Greg Olsen moved on,
Speaker 1: and now it's kind of Christian McCaffrey in a cast
Speaker 1: of wait a minute, who are you guys, I would
Speaker 1: be surprised if Cam Newton is their starting quarterback. No
Speaker 1: word on Tom Brady. I think that this is in
Speaker 1: house with talks with the Patriots, and then they're going
Speaker 1: to find out if Tom is indeed headed to free agency.
Speaker 1: No word on Dak Prescott. And I did float this,
Speaker 1: and once again I have no insight information. I just
Speaker 1: brought this up with a scout yesterday. I said, if
Speaker 1: you said to Jerry Jones, Jerry, the Dolphins will give
Speaker 1: you two first round picks and maybe something else for
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, would you do that if you knew you
Speaker 1: could get Tuah, if you could get Tuah a number
Speaker 1: one and say a second or third round pick, would
Speaker 1: you do that? And I said that to the scout
Speaker 1: and the scout said, yes, knowing Jerry, now he's got Tuah,
Speaker 1: who he might view as being better than Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: He's going to be cheaper than Dak Prescott. And now
Speaker 1: you have that four year window where you can keep
Speaker 1: all these players there and win a championship and you're
Speaker 1: not spending thirty five to thirty eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: So that's I just threw that out there. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody understands I have no inside information.
Speaker 1: I just wondered about this, so I threw that out there.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, he tried to end the storyline about him
Speaker 1: not wanting to play for the Bengals yesterday at the
Speaker 1: combine and he says, I'm not going to not play.
Speaker 1: And I think when people saw that, they went, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to It's a double nig I'm not going
Speaker 1: to not play. Wait does he so? Does that mean
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play for the Bengals. Of course.
Speaker 1: Joe was saying that, you know, we've made too much
Speaker 1: out of this, which I've been accused of that he
Speaker 1: claimed the media was the one creating the narrative. I
Speaker 1: understand what he's saying. We do run with something sometimes
Speaker 1: we want something to happen because it's a great story.
Speaker 1: But Joe's vagueness is making this still breathing. I mean,
Speaker 1: it might be hooked up to a breathing tube, but
Speaker 1: it's still breathing. He's basically saying they'll go there if
Speaker 1: he has to, which imply Cincinnati is far from his
Speaker 1: first choice. I mean that's the feeling that I get. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm a ballplayer. I'm gonna go wherever I'm picked, and
Speaker 1: I know we're putting a lot on him. I did
Speaker 1: like him when I met him. I found him refreshingly
Speaker 1: honest about things, and you know, when you ask a question,
Speaker 1: he gave you an answer. But we're going to pick
Speaker 1: apart everything he's saying now. I expect him to go
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati as a Cincinnati native. I hope he does
Speaker 1: go there. I hope he does breathe some new life
Speaker 1: into that organization. There is no way that Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: and his camp can go. I want to go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: And by the way, can we stop saying hometown team.
Speaker 1: That's not his hometown team. He's not from Cincinnati. Ohio
Speaker 1: is a little bit bigger. He grew up in Athens, Ohio,
Speaker 1: Ohio University, not Cincinnati. And I'm going to guess he
Speaker 1: wasn't a Bengal fan growing up. May not have been
Speaker 1: a Browns fan either. He was born in Iowa. And
Speaker 1: he's a good fit for a team that's rebuilding. But
Speaker 1: you know, here's the situation that happens with these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You get into a situation where I got drafted a
Speaker 1: little bit later than I should have. But I get
Speaker 1: to a better team with a better coach and more stability,
Speaker 1: or I'm beautist the savior and I go to a
Speaker 1: team that's not very good, a team that has organizational issues.
Speaker 1: They've been known as cheap. Their facilities are not up
Speaker 1: to par with other ones, certainly their practice facility. I
Speaker 1: don't want him to get into a situation where you
Speaker 1: may have another head coach in year two and then
Speaker 1: you may have another offensive coordinator. If you're looking at success,
Speaker 1: you have to have sustainability, and that would be my
Speaker 1: biggest concern with Joe Burrow. Now are they do they
Speaker 1: have the right people in place? I do, I don't
Speaker 1: know that, and I don't think anybody can say that.
Speaker 1: But if he goes there. Now he's asked to do
Speaker 1: things at LSU, he had a lot of talent, so
Speaker 1: that helps. He's going to go to Cincinnati, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. And I know people say, well,
Speaker 1: he's got an elite running back in Joe Mixon. No,
Speaker 1: he's not an elite running back. Jill Burrows not there
Speaker 1: to hand off, Like, hey, he got an elite running
Speaker 1: back for you to hand off too. I got anybody
Speaker 1: to block or throw too. That would be my first
Speaker 1: question here, Hey who am I throwing too? But Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: by all accounts, it felt like, hey, don't ask this
Speaker 1: question anymore, he kept it, I think strategically vague. I
Speaker 1: also heard from a source yesterday because I'm saying, what's
Speaker 1: kind of the scuttle butt going on at the combine
Speaker 1: because I never believe in the headlines, I never believe
Speaker 1: in what I'm reading because nobody is going to be honest.
Speaker 1: But you get people who don't have an agenda. And
Speaker 1: my source said, Hey, somebody go to fall in love
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, And I go, well, what do you
Speaker 1: mean go It happens every year. Look at Truebisky, look
Speaker 1: at Daniel Jones. Somebody out of nowhere goes I love
Speaker 1: that guy. Carson Wentz, Eagels fell in love with him,
Speaker 1: Jared goff Rams fell in love with him. Somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: fall in love with Justin Herbert. From what I'm told now,
Speaker 1: that means the Lions and the Giants are going to
Speaker 1: be players here if they play it correctly. That somebody's
Speaker 1: going up to three. Now. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: say to the Redskins. We want to go up to
Speaker 1: two if you can somehow, you know, make sure that
Speaker 1: they get Chase Young, But that's gonna be difficult to
Speaker 1: do because if you go up there, they want to
Speaker 1: make sure they get Chase Young, and I certainly understand that.
Speaker 1: But the Lions at three and the Giants at four
Speaker 1: open for business, and they should be, because if I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Miami, and if I am Miami, I'm going
Speaker 1: can we get who we want here? And that is
Speaker 1: twa If that's who they want, I don't think they're
Speaker 1: getting him at five because he's going to be medically cleared.
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean if there was an SEC title game,
Speaker 1: you know, in two weeks he could play. He's just
Speaker 1: medically cleared to be able to start working out. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have his pro day in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna go throw sixty to eighty passes and
Speaker 1: that's it. But I think somebody's going up and going
Speaker 1: up to three to get Justin Herbert or two. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to go up that high to
Speaker 1: get it, which will be really interesting. Yeampoint your Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders have the twelfth pick in the nineteenth pick.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of teams with double picks in
Speaker 1: the first round and moving a space. They have to
Speaker 1: pay Derek car eventually, some more stick to that. I
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Mayon at the GM. You know, the
Speaker 1: vote of confidence last year with Derek Carr a lot
Speaker 1: stronger than the vote of confidence this year. I've said
Speaker 1: all along, haven't wavered on. I think the Raiders have
Speaker 1: a new quarterback when they get to Las Vegas if
Speaker 1: they can, they want Tom Brady. If you don't get
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, do you go with Derek Carr for one
Speaker 1: more year in Las Vegas? And that might be the case. Also,
Speaker 1: are the Dolphins making the right choice if they do
Speaker 1: take a quarterback, because now I think if you if
Speaker 1: you look at this team, the way they played at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, including that win in New England,
Speaker 1: and Brian flores Is got something going on here with
Speaker 1: this team. They got rid of their marquis players. But
Speaker 1: you know Tunsil and Fitzpatrick. Now what do you have here?
Speaker 1: And if I get that rookie, you know, you know
Speaker 1: contract there Now I can be old something and maybe
Speaker 1: by year three, maybe year four, you're the best team
Speaker 1: in the division, maybe, but when do you go in
Speaker 1: on that quarterback that would that's the question for that
Speaker 1: team because once you Ryan Fitzpatrick can play for the
Speaker 1: next five years and he'll be Ryan Fitzpatrick spectacular and
Speaker 1: then he'll be scary bad. But if you're gonna go,
Speaker 1: you still have Josh Rosen there as well. But if
Speaker 1: you're the Dolphins and you want to and you can't
Speaker 1: pass up on Tah and there are scouts. There are
Speaker 1: two scouts that said to me, look, we like Tah,
Speaker 1: We like twoa more for the pro game than we
Speaker 1: do Joe Burrow. And I went, what did Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: What do you have to They said, he was sort
Speaker 1: of average his junior year and he was spectacular senior year.
Speaker 1: We can't throw out what he did the previous year.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, wait, don't you think Lsu opened
Speaker 1: up the offense and basically coach trusted him? And they said, yes,
Speaker 1: but you can't throw out that sample size. He said,
Speaker 1: look at Tuah. Was Tuah ever bad? Was he ever average?
Speaker 1: Two has been great? He just has had injuries and
Speaker 1: that's the reason why they think that he won't go
Speaker 1: number one. But there's at least two scouts who were like, yes,
Speaker 1: if ta, if he would did not get injured, did
Speaker 1: not have to suffer this injury. They think there'd be
Speaker 1: a real debate about who would be the number one quarterback.
Speaker 1: But somebody is going to fall in love with Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert Garanteed poll question mclove and what he happ So
Speaker 1: we put up for hour one do you think Steph
Speaker 1: Curry should play? Yeah? Sixty said no, Well you got
Speaker 1: a tank. No one's buying your wheat draft. But held,
Speaker 1: but he should play, like I wish he didn't have to,
Speaker 1: but for the franchise he's in for himself, like he
Speaker 1: didn't want to sit there and go to games anymore
Speaker 1: and just sit there and you know, do you know
Speaker 1: golf appause he's getting paid. You moved into a new building.
Speaker 1: Let him go out there and play for two months here.
Speaker 1: You know now that you say, the difference between one,
Speaker 1: two and three doesn't seem big in this draft. And
Speaker 1: there's no by the way, the Warriors, there's no way
Speaker 1: they're taking seven foot, said Wiseman. Can't possibly be in
Speaker 1: play for them. Maybe maybe you make up making you trade.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We got a long way away before
Speaker 1: the NBA Draft. But yeah, Steph wants to play. Let
Speaker 1: him play. Will that be a thing to watch even
Speaker 1: though they're sort of not Yes, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't compare to what I'm watching Golden State. Now, let's
Speaker 1: have good players. You're gonna stop watching. I love Eric
Speaker 1: Pascal out of Villanova, by the way, but yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: like to see stick. If for no other reason, then
Speaker 1: for me, I'd love for Steph Curry to come back
Speaker 1: and play. So when I when I go through and
Speaker 1: like Golden State is on all these marquee games like
Speaker 1: and coming up, it'll be the Lakers and Warriors without
Speaker 1: all their stars. That's next on ESP Does the Hawks
Speaker 1: feel way better than their record? They're the second worst team,
Speaker 1: but I feel like they're on all the time. It's
Speaker 1: such a positive it's such a positive storyline for a
Speaker 1: bad team. They're entertaining. They with Trey Young, you're always entertaining. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean I watched them, but then I'm I have
Speaker 1: a sad life. I end up watching these things. Nick
Speaker 1: and Arizona joins us, Hi, Nick, what's on your mind today? H?
Speaker 1: Nick is gone? H do you h oh? I got this, um,
Speaker 1: we gotta get my call screen. It's disconnected here. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, so if we can get our best
Speaker 1: people on the disconnected call screen, maybe Mario can help
Speaker 1: me with that. Yes you fo, Mario. I do have
Speaker 1: a couple of Meat Friday songs as well. It's fun.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can. We'd like to see.
Speaker 1: Let me drop one, then we'll start our meat Madness
Speaker 1: that'll be coming up during March Madness, of course. Let
Speaker 1: me see. How about Madden Oklahoma with a Meat Friday song?
Speaker 1: Who's feeling men? Oh? Yeah? That room? Who that you want?
Speaker 1: He probably inside honesty, big things, great, it's time to wait.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's mattin Oklahoma. And it feels like
Speaker 1: he's playing some instruments there. Extra credit for that. He's
Speaker 1: slapping the base uh posh in Tennessee joints us I
Speaker 1: got a way none day. Y'all need to say me
Speaker 1: Fry me fry a brass Ridsen steakes. We leave that
Speaker 1: sand based off the face, me friding when I gets
Speaker 1: sun that Christy smoking up and that's your Ega place
Speaker 1: Me riding me riding, good time, sing a long time
Speaker 1: Listening by eleven one damn, you don't want to eat
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Speaker 1: Tash in Tennessee with Toto, Rosanna, well Rosanna? And is
Speaker 1: that Rosanna Arquette right that she had? Didn't Rosanna have? Uh?
Speaker 1: She also had in your Eyes? Really? I think I
Speaker 1: think that song is written about her, Peter Gabriel, the light,
Speaker 1: the heat your eyes. I am complete. I may have
Speaker 1: just made that up. I can't tell us how it
Speaker 1: was written about your eyes. I remember that one night
Speaker 1: lay at. I don't think it was now it we looked.
Speaker 1: We talked about about a year ago. Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: not an affair or some kind of relationship with her
Speaker 1: using anyone. Yeah, a long time ago, thank you, statute
Speaker 1: of limitations. He talked about it. Okay, So Rosanna our
Speaker 1: cat had two songs written about her really? Yeah, Toto
Speaker 1: and then uh and then that one that scheme with
Speaker 1: John Cuzak when he's holding up the the beat buch
Speaker 1: or whatever it is there he's got his his tresh coat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great. All right, let me do one more and
Speaker 1: then we'll take a break. How about Mike and Hawaii
Speaker 1: with a trigger meat Friday. So it's a little bit yummy,
Speaker 1: the sausage on top, the steak and the brisket and
Speaker 1: a thick cut park chop. I wish I had money,
Speaker 1: what would I do? I'd buy a new trager for
Speaker 1: great barbecue. And you can tell everybody suck it back
Speaker 1: a roll. It's time for me Friday on the Dad
Speaker 1: Patrick Show. Hope you don't bake, Hope you don't broil.
Speaker 1: Frying chess makes meel how wonderful me is when it's
Speaker 1: on the grill? All right, Mike, and Hawaii's beautiful when
Speaker 1: you start out with yummy. I mean, it's just like
Speaker 1: I laugh every time I hear the first line of
Speaker 1: every one of these songs. It's a little bit yummy.
Speaker 1: It's hell inside. Yes, probably got see it on Elton John.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was playing the piano there? It
Speaker 1: sounded like he was. He could have been, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: could have been. I just love that there's some moment
Speaker 1: that that dude was like driving in the car or
Speaker 1: something and that song came on and he's started saying,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, it's a little bit yummy. This is
Speaker 1: a meat Friday song. That's what fascinates me when somebody goes,
Speaker 1: that's the song I'm gonna use for a meat Friday song.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. I got
Speaker 1: some people and want to talk about Joe Burrow. Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah will join us from the NFL combine. What do
Speaker 1: you think of what I've been saying about Tua, Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert and Joe Burrow. We'll get those answers coming up
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Speaker 1: Junior the third weighing in on the collective bargaining agreement,
Speaker 1: the NBA and Major League Baseball are doing it right.
Speaker 1: Players come first. All NFL players deserve the same. We
Speaker 1: capital letters should not rush the next ten years for
Speaker 1: today's satisfaction. I vote no. I've been saying this, man,
Speaker 1: it's fallen upon deaf ears. Why are you signing up
Speaker 1: for ten years? That helps the NFL their TV partners.
Speaker 1: But if I'm a player, and you know what, the
Speaker 1: percentage doesn't go up, the pie itself gets bigger. Why
Speaker 1: does it stop it? Why is it captain forty eight percent?
Speaker 1: The players used to have fifty percent and then it
Speaker 1: went down. Yeah, McLevin, I'm not sure. Chef there tweeted
Speaker 1: today that that's still the highest of the four leagues wise,
Speaker 1: which I don't I don't understand by the way, and
Speaker 1: I'm not clearly the fifty percent the owners get. Does
Speaker 1: that that thank for running operations? Right? Like? They don't
Speaker 1: just pocket that fifty percent? Dude, that I don't know
Speaker 1: the breakdown of. I don't think they've ever let anybody
Speaker 1: see their books. But Stepter who who knows where his motivated?
Speaker 1: But saying forty eight per five is still better than MLB, NHL,
Speaker 1: and they probably that. I thought there's so many guys
Speaker 1: on a roster where those others years have such smaller roster.
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Speaker 1: Robin Dayton joins us on the program. Hey, Rob, what
Speaker 1: do you have for me today? Hey damn, Hey guys,
Speaker 1: five man. I'm a big fan of you guys, always
Speaker 1: have been. If I got some answers for some of
Speaker 1: your questions, there's plenty of talent Cincinnati offensive weapons for him.
Speaker 1: Just two years ago, Joe Mixon let THEFC and rushing
Speaker 1: this past season he only finished with eleven hundred plus yards,
Speaker 1: but he only had three hundred and fifty three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty yards in the first eight games, and then
Speaker 1: he turned it on. You know, you got Tyler Void,
Speaker 1: one of the best number two wide receivers in football.
Speaker 1: I know John Ross has been kind of back and
Speaker 1: forth and had a lot of jobs, but he has potential.
Speaker 1: You know they want aj Greenback. I mean, that's some
Speaker 1: pretty good weapons for Joe Burrow. And as far as
Speaker 1: they're being cheap, what Carson Palmer said, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys remember, but in two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: he signed like a ninety seven million dollar contract, meeting
Speaker 1: top three paid quarterback in the league. Well, no, he
Speaker 1: got paid, but Rob, there had to be something there
Speaker 1: where he said, I'd rather not play than play for Cincinnati. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess right. I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't even finish his contract after he made all
Speaker 1: that money. I was kind of disappointed. And because I
Speaker 1: was a huge fan of him and he signed a
Speaker 1: contract and you did that kind of money, he should
Speaker 1: have stuck the contract. Album. Yeah, because he had plenty
Speaker 1: of weapons. He had Bushman Zada Chad. They even brought
Speaker 1: him TiO for him to make him happy. And yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't like, you know, you don't have a
Speaker 1: tight end. You're not sure about aj Green And if
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is an elite running back, then I apologize.
Speaker 1: But it feels like if you don't get you know,
Speaker 1: a thousand years, every running back, every every starting running
Speaker 1: back should get a thousand yards. I give you think
Speaker 1: about what are you averaging fifty yards a game? You know,
Speaker 1: so one, But I just don't know if they have
Speaker 1: weapons there in Cincinnati where you go, Boy, that's a
Speaker 1: great offense to walk into. Yeah, my club, I mean
Speaker 1: Edie Mixon was so bad at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: My guy Eddie down lived in second and eleven, third eleven.
Speaker 1: He was at like averaging two yards of carriage a
Speaker 1: week nine. Let me bring in Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst,
Speaker 1: and he joins it us from the Combine, the NFL
Speaker 1: Network's coverage live coverage. So the Combine starts Thursday at
Speaker 1: four Eastern with quarterbacks, wide receivers and tight ends. Daniel,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Let me start with that, this
Speaker 1: whole Joe Burrows situation. What is the buzz at the
Speaker 1: combine about what they think the Bengals are going to do?
Speaker 1: And is there an endgame for Joe Burrow. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of chatter Dan about you know,
Speaker 1: does he try and force his way out of there?
Speaker 1: And um, you know, I thought there's two ways you
Speaker 1: can do that if you chose to do it, and
Speaker 1: one of which would never work with Mike Brown of
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and that's to go John always scorched Earth,
Speaker 1: go public, um, you know, and really a kind of
Speaker 1: embarrassed the team that would that just wouldn't work, the
Speaker 1: Bengals would take him and uh and not said that
Speaker 1: type of a precedent. But the other way to do
Speaker 1: it is kind of the elive way, which is a
Speaker 1: little more back channeled. Um. So I think if that,
Speaker 1: if that was going on, I don't know that we
Speaker 1: would even know about it. So, um, you know, I
Speaker 1: still think when it's all said and done, he's going
Speaker 1: to get picked by the Bengals. He's going to show
Speaker 1: up and play for the Bengals. Um. But if that
Speaker 1: was going on behind the scenes, I wouldn't be totally shocked.
Speaker 1: I think he's keeping it, you know, maybe strategically vague
Speaker 1: on purpose. Yeah, what do you think? Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just think again, if you come out and go
Speaker 1: scorched Earth right now, um, it's not going to end
Speaker 1: well for you. So you know, I think you try
Speaker 1: and gather as much information as you can and I've
Speaker 1: you know, I thought it'll be in to see what
Speaker 1: the Bengals doing free agency. You know, if you want
Speaker 1: to show that you're committed and you really do want
Speaker 1: to win a championship, do something out of your character
Speaker 1: and go out there and be a little bit more
Speaker 1: aggressive in free agency. Something that they just never have
Speaker 1: really done. I had a source tell me this yesterday
Speaker 1: a couple of things we talked about Tah, and I said,
Speaker 1: if Tua didn't have this hip injury. Now granted he
Speaker 1: does have this, but if he didn't, would there be
Speaker 1: serious debate about who should be the number one quarterback? Taken?
Speaker 1: For me, I think you'll get some different answers. For me,
Speaker 1: there is, and I would take if Ta was totally healthy,
Speaker 1: I would still take Joe Burrow. Okay, So that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: I know there's there's people on both sides of that argument.
Speaker 1: I really like Tah, But to me, when you have
Speaker 1: two players that played for, you know, on incredibly talented teams,
Speaker 1: there's so much of the production you have to kind
Speaker 1: of set aside dan and you have to dig in,
Speaker 1: and to me, you've got to study the quality opponents
Speaker 1: they played against, and then you've got to really study
Speaker 1: the pressure snaps that they played because there aren't a
Speaker 1: lot of them. I think with with Burrow this past year,
Speaker 1: he had maybe one hundred and eighty of them. I
Speaker 1: think Tua had maybe sixty eight or right around seventy
Speaker 1: snaps where he was under pressure. And when you study
Speaker 1: the better opponents, and when you study them when they're
Speaker 1: under pressure, it's a decided edge for Joe Burrow and
Speaker 1: the way they performed, and that's to me is why
Speaker 1: I ended up with Burrow Overtua. I also had a
Speaker 1: source tell me that somebody's gonna fall in love with
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Somebody's gonna go up. And it feels like
Speaker 1: we're surprised every year with Mitchell Trubiski or Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert might be that quarterback. Your thoughts, I think,
Speaker 1: I think you'll get a veried opinion on that one.
Speaker 1: I actually actually think Jordan Love has more upside than Herbert.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think Herbert in terms of somebody
Speaker 1: that can get on the field right now, he's incredibly intelligent,
Speaker 1: He's played a ton of football. He's I think he's
Speaker 1: going to be kind of at his ceiling pretty early on,
Speaker 1: and he's a great athlete. But Herbert's not really a
Speaker 1: playmaker and off scheduled playmaker. He's going to execute as
Speaker 1: a designed in the playsheet, whereas Jordan Love has a
Speaker 1: little bit more moxy, a little more playmaking ability, and
Speaker 1: a little more upside. But he's just he's not ready
Speaker 1: to play right now. But I think Dan, when you
Speaker 1: look at kind of the five, six, and seven, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see at least two quarterbacks go
Speaker 1: in that range. You're gonna have Cincinnati take one, then
Speaker 1: you're gonna see two more, I believe go in that range.
Speaker 1: I think Herbert would probably be the favorite behind Twa
Speaker 1: to be that third quarterback. But I think it's very
Speaker 1: real possibility we have three go in the top six picks,
Speaker 1: and then another one with Jordan Love. Once you get
Speaker 1: down to you know, Raiders, Colts, Tampa, I think you
Speaker 1: could see him go in that range. Also, we make
Speaker 1: a big deal about quarterbacks hands, why don't we make
Speaker 1: a big deal about wide receivers hands. It's you know,
Speaker 1: I looked it up, and I every year before the
Speaker 1: combine and we'll talk about it on the era as
Speaker 1: these workouts are going on. But I like to, you know,
Speaker 1: look up how the top players in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: don't care you know, what everybody in the combine did
Speaker 1: or what even NFL starters did, But like receivers, I'll
Speaker 1: take the top ten in terms of receptions and yards,
Speaker 1: and then I'll look up all their combined numbers and
Speaker 1: see what you'll learn. The fascinating thing, Dan is the
Speaker 1: average forty time for the top ten receivers in those
Speaker 1: statistical categories, it's four, five, five. So if not the four,
Speaker 1: it's the four or five. You know what a bunch
Speaker 1: of them have is stink a huge hands. So it
Speaker 1: does there is something there in terms of the hand
Speaker 1: size those wide receivers. Yeah, I don't know why that.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to hold a football, it's another thing
Speaker 1: to catch the football when it's thrown to you. That
Speaker 1: always amazed me. But I saw where Mike Mayock was
Speaker 1: talking about how it's really tough to try to figure
Speaker 1: out how that wide receiver who's successful in college is
Speaker 1: going to be successful in the pros because it's a
Speaker 1: completely different game that's played. There's no press coverage. You'd
Speaker 1: go to a spot you're usually wide open there. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much you're reading a defense there, but
Speaker 1: are you? I know you say this is one of
Speaker 1: the great wide receiving drafts in recent memory, But how
Speaker 1: do you know who's going to make that transition? Well,
Speaker 1: I think first of all, that's been a challenge evaluating
Speaker 1: you know, receivers making that leap for decades, you know,
Speaker 1: because you're going to see so much more press coverage.
Speaker 1: But I think as you you know, the more you
Speaker 1: do it, you look at it and say, Okay, even
Speaker 1: though he's not seeing press coverage, I can tell by
Speaker 1: his foot quickness off the line, I can tell by
Speaker 1: his strength. You've got to beat press coverage with your
Speaker 1: feet of your hands, Dan, So you've got to either
Speaker 1: have that foot quickness to escape, or you've got to
Speaker 1: have the strength upper body wise to power through and
Speaker 1: get off press. So you kind of have to look
Speaker 1: at those things and project what these guys are going
Speaker 1: to be able to do. The good news is, while
Speaker 1: maybe you don't see as much press coverage in some
Speaker 1: of these college games, these kids have played so much
Speaker 1: seven on seven and have run so many routes that
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more route polished to these
Speaker 1: guys than we've seen. I think it gets better and
Speaker 1: better every year, and that's why you're starting to see,
Speaker 1: you know, some of these guys have more of an impact.
Speaker 1: And you saw it last year with especially the old
Speaker 1: mess kids, with with AJ Brown, a, DK Metcalf and
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. All those guys stepping on the field and
Speaker 1: playing pretty well. Obviously, Samuel will be a poster child
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts facing the questions about being a quarterback or not.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on Jalen Hurts playing that position.
Speaker 1: I was encouraged by the fact that I found out
Speaker 1: today when they have the meeting and you can request
Speaker 1: for players to play other positions, that none of the
Speaker 1: thirty two teams request that Jalen Hurts to play another position,
Speaker 1: which speaks well to the intelligence of the NFL that
Speaker 1: they're not asking this kuy to play another position. He's
Speaker 1: a quarterback. It's what he is. There's been some comparisons
Speaker 1: to Dak Prescott, and I think there's something to that
Speaker 1: in terms of just the strength, the ability to extend plays.
Speaker 1: I think Dak through with more anticipation and a little
Speaker 1: more accurate. But this makes plays man, and to me,
Speaker 1: I think when you get in the second round, not
Speaker 1: every team's going to have him there, but some team
Speaker 1: I think is going to fall in love with him
Speaker 1: and say we can kind of build our offense around
Speaker 1: somebody like this. Talking to Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analysts,
Speaker 1: they got the combined Thursday at four eastern with the
Speaker 1: quarter acts, wide receivers and the tight end. When TWA
Speaker 1: gets examined, is it just one doctor who's examining him
Speaker 1: and then you get the teams to get the information
Speaker 1: from that examination or is he going to every team?
Speaker 1: I think all those teams get in there together, so
Speaker 1: you'll see. I think I was talking to Steve Wish,
Speaker 1: who's who's spent some time around two in his camp,
Speaker 1: and I think he said it was ten hours of
Speaker 1: medical stuff yesterday. So it's it is a long, long process,
Speaker 1: you know, with all those teams, doctors getting a chance
Speaker 1: to look at you and poke and project. Have to
Speaker 1: be careful obviously with that with that injury specifically, but
Speaker 1: you know, the films I believe get those same films
Speaker 1: obviously get sent out to all the teams, But in
Speaker 1: terms of the physical examination, each of the teams have
Speaker 1: an opportunity there. Highest graded quarterback you've ever been around
Speaker 1: since you've been doing this, Andrew Lucky. Andrew Luck is
Speaker 1: still the highest graded quarterback that I've done. So who
Speaker 1: might surprise me that you had a high grade four? Well,
Speaker 1: I've made it note at the time I was a
Speaker 1: big Sam Darnold fan. So I had been great on
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. You still I've got Yeah, I'm still hopeful there.
Speaker 1: He's still young. Um. I think he's got all the
Speaker 1: tools stand AND's got all the ability. They've got to
Speaker 1: give him some help, um and he needs to not
Speaker 1: getting monol. That would also be helpful. Um. So to
Speaker 1: get him with that Daniel that was that was in
Speaker 1: his draft profile, susceptible to Mono. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you didn't see that or the Jets didn't. I try
Speaker 1: to do as much background as I can, and I
Speaker 1: missed that one. But Sam Darnold. To me, if I'm
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows Camp and I look at Sam Darnold, where
Speaker 1: I'm not with a good organization, no stability there and
Speaker 1: what kind of weapons do I have? Like, that's where
Speaker 1: you get into bad habits. If you said that Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold was going to be playing for the Texans or
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, we would look at Sam Darnold differently. That's
Speaker 1: why we're not quite sure at how good he is,
Speaker 1: because it feels like the whole team and the organis aan.
Speaker 1: You're not how not sure how good they are? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm you know I'm I'm hopeful with the Jets,
Speaker 1: I work with Joe Douglas and he's just gotten there.
Speaker 1: He hasn't had a chance to go through a draft
Speaker 1: yet with them, So I'm hopeful that he's going to
Speaker 1: get a chance to build up around him and give
Speaker 1: him a fighting chance because it just hasn't been fair.
Speaker 1: Like I look, I'm watching the super Bowl then, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching Garoppolo and make some plays, and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here going, is there anything Jimmy Garoppolo does that Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold couldn't do if he had Kyle Shanahan and that
Speaker 1: and that system in place, Like a lot of the
Speaker 1: success for these guys in that position early on is
Speaker 1: dependent on where they land and what they have around him. Well,
Speaker 1: imagine Joe Burrow with San Francisco. Oh gosh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he's got Joe Burrow. Everybody talked about quarterbacks wanting
Speaker 1: to have a you know, kind of their super human trait,
Speaker 1: and with Joe Burrow, it not arm strength. With his
Speaker 1: superhuman strength is his vision, Like his field vision is
Speaker 1: as good as I've seen from from any quarterback I've
Speaker 1: ever done. Like his his ability to see things to
Speaker 1: work through progression and get the ball out of his
Speaker 1: hand is as good as I've ever seen. And with
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's brain matched with this kid's knowledge to be
Speaker 1: able to dissect the defense, I'd be scary if I
Speaker 1: had Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield in this Here's draft. What
Speaker 1: would be the draft order? I would say it's a
Speaker 1: great question. Kyler Murray is so unique. I would say
Speaker 1: probably Kyler Murray Joe Burrow than Baker would be my guest.
Speaker 1: But I would say there's more of a discussion between
Speaker 1: the first two. I would say Baker would be third
Speaker 1: no matter what. But there would be some some teams
Speaker 1: with certain offenses that would favor Burrow. Others would be
Speaker 1: more intrigue, intrigued by what you can get with Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Are you in the bench press area at the combine?
Speaker 1: I am, Fortunately there's a there's nobody on the bench
Speaker 1: press at this point in time. But what could you
Speaker 1: throw up if I said, whyn't to get in there
Speaker 1: and let me hear? I buckle? I buckle? I did?
Speaker 1: I did? I did thirteen senior year? Uh going to
Speaker 1: an appleast and stay its thirteen reps and then I
Speaker 1: can honestly tell you, Dan, that was in the year
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, and I have not gotten under a
Speaker 1: bench press since nineteen ninety nine. I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: dumbbell guy. But that was when you were on HTAH
Speaker 1: and that helped you with the two twenty five, right,
Speaker 1: I shall well, you know, no comment. But the thing
Speaker 1: about the bench press, when it gets quiet in here,
Speaker 1: you hope that they're cheering, because Dan, you hear some
Speaker 1: you'll you'll hear some things when that when they're trying
Speaker 1: to squeeze out that last rep. Oh, it's not always pretty.
Speaker 1: Gasterers play exactly exactly. M Hey have fun out there,
Speaker 1: and uh, good luck. We'll be counting on you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Dan, it should be fun. That's Daniel Jeremiah,
Speaker 1: NFL Network Analyst four Eastern on Thursday. Quarterbacks, mind, receivers
Speaker 1: and tight ends. We get all excited underwear Olympics. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Look how pass he's running. Look at the
Speaker 1: cone drew. None of that matters to me. I want
Speaker 1: to know how quick you are. I would take quickness
Speaker 1: over speed at any of these positions. I want to
Speaker 1: know how quick you are because it feels like Everything
Speaker 1: is just predicated on that snap count. So quick getting
Speaker 1: the ball out? How quick are you? How quick can
Speaker 1: I get to my route? How quick do I throw it?
Speaker 1: How quick can I try to defend somebody? If I'm aligneman?
Speaker 1: How quick am I going to be to take that
Speaker 1: step back? If I'm an edge rusher? How quick? I
Speaker 1: don't need speed, I need quickness. There, take a break,
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Speaker 1: Duke last night in double overtime, Duke had a ninety
Speaker 1: eight point four percent win probability with one fifteen left
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Speaker 1: nine and lost that game one thirteen to one oh one.
Speaker 1: Once again, I don't know who's good. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody's great. Baylor might be good, Kansas is good, but
Speaker 1: I don't know these other teams that San Diego State
Speaker 1: is great, good, Dayton. I mean, there's quite a few
Speaker 1: teams that you just go, I have no clue when
Speaker 1: it comes to filling out my brackets. You might go,
Speaker 1: I have no idea, no idea. And it feels like
Speaker 1: every year we say the same thing, Man, it's going
Speaker 1: to be crazy that first week March madness. Every year
Speaker 1: we say that it is crazy the first week, maybe
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, and then after that it kind
Speaker 1: of gets back to one surprise in the final four,
Speaker 1: and then you'll get probably three teams where you know
Speaker 1: who the coach is and that's about it. I'm watching
Speaker 1: Louisville the other night and I'm going, are they any good?
Speaker 1: And then you know, Florida State rops them up, and
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to watch as much as i can,
Speaker 1: but it feels like the more I watch, the less
Speaker 1: I know. When it comes to college basketball, update the
Speaker 1: poll results Sarah mclov should Steph Curry play? Sixty four
Speaker 1: percent say no, Yeah, I hope he plays. There is
Speaker 1: an outbreak of the coronavirus in northern Italy. So you
Speaker 1: have some soccer matches, including Juventus against inter Milan. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna play these games behind closed doors
Speaker 1: this weekend, so I'm guessing no fans are going to
Speaker 1: be allowed to go to this soccer match. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk to Mike Tarico in about a half hour
Speaker 1: from now. He's hosting the Olympics. They from what I'm
Speaker 1: being told, there is sort of a drop dead date
Speaker 1: of you're either gonna have the Olympics or you're not
Speaker 1: in Tokyo, and I believe that's in May that I
Speaker 1: think there's a three month window that you have to
Speaker 1: decide if you're going to have the Olympics this year
Speaker 1: because of the coronavirus. And we'll talk to Mike Trico
Speaker 1: about that. Age seven seven three d P Show Email
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Speaker 1: Where we gonna go with any other poll questions? McLevin
Speaker 1: for the final hours, A whole question that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about it, but now that we know two is
Speaker 1: going to work out in April, is there a question
Speaker 1: who would you take to over Burrow? I know you
Speaker 1: and Daniel just disgusted and he's on Burrows by the way,
Speaker 1: Oregon Duck fans. I didn't say it, Daniel Jeremiah did.
Speaker 1: They're like, what's he's saying that? Justin Herbert's not a playmaker,
Speaker 1: that's Daniel Jeremiah. He's the analyst there. He throws dimes
Speaker 1: and I do know that he ran for three touchdowns
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl, and that's a playmaker. But that's
Speaker 1: not exactly what I want out of my quarterback. I'd
Speaker 1: like to know I'd like you to be more consistent.
Speaker 1: That's all. Have you focused in on this Jordan Love
Speaker 1: character yet, who's getting so much talk. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's a character, but I did. I did watch,
Speaker 1: and I told you I watched part of one game
Speaker 1: and one complete game because I was told, Hey, this
Speaker 1: guy could be somebody special. And then I watched and
Speaker 1: I said, maybe I'm missing something. And then I was told,
Speaker 1: why didn't he doesn't have a lot of weapons? There
Speaker 1: didn't they have a losing record this year? I'll check. Yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: Some of the criticism of Justin Herbert during his junior
Speaker 1: year was accuracy. I think he was fifty nine percent,
Speaker 1: but then as a sophomore he was sixty seven percent,
Speaker 1: and a senior he was sixty seven percent. The guy
Speaker 1: thrown ninety five touchdowns and twenty three picks in college.
Speaker 1: If this were ten years ago, don't you think Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert would be the shoe in number one draft pick
Speaker 1: based on dimensions and what we're used to. Well, he's
Speaker 1: got big hands too, so vachanic hands. He's got two
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, well, yes, two double checked? Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I try to be clear. You said he'd go three.
Speaker 1: That's pretty dark, CLU. I think somebody is moving up.
Speaker 1: I just it happens every year. I still count. We
Speaker 1: already know about Joe Burrow in two. There's no surprise there,
Speaker 1: you know, Daniel Jones, we didn't know. Mitchell Trubisky, we
Speaker 1: didn't know, and you had somebody who Paul All to
Speaker 1: take it just takes one team where they go, gotta
Speaker 1: have that guy. Yeah. By the way, ut was seven
Speaker 1: six last year. Okay, so bare and Jacob Eason's top
Speaker 1: ten talk just based on height. I know I saw that.
Speaker 1: I never saw once again. I never saw the consistency
Speaker 1: because it feels like every year you watch Washington and
Speaker 1: you go, man, they look like they're loaded. Boy, they
Speaker 1: look like they're there, top ten team, they're top five team,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you go, what happened
Speaker 1: to Washington? Yeah? But I remember when Jacobies got the
Speaker 1: Georgia people were in love with that guy before Jake
Speaker 1: from came to town. This is the next Matt Stafford.
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be there three and out. And he
Speaker 1: was considered a sure thing for the pros when he
Speaker 1: came to Georgia. But look at the players they've had,
Speaker 1: and the quarterback they kept is the third best quarterback
Speaker 1: out of the three Justin Fields, and then you got
Speaker 1: Easton and then you got from Yeah, I'm the club,
Speaker 1: all right, smallheads, I love you, the best player cop
Speaker 1: you've had, Jordan Love and Daniel Joes. It's like the
Speaker 1: same phenomenon all over again. I saw this quote from
Speaker 1: Bruce arians Buccaneers. I love this. He says, guarding against combine, darlings,
Speaker 1: you might run a four to three, but your tape
Speaker 1: says you're four to six. You might run a four
Speaker 1: to six, but your tape says you're four four. The
Speaker 1: tape don't lie. The combine lies. You can fall in
Speaker 1: love at the combine and get your bleep broke. That's right.
Speaker 1: That happens every year. And you could say to coaches
Speaker 1: and gems and scouts, hey, don't fall in love, and
Speaker 1: you'll get these guys who come back and they'll be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy, did you see this cone
Speaker 1: drill I They bypass what they see on tape and
Speaker 1: then they go, no, we'd rather see something where nobody's
Speaker 1: guarding anybody, tackling anybody. You're wearing shorts, you're inside that
Speaker 1: guy man hey dropping dimes and I'm like, okay, how
Speaker 1: do you do in a competition? Are we going to
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