Speaker 1: Are you leaving?
Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home? Either way, we want
Speaker 2: to be there. Doesn't matter how.
Speaker 1: Much baggage you claim and give us time and a
Speaker 1: terminol and gage.
Speaker 2: We want to send you off instat. We wanna welcome
Speaker 2: you back home. Tell us all about it. We scared
Speaker 2: or was it fine?
Speaker 3: Malborn?
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do your need ride?
Speaker 5: Ride with Karen and Chris out welcome to Do you
Speaker 5: need to ride?
Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgareff.
Speaker 5: I set out at the beginning out now if that'll
Speaker 5: be in there?
Speaker 2: If I bet it'll stay.
Speaker 4: One of my epic You know, my family lineage is
Speaker 4: filled with men with sharp molers. I bit my cheek
Speaker 4: and it's turned into this whole thing. And it's the
Speaker 4: fact that it's caused me to have a slur.
Speaker 2: Because you keep biting the same part of your cheek.
Speaker 5: Because it's so painful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't rebitten, but it turns into and I
Speaker 4: know this is gross, but it's called a canker sore.
Speaker 5: It's pretty Have you heard of these things?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Second, grade.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I get more than anyone. I'm willing.
Speaker 4: I haven't done any polling, but I think I am
Speaker 4: the top canker have her.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's bad. It's not as bad as having
Speaker 2: your hip replace, but it's pretty bad.
Speaker 5: It is today. It feels as annoying.
Speaker 2: It's the same level of hip surgery. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 4: If I were to see a doctor and then pointed
Speaker 4: to a chart of sad, smiley faces, I would say,
Speaker 4: as far as cankers go, this.
Speaker 5: Is a ten.
Speaker 2: Well. Also, I have a similar thing where I bite,
Speaker 2: And it might be because of all the dentistry and
Speaker 2: tooth work I've had done, but I bite the same
Speaker 2: spot on my cheek multiple times a day, and then
Speaker 2: that swells up and it's easier to bite as the
Speaker 2: day goes on. And that whole exercise is so infuriating
Speaker 2: that it's like kind of rubbing salt in the wound
Speaker 2: of a canker sort or a mouth wound. It's just growth.
Speaker 5: It's a vicious cycle. It needs to stop.
Speaker 2: Well, it can't stop now because we're podcasting.
Speaker 4: Right, but I'm going to try and, at the risk
Speaker 4: of biting it again.
Speaker 2: Power through it.
Speaker 5: I had a great day to day. How was your day?
Speaker 2: First of all, my day was good. I actually started.
Speaker 2: But look at that guy jogging or is he running away?
Speaker 5: I don't know. It looks like he's running.
Speaker 4: In reverse video, it looked like he was running backwards
Speaker 4: and someone reversed.
Speaker 2: It, you know, like because he had real he was
Speaker 2: real tiptoe first. Yeah, in that jog.
Speaker 5: Here's like that cat and the matrix. I don't think
Speaker 5: we really saw him.
Speaker 2: So I started my day my new obsession, and I'm
Speaker 2: positive I've talked to you about it, but now I
Speaker 2: can't remember. Is Korean skincare? Have I talked to you
Speaker 2: about it? No?
Speaker 5: Not yet, So it's kind of.
Speaker 2: Boring and I won't talk about it that much except
Speaker 2: for to say there's like a lot of products. So
Speaker 2: you like wash your face with two different products, and
Speaker 2: then you start using layers of toner and you canner.
Speaker 2: You can layer up to like seven layers of toner.
Speaker 2: Then there's all these other products and it's like a
Speaker 2: seven to ten step process. At night, I only do it.
Speaker 2: I do a little bit in the morning, but the
Speaker 2: long ones at night. And at first it was ridiculous,
Speaker 2: but I immediately saw results, so I'm like, well, this
Speaker 2: rules because I've middle aged skin that I've not taken
Speaker 2: great care of, so got into it. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's hard to get a hold of because like if
Speaker 2: you order it on Amazon and you're not positive of
Speaker 2: the source, they can send you fake stuff, all weird
Speaker 2: stuff or expired stuff. And I was like ordering from
Speaker 2: this one store in New York City, which was great,
Speaker 2: and they had a lot of stuff, but they didn't
Speaker 2: have everything, and it took a while because they were
Speaker 2: just one store. And it's becoming this popular thing, right,
Speaker 2: so there's lots of orders, I believe. But then the
Speaker 2: newest thing, which has now kind of made it a game,
Speaker 2: is that both Tjmax and Marshalls just randomly have these
Speaker 2: products on their shelves in the beauty department and it'll
Speaker 2: be like a toner that you can't find and is
Speaker 2: super rare, and all of a sudden, it's just sitting
Speaker 2: in TJ Max on sale for four dollars And does
Speaker 2: it look Korean? It is green? Yeah, it looks. It
Speaker 2: looks the way it's supposed to look. It's very strange,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I realize it became obsessed with checking
Speaker 2: when I was up at my dad's house checking my
Speaker 2: local TJ Max like every other day, because I was like, well,
Speaker 2: what if there's something there now? And it became like
Speaker 2: this treasure hunt vibe, Like I kind of felt like
Speaker 2: the people that got super into Pokemon go where you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, where it's like this thing to
Speaker 2: do that's kind of like, yeah, it isn't it's just
Speaker 2: a weird thing, but yeah, it's very fun and compelling.
Speaker 4: And it's not the game where it had people wandering
Speaker 4: into the kitchens of buildings.
Speaker 5: You's see there's a Pokemon in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a that was a dangerous I think
Speaker 5: for people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I might you might be talking to the
Speaker 4: right person, because I because of golf. It's very surprising
Speaker 4: how many older, perfectly skin faced women from the golf
Speaker 4: with yes, and it would finally be something I could mention,
Speaker 4: which is also a compliment. How where what do you
Speaker 4: use for your skin? Because it is I've been interesting.
Speaker 4: I learned about micro blading for my eyebrows. Yes, it
Speaker 4: was kind of an unsolicited you have gaps in curly
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've been meaning to do something about my eyebrows,
Speaker 4: but I don't want to look like a guy that
Speaker 4: has done something to my eye.
Speaker 5: Of course, I don't know.
Speaker 4: You don't and most people, even if it's well done,
Speaker 4: you can tell when they've doctored their eyebrows.
Speaker 2: It's really distracting.
Speaker 4: It's bald spot in the middle of my eyebrow, maybe
Speaker 4: it's a scar, maybe it's tiny alopecia.
Speaker 2: But she knows.
Speaker 5: It and said you should do micro blading.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I come on, but I've been watching videos
Speaker 4: that's it's a similar wormhole and your TJ Max Toner search.
Speaker 4: I can only equate it with my recent checking Walmart
Speaker 4: for Brother brand sewing machine because I kind of want.
Speaker 5: To buy a sewing machine.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but embroiders, it's just become a new thing
Speaker 4: that I'll dive into and it'll be in no way
Speaker 4: well bring me joy.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: Also, I don't know, I think making stuff, especially these days,
Speaker 2: people are so excited to support like an independent creator
Speaker 2: or a like somebody that isn't Walmart or somebody that
Speaker 2: isn't just like the usual where you're adding to Like
Speaker 2: there's lots of people on TikTok that take old quilts
Speaker 2: and turn them into jackets.
Speaker 4: Right, and what I've been doing lately is patching with
Speaker 4: tiny patches. I'm just you know, embellishing old clothing of
Speaker 4: mine and making it new to me again.
Speaker 5: I'm way deep.
Speaker 4: I've ordered hundreds of little tiny patches that you can
Speaker 4: put on a polo or a lapel or whatever.
Speaker 2: And when you say patches, do you mean like.
Speaker 4: Rack and this little one? See this a little I
Speaker 4: know you're operating a vehicle.
Speaker 2: I am going sixty five on the one on one
Speaker 2: South Crest.
Speaker 5: Well, right now, I have a tiny little spider web.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 4: It's not a spider Web brand pullous and it's not
Speaker 4: a real, real spider web, so don't panic.
Speaker 5: There's not a spider in.
Speaker 2: Here, but it's that real. But it's stitching. So you
Speaker 2: made it look like that's from Spiderweb brand.
Speaker 4: Right, a purpose, And I could be spider Web brand
Speaker 4: if I stuck with this.
Speaker 2: But that's somebody else's patch, right it is. You shouldn't
Speaker 2: do that right careful.
Speaker 4: Exactly, Which is why I want to get this sewing
Speaker 4: machine because I can draw and digitize my own little
Speaker 4: drawings for embroidery. Yes, I'll get writing in the machine, customizing,
Speaker 4: not only my own clothing.
Speaker 5: But those gifts are for for resale.
Speaker 2: The patches you mean, yes, gotcha.
Speaker 4: I'm going to and I'm realizing right now as I
Speaker 4: say this, ill become a famous fashion designer.
Speaker 5: So you heard it first.
Speaker 2: Chris, when you go to Milan for your first showing, Yes.
Speaker 5: I'm already looking at models.
Speaker 2: Yes, Milan fashionaly mm hm, No, I can't model, but
Speaker 2: thank you. Sorry, I'm just kind of against it. I'm
Speaker 2: not good at walking in a straight line like that, right,
Speaker 2: it's angrily and with absolutely no life in my eyes whatsoever.
Speaker 2: But what do you see as your first five pieces
Speaker 2: on the runway with this concept?
Speaker 5: I've already mentioned tiny spider webs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have to come up with four other things.
Speaker 5: Yes, there is.
Speaker 4: It will be I think in the because they're coming
Speaker 4: back big polo shirts and rugby shirts embellished with my toucher.
Speaker 4: So I'll buy them in bulk. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: claim that I own them.
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I have found a good provider of blanks,
Speaker 4: and they do have the option of bulk purchasing.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pitch some ideas because you're actually kind
Speaker 2: of skirting around the issue. I am.
Speaker 5: I am scared.
Speaker 2: I can tell you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So let's go through and say. One will be a
Speaker 2: cowboy boot with a scorpion crawling out a bit. Ah.
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm doing? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 2: Two, it could be a pen stuck into the vent
Speaker 2: avon right, just kat with its Yes.
Speaker 5: Four things from my you. This actually is a good
Speaker 5: way you're doing now.
Speaker 4: The first couple, I'm like, these are specific, but how
Speaker 4: do I make them my ideas? You're listing life experiences,
Speaker 4: which I should have caught because those are stories I've
Speaker 4: repeated a dozen times more. Probably, No, I think you
Speaker 4: you're onto something.
Speaker 2: I think people it's it's you putting a little of
Speaker 2: yourself into the design.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You don't have to each out and go like what
Speaker 2: other spider web? Right? Right, You've got your filled with
Speaker 2: spider webs.
Speaker 4: I really like scorpion kind of peeking out of a
Speaker 4: boothe yes, like an inspiration.
Speaker 2: Hang in there, scorpion, it's it's hanging there if you're
Speaker 2: a scorpion, and if you're a cowboy, it's watch out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They can be different, different different tags for different people.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna approach this piece of clothing differently.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm very excited.
Speaker 4: They're going to be very small though I'm not talking
Speaker 4: back of a bedazzled jean jacket.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go overboard, more like fingertip size,
Speaker 2: like the ad alligator.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. It's very exciting to me.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 4: Do you know how that alligator took people to the top. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it started with Milan. It took phil Izod right
Speaker 4: to where he needed to go. Philip Izod prior to
Speaker 4: making that little alligator, which was inspired, of course by
Speaker 4: his vacationing and an alligator took his foot and he said,
Speaker 4: I only this is painful, but I see dollar signs.
Speaker 2: He said, And he said, I am the kind of
Speaker 2: person that takes a wound and turns it into dollar
Speaker 2: dollar bills.
Speaker 5: Y'all yep, And that's the day quit being a limo driver.
Speaker 4: Yes, and this is a fabricated story, but it is
Speaker 4: inspiring me.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited to fabricate your fabrics.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I've had all these I had a great
Speaker 4: day today where I woke up early, I went swimming,
Speaker 4: where the twenty four hour fitness I'm going to get
Speaker 4: back into it. Okay, and I'm serious everyone, if you,
Speaker 4: if you, I've been cavalier and often lied and been
Speaker 4: not serious about body pain.
Speaker 5: But if you and I talk a lot about body pain.
Speaker 4: If you're suffering from chronic pain, no matter what the cause,
Speaker 4: inflammation specifically, swimming gets your blood flowing. And I'm not
Speaker 4: a good swimmer. I understand being intimidated by swimming. I
Speaker 4: still wear a snorkel. That lady kind of guarding the pool.
Speaker 4: There's always much like an escape park scooter. Kids are
Speaker 4: kind of by the entrance. You think they're in the way.
Speaker 4: But this lady I befriended, also probably in her eighties,
Speaker 4: was like, I'm scared. I'm intimidated to swim. That's sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm in the way. And I'm like, you're not in
Speaker 4: the way. And she said, I'm supposed to swim, but
Speaker 4: I don't know how to get started. And I showed
Speaker 4: her where to order the on my phone after swimming,
Speaker 4: where to order the snorkel. Yeah, And her husband was
Speaker 4: there and they're like, okay, we're going to get this
Speaker 4: snorkel because everyone's afraid of the breathing thing.
Speaker 5: I think yes, And then she was like, why did
Speaker 5: you start swimming.
Speaker 2: This was bad.
Speaker 5: This was where it kind of went out.
Speaker 4: I said, well, I had a hip replacement and then
Speaker 4: the doctor told me a swim and now it works great.
Speaker 4: And then she goes, well, that's a gift. That's a
Speaker 4: gift from God. And then I was like, well, not
Speaker 4: the hip pain was a gift from God. The relief
Speaker 4: was a gift from a surgeon.
Speaker 5: And that kind of hurt her feelings.
Speaker 4: And then but I was I thought maybe she would laugh,
Speaker 4: but then I realized I had to apologize then, and
Speaker 4: then she appreciated it. I just had a nice interaction.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know what was nice about that interaction,
Speaker 2: in my observation, you met that lady where she was
Speaker 2: and you adjusted when you were like, oh, this isn't
Speaker 2: a fellow comedian type, right, this is a Christian woman
Speaker 2: trying to convert me into yes.
Speaker 4: And by the end she pressured me into's saying to
Speaker 4: her God is good, which I don't just of course
Speaker 4: God is good.
Speaker 5: I tell me one story where God's the bad guy.
Speaker 2: It's always good stories about God. Yes, the whole game.
Speaker 4: And so I said that was full confidence, even though
Speaker 4: sometimes I struggle with what I believe. Whatever I she
Speaker 4: I said God is good to an old lady at
Speaker 4: like seven am.
Speaker 2: Today and made her day and made my day. Also,
Speaker 2: you should have put your your palm on her forehead
Speaker 2: and like pushed her back into the water and then
Speaker 2: been like you can swim. And then if she was
Speaker 2: truly a believer, she would have been able to.
Speaker 4: I put my thumb on her forehead and left a
Speaker 4: smudge of soot.
Speaker 2: It is it happy?
Speaker 5: Easy?
Speaker 4: It's Wednesday. Let's make it ash Wednesday.
Speaker 2: He has risen?
Speaker 4: And then I went and then dunked her under the water,
Speaker 4: and she came up, and I was wearing a long
Speaker 4: white robe.
Speaker 2: You're like, do you want to play? He has risen?
Speaker 2: And then you dunk her under the water and when
Speaker 2: she comes up, you yell, he's risen. Eyster Boddy, listen,
Speaker 2: there's a serious blockage. I mean probably there's a serious
Speaker 2: Christian faction in our audience. And we just need you
Speaker 2: guys to know we're just having fun with the Lord.
Speaker 2: We're not trying to offend you. Right.
Speaker 4: Anytime I this topic comes up, I want to make
Speaker 4: sure the Lord is laughing with me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we've had at least two
Speaker 2: different pastors reach out to say, I get it, don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. Yeah, well am I wrong about it?
Speaker 5: Will you do live recording at our megachurch? Are you
Speaker 5: getting these emails.
Speaker 2: From Joel Oswell?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's because I keep giving money to
Speaker 4: the Osmond's.
Speaker 2: Marie Osmond, and you just keep signing up for weight watchers.
Speaker 5: Donny and Marie. Yes, I'm getting that, Donny, Marie, Joel
Speaker 5: and Rob Low.
Speaker 4: They're sending these bulk emails and I can't stop giving money,
Speaker 4: whether it's.
Speaker 2: The Lord or just a no carb diet. Wait, Marie
Speaker 2: Osmond is not sorry. She's not weightwatcher. She is slimp uh.
Speaker 5: I think, yes, slim fast.
Speaker 2: Jenny Craig, it's fucking Jenny Craig.
Speaker 5: That's their slogan, now that the other one was.
Speaker 4: I I take a joke about it about being on
Speaker 4: Jenny Craig. I lost twenty pounds on Tig I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Because it's that's the commercial. Is I lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 5: On Jenny And I think it should be it's fucking
Speaker 5: Jenny Craig.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Billboards, just white billboards with black helvetica.
Speaker 2: Son, it's fucking Jenny Craig. Period, not an exclamation point.
Speaker 2: Don't be cute. No, that's not a shit. Look here's
Speaker 2: my exit. Uh oh do you think I can do this?
Speaker 2: Will I be able to show? Yes?
Speaker 5: I think so. You know what I do to let
Speaker 5: people know I'm serious? Undo the belt buckle on.
Speaker 4: I throw my arm around the passenger seat like a
Speaker 4: truck driver backing up.
Speaker 2: You could get involved, you could help.
Speaker 5: I should should I I mean maybe wry I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna even have my blinker.
Speaker 5: Oh do that first?
Speaker 2: I have HI.
Speaker 5: Oh they're they're idn't this person is not? Yeah?
Speaker 2: They will HI, thank you, thank you? Oh? I love
Speaker 2: this song. Wait we have one more to go?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'll do it again.
Speaker 2: Great, He's like, thank you, Oh my god, they all
Speaker 2: let us listener.
Speaker 5: Can you tell us what this song is?
Speaker 2: It's I can't Wait by new Shoes. Whoa Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna fucking kick this guy's out and.
Speaker 5: Not know what to do when we get to them.
Speaker 2: It's a tesla fight all night.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've done this many times where I follow someone and
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, what am I doing?
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 4: Yes, it's can only lead to a bad situation. Even
Speaker 4: if I win, I've lost that.
Speaker 2: Tesla prison We got it. We merged fairly and legally,
Speaker 2: and that Tesla went on the side where there was
Speaker 2: no room to be driving. Why would they do that?
Speaker 4: And now if they're embarrassed because we're right behind them,
Speaker 4: you know we're talking about you.
Speaker 2: I hope you feel ashamed.
Speaker 4: We're in black and you're in white. But that doesn't
Speaker 4: mean you're the good guy.
Speaker 2: Here's the explanation. Right here is this license plate holder
Speaker 2: Go Cubs.
Speaker 4: Oh, don't get me started on my passionate hatred of
Speaker 4: certain sports teams.
Speaker 2: More like go white Sox hahah because the car's white.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I like it.
Speaker 5: All right, boy, it's happening.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to be off that GD freeway.
Speaker 5: She darned good.
Speaker 2: G D is good g D. It's a relief. I
Speaker 2: feel like, here's what I if you do have the
Speaker 2: opportunity and so really quick back to the koreanskin care.
Speaker 2: You know that these women are Korean for sure. The
Speaker 2: woman that has told you to get microblading or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yes, I've been golfing long enough to know I've been
Speaker 4: often golfing with Korean women, men and women.
Speaker 5: Okay, often women.
Speaker 2: So if you said that you have such beautiful skin,
Speaker 2: can I ask it asking for a friend?
Speaker 5: I cannot tell.
Speaker 4: I'm guessing maybe they're often in their seventies, and I
Speaker 4: guess that part I can, of course, not no how
Speaker 4: far along are you?
Speaker 2: But this skin in years of life, it's what I meant.
Speaker 4: Not baby, I said, baby, but yeah, amazing skin. So
Speaker 4: whatever the routine is, I could just do some investigating.
Speaker 2: Okay, because I was just going to say, here's a guess,
Speaker 2: and this is I've gotten this from TikTok because the
Speaker 2: Korean skincare like trend got so popular. There's a trend
Speaker 2: which I love where women go on and make videos
Speaker 2: with their moms and so their moms are like, this
Speaker 2: is what I have been using all my life, and
Speaker 2: you're getting like super inside. And a big thing is
Speaker 2: rice water where they rinse their rice like three times
Speaker 2: and the third rinse they keep the water and then
Speaker 2: they put that on their skin. And that's supposed to
Speaker 2: be amazing for your skin.
Speaker 5: Would that work for pasta water?
Speaker 2: No, Chris, that's Italian brand.
Speaker 4: Simes recipes call for me setting aside reserve boiled pasta
Speaker 4: water and then I forget to use it. So in
Speaker 4: those cases I could splash it on my face, of course.
Speaker 2: But then you'll just look like chef boyardy.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: I was really grabing for that one.
Speaker 5: Who's the chef that looked exactly?
Speaker 4: And it's extra confusing because I think sometimes Dom DeLuise
Speaker 4: did do chef things.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is Chef Prudome. Wow they look alike, Yes,
Speaker 2: they really do. Paul Prudome was a very famous like creole.
Speaker 2: I believe he was like a New Orleans chef that
Speaker 2: had a lot of creole recipes. That's from what I remember,
Speaker 2: because there was an era on public television which my
Speaker 2: parents watched a lot, kind of irritating and boring at
Speaker 2: the same time. Is it this is this my turn?
Speaker 2: I guess it is. This is the weirdest way to
Speaker 2: get anywhere.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's making us avoid things though unforeseen dangers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to trust it. Where there's a lot
Speaker 2: of chefs on PBS, there was Emerald he was early days.
Speaker 5: Yes, we're just retelling.
Speaker 2: A story, right, well, a news story, Like I think
Speaker 2: it's definitely fact based, but you heard.
Speaker 5: Anyone he's frugal, call him cheating right, he started it,
Speaker 5: we're just repeating what everyone already knows.
Speaker 2: But then there was like, uh, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking of the.
Speaker 5: Soda pop upside down. It's a cake mountain dew.
Speaker 2: An old shoe dumping a can of soda and you're
Speaker 2: not don't walk your dog like that. There's a little
Speaker 2: kid just dragging a dog. Did you see that that lady? Oh,
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 5: Where is it a little kid? Let's ask about her
Speaker 5: skin routine.
Speaker 2: Dude, how far long are you.
Speaker 5: With your skin life?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: What's that just reminded me of I was being very
Speaker 2: judgmental about her. But it's really irritating when your dog
Speaker 2: is bad on the leash. And my dog, George Rip
Speaker 2: was so terrible on a leash that one time she
Speaker 2: would just be like a lunatic always like she would
Speaker 2: it was like she wanted to run, and so she
Speaker 2: was really hard to control and she was like always
Speaker 2: like it was like she's hannicking all the time. It's crazy,
Speaker 2: and she was just do crazy stuff. And if we'd
Speaker 2: turn a corner and there would be a dog like
Speaker 2: at the end of the other block, she would go insane.
Speaker 2: And like try to run do all the shit. So
Speaker 2: one time she was doing all that and I tried
Speaker 2: to stop her, and physically I just basically pinned her
Speaker 2: to the ground, just with my hands. I wasn't like
Speaker 2: doing anything totally violent, but it was purely out of frustration, right, Sorry, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 2: sorry sorry. He knew, he understood, he got it.
Speaker 5: He's like, you made a mistake. I was going to
Speaker 5: be a victim, but I understand.
Speaker 2: He was like, you just tried to get across. Why
Speaker 2: are they taking us this way? It's the worst way
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 5: Maybe the car listened and we're going near a Korean spa.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so relaxed. Just dropped me off and then
Speaker 2: win up.
Speaker 5: After I was fostering.
Speaker 4: Martha Kelly's dog in Austin, I would run with it
Speaker 4: because the dog had so much energy, and the dog
Speaker 4: would run pretty straight and very fast, and knew that
Speaker 4: I was on the leash. But the second there was
Speaker 4: a motorcycle, that dog would be lined ninety degree leap
Speaker 4: into try and bite the tires on the motorcycle, which
Speaker 4: is very problematic, and it would cause me to dive
Speaker 4: on the sidewalk.
Speaker 5: I di wrecked big time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dog, and I would have to do the same thing,
Speaker 4: hold the dog until the motorcycle was like a block away.
Speaker 4: I do not know what this dog wouldn't do it
Speaker 4: with other dogs or with anything else. There could be
Speaker 4: someone with a foot long HOGI or a longer HOGI.
Speaker 4: Two men carrying a hogy across the street.
Speaker 2: What if foot HOGI?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like one of the fifteen foot long hogies where
Speaker 4: motorcycle stuntman drives through and has.
Speaker 5: HOGI what a thinking of a Scooby Doo moment.
Speaker 4: Anyway, this dog Josh motorcycles where this dog's long holegates
Speaker 4: loved God so hungry for motorcycles.
Speaker 5: God that would die of It's just dangerous. Yes, but
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 4: Dogs that are bad on leashes, and I'm not pointing
Speaker 4: fingers to you come from humans. You know complete completely
Speaker 4: what I'd like to see some of your leash work.
Speaker 2: Well, I had terrible leashwork, and I would get I
Speaker 2: would get so frustrated because I was always trying to
Speaker 2: walk her before I went to work. It was just
Speaker 2: like I had this system was bad. Then I started
Speaker 2: taking to the dog park in the morning and that
Speaker 2: solved everything because I just had to walk her to
Speaker 2: the actual park part and then let her go and
Speaker 2: she would run and run and run and run, and
Speaker 2: then when we'd go to leave, she'd be fine on
Speaker 2: the leash. Oh, because she really did. She was. It
Speaker 2: was like kind of having a horse because she just
Speaker 2: needed to run a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's important to take your dogs to dog park.
Speaker 4: I think I do too, even if it like if
Speaker 4: dogs freak out around other dogs.
Speaker 5: It just stresses me out at.
Speaker 4: A dog park when dogs start, even if they're not
Speaker 4: really fighting, when they're all on a pile and they're
Speaker 4: barking and showing.
Speaker 2: Teeth, I like, runaway.
Speaker 5: If I'm response, I can't handle it.
Speaker 2: Also, don't forget there's because I would take her early
Speaker 2: in the morning so I wouldn't obviously before work. And
Speaker 2: also to not have to deal with other dogs, because
Speaker 2: George was like on the borderline of like wanted to
Speaker 2: kill every other dog. She was very fairal but anyway,
Speaker 2: fun but also fun, and she met well. But one
Speaker 2: morning we were there, the dog's running, and I'm drinking
Speaker 2: some coffee and standing there, and then I look up
Speaker 2: and there's just a guy dressed in a samurai outfit
Speaker 2: doing sword stuff and he's just like on the other
Speaker 2: side of the park. And I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: this is where I die at the dog park.
Speaker 5: Sword play is always intimidating.
Speaker 2: Solo sword play in the morning at a part.
Speaker 4: A famous skate spot that plaza, oh the nineties, and
Speaker 4: it's one of those men. It used to be you'd
Speaker 4: get arrested there, and now the security there apparently comes
Speaker 4: out and tells you, you know, come at four o'clock
Speaker 4: when I get off.
Speaker 5: Oh, and I had the guy after that doesn't care.
Speaker 5: But why I told my boss I would care.
Speaker 4: Like they communicate with the skateboarders and everyone can skate there.
Speaker 5: Now it's cool adhere to a schedule.
Speaker 2: Yes, just have to be respectful.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I mean I do. I guess
Speaker 2: in the like, why is it? Why has it always
Speaker 2: been such a problem the noise?
Speaker 5: It is probably the noise.
Speaker 4: And it's funny because I understand almost now that I've
Speaker 4: gotten older. I'm like, ah, that clickety clack, just land
Speaker 4: the trick. But there's also the I will admit there is,
Speaker 4: damn it.
Speaker 5: You wax.
Speaker 4: The time unless it's a marble ledge like this one
Speaker 4: up on the right. The listener can't see so.
Speaker 5: White wax, it's right there. The wax.
Speaker 4: You wax it and that turns black and it melts
Speaker 4: and looks dirty and gross.
Speaker 2: Oh so they're kind of touching stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, yes, I understand. Where where I guess?
Speaker 2: Oh there we go? Where where that's it seems like
Speaker 2: it was right behind us. But I didn't see anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I the sirens are the opposite of directional.
Speaker 5: They're just all encompassible.
Speaker 2: It's everywhere. Yeah, it's all around you.
Speaker 4: They got to redesign those, so I understand it is
Speaker 4: sort of vandalism, but in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 4: who cares if there's a little dirt on your curb?
Speaker 2: Well, and also, but I I guess, and this is whatever.
Speaker 2: But it's like they're doing something cool, so why don't
Speaker 2: you just watch it and like enjoy it? Right?
Speaker 4: I think it's a lot like in the beginning with snowboarding.
Speaker 4: Everyone was learning how to do it, and they were
Speaker 4: kind of more out of control than skiers that are
Speaker 4: riding around with two effective edges.
Speaker 5: But over time snowboarders.
Speaker 4: Got just as much control over what they're doing as skiers,
Speaker 4: and then it started to be allowed at more ski areas.
Speaker 4: When I first started, there was tons of like fail,
Speaker 4: all these big ski areas that would not allow snowboarding
Speaker 4: because we all kind of sucked and would run into people.
Speaker 4: And I think, what, maybe security guards and everyone is
Speaker 4: recognizing now and I am indeed talking out of my ass,
Speaker 4: but they are seeing that skateboarders are aware of pedestrians
Speaker 4: and will do everything to avoid because that's the other thing.
Speaker 4: What do you run running somebody, which occasionally happens, and
Speaker 4: then you know that skater obviously feels bad. It's not
Speaker 4: like yeah another one, yes, high five and their friends.
Speaker 4: But I think that was what they thought in the nineties,
Speaker 4: that we're just trying to run into people and heard.
Speaker 3: Them yeah, but it wasn't the case.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you see the video of the snowboarder and the
Speaker 2: they're going down and then a gigantic brown bear runs
Speaker 2: across the No oh man, oh, I got to show
Speaker 2: it to you.
Speaker 4: I've seen one with a wild boar chasing after skiers
Speaker 4: coming down the ski area and was like trying to
Speaker 4: bite skiers in the legs. Really, a giant boar.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 5: I don't know where it was not around here.
Speaker 2: Well, this one was truly like a bear. It was
Speaker 2: like the revenant bear ran across the slope scary, and
Speaker 2: it is so scary. And then there's another one where
Speaker 2: there's a girl who you can tell she's probably professional
Speaker 2: or almost professional, and she's got a GoPro on right,
Speaker 2: and you can see behind her like she's going like
Speaker 2: this to escape, but she's not. She's looking out and down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but she's holding up a GoPro and a brown bear
Speaker 2: just starts chasing her and chases her for a while
Speaker 2: and then just like gets bored and goes somewhere else.
Speaker 4: I bet this starts to happen more and more because
Speaker 4: I it was an un not unfounded, m confounded. It
Speaker 4: was a unnecessary fear of mine when I was younger,
Speaker 4: that a there'd be one bear that decided not to
Speaker 4: hibernate and chase me down the mountain. I'm pretty scared
Speaker 4: of bears, unfounded. And I grew up in Montana, where
Speaker 4: there are bears.
Speaker 2: There where there's plenty of bear threat.
Speaker 5: They always are sleeping.
Speaker 4: But now that our seasons are all out of whack, yeah,
Speaker 4: everyone gets confused.
Speaker 5: Birds are flying in the wrong direction.
Speaker 2: There's problems with them not getting enough water, right.
Speaker 4: And these bears are like, I don't know what day
Speaker 4: it is. I just know I'm gonna eat your leg.
Speaker 2: I just love your outfit. Yes, give me some of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's I bet it starts. I'm predicting that
Speaker 4: there's going to be more bear sightings a.
Speaker 2: Ski area probably.
Speaker 5: So stay indoors everyone.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that I was. I felt like I
Speaker 2: was walking like naked with a robe on. But it's
Speaker 2: just that his taki pants were exactly the color of
Speaker 2: his skin.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I see that a lot where it's just oh, naked
Speaker 4: guy in the street with baggy skins.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always made it, although today I am wearing
Speaker 4: a flesh colored shirt, but it would be also required
Speaker 4: me now black stripes tattooed.
Speaker 2: Down my arms. But Tiger Boy, yeah.
Speaker 4: You know he'll lose some friends with the bad boy.
Speaker 4: I am National Inquirer's Tiger Boy.
Speaker 2: Tiger Boy. I like it, so are we.
Speaker 4: I'm if we're in this whole drive, I have no
Speaker 4: idea what city we're in.
Speaker 5: We have gone down roads that I've never been down.
Speaker 2: Where I think this is a this is an edge
Speaker 2: of Koreatown. That's a guess.
Speaker 5: Sure, okay, but this is sending us weird.
Speaker 4: This is like early ways where it's like, go down
Speaker 4: this crazy road you've never I know, I know the
Speaker 4: shortest way.
Speaker 5: And it's through these bizarre areas. We're gonna make it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna it's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: And there are these moments where there's a long silence
Speaker 4: and fear washes over me that I have said all
Speaker 4: the things I could possibly.
Speaker 5: Say to your friend.
Speaker 2: You're the friend, oh ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it affects you too.
Speaker 2: I don't fear that because I think it's an improv right.
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're gas tank is empty, right,
Speaker 2: all I'm going to say is you know boot scorpion
Speaker 2: and we get we dive right back there.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I am glad that that was a really
Speaker 5: good idea.
Speaker 2: I know, I have so many good dude, here we go.
Speaker 4: I was also thinking of illustrating little signs that you
Speaker 4: could hold up to people in traffic, things that say
Speaker 4: like slow down, or that was nice, or thank you
Speaker 4: for letting me merge.
Speaker 2: They had that in the eighties.
Speaker 5: Did they did it cause a lot of traffic accidents?
Speaker 2: I think people bought them for fun at Christmas and
Speaker 2: no one actually used them.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I guess, ma'am.
Speaker 2: Are you that was bizarre. She was walking in front
Speaker 2: of my car.
Speaker 4: That was someone that's like, I don't know if I
Speaker 4: should get into my car or just kill myself.
Speaker 2: Become a terrible statistic.
Speaker 4: She was walking to her car but was six feet
Speaker 4: away from it, which put her in the middle of
Speaker 4: the road.
Speaker 2: That was very odd and.
Speaker 5: What added to it and she had a real I
Speaker 5: give up look on her face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't seem happy, that's for sure. But there's
Speaker 2: a guy behind me, So I'm going to go up.
Speaker 5: Here, look at this perfect spot. There we go.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Hi, ladies and gentlemen. To you.
Speaker 4: You know today's guest as she's a comedian, writer, podcaster, actor.
Speaker 4: Sometimes put your ears together for Akila hughes.
Speaker 2: Wow, well warm, welcome, right.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know that we've ever done that
Speaker 6: clap together. I always do it just to fill Okay,
Speaker 6: you know, I guess I've always ignored it.
Speaker 2: I play the audience in that How are you? I
Speaker 2: am so good? I mean now I'm not.
Speaker 3: Let's be real. I feel like you're at the end
Speaker 3: of days. Things feel like the world is ending in
Speaker 3: slow motion. So with that as the backdrop for life,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm.
Speaker 2: Doing okay with that is the backtop for this podcast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and nothing makes you other than just paying attention
Speaker 4: to what's happening you. It really is compounded by gloomy weather.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, in La, the hot girl of all the cities?
Speaker 3: What is she doing?
Speaker 2: Why won't she get out of bed? It's so weird.
Speaker 3: She's making me said, I'm making her sad. I just
Speaker 3: feel like we're not on the same page. But it's Yeah.
Speaker 3: For the people listening, La usually is pretty decent, and
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't say this is even bad. It's
Speaker 3: just grey, right, which feels like another symbolism for life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, middle, it's like it can't it's not picking a side,
Speaker 2: which is worse.
Speaker 3: I think we're just kind of an a liminal space.
Speaker 2: Yea. The crowd is great, this guy is great.
Speaker 4: I try and enjoy it as if were a season,
Speaker 4: because we don't really have seasons here.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, ooh, this cold Winner's day.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. I mean, maybe here's the thing.
Speaker 3: By the end of this podcast, I bet you're gonna
Speaker 3: make me a much sunnier person.
Speaker 2: Oh, I guarantee it.
Speaker 5: Oh why did I do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why you're not a guarantee? We can't.
Speaker 5: The minute I said a sweat back of my.
Speaker 3: Shirt, I regret it.
Speaker 5: I regret I don't suggest we attempt. How about that?
Speaker 2: Do you care that neither Margot Robbie nor Gretigerwig was
Speaker 2: nominated for an Oscar for Barbie? I mean care? Right?
Speaker 3: The definition of care? Like, I guess here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Not really, I don't think, as like a citizen alive today,
Speaker 3: I can really hold any emotion for someone not getting
Speaker 3: nominated for an award. Yeah, yeah, I thought the movie
Speaker 3: was excellent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3: I also think people get snubbed all the time, and
Speaker 3: a lot of movies that are great don't get made
Speaker 3: very true.
Speaker 4: I think what everyone it's the irony of of the
Speaker 4: you know, the plot of that movie being about everything,
Speaker 4: the patriarchy thing, everything, and the whole purpose of the
Speaker 4: movie was to get back to it being a matriarchy,
Speaker 4: and that's what everyone's noticing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what's shitty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is. It feels ironic, but it's
Speaker 3: also like, I mean, in a way kind of I
Speaker 3: think the benefit of the movie where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like now you can point it out and see it,
Speaker 3: like especially if you're a kid, which, like I think
Speaker 3: is who the movie was mostly for. It's like, you
Speaker 3: know you, you now can have an example to point
Speaker 3: to to be like, oh that's right, Yes, these people
Speaker 3: were wonderful and guess what this is what happens. Like
Speaker 3: if we expected the Barbie Movie to defeat the Patriarchy,
Speaker 3: I think we had lofty golds exactly.
Speaker 2: All in one. It's supposed to come out, it's supposed to.
Speaker 3: Be the number one movie of all time, and then
Speaker 3: it's also supposed to make beyond making them all like wealthy,
Speaker 3: beyond imagination, right, everybody should get awards and have their
Speaker 3: asses kissed at every award.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, like the people that they made
Speaker 2: the movie about, because ultimately I think the Academy are
Speaker 2: probably some of the biggest parts of the patriarchy. It's like,
Speaker 2: you've made a movie about the people that we're going
Speaker 2: to vote for whether or not they're going to give
Speaker 2: your movie an award.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is probably it's just a publicity stunt. This
Speaker 4: is just another push to promote the movie. This is
Speaker 4: what the movie is about. By the way, now you
Speaker 4: have to.
Speaker 3: See it exactly. Now you got to know what they're
Speaker 3: saying about the patriarchy. Yeah, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 3: think I'm I'm I'm also just not super moved by
Speaker 3: the Oscars ever, of all the award shows, I think that,
Speaker 3: like movies are are so much further ranging that it's
Speaker 3: hard to have them compete against each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like TV.
Speaker 3: I'm like, they should have a procedural show, every show
Speaker 3: that has one hundred episodes to go up against each other.
Speaker 3: It's a cop show, if it's a medical show, it's
Speaker 3: a legal show, like whatever it is.
Speaker 5: It's time we recognize Bones. I'm so tired. I have
Speaker 5: never I can't even visualize who's in Bones.
Speaker 1: It's somebody, somebody, Dah, the blond one, the sister, Yeah, Emily,
Speaker 1: it Ishew.
Speaker 2: Been playing at the top of my intelligence. I think
Speaker 2: we appreciate that it is so much podcast especially and
Speaker 2: and then I think the guy that was the the
Speaker 2: guy in Bones was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Am
Speaker 2: I wrong?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to tell you, Oh, David, am
Speaker 3: I right?
Speaker 2: Sick?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a fact check and yes.
Speaker 2: That feels so good real time because it's almost always no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never. I also just don't. I'm so bad
Speaker 3: with names. I think it's like, it's probably why my
Speaker 3: career is not better. People think I'm an asshole, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's I think everybody has this problem.
Speaker 3: But like, I've tried so many different strategies, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I could see this person in my favorite movie be
Speaker 3: their biggest fan, be in their fan club, and then
Speaker 3: if someone asked me their name, I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: want to say Jersey Mikes.
Speaker 2: We're driving past the Jerseys. Is that Jersey Mike, Jersey
Speaker 2: Mike David.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's out here, he's still act.
Speaker 4: I love that movie Jersey Mikes. They're all male strippers
Speaker 4: and they all go on that tour together and you
Speaker 4: share the sandwich Jersey Mikes.
Speaker 3: Do they have to save the sandwich happens?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been trying to use those is it pneumatic devices?
Speaker 4: Now that's a type of drill mnemonic. Ye, yes, where
Speaker 4: you I still don't know what the device is, so
Speaker 4: it's not working.
Speaker 3: I did get one good bit of advice once, which
Speaker 3: was that you should if you know someone with the
Speaker 3: same name, so it's really kind of limited. But if
Speaker 3: you know someone with that same first name, imagine the
Speaker 3: new person you're meeting murdering the person that you know
Speaker 3: with that name, and then you'll never forget it, but
Speaker 3: like make it very like visceral, so you're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, that's Lance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they would probably want to murder them because yes,
Speaker 4: that's the name everyone always stuff with me.
Speaker 5: I wish I could kill.
Speaker 2: That reminds me your's I think in that moment, because
Speaker 2: I do the exact same thing, and it is that
Speaker 2: I'm I think I have fucked it up at times
Speaker 2: where the person was not the kind of person you
Speaker 2: want to fuck it up with. And so then I
Speaker 2: have this a little bit of PTST where I will
Speaker 2: know a person for years and every once in a
Speaker 2: while go to say their name and be like, what
Speaker 2: if it's wrong? Yeah, And then I can't get rid
Speaker 2: of that idea, and then I can't say their name totally,
Speaker 2: like a weird shit like that where the knemonic aides
Speaker 2: wouldn't even come into play because I'm having some bizarre
Speaker 2: internal thing.
Speaker 3: I feel that way about speaking out loud generally, like
Speaker 3: the moment I start saying a word that I know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, actually, what if that's I get to
Speaker 3: Google to be like, is that the word? Yeah, it
Speaker 3: happened to me yesterday with nuclear proliferation? Like, do I
Speaker 3: mean proliberation?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I do?
Speaker 3: Why do I have to second guess myself?
Speaker 2: This is what Barbie's about, right, there's a world that
Speaker 2: children could grow up in where that's not how they
Speaker 2: feel about nuclear proiberation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not only kNs.
Speaker 2: Know the words.
Speaker 3: I know the words.
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: You know it? H Do you have a favorite movie
Speaker 2: that did get nominated or do you care?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I mean kind of yes. So I love
Speaker 3: American fiction.
Speaker 5: It's so good.
Speaker 2: You loved it?
Speaker 5: I loved I saw it the night before last.
Speaker 3: I've had like I love it so much. A fun
Speaker 3: fact is that so I'm probably biased because I love
Speaker 3: Cord Jefferson and like everybody does, he's beyond being a
Speaker 3: great writer, just like deeply a handsome man and everybody's like, wow,
Speaker 3: let him go. But he also was is best friends
Speaker 3: with my old housemate, and so like, basically I'll set
Speaker 3: the stage. It was twenty twenty, right after New Year's
Speaker 3: so like before all of the COVID sort of hit
Speaker 3: the fan.
Speaker 2: And he had gone.
Speaker 3: They had gone on a trip together somewhere and when
Speaker 3: Coryan and my housemate Tommy got back the town, Cord's
Speaker 3: house had flooded, so we had to stay with us
Speaker 3: for a week. And the book he was reading is
Speaker 3: what eventually became the adaptation that he's now nominated for him.
Speaker 2: Like, that's amazing, You're part of the origin story, you
Speaker 2: know what? I would think?
Speaker 3: There is a studio dog in the credits name Fauci,
Speaker 3: and my dog's name is Fauci, And I'm like, I
Speaker 3: gotta know, like, could it be winning an oscar?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: I did you get your dog around that time?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I love that name. Hi.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, There's not a lot we can do.
Speaker 4: There's car doesn't go sideways, these non directional sirens. If
Speaker 4: we just had a way, yeah, like maybe put a
Speaker 4: funnel around it.
Speaker 3: Also like fifty lanes. I'm like, I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like you're going the other directions just yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, really yeah, who's in the wrong classically here?
Speaker 2: But wait, well, you guys tell me what this movie
Speaker 2: is because I haven't even know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought I thought it was about court.
Speaker 3: No, so it's like actually already a book that he adapted.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that the book is called American Fiction.
Speaker 3: I wish I remember the name of the actual book,
Speaker 3: but I remember he was being interviewed about Watchman because
Speaker 3: this was before he won the Emmy for it, and
Speaker 3: so taking a call and I had to sit in
Speaker 3: the house because he had one of those doors or
Speaker 3: if you open the door, it would be like outside,
Speaker 3: Like I'm just gonna wait for him to stop talking.
Speaker 3: And it was the longest interview and he was just
Speaker 3: like asked what he was reading, And of course I
Speaker 3: can't remember, but based on a book, it's about an
Speaker 3: author who is basically getting no traction in his career.
Speaker 3: He's black, he's a professor, and he's just kind of
Speaker 3: burned out and gets put on sort of a leave
Speaker 3: for work, and he basically decides, after like seeing this
Speaker 3: woman louded for like a very stereotypical black book about
Speaker 3: like ghetto lives and shootings and whatever, that he's going
Speaker 3: to write a fake version basically of that and certification
Speaker 3: to himself, Yeah totally. And then he sends it to
Speaker 3: his agent and they like get all of these off
Speaker 3: and then the lie just spins out from there. It's
Speaker 3: so well done. The rules are amazing. Sterling. Kay Brown
Speaker 3: plays Jeffrey Wright's gay younger brother and is just so fantastic,
Speaker 3: such a good, so good role for him, and like
Speaker 3: if he wins The Oscar, I would I mean, I
Speaker 3: always be happy.
Speaker 4: I love Jeffrey right, he's really good in it too.
Speaker 4: I didn't know how much I love that guy until
Speaker 4: this movie. It was just and it's subtle, and it's it's.
Speaker 3: Like enjoyable, Like it's just like it's a movie where
Speaker 3: you don't go into it like here's the homework because
Speaker 3: it's an Oscar movie. It's like it's actually just a
Speaker 3: movie that's very funny and fun.
Speaker 5: And I loved that I knew nothing about it.
Speaker 4: And then it was kind of like an old like
Speaker 4: Albert Brookes movie or something like comedically the pacing. But
Speaker 4: then it was so I love the way it played out,
Speaker 4: and you're watching the movie, you're watching the different versions.
Speaker 3: Of yeah, what it could be.
Speaker 5: What it could be? Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was very smart, Yeah, and made me feel good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was like I was in a good movie. I
Speaker 4: like keep thinking about you know when you watch a
Speaker 4: movie and you just keep thinking about it for a week.
Speaker 2: It's right.
Speaker 3: It made me like want to write again. I feel like,
Speaker 3: not that I had stopped writing, because you know this
Speaker 3: industry never lets you rest, That's.
Speaker 2: Right, I hope not.
Speaker 3: But I it made me remember like, oh yeah, like
Speaker 3: you can actually make something that's like profound but also subtle.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it made me not great. It made me
Speaker 4: write down notes and everything. How do I copy.
Speaker 3: This exactly for Plage Horizon Jefferson Google?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the perfect turn on a movie like that. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 2: I really loved the Watchman series. I was just so
Speaker 2: flown away by it because I thought I knew what
Speaker 2: it was going to.
Speaker 3: Be, like totally same, so good, and like I'm always
Speaker 3: the person, especially with HBO shows where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let the first week premiere. I don't need to
Speaker 3: necessarily be like in the discourse immediately because it's going
Speaker 3: to be too much and what if I don't like it?
Speaker 3: But now I'm committed, right, So, like three weeks in
Speaker 3: I start watching it. I'm like this is like I
Speaker 3: started like a group text with some friends were also
Speaker 3: watching it, Like we had all these theories.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how again, were you overhearing his chords?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically the way the house was set up,
Speaker 3: I like I was renting with my friend Tommy, and
Speaker 3: I was staying in like the guest house because it
Speaker 3: was like two bedrooms in the house, and I had
Speaker 3: like a third roommate who eventually was going to show up.
Speaker 3: We just never he was just paying and so Cord
Speaker 3: took that bedroom, and so I think I was just
Speaker 3: in the house doing laundry, Like I spent a lot
Speaker 3: of time in the house, but for some reason, I
Speaker 3: was in there and when you open the back door,
Speaker 3: it like would be like back door front door, Like
Speaker 3: we'd just talk. And when I got in the house,
Speaker 3: I realized he was in the middle of like a
Speaker 3: long form interview podcast, and like, I mean, it went
Speaker 3: on for like an hour after I got in the house,
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is crazy. But I was
Speaker 3: just listening to him talk and at some point they
Speaker 3: got to what he was reading.
Speaker 5: This so funny.
Speaker 4: Then you got a sneak pick of this episode of
Speaker 4: whatever podcast it was because you.
Speaker 3: Were, yeah hearing it, and no, he had no idea.
Speaker 5: You already have listeners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a I have to make this about myself,
Speaker 2: thank you. Well, just that that same thing happened to me.
Speaker 2: I'd never had a security system before in the house
Speaker 2: that I moved into, and it had that, but it
Speaker 2: was turned way down, so I would open the front
Speaker 2: door and I thought somebody was in the house, and
Speaker 2: it happened multiple times until I finally was like, you're
Speaker 2: saying the same thing every time, like it's not a ghost,
Speaker 2: you know whatever.
Speaker 3: I finished businesses that you opened the door.
Speaker 2: It was like it would just be like it was
Speaker 2: a lady. Ultimately, if it was full volume, she would
Speaker 2: have gone front door like that, kind of like a
Speaker 2: like a subway lady. But it was way low, so
Speaker 2: it just sounded like somebody had something to say about
Speaker 2: where I was going, and it was super creepy.
Speaker 4: Now, and this is very specific, but that voice that
Speaker 4: you just did is also I think that voiceover actor
Speaker 4: also got the job to do all the elevator voiceovers,
Speaker 4: and she gets very sensual when she says third floor.
Speaker 3: Have you noticed that every use her one?
Speaker 4: I think yeah, everywhere fourth floor, fifth floor, third floor.
Speaker 2: She goes for it.
Speaker 5: It is certain, it's like that Aerosmith video. I don't.
Speaker 4: I just have noticed in all the what a what
Speaker 4: an awesome voiceover gig to get I guess.
Speaker 2: That's my point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, make sure that you get a break before
Speaker 3: you have to do the third floor.
Speaker 2: You might have to let it all hang out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now on this floor, go ahead, just do whatever
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 2: This is the sex floor. Yeah, as everyone knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, third floor is always porn floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteenth is not, doesn't It's not there because it's unlucky. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all just a farce.
Speaker 4: And be really wacky when you get we get into
Speaker 4: these parking levels.
Speaker 2: Now go let them know where they're at.
Speaker 5: Kayle, you've done voice over.
Speaker 3: Work, right, Yeah, well, like you know, I've done a
Speaker 3: news podcast, so it's not voiceover, but that's you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of talking and words that I'm reading because
Speaker 3: it was more written. You know, this is more just
Speaker 3: us hanging out. But I did. I did a voice
Speaker 3: for Bob's Burgers, right, Okay, the best show, the best show.
Speaker 3: I kind of wish I had done a silly voice.
Speaker 3: Like when I listen to it now, it's so jarring
Speaker 3: because it's just me talking that, Like I can't even
Speaker 3: like play it because my dog is like freaks out
Speaker 3: in barks. But it's like, I guess, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't really do voices, so it would be really embarrassing
Speaker 3: if I had just like really gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, an Italian accent or something. They just keep it
Speaker 2: in like that's aculing. He's like, you don't have to
Speaker 2: put my name in the show.
Speaker 4: It's funny because I keep going into over the years,
Speaker 4: going to nickelode and I've never booked anything. And I
Speaker 4: think it's because I cartoon it up, hey guys, and
Speaker 4: they just they always say, okay, one more time and
Speaker 4: just use your voice, and I cartoon and up.
Speaker 3: Your voice is so cartoony.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I get that.
Speaker 4: My already cartoonish voice gets me in the door, and
Speaker 4: then I up it this guy, this guy's a cartoon
Speaker 4: over acting.
Speaker 3: I've never I guess I've never really booked it either.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The Bob's Burgers thing came together very weird. I'll give
Speaker 3: you the cliffs notes version. I wrote a book in
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. It hadn't come out yet. It was the summer.
Speaker 3: I got a call from my acting agent and was
Speaker 3: like she was like, hey, so the Malinos who do
Speaker 3: Bob's Burgers requested a copy of your book early, I guess,
Speaker 3: and they liked it, so they they were wondering if
Speaker 3: you'd be interested in writing for the Great North, Like
Speaker 3: they just want to call and meet with you to
Speaker 3: made this great meeting, and I like, send some samples,
Speaker 3: and I agreed to take the job. And then a
Speaker 3: day later, Crooked Media called me and was like, hey,
Speaker 3: so we want you to this. So I already took
Speaker 3: a job, like I don't know if I can get
Speaker 3: out of it. I was so like I didn't sleep
Speaker 3: for days. I was like I was every phone call
Speaker 3: was a pro con list with anyone who would listen
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: Because you want them to make a decision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to decide between the two because one
Speaker 3: would be like I'd fly out here and be by coastal.
Speaker 3: At that point, I was living in New York. The
Speaker 3: other for Crooked it was like you're moving here full time,
Speaker 3: this is your life And I just didn't know. And
Speaker 3: I ultimately went with Crooked because I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe this will also give me more writing opportunities and
Speaker 3: like whatever else. And so I had to break the
Speaker 3: news to them as if they give a ship, like
Speaker 3: they work with the most famous. But I'm like, oh god,
Speaker 3: this is gonna move their lives, and you.
Speaker 2: Don't want to seem like you didn't really want it, Like.
Speaker 3: I really wanted them to know, like I'm such a
Speaker 3: huge fan, like obviously bob'sburg is huge to me. But
Speaker 3: like anything they want to do, I'm interested in seeing it.
Speaker 3: And so their consolation president was like, well, would you
Speaker 3: want to do a voice on Bob's Burgers? And I'm like, yeah, actually,
Speaker 3: more than anything, great, I should turn down jobs more
Speaker 3: often and see what.
Speaker 5: And they do that. So that crooked job brought you
Speaker 5: from New York?
Speaker 2: Tell yeah? And was that daily?
Speaker 3: It was daily news five days a week, Sunday through Thursday.
Speaker 3: We would record, but it would come out the next morning.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I imagine the year was twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: so COVID Trump and Black Lives Matter summery.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had great health in turn, so my therapist was
Speaker 3: really excellent.
Speaker 2: God. Yeah, because you have to then turn around a top.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, and were you writing the copy? Wow? Wow?
Speaker 3: So I mean, honestly, I'm very proud of it, but
Speaker 3: like god, that was the most taxing job I've ever had,
Speaker 3: because it's like the news doesn't stop, and you know,
Speaker 3: the news has kind of been going downhill for a
Speaker 3: while now, but that felt like just an explosion of
Speaker 3: all of the things. And like you were saying, it's
Speaker 3: like you do you know, you do an episode and
Speaker 3: then you like turn off your computer and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna relax, and your mom calls and it's like
Speaker 3: you hear the lightest about COVID, like because you're an
Speaker 3: expert now to correct all of her miss and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I can't do this all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe you can use this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And those those days were the days where we
Speaker 2: were all getting like there was that one video where
Speaker 2: the guys like wipe down your cereal boxes, like that
Speaker 2: ship where we were.
Speaker 3: There was apro was like you couldn't touch your face.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was eating salads with hand sanitizers dressing.
Speaker 5: I was really wiping them down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would say like all of my fights with my
Speaker 3: old housemate, and they were not real fights, they were
Speaker 3: so minor, but they were always like you came in
Speaker 3: and just like just came straight in, didn't wash your hands,
Speaker 3: just touch everything, like I just feel like you're trying
Speaker 3: to get me killed, like it was just on the
Speaker 3: highest level. And he's like, I'm sorry, like I'll wash
Speaker 3: my hands right now. I don't understand. And now we
Speaker 3: look back and I'm like, yeah, so that was pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fine. We were all doing our best.
Speaker 2: I mean, how long had you known your housemate at
Speaker 2: that point?
Speaker 3: I mean I guess about a year, Like we had
Speaker 3: known each other like kind of sporadically. He produces for
Speaker 3: a lot of TV shows, and he produced for a
Speaker 3: thing for Crooked, so we enjoy each other's company. And
Speaker 3: then I got out here. I moved downtown because that's
Speaker 3: what everyone in LA tells you to do when you
Speaker 3: come from New York.
Speaker 2: And the first week.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is actually too much for me.
Speaker 5: But why there's a fire escape you love? Don't you like.
Speaker 3: Living around cars? I'm like, yeah, but I guess like
Speaker 3: it was. I described it as so the building I
Speaker 3: lived in, it's next to this restaurant called Bestia, Like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I play super fancy like you always see
Speaker 3: like Lamborghini's part there. I never ate there, but I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is clearly like a date night spot. And the
Speaker 3: juxtaposition of like people coming out with leftovers and like
Speaker 3: homeless veterans begging for leftovers and being like snubbed, like
Speaker 3: a real snub you know. I was like, I actually
Speaker 3: can't look at this every day, Like if they're not
Speaker 3: if there's no solution that I can give, then like
Speaker 3: I feel just like devastated and I'm already a fish
Speaker 3: out of water. So I'm just like mostly using Twitter
Speaker 3: as my diary because I had no boundaries back then. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm like it's just really depressing, like what can
Speaker 3: we do? And finally my friend was like, well, I
Speaker 3: have an actually like room for this house. We're going
Speaker 3: it on. I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: move good enough to solve the problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be hard to because I feel like,
Speaker 4: and this is my opinion that in New York they
Speaker 4: would have handed over those leftovers totally.
Speaker 5: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, yeah, it's like also, you know, obviously,
Speaker 3: like the unhoused crisis is its own thing, and it's
Speaker 3: like throughout the country. But I think because the weather
Speaker 3: is nice here, there are just fewer shelters, there's like
Speaker 3: fewer things, so you end up bumping into it in
Speaker 3: a way that feels like more dire.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then in New York, you like, obviously I'm like
Speaker 3: privileged in not having to see it as much, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's something about that is just like you
Speaker 3: have to get I think, past it and recognize that
Speaker 3: this is the actual world we live in. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I at that point was like, I just got to
Speaker 3: deal with the fact that I left everything I know
Speaker 3: behind it. I have no family here, I'm doing a
Speaker 3: job that we're creating.
Speaker 2: As we go, and that that is probably the worst
Speaker 2: or the most intense like area for that. It's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, skid Row is so awful and it's so tough.
Speaker 3: It was so sad every day, Like, and I didn't
Speaker 3: have a car here at first, so I would like, we.
Speaker 5: Found you a new apartment that.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm like, don't you don't knock, you just go
Speaker 3: straight in. Yeah, And I guess, like long story long,
Speaker 3: not to make it depressing, but I think that having
Speaker 3: distance from it helped me like actually be able to
Speaker 3: care about it in a way that like I feel
Speaker 3: like I can be active and Yeah, it's like when
Speaker 3: you're on top of it, it's just like, you know,
Speaker 3: I think you're just shocked all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, it's you know, it's it's bad. Skid Row
Speaker 2: is the first time I saw that, I was just like,
Speaker 2: because my mom was a psychiatric nurse and so all
Speaker 2: through the eighties when Reagan passed all his laws and
Speaker 2: shut all the mental hospitals, She's like, this is going
Speaker 2: to create this environment, and like basically was this predictor
Speaker 2: of it that as I see it, and especially these days,
Speaker 2: it's it's just wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing, the staggering thing when I moved here
Speaker 4: and I was shocked by so many things I saw. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it is, but the skid row thing isn't actual. It's
Speaker 4: like if we zoom in on a map, it's just oh,
Speaker 4: it's a.
Speaker 5: Part of town. Yeah yeah, it's just a permanent it
Speaker 5: was in the Thomas Guide. Yeah, like it forever.
Speaker 4: It's just we accept it as that's just an area.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's not find a solution. It's already on the map.
Speaker 5: We'd have to change our maps.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's just like it's such a big problem, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: so what if like all these billionaires who told us
Speaker 3: to like kick rocks and starve this summer during the strike.
Speaker 2: All just gave some of their money.
Speaker 3: Not all of them just paid their taxes, right, just
Speaker 3: pay a fair amount of taxes. I wouldn't be mad
Speaker 3: at that.
Speaker 2: There's some state and I want to say it's Massachusetts
Speaker 2: where they passed a law and billionaires were required to
Speaker 2: pay their taxes. Like there's and and I'm almost positive
Speaker 2: this is real. It's I was like drinking you last
Speaker 2: solving the problem, but I swear to god, it's like
Speaker 2: it just happened very recently. And it's like all their
Speaker 2: infrastructure is now taken care of, like all these different
Speaker 2: things where and it's this entire state that did it
Speaker 2: where it's like I saw the article and I was like,
Speaker 2: this could be the beginning wave of this getting solved,
Speaker 2: because if every other states see it where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: it's not you and me, it's billionaires paying their taxes.
Speaker 5: You get still dodge your federal taxes. State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing at a time.
Speaker 5: Yeah that is okay. Let's who do we talk to?
Speaker 2: I mean Massachusetts, let's call Massachusetts ternalignment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got a giant red phone, Liz.
Speaker 3: They need to talk to the whole states.
Speaker 7: Are so I looked it up and it says for
Speaker 7: tax years beginning on on or after January first, twenty
Speaker 7: twenty three, Massachusetts taxpayers will be required to pay an
Speaker 7: additional four percent tax on that income and excess of
Speaker 7: one million dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's actually called the millionaires, not billions.
Speaker 3: Wis Now they're so furious, so I have to pay.
Speaker 2: I thought we were ganging up on those guys exactly.
Speaker 3: Maybe they like they like you. It's a bracket, like
Speaker 3: they're just out of it.
Speaker 2: It's only millionaires. Yeah, wow, I wonder if I shouldn't
Speaker 2: have done this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, when someone is reading an order off of
Speaker 4: a file on their phone, you know it's for an
Speaker 4: entire floor of a building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's like someone.
Speaker 5: Okay, no, that's seventeen of those.
Speaker 3: I can't even see your phone from here, but I'm
Speaker 3: imagining it being Instagram at schoolies.
Speaker 2: Do you see this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you need me to pull up?
Speaker 2: Can you can I get the new one of these?
Speaker 5: She's describing a video.
Speaker 6: Now, if you can imagine, did you see the bear
Speaker 6: chase the girl?
Speaker 4: Actually, this raccoon got on the swimming dog's back. You're
Speaker 4: not gonna believe it.
Speaker 5: I'll show it to you in.
Speaker 3: A moment, like, can we just have like a coffee,
Speaker 3: like any coffee. I'm not even specific anymore.
Speaker 2: Really, I'm trying to think of what other movies did
Speaker 2: get nominated.
Speaker 3: Four Things got a bunch, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: They heard it was good.
Speaker 4: It was another movie that I was thinking about, and
Speaker 4: still i'm thinking about. Yeah, I've had really good track
Speaker 4: record lately, those being the last two movies I've seen
Speaker 4: in the theater.
Speaker 3: Because behind us, I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but.
Speaker 2: See, I don't see.
Speaker 4: We were just talking about that runway walk. She's upset,
Speaker 4: she has good posture, she is selling clothes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her Instagram's going code worries.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's take it again.
Speaker 3: Exactly and back to one and you're at the drive
Speaker 3: through sign.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the ultimate test, where like if if
Speaker 2: it was back in the day where I was still
Speaker 2: trying to quote unquote do like acting things, and so
Speaker 2: once I do that, I'd be like absolutely not where
Speaker 2: it's like that's a sign you shouldn't be in this
Speaker 2: in this part of the right.
Speaker 4: I know That's how I felt when I first moved
Speaker 4: here and I've got my first ever head shots, and
Speaker 4: she wanted to take them outdoors if we were like
Speaker 4: at a freeway underpass, and I was so uncomfortable that
Speaker 4: I realized in that moment I probably didn't have a
Speaker 4: future in act. Yes, I'm very self conscious about people
Speaker 4: can see me right now, fake smiling.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I should probably under the open back to Montana.
Speaker 3: I think my out is always running. When I see
Speaker 3: somebody running really hard in a movie or a TV show,
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that had to be me. I just
Speaker 3: don't think they'd be like, we got it. We didn't
Speaker 3: get it this time. I'm like, I think you did.
Speaker 3: I think we all got it. I don't like I
Speaker 3: think I'm only self conscious when people see me running.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rest of the time, I'm fine. I'm most
Speaker 2: the exertion or the form both.
Speaker 3: Okay, Like I'm I'm deeply out of shape, had asthma
Speaker 3: forever in a day, and just like never. I mean,
Speaker 3: I just had foot surgery in the summer, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Not even that that.
Speaker 3: Before that, I was like killing and running. I just like,
Speaker 3: I feel like I've always been on a downward trajectory.
Speaker 2: Of getting away from running. Always trying to just distance yourself,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I do think it probably looks really silly.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it. I refuse to like have a
Speaker 2: mirror near any workout of them.
Speaker 5: It's funny.
Speaker 4: As my dad gets older, he's been reminding me lately
Speaker 4: that I always looked funny when I ran, and I
Speaker 4: didn't realize that. I always thought I was fast, and
Speaker 4: he's like, yeah, you get little like you get little
Speaker 4: Tom Cruise arms when you run. I'm like, wait, I
Speaker 4: don't know what that means. And then so then of
Speaker 4: course it was Tom Cruise running footage and yeah little yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you stay.
Speaker 5: In one position.
Speaker 2: Apparently that's direct.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like if I was in that position to
Speaker 2: have to do it, I would just literally figure out
Speaker 2: like something to get underneath or like It's like running
Speaker 2: isn't ever a thing I will do unless something really
Speaker 2: crazy happen.
Speaker 3: Right, if I'm being chased by t X, let it take. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the difference. I don't think I'm out running it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, that's why I run in that style,
Speaker 4: because I am prepared to run away from a t Rex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I do my.
Speaker 5: Jurassic Stride as I call it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just hope someone large and faster than me
Speaker 3: will pick me up. And if it doesn't happen, which
Speaker 3: it never has, I'm prepared for that eventuality as well.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: I was blessed with a note from a doctor basically
Speaker 4: who told me not to run again. That's why it
Speaker 4: was like, you have to swim, you have to learn
Speaker 4: to swim. And now I swim. I like it, and
Speaker 4: no one how bad my.
Speaker 5: Swim style is.
Speaker 2: Do you have the water?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it really helps your motor he chops through. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're like little runners.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I at this point, I think this woman is
Speaker 2: breaking up with the person that's taking the order, and I.
Speaker 3: Just like, well, are there people behind us? So we're
Speaker 3: trapped either way.
Speaker 4: I want to yell, are you on the phone with
Speaker 4: triple ag exactly?
Speaker 3: If you broke down, at least put it in neutrals
Speaker 3: we can push.
Speaker 2: That would be well. That happened to my sister and
Speaker 2: I once in the early nineties when we were we
Speaker 2: both went to college and Sacramento, and she and I
Speaker 2: were driving, and we were driving my dad's It was
Speaker 2: it was like a mini truck. It's really yanky and
Speaker 2: in the Burger king drive through. The truck broke down
Speaker 2: and we couldn't move and it was so high pressure
Speaker 2: and so hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing. She was crying
Speaker 2: so hard. It was like and there was nothing we
Speaker 2: could do. It was like we had to wait for
Speaker 2: like they had to close the drive through, and then
Speaker 2: a car, a toe truck came and towed us out.
Speaker 2: It was horrible.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that gives me anxiety just thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like, yeah, all of my anxiety
Speaker 3: centers around being in the way kind of like I
Speaker 3: went to a drive in.
Speaker 2: This was like forever going in like I guess.
Speaker 3: Probably twenty twenty covid era and my battery died in
Speaker 3: my car because like the audio was coming through like
Speaker 3: the radio, right. I had to jump me, but I
Speaker 3: was like blocking the exit. So for like forty minutes
Speaker 3: after the movie was over, people were just honking and
Speaker 3: I don't know what I can do you And then
Speaker 3: the guy who worked there came and jumped me, and
Speaker 3: that was, you know, nice of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god.
Speaker 4: O Kayla, I remember your when you were exposing the BuzzFeed?
Speaker 5: Is there a better word than viral? That means viral.
Speaker 3: Really, I guess it was. It was a moment on
Speaker 3: the internet. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Was it a kind of a moment that started things
Speaker 4: for you? Or was it you know, is that just
Speaker 4: I mean, like my.
Speaker 3: Mind, you know, I wish that it had started anything.
Speaker 3: I think it's wait, can you tell me what?
Speaker 2: Totally sorry.
Speaker 3: So I started my career on YouTube in like two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven. I made a bunch of videos before
Speaker 3: anybody made money on YouTube, and then I started making
Speaker 3: money on YouTube, and then you know, everything got kind
Speaker 3: of fun on the Internet, and there are lots of
Speaker 3: independent creators making videos. And then one day BuzzFeed decided
Speaker 3: to have a video arm and you know, to their credit,
Speaker 3: I think that they hired a lot of creative people,
Speaker 3: but their mandate was, like, you know, for zero dollars
Speaker 3: they're basically getting paid. They needed to produce eight videos
Speaker 3: per day per person who worked there.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: So it's just interns that are scared that.
Speaker 3: They're totally totally and so like, you know, you have
Speaker 3: the people who sort of have their own series and
Speaker 3: they're clearly writing it. But then you have people who
Speaker 3: are like just scouring the internet for things to copy
Speaker 3: and they got away with it for a really long time,
Speaker 3: and I think it was just sort of like an
Speaker 3: open secret, like people kind of knew like, well, you know, no,
Speaker 3: there's no real regulation for the Internet. Like and I
Speaker 3: also think that like it was a time specifically in
Speaker 3: media where like millennials were so young but so like
Speaker 3: native to the Internet that like they understood plagiarism online
Speaker 3: more than like I think the general public did. Like
Speaker 3: they were like, why can't multiple people do it.
Speaker 4: Or specifically joke sest right like that right during that
Speaker 4: time two thousand and fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like twenty fifteen, a lot of.
Speaker 4: Like internet comedians were getting exposed for just stealing from
Speaker 4: stand ups or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like people's educations.
Speaker 5: I loved that it was happening.
Speaker 4: That's why I it seemed like a very justicey yes, fully.
Speaker 3: And so the cliff knows are basically I kind of
Speaker 3: ignored it until I couldn't ignore it anymore. They ripped
Speaker 3: off one of my videos, and like not even one
Speaker 3: of my best videos, but like shot for shot, the
Speaker 3: thumbnail was identical, and like the truth is people sent
Speaker 3: it to me. I didn't subscribe to crass Feed because
Speaker 3: I was like I don't really I'm not into this
Speaker 3: kind of like bottom of the barrel content whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I basically was like, is anyone ever gonna stop
Speaker 3: them from doing this? So I made a petition. It
Speaker 3: was called Stop buzz Thieves, and like basically they started
Speaker 3: losing advertisers, and so Jonah Peretti, who owned BuzzFeed at
Speaker 3: the time, wrote a Medium article to be like, she's crazy,
Speaker 3: I've never still inn anything. We were actually like ripping
Speaker 3: ourselves off. We were ripping anybody off. And then he
Speaker 3: like used clips from a movie that was like, it's
Speaker 3: actually more like this, and I'm like, no, it's not.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what my script was.
Speaker 5: I think I saw that too. I was glued to this.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it was so it was like it was
Speaker 3: kind of this big thing, but like, it's funny you
Speaker 3: bring it up, because I don't really think about it
Speaker 3: that often. Like the one thing I do think about
Speaker 3: is like BuzzFeed and how specifically the video wing like
Speaker 3: died because they couldn't keep ripping it off. You know,
Speaker 3: Like the Internet became so much bigger year after year
Speaker 3: and there were so many more people creating stuff that
Speaker 3: was like, well, why would you go specifically to books
Speaker 3: a video about like fifteen things you feel when you're tall,
Speaker 3: like whatever, garments. Yes, And it's like, this is what
Speaker 3: a I should be writing, like let us.
Speaker 2: Write write this crap.
Speaker 3: But I thought about it recently because I'm I don't know,
Speaker 3: I think everybody's career is kind of weird in entertainment
Speaker 3: right now. But I'm like, man, one person who was
Speaker 3: really mean to me and I'm just gonna name names
Speaker 3: because why not does really mean to me about it
Speaker 3: on Twitter was Quinta Brunson.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And I was in the hospital when I first posted
Speaker 3: this thing. I like, had these benign liver tumors. They
Speaker 3: were kind of like a sudden thing, and so I
Speaker 3: was like throwing blood cloths literally overnight in the hospital.
Speaker 3: And I see that she's like subtweeting me with other
Speaker 3: BuzzFeed people saying I'm not funny, saying I'm just bitter.
Speaker 2: Like all this stuff.
Speaker 3: And I remember I wrote back to her, I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: I need you to know I've always thought you were funny.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not trying to like shade any work you've done.
Speaker 3: I just think it's wrong to steal from people. And
Speaker 3: she's had this huge career, and it's like I never
Speaker 3: had a doubt that she would have it. But it
Speaker 3: is always funny when it's like wow, like you clearly
Speaker 3: didn't get it back then. Yeah, And like I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, am I being punished because I stood up
Speaker 3: for independent creators?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like is it always going to be this like moment
Speaker 3: where big media corporations are like, well, you know, she
Speaker 3: she did go to bat for her fellow creators, right.
Speaker 4: It's actually that is why all of a sudden we
Speaker 4: everyone knew about Joe Rogan.
Speaker 5: I'm famous for outing a joke safe babe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like for some reason that like amplified it.
Speaker 3: I guess you know, white man, black woman. Why. But
Speaker 3: it is like it's very strange because like even people
Speaker 3: who worked there were like admitting it. Oh wow really yeah,
Speaker 3: like the young people who I mean they ended up
Speaker 3: quitting their jobs with their like I'm not getting paid
Speaker 3: enough to like have this heat on me, but yeah,
Speaker 3: like what do you think we're doing?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: The mandate to do eight videos a day is crazy,
Speaker 3: like like id eight shoot and produce like put out.
Speaker 3: Of course they were gonna be stealing, and it's like,
Speaker 3: why fight it? Why be petty about it? And I think, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm in my thirties. I'm old enough to
Speaker 3: like not be like have some big chip on my
Speaker 3: shoulder about it. But at the time, I was just like,
Speaker 3: don't you want to have solidarity with other people who
Speaker 3: are like making their way the same way as you, Like,
Speaker 3: wouldn't you feel worse off if like some other big
Speaker 3: companies started ripping you off?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, and it's kind of like saying you have joined
Speaker 2: the side where you're not gonna have a good idea,
Speaker 2: so you'd as well do it this way and just
Speaker 2: be getting paid in making stuff. And I think that's
Speaker 2: the piece that like, and maybe that's the piece where
Speaker 2: coint of Brunson felt like maybe it hit her where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, you're too good to be doing that,
Speaker 2: but you don't think so, right, And that's you know, and.
Speaker 3: Also like you know, like I think it just reflected
Speaker 3: on her work even when she wasn't ripping things off,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, no, like I understand why that
Speaker 3: would be a pain point, but like, don't shoot the
Speaker 3: messenger girl.
Speaker 2: Well, and also it's weird because did you have to
Speaker 2: do stand up comedy here?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think there's like a taught or learned
Speaker 2: ethic in stand up where it's like, no one's gonna
Speaker 2: think you're funny or like invite you to do their
Speaker 2: shows if you're just ripping other people off because it
Speaker 2: just means you don't know how to do it. You
Speaker 2: just can't do it. It's like that's cheating and there's
Speaker 2: no point.
Speaker 3: In shooting and someone's gonna figure it out at some point.
Speaker 3: You cannot make a career out of just being a
Speaker 3: joke thief, right.
Speaker 4: And I did notice in the years of doing stand
Speaker 4: up more and more the realization that the general public
Speaker 4: doesn't really care. They just don't know where you get
Speaker 4: the jokes from. And I'm like, wait, you're supposed to
Speaker 4: do we care so much, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or it's not that they don't care as much as
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I had my laugh, and that is
Speaker 2: the person I thought gave it to me. And if
Speaker 2: you're going to show up who I don't know, Like
Speaker 2: that made me like that person. So if you're going
Speaker 2: to show up and be like incorrect, I have no
Speaker 2: reason to like you. Yeah, Like it's almost like the
Speaker 2: expectation is the accusers or the people who are calling
Speaker 2: it out have to do it in a hilarious way
Speaker 2: so that then they somehow do it again.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It's like it just adds a bunch of pressure to it.
Speaker 3: But like, ultimately what I've come to is like I
Speaker 3: have no ill will towards this person. I think that
Speaker 3: she was just young and this was like the first
Speaker 3: big company to put her on, and I think that,
Speaker 3: like it is scary when you know you don't have
Speaker 3: a ton of experience and you're not really relying on
Speaker 3: like just yourself, you know, like it's like busf we'd had.
Speaker 2: To succeed ye for her to keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that like I would maybe be
Speaker 3: like defensive and like I'm so old now and like
Speaker 3: live through so many unionizing efforts that I'm like I'm
Speaker 3: never going to bed for yes, But like at that time,
Speaker 3: of course, if you don't, you know, recognize what's happening,
Speaker 3: because it's also not like she was getting the money
Speaker 3: from it, you know, yeah, so he can get rich.
Speaker 2: Guys, Thank you so much, guys, we made it.
Speaker 3: And also like thank you again for being so flexible
Speaker 3: with the recording.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no problem, disaster person.
Speaker 3: But oh, you you had COVID, right, No, So I've
Speaker 3: never had COVID.
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird?
Speaker 3: I did feel sick, but I've never tested positive and
Speaker 3: I've tested consistently, and I'm like starting to think I'm
Speaker 3: a superhero.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I thought that for a long time too, and then
Speaker 4: I just casually got it one day.
Speaker 3: I think I will at some point. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: truth is like, it's it's just around the corner.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's different than it was a few years ago.
Speaker 5: I truly believe the potency of the sickness because much better, lighter.
Speaker 2: But I would be so I would feel so proud
Speaker 2: if I'd ever had COVID.
Speaker 3: Well see, there's the thing. You think that and then
Speaker 3: you say it out loud of people are like, oh,
Speaker 3: you want to cook it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess not. You're right, I'm kind of losing.
Speaker 3: I don't go home for the holidays, so I deserve
Speaker 3: this very careful truth. I've like, I guess I've been
Speaker 3: pretty lucky to be able to like stay home so much.
Speaker 2: But also maybe you have the like the blood serum
Speaker 2: that keeps you from getting it beat.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It's funny, like, so my doctors are ucl IT and
Speaker 3: like they asked at one point, like if you ever
Speaker 3: tested positive. So they start sending me these like blood
Speaker 3: vile things in the mail. They're like, well, well says you
Speaker 3: have it like one of your sending I'm like no,
Speaker 3: because you know how you do Black women when it's
Speaker 3: like medical stuff. Right, I'm gonna go missing one day.
Speaker 3: You gotta be blood letting me and a basement like
Speaker 3: this is the real vax.
Speaker 2: You're yes, you're in your system, will cure cancer, but
Speaker 2: we'll never see you again, right, You'll be like.
Speaker 3: That's so strange because like one day she was talking
Speaker 3: about it and then just like never again. And her
Speaker 3: dog just like had to eat the crumbs from his
Speaker 3: treets off the ground until someone hurt him.
Speaker 2: Barking, wait, this is a milk?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Way is this is this? Does it tastes like chocolate? No?
Speaker 2: And I'm my gum on the top of gross, Let
Speaker 2: me change you lid, Let me chreag you list. I'll
Speaker 2: change you lids. I'll trade you live that is.
Speaker 3: As you went like that, I was like, what is
Speaker 3: that on the top of this It's opened Okay, I
Speaker 3: like that announced like I'm this card chocolate. Okay, it's
Speaker 3: maybe because it was only one pump, the lightest version.
Speaker 3: Thank you for being so understanding again.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: As I never I need you to understand me as
Speaker 3: a person. I'm not the kind of person who puts
Speaker 3: gum on the lids of things like it is actually
Speaker 3: the grossest thing on earth. So the fact that I
Speaker 3: did it and then it almost became like a fiasco,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2: How this person. The good is is that I know
Speaker 2: that your your germs are no, they're not there right
Speaker 2: in anything.
Speaker 3: If you just take us it after me.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah that's not good. This is It's
Speaker 2: the best I've ever had.
Speaker 4: And with every step you're further from ever getting COVID
Speaker 4: too good.
Speaker 3: Order choice too like one pump. I really didn't even notice.
Speaker 3: It isn't so I'm like suggest someone has got to
Speaker 3: put her little on tighter.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's about to pop off. No, look
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no it is.
Speaker 4: God, I gotta it's good. Looks like a cowboy hat.
Speaker 2: I can do it.
Speaker 3: I have mine in the.
Speaker 5: Yeah right.
Speaker 3: I love when they just kind of block the traffic
Speaker 3: and then look at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, they're like, just give in to my plan.
Speaker 2: I dare you're doing?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Were you all from La No?
Speaker 4: Originally, it feels like I've been here long enough now
Speaker 4: to where I've just realized this is my home.
Speaker 5: One years for me to realize it. Yes, I love
Speaker 5: that for you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still figuring it out. I moved right
Speaker 3: before COVID, so I'm like, I don't know I've moved
Speaker 3: here today.
Speaker 2: Yeah for real, no time has passed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, still young, right, Yeah, I felt that way
Speaker 4: really for fifteen years, and I'm finally like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I totally live here and I.
Speaker 3: Know where things are.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, and I when I visit home now, I say, oh,
Speaker 4: I got to go back home.
Speaker 5: I just started calling this home.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's so sweet.
Speaker 2: So where were you from before this?
Speaker 4: I grew up in Montana, but started doing stand up
Speaker 4: in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2: Wonderful.
Speaker 3: That's a great stand up city.
Speaker 5: Yeah it was and still is. Yes, I assume it's
Speaker 5: still is.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm like, I guess I haven't been back
Speaker 3: in a minute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just changed so much in so many different ways.
Speaker 5: You know, because I selled by Southwest.
Speaker 2: But it's.
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm.
Speaker 2: Here now, Daron.
Speaker 3: How about you?
Speaker 2: Where are you from? I'm from northern California. I'm from
Speaker 2: a town called Petaluma. Oh but I've lived here since
Speaker 2: ninety four. Oh amazing, So you're you're here, I'm I've
Speaker 2: been here. I've lived like for work. I got to
Speaker 2: move to New York for one year one time, in
Speaker 2: Chicago one year for one time. So I'm happy reading that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it just this, this is the place. And it's
Speaker 2: funny because like, you know, Northern California kind of hates
Speaker 2: Southern California, and Southern California doesn't not care about Northern
Speaker 2: California except for.
Speaker 3: Like wine country.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly, like get on that wine train. So it
Speaker 2: was very intimidating to move down and then I was
Speaker 2: like what have I done? This is insane? And then
Speaker 2: after a while I was like, who cares, nothing matters
Speaker 2: down here. It's great. Yeah I feel that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like still trying to shake bringing up New York
Speaker 3: all the time because still it's like that really was
Speaker 3: home for me. I'm from Kentucky, so yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: like but I am the moment I got to New York,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm supposed to be here.
Speaker 2: New York is so awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fun, But it's like I think too, like the
Speaker 3: older I get, the more I realize, like, you know,
Speaker 3: home is.
Speaker 2: What you make it.
Speaker 3: And also like I was there in my twenties when
Speaker 3: my career started, so of course it's like in my mind,
Speaker 3: Mecca like it's everything. Yeah, and I'm like, well, actually
Speaker 3: it's it's just kind of where you happen to be
Speaker 3: when everything worked out.
Speaker 4: Do you find when you're Because every time I visit
Speaker 4: New York, I feel motivated. There's just so much happening
Speaker 4: and everyone it's moving. And then I come back here
Speaker 4: and I'm like I get all relaxed.
Speaker 3: Yeah you like enjoy your life.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well yeah that's one way I looking at it.
Speaker 4: But also I just I feel like I wish I
Speaker 4: had moved there when I left Austin, just because of
Speaker 4: how busy I would have been.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I definitely feel that, like when I
Speaker 3: go back. I I also just like it's I mean,
Speaker 3: I live in k Town, so it's like pretty walkable,
Speaker 3: I guess, but like I just used to walk so
Speaker 3: much so when I go back, I like, no matter
Speaker 3: where I'm staying, I have to like walk the neighbor
Speaker 3: figure out what the places are. I just feel more
Speaker 3: a part of it than like right in La, I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm an ornament on a Christmas tree. I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm in it.
Speaker 2: Let's see if anybody walks up there. I have no one's.
Speaker 3: Favorite ornament, and I'm not especially shiny this year.
Speaker 2: I'm on the tree. You never know. Those lights could
Speaker 2: switch around exactly any.
Speaker 4: Point, right if they don't put me in the corner
Speaker 4: so that yeah, I'm the behind tree part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't want to be that part of.
Speaker 2: The tree and you want to catch on fire.
Speaker 3: You're not want to write hard to know what's right anymore.
Speaker 2: It's that just reminds me of my sister is a
Speaker 2: big Christmas tree person and like very like gets it early,
Speaker 2: very passionate about it. She's the one that has all
Speaker 2: the like family ornaments and things from our childhood. And
Speaker 2: she got one this year. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was if it was a bad pick or I
Speaker 2: don't we can't figure it out, but she goes, I
Speaker 2: brought it home. It was dead two days later, it's
Speaker 2: never happened. And so she was like super mad at
Speaker 2: her tree this year, where I was like, I rely
Speaker 2: on you to like decorate, doing the sings of relative
Speaker 2: if you're not doing it, and no one's like laterally
Speaker 2: mad at her tree the whole.
Speaker 3: At some point, Yeah, they gave her the lemon tree.
Speaker 3: They're like, no, this one's good. Yeah, well it just
Speaker 3: looks tired. Yeah, it's different when it's in your house.
Speaker 3: And then it just died.
Speaker 2: Just there was no smell, there was it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: It was it was not what she wanted.
Speaker 3: I'm writing I'm going to write a children's book called
Speaker 3: the Worst Christmas Tree, and it's going to be about
Speaker 3: the sad tree that died, but the family rallied around
Speaker 3: it and the pine needles being everywhere somehow was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I'm going to give that book to
Speaker 2: my sister and be like, this is what you need
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 4: Doing when when stuff gets tough and she looks in
Speaker 4: it and you you.
Speaker 3: Get the way. Yeah, so you're catching in on my.
Speaker 2: My tragedy to my sister Laura, who couldn't get it
Speaker 2: done holiday at you didn't see the beauty and the man.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm also the festive family member. I just like
Speaker 3: to decorate. I don't think that I'm like super Christmasy
Speaker 3: because this year I had a hard time watching the movies,
Speaker 3: Like it almost felt like it was too soon again, Yeah,
Speaker 3: them were far enough in my memory and to be
Speaker 3: like I'm desperate to see Chevy Chase, like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it just wasn't there. So like every time a movie
Speaker 3: would come away, I'm just gonna play a video game
Speaker 3: related watch TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: This year, the uh, the enjoyment I had with A
Speaker 4: I guess it was I had never watched It's a
Speaker 4: Wonderful Life not on a VHS. Yeah, and never had
Speaker 4: I watched it in color with also subtitles. There was
Speaker 4: so many throwaway lines that you miss. Yes, funny people
Speaker 4: were funny in that I laughed all the way through
Speaker 4: this movie because all these extras were throwing out zingers
Speaker 4: nice and the old guys at the bank, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: guys in the background.
Speaker 5: People were Uh.
Speaker 4: It's just everything was a was, everything said was account
Speaker 4: of for in a way that I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: It's about about capitalism and taking advantage of of you know,
Speaker 4: It's about the housing crisis.
Speaker 5: It's it's a precursor to all that. It's really good.
Speaker 2: I should see. I mean I think it is. People
Speaker 2: say it's like the movie and it's it's weird.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. It was just I guess, you know,
Speaker 3: in the nineties, you just have the VHSS you had, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3: Like an example of that is I never saw the
Speaker 3: original It's Christmas Time Charlie Brown. I had It's Christmas
Speaker 3: Time Again the sequel, and nobody.
Speaker 5: Knows about it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's a great movie.
Speaker 4: It's like dark and he's depressed. It announces his depression right.
Speaker 3: When I was watching, and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is what the first one's about. I mean the second one,
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, Charlie Brown's can always depressed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he's a real downer.
Speaker 4: I just didn't know he used the word I'm depressed.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize he actually announced.
Speaker 3: Then they used to just be like, hey the condition.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry kids, and he Yeah.
Speaker 3: The plot of that one is they're in a I
Speaker 3: guess a church play and his sister Sally has one
Speaker 3: line and it's hark and she just can't remember it,
Speaker 3: and so she says Hockey Puck, and it's just excellent.
Speaker 3: And literally no one who didn't have that VHS gave
Speaker 3: a shit.
Speaker 2: You know the town I'm from, well, the next the
Speaker 2: big town north of US, Santa Rosa, is where Charles
Speaker 2: Schultz was from, and so there's like a Charles Schultz
Speaker 2: ice skating rink. And there's a small airport that if
Speaker 2: I plan far enough ahead so that I don't have
Speaker 2: to pay like three hundred dollars, I sometimes will fly
Speaker 2: home for a bank to the Santa Rosa airport, which
Speaker 2: is like a dream because it's like tiny airport. Tiny airport. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And when you get off the plane, you walk down,
Speaker 2: Oh there's no light down there is there? Keep doing this, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like.
Speaker 2: But when you get off the plane and you're walking
Speaker 2: out of the airport, there's just a mural of all
Speaker 2: the Peanuts kids walking with you, rolling, taking their roller
Speaker 2: bags and stuff. And every time it gets me where,
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this just a corny thing that people
Speaker 2: from around here like, I love the Peanuts gang so much?
Speaker 2: They're like, they mean the world's mate.
Speaker 5: But isn't Saint Paul minute?
Speaker 4: Where is it in Minnesota where it's Peanuts everywhere there
Speaker 4: as well statues.
Speaker 2: I wonder maybe he was born there and then he
Speaker 2: moved to Santa Rose. Okay, that could have been one
Speaker 2: of those situations.
Speaker 5: I could watch because it's usually on a loop.
Speaker 4: Anyway, The Peanuts kids dancing, Oh yeah, nothing cheers me
Speaker 4: up more because they got some bizarre, hilarious moves.
Speaker 5: The best I'm all about Peanuts.
Speaker 3: I always like trying to point one out and then
Speaker 3: like do it, yeah, and the one honestly pretty difficult.
Speaker 3: I always like the one who's like the shoulders are
Speaker 3: kind of down and the hands are pointing, they're like up,
Speaker 3: like your palms are up in the air, but not
Speaker 3: the normal way, and then like your knees.
Speaker 2: Kind of bounce in. You're like, what is that?
Speaker 3: Like that's the opposite of dancing, Like it's the least
Speaker 3: instinctual dance movie.
Speaker 5: You've ever seen, dead person trying.
Speaker 3: To Like that kid really committed, and I can see
Speaker 3: it in my mind.
Speaker 2: I like the girl who she has a little black
Speaker 2: bob in a blue dress and she's just just yanking
Speaker 2: her head from side. Lucy. Yeah, it's a it's like
Speaker 2: a Lucy look alike. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's always like the ones who are like kind of
Speaker 3: different colorations.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's like stringy hair.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she dances like Ellie Sheety and Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: Yeah if everyone remembers that specific oh totally, she was gofy.
Speaker 2: That girl was a young go you could tell.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then the other kidder's dance move was just standing
Speaker 4: in a cloud of his own dirt.
Speaker 5: I know I would set myself up.
Speaker 3: That's what I do most, thank you, of course, setting
Speaker 3: me up to look like I've seen a.
Speaker 2: The great victory of No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like Akila is in intellectual you know, she
Speaker 3: not only does she read allegedly, but she has seen
Speaker 3: the best cartoons.
Speaker 5: I yeah, you have done absolutely everything.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 4: It is very impressive because I've always just focused on
Speaker 4: doing stand up.
Speaker 3: But I envy that. I think that, like I'm starting
Speaker 3: to realize like it's more and more common to be
Speaker 3: a person who has to do everything just because like
Speaker 3: this industry is like so unstable, yeah, be able to
Speaker 3: pivot so hard. But it's like if I had just
Speaker 3: committed to getting good at it. But I think that
Speaker 3: I just what it was was like like I got
Speaker 3: this book deal and I was like, well, I can't
Speaker 3: write stand up and write a book. And then it
Speaker 3: turned out it took me five years to write book anyway,
Speaker 3: so I can't write anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the times I've had a job writing or I
Speaker 4: realized how much I was missing, yeah, performing on stage,
Speaker 4: that part of stand up.
Speaker 3: And so it's like I appreciate stand up so much still,
Speaker 3: Like I try to watch most of the new specials,
Speaker 3: and I think, like I I just really admire people
Speaker 3: who like committed to it and actually like got good
Speaker 3: and like have jokes that people do remember. Because man,
Speaker 3: I feel like, especially making YouTube videos, like it's funny
Speaker 3: to have that whole BuzzFeed conversation and it's like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure people remember one or two of my videos.
Speaker 3: I made hundreds, Yes, yeah, it's and that's just.
Speaker 2: Par for the course. Like I remembered that one exactly.
Speaker 5: And my whole career I've been like, ah, should I
Speaker 5: do this YouTube thing?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 4: All in all indicators were pointing to me making videos
Speaker 4: online and I was always intimidated by it.
Speaker 3: So like I also was job doing that, well, thank you,
Speaker 3: And I think, like, you know, your interests pivots. So
Speaker 3: it's like the videos that I watch now are not
Speaker 3: like I feel like sketch comedy doesn't exist on the
Speaker 3: internet anymore. Like it's just too expensive, which just funny
Speaker 3: because the cheapest thing you can make, but like it's
Speaker 3: expensive if you're doing it yourself. And so, like I
Speaker 3: watch a lot of videos of like women in Japan
Speaker 3: who their faces never on camera, and they're mostly just
Speaker 3: like this is my five am morning routine, and it's
Speaker 3: just like captioned at the bottom and there's a cat
Speaker 3: and then they're like cooking, and I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't live my life like that. My house is a mess,
Speaker 3: but like the music is soothing and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: my eyes can relax looking at her clean house. Yes,
Speaker 3: architectural digest, but make it move like it's so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like I guess that's what I would do now if
Speaker 3: it's funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my best entertainment is DIY house stuff. Why am
Speaker 4: I getting so into that? I have no projects coming up?
Speaker 2: It's satisfying. It's so fun and you don't have to
Speaker 2: do anything, but someone else is doing it. You're getting
Speaker 2: the mirrorer on satisfaction of like, oh you just took
Speaker 2: out that old those old stairs and put in these
Speaker 2: new stairs. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love I'll shout out one of
Speaker 3: my favorite it's a channel called Never Too Small. I
Speaker 3: think it's like gott to be owned by somebody, but
Speaker 3: because they put out videos like every day, but they're
Speaker 3: these like really well edited, like high quality videos international
Speaker 3: where they like go to houses that are like small,
Speaker 3: and you see the way people like come up with
Speaker 3: storage things and whatever and like segment their houses so
Speaker 3: it like looks different and so like I just feel
Speaker 3: like I'm always not really taking literal notes, but I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's a good idea. Yes, Like we all need just
Speaker 3: a drawer of tension rods because at any point she
Speaker 3: may be able to cobble together or some.
Speaker 2: Rock that's important I would watch.
Speaker 3: Like that would be what's the opposite of like death row,
Speaker 3: Like what's an example of a place where I could
Speaker 3: go and just like get to watch something and it'd
Speaker 3: be good and stuff like counting down the days to
Speaker 3: my death whatever that is, you know, exactly an old
Speaker 3: folk time. I can just like beg my way in.
Speaker 3: I would spend the rest of my days just watching
Speaker 3: people do things with tension rods.
Speaker 2: I enjoy the people that show you themselves re stalking
Speaker 2: their insane kitchens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, wow, you always have that many snacks
Speaker 3: on him, Like, I don't think that I'm alive if
Speaker 3: I'm not, Like, why don't I have chips? Like yeah,
Speaker 3: I just have to be lamenting the lack of snacks
Speaker 3: I don't have.
Speaker 2: Then. Also, my parents were so anti snacks. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: We would just make ourselves toast or like you put.
Speaker 3: Like butter and sugar on it. Yeah, that's that's French toast.
Speaker 2: We're living, yes, And so watching these women, they're just like, well,
Speaker 2: here's the cheese sticks and here's the Oreo packets, where
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, these kids, ye are living.
Speaker 3: I remember I didn't have yogurt until I was at
Speaker 3: least in high school. I went to a friend's house.
Speaker 3: It was like the house with all the snacks, and
Speaker 3: I was like, mom, we had something called yogurt, Like
Speaker 3: it was crazy. So then we had like a yogurt
Speaker 3: face like instead of being the house that stocked it, it
Speaker 3: was like for a month, my mom would just go
Speaker 3: ham and cheese in the yogurt aal just like every
Speaker 3: flavor mixing food on the bottom.
Speaker 5: I can't get ham and cheese flavored yoga.
Speaker 3: I'll get past it, I bet you if you dig
Speaker 3: far enough at Kroger. It's in the far back there.
Speaker 3: It is because those sections are now just so I
Speaker 3: can't say either enormous. Everybody has a brand and yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I envy it, but it's never
Speaker 3: going to be mean, say.
Speaker 2: Your brand of yogurt.
Speaker 3: Though NUSA is here, it's got way too much sugar,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, don't tell me that.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: It's like the creamiest, most delicious. I get the honey,
Speaker 3: I get the lemon or the raspberry.
Speaker 2: Honey is my number one good.
Speaker 3: It's like on real. The first time I had it,
Speaker 3: I remember, I was like a record scratch in my life.
Speaker 2: So is this what yogurt could be?
Speaker 3: Like it's that watery clump that has to be stirred
Speaker 3: into the.
Speaker 2: Aready.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the fruit bottom and always.
Speaker 2: The like tanginess because is it.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's like New Zealand, the Australian or New Zealand.
Speaker 3: I think maybe New Zealand. Maybe this's one. NUSA is
Speaker 3: like some sort of play on definitely like Southern Globe stuff.
Speaker 3: So there their cows are different.
Speaker 2: They are because that ship is it's like a dessert.
Speaker 2: Every once while, I take it down and be like,
Speaker 2: this will be my dessert.
Speaker 3: Any draft of it, and then I'm like, okay, well
Speaker 3: I'm want to eat the rest of it, so I'll
Speaker 3: put in the freezer and now it's ice cream. That's
Speaker 3: the one I will spend the money on. Now it's
Speaker 3: not going to try to go around like eighteen lanes.
Speaker 2: I think it's happening.
Speaker 3: He's also going.
Speaker 4: You know what, I am only impressed by this determination.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 3: This guy's doing all kinds of stuff because like this
Speaker 3: gas station that we're at, I won't go away the location.
Speaker 2: I always thought it was a drug front.
Speaker 3: Like look how there's no tops to the Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is absolutely not a real thing.
Speaker 5: Pump is surrounded by police.
Speaker 3: Tape and like look how much I mean the graffiti
Speaker 3: is like there's no screen.
Speaker 2: I don't see a screen on anything, So like, how
Speaker 2: do you pay? Why are there? Right? I think they're
Speaker 2: all actors. Yeah, all of them paid actors.
Speaker 3: They're like, so the only way we're gonna be able
Speaker 3: to get this drug front to keep running, Like at
Speaker 3: around said and PM one person just like drives through
Speaker 3: and acts.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, no, officer, you can still get air in
Speaker 4: your tires here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, THATSGT.
Speaker 3: It's like it looks like a gas station isn't got enough.
Speaker 5: I don't think it was worth I applaud that man's effort.
Speaker 2: But he did it. I mean he got into the
Speaker 2: I thought he was trying to take the left, which
Speaker 2: I was like, get that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like so you're gonna go across a lambs like look.
Speaker 2: No way. But then he he did get over there.
Speaker 4: I think that that's why, that's why he wears that
Speaker 4: security hat.
Speaker 5: Paid attention to his authority. That's right, Hey, I'm security.
Speaker 5: I have to get to that.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry the security guy has to get through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah exactly. He's like, I'm doing the road. Guys
Speaker 3: need to give me some space so I can do
Speaker 3: my job securing the road. Also, this is like the
Speaker 3: narrowest street in history, so like, oh god bless for real. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I don't even know. I don't even know. It
Speaker 3: couldn't possibly be two ways, but they're like it is,
Speaker 3: and you know what, you just got to ram each
Speaker 3: other and.
Speaker 2: Make it work.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of these in Aca Park where I
Speaker 4: live that then my street. For some reason, at the
Speaker 4: double one land an airplane.
Speaker 3: I'm so jealous. I used to live in Beverly Hills
Speaker 3: and that was like the only thing I would point to.
Speaker 3: It was like, look at when I walk my dog,
Speaker 3: It's like the whole sidewalk is like forty feet wide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other dogs come.
Speaker 3: They can bark at each other and still not be touching.
Speaker 3: It's really insuring. It's like unreal. Okay, so this is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not an all way, right, you probably already discovered.
Speaker 2: That I did well. Also, this GPS took me on
Speaker 2: every possible road.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was real.
Speaker 2: Oh totally.
Speaker 3: I mean also for sure, how it is over here,
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm gonna drive to a STOPL.
Speaker 2: Just find your way through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is good. I mean I guess wherever it's
Speaker 3: not really parking.
Speaker 5: Yes, you're a You're a delight I steal your Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Know I was doing it well. I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: I felt like I already knew it because we followed
Speaker 2: each other on Twitter forever. But I yeah, for so long,
Speaker 2: but I didn't, And I'm delighted that I do. Now.
Speaker 2: The artists for We're all together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like anytime. I'm sorry I didn't have a
Speaker 3: better errand, but I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Know, it's this is what we We might ask you
Speaker 4: for an errand, but we really prefer a Leslie driving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better, it's nice, it's better for talking.
Speaker 4: I'm glad your foot is better. Yeah, I'm glad those
Speaker 4: films benin.
Speaker 3: Yes, everything is back turns out so yeah, I have
Speaker 3: no excuse to be out of shape. So we're going
Speaker 3: to check in. Is actually running, she's crying the whole time.
Speaker 3: Is moving quicker than a walk? She can move and
Speaker 3: it's great. Wow, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, You've been the best.
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