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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, July twenty eight, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: Episode number four. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: Live from the not the SWBC workstios. We are in Oxnard, California.
Speaker 1: It is day seven of training camp twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: It's presented by American Airlines. Cowboys are fourth practices in.
Speaker 1: They got nine more to go and today it gets real.
Speaker 1: They put on the pads. It's gonna get fun. How
Speaker 1: are you guys doing today? Doing great? Pads? Pads go.
Speaker 1: I mean I can't tell all huge difference. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand that they're gonna hit a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But it's been When you think about not having pads
Speaker 1: and what usual he's seen out of practice, it's been
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's been pretty unchaining already. Yeah, So you're
Speaker 1: not wrong, but I do think from a physicality standpoint,
Speaker 1: everybody gets a chance to show what they can do. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: Dogizua can't show us what he really can do in
Speaker 1: pads or bohanna or even the offensive linemen or things
Speaker 1: like that. You can get your hands on people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly I think. So far, my focus at least
Speaker 1: has been on the perimeter skill guys because you can
Speaker 1: see a lot more of them when the pads aren't on.
Speaker 1: But now we get to focus in on some of
Speaker 1: those one on one offensive line defensive line drills, and
Speaker 1: you can kind of see a little bit more of
Speaker 1: kind of how those guys are playing out in the
Speaker 1: strength of those guys and that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 1: I should be pretty interesting today. I'm gonna talk to
Speaker 1: Mike and let him know, Like, the one thing we
Speaker 1: do miss about the Jason Garrett era is the compete period. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he calls random numbers onto the grass, he used
Speaker 1: to be fun kick each other's ass. Yeah, Mike, we
Speaker 1: need that back now that we got the paths. You're
Speaker 1: gonna gonna throw that out there to him. Yeah today,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, right here at the press conference.
Speaker 1: Makes you do that makes you do that, you guys
Speaker 1: that'll be listening, that'll happen at eleven o'clock, makes you
Speaker 1: listen for mister David Hellman if he'll probably do that.
Speaker 1: If you say, hey, the old any any job, the
Speaker 1: old boss did it like this, right, you might want
Speaker 1: to consider it. He got fired. But but you know,
Speaker 1: but let's do it like this. I da want to
Speaker 1: see how that goes. Maybe not my best idea. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's go on and get to some of our observations. Um,
Speaker 1: we like to start with you guys giving some observations
Speaker 1: of things you saw in yesterday's practice. It was an
Speaker 1: extremely eventful practice, one of the more fun practices I've
Speaker 1: seen in a while. Give me some observations. What was
Speaker 1: some things you guys saw? I think, well, yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: dofense defense Uh stepped up. I mean they go out
Speaker 1: there as kicked two weeks two days ago. So it
Speaker 1: was good. I mean that's what you want, right, You
Speaker 1: don't want just one side just in the other. So
Speaker 1: it's been a good balance. I thought. I thought the
Speaker 1: defense stepped up red zone drills yesterday. I mean it
Speaker 1: was it was stuff to get in there for the offense.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought the defense did a nice job
Speaker 1: of I think the offense only scored once, or at
Speaker 1: least the first team, Yeah, in like eight attempts, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: And that is tough, especially when you know it's past.
Speaker 1: You know, like if you get the ball like first
Speaker 1: and goal in the eight and you know it's past.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's eighteen yards to do something. Now,
Speaker 1: if there could be a run to Zeke who couldn't
Speaker 1: get three four or five six yards or or Dack
Speaker 1: right exactly, changes that's a whole series and all that.
Speaker 1: So when you know it's passed, you can have a
Speaker 1: little bit more advantage. But they did a nice job.
Speaker 1: I thought of defending the end zone. Wait, I mean,
Speaker 1: Nick's right, But for me, it's just the comedy of
Speaker 1: like overreacting to one day because like literally, you know,
Speaker 1: Demante Kazy didn't have a great day a few days ago,
Speaker 1: and they bring in Malie Cooker. Everybody's like Hacklington Dicks
Speaker 1: all over again. This guy sucks. And then he had
Speaker 1: he played great yesterday. He had a pick six, he
Speaker 1: took Dak to the house. Defense was all over the
Speaker 1: place that Dak got picked off three times. So you know,
Speaker 1: training camp is all about the whole. It's not about
Speaker 1: one day or the next day. Like you can't get
Speaker 1: too high on one day, too low on the other.
Speaker 1: So defense was awesome yesterday they looked so good, and
Speaker 1: that probably means they'll get bullied today if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, just cudding the way it goes. Although the
Speaker 1: fun of it for what we do is every day
Speaker 1: we're gonna overreact, so we're gonna just go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was so great. Well, as long as we're saying
Speaker 1: it's great, I just I just laugh when people are like,
Speaker 1: looks like so and so got demoted, I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're just out here practicing, trying to find the best fits. Like,
Speaker 1: let's not freak out. Yeah. And by the way, more
Speaker 1: so in this camp than maybe any camp I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: they are moving to guys around everywhere. They got guys
Speaker 1: working with first team, second teen, third. If you're trying
Speaker 1: to make any determinations on your own just by what
Speaker 1: you see as to what you think the depth chart
Speaker 1: look like, good luck with that because it's just not
Speaker 1: it's not very apparent. Yeah, because if if if you do,
Speaker 1: then you're like, well Malik Turner starts, you know, because
Speaker 1: he jumps into the to the mix a lot, and
Speaker 1: and you know, and the same with defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: good luck with with the defense. That's the only person
Speaker 1: on defense that I'm just confident is on the first
Speaker 1: team is probably Treyvon Diggs, like and Randy Gregory. That
Speaker 1: was like, they're out there all the time with the
Speaker 1: first teams. Everything else is a jumble, you want. I
Speaker 1: was actually thinking about that exact thing this morning, and
Speaker 1: there was one guy I noticed that seems to be
Speaker 1: out there every time the first team is out there,
Speaker 1: Nevill Gallimore, defensive tackle. Yeah, which you know it might
Speaker 1: also be because they're kind of trying to figure things out.
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill isn't back, but he's the one guy that
Speaker 1: I would be like, yeah, pretty much every time first
Speaker 1: teams out there, I see Nevil Gallimore out there. Awesome
Speaker 1: that you said that, because I'm about to send William
Speaker 1: a story about Neville. So here we go. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: talked to uh Leon Lett for a little bit as
Speaker 1: he's walking by Big Cat, Big Cat yep, and we
Speaker 1: were I was just ask him about some guys you
Speaker 1: know that did well and in fact, like I saw
Speaker 1: a play yesterday that nobody else seemed to like. See.
Speaker 1: I thought, with what's his name of Bohannah just making
Speaker 1: a nice play in the open field on Tony Pollard,
Speaker 1: and I thought I saw that through a lot of
Speaker 1: the you know people, and I so I asked him
Speaker 1: because he watched the tape and he said, oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1: He said, a big boy happened to him. It was
Speaker 1: just a screen but it was just for him to
Speaker 1: get out there and then to stop Tony Pollard and
Speaker 1: just with one big Paul on him and said, Noah,
Speaker 1: a little fellow, he's just gonna stay right here. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got some he got some pretty good move to him. Um,
Speaker 1: he had a nice day. But he said the guy
Speaker 1: that's standing out to him was also diggi Zo. He said,
Speaker 1: that guy's really coming. He said, he's he's he's just
Speaker 1: like nodded like he's got something. But he also mentioned
Speaker 1: Gallimore too, but he said he really likes what he's seeing.
Speaker 1: That also, yeah, I mean right now in camp again,
Speaker 1: as Dave was saying, we can't get too overly hyped
Speaker 1: on anybody. But I do think yesterday that was a
Speaker 1: good day for for the mentality of this defense. They
Speaker 1: need those kinds of days where they feel like they're
Speaker 1: getting after the offense and they are taking control of
Speaker 1: the practice. Because if you can't do it in practice,
Speaker 1: good luck trying to do it in a game, right,
Speaker 1: And this is the time to do it for the
Speaker 1: defensive tackles because you know, Tristan Hill's still out and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be out probably for a little bit. Chauncey
Speaker 1: Golston's not practicing. Now. I know he's an end slash tackle,
Speaker 1: He's an end that will probably rush it from the inside,
Speaker 1: but still, you know, it's defensive tackles. This is a
Speaker 1: good opportunity for them to do something. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. Like the attitude of the defense set a
Speaker 1: lot to me yesterday, just the enthusiasm. Kelvin Joseph is
Speaker 1: an enthusiastic guy. Apparently we're calling this secondary airplane mode now, yea.
Speaker 1: Let me read this quote for you guys, I was
Speaker 1: actually gonna go there. Let me read this quote and
Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction to it. Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: did the rookie defensive back second round pick for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: said we're gonna fly around no fly zone. We're gonna
Speaker 1: call it airplane mode. When y'all drop this interview, tell
Speaker 1: them Cowboys defense, airplane mode. You can throw, you can't throw,
Speaker 1: no fly zone. What did you say about two minutes ago, Dave,
Speaker 1: of what you thought was gonna happen today? In practice,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get their ass kicked. Yeah. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Maybe Dax sees that quote moving and making the rounds
Speaker 1: on Twitter, like all right, but I like the confidence,
Speaker 1: do you know? Well, my grumpy, my grumpy old man
Speaker 1: reaction is like, yeah, I remember the hot boys too.
Speaker 1: Maybe we chill out for a second, but I had
Speaker 1: to drag. I'm sorry, I'm just saying, like it's stayed
Speaker 1: for a trank. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. But
Speaker 1: my fun not grumpy reaction is when I like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: airplane mode, what's he talking about? And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't have any reception? Yeah, no reception. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's clever. Turn it off, good job, good job Kelvin. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's fun. Hopefully they can keep it going. Was he
Speaker 1: locking down to anyone? He yeah, yeah, I thought he
Speaker 1: had a couple plays stick nothing, no interceptions, But I
Speaker 1: thought he had a couple of plays where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just again. Honestly, if you look at
Speaker 1: the entire secondary, I think they all played extremely well yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think you can go around and probably named three,
Speaker 1: four or five guys in the secondary alone. They had
Speaker 1: really good days yesterday. And I think he was he
Speaker 1: was okay, kazy, Maurice Kennedy and hell of the day,
Speaker 1: which I had said this last night at dinner, and
Speaker 1: sorry Maurice. I thought of him as like a C. J. Goodwin,
Speaker 1: more like he's here to play special teams and maybe
Speaker 1: not be a factor on the depth chart. Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: has a hammy, didn't practice. Maurice Kennedy was first up
Speaker 1: in the slot. He was the first guy they played.
Speaker 1: And you know, you might think maybe you moved Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown into the slot she had been doing something during Nope,
Speaker 1: it was Maurice Kennedy all the way and he played great.
Speaker 1: He had a pick and a diving PBu. He had
Speaker 1: a nice day. They had some some a lot of
Speaker 1: badded balls yesterday too, And it made me think back
Speaker 1: to the front office and how much they talked about
Speaker 1: how how they wanted to add link that's been something
Speaker 1: that was very important to them. And I actually was
Speaker 1: talking to someone yesterday and this is my own perception.
Speaker 1: I'd love to get your perceptions of it. But even
Speaker 1: the guys that have been here for the Cowboys, it
Speaker 1: seems like across the board, if you start going down
Speaker 1: the line, so many of them came back this year
Speaker 1: a lot leaner. I was mentioning Dorance Armstrong, who looks
Speaker 1: leaner to me. We've talked about I think one of
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned d Law and how much leaner he looks,
Speaker 1: and Dak looks leaner, and Zeke looks leaner, and you
Speaker 1: just go down the list. I wonder if this was
Speaker 1: a thing where not only were they going to trying
Speaker 1: to go out and get length, but they they trained
Speaker 1: their team to be leaner this year for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Maybe they thought it was something that gives them a
Speaker 1: competitive advantage. But do you guys get the sense that
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are a lot leaner this year
Speaker 1: than they've been in the past. I don't think I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time thinking about it, but now
Speaker 1: that you say it, yeah, I mean Lyle Collins. Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins another one he looks as skinny as somebody his
Speaker 1: size can look. We talked about Quentin Bohana, never Neville looks.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, so hey, I guess I hesitate because
Speaker 1: you know, every year at this time, it's like, I'm
Speaker 1: in the best shape of my life. It is gonna
Speaker 1: be the best year of my career, So I kind
Speaker 1: of guard myself against that. But yeah, a lot. But
Speaker 1: their bodies look different. No, Zeke Zeke looks skinny, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Different strength coach, you know, in different strengths
Speaker 1: coach to two different strength coaches, I think. So yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: and and these guys were, you know, been on the
Speaker 1: field a lot more. Uh, and that we could see
Speaker 1: kind of in the offseason. So yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: it kind of trickles down too, because, um, the participation
Speaker 1: for this team was as good as as I think
Speaker 1: any any other team in the league from what it
Speaker 1: sounds like. So that's that's you know, when you get
Speaker 1: hit in the mouth, I mean you you you got
Speaker 1: to come back. I mean that's that's. This team got
Speaker 1: embarrassed last year. Their record is embarrassing for this franchise,
Speaker 1: for any franchise, because especially off the expectations and everything
Speaker 1: it was an embarrassing so you have to respond. And
Speaker 1: I think you know the quarterbacks there every day with
Speaker 1: a bad ankle, trying to get better, and that that
Speaker 1: pushes Lyo Collins, Tyrant Smith's trying to get better, trying
Speaker 1: to get back. Zeke's been told he's done, it's over
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, Emmett got told that several times
Speaker 1: in his career and kind of kept coming back. So
Speaker 1: that happens. So this whole team got told, has been
Speaker 1: listening to this stuff, and then you know, you want
Speaker 1: them to respond in this way, and that's the way
Speaker 1: to do it. That's all you can do in March
Speaker 1: April and may lease, get your body right, get ready
Speaker 1: to go. So now let's see how it translates on
Speaker 1: the field. All right, We're gonna go and take our
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we have a couple
Speaker 1: news items. We want to hit, some injuries that popped up,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys get their guy that they've been targeting
Speaker 1: or at least thinking of signing. He's in camp now,
Speaker 1: Malie Cooker. We'll talk about that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: second segment of the break. We're Alive from Oxnard, California.
Speaker 1: Nice sunny day here in Oxnard. Cowboys will have practice
Speaker 1: to day at eleven am Pacific time. The pads come on.
Speaker 1: If you're in the area, try to get out. It's
Speaker 1: actually a pretty cool thing. They have a whole set
Speaker 1: of stands for the fans. You kind of be up
Speaker 1: high so you can see out over the field and
Speaker 1: see what's happening on the field. So better than we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know if they're on the near field, if they're
Speaker 1: on the far field, maybe yesterday was a little tough,
Speaker 1: but today they might be back over there. But if
Speaker 1: you get a chance to come out check out practice.
Speaker 1: I know tomorrow they're actually I'm not tomorrow, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: On Saturday, they're having a big fan festival. Really, every
Speaker 1: team around the league is having a fan festival at
Speaker 1: their training camp. So if you get a chance, if
Speaker 1: you're in the Oxnard area, come check that out. It
Speaker 1: will be a really cool, fun event. You'll get a
Speaker 1: chance to maybe even meet Shannon Gross and Nate Newton.
Speaker 1: They're out on the on the plaza as you enter
Speaker 1: the area, and they'll be hanging out with fans before
Speaker 1: the actual practice begins. So come check it out. And
Speaker 1: if you happen to see Nick or Dave along the sideline,
Speaker 1: make sure you say hello. They may do an autograph
Speaker 1: or picture with you. So we'll see how that goes,
Speaker 1: all right, So let's let's jump back in. We do
Speaker 1: have some some new news items that we wanted to
Speaker 1: hit um first, some some injuries. There were three guys
Speaker 1: that were either out of practice or limited yesterday. I
Speaker 1: just want to get some feedback on you guys on
Speaker 1: what you're hearing as far as the extent of their injuries.
Speaker 1: Understanding that a lot of this may just be precautionary
Speaker 1: because you know, it's training camp. So let's start first
Speaker 1: with Zach Martin has an ankle injury. What are you
Speaker 1: guys here? Zack Martin's fine, he might have digged his
Speaker 1: ankle but he's I mean, it's hard to believe, but
Speaker 1: Zack's in year eight and they're gonna they're gonna be
Speaker 1: cautious with him, as they should. Yeah, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on a plan. He was at practice yesterday. He didn't
Speaker 1: do team, but he was there. He spoke to the media.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm fine. You know, we're on a
Speaker 1: deliberate s jewel of what I need to and don't
Speaker 1: need to be doing. He anticipates that he'll play in
Speaker 1: the preseason at some point, so he's fine. If he
Speaker 1: doesn't do another thing until the start of the season.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I know he's not. He actually
Speaker 1: he was talking yesterday about how strange it was having
Speaker 1: your first live action be Week one last year and
Speaker 1: how much they didn't like it. So, yeah, those guys
Speaker 1: will play in the preseason. But he's fine, all right.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis hammy. I'm not sure the severity some you know,
Speaker 1: I tend to lean toward like a longer term deal
Speaker 1: with a hammy, just because out of an abundance of caution.
Speaker 1: But you try to read guys like body language when
Speaker 1: in that type of situation, especially when we don't have
Speaker 1: as much access as we normally do. He did rehab
Speaker 1: for like the first twenty minutes of practice, and then
Speaker 1: he was just over with the defense with the DBS,
Speaker 1: Like seemed like he was in good spirits. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of times if a guy is really hurt, they
Speaker 1: do rehab and then they leave to go do cold
Speaker 1: tub or whatever it is they need to do. Jordan
Speaker 1: was out there the whole practice. Yeah, he was being
Speaker 1: a part of everything, which again I don't know for sure,
Speaker 1: but that just gives me the impression that it's not
Speaker 1: a super serious deal. Yeah, and then Bradley and I
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. What's up with him? I don't even know
Speaker 1: that one. You got me on that one. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that he was heard either to be honest. Okay,
Speaker 1: so thanks, we'll check that out. And well there's ninety
Speaker 1: of them, Derek, there's ninety of them. Well we are
Speaker 1: gonna get toar I can't, I mean, I get around.
Speaker 1: So we'll make sure we get to those and maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be one of them for tomorrow. I'm not
Speaker 1: even trusty report from Like, it's just like scouring the
Speaker 1: internet looking for little notes here and there. One of
Speaker 1: our trusted allies posted that yesterday, and I assume that
Speaker 1: trusted allies, I'm talking about media people, somebody I trust.
Speaker 1: It just makes it sound so nefarious. Yeah, I got you,
Speaker 1: all right, Um, let's talk about Mali Cooker. Cowboys have
Speaker 1: been rumored to be talking, and not just rumored. They
Speaker 1: were pretty blunt about the fact they were talking to him.
Speaker 1: He was going through protocols they signed him. Talk to
Speaker 1: me about when fans can expect maybe to see him
Speaker 1: on the field. Well, technically, he was on the field yesterday.
Speaker 1: He was there, he watched practice, so that means he's
Speaker 1: cleared protocols clearly. And from here, you know, they signed him,
Speaker 1: which means his health must be pretty good. But from
Speaker 1: here a guy, you know, he's coming off an achilles too.
Speaker 1: He got hurt like literally almost at the exact same
Speaker 1: time as Casey, like early October, so I would have
Speaker 1: meatin he wasn't in an offseason program, didn't go through OTA,
Speaker 1: So I would imagine this is going to be a
Speaker 1: slow build. You know, I would be surprised if he's
Speaker 1: out there flying around anytime like this week. I think
Speaker 1: they'll probably be really slow with him and bring him along.
Speaker 1: But you know, I would imagine he'll be in uniform today,
Speaker 1: just maybe not doing a whole lot. He talks to
Speaker 1: the media today after practice or he's expected to, so
Speaker 1: he might have a good timetable there. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: that'll be one of the first or second questions to
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy today, you know, just on what he's gonna
Speaker 1: do and win, you know, and it'll probably give an
Speaker 1: answer similar to what Dave said. It is it's interest,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't underestimate that. Like Casey signed in
Speaker 1: March and from then on out, like you're in a
Speaker 1: program with a strength coach, people overseeing your rehab, you're there,
Speaker 1: you're in the facility a lot, and then you go
Speaker 1: through a whole offseason program, ten practices, six weeks of
Speaker 1: training and following the plan they want you to follow.
Speaker 1: Hook or didn't have any of that, and again coming
Speaker 1: off a really scary injury for a dB in particular.
Speaker 1: So yeah, like I would imagine you want to be
Speaker 1: really careful with that. All right, let's get to our
Speaker 1: our segment, our fund segment, I get around as you
Speaker 1: For those that may not have heard the last episode,
Speaker 1: this segment is a segment where I'm going to throw
Speaker 1: out a name, and these guys are gonna tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about what they know about the player
Speaker 1: and focus in some on what they've seen from the
Speaker 1: player out here in practice, their impressions of what they're
Speaker 1: doing so far, where they might be being used, how
Speaker 1: much they're being used, what their expectations are for them
Speaker 1: based upon what they've seen so far. Wouldn't wouldn't have
Speaker 1: pegged you for a big Beach Boys guy. You don't
Speaker 1: seem like a Beach Boys fan to me. No, I'm not, okay,
Speaker 1: just a coincidence, No, I get around. That's that's a
Speaker 1: Tupac and that's a Beach Boys song. No, wow, this
Speaker 1: is a two America's moment right here. It's very much
Speaker 1: America's moment, very much so. All right, um, let's go
Speaker 1: for Anthony Brown, six year cornerback, twenty sixteen, sixth round
Speaker 1: pick out of Purdue. Go Nick, Well, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the starter. Sorry, fans that don't want that, I think
Speaker 1: that's boring and that's not exciting. They want the new
Speaker 1: guys to come in here. I think it was our
Speaker 1: mailbag question today if if I ever got up, But
Speaker 1: if it didn't. It's my fault. But um, it's up now.
Speaker 1: But Anthony Brown. The question was who's gonna be the
Speaker 1: top three? And it's like it's the it's the it's
Speaker 1: the three that are there. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: Nishan right and and Kelvin Joseph are going to really
Speaker 1: come in here and push anybody for a starting job.
Speaker 1: You know, Trayvon Diggs did it last year. Let's not
Speaker 1: for you know, let's not forget why. I mean, Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis got hurt for a while and he came in
Speaker 1: and really did a nice job. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that's happening here. Anthony Brown has done. He's a solid player.
Speaker 1: That's just a solid player, and he knows he can
Speaker 1: play inside and can play outside. I haven't saying I've
Speaker 1: seen a ton of great plays from him, but he's
Speaker 1: a solid player and he's gonna be there, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the top three left cornerback until
Speaker 1: proven otherwise, and then even then you have to consider
Speaker 1: his ability to move inside. It's a very high probability
Speaker 1: that he's one of the top three one way or
Speaker 1: the other. It is interesting, you know, Jordan is hurt
Speaker 1: right now, We'll see how long that lasts. But that
Speaker 1: could provide opportunity to somebody else to come in and impress.
Speaker 1: But I'd be pretty surprised if Abe's not a week
Speaker 1: one starter. When you start looking at that at that
Speaker 1: depth at cornerback, does that you mentioned, you know, Jordan
Speaker 1: being hurt. Do you think that there's there's room for
Speaker 1: somebody like Mark, like Kennedy to be able to make
Speaker 1: this team when you start thinking about just the number
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks you got right now, you like your your rookies,
Speaker 1: that's two spots. If you like him enough to be
Speaker 1: able to keep, you would think those two are gonna
Speaker 1: make the team. So you know, what what does that
Speaker 1: look like for those other guys? So let's let's just
Speaker 1: do quick roster math, like five, five is probably a
Speaker 1: safe projection. Maybe six, But so Abe, Jordan, and Diggs
Speaker 1: are making the team. Yeah, and then right and Joseph
Speaker 1: are also making the team. So seven corners, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you can you can keep more. You can absolutely
Speaker 1: keep more. I think you have to when you when
Speaker 1: you factor in that, like you know, Fossil's gonna get
Speaker 1: his his guys in there too, and so it's more
Speaker 1: than just the three specialists. So when you think Okay,
Speaker 1: good one, I mean I think good ones in as
Speaker 1: a special teams guy, and I think Kennedy has a
Speaker 1: chance to kind of be that that core guy Kennedy.
Speaker 1: Kennedy really messed up my whole worldview yesterday because I like,
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking of him as somebody who's gonna really
Speaker 1: compete for actual cornerback playing time. And I apologize, I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know that much about you, but he he
Speaker 1: was the first one called when Jordan went out, and
Speaker 1: he played well. So that's something that we have to watch.
Speaker 1: Is it me? Or when I look at when I
Speaker 1: see like even first team or first second team ish
Speaker 1: like early on in the drill, you know where they're
Speaker 1: still playing a lot of starters. I see Deontay Burton
Speaker 1: out there more than I think he's going to be
Speaker 1: out there. But he is. Yeah, he's big guy, he's
Speaker 1: he's I don't know, like he was one of those
Speaker 1: guys that kind of he's been here for a year
Speaker 1: and a half, I think almost two years. But when
Speaker 1: you think of the of the mold of what they
Speaker 1: want for corners, they're like okay him j n curse
Speaker 1: is safety okay? Him? Yea? They like big you really?
Speaker 1: You really, Kennedy? Kenny's a six one two pound guys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you stressed me out when you said seven
Speaker 1: corners because that mean I mean, I know you go
Speaker 1: on eleven or are you only keeping three? Safety? And
Speaker 1: the sad part is is none of those corners unless
Speaker 1: I'm missing somebody is a safety hybrid? Not really? Oh
Speaker 1: he could be. Haven't really used Jordanaire. Everybody's been calling
Speaker 1: forward forever, but they haven't really used him. There I've
Speaker 1: seen or no evidence to see what they like it? Safety? Right? Yeah? Seriously,
Speaker 1: well they're safety is a small quarterbacks. I think it's
Speaker 1: depending on who you're talking. I mean, well, but mumu too,
Speaker 1: that dude's huge. Let's just let's throw it out there
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's been talked about every place but
Speaker 1: this show, So let's just get it out there. I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: seven seven corners and a lot of depth. But is
Speaker 1: it quality depth? And do they need to make a trade?
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to mention the player or
Speaker 1: anything like that. Okay, but I don't know. Maybe somebody
Speaker 1: that wears teal right, right, Okay, but but he's it's
Speaker 1: been thrown out there. He needs a trade, and he
Speaker 1: wants a trade. He wants a trade. And is that
Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys are linked to it like they're linked
Speaker 1: to everybody that's out there. Wait, I mean, they do
Speaker 1: get linked to everybody. But the report last night was
Speaker 1: that Dallas talked to Miami about it before that or
Speaker 1: during the draft season. So I think there's a little
Speaker 1: more legs to it than normal. Okay, So it's a
Speaker 1: first round pick, that's what it's going to be. Next
Speaker 1: year's one. It would have to be. I would just
Speaker 1: have to be at least that. Yeah, and then there's
Speaker 1: also maybe that, and then you know, there may be
Speaker 1: players on your roster you can you can part with.
Speaker 1: Of course I don't. I'm not sure exactly. I mean
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of guys there would come down
Speaker 1: to contract and all that. But I mean, is it
Speaker 1: something that do you think that they should do? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm throwing well, I'll say this, I will tell you this.
Speaker 1: You talked about earlier, how Anthony Brown is a solid guy,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be your starter day one. You make a
Speaker 1: move like that, Anthony Browney immediately becomes expendable because now
Speaker 1: you can go with those Now you can go with
Speaker 1: those younger guys as your third, fourth, fifth guys. You
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need that solid veteran guy because you're getting
Speaker 1: a more than solid veteran guy. If you make a trade,
Speaker 1: you your top three cornerbacks right now are all solid.
Speaker 1: I think Anthony brown is solid. Don't think he's gonna
Speaker 1: get that much better. That's what he is. Solid. But
Speaker 1: one of them has potential beyond one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's solid now, but dig says a chance to go
Speaker 1: higher than that. Jordan Lewis us. You know, he's solid, solid,
Speaker 1: and I don't know it's going to get that much better.
Speaker 1: It is what it is for him as well. So
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of those guys are close to
Speaker 1: the ceiling. You think you hope digs Is is in
Speaker 1: a you know, high rise. You know he's he's got
Speaker 1: you know, room to grow here. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you if you, if you make this, make this move.
Speaker 1: But if you if you made a move like that, okay,
Speaker 1: let's just say that they did that. I mean, this
Speaker 1: isn't for I don't think this could be an Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper thing where it's like, well, we hope we resigned
Speaker 1: him in a year and a half. I mean it's
Speaker 1: got to be. I mean, in hand man, the man
Speaker 1: is making fifteen million a year right now and is
Speaker 1: unhappy with it, so like, I think he wants that
Speaker 1: deal is quickly as possible, like fifteen and a half
Speaker 1: mill I think m basically, I mean, the way he
Speaker 1: worded his statement is he's basically mad that they gave
Speaker 1: Byron more than they gave him. That's I mean, how
Speaker 1: how he was who This thing is so ironic that
Speaker 1: you kind of just flip. He set the market. He
Speaker 1: set the market when he signed that deal, and now
Speaker 1: he's down at six and Byron No Howard Taban Howard
Speaker 1: set the market two and a half years ago, and
Speaker 1: now he's at six and Byron's at five. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm not I'm not sure how firm your
Speaker 1: ground for being pissed off here is other than the
Speaker 1: fact that the guy twenty five yards away from you
Speaker 1: is making more than you well and and you and
Speaker 1: and he has led the league and picked the last
Speaker 1: you know, combined for the last two years. I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it, and and Byron Jones certainly has not. No, no,
Speaker 1: so that's probably part of us. Yeah, of course, that's
Speaker 1: part of it. As a cornerback, that's what you that's
Speaker 1: that's what you're supposed to do. That's what you get
Speaker 1: judged on, right or wrong. It was the reason why
Speaker 1: the Cowboys weren't willing to give him that kind of deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think the problem here is and there's there's
Speaker 1: a real level of irony here because what did Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones say when we got to camp. He was like,
Speaker 1: I'll do anything humanly possible to get another Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He did well, a super tantalizing thing is sitting out there,
Speaker 1: but it could really screw up the long term situation
Speaker 1: for your your cap and your roster building. That's the
Speaker 1: problem because the Cowboys, for a team with not much
Speaker 1: cap space, the Cowboys are in a really healthy spot
Speaker 1: in the sense of like right now, you know Dax
Speaker 1: deal you can bring down and the CAP's gonna go
Speaker 1: up you. Amari's guarantees are done after this season. Zeke's
Speaker 1: guarantees are done in two seasonal. Jalen well, yeah, and Jay,
Speaker 1: I mean so Jalen can be cut next year? No, problem.
Speaker 1: Amari can be cut, moved whatever, next year, no problem.
Speaker 1: Zeke is about two years away. So like all these
Speaker 1: super big scary deals, you can get away. Marcus, I
Speaker 1: don't know his situation. He's a few years away from
Speaker 1: being immovable. Yeah. I typically like I don't know if
Speaker 1: I if. I always kind of like shrug it off,
Speaker 1: like that's not a good idea, mainly because I know
Speaker 1: that they don't. And then so it's like, why we
Speaker 1: wasting our time on it. But this one intrigues me
Speaker 1: more because I don't like parting with next year's one.
Speaker 1: No one does. No one wants to do that. But
Speaker 1: they went into this year going, we really want to
Speaker 1: get a cornerback, even if he's not the highest rated
Speaker 1: player on our board. Because he wasn't. They weren't. Michael was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we want these two because we just feel like we
Speaker 1: have to have it. Well, they didn't get it. They
Speaker 1: didn't get it, and then they addressed it in the
Speaker 1: second round with risky pick sort of Joseph Nashan right,
Speaker 1: they everyone said was a reach. You know, well, we'll
Speaker 1: see about all of them. They look okay out here,
Speaker 1: but they're not you know, they're not the difference because
Speaker 1: you're gonna go into next year's draft and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I think we know next year's draft,
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna be focused on that too. So that's
Speaker 1: one reason why I would consider a move like that,
Speaker 1: because if you give up next year's one at your corner, Yeah,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus is not remotely movable anytime in the next two years, which,
Speaker 1: by the way I'm doing that's fine. That's one of
Speaker 1: the ones I'm good with. Just his name shouldn't be
Speaker 1: in this conversation when we're talking about that. But and
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with Nick like it's an intriguing idea.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of like I said, they're in
Speaker 1: a healthy spot, you know, like if a Mari has
Speaker 1: a terrible season, that's no big deal. If Jalen doesn't
Speaker 1: get better, that's no big deal. In order to acquire
Speaker 1: and pay Howard, you gotta change that, and you gotta like,
Speaker 1: now you're putting yourself in a situation where you're converting
Speaker 1: salaries to bonuses and pushing money back and well, now
Speaker 1: we're tied to Amri for two more years now instead
Speaker 1: of one, we're tied to Jalen, we're tied to Zeke
Speaker 1: for even longer than we already are the one that
Speaker 1: you're going to adjust that. We're just we're just spitball
Speaker 1: in here. The point is, are you willing to do
Speaker 1: those types of things that make you that put you
Speaker 1: in a little bit more precarious of a situation? And
Speaker 1: for the record, people yelling at me like, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's necessarily a bad idea, it's just are you
Speaker 1: willing to do that? There's four I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: I think there's four unrestricted free agents for next year
Speaker 1: that you know. I think the Cowboys would like to resign,
Speaker 1: Gallup being one of them, Van de Rash, Gregor Connor
Speaker 1: Williams maybe and in no particular order of those four.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, so that's that's part of it too.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to you know. And and I know
Speaker 1: we're getting way ahead of ourselves maybe but not we were.
Speaker 1: We were doing camp preach good. But you know what,
Speaker 1: it's not getting ahead of yourself because when you when
Speaker 1: when that you know, when when they're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy like you know, Howard or trading for anybody, you
Speaker 1: have to think like that. You have to think two
Speaker 1: or three shots ahead, because that's that's what it's about. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well this guy down the road house Joseph looking, how
Speaker 1: this guy looking? Should we go and do that? I mean,
Speaker 1: they made a trade for Amar because Deante Thompson was
Speaker 1: running routes in games, and they're like, this can't happen,
Speaker 1: this guy, we can't do this. Actually exactly what happens though.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, we we got to get better now.
Speaker 1: But they could project and they say, well, you know
Speaker 1: where's Will. He's out here somewhere. Let's go find him.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this too. He might be coming
Speaker 1: on the show. We're gonna talk to him about it.
Speaker 1: Was it? Maybe it maybe camping out. I think it's
Speaker 1: camping out, and maybe not today, but I mean, he's
Speaker 1: scheduled to come on that show. It's hard for me
Speaker 1: to imagine the Cowboys being willing to part with that asset,
Speaker 1: meaning the draft pick, and shuffle around all of their
Speaker 1: cap situation to accommodate this. It's just me. It seems
Speaker 1: hard to imagine them doing all of that. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't hate it at all. I wouldn't hate it. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't hate it, but you do kind of have a
Speaker 1: tough situation at defensive end because if you're going into
Speaker 1: next year's draft, we think it's going to be defensive
Speaker 1: end could be if something that you would want to
Speaker 1: look at too. You'd hate to not have a number
Speaker 1: one pick or whatever for defensive end because you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with Randy, if you're going to
Speaker 1: resign him or not. And if you get a big
Speaker 1: time corner like this, you may not have money to
Speaker 1: sign up player that way, So you know, that could
Speaker 1: be that could be a problem if you don't have
Speaker 1: a pass rusher that you like. I will say this.
Speaker 1: In the opening press conference, Jerry was asked how to
Speaker 1: get back to the glory days of the nineties. Two
Speaker 1: names he threw out. He say, give me a als Alien,
Speaker 1: give me a Dion Sanders. I'm not saying that Xavian
Speaker 1: Howard is Dion Sanders. He might be as close as
Speaker 1: you have in the NFL. I would currently at least
Speaker 1: yeah that. So all I'm saying is keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that, see how that goes. And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's something that we should just necessarily dismissed it. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't do if Jerry really is thinking true, I need
Speaker 1: those kinds of players in order to get back to
Speaker 1: those days of nineties. He is Dion Sanders, and from
Speaker 1: from a standpoint of the probably the best ball hawk
Speaker 1: in the game right now. Is he as good as Dion? No?
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's like somebody has to be the
Speaker 1: Michael Jordans, you know, of the current of the current
Speaker 1: of the current day, and so um and I think
Speaker 1: I think that he is. That Avian Howard has more
Speaker 1: interceptions for his career than the entire cornerback group on
Speaker 1: this team combined. Okay, just saying, wow, okay, he got
Speaker 1: ten last year, right, yeah, and that might be more.
Speaker 1: That might ten, might be more. Yet no, I think
Speaker 1: I think we can match that a Well, I'm just
Speaker 1: doing cornerbacks because Hooker and Hooker and Casey actually have
Speaker 1: a Vegas and number. Um Ab has six, Jordan has four,
Speaker 1: and Diggs has three. So yet, right, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: our final break, we come back. We still got some
Speaker 1: more to get around too. We got some players that
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Speaker 1: I get around. We talked about Anthony Brown. Next name
Speaker 1: I have for you, guys, it's Gary Gilbert. He is
Speaker 1: a fourth year quarterback out of SMU formerly the University
Speaker 1: of Texas. At one point, Dave go, this isn't a competition.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless they bring somebody else in. Garrett Gilbert's
Speaker 1: the number two quarterback. In my opinion, am I crazy?
Speaker 1: It's it's more about you saying dead. It's well, not
Speaker 1: only does Denucci not look amazing out here, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: but like they just Garrett Gilbert's doing everything like he's
Speaker 1: with the twos. Like if Dak for some reason wasn't practicing,
Speaker 1: he would go in with the ones like I don't
Speaker 1: they wouldn't split it up with Denucci doing some of
Speaker 1: it or in Cooper Rush is hurt right now. But
Speaker 1: even if he wasn't, it's just it's Garrett Gilbert and
Speaker 1: I think there's a very clear hierarchy. Um. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him do anything amazing, but he looks solid. You know,
Speaker 1: he's led the offense down the field in the red
Speaker 1: zone and the two minute periods. He's made some nice throws.
Speaker 1: He's moved him into position for field goals that they
Speaker 1: don't actually kick. Um, he looks. He looks good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's not making circus throws, but don't need
Speaker 1: him to. He's gonna be if he has to play
Speaker 1: in a game, this is what you're gonna get out
Speaker 1: of it. Where he's gonna be prepared. I think we
Speaker 1: saw that in the chance that he got in in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: He was prepared for the moment. He hadn't been here
Speaker 1: that long. He's here now, you know, a whole year
Speaker 1: longer than that. Uh. He's a big guy, so he
Speaker 1: could see things over the line. But he also moves well.
Speaker 1: I mean he runs. But in that game against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: he averaged like ten yards a run. I mean, and
Speaker 1: and we saw it a couple of times out here
Speaker 1: things break down, He's kind of a I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say he's Blake Jarwin, but he's a long
Speaker 1: strider where like those guys can pick up ten yards
Speaker 1: twelve yards, just you know, when things break down. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's a guy that it's gonna
Speaker 1: take a player that gets cut that's available, like in
Speaker 1: the in the off season here or in the in preseason,
Speaker 1: that has some kind of ties or history to this
Speaker 1: team or coaching staff that that will maybe jump him.
Speaker 1: But I think right now it's it's definitely his job
Speaker 1: to lose. Blake Bortles is available. Again, just saying I'm
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there, yeah, which and I can't.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me that yesterday. They were like, do you
Speaker 1: do you think Blake Bortles is definitively better than Garrett Gilbert?
Speaker 1: And I was like, absolutely not. He's just definitively more experienced,
Speaker 1: which more high profile. Yeah, yeah, but you know, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean better. So so then it becomes an
Speaker 1: issue of whatever would cost to pay him you can
Speaker 1: probably get I'm guessing you could get Garrett Gilbert for cheaper,
Speaker 1: and why go for someone more expensive if you don't
Speaker 1: have to. I'm calling my shot right now. I think
Speaker 1: it'll be Dak and double G. And that's that's your
Speaker 1: quarterback depuble. I've been calling him double G. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's actually let's go further than that.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you gonna try to keep three? I'm not.
Speaker 1: That's what I just said. I mean, which this is me.
Speaker 1: I mean, coaches do coaches things. So maybe if they're
Speaker 1: just enamored with the Nuci that he's gonna play a
Speaker 1: lot in the preseason, you know this and that, and
Speaker 1: he missed that opportunity before, and I think people kind
Speaker 1: of forget that. Um, you know, where would Romo be
Speaker 1: if he had never played preseason games because some of
Speaker 1: his moments were all always in the preseason. Uh saved
Speaker 1: his career, saved his career two or three times. So
Speaker 1: Denucci didn't have that first time he got out there
Speaker 1: was just Sunday night football against the Eagles on the road.
Speaker 1: That's just it. It's so ridiculous when you say it
Speaker 1: out loud. So he first NFL snaps ever. Think about
Speaker 1: first time. I mean, honestly, when Romo played. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm comparing them, but they're they're similar. When
Speaker 1: Romo went, his first game was the Cardinals on two
Speaker 1: thousand and three preseason and as Parcel said, you're a
Speaker 1: ball in high Grass lost. Yeah, me under the trouble
Speaker 1: passing that that hit the raff. I mean like he
Speaker 1: wasn't ready to play, and so quarterbacks need time to
Speaker 1: look at Garrett Gilbert. I mean, he's been bounced around.
Speaker 1: There's the reason why those guys go undrafted is because
Speaker 1: they're gonna need of that development time if they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to make it any I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we're doing this documentary and we're doing different stories on
Speaker 1: one of the stories on Dak Prescott and the fact
Speaker 1: that in Dave and Rob both help with that. I'm
Speaker 1: doing some interviews and one of the things that I
Speaker 1: think it was Rob that said is that the fact
Speaker 1: that nobody in Dak's classes even with their team anymore.
Speaker 1: Some of them are out of the league. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of them are out of them. Those to show
Speaker 1: how hard it is to draft this exactly right top
Speaker 1: or bottom. It's tough. I hear everything you're saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, we just they got ten million dbs that
Speaker 1: they got to figure out. Yeah, they got ten million
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. They got an offensive line with significant injury risk.
Speaker 1: You need roster spots. If I'm just I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: that the need is going to be there for a
Speaker 1: third one, and you'd likely get Denucci out. We're saying
Speaker 1: all of this before preseason games, any games, and I'm
Speaker 1: not just mentioning him. I'm talking about the receivers, the corners,
Speaker 1: the player that the defensive end we're not even taught
Speaker 1: talking about. You don't even have a Rondelle Carter on
Speaker 1: your depth chart or your fifty three until he goes
Speaker 1: out and gets three sacks in a game. I'm never
Speaker 1: Then you're like, I'm never gonna whine about the preseason again,
Speaker 1: because it is like a week from whenever, I don't
Speaker 1: know a week. The game is in eight days tomorrow,
Speaker 1: the day after the game. It's like so many guys
Speaker 1: were either gonna be saying likely you won't, you won't
Speaker 1: clear waivers, or get this bum off the team. He's
Speaker 1: so but every year it works out. The guys they
Speaker 1: kind of want they'll get the guys they don't. It's
Speaker 1: fun though, it's fun to meet. There is a less
Speaker 1: crappy in the fourth quarter of a game. There's a
Speaker 1: running back. No one's talking about running backs, but someone's
Speaker 1: gonna be leading this team and rushing. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not Zeke and it's probably not even Poli. In the preseason,
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, well, no, no, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: saying I mean, like a Jaquan Hardy or somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: go for like one twenty seven in the game. Sure,
Speaker 1: nobody knew who Philip Tanner was until his helmet popped
Speaker 1: off and he ran for a touchdown, which you know,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I gotta have him. Know Lance Dunbar,
Speaker 1: you know who also didn't get to show out in
Speaker 1: the preseason last year. My boy Shaiwo right freight train,
Speaker 1: he'll run a little bit six three, two forty coming
Speaker 1: at you in the fourth quarter. Let's go. What about Argyll? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nick Ralston, Yeah, local legend. There will definitely be some
Speaker 1: guys that will turn heads. What I've learned their history
Speaker 1: is it doesn't mean they're gonna make the team. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anybody else is gonna pick them up. Like
Speaker 1: it's just there will be throughout the league. There will
Speaker 1: be guys like that that will be making plays during
Speaker 1: the preseason, and every team has those guys, and so
Speaker 1: it's not like you can't get those guys your practice
Speaker 1: squad in most instances. True. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: the next name. We'll try to get one more before
Speaker 1: we end the show. Tie and Secki, eighth year offensive
Speaker 1: tackle who was an unrestricted free agent that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: picked up in twenty twenty one from Buffalo. Nick go Well.
Speaker 1: I mentioned him yesterday when I was talking with Dave
Speaker 1: about there are five players on this roster that are
Speaker 1: thirty that are over thirty. Four of them are specialist.
Speaker 1: The only the only position that's over thirty on this
Speaker 1: team is tie and Secky and he didn't even start
Speaker 1: thirty five. I believe we also it's a weird like
Speaker 1: this is a really young team and also somehow a
Speaker 1: really experienced team. Yeah, because it's full of guys like
Speaker 1: Dak and Zeke and Amari Cooper who have been regular
Speaker 1: starters in the league since they were twenty had a
Speaker 1: lot of a young, experienced vets. That's a good combination
Speaker 1: so um. So that's why how he stood out for
Speaker 1: me just looking at the roster there um And he's
Speaker 1: in a good spot as far as this team getting
Speaker 1: a chance to show what he can do early because
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna limit tier and they're gonna limit
Speaker 1: um lyle so m. I mean he hasn't looked bad.
Speaker 1: I mean again, it hasn't looked great and it looked bad.
Speaker 1: Those alignment are very tough to evaluate when isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: you're one percent, you're brad, You're You're trying to make
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, and I'm trying to just stay healthy here.
Speaker 1: So we'll get the pads on. Let's see what kind
Speaker 1: of claw he can do and you know, put people down.
Speaker 1: Yeah I have. I haven't had an impression good or bad, um,
Speaker 1: but I do. I consider him the favorite to be
Speaker 1: the swing tackle and nothing that I've seen so far
Speaker 1: has changed that appanel You don't think Terrence still is
Speaker 1: with all the experience that he was given last year
Speaker 1: that he was getting last year, Do you think he's
Speaker 1: a guy that Yes, if all things are equal, things
Speaker 1: I would think I would think he's the guy. But
Speaker 1: have you seen anything that that makes you say maybe
Speaker 1: still is your guy is going to be your swing tackle?
Speaker 1: Not yet, and it Steel hasn't been awful, but I
Speaker 1: like he's he hasn't been amazing. I mean, Randy Gregory's
Speaker 1: been beating up on people out there and that's not
Speaker 1: that's not just steal um. Yeah, he had his problems
Speaker 1: in the off season with remember that. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know it tackles interesting because it'll it'll be a domino effect.
Speaker 1: How does Brandon Knight play? If Brandon Knight is playing
Speaker 1: well at guard knowing that he can move out to tackle,
Speaker 1: because none of those tackles are guys that move it,
Speaker 1: you know, in a guard, so you know you would
Speaker 1: think you don't maybe just want one one backup tackle
Speaker 1: then one guard tackle. Yeah, but I don't think doesn't
Speaker 1: Zekey haven't experienced it guard, not that I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think he does. Which we
Speaker 1: also know that then Zack Martin also can can slide
Speaker 1: out to tackle, as he did last year, So you
Speaker 1: do you got some guards that can kind of make
Speaker 1: that move if you need it to. Um, So really
Speaker 1: isn't necessary. I wouldn't think three of those tacles on
Speaker 1: your final roster. Yeah, I mean, and that's you know again,
Speaker 1: that's why they're cross trading Connor at Center Farniac as well.
Speaker 1: It's doing a little bit of both. So I think
Speaker 1: the and that's that might be one way you save
Speaker 1: a roster spot right there, because you know, we said
Speaker 1: in the spring, it's like, give me ten or eleven
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and so this injury bug doesn't bite us again.
Speaker 1: But if three of your old linemen can play two
Speaker 1: to three positions, then maybe you only need nine. It's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine they would go with eight, but maybe nine.
Speaker 1: All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We will
Speaker 1: be back. I think this is sad on Friday. Friday
Speaker 1: will be our next show. Um, and actually we got
Speaker 1: Brian brought us will be joining us on Friday. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have some a little fun with him, get some
Speaker 1: impressions from him before he leaves training camp of some
Speaker 1: of the things he's seen out here. So check us
Speaker 1: out Friday till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, I
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